You are such a loser, the way you interpret stuff, like the story about the date tree, he means its pain of the woman? You are so ignorant, you take tiny bits that you don't understand and twist it into something completely different. If you were an outsider of islam and hated the religion, you would do the same things you did here with the quran.
@thetruth3891 jazakallah khayran - we have made an awareness campaign and we have been working very hard in this field for many years. visit us at thecult(dot)info and see the blog and forum. We do talks at masaajid, on TV and radio etc.
brother good word..i had a argument with a qadiani few months bak but it did'nt work cuz he was nt ready to accept anything even if i provided him the proofs of his falsehood.i mentioned so many lies and contradictions in mirza's books and asked him to check them but he simply refused and said u r lieng..i hv nevr come across a single qadiani who can give clear answeres of simplest questions.
@ontheball247 Stop spamming. Be patient. Your comment on the correct post got approved. And you're writing anti-Islamic garbage. Stop committing shirk before it's too late.
AOa.Allah isnt obliged to follow the rules of grammer made by man.He has provided man with ability to communicate.When ever He reveals anything to His loved ones He knows better what He reveals.Whereas revelation of chapters of the Holy Quran are concerned we have many example in the history of Islam that God revealed the Chapters to His beloved ones like In Tazkira tul Aulia we found that Abdullah Ghaznavi a famous saint said that complete Holy Quran revealed to him.
well done brother, everytime i see these followers of ahmadiaya in cold weather comming early in the morning to their mosque, i feel pity for them as they are torturing their bodies and soul for false prohpet who died while shitting in the dirty place.
salam to brother shahid kamal i just happend to flick thru some anti ahmadiya sites and i came across ur videos but boy did u make me laugh ''vee can wat we will do'' hhaahhhahaah lol i mean seriuosly do the qadianis not study mirzas wrtings it seems they follow a flind faith i guess thats what u call a cult iam so glad brother shahid has left this cult and joined the ummah of RASULALLAH [SAW] wassalam
That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them [or it appeared so unto them], and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not: Nay, Allah raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise.
@atmasood -->Brother masood....no one is laughing at a Messenger...Mirza Ghulam is not the promished Messaih..he cannot be the Messaih..you just read at his books..full of deception falshood bad language..wake up brother Qadiyanism was created by The British to control and divide the Muslim Ummah.. Mirza was a Aleem no doubt in that..he knew stuff but my dear brother Shaitan also has full knowledge but he is still astray and indeed he has mislead you all via Qadianism.wake up n seek the truth!!
@atmasood your standard, than you to are a prophet (rather false prophet) coz i'm laughing at u right now giving these comments. O the deviant one may Allah give you Hidaya and if you r not able for that, may Allah curse you
@atmasood Oh the deviant one listen carefully ( i'm trying to make u listen & understand even i know its useless), Allah says they cann't listen nor they see even if they have ears and eyes ( about people like you ), you have such a narrow minded approach about Quaranic verses that to defend you and someone wrong to prove him right. Let me Finish, The point you mentioned people laugh on prophets, O deviant one ponder! this doesn't mean if we laugh one anyone he is a messenger. If this
Mirza Ghulam Ahmd Qadiani kisi Super Flop GASHOTD MAA ka bacha tha....pata nai kis GASTI ki GAAAAAND se niklaa hua Keeda mADRCHOD.....AUR US K MAANE wale us se bhi bade Harami ki nasal hain.........MIRZA TAHIR & MIRZA MASROOR in sab ki Betiyon ki CHOOOT mai LULLLLLLLLA.........Bhosdi k. @These Mother Fuckers are spoiling all da Muslims in da World....& tht is UN-Acceptable...Islam is Protected frm All da Religion but not from AHMDIYAAT....so I request my All da Muslim Brothers & Sisterers,
It seemed to me that the "Majesctic English-man" is his GOD! I believe he (MIrza Ghulam) was a paid servant of the british empire and was part of the empire's grand scheme to divide and weaken the ummah. This guy is in the same league as Sharif Hussein & Abdul Aziz Saud, save the other two did not claim prophethood.
shahid man great job ... you have such a laid back attitude , so softly spoken words ... but your words do come across ... why dont you quote from the real roohani khazayain ... these books are still better crafted to cast off doubts ... but roohani was the main item ... its full of shit ....
btw great work ... i can see u hate dem ...coz u wasted alot of ur life in it ... but i m glad that now that u see the light ... u work for the light ...
in islam jihad is a obligation when another country occupy your land,,,when british took india ,,and that time india and pakistan are one country,,,so muslim declare jihad against british ,,,this man amadiya he was a spy with british,he got million of dollar so he can tell muslims that jihad against british is false ,,but muslims didnt listen to him,,and the muslims who kick out british from india,,,,so this men keep telling the 3 world that ( jihad) fight for your land is forbidden in islam,,
Mirza Gulam Qadeyani was a fucking KIZAB,he was a LANTI,HE was murdud & Murtud,All the Qadeyanis who belive the Mirza Kizab they r Kafir & Murtud.He was not Imam Mehdi,yeh kesa Imam mehdi hey ju k kuch nahi kar saka islam k ley bulky Muslamano k nam par daba hey,or kabi Mahdi or kabi Mohammad s.a.w SAni "nauz billlh"apny aap ku kehlata hey?Mirza Qadeyani was a fucking Kizab our Shit mouth.Allah Es Mirza Qadeyani Fitna say hum sab ku mahfouz rakhy ,aamin
The former is likely, but they don't have anybody serving in the Israeli army. Having said that, they did invite the war criminal Shimon Peres as an "honoured guest" to their "iftar" last year....
In the mind of the Blind, The light of the Moon dosen't exist!
There are more Qadianis serving in the Israeli Goverment then there are in Pakistani goverment... That is a fact.... All you need to do is look in to who is running Israel..... It was the Jews who made this Trojan Horse (Qadianism)... There are Qadiani Soldiers who were fighting the Arabs, Along side the Jews... You Don't beleive ?.... Ask Any Qadiani, They will tell you the love for jews!
Brother you are confusing a number of issues here. I have studied this extensively. (I hope you realise that I am the person who made the video you're commenting on...) - Muslims should always stick to the evidence and the truth. Read Bashir Ahmed's book on British and Jewish association with the Qadianis. (I have already confirmed in my comment above that they prefer Jews to Muslims as is further evidenced by any "inter-faith" conference they hold)
@ShaitanIZBack , Yes , we Ahmadies have love for the jews, as well as all the mankind whatever thier believe, religion, or culture. just like our beloved Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) used to do, he use to meet and greet any one and every one, there were several occasions when he had lunch/dinner with Non muslims, including jews. this is how he converted the most of the arabs. and not by the sword. this is the path of Muhammad(PBUH) , which we love to follow
@ShaitanIZBack whereas serving in Israeli govt or army is concern, I dont know who is your inside informer, coz i dont know a thing about it, and I,m a Proud Ahmadi. I wonder if your allegations are correct then how and why Israeli govt /Army forgot to invite me to serve for them? but again this is not true and just a bunch of lies , which your so called mullah's have spreaded to create hatred towards ahmadi's. nothing true in it. :)
Lant hu Mirza Kizab par,us k manny waloun par,Mirza was a shit person but mirzai called him ...Nabi?kon sa nabi?us ku nabi sabat karny k lay Quran e pak ki aayat ku chang karny ki koshesh ki jate hey.nauz billah,us jesy paled insan par tu thukna b nahi chahy tum Mirzai Kasedy parte hu?Islam nam hey Mohammad S.A.W k Den ka,tum log den e islam say mazak karte hu?Mohammad S.A.W ka nam or Den e islam ku ley kar Mirza k pechy chalte hu?Yeh kesa islam hey Mirzayio?Nabi Karim S.A.W is last Nabi
Salam.... Braaaaaaaaaaaaaavo shahid brov... keep ur gud work up... and tell the ppl about dis BLOOOODY cunt.... lolz.. sowi for usin dese words.. ba u knw being a muslim it jus commin in mind while listened his Bull shit.. .. weldone again..
why u reading this in a funny accent mr kamal u should not do that i do not think that u will be able to laugh in some time becuz u are really calling for allahs punishmnet hope u will change i can just pray for u may allah have mercy on u
I THANK ALLAH, for not creating me as a woman and for creating me as a muslim who believes till he will die that There is NO ALLAH than the one, the only. And I thank ALLAH for not creating me in a womb of Ahmedi woman. O Allah, i just cant thank you enuff. Thanks to you for blessing me a home where we all believe that Mohammand SLAWAW is the LAST prophet of ALLAH. There shall be no one after him and Eesa Ibn Maryam WILL be brought back to start the process of Qayamat. I Believe in you ALLAH
of course this is the state of non-Ahmadi badboodar mullahs now., the whole world looks with utter shock and horror the primitive barbaric "achievements" ..latest in Islamabad..of these ghaleez creatures and look what they are busy doing....pronouncing others as non-Muslims and becomeing judges of Islam! yah world News is right - u are terrorists and the bane of this world - and denizens of Hell too - killers of innocent and priests of hatred....jaahil ghaleez cave-dwelling illiterate junglio.
toh tu kya hai? You belive in one piece of shit drug addict mirza as being a prophet?
guess what, FUCK YOU and fuck your mirza twice, if he was alive i'd kill him in such a way that no ones else would ever do such blasphemy against Islam. Islam has clearly taught MUSLIMS to differentiate between kaafirs and muslims.... understand?
NO ONE CALLS YOU FAGGOT ASS AHAMDI KAAFIRS, WITHOUT PROOF,
very good work, keep it up. ALLAH will reward you for your work. I request to all Ahmadi brothers ans sisters please study the Quran, Hadith and then the books of teachings of Mirza Ghulam Ahmed and then ask urself "If Mirza's books and teachings are according to QURAN and HADITH or not."Then choose a right path for yourself and for your future generations.Please don't follow any one with close eyes. Please study his teachings and then use your mind.Believe me you will not loose any thing.
It's not just someone makhawaja, it's lots of Ahmadis used disgusting language and even threatened my kids. Please don't misunderstand, I'm not mocking your English, you write English better than I speak Urdu or Punjabi.
I don't have to prove Mirza Sahib's revelation is fake - it speaks for itself.
I'm happy to talk with you too, you seem like a decent person. As for the tablahs, or any drums, they are permitted in all schools of thought.
I'm sorry tt someone hs used vulgar language at u.U hv right to make fun of my english but u still cann't prove tt Mirza sb's revelation is fake.Hazrat Messih Maud hv never claimed tt his revelation superceede (maazullah)Quranic verses.Secondly,Quranic verses hv been revealed to many Aulia Allah before Messih Maud,what irony hv u found in these verses?I am ready to communicate with U if u r ready bro.And finally please off the sound of Tablah,if ur maulvis hear they might declare u kafir too.
None of your stupid comments have been blocked, they have passed through quickly. What on earth is your point? If you can't write English properly (and that's fine, I'm not mocking you) then how can you understand how stupid "We can what we will do" sounds to anyone who knows any English?
Comments are on approval because some of your cohorts use such vulgar language, that I would rather my children did not read how you people abuse me. Understand?
If u r too bold to refute Ahmadiyya with ur ironic language then y u r putting our comments for the approval?Put them in the view of the public and they will know who is using decent language and who is using the language of his forefathers who used to adopt every cheap tactics to hurt and harm Ahmadis in all over the world,especially in so called ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF PAKISTAN.
you are not Ahmadi and u r kicked out of jamat i think so and jamat Ahmadia did not need human like (sorry to say you human),keep on doing this we will see what what you can do .
AOA Bro,You hv adopted the way of non Muslims when they read the Quran and they find hundreds of fault,Arabic errors,un-civilized and extremist commands(maazullah).Bro,sorry to write tt I found u not different frm them.If u r frequent visitor of Youtube,then see by yourself and u will ashamed of your method of defying Mirza Ghulam Ahmad.Just as non-Muslim brothers are unable to see Quranic beauty so are u who couldn't perceive the comprehension of the revelations of the Promised Messiah.
i enjoy your work i have a mirzi friend who asked me if i considered her a Muslim sister i replied no i see u as a friend who is ahmedi, was i wrong i told her about mirza predictions n how he kept changing them i.e wiv marrying his uncle daughter who if refused and married someone else would die in two years n her dad in 3 but it dnt happened she married someone else and they were married 40 yrs after mirza died, your work brother will inshallah help her see it in the modern way of thinking.
Jazak Allah kul khair brother. Keep your cool and just expose this cult and insha Allah , Allah will reward u good .Oh I wish if Abu Baker or Omer (RAA)were around , but Allah chooses whomever he want to his path. Not even Muslim by birth is a savior as far as "inner bigger circle of Islam".No one is lucky without test.
If you're as satisfied as you obviously claim to be after reverting to "Islam," your energy spent on creating these numerous videos to "mock" the Jam'at seems more than strange.
Inner peace shows. It hasn't in a single one of your videos.
And it would be nice if FOR ONCE, an opposition of Jam'at Ahmadiyya could produce an HONEST claim. Just once.
I believe the Quran is the perfect book and final teaching to the world. But I absolutely don't agree that the door of revelation is closed. Which Quranic verse(s) do you quote to support this claim of yours that the door of revelation is now closed?
Mr Kamal I quote your previuos comment "I have made the assertion in the video". Now you are saying you have made no assertion. You are now side stepping the issue. We were talking about whether P.M.'s (as) revelation made sense or not. you repeatedly made the assertion that it didnt make sense to you as a sentence but without explaining HOW. Now you are totally shifting the argument to something different all together.
Oh come on mrleholloway, you are just arguing for argument's sake!
You are Mirza's devotee. Please explain to me how "We can what we will do" makes sense. It's not my job to explain to you how it is nonsense. That's just absurd!
The map of nonsensical English is practically infinite!
...continued. Just because you say this statement is "nonsense" doesn't make it nonsense. It's for you to prove it wrong. If, as you say, it's so blatantly wrong, and so obviously incorrect, it should be very easy for you to explain HOW it is wrong. But you seem to be having great difficulty in explaining why you consider it to be nonsense.
Mr Kamal. That is exactly what I have been trying to make you understand. You "have made an assertion" in the video, but without explaining how you have come to this assertion. You have given me the example of a court of law many times. Well you should know that innocent until proven guilty.
mrleholloway - I did not make the assertion. Mirza made the assertion that he was getting revelations from God in multiple languages. Apart from everything else, this is against the Qur'an and even against Mirza's own words. Please, look at Mirza's revelations in English for yourself.
Ur argument was that the english was bad. Now u seem to be admitting that the english is fine in terms of its grammar, but it just doesnt make sense? If you were smart you would be aware that the english spoken, and even written today has undergone a phenomenal process of evolution. You need to argue in the context of Elizabethan English, not postmodern English. That is where your daleel is flawed.
I have made the assertion in the video. It's your job to prove that the sentence made sense at any point. We're going around in circles now, of course I understand the historical context, but the sentence is still nonsense. I am staggered that a person of your intelligence is defending it and arguing on side issues.
Mr Kamal. I have written many comments but they have yet to appear here. I repeat once again my question to you: Can you explain to me what is wrong with the phrase 'We Can What We Will Do'? I see nothing wrong with its grammar. But, of course, u consider me as a terrible judge. I therefore ask you to explain to me what is wrong with this revelation? Care to explain as you have failed to in your video?
You're kidding right? You have sunk to a new nadir. I thought you were smart? Does the sentence make any sense to you? Why are you defending this? There are plenty of grammatically correct sentences in English that are complete nonsense. Please, it makes you look very silly to try and defend this, but if you want more proof, I will do one more video on this subject, insha'Allah.
And anyhow Im not writing an acadmeic essay in these comments it doesnt matter to me if i spell correctly or not!! My PHD lecturers some of whom are world famous in their field have admitted to our class they are terrible at spelling. U actually sound like my friends they say 'ure doing english how come u cant spell that word, how come u dont know what this word means'. Geez!! I dont do English to improve my spelling!!
It was your grammar that was awful and that was my predominant criticism - and still is. That makes you very poorly placed to judge what is grammatical and what is not. Your punctuation is also a joke and if you want to write PhD, the 'h' needs to be lower case. So your strawman on spelling is a daft diversion. Note that I criticised your English first and then made the secondary point on spelling.
There is actually absolutely nothing wrong with gramatically in any way whatseover with the phrase 'We Can What We Will Do'. It is aboslutely correct gramatically. Also Mr Shahid have u seen the videos made by 'AnAhmadi' who responded to these what r u views on that?
i have just read your message again and am staggered that somebody who claims to be doing high level English can produce such terrible English. Did you actually read your first sentence? Do you check your spelling?
As for "AnAhmadi" - none of these people have ever allowed my comments through once I start giving them reasonable answers. You will note however, that Qadianis are free to come here and abuse me and even threaten my life.
Try giving that motto to your Qadiani cohorts. Look at some of their comments and you will open your eyes if you really think you are "true Islam". In the meantime, do you have anything to say about the content of the video? Do you realise that Mirza was a charlatan for attributing such random rubbish to God Almighty? And that your belief in him renders YOU deluded?
To the poor soul who took too much time to create this low budget film.
What makes you the authority on religion. You have a rather arrogant approach.
"What do you propose I do, walk away when I know the truth and let some poor soul lose its way because they were deceived by a deviant, hypocritical, lying cult?"
The fact that you are making these videos opposing the beliefs of a harmless/non-violent sect of Islam speaks for itself. It shows you are threatened, but why so, if as you claim, "their claims are laughable." Ironic, no? Perhaps, then, their claims are NOT laughable and something that may in fact bear truth. Perhaps, you should spend more time propogating what you believe, instead of worrying about what others want to believe. Perhaps, this will construe you as less desperate and bitter.
Please understanding something, Qadianis are not a sect of Islam. It is their duplicity that is the problem, not their creed.
If somebody were selling knock-offs of life-saving equipment and you knew about it, wouldn't you warn the potential buyers? Here we are talking about the soul, more important still!
What do you propose I do, walk away when I know the truth and let some poor soul lose its way because they were deceived by a deviant, hypocritical, lying cult? Tskk tssk.
u argued that anyone who sees Ahmadiyyat 'for a couple of seconds' wouldnt take it seriously because its so glaringly laughable. Based on this logic the same people should only take a few seconds to see the fake equipment and u WUDNT need to warn them, beause it would be so obvious 2. U r making contradictory statements, saying on one hand people can c for themsevles in a few secs how wrong we are, and also saying it requires u to remind them owise they will not know. Which one is it?
Subhanallah the prophet said he was the last what dont people get what your saying it true KEEP IT UP BRO!!!i follow muhammed he is the last no one is after he people open your eyes and read what the quran and the saying of the prophet says HE IS THE LAST CLOSED end seal PROPHET!!!
(cont). However, i think that one of the things that attracts people to the fold of Ahmadiyyat is the interpretations of the Quran about the creation story i.e Was Adam and Eve the first and only people to create mankind; did the flood encompass the whole world or just part of Mesopotamia?; Did Prophet Isa (AS) Ascend to Heaven? Did Prophet Mohammad Ascend to heaven physically or spiritually? Do we look at things from a rational disposition or one that opposes God's natural laws.
Have you actually read that charlatan's trash? None of what you say has anything to do with Islam and everything to do with trying to bend your religion to please your Western masters. As for Mirza being rational? Are you really that ignorant? Have you read what he wrote? Ink drops falling from the sky? Magic incantations on dry chick peas? Now please, stop wasting my time and get back to the video. I've cut you far more slack than your qadiani brothers have already.
If you are going to say that I am pleasing my Western Masters then it is as much YOU pleasing your Eastern Masters-Al Qaeda. So you be the judge!
I originally said that you will find in the Quran words as exactly or similarly revealed in earlier books. Does this mean that God did not reveal them to the Prophet Mohammad (SAW) or that he just plagiarized it from the earlier books? Heaven forbid!
Hey talk about plagiarism. The Gilgamesh Epics and the Sumerian and Babylonian Genesis which are recognized as the oldest form of writings makes you wonder when you look at the creation and flood stories that are so similar to the ones that "later" appear in the Hebrew Bible and then "much later" in the Quran. Wow it seems that borrowed revelation seems to be a continuous pattern throughout religious history. What do you think?
Interesting theory, but with schoolboy errors really, deserving a longer treatise. 500 characters won't cut it. However, "borrowing" is too harsh to describe what you're referring to, and way to soft to describe the mistake-ridden plagiarism that Mirza was guilty of. Randomly quoting verses of the Qur'an and switching the personal pronoun so that it becomes nonsense is not "borrowing".
"School boy errors"? I think not.Of course 500 chars does no justice, but its not a theory but a known fact. Being a Muslim does not make it a theory.The fact is that the Sumerian tablets do exist. You only have to reserach yourself like you are asking Ahmadi's to read all of the books of the PM which they should. (see next comment)
Shahid, did Jews not make similar charges against the Holy Prophet (SAW) of the claim that he used certain passages of the Bible that you now make against the PM?
Do you think then that Ahmadi's should declare themselves a different religion to Islam, much like what Christians are to the Jews? Then case solved right?
Yes, if Ahmadis declare themselves a separate religion, then that solves a lot of problems. Lots of prominent Ahmadis already did this, starting with Mirza's sons.
But is it not possible to intepret the spreading of the message to the four corners of the Earth as meaning that God will protect those that spread it?
Sir Satan Rushdie blasphemed the Holy Prophet. He is an unfortunate ignoble soul. The Promised Messiah's praise of Holy Prophets are unprecedented. No one in Ummat has so beutifully and comprehensively praised the Holy Prophet PBUH. It's great spritual pleasue to convey Holy Prophet PBUH's salam to the Promised Messiah.
Promised Messiah's (AS) wisdom u cannot understand without TAQWA. When he shakes the palm tree fruits fall. Even Youtube is a tree and people with TAQWA who listen to u will filter Promised Messiah's message & fall into his lap. This palm tree blooms some will be fruit some fodder. Regretfully (for u) you are a great fodder.
As per Holy Prophet (PBUH) prophecy Promised Messiah (AS) bought the opium from Suraiyya. This makes us hang our heart in Mecca and live in the solace of original Islam. The world looks at our Islam with due respect. You bask in tarnished Islam devoid of TAQWA of Lal Masjid, Terrorism, Bloodbath, Concoctions & Biddats Your Islam is nothing but disgrace. \Your morality as so stooped that u accept Islam as an orphan that will not be revived. Why u avoid answering me on the death of Jesus not HA HA
When you can write well-formed English sentences that don't sound like they were constructed in an opium den where you lay devoid of any sense at all, I will be happy to engage. In the meantime, keep taking the medication! Anyone who equates all Islam with terrorism deserves contempt for them and their religion. To hell with Mirza and Qadianism.
YOUTUBE how can shahidkamal answer me even b4 my message is posted? at this time Shahidkemal's message "When you can write...." is 7 minutes agi whereas I posted some 10 minutes earlier? All my response are genteel no swearing nothing I am surprised most of my messages are not on the board. Pls check. If u read all my messages u may give me carte blanche
It's not me & U it's all the people reading the board. I have a serious qualm that your answer can be viewed even b4 mine is printed. NOT ON! U should not respond b4 mine is printed. Basic etiquette. However it may be too much to expect decency from a person who thrives on littany and I request youtube to correct the anamoly
To hell with terrorists, Lal Masjid and the like. Come hither for the original Islam that Promised Messiah has so meticously pulled back from Suraiyya.
Shahid Kamal coz u do not walk a straight line its likely u r tampering with youtube? Where have all my messages vanished? why u answer hours b4 my message is even posted. u r pefectly capable of foul play as youtube cannot b so inefficient
Do not reply b4 my letter is posted. Don't u have basic manners? Lal Masjid is a tarnishment of Islam & I replied in your language which was my mistake. I apologise. JihadPenn is a God given name that came to me. It is designed to debate Christians, InshaAllah. Do not respond unless mine is posted. Basic courticy.
Human being? Yes. True Muslim? No. "Love for all, hatred for none?" don't make me laugh!!!! This is one of the emptiest and most false of all cult slogans.
I don't know what you keep jabbering on about. Stop speaking in that stupid indian accent. What do you care if they want to believe that stuff let them. It's not your job to preach to them.
and bears enmity towards thee after having recognized thee is condemned to hell" [Tadhkira, p.207]
So acordng to de above revelation of Mirza Sahib, Brother Shahid and I are perfectly fitting this criterion - so wud u hav da courage 2agree with ur prophet and declare dat Brother Sahid n I are definitely condemned to hell cuz we oppose Mirza even tho we knw about his claim?
God is the judge! If u are a case of sealed heart then according to Quran u r destined to hell. If u r misguided then your opposition is a virtue. In such a case Insha Allah u will end up obeying the Holy Prophet PBUH and convey his salam to the Promised M<essiah (AS). We will envy your tears then 'amen'
@husain87: let me help u understnd somethng my frend; i wish Mirza Sahib wer alive so u cud advise him dat "da meaning of religion is not to prove who is wrong and right" cuz he has condemned his opponents to da hell. Oh yah, I knw u think dats not wot he said and dat i have not understood his writng but let me put it 2u and then in da light of ur previous post - plz justify Mirza Sahib:
Well a common fact: There are infinite ways to look at an object. Somethings may b wrong to your eye for others it may be right. The meaning of religion is not to prove who is wrong and right. Religion is a tool to understand what life requires. Belief in One God.Belief in Prophets , honesty and etc..You had yoiur reasons to leave dosnt mean you start to ridicule others belief.If we are wrong.Allah will make our way out.
No, what you are saying is your opinion it is not a fact.
The fact is that truth is not a negotiable. Truth is absolute. You should study more about the "religion" you believe in before wading into moral relativism my friend!
It will be very nice and humanly of you if you stop reffering Mirza Sahib as a lier or his lies. Why can't you just say you disapprove of his beliefs?
Muslims must tell the truth, even against their families. Mirza did lie. That is a fact. He lied about being a prophet. He lied about receiving revelation from God. He lied about his prophecy. So I must tell the truth. If he was truthful, why would I have left? You really must read more about him!
Mirza's revelation? am sorry being an ahamdi i dnt really know what your talking about or reffering too.May be you know more about Ahamdyat than i do.
You are such a loser, the way you interpret stuff, like the story about the date tree, he means its pain of the woman? You are so ignorant, you take tiny bits that you don't understand and twist it into something completely different. If you were an outsider of islam and hated the religion, you would do the same things you did here with the quran.
nalilo92 7 months ago
this bloke really upsetting me I just cant ignore this sorry Im very bitter about this
Springamatul 11 months ago
@Springamatul Is that a threat?
shahidkamal 10 months ago
@shahidkamal no it was a mistake sorry just ignore what I said. Please no more said.
Springamatul 10 months ago
this bloke really upsetting the community I just cant ignore this sorry Im very bitter about this
Springamatul 11 months ago
your awsome brother
shahidur1992 11 months ago
@thetruth3891 jazakallah khayran - we have made an awareness campaign and we have been working very hard in this field for many years. visit us at thecult(dot)info and see the blog and forum. We do talks at masaajid, on TV and radio etc.
shahidkamal 1 year ago
4:40 lolzz We Can What We Will Do hahahaa
TheKhalidBinWaleed 1 year ago
May Allah bless you brother Shahid
mrakq4m 1 year ago
May ALLAH show to right path to AHMEDIA community
mrakq4m 1 year ago
brother good word..i had a argument with a qadiani few months bak but it did'nt work cuz he was nt ready to accept anything even if i provided him the proofs of his falsehood.i mentioned so many lies and contradictions in mirza's books and asked him to check them but he simply refused and said u r lieng..i hv nevr come across a single qadiani who can give clear answeres of simplest questions.
may ALLAH show them the right path..ameen
emmindfreak 1 year ago
may Allah give hadayat to all qadianis . shahid you are doing a great job
waseemqareem 1 year ago
Good acting & laughing spiritual blnid > Dr.Javed Iqbal S/O Allama Iqbal said that my father was reciting Quran my grand father came said to father,
Iqbal read Quran in this way that it reveling on you.
People like U & blind mullah will laugh as U R laughing but in life hereafter U will one of the most weeping one..
Keep It Up
IJKBaluch 1 year ago
@IJKBaluch Vee can vat vee vill do LOL
SugerBoyMo 3 months ago
LOL thats funny ''WE CAN WHAT WE WILL DO'' and that was his God the majestic English man coz thats where he got his fake revelation from
IslamRulesTheWorld1 1 year ago
lanatallahe alalkazibeen.
Allah se daro.
ahmadi1987 1 year ago
@ontheball247 Stop spamming. Be patient. Your comment on the correct post got approved. And you're writing anti-Islamic garbage. Stop committing shirk before it's too late.
shahidkamal 1 year ago
The Arabic of the Qur'an is full of solecisms. You don't find them ridiculous, because they have acquired the patina of ages.
BesACB 1 year ago
JazakAllah brother.. i think your doing a great job exposing these outrageous lies of a delusional man.
ju9yd 1 year ago
AOa.Allah isnt obliged to follow the rules of grammer made by man.He has provided man with ability to communicate.When ever He reveals anything to His loved ones He knows better what He reveals.Whereas revelation of chapters of the Holy Quran are concerned we have many example in the history of Islam that God revealed the Chapters to His beloved ones like In Tazkira tul Aulia we found that Abdullah Ghaznavi a famous saint said that complete Holy Quran revealed to him.
wasilmoon 2 years ago
well done brother, everytime i see these followers of ahmadiaya in cold weather comming early in the morning to their mosque, i feel pity for them as they are torturing their bodies and soul for false prohpet who died while shitting in the dirty place.
sweetconcessions1 2 years ago
salam to brother shahid kamal i just happend to flick thru some anti ahmadiya sites and i came across ur videos but boy did u make me laugh ''vee can wat we will do'' hhaahhhahaah lol i mean seriuosly do the qadianis not study mirzas wrtings it seems they follow a flind faith i guess thats what u call a cult iam so glad brother shahid has left this cult and joined the ummah of RASULALLAH [SAW] wassalam
82shahin 2 years ago
ALLAH AZZAWAJAL
bless u
i like this
and your website too
muneebiv 2 years ago
hahaahah lol "we can what we will do"
i think mirza wanted to say "we can do everything" but he made blunder because of his lack in english language skills.
khanpreston1 2 years ago
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khanpreston1 2 years ago
That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them [or it appeared so unto them], and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not: Nay, Allah raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise.
—Qur'an, [Qur'an 4:157]
So Jesus was raised up, this is clear
TheMrpalid 2 years ago
lolzzzzzz....We can what we will do!!!! :D :D
what a dope! and how misguided r mirza's followers
farhane398 2 years ago
TRUE, MIRZA IS THE BIGGEST LIAR
rizzi2007 2 years ago 3
In the holy Quran Allah Subhaanahu waa ta'alaa says
yaa hasratan Alal iBaad, maa yaatihim rasulan ilaa kaanuu bihee yastahzioon"
Alas for the men whenever we send a messenger people tened to lagh at him"
It has been once again Majestically proven true by your meaningless immature and mocking laugh
May Allah have mercy on you.Amen
atmasood 2 years ago 3
Allah didn't inspire Mirza Ghulam, Yalash did.
shahidkamal 2 years ago
lol
khanpreston1 2 years ago
The mahdi is NO messenger.
Prophet HIMSELF said: There will be no messenger after me.
so the mahdi is an IMAM.
mirza placed the rank of mahdi too high.. he overdid man. he even dared to say he was bigger than 'Isa s.a.w.!
and then again you believe such a sinner?
we call that kufar.
Pua8 2 years ago
Yes and Mirza claimed himself that he is a prophet! Allah forgive me!
EbeerIglesias 2 years ago
@atmasood -->Brother masood....no one is laughing at a Messenger...Mirza Ghulam is not the promished Messaih..he cannot be the Messaih..you just read at his books..full of deception falshood bad language..wake up brother Qadiyanism was created by The British to control and divide the Muslim Ummah.. Mirza was a Aleem no doubt in that..he knew stuff but my dear brother Shaitan also has full knowledge but he is still astray and indeed he has mislead you all via Qadianism.wake up n seek the truth!!
thetruth3891 1 year ago
@atmasood your standard, than you to are a prophet (rather false prophet) coz i'm laughing at u right now giving these comments. O the deviant one may Allah give you Hidaya and if you r not able for that, may Allah curse you
sweetfrndzzz 11 months ago
@atmasood Oh the deviant one listen carefully ( i'm trying to make u listen & understand even i know its useless), Allah says they cann't listen nor they see even if they have ears and eyes ( about people like you ), you have such a narrow minded approach about Quaranic verses that to defend you and someone wrong to prove him right. Let me Finish, The point you mentioned people laugh on prophets, O deviant one ponder! this doesn't mean if we laugh one anyone he is a messenger. If this
sweetfrndzzz 11 months ago
@atmasood thats y he is a muslim.hey i have a question where did isa as die.
monumonu2007 9 months ago
@atmasood Can we apply the same verse on Musailma kazzab's claim to prophethood?
Pleeezing 4 months ago
to Stand Against Fucking Ahmdiyaat Community....
jojon96 2 years ago 3
Mirza Ghulam Ahmd Qadiani kisi Super Flop GASHOTD MAA ka bacha tha....pata nai kis GASTI ki GAAAAAND se niklaa hua Keeda mADRCHOD.....AUR US K MAANE wale us se bhi bade Harami ki nasal hain.........MIRZA TAHIR & MIRZA MASROOR in sab ki Betiyon ki CHOOOT mai LULLLLLLLLA.........Bhosdi k. @These Mother Fuckers are spoiling all da Muslims in da World....& tht is UN-Acceptable...Islam is Protected frm All da Religion but not from AHMDIYAAT....so I request my All da Muslim Brothers & Sisterers,
jojon96 2 years ago
It seemed to me that the "Majesctic English-man" is his GOD! I believe he (MIrza Ghulam) was a paid servant of the british empire and was part of the empire's grand scheme to divide and weaken the ummah. This guy is in the same league as Sharif Hussein & Abdul Aziz Saud, save the other two did not claim prophethood.
fawzbani 2 years ago
shahid man great job ... you have such a laid back attitude , so softly spoken words ... but your words do come across ... why dont you quote from the real roohani khazayain ... these books are still better crafted to cast off doubts ... but roohani was the main item ... its full of shit ....
btw great work ... i can see u hate dem ...coz u wasted alot of ur life in it ... but i m glad that now that u see the light ... u work for the light ...
may Allah accepts ... n talk abt ur journey
nabeelsher 2 years ago
jazakallah khayr
shahidkamal 2 years ago
in islam jihad is a obligation when another country occupy your land,,,when british took india ,,and that time india and pakistan are one country,,,so muslim declare jihad against british ,,,this man amadiya he was a spy with british,he got million of dollar so he can tell muslims that jihad against british is false ,,but muslims didnt listen to him,,and the muslims who kick out british from india,,,,so this men keep telling the 3 world that ( jihad) fight for your land is forbidden in islam,,
adeel37x 2 years ago
Mirza Gulam Qadeyani was a fucking KIZAB,he was a LANTI,HE was murdud & Murtud,All the Qadeyanis who belive the Mirza Kizab they r Kafir & Murtud.He was not Imam Mehdi,yeh kesa Imam mehdi hey ju k kuch nahi kar saka islam k ley bulky Muslamano k nam par daba hey,or kabi Mahdi or kabi Mohammad s.a.w SAni "nauz billlh"apny aap ku kehlata hey?Mirza Qadeyani was a fucking Kizab our Shit mouth.Allah Es Mirza Qadeyani Fitna say hum sab ku mahfouz rakhy ,aamin
KizabMirza 2 years ago
brother where do they get the money from to build the big mosques and TV stations??? they are a bunch of joke with a baseless faith.
abseiduk 2 years ago
They get money from Anti Islaamic organisations. If these people were Muslims, What are they doing Serving In The Israeli Army ?
ShaitanIZBack 2 years ago
The former is likely, but they don't have anybody serving in the Israeli army. Having said that, they did invite the war criminal Shimon Peres as an "honoured guest" to their "iftar" last year....
shahidkamal 2 years ago
In the mind of the Blind, The light of the Moon dosen't exist!
There are more Qadianis serving in the Israeli Goverment then there are in Pakistani goverment... That is a fact.... All you need to do is look in to who is running Israel..... It was the Jews who made this Trojan Horse (Qadianism)... There are Qadiani Soldiers who were fighting the Arabs, Along side the Jews... You Don't beleive ?.... Ask Any Qadiani, They will tell you the love for jews!
ShaitanIZBack 2 years ago
Brother you are confusing a number of issues here. I have studied this extensively. (I hope you realise that I am the person who made the video you're commenting on...) - Muslims should always stick to the evidence and the truth. Read Bashir Ahmed's book on British and Jewish association with the Qadianis. (I have already confirmed in my comment above that they prefer Jews to Muslims as is further evidenced by any "inter-faith" conference they hold)
shahidkamal 2 years ago
@ShaitanIZBack , Yes , we Ahmadies have love for the jews, as well as all the mankind whatever thier believe, religion, or culture. just like our beloved Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) used to do, he use to meet and greet any one and every one, there were several occasions when he had lunch/dinner with Non muslims, including jews. this is how he converted the most of the arabs. and not by the sword. this is the path of Muhammad(PBUH) , which we love to follow
patanahin786 1 year ago
@ShaitanIZBack whereas serving in Israeli govt or army is concern, I dont know who is your inside informer, coz i dont know a thing about it, and I,m a Proud Ahmadi. I wonder if your allegations are correct then how and why Israeli govt /Army forgot to invite me to serve for them? but again this is not true and just a bunch of lies , which your so called mullah's have spreaded to create hatred towards ahmadi's. nothing true in it. :)
patanahin786 1 year ago
Lant hu Mirza Kizab par,us k manny waloun par,Mirza was a shit person but mirzai called him ...Nabi?kon sa nabi?us ku nabi sabat karny k lay Quran e pak ki aayat ku chang karny ki koshesh ki jate hey.nauz billah,us jesy paled insan par tu thukna b nahi chahy tum Mirzai Kasedy parte hu?Islam nam hey Mohammad S.A.W k Den ka,tum log den e islam say mazak karte hu?Mohammad S.A.W ka nam or Den e islam ku ley kar Mirza k pechy chalte hu?Yeh kesa islam hey Mirzayio?Nabi Karim S.A.W is last Nabi
KizabMirza 3 years ago
u look great while laughing:)
nice job brother...keep it up...i am very happy to see your channel after vwatching AK Sheikh videos...you guys are doing great job...keep it Up
har koi Muntazir teri yalghar ka
alisweet85 3 years ago
Salam.... Braaaaaaaaaaaaaavo shahid brov... keep ur gud work up... and tell the ppl about dis BLOOOODY cunt.... lolz.. sowi for usin dese words.. ba u knw being a muslim it jus commin in mind while listened his Bull shit.. .. weldone again..
azizshah575 3 years ago
why u reading this in a funny accent mr kamal u should not do that i do not think that u will be able to laugh in some time becuz u are really calling for allahs punishmnet hope u will change i can just pray for u may allah have mercy on u
shereleicester 3 years ago
I THANK ALLAH, for not creating me as a woman and for creating me as a muslim who believes till he will die that There is NO ALLAH than the one, the only. And I thank ALLAH for not creating me in a womb of Ahmedi woman. O Allah, i just cant thank you enuff. Thanks to you for blessing me a home where we all believe that Mohammand SLAWAW is the LAST prophet of ALLAH. There shall be no one after him and Eesa Ibn Maryam WILL be brought back to start the process of Qayamat. I Believe in you ALLAH
lemmecna 3 years ago
jazak Allah khair
layziethabone 3 years ago
of course this is the state of non-Ahmadi badboodar mullahs now., the whole world looks with utter shock and horror the primitive barbaric "achievements" ..latest in Islamabad..of these ghaleez creatures and look what they are busy doing....pronouncing others as non-Muslims and becomeing judges of Islam! yah world News is right - u are terrorists and the bane of this world - and denizens of Hell too - killers of innocent and priests of hatred....jaahil ghaleez cave-dwelling illiterate junglio.
uzzietruth 3 years ago
toh tu kya hai? You belive in one piece of shit drug addict mirza as being a prophet?
guess what, FUCK YOU and fuck your mirza twice, if he was alive i'd kill him in such a way that no ones else would ever do such blasphemy against Islam. Islam has clearly taught MUSLIMS to differentiate between kaafirs and muslims.... understand?
NO ONE CALLS YOU FAGGOT ASS AHAMDI KAAFIRS, WITHOUT PROOF,
nuff said
basit124 3 years ago
Shahid Bhai may Allah give you a long and healthy life. You should keep fighting this cult and we will try our level best to help you.
TAKBEER,
ALLAH-O-AKBAR
sarfrazchughtai 3 years ago
very good work, keep it up. ALLAH will reward you for your work. I request to all Ahmadi brothers ans sisters please study the Quran, Hadith and then the books of teachings of Mirza Ghulam Ahmed and then ask urself "If Mirza's books and teachings are according to QURAN and HADITH or not."Then choose a right path for yourself and for your future generations.Please don't follow any one with close eyes. Please study his teachings and then use your mind.Believe me you will not loose any thing.
zakiathar123 3 years ago 3
It's not just someone makhawaja, it's lots of Ahmadis used disgusting language and even threatened my kids. Please don't misunderstand, I'm not mocking your English, you write English better than I speak Urdu or Punjabi.
I don't have to prove Mirza Sahib's revelation is fake - it speaks for itself.
I'm happy to talk with you too, you seem like a decent person. As for the tablahs, or any drums, they are permitted in all schools of thought.
shahidkamal 3 years ago
I'm sorry tt someone hs used vulgar language at u.U hv right to make fun of my english but u still cann't prove tt Mirza sb's revelation is fake.Hazrat Messih Maud hv never claimed tt his revelation superceede (maazullah)Quranic verses.Secondly,Quranic verses hv been revealed to many Aulia Allah before Messih Maud,what irony hv u found in these verses?I am ready to communicate with U if u r ready bro.And finally please off the sound of Tablah,if ur maulvis hear they might declare u kafir too.
makhawaja 3 years ago
None of your stupid comments have been blocked, they have passed through quickly. What on earth is your point? If you can't write English properly (and that's fine, I'm not mocking you) then how can you understand how stupid "We can what we will do" sounds to anyone who knows any English?
Comments are on approval because some of your cohorts use such vulgar language, that I would rather my children did not read how you people abuse me. Understand?
shahidkamal 3 years ago
If u r too bold to refute Ahmadiyya with ur ironic language then y u r putting our comments for the approval?Put them in the view of the public and they will know who is using decent language and who is using the language of his forefathers who used to adopt every cheap tactics to hurt and harm Ahmadis in all over the world,especially in so called ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF PAKISTAN.
makhawaja 3 years ago
How dare you compare the Kalam of Allah (SWT) with the rubbish of Mirza?
"We can what we will do" - you've gotta be kidding me!
shahidkamal 3 years ago
you are not Ahmadi and u r kicked out of jamat i think so and jamat Ahmadia did not need human like (sorry to say you human),keep on doing this we will see what what you can do .
sherkhann100 3 years ago
AOA Bro,You hv adopted the way of non Muslims when they read the Quran and they find hundreds of fault,Arabic errors,un-civilized and extremist commands(maazullah).Bro,sorry to write tt I found u not different frm them.If u r frequent visitor of Youtube,then see by yourself and u will ashamed of your method of defying Mirza Ghulam Ahmad.Just as non-Muslim brothers are unable to see Quranic beauty so are u who couldn't perceive the comprehension of the revelations of the Promised Messiah.
makhawaja 3 years ago
Keep up the good work. Great Job
lvfsa 3 years ago
goooood
azzamody 3 years ago
Perish the falsehood
Very good brother ,come on solders of God destroy by wisdom and knowledge the false
azzamody 3 years ago
i enjoy your work i have a mirzi friend who asked me if i considered her a Muslim sister i replied no i see u as a friend who is ahmedi, was i wrong i told her about mirza predictions n how he kept changing them i.e wiv marrying his uncle daughter who if refused and married someone else would die in two years n her dad in 3 but it dnt happened she married someone else and they were married 40 yrs after mirza died, your work brother will inshallah help her see it in the modern way of thinking.
tuber153 3 years ago
shahid bro u r da man! Hope Mirza Ghulam's followes will wake up.
good work bro!
Beburg66 3 years ago 3
ur vids are out there, i just know when u are smiling at the beginning of the vid i'm in for a treat, a very laughable treat, WE CAN WHAT WE WILL DO.
imadhurata 3 years ago 3
jazakallah khayr to all my Muslim brothers and sisters for your kind words!
shahidkamal 3 years ago
Jazak Allah kul khair brother. Keep your cool and just expose this cult and insha Allah , Allah will reward u good .Oh I wish if Abu Baker or Omer (RAA)were around , but Allah chooses whomever he want to his path. Not even Muslim by birth is a savior as far as "inner bigger circle of Islam".No one is lucky without test.
binshamak 4 years ago 5
good stuff bro.you tell them.we are with you.keep it up!
1b2a3b4y 4 years ago 3
If you're as satisfied as you obviously claim to be after reverting to "Islam," your energy spent on creating these numerous videos to "mock" the Jam'at seems more than strange.
Inner peace shows. It hasn't in a single one of your videos.
And it would be nice if FOR ONCE, an opposition of Jam'at Ahmadiyya could produce an HONEST claim. Just once.
I pity you.
KtnClan 4 years ago
Oh dear. Once again, a presumptuous and hating Ahmadi, in the footsteps of MGA, casts judgement and tells lies.
An honest claim? I'm reading from your OWN books, clearly, with proof! So where is your response to the video?
If you're so full of inner peace and so able to tell what that means from a few minutes of a video, why are you here?
I pity you.
shahidkamal 4 years ago
u can't make sense of it, then how r u judging it. it is above ur comprehension. and ur laughing mockery proves that ur a moron.
bizznesss 4 years ago
You cannot construct an English sentence properly. You are like an infant mocking a Nobel Laureate.
My laughing proves that Mirza expected his followers to be morons.
shahidkamal 4 years ago
"Beware of too much laughter, for it deadens the mind and produces oblivion."--
The Talmud
Vashola100 2 years ago
@Vashola100 speak the truth.......the misna
monumonu2007 1 year ago
buhahahah hilarious, I literally laughed out loud
TorontoR 4 years ago 3
I believe the Quran is the perfect book and final teaching to the world. But I absolutely don't agree that the door of revelation is closed. Which Quranic verse(s) do you quote to support this claim of yours that the door of revelation is now closed?
mrleholloway 4 years ago
What on earth is the "door of revleation"????
shahidkamal 4 years ago
@mrleholloway its in surah ahzab.....pls read it.......ayat 40
monumonu2007 1 year ago
Mr Kamal I quote your previuos comment "I have made the assertion in the video". Now you are saying you have made no assertion. You are now side stepping the issue. We were talking about whether P.M.'s (as) revelation made sense or not. you repeatedly made the assertion that it didnt make sense to you as a sentence but without explaining HOW. Now you are totally shifting the argument to something different all together.
mrleholloway 4 years ago
Oh come on mrleholloway, you are just arguing for argument's sake!
You are Mirza's devotee. Please explain to me how "We can what we will do" makes sense. It's not my job to explain to you how it is nonsense. That's just absurd!
The map of nonsensical English is practically infinite!
BTW, is English your first and main language?
shahidkamal 4 years ago
...continued. Just because you say this statement is "nonsense" doesn't make it nonsense. It's for you to prove it wrong. If, as you say, it's so blatantly wrong, and so obviously incorrect, it should be very easy for you to explain HOW it is wrong. But you seem to be having great difficulty in explaining why you consider it to be nonsense.
mrleholloway 4 years ago
Mr Kamal. That is exactly what I have been trying to make you understand. You "have made an assertion" in the video, but without explaining how you have come to this assertion. You have given me the example of a court of law many times. Well you should know that innocent until proven guilty.
mrleholloway 4 years ago
mrleholloway - I did not make the assertion. Mirza made the assertion that he was getting revelations from God in multiple languages. Apart from everything else, this is against the Qur'an and even against Mirza's own words. Please, look at Mirza's revelations in English for yourself.
shahidkamal 4 years ago
ve can vhat ve vill doo!
classic
Philip0Stewart 4 years ago 3
Ur argument was that the english was bad. Now u seem to be admitting that the english is fine in terms of its grammar, but it just doesnt make sense? If you were smart you would be aware that the english spoken, and even written today has undergone a phenomenal process of evolution. You need to argue in the context of Elizabethan English, not postmodern English. That is where your daleel is flawed.
mrleholloway 4 years ago
I have made the assertion in the video. It's your job to prove that the sentence made sense at any point. We're going around in circles now, of course I understand the historical context, but the sentence is still nonsense. I am staggered that a person of your intelligence is defending it and arguing on side issues.
shahidkamal 4 years ago
mirza was speaking elizabethan english???
looooooooooool
thats so funny!!!
Philip0Stewart 4 years ago 5
Phillip0Stewart. No Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as) wasn't speaking, God was speaking.
mrleholloway 4 years ago
God completed His Revelation to mankind with the Qur'an. Surely you have read the Qur'an and can grasp this basic fact.
How can you attribute Punjablish to God?
shahidkamal 4 years ago
Mr Kamal. I have written many comments but they have yet to appear here. I repeat once again my question to you: Can you explain to me what is wrong with the phrase 'We Can What We Will Do'? I see nothing wrong with its grammar. But, of course, u consider me as a terrible judge. I therefore ask you to explain to me what is wrong with this revelation? Care to explain as you have failed to in your video?
mrleholloway 4 years ago
You're kidding right? You have sunk to a new nadir. I thought you were smart? Does the sentence make any sense to you? Why are you defending this? There are plenty of grammatically correct sentences in English that are complete nonsense. Please, it makes you look very silly to try and defend this, but if you want more proof, I will do one more video on this subject, insha'Allah.
shahidkamal 4 years ago
And anyhow Im not writing an acadmeic essay in these comments it doesnt matter to me if i spell correctly or not!! My PHD lecturers some of whom are world famous in their field have admitted to our class they are terrible at spelling. U actually sound like my friends they say 'ure doing english how come u cant spell that word, how come u dont know what this word means'. Geez!! I dont do English to improve my spelling!!
mrleholloway 4 years ago
It was your grammar that was awful and that was my predominant criticism - and still is. That makes you very poorly placed to judge what is grammatical and what is not. Your punctuation is also a joke and if you want to write PhD, the 'h' needs to be lower case. So your strawman on spelling is a daft diversion. Note that I criticised your English first and then made the secondary point on spelling.
Oh and it's not "Geez", it's "Jeez".
shahidkamal 4 years ago
There is actually absolutely nothing wrong with gramatically in any way whatseover with the phrase 'We Can What We Will Do'. It is aboslutely correct gramatically. Also Mr Shahid have u seen the videos made by 'AnAhmadi' who responded to these what r u views on that?
mrleholloway 4 years ago
Oh dear. You are joking, right?
shahidkamal 4 years ago
i have just read your message again and am staggered that somebody who claims to be doing high level English can produce such terrible English. Did you actually read your first sentence? Do you check your spelling?
As for "AnAhmadi" - none of these people have ever allowed my comments through once I start giving them reasonable answers. You will note however, that Qadianis are free to come here and abuse me and even threaten my life.
Do you see the difference?
shahidkamal 4 years ago
hmm seems like you think u r superior to everyone else.
who are you to mock people??
the path YOU walk on is of darkness
and i pray to Allah Almighty to lead you on the right path.
"love for all Hatred for none"
that is OUR (Ahmadi) motto..don't forget it!
it may come in handy.
VIMTOSPIKE 4 years ago
Try giving that motto to your Qadiani cohorts. Look at some of their comments and you will open your eyes if you really think you are "true Islam". In the meantime, do you have anything to say about the content of the video? Do you realise that Mirza was a charlatan for attributing such random rubbish to God Almighty? And that your belief in him renders YOU deluded?
shahidkamal 4 years ago
you are a top Man - god bless you -
IslamFourAll 4 years ago
I find it LAUGHABLE that you don't allow Ahmadis (the proper name) to make comments.
sairamaliha 4 years ago
Excuse me munafiq?
shahidkamal 4 years ago
To the poor soul who took too much time to create this low budget film.
What makes you the authority on religion. You have a rather arrogant approach.
"What do you propose I do, walk away when I know the truth and let some poor soul lose its way because they were deceived by a deviant, hypocritical, lying cult?"
sairamaliha 4 years ago
ve can vhat ve vill do
so says mirza the british chamchaa
looooooool
Philip0Stewart 4 years ago 2
The fact that you are making these videos opposing the beliefs of a harmless/non-violent sect of Islam speaks for itself. It shows you are threatened, but why so, if as you claim, "their claims are laughable." Ironic, no? Perhaps, then, their claims are NOT laughable and something that may in fact bear truth. Perhaps, you should spend more time propogating what you believe, instead of worrying about what others want to believe. Perhaps, this will construe you as less desperate and bitter.
fobinator2001 4 years ago
Please understanding something, Qadianis are not a sect of Islam. It is their duplicity that is the problem, not their creed.
If somebody were selling knock-offs of life-saving equipment and you knew about it, wouldn't you warn the potential buyers? Here we are talking about the soul, more important still!
What do you propose I do, walk away when I know the truth and let some poor soul lose its way because they were deceived by a deviant, hypocritical, lying cult? Tskk tssk.
shahidkamal 4 years ago
u argued that anyone who sees Ahmadiyyat 'for a couple of seconds' wouldnt take it seriously because its so glaringly laughable. Based on this logic the same people should only take a few seconds to see the fake equipment and u WUDNT need to warn them, beause it would be so obvious 2. U r making contradictory statements, saying on one hand people can c for themsevles in a few secs how wrong we are, and also saying it requires u to remind them owise they will not know. Which one is it?
mrleholloway 4 years ago
Would you make sense please? I don't understand your point at all. You sound very confused.
shahidkamal 4 years ago
can you please make a video on their number
they claim that they are more than 200 million
hodh3 4 years ago
Their claims are laughable. Nobody takes them seriously who has thought about it for more than a couple of seconds!
shahidkamal 4 years ago
their are all liars like mirza. it is the sunnah of their prophet mirza to speak lies. they are just 2 or 3 millions.
reply2qadanis 4 years ago
Subhanallah the prophet said he was the last what dont people get what your saying it true KEEP IT UP BRO!!!i follow muhammed he is the last no one is after he people open your eyes and read what the quran and the saying of the prophet says HE IS THE LAST CLOSED end seal PROPHET!!!
alwaysmuslim98 4 years ago
I bet you Dad is real proud of you.
May be he realizes his life's biggest mistake, to have you.
IamMuslimBro 4 years ago
He who believes in allah and his messenger(PBUH) should say what is good or hold his silence.
k0329212 4 years ago
(cont). However, i think that one of the things that attracts people to the fold of Ahmadiyyat is the interpretations of the Quran about the creation story i.e Was Adam and Eve the first and only people to create mankind; did the flood encompass the whole world or just part of Mesopotamia?; Did Prophet Isa (AS) Ascend to Heaven? Did Prophet Mohammad Ascend to heaven physically or spiritually? Do we look at things from a rational disposition or one that opposes God's natural laws.
vvega0101 4 years ago
Have you actually read that charlatan's trash? None of what you say has anything to do with Islam and everything to do with trying to bend your religion to please your Western masters. As for Mirza being rational? Are you really that ignorant? Have you read what he wrote? Ink drops falling from the sky? Magic incantations on dry chick peas? Now please, stop wasting my time and get back to the video. I've cut you far more slack than your qadiani brothers have already.
shahidkamal 4 years ago
If you are going to say that I am pleasing my Western Masters then it is as much YOU pleasing your Eastern Masters-Al Qaeda. So you be the judge!
I originally said that you will find in the Quran words as exactly or similarly revealed in earlier books. Does this mean that God did not reveal them to the Prophet Mohammad (SAW) or that he just plagiarized it from the earlier books? Heaven forbid!
vvega0101 4 years ago
vvega, thanks for revealing your true Islam-hating face. You've said your piece, now good bye!
shahidkamal 4 years ago
Hey talk about plagiarism. The Gilgamesh Epics and the Sumerian and Babylonian Genesis which are recognized as the oldest form of writings makes you wonder when you look at the creation and flood stories that are so similar to the ones that "later" appear in the Hebrew Bible and then "much later" in the Quran. Wow it seems that borrowed revelation seems to be a continuous pattern throughout religious history. What do you think?
vvega0101 4 years ago
Interesting theory, but with schoolboy errors really, deserving a longer treatise. 500 characters won't cut it. However, "borrowing" is too harsh to describe what you're referring to, and way to soft to describe the mistake-ridden plagiarism that Mirza was guilty of. Randomly quoting verses of the Qur'an and switching the personal pronoun so that it becomes nonsense is not "borrowing".
shahidkamal 4 years ago
"School boy errors"? I think not.Of course 500 chars does no justice, but its not a theory but a known fact. Being a Muslim does not make it a theory.The fact is that the Sumerian tablets do exist. You only have to reserach yourself like you are asking Ahmadi's to read all of the books of the PM which they should. (see next comment)
vvega0101 4 years ago
You can think that the earth is flat if you like, doesn't make it true.
shahidkamal 4 years ago
Shahid, did Jews not make similar charges against the Holy Prophet (SAW) of the claim that he used certain passages of the Bible that you now make against the PM?
Do you think then that Ahmadi's should declare themselves a different religion to Islam, much like what Christians are to the Jews? Then case solved right?
vvega0101 4 years ago
Yes, if Ahmadis declare themselves a separate religion, then that solves a lot of problems. Lots of prominent Ahmadis already did this, starting with Mirza's sons.
shahidkamal 4 years ago
But is it not possible to intepret the spreading of the message to the four corners of the Earth as meaning that God will protect those that spread it?
vvega0101 4 years ago
Almost. I thought of that, but the give away is the complete role-reversal. Mirza claims that God said "Thy Message". So no.
shahidkamal 4 years ago
great work bro. Mashallah. Keep doing what you're doing.
Radaration123 4 years ago
Salam Rushdi and Mirza Ahmed both the devil from India
jablauhad 4 years ago
You're right, but Mirza was far worse.
shahidkamal 4 years ago
Sir Satan Rushdie blasphemed the Holy Prophet. He is an unfortunate ignoble soul. The Promised Messiah's praise of Holy Prophets are unprecedented. No one in Ummat has so beutifully and comprehensively praised the Holy Prophet PBUH. It's great spritual pleasue to convey Holy Prophet PBUH's salam to the Promised Messiah.
JihadPenn 4 years ago
jazkallah khayr bro ikram310 for your continued support.
shahidkamal 4 years ago
Promised Messiah's (AS) wisdom u cannot understand without TAQWA. When he shakes the palm tree fruits fall. Even Youtube is a tree and people with TAQWA who listen to u will filter Promised Messiah's message & fall into his lap. This palm tree blooms some will be fruit some fodder. Regretfully (for u) you are a great fodder.
JihadPenn 4 years ago
Wow! Sounds like you have ben having some of Mirza's opium remedies!
shahidkamal 4 years ago
As per Holy Prophet (PBUH) prophecy Promised Messiah (AS) bought the opium from Suraiyya. This makes us hang our heart in Mecca and live in the solace of original Islam. The world looks at our Islam with due respect. You bask in tarnished Islam devoid of TAQWA of Lal Masjid, Terrorism, Bloodbath, Concoctions & Biddats Your Islam is nothing but disgrace. \Your morality as so stooped that u accept Islam as an orphan that will not be revived. Why u avoid answering me on the death of Jesus not HA HA
JihadPenn 4 years ago
When you can write well-formed English sentences that don't sound like they were constructed in an opium den where you lay devoid of any sense at all, I will be happy to engage. In the meantime, keep taking the medication! Anyone who equates all Islam with terrorism deserves contempt for them and their religion. To hell with Mirza and Qadianism.
shahidkamal 4 years ago
YOUTUBE how can shahidkamal answer me even b4 my message is posted? at this time Shahidkemal's message "When you can write...." is 7 minutes agi whereas I posted some 10 minutes earlier? All my response are genteel no swearing nothing I am surprised most of my messages are not on the board. Pls check. If u read all my messages u may give me carte blanche
JihadPenn 4 years ago
Your messages go through the approvals system, mine do not. Thus the delay.
shahidkamal 4 years ago
It's not me & U it's all the people reading the board. I have a serious qualm that your answer can be viewed even b4 mine is printed. NOT ON! U should not respond b4 mine is printed. Basic etiquette. However it may be too much to expect decency from a person who thrives on littany and I request youtube to correct the anamoly
JihadPenn 4 years ago
To hell with terrorists, Lal Masjid and the like. Come hither for the original Islam that Promised Messiah has so meticously pulled back from Suraiyya.
Shahid Kamal coz u do not walk a straight line its likely u r tampering with youtube? Where have all my messages vanished? why u answer hours b4 my message is even posted. u r pefectly capable of foul play as youtube cannot b so inefficient
JihadPenn 4 years ago
I will show you a video later of what I am doing, to shame you into some humility, and by the way, "pen" has one letter in it.
You are saying to hell with a mosque? Are you so full of hatred?
shahidkamal 4 years ago
Do not reply b4 my letter is posted. Don't u have basic manners? Lal Masjid is a tarnishment of Islam & I replied in your language which was my mistake. I apologise. JihadPenn is a God given name that came to me. It is designed to debate Christians, InshaAllah. Do not respond unless mine is posted. Basic courticy.
JihadPenn 4 years ago
May Allah bless you brother keep it up Allah will hlep you.
unicarafath 4 years ago
As an Ahmaddy( a true muslim and a human being):
"LOVE FOR ALL - HATRED FOR NONE "
mcji5ab3 4 years ago
Human being? Yes. True Muslim? No. "Love for all, hatred for none?" don't make me laugh!!!! This is one of the emptiest and most false of all cult slogans.
shahidkamal 4 years ago
can you explain why english grammer is not correct, what is meant by "We can what we will do"
asimsattar5 4 years ago
"can you explain why english grammer is not correct" (sic)
hahahaha - this is a joke, right?
shahidkamal 4 years ago
I don't know what you keep jabbering on about. Stop speaking in that stupid indian accent. What do you care if they want to believe that stuff let them. It's not your job to preach to them.
fazman30 4 years ago
huh?
shahidkamal 4 years ago
great bro keep up the good work
xiaahmad 4 years ago
This is the refrence 4u husain87:
"God has informed me (Urdu): Whoever opposes thee
and bears enmity towards thee after having recognized thee is condemned to hell" [Tadhkira, p.207]
So acordng to de above revelation of Mirza Sahib, Brother Shahid and I are perfectly fitting this criterion - so wud u hav da courage 2agree with ur prophet and declare dat Brother Sahid n I are definitely condemned to hell cuz we oppose Mirza even tho we knw about his claim?
h4tabs 4 years ago
God is the judge! If u are a case of sealed heart then according to Quran u r destined to hell. If u r misguided then your opposition is a virtue. In such a case Insha Allah u will end up obeying the Holy Prophet PBUH and convey his salam to the Promised M<essiah (AS). We will envy your tears then 'amen'
JihadPenn 4 years ago
No, you are being the judge according to your warped beliefs!
shahidkamal 4 years ago
@husain87: let me help u understnd somethng my frend; i wish Mirza Sahib wer alive so u cud advise him dat "da meaning of religion is not to prove who is wrong and right" cuz he has condemned his opponents to da hell. Oh yah, I knw u think dats not wot he said and dat i have not understood his writng but let me put it 2u and then in da light of ur previous post - plz justify Mirza Sahib:
h4tabs 4 years ago
Well a common fact: There are infinite ways to look at an object. Somethings may b wrong to your eye for others it may be right. The meaning of religion is not to prove who is wrong and right. Religion is a tool to understand what life requires. Belief in One God.Belief in Prophets , honesty and etc..You had yoiur reasons to leave dosnt mean you start to ridicule others belief.If we are wrong.Allah will make our way out.
husain87 4 years ago
No, what you are saying is your opinion it is not a fact.
The fact is that truth is not a negotiable. Truth is absolute. You should study more about the "religion" you believe in before wading into moral relativism my friend!
shahidkamal 4 years ago
It will be very nice and humanly of you if you stop reffering Mirza Sahib as a lier or his lies. Why can't you just say you disapprove of his beliefs?
husain87 4 years ago
Muslims must tell the truth, even against their families. Mirza did lie. That is a fact. He lied about being a prophet. He lied about receiving revelation from God. He lied about his prophecy. So I must tell the truth. If he was truthful, why would I have left? You really must read more about him!
shahidkamal 4 years ago
Mirza's revelation? am sorry being an ahamdi i dnt really know what your talking about or reffering too.May be you know more about Ahamdyat than i do.
husain87 4 years ago