one thing to remember about mre's is they are about 1400 cal and if your in a survial situation you will burn more than that in a day so your going to need at least 2 per day.
Good info, im considering the Kelty Courser, and checkin out some gear an pawing through options. I prefer to call it a F.E.A.R. bag. Frack Everything And Run:)
hi that is what i do, look in the mirror and look how nice i look with my gear :) nha im just kidding nice video, almost finished with the bugout bags u made. Nice :)
hey i was wondering if 89.99 for 12 MREs was a good deal its the cheapist ive found so far and if not please let me know a good site to buy for cheaper thanks
@twynne96 best bet is to shop around. MRE's are great but there are better options for backpacking. Cost vs weight vs bulk should be the major concerns with food thats going into your kit. MRE's work great, but need to stripped down to their single parts to save weight. 5 days of mre entree's weighs a good amount vs dried foods, let alone cost.
People be advised you will run out of supplies like during Katrina and then the looting with take place so you're going to have to learn how to fish and hunt no one thought Haiti and Chile would be hit this hard and almost Hawaii (watch the movie 2012 or The Day After Tomorrow) so like he said food shelter and water should be your focal point everything else will take care of itself. nice video.
food,shelter. you can pack that weight or let nature provide. i am sipping a nice pine needle tea right now and i'm home. why? loaded with vitamin c,a and minerals and it tastes good. i suggest people buy this book: petersons edible wild plants. lots of good stuff and your pack is good for as long as you have to stay. debris huts; no weight to carry,warm. the land provides. all i carry is warm cloths, compass, knives, hatchet, firesteels, lighters, 2 small pots, snarewire, 1 bottle. <12 lbs.
again this series was not about WHAT to pack, but the core basic needs of a BOB. There is a separate series of films that show's what "can" be packed in a BOB. Like i have said before redundancy is key. Watching those other films isn't hard to do either,,,dude....
No one forgot it. This series was about the packs and the core basic items that a person needs. I didnt spend 30 min's about what knife, what filter,what tent, what spork, what mess kit or the 100's of other items that we "need" per say in our Bug Out Bags. I am also pretty sure i hit on gear redundancy issues in both this series and the "packing your BOB" series!
well ya but fire is an essential to survival, it cooks your food, it keeps animals away, it signals, it keeps you warm, it gives you light, and many more things so i believe it is a core basic item
We can sub class and split hairs to fit your opinion all day! Maybe we should say tools - i mean a knife can keep animals away, keep me fed,keep me sheltered.... Most folks have the sense to look at things at the most basic level and incorporate items(fire/tools/comms) into each basic core item class.
People that do not, tend to over pack and end up with a pack that they can not physically handle.
I supplement my BOB with a butt-pack that holds backup gear in case I have to ditch my pack...It holds a couple 1 qt canteens and a bunch of Katadyn water purification tabs in it, extra knife, stuff for primitive shelter and some extra food Two is one and one is none! You need to have backups of almost everything!!!
When I was in the light infantry,(82nd airborne) we lived out of medium alice packs for weeks at a time. Sometimes the honchos would forbid frames on an air drop so we'd make do. It's amazing what you can get used to. That being said I'd opt for the large alice with frame or a jumbo sized internal frame pack with lots of external tiedown points.
Just a warning about certain types of packaged food. Avoid high sodium foods. Especially packaged soup mixes, canned soup, salted peanuts, etc. I did a weekend BOB test, and I regretted my food choices. My system went into overdrive to get rid of all the excess salt, and I quickly (and I mean quickly) went through my water. It wasn't pleasant. Anyhow, just a warning to get low sodium foods. Instant rice, tuna, unsalted peanuts, low-salt or no-salt crackers are just a few things to start with.
It has a web strap that secures it to the frame on the back side. It will have some up and down movement and to solve this i just wrapped some foam pad and tape around the contact points to secure it. They can be upgraded to the molle 2 ruck kidney pads as well, i have yet to do this but plan to.
What did you call that first pack? Alice? I have one just like that full of Mountain House and I have been getting things to stuff into it for the last couple of weeks. Funny I just now came across this video series. Thanks. Need bladders now. I even have a video of my pack that I'll post LOL...
I find wool is excellent for most outings. I cycle a lot and wear it nearly daily in the cooler months and lightweight stuff in the warmer months. It doesn't stink, performs as well as synth. (in my opinion and uses) and usually is comparable in weight/bulk. Also for food items, I bring a mix of quinoa/red lentils/TVP for my main meals. Cooks in several minutes, but lots of calories/protein/etc. and keeps well. You can find quinoa soups that are pre-cooked in many health food stores.
great informative videos ! I bought a Alice Backpack from your videos so currently trying to stock it. Planning a day or 2 out to test it and practice
A Wilderness EMT told me they call synthetic longjohns(polypro, polyester fleece, etc.) "shrink wrap" because it doesn't just ignite and burn it tightens up on your bidy so that you can't get it off. So you have a 750 degree constrictor covering the majority of your body. to put it short, catch your sleeve on fire while cooking and you'll like die horribly. Wool is naturally sire retardant.
Most clothing will not ignite from a small spark, He has a point that most synthetics will burn better than cotton or wool. But it is not something to really worry about. IMHO. unless of course your fighting fires or inside a truck,airplane or other place that could prove dangerous if it exploded ;p
If synthetics were that dangerous we would hear about many fire related deaths in the natl parks from folks who have never camped before :)!
You're right about the spark. I was referring to open flame. You were also right that it takes a pretty significant accident to make it happen. However, I feel one going into the wild places of the world, and especially alone, needs to be very well versed in Murphy's Law. I should have said I was talking worst case scenario.
Have you tried making your own MRE's using the new handi-vac?? It's pretty cool. It comes with it's own bags, plus you can buy the gallon size separately... works great.
THRIVE foods for me are the best, no salt, or additives.
glynamus 2 weeks ago
one thing to remember about mre's is they are about 1400 cal and if your in a survial situation you will burn more than that in a day so your going to need at least 2 per day.
Surviveandthriveable 3 months ago
Thanks alot. Really appriciate the videos. very helpful
EagleARMZ 3 months ago
also love to keep extra clothes in a waterproof sack in case of blatter bursts or river crossing
utfanx2 4 months ago
gotta have a jar of peanut butter
utfanx2 4 months ago
Good info, im considering the Kelty Courser, and checkin out some gear an pawing through options. I prefer to call it a F.E.A.R. bag. Frack Everything And Run:)
KidwellClan 5 months ago
hi that is what i do, look in the mirror and look how nice i look with my gear :) nha im just kidding nice video, almost finished with the bugout bags u made. Nice :)
Norsegod127 8 months ago
if u dont have water, you shouldnt be eating anyways\
TheSurvivorjunkie 8 months ago
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA........................ bob :)
bobthehobo1000 10 months ago
alice pack is fancy! i'd pick it over the other 2 =p
TheXJthatCould 11 months ago
im gonnna have to find a way to fit mountain dew somewhere between water and food , cuz i will go insane without it
whit6r160 1 year ago
Thank you so much for this.
MontrealCity1 1 year ago
ever thought of a B.O.B. for a zombie outbreak scenario? maybe something you can sprint with?
thadrazdow 1 year ago 2
@thadrazdow yip. its all about the zombies....i keep a cane cutter on hand for them ;)
delta69alpha 1 year ago
"Pogey Bait"? Semper Fi Marine!
Nako521 1 year ago
@akman545 emergency essentials . Mixed lot of #10's. I dont get to chose what they ship the product in....
delta69alpha 1 year ago
Would you carry a fishing kit or telescopic fishing rod?
SensibleStan 1 year ago
@SensibleStan i have carried a small kit before, just carry what works in your area to cut down cost/weight. In my view a pole isnt needed.
delta69alpha 1 year ago
Should you keep a gas mask for worst case scenario?
xenomorph856 1 year ago
@xenomorph856
yes,
alwayz remeber the "worst case scenario"
will/can happen 1 way or another.
InVok3thaunknown 1 year ago
fuck the new world order
amazingaustin13 1 year ago
hey i was wondering if 89.99 for 12 MREs was a good deal its the cheapist ive found so far and if not please let me know a good site to buy for cheaper thanks
twynne96 1 year ago
@twynne96 best bet is to shop around. MRE's are great but there are better options for backpacking. Cost vs weight vs bulk should be the major concerns with food thats going into your kit. MRE's work great, but need to stripped down to their single parts to save weight. 5 days of mre entree's weighs a good amount vs dried foods, let alone cost.
delta69alpha 1 year ago
@delta69alpha thanks for the input i will try putting freeze dried food instead of MREs in my pack on my next hiking trip and see how it goes
twynne96 1 year ago
a case of 12 MREs can be morphed into 4or even 3 pouches by stipping and ditching.
0122358 1 year ago
also peanut butter and crackers are good they are high in callories cheap and compact if packed right
shrr1000 2 years ago
People be advised you will run out of supplies like during Katrina and then the looting with take place so you're going to have to learn how to fish and hunt no one thought Haiti and Chile would be hit this hard and almost Hawaii (watch the movie 2012 or The Day After Tomorrow) so like he said food shelter and water should be your focal point everything else will take care of itself. nice video.
afterthefox7 2 years ago
food,shelter. you can pack that weight or let nature provide. i am sipping a nice pine needle tea right now and i'm home. why? loaded with vitamin c,a and minerals and it tastes good. i suggest people buy this book: petersons edible wild plants. lots of good stuff and your pack is good for as long as you have to stay. debris huts; no weight to carry,warm. the land provides. all i carry is warm cloths, compass, knives, hatchet, firesteels, lighters, 2 small pots, snarewire, 1 bottle. <12 lbs.
Mrreverendjim 2 years ago
matches and trioxin not to hard to pack dude
doggtowncowboy 2 years ago
again this series was not about WHAT to pack, but the core basic needs of a BOB. There is a separate series of films that show's what "can" be packed in a BOB. Like i have said before redundancy is key. Watching those other films isn't hard to do either,,,dude....
D
delta69alpha 2 years ago
you forgot fire. not just for cooking but for survival
SoldierK4 2 years ago
No one forgot it. This series was about the packs and the core basic items that a person needs. I didnt spend 30 min's about what knife, what filter,what tent, what spork, what mess kit or the 100's of other items that we "need" per say in our Bug Out Bags. I am also pretty sure i hit on gear redundancy issues in both this series and the "packing your BOB" series!
delta69alpha 2 years ago
well ya but fire is an essential to survival, it cooks your food, it keeps animals away, it signals, it keeps you warm, it gives you light, and many more things so i believe it is a core basic item
SoldierK4 2 years ago
shelter- fire..food-fire..water-fire
We can sub class and split hairs to fit your opinion all day! Maybe we should say tools - i mean a knife can keep animals away, keep me fed,keep me sheltered.... Most folks have the sense to look at things at the most basic level and incorporate items(fire/tools/comms) into each basic core item class.
People that do not, tend to over pack and end up with a pack that they can not physically handle.
ymmv
delta69alpha 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
food = trail mix for three days.. DUH
HumanZoo22 2 years ago
I supplement my BOB with a butt-pack that holds backup gear in case I have to ditch my pack...It holds a couple 1 qt canteens and a bunch of Katadyn water purification tabs in it, extra knife, stuff for primitive shelter and some extra food Two is one and one is none! You need to have backups of almost everything!!!
rooftopeagle 2 years ago
What do you all think of the little single-shot drink mixes? There are some like gatorade that have body essentials.
bwindussa 2 years ago
I use the electrolyte mixes like that and ones by energ C or such in these kits.
delta69alpha 2 years ago
When I was in the light infantry,(82nd airborne) we lived out of medium alice packs for weeks at a time. Sometimes the honchos would forbid frames on an air drop so we'd make do. It's amazing what you can get used to. That being said I'd opt for the large alice with frame or a jumbo sized internal frame pack with lots of external tiedown points.
kman20022 2 years ago
dear lord.. the medium ALICE is a BITCH without the frame
TrollKing2009 2 years ago
whats your opinion on the alice pack ... "without" a frame?
59Gretsch 2 years ago
You can use it, but it would be seriously lacking in the comfort department.
delta69alpha 2 years ago
Could you post some of the websites for making your own light-weight gear that you mentioned in the video? thanks!
survivalfaith 2 years ago
Just a warning about certain types of packaged food. Avoid high sodium foods. Especially packaged soup mixes, canned soup, salted peanuts, etc. I did a weekend BOB test, and I regretted my food choices. My system went into overdrive to get rid of all the excess salt, and I quickly (and I mean quickly) went through my water. It wasn't pleasant. Anyhow, just a warning to get low sodium foods. Instant rice, tuna, unsalted peanuts, low-salt or no-salt crackers are just a few things to start with.
pdhmo 2 years ago 2
i pack rice, tuna, beef jerkey, and vitamins.
that get me for three days easy.
PSNTheMoleMan 2 years ago
Auqamira Make some good filters bouth military and civilien ones
petervagt 2 years ago
on my alice pack, the kidny pad moves all around when i am puting in on, i noticed you have yours secured! how do you do this!
stillrob420 2 years ago
It has a web strap that secures it to the frame on the back side. It will have some up and down movement and to solve this i just wrapped some foam pad and tape around the contact points to secure it. They can be upgraded to the molle 2 ruck kidney pads as well, i have yet to do this but plan to.
delta69alpha 2 years ago
i kinda get it, a pic would be be even better tho :) my BoB is coming along awesome!! i cant wait to bug out!!!
stillrob420 2 years ago
This Guy really knows what he's talking about!!! You can learn alot from this guy!!!! all you beginners, Pay close attention!!! Great Video!
SURVIVALIST101 2 years ago 2
I have duofold and under armour long underwear. probably will keep a pair of cotton underwear just in case it's warm weather when i need my bob.
Christopher711 2 years ago
What did you call that first pack? Alice? I have one just like that full of Mountain House and I have been getting things to stuff into it for the last couple of weeks. Funny I just now came across this video series. Thanks. Need bladders now. I even have a video of my pack that I'll post LOL...
mobiltec 3 years ago
I find wool is excellent for most outings. I cycle a lot and wear it nearly daily in the cooler months and lightweight stuff in the warmer months. It doesn't stink, performs as well as synth. (in my opinion and uses) and usually is comparable in weight/bulk. Also for food items, I bring a mix of quinoa/red lentils/TVP for my main meals. Cooks in several minutes, but lots of calories/protein/etc. and keeps well. You can find quinoa soups that are pre-cooked in many health food stores.
ubbaken 3 years ago
great informative videos ! I bought a Alice Backpack from your videos so currently trying to stock it. Planning a day or 2 out to test it and practice
Chaviva7 3 years ago
all my spare space is food. ether mre entrees or fruit bars
choopdewoot 3 years ago
i have two #10 size cans of chilli 60 days of food ...
gasdorf 3 years ago
in your pack?
delta69alpha 3 years ago
Good Stuff. Helping alot of people out here!
sootch00 3 years ago 9
A Wilderness EMT told me they call synthetic longjohns(polypro, polyester fleece, etc.) "shrink wrap" because it doesn't just ignite and burn it tightens up on your bidy so that you can't get it off. So you have a 750 degree constrictor covering the majority of your body. to put it short, catch your sleeve on fire while cooking and you'll like die horribly. Wool is naturally sire retardant.
hoosierarcher 3 years ago 6
Most clothing will not ignite from a small spark, He has a point that most synthetics will burn better than cotton or wool. But it is not something to really worry about. IMHO. unless of course your fighting fires or inside a truck,airplane or other place that could prove dangerous if it exploded ;p
If synthetics were that dangerous we would hear about many fire related deaths in the natl parks from folks who have never camped before :)!
delta69alpha 3 years ago
You're right about the spark. I was referring to open flame. You were also right that it takes a pretty significant accident to make it happen. However, I feel one going into the wild places of the world, and especially alone, needs to be very well versed in Murphy's Law. I should have said I was talking worst case scenario.
hoosierarcher 3 years ago 2
Thanks for the MRE info.
michaelispan 3 years ago 3
K.......I'll check it out..
Might not be for long term usage....but good for short term.
missydrms 3 years ago
Hey, really good info..
Have you tried making your own MRE's using the new handi-vac?? It's pretty cool. It comes with it's own bags, plus you can buy the gallon size separately... works great.
missydrms 3 years ago
only real concern would be longevity of the food. unless your talking non "cooking" food akak- dry goods.
delta69alpha 3 years ago
If you search for some videos by jossiah591 it shows you how badly they keep their seal.
BlackhillPunk 3 years ago
Can someone tell me what P.A.W stands for?
Hamish121212 3 years ago
post apocalyptic world(PAW) productions.
delta69alpha 3 years ago
Excellent advice
ryanjcus 3 years ago 2
why do you say you don't have an example of mountain house foods when there is a box of it right behind you? :P
Bulletproofshirts 3 years ago
Could be mountain house coffee?
ArmyRanger10 3 years ago
Impossible
Bulletproofshirts 3 years ago
cant fit #10 cans in a pack ;p
delta69alpha 3 years ago
Cant wait to see the next installments. Really good indepth look at the core components.
PB
BlackhillPunk 3 years ago 3
i actually perfer canfood because i can turn them into a pot or a pan to cook but that good also
redsnowsoldier 3 years ago
good video paw
vonhismean 3 years ago 3
Thanks for all the great info.
suprhandyman 3 years ago 3