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  • also, ps1 is more realistic cuz liquid and snake have a nice civilized conversation before fighting rex. but here in twin snakes liquid makes flips on rails and snake jumps 100 feet in the air, thats just ridiculous.

  • They didn't change liquids voice actor but they did change the way he talks. In ps1 liquid shouts "love? its HATE" and here he says it gently...(the conversation before you fight rex)

  • all of this makes perfect sense. just look into it a little more

  • He doesn't use the correct terminology, but other than that I don't see a problem with his discussion of the cloning project.

  • you enjoy all the killing thats why

    no

    don't denied it

  • Liquid Snake fails biology forever.

  • Anyone notice liquid's british. BROTHER IM BRITISH!!!!!!!!!!!AAAAAAAAAAAA­AGH LIQUID!!!

  • PENTAGOOOOON

  • Way way back in the 1990s,

    Secret government  employees

    Picked up random guys and ladies

    And made amusing genetic copies,

    Now the clones are Space SEALs now

    They're gonna make it if they try,

    Loving, learning, sharing, judging

    Time to laugh, and shiver and die

    Metal Gear Solid~

  • they changed the vocies from the ps1 version! i hated that!

  • @sinjeet1 Actually, the only character whose voice was actually changed was Gray Fox (He was originally voiced by Greg Eagles, the same VA as Donald Anderson, but he was changed to Rob Paulsen). The rest of the characters reprised their roles.

  • I was drawing on a different tab and when I heard "The world that now SPURNS our very existence", I thought I heard, "The world that now SPERMS our very existence"

    ._.

  • God damnit WoW... all I can think about is Blood Elves when I hear Liquid's voice xDD

  • @kokkoru67

    Tell me about it xD

  • You enjoy all the killing... THATS WHY

  • What doesn't make sense? Liquid plans to liberate all soldiers so they have a true purpose again and no longer pawns hense why he calls Shadow Moses Outer Heaven.

  • nice

  • i love this epic fight.......when my brother bought me this game, i took a couple of days to pass it

  • "you enjoy all the killing, thats why!"

  • do they have more siblings?? I heared about Solidus but do they have moore bros?

  • liquid is the best villin ever

  • amen 2 dat

  • why the hell liquid is pissed of at snake? because snake got "dominant genes" and he has the shitty ones? yes i know snake is inferior one, buts whats the difference if you got dominant or ressive genes?

  • Liquid Snake doesn't like to be treated as the crappy version of Big Boss.

  • @gronndar I supposes the dominant genes mean Solid Snake got all of Big Bosses Strengths when it came to combat and other things like that. Liquid thought he got the "leftover" genes that were of no decent use or contained Big Bosses flaws

  • so if there clones why is liquid blonde and have a differant voice ?

  • I gotta buy a gamecube although I love the ps1 version more than my life I need to try this remake too

  • If u have got a Wii then you caj get the game, a gamecube controller and a memory card and you can play it thru the Wii

  • LOL super baby

    i'm glad i watched this video, the first time i saw it (back in the ps1) i didn't get shit from it

  • Correct me if I'm wrong,but Dominant genes doesn't mean superior--sometimes recessive is better.

  • You're confusing population genetics with individual genetics. In terms of individual genetics, recessive means an unexpressed trait.

    So, since Big Boss's traits make him a superior soldier, ie those traits which are expressed (dominant), it stands to reason that the unexpressed (recessive) traits are, in this context, inferior.

    The whole Solidus thing is where it really cocks up.

  • What do you mean?

  • Snakes there becaues Cambell was blackmailing Snake with some crap.(If you dont know what i mean, then look at the brifingfrom MGS1 or MGS TTS)

  • I think it had to do something with the superior and inferior genes they adapted. I dont think that they really cleared up why it didnt kill snake.

  • This is cleared up in Metal Gear Solid 4. Actually, almost all questions are answered in Metal Gear Solid 4. Go play it, yo. No PS3? A likely excuse.

  • Uhmmm.... i actually do have the game and I did beat it.

    I beat it over a year ago and now whenever I play I skip the cutscenes.

  • "Super babies project" xDDD

    LOL..

  • so many words,so many comments

  • is it just me, or does snake only have one word answers to liquid right after the first few min

  • Snake keeps talking like he's drunk in this. He keeps on repeating everything Liquid says and talks funny in general.

  • Did you hear what he said? "I won't die, as long as you still live...."

  • D3V1L3 ,just because Liquid Snake said "I won't die as long as you still live", that doesn't make it true.

  • You cab't rule it out, you know what designers are like.

  • The game desginger (Kojima Hideo) didn't say that Liquid Ocelot was Liquid Snake himself. It was merely Ocelot under mind control.

  • That's not what i just said though was it :P

  • Say what ?

  • That Ocelot was liquid :P

  • But he actually isn't. Did you pay attention to the game until the end?

  • Jesus christ! i said i never said he was ffs :P learn to read.

  • But that's what you implied.

  • It isn't what i implied else i would have said it -.- Ocelot plainly isn't liquid because they are two different people, it was all to do with nano machines.

  • And hypnotism.

  • liquids arm controlled ocelot, liquid could control him by his arm, his body is ocelot but the minds liquid :D :P

  • Solidus, the perfect clone, was the younger than the twin Snakes but the Patriots accelerated his aging process, and made him a leader like Big Boss. They may or may not have manipulated him into leading child soldiers (including Raiden)during the Liberian civil war as a teenager, but they definately wanted a perfect Big Boss to be US President.

  • Liquid looks just like EVA yet she didnt give him any traits....hmmmmm....Creepy

  • Thats true...I think of it this way: Liquid, the dominant one, was moved to the UK and got into the SAS at Zero's request (being a proud Brit and former SAS soldier, he mustv wanted to see what a British Big Boss would be like without any recessive genes). He got Big Boss's properties both as a special forces soldier AND as a leader, and a hair style similar to EVAs. Solid Snake only inherited Big Boss's Naked Snake 'persona' as a result of getting rcessive genes.

  • Stinkyglasses, all you've said about recessive and dominant genes is an Aberrhation against Genetics

  • Oh well!

  • so the boss was killed by big boss. big boss is the guy sneakin around during the cold war in mgs 3. his genes were taken to produce liquid, solidus and solid (why the fuck did they name two of them almost the same) snake. snake killed solidus but thought it was big boss, liquid must have somehow died too because ocelot has his arm in the end. i hope thats right so far...

    what role did solidus play at all, except for getting burned instead of big boss?

  • someone else has answered the "what role did solidus play" question, but to you and everyone else who wonder why he is called "solidus" it is because in chemistry terms, a solidus is the point between a liquid and a solid, in that sense it is like a melting point

  • because he is an exact copy (clone) of big boss...

  • mgs1 is still to this day the best game ever made MGS4 doesnt come close

  • love Cam Clarke's voice want that on my answering machine.

  • LOL me too! that would be... THE SHIT!!!

  • And that's why it won't be on an answering machine.

  • lmao! yeah more of a face to face deal

  • thumbs down from people who didn't play mgs4, i suppose Oo

  • is that liquid out of ocelots body or in his body

  • Obviously, that's the real Liquid Snake in his real body, before this arm transplant nonsense began.

  • Solid Snake has fucking black brown hair and Liquid has blonde hair as the game shows fuck lol.

    everyone mixing shit up. just play the games.

  • liquid has blonde hair because of eva =)

  • lol i remember after like 2 minutes i skipped it and i was like wow theres more then again WOW MORE and 1 more time LOL WOW LIQUID COME ON

  • They Both had long Blonde hair before... Snake Cut his before Shadow moses, So people wouldln't confuse him for the terriost leader Liquid Snake

  • Yes, in the old game of the first playstation console, you can see some videos when Snake is interrogated by Col.Campell in a cell, and you can see snake with long blonde hair.

  • He never had blonde ahir to being with, that's what the camera's view style led us to think. Don't let appearances fool you.

  • no snake and liquid both have dark hair liquid decicded to dye blonde to seperate from snake because the were so alike.its his way of stepping out of snakes shadow if you will

  • liqid didnt dye his hair, he just got his mother EVA genes more than his father genes naked snake

  • um WRONG. Eva contributed no chromosomes to liquid nor snake. She was just their SURROGATE MOTHER, just a womb for the two to grow in and be delivered from. Big Boss' recessive gene's must have included blonde hair genotype(which alot of brown haired caucasian men have.) if any of the twins got genes from eva than they could not be considered clones. Okay?

  • Thank You!Finally someone who understands.

  • There clones ya diddy, clones only have one parent like a potato plant!! ;)

  • Fighting? Created? Super Baby Method? Octuplets? The Genome Soldiers? Sacrifices?

    God, is Snake a parrot or something?

  • Finally! Someone apart from me who notices this!

    A nuclear weapon? Older generation? Trick? Liquid Snake? Shadow Moses? Drebin? Metal Gear? P.M.C? Big Boss's body? Psycho Mantis? Metal Gear (again?)?

  • XD LMFAO!

  • Liquid looks like Big Mama. Solid looks like Big Boss.

  • nice observation! i never thought of that.

    ive always wondered why liquid was a blonde and british. someone said he was raised there others say that his accent is just sinister not british. i say, whats the difference.

  • It still doesn't explain why Liquid has all of Big Boss' dominate genes yet has blond hair wich is recessive gene. (Not that the whole dominate/recessive bull crap they're pulling here is correct anyway, but still. Blond hair is a recessive triat.)

  • well i think the only reason they would give him a British accent is because...well think about it. would you REALLY want to hear two of the same voices at once? If you look away from the TV you would be confused all the way to hell. Also i think the voice matches Liquid nicley.

  • geez, all i ever see in liquid now is Sean Bean...i mean they look exactly the same because they're both British and have that same hair. Plus Sean Bean always plays a bad guy and he's great at it.

  • "You enjoy killing thats why" You hear that if you kill so many people in 1 battle in MGS4. Shortly after that snake will vomit :). this explains alot

  • Each of the Les Enfant Terribles resemble there father in a way Solid resembles Big Boss when he was Young Solidus resembles Big Boss when he was old but Liquid doesnt have any similarity to the Big Boss at all

  • lol Liquid resembles Big Boss when Big Boss was a hardcore teen with long blonde hair! But Snake and Liquid look very alike in Twin Snakes

  • Since when Big Boss was a blonde teenager?

  • OMG can't you take a damn joke!?

  • I didn't know that was a joke.

  • i wish liquid would say in his voice, "YOU INSOLENT FOOL!" isnt that such a liquid thing to say?

  • That's the kind of thing that "antique villains" usually say.

  • but it would totally fit the situation of snake not understanding.

  • The Shredder (from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles) also uses lines like those.

  • it also reminds me of jaffar from aladdin.

  • *snake voice* What!?

  • "They intentionally *ABORTED SIX OF THE EIGHT FETUSES* to encourage strong fetal growth....we were *ACCOMPLICES IN MURDER* before the day we were even born."

    That took guts to put this quote in there. Hats off to Kojima.

  • if they aborted six of the eight and the remaining to were liquid and solid, where does solidus come in?

  • solidus is a exact clone of big boss im pretty sure he was made before liquid and solid to assume the role of the president

  • solidus was a seperate clone and was identical to big boss. (and something i found out on the mgs database, solidus was the president!!) eva was not a serrogate for solidus.

  • If six of the fetuses were aborted then Snake and Liquid must have been from a divided egg and Solidus must have come from another egg.

  • if it was a divided egg they would be twins

  • when he talks of the the terible children or something or about creating them

    if ya had full controll of your player during cutsecens like some games could jsut push him off while he rants on quick kill :P and save meryl faster :P buthten that wont make a game

    :(

  • ok, and now! Let's fight!

  • why does snake always sound so pissed? or does he have a cold?

  • snake and his one word comments of confusion he sounds like such a dumbass in mgs1 lol

  • they should of have liquid snake voice on mgs4

  • They chose to do it as Ocelot had Liquid's personality put inside him so Liquid never did control Guns of the Patriots. I thought he did at first until I was told.

  • I think by symmetry he mean they are all gay. :P

  • i love the way snake only says oneliners and all in questions

  • Snake is not the only person who asks those questions.

  • Who else?

  • Raiden.

  • Yeah I suppose but Snake asks more questions than Raiden I've noticed.

  • But Snake isn't the only one who does that.

  • Yeah I do too. I suppose it's his nature.

  • snake ask more questions due to the fact he knows what the hell hes doin raiden didnt know anything when he was placed into big shell he did everything he was told

  • I don't really understand how you had trouble understanding this. It makes perfect sense if you pay attention in the game.

  • I don't really understand how you had trouble understanding this. It makes perfect sense if you pay attention in the game.

  • That's crazy!

    They killed six other babies just so they can make a perfect soldier?!

    That's horrbile!

    I feel bad for soild,liquid,and solidus

    Also,liquid has a big ass mouth.

  • he is an egomaniac... plus hardly anyone would have gotten the story unless he spilled the beans :D

  • you said on the video information that all liquid said didnt make sense?? ... EVERYTHING he says makes sense, if you have played the old MG1 and MG2 games + MGS3 and 2.. u would know what hes talking about.

  • i didnt think they were clones I thought him and eva had them

  • they are clones!! cant wait to see what twists are in the story when mgs4 comes out!!!

  • wait i thought solidus snake from mgs2 was also liquid's and solid's brother too

  • Solidus was a clone from Big Boss along with Solid and Liquid so I think his clones might consider them a brother too, BigWowMovies.

  • solid and liquid did not know about solidus in mgs1, the only one that knew about solidus was ocelot because at the time solidus was PRESIDENT and ocelot was working/double crossing solidus as later revealed at the end of mgs2.

  • Yeah. I have heard of all that information already. I know that Solidus was mentioned in MGS1 and MGS: The Twin Snakes because I heard that intermission at the end when Ocelot was talking.

  • Solidus is not a clone, he's just some idiot who survive the lens enfants terrible project too, he call them brothers because he survived the same project as they.

    By the way Solidus is the lamest character ever created.

  • Well, I guess you can say that, but it still sounds like the same information that I stated out. I thought all three Snakes were clones, but I guess Solidus wasn't. Or maybe he was. I don't know. I do know about Solidus also about how he was almost sort of the inferior one like Liquid too or something like that. I guess. He doesn't even survive after the events of MGS2 unlike Liquid did when he controlled Ocelot. Oh well.

  • Solidus is a clone in the way, he carries the same genetic design, but his genes are mixed around, so that no one would know of the link when the patriots elected him president

  • yeah....u can tell...he's missing the same eye as big boss

  • eh, he dosent lose the eye until sons of liberty, he had both eyes when he was George Sears

  • yeah, cuz when hes in the big jet wit vamp he gets his eye shot out

  • yeah solidus is the perfect clone cause he is identical

  • Solidus is identical to Big Boss but Snake and Liquid look identical to the young Big Boss. It's very cool how they do it.

  • cool

  • lol did he say "sperms our very existence"? that doesnt make any sense what so ever

  • He said "spurns", you def.

  • "lol did he say "sperms our very existence"? that doesnt make any sense what so ever" He said spurns!

  • Jesus Christ. I'm scrolling innocently through videos and see the description on this one... without even glancing at the username I'm like THAT'S GOTTA BE ZARLA. Best thing is YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW ME hahaha.

  • why......u cant just say its gay based on nothing...

  • LOLZ Super Baby

  • Zarla what exactly doesn't make sense? The only real problem I saw was that Kojima doesn't really know crap about genetics: It is heavily implied that Liquid had recessive genes but was better and Solid dominant but weaker. But how do we know what were the recessive genes? Like blue eyes or green eyes?

  • Blonde hair is a recessive trait(so Liquid has the recessive pheno type). And if a person has both, only the dominant will be expressed, so their's really no diffrence what so ever between Big Boss and the domiant carrier.

    Dominant and recessive pheno types are just "names". The dominant pheno type is just a name(ít's not stronger in any way). The recessive pheno type is not weaker in any way.

  • Not to mention that having a dominant cancer gene for instance is pretty bad news! So if were simply talking directly on that Liquid had the genes with out any flaws he had the recessive genes.

  • That whole part about Gulf War Syndrome...

    Bad fucking idea...

    Don't go making shit up like that!

  • Yeah and there really is a Metal Gear somewhere in this world right? If the entire story is fictional, they can do whatever they want. So Earth has saiyans? Why haven't I seen that? Oh wait there aren't?

    Don't go making shit up like that!

  • But... there is a Gulf War Syndrome... and people have suffered from it...

    ...and I never heard of Saiyans attacking people in real life...

    So, what's yer fuckin' point, you cheap dork?

  • My point is fiction can do whatever it wants BECAUSE it's fiction. Dumbass.

  • But denying the Gulf War Syndrome is like denying the Holocaust. You just don't do something like that. It's shameful, you prick.

  • Do you play Medal of Honor or Call of Duty? Do you play killing games? It's all the same thing. You're making fun of life by killing simulated people, real people die, it's shameful, you prick. I'm just saying you're a hypocrite because you should look at it that way too. I don't. So whatever.

  • Medal of Honor didn't deny anything, where's your fuckin' point?

  • MGS never denyed anything either!

  • Yes, and according to the MGS saga the gulf war syndrom was because of Big Boss's killer genes!

    If you suddenly got an entirly diffrent personality and instincts into you, your own personality and the new one will start a struggle inside..... And you would be pretty fucked up!

  • Yeah, liquids voice ruled in the original MGS to PS... This voice isn't as... Evil? =D

  • I agree. And he was more emotional... But Cam Clarke is still one of the best VA:s in the english dub of Metal Gear Solid.

  • neither can solidus shut up either

  • your accent is annoying!

  • his accent is annoying --""

  • Are you stupid? Cam Clarke makes a perfect Liquid! And whoever suggested that Johnny Depp to play as Liquid should stfu...you don't know shit. Liquid was sent to Britain therefore he has a British accent. I wish Cam Clarke could return and play Liquid in MGS4.

  • totally agree with MidNiteR32. I personally feel the ps1 version more realistic, but I think I´m just being nostalgic, both Liquid voices are awesome, and his accent just make him an even more original character! and Liquid is just perfect, a psicho, but still perfect.

  • Yes and that's why Mei Ling has an accent if she was born and raised in the US, and is a government worker?

  • if he was alive.

  • Have you even seen the the latest trailers or even played MGS2. Liquid has complete control of Ocelot. But he won't be returning to reprise his roles as Liquid, Zimmerman will take over the role of both.

  • That's what I mean't.

    Cam Clarke Died. So Zimmerman takes both roles.

  • Cam Clarke is alive

    He's not dead

    The only person dead is the VA for Ocelot in the japanese version and is no voiced by the VA of Liquid while it's the reverse for the English version.

    Anyway Cam is alive

  • My god. I always get that mixed up. This argument went nowhere.

    w/e at least you cleared it up.

  • no problem

    lol I thought he was dead too

    kinda got sad for a while

    till I was told that he was alive

    which is pretty cool

  • Yesh Banjo Giga died, so they had to use Liquid's actor. I don't know why Kojima decided to use Zimmerman if he already showed that when Liquid takes control he has his own voice. Though physically it's impossible: vocal chords and such.

  • johnny depp should play liquid in a metal gear movie

  • absolutely not.

  • Johnny Depp?! WTF?! don't fucking disgrace MGS... go kill yourself... no faggot celebrates are going to play the roles of MY childhood heros.