If you don't want to look like a bunch of duffuses,do all the cranking shit off camera, warm the car up, then start the camera and start the car and show everyone how badass it is. Jeeeeze rookies.
isn't methanol a higher octane fuel? if so it should burn easier therefore starting easier. it's like using starter fluid or carburetor cleaner to start it and btw once it turns over.... don't let it die hit that little thing next to your foot i think it's called the gas pedal not trying to sound like an ass or anything but come on you can build an engine but you can't get it started?
Octane is actually a measurement of a fuels resistance to burn..... it has a higher heat value...there fore produces more BTU's BUT the flash point of the fuel is MUCH higher..... starting a cold engine on methanol can be difficult not to to mention the cam in that motor prolly has a huge overlap.. so at low rpm's doesn't have the greatest compression....trust me its hard to start a cold motor on methanol.
depending on the compression and the initial timing.. definately.. pro stock guys are always squirting pure nitro methane in their blower hoods to get their cold engines started.. blower cars often have a hard time starting... lower compression huge cylinder volumes and big valve overlap contribute to this.. but my guess is this guy had retarted his timing just a little bit too much... but its a safe way to beat preignition on a new motor.
Im building an 89 mustang with an F2. Ive been thinking of going with the gear drive set up for the supercharger. Have you had a problem with throwing or breaking the cog belt on your set up? Im looking for direction on my build. So it helps when I get peoples opinion when they have a built and run car.
@Bamchucknorris LOL!!! Ya I can see it's no diesel. Regular gas engine cars have block heaters from the factory for the colder states. I wasn't trying to disrespect you. Nice engine. Good luck with your car.
there is a huge difference in prochargers and all centrifugal chargers vs a turbo!!! especially when it comes to lag and tq numbers! and if you are going to put a centrifugal charger...procharger is the way to go!! self containment baby!!! no need to tap the oil pan. can be installed within 5-6 hours or less! (minus tunning). believe me, i have a turbo setup on my mustang, it was a pain in the ass to do, unless you spend a shit ton of money and buy a kit. which i did not!
The timing was correct on the engine and this was the FIRST time we tried to start up the engine with Methanol. The problem was that we didnt get any Methanol in to the cylinders, but we have learn, so today we are starting the engine really easy, by having full throttle in a couple of seconds then we cranking the engine and before pressing the ignition button. So, please dont give us any more STUPID comments, we know what we did wrong, please look at the other videos then we run 4.63s@660ft.
Just so you know that respirator will not help you in oxygen deficient environments. Aka what the car is creating in a closed room by running. The thing filters air it does not add oxygen to it. What I am saying is take the mask off your wasting your time.
Yes, we have that in mind to use a couple of NOS Fogger nozzles to purge the engine.
But then we found out that if you have full throttle in a couple of seconds then you crank the engine before push the starter switch, there was no need for any NOS kits anymore because it starts really easily.
Correctbut we can all see that the Summit starter is working GREAT and we still using the same starter without any problems. So we/you cannot complain on the Summit qualify starters.. hehe
@fordlightning If i had the dough to build a motor like that, Im pretty sure i wouldnt worry much about a $300 +- starter when tryin to fire the bitch up LOL O_o :-D
If you don't want to look like a bunch of duffuses,do all the cranking shit off camera, warm the car up, then start the camera and start the car and show everyone how badass it is. Jeeeeze rookies.
n5ifi 1 week ago
Engine starts and STAYS running at 2:25
eurokid83 3 months ago
isn't methanol a higher octane fuel? if so it should burn easier therefore starting easier. it's like using starter fluid or carburetor cleaner to start it and btw once it turns over.... don't let it die hit that little thing next to your foot i think it's called the gas pedal not trying to sound like an ass or anything but come on you can build an engine but you can't get it started?
eXp0N3nT1aL 6 months ago
Octane is actually a measurement of a fuels resistance to burn..... it has a higher heat value...there fore produces more BTU's BUT the flash point of the fuel is MUCH higher..... starting a cold engine on methanol can be difficult not to to mention the cam in that motor prolly has a huge overlap.. so at low rpm's doesn't have the greatest compression....trust me its hard to start a cold motor on methanol.
TheLucidsun 4 months ago
@TheLucidsun didn't know that about the octane but that hard to start?
eXp0N3nT1aL 4 months ago
@eXp0N3nT1aL
depending on the compression and the initial timing.. definately.. pro stock guys are always squirting pure nitro methane in their blower hoods to get their cold engines started.. blower cars often have a hard time starting... lower compression huge cylinder volumes and big valve overlap contribute to this.. but my guess is this guy had retarted his timing just a little bit too much... but its a safe way to beat preignition on a new motor.
TheLucidsun 4 months ago
needs a cold start methanol injector lol just an idea .
msmyview 6 months ago
I love the mask...Will you be flying in high altitudes? I gotta stack 351. gettin headman headers [:
marlinredneck 8 months ago
time to change ur starter
IYARF 8 months ago
dont you love it how people get on here and try to tell you how to build your ride...you've got this far with out them right
lemmelime 1 year ago
Im building an 89 mustang with an F2. Ive been thinking of going with the gear drive set up for the supercharger. Have you had a problem with throwing or breaking the cog belt on your set up? Im looking for direction on my build. So it helps when I get peoples opinion when they have a built and run car.
72Horton 1 year ago
Cant you use a block heater to pre warm the engine to help it start easier
72Horton 1 year ago
@72Horton That aint no diesel, son.
Bamchucknorris 10 months ago
@Bamchucknorris LOL!!! Ya I can see it's no diesel. Regular gas engine cars have block heaters from the factory for the colder states. I wasn't trying to disrespect you. Nice engine. Good luck with your car.
72Horton 10 months ago
is this the first time this engine has been started after a build?
troy5251 1 year ago
@troy5251
Yes, first time.
JanEkstrom 1 year ago
wow nicee
adokenk3nnbasil 1 year ago
shouldnt be that hard to get an engine to stay cranked. Probably somethin minor and an easy fix. Nice set up though
chevy700r 1 year ago
Boy she was being quite stubborn for ya guy's eh.
darkmp40 1 year ago
man that thing is a turd to start. nice car tho. :)
gamerguy455 1 year ago
gear reduction
FORDGTFANATIC 1 year ago
can't you use a little gas to start it?,they do it on fuel motors
inagod 1 year ago
no intercooler?
ratgreen 1 year ago
wow thats a really impressive starter with sum real dumasses using it
557BBFprocharged 1 year ago
they know more about cars than almost all of you
dmied1 2 years ago
ford enough said
Tadist 2 years ago
Yep, Ford is awesome.
=D
B0SSNINE 2 years ago
Why would you keep cranking it like that!!???!?!?
86mustang408w 2 years ago 2
waist of my time
tinahiheels 2 years ago
Spray some gas, paint thinnger, or anything flammable at a lower rate and fire it up. I would be imbarrased to post this video.
kkustomz 2 years ago
BLOW THROUGH's DO NOT work...
laford1986 2 years ago
do you have problems with the main webbing in the block?
iceman5X75 2 years ago
wow its running now, shut it off and replace the battery and starter!
Daves03 2 years ago 4
WOOOW that hurts
Dittyvr6 2 years ago
prime it? I seen em at the races with a bottle of fuel primer mashin on it before.
woodyate 2 years ago
I don't think the intake could have been placed in a worse spot. Sick car though...
RAF92Warhawk 2 years ago
YIKES!
32spitzer 2 years ago
there is a huge difference in prochargers and all centrifugal chargers vs a turbo!!! especially when it comes to lag and tq numbers! and if you are going to put a centrifugal charger...procharger is the way to go!! self containment baby!!! no need to tap the oil pan. can be installed within 5-6 hours or less! (minus tunning). believe me, i have a turbo setup on my mustang, it was a pain in the ass to do, unless you spend a shit ton of money and buy a kit. which i did not!
02mutang02 2 years ago
dont forget about the battery.... poor thing!
02mutang02 2 years ago
poor starter
marshallvalvestate 2 years ago
Try priming the motor with gas if it is cold. Alcohol doesnt like to burn when its cold.
You will save the starter and not wash down the cylinders.
blowntransam 2 years ago
i feel for the starter.......
yfz162 2 years ago
whats a procharger ?
motorwolrdpl 3 years ago
its a supercharger .... supercharger forces air into the engine to make more power
andytacoma2000 2 years ago
yet they SHOW the turbocharger
eXCore420 2 years ago
omfg you are stupid
andyman820 2 years ago
It is actually a "centrifugal supercharger".
That's what Prochargers are.
And there are root style superchargers such as Kenne Bells.
HENNESSEYboss429 2 years ago
eXCore420... lol you sir are tardeded
NORML85 2 years ago
procharger is just a brand name.
wat you are looking at is a centrofugal(doubt my spelling is right) supercharger
and basicaly wat that is is like a turbo but instead of being run off of the escapeing exauhst its rum off a belt.
Rayex951x 2 years ago
thx
motorwolrdpl 2 years ago
get a holden
bongidg07 3 years ago
The timing was correct on the engine and this was the FIRST time we tried to start up the engine with Methanol. The problem was that we didnt get any Methanol in to the cylinders, but we have learn, so today we are starting the engine really easy, by having full throttle in a couple of seconds then we cranking the engine and before pressing the ignition button. So, please dont give us any more STUPID comments, we know what we did wrong, please look at the other videos then we run 4.63s@660ft.
JanEkstrom 3 years ago
Just so you know that respirator will not help you in oxygen deficient environments. Aka what the car is creating in a closed room by running. The thing filters air it does not add oxygen to it. What I am saying is take the mask off your wasting your time.
IanJamesMullins 3 years ago
Use a nitrous plate to purge some gas into that thing to get it started faster.
Trust me..it really works.
flyflaboy23 3 years ago 9
Yes, we have that in mind to use a couple of NOS Fogger nozzles to purge the engine.
But then we found out that if you have full throttle in a couple of seconds then you crank the engine before push the starter switch, there was no need for any NOS kits anymore because it starts really easily.
JanEkstrom 3 years ago
in the future make sure that engine is set to run,excessive cranking on a new or any engine is a no no.you can take the life out of a lot of parts.
inagod 3 years ago
your ganna burn up the starter trying for that long...
fordlightning 3 years ago 12
Correctbut we can all see that the Summit starter is working GREAT and we still using the same starter without any problems. So we/you cannot complain on the Summit qualify starters.. hehe
JanEkstrom 3 years ago 5
@fordlightning If i had the dough to build a motor like that, Im pretty sure i wouldnt worry much about a $300 +- starter when tryin to fire the bitch up LOL O_o :-D
kermet12345 1 year ago
@kermet12345 this is true. lol i honestly don't even remember commenting on this...lol
fordlightning 1 year ago
Please tell me... what make of battery you are using? I gotta get me one!
bunsomatic 3 years ago 2
We are using a 16V battery, Turbo Start.
JanEkstrom 3 years ago
This engine sounds to be out of time, but some race engines are cycled to build oil pressure. Ever see a nascar start? Keep on machining.
KXRida 3 years ago 5
Thanks so much...I'm sure these guys would have no idea what to do without your "expert" advice.
XD XD XD
yahwehsway 3 years ago 2
god learn how to time an engine.
ChevroletRic 3 years ago
Don't forget to look at the video's then we running with the car at MECA Raceway in Sweden.
JanEkstrom 3 years ago
Super Sweet Car!!
PureAmericanMuscle69 3 years ago
SHIT!!!!
thats kool
MullenUrock 4 years ago
poor poor starter, get a timing light! :) jk cool car brotha!
mxmang 4 years ago
agree 100%
chevypower421 3 years ago
Methanol is hard to cold start on mate
adminontrollgubben 3 years ago