Anyways, those Saudi "terrorists" were purchased by our government. Ironically, nearly all of the purported "terrorists" are still alive! There's much, much more. Bush, Cheney, and their goons were simulating the staged attack just days prior to 9/11/2001. No jet debris were discovered in western PA. The attack on the Pentagon, you ask? Every single solitary surveillance tape was confiscated by our government. Why? Because no plane crashed into the Pentagon; just another premeditated detonation.
Bro, 9/11/2001 was an inside job. I just thought you should know. The "Twin Towers" crumbled to the ground in a heap of dust & ash in the style of a planned demolition. Impossible, you say? Heresy, you think? Think again. After careful observation of the video footage, it's quite easy to deduce that at least 20 bombs were painstakingly situated and detonated. Go to Google Video and search "Zeitgeist movie" for a complete explanation. 9/11/2001 was an inside job. I just thought you should know.
In 1974 the US made a report for their dictator in office wiping off the map all Iranians opposing the US stealing oil profits and being Muslims. It said 20 years from then Iran would need to develop nuclear power to suffice the energetic demand, considering oil. Not 20, but 34 years later, with a doubled population you want to claim Iran doesnt need nuclear power? They built over a dozen hydroelectric plants in a desertic country to compensate, but sure, theyre still fine with just oil.
Who is saying that sighet04. Im saying the US already knew Iran would have needed to develop nuclear industry in 1994 in spite of oil reserves, and 14 years after that deadline was due, they now claim Iran doesnt need nuclear industry because they have oil. A joke.
We have allowed them nuclear enrichment, we just hope they don't change their plans and make that into a weapon. Have we bombed their nuclear factories?
They don't need nuclear power, their is plenty of oil. Sure, they can have it, but to say they need it is a bit far. The U.S. uses many times more power and we don't need it. I guess I don't get why you think they need nuclear power.
Why on earth would Iran want nukes for? To give the West an excuse to invade? To nuke millions of Palestinians in Israel? To contradict IAEA and NIE estimates which irrefutably prove Iran is not even looking for nukes? To put an end to their 400 years without ever invading a single country? To go against the 2 UN approved resolutions authored by them calling to wipe the world of WMD's?
Iran has been the most cooperative country, in which planet do you live? Their facilities have been inspected from top to bottom and the IAEA declares Iran as truthful. How many times have other countries allowed inspectors? If I inspect the US from top to bottom, their secret facilities, and dont find an alien, but Im still not 100% sure, will I ever stop saying there are aliens in the US? Thats twisted logics. Of course they will never be sure, just as they will never be sure God exists.
Top to bottom? Maybe you should take another look (or atleast a first one) at the IAEA's report. Many major countries (just not the U.S.) dismiss the IAEA report because the inspectors were given extremly limited viewing. This comes 6 years after the IAEA and U.N. have been given even more restrictions.
In 2005 Iran did give the IAEA a chance to test their nuclear development. IAEA found Iran was in the process of enriching nuclear power, they blamed it on faulty centrifuges, used by Pakistan, likely story.
I think you're misunderstanding me, I don't want to invade Iran, but I think any country trying to emerge with power can easily do it with nukes.
Not only the US didnt invade Saudi Arabia, but they actually made a juicy weapons deal with them (some 15 billion dollars in weapons by any chance?), and France has just made a new juicy nuclear deal with them. So what are the lessons for the terrorists: Kill thousands of innocents in a Western country, and get your country a weapons and nuclear deals. Nice lesson taught.
Iraq never attacked you either and never wanted war, so I certainly dont see your point. Iraq never even sheltered al-Qaeda, differently to Saudi Arabia which currently provides Jihadists in Iraq with weapons, and still what they get is a weapons deal and a nuclear deal. You have no idea how logical that sounds. Its amazing how you reward the country from which terrorism comes out.
I think you need to listen to Dick Cheney's, George Bushes and Donald Rumsfeld's speaches leading up to the invasion of Iraq - yes, they clearly stated that Iraq was involved in 9/11. Just do a Jon Stewart + Dick, Donald or George Youtube search and you can be entertained by your own denial. Mr. Stewart had a lot of fun with this - little did Comedy Central know that the sighet04s of this world are abundant and have selective listening.
9/11 had to do with Al-Qaeda, Al-Qaeda is based in Iraq. That's one reason to go.
Good thing you get your news from a liberal comedy show that on countless times takes things out of context or just makes them up. The closest tie they put on Iraq is to funding Al-Qaeda. No one says Hussein planned or sent people to manage 9/11. No one says he knowingly knew 9/11 would happen. The world is a better place without Hussein in power.
Al-Qaeda was (at the time of the invasion) based in Iraq? Wow, that's a strange reality, considering Saddam Hussein was a secularist Muslim and by this definition alone, Al-Qaeda would have had him on their death list. Just look up any CIA reports from the last 15 years and I think you'll find that you are misinformed. I was hoping Jon Stewart might make you laugh but obviously, seeing that you have a hard time with discerning information, you probably don't have a sense of humor.
Cause I don't watch Jon means I don't have a sense of humor..yup..dead on.. You know me so well!
I didn't mean based like it was the strong point, I meant they have bases/camps in Iraq. If Hussein was paying Al-Qaeda why would they kill him? If Hussein and Al-Qaeda can work together against the U.S. wouldn't they?...Oh no i'm sure Saddam loved the U.S. not allowing him to fly his planes or start his own nuclear reactors.
Which I disagree with. Sovereign Nation means Sovereign nation. We have NO RIGHT to make ANY demands on ANY nations Iraq Iran N Korea China. No right what so ever. What would our response be if China Made UN demands of the USA to disband all nuclear weapons and stop our war mongering? we would LAUGH at them just as iraq iran n korea should laugh at us.
"What would our response be if China Made UN demands of the USA to disband all nuclear weapons and stop our war mongering? we would LAUGH at them just as iraq iran n korea should laugh at us. "
We won our past wars, which gives us the right to tell them what to do.
What would be the incentive for winning a war if you win nothing? We let them keep their land, but we have power over them...Or we could take their land, and kill their people ..or they can listen to us...it's their choice.
Thats where your LACK of intelligence shines. WE NEVER have the right to make DEMANDS of another country NEVER. What we DO have is the CLOUT AND POWER to FORCE demands on other countries. Most definitely NOT the same thing. Remember the bill of rights is not a set of AMERICAN rights its a set of INTRINSIC HUMAN rights.
Why would there ever be an incentive to win a war?
Would the incentive be to ask countries to stop building nuclear bombs, but when they say "no" to our demands we just let them? Are you saying when certain terrorists kill our citizens in our country we should just say "oh well, we don't want to make them mad by going after them."?
The bill of rights is an American right, ask women in Iran how many human rights they have.
When you can segregate and DEFINE ... THAT GUY or THOSE GUYS right there. these coordinates. THERE the terrorists go get them. OK fine goto congress declare war on a KNOWN and KNOWABLE and MORE IMPORTANTLY DEFEATABLE!!!! ENEMY then fine goto war. Thats not what we have here. We have a war on an IDEA. you can NOT wage war on an IDEA with a standing army. Continued...
Continued... It requires a DIFFERENT WEAPON. that weapon is an educated and EMPOWERED citizenship. IE a STRONGER ideology. There is NO OTHER WAY to "WIN" against an ideology.
NO thats where your wrong. Those woman in IRAN have the SAME RIGHTS you and I have. What they also have is a society or dictatorship SUPPRESSING those rights. There is a difference. Your last part (the continued part) is 100% spot on. NO we should not interfere (UNLESS ASKED)
Unless asked? Were the Nazi's going to ask us to fight them?
We don't need to be asked, we should just look for more justifiable wars. ww2 was one of the few justified wars, we weren't asked but it was the right thing to do.
NO I mean if the VICTIM asks! SO if a country is attacked unprovoked and is innocent and they ASK THE USA for help THEN I am ok with us going to war (but again via congress and with a clear defined enemy and goal)
First what right do I have to ask another country to have nukes when I POSSES more nukes than all the other nations on earth combined? Enough to irradiate this entire planet oh about 10 times??? On top of that what makes you think WE HAVE any right to dictate terms to another country? They would say NO because its none of our damned business.
"First what right do I have to ask another country to have nukes.. "
WW1-WW2, we happened to be the winner both times, we make the terms. If other countries wanted a say in their future they should've jumped in and helped us.
We don't have a war on an idea, it's a war on people that want to cause havoc to society and anyone not Arab is wrong. I think we saw that with the Nazi's..
Oh really? I guess you missed WWII OH and I guess you missed this historical tidbit. HOW many nukes were EVER used in n act of violence (IE WAR etc..) on earth? Answer: 2 and what country used BOTH OF THEM. Answer US the USA. We are the ONLY country in ALL of history to use Nuclear Bombs in an act of aggression. PERIOD. NO iran would NOT use them in war. They are NOT stupid enough. They would likely be NUKED into a glass plate before there one nuked hit its target. and they know it.
If you're so sure they (Iran) aren't going to use the nukes, why do they want them? Arming a nation with nuclear weapons is a great way to destory your economy, why put your people in that situation for no reason..?
(ww2)We used our nukes in good way. In the long run we saved lives when we dropped those 2 bombs.
WHy do we want them? why does Russia use them? its like launching a Rocket into space. Your not super power till you have a nuclear capability. Its a status symbol. A sick one but it is what it is. SO AGAIN why do we have them? Were never gonna use them unless we keep getting psycho's like Bush in office? And I do not even think he is that nuts.
The difference is we don't have a history of using them, 60 years we have had nuclear wepons and used them once. We have asked Russia is disarm. When Iran gets a nuke it doesnt mean we will invade. We do have the right to ask them to disarm. When Iran says Israel should be wiped off the earth, why should we want them to have a nuke?
Correction Sighet04 the USA is the ONLY country in the known history of EARTH to have EVER used a Nuclear Weapon. THE ONLY ones. IF anything the rest of the world should be demanding WE disarm since WE are the only ones who have actually used them. Oddly I agree with there usage in WWII I think its the only reason we have not had WWIII with Nukes. but thats not the point now is it.
Your talking IF's how about FACTS. Hussein was a psychopathic Control Nut. He would NEVER work with someone else. Our Intelligence CONFIRMS this over and over again. We attacked for one reason. He was (key word was) a SOFT target and would be easy to con the american people into going along.
but thats why we went to war with iraq. HE FELT LIKE IT. It supported HIS agenda (NOT OURS) If I were president I would ELIMINATE our need for even 1% foreign oil in 3 years or less. Ready? #1 Eminent Domain and National Security to take the patent from chevron and put it in the public domain. #2 auto makers have 3 years to put EV's on the road enmass for under $25k do it for under $10k without sacrificing quality and your TAX FREE forever. DONE. in 3-5 years we would need ZERO foreign oil.
Oh and in case your wondering how we can live without that revenue from a few car companies. Exxon made 39.5BILLION is PROFIT. SO how much do you think we had to PAY them in order for them to END UP with 39.5BILLION in profit. Clue in here a FEW HUNDRED TIMES MORE if not THOUSANDS TIMES MORE than we make in taxes from a few auto makers.
You're not following a capitalist system, you're doing what Bush does and you're taking too much power. Let the market solve the problems. You can't truly believe if you force companies to run their business a certain way that they will be happy.
--Zero foreign oil, that's a bit too optimistic. How do our factories run without oil?
--We don't pay Exxon, we just don't tax them. I don't know why you took the conversation of Iraq/Al-Qaeda off into being oil independent.
But the markets do not work and they can NOT work. You see in order for a MARKET so solve our problems it has to be a FREE AND FAIR market. we have neither and can NOT have either until we have one more ingredient. An educated motivated population. Our corporations have enough power to literally affect our lives. A "free" market can not exist with such corporations. Continued...
"But the markets do not work and they can NOT work" Because some of it is too regulated.
The answer to our problems isn't more regulation. Companies aren't going to try to destroy this country, if anything they have done much to help us. We have one of the highest tax rates on corporate taxes, and yet they stay here. If they wanted to destroy us they would have left a long time ago, and taken their jobs with them.
They stay here? are you kidding? most DO NOT stay here. Have you not heard of OUTSOURCING. Do you know how much of walmarts product is made in the USA (besides flags I challenge you to fins ONE ITEM in 10 minutes) ALSO even if the taxes are high the profits are HIGHER. IE in another country the governments would not allow them to get so BIG.
5% unemployment, really all our jobs are outsourced?
There is plenty of things made in the u.s.
$1.5 trillion/year of exports...and yet we make nothing? hmm..
So you're saying we outsource all our jobs, then you say we don't outsource them because countries wouldn't let them get so big..? Which is it? Do we outsource them or not?
PLEASE if you want to have a discussion with me you NEED to come prepared. everything you have stated so far is either patently and obviously false OR shows that you did not research ONE TINY BIT of what you speak. Not trying to insult but I am getting tired of typing BASIC KNOWLEDGE kind of stuff to you. I have better things to do at 5am.
uh retard they are leaving dim wit and they are taking their jobs with them because it is much cheaper. Do you have any idea what the hell you are actually talking about.
Low paying labor jobs are coming and leaving all the time. Unemployment wouldnt be 5% if they were just all leaving. Stop listening to John Edwards' speak, and anyone else that makes you believe the only job left in the U.S. is at mcdonalds.
We're in a "recession", and we have 5% unemployment.
Continued... SO just like the founding fathers taking a stand and "jump starting" a change the same will need to happen here to "undermine" the power these corporations have amassed UNTIL a free market can once again exist. Right now we are too uneducated and unmotivated to stand up to these corporations or even for most of us AWARE WE SHOULD. So we need someone else with big enough stick to start it. A president is one such stick wielder.
ALSO my resolution EMPOWER people which in the end REDUCES government power. The only way to give someone power is to TAKE power from someone else. The only way this country was formed (GIVEN POWER) was to TAKE it from someone else (BRITAIN). its just the way it works. Power is limited. It can not be easily created but simply "redistributed" have 95+% of the power in the world in the hands of 1.5% crosses me as a problem.
First there was absolutely ZERO al queda in iraq until AFTER we invaded. NOT ONE SINGLE SOUL. Our intelligence agencies CONFIRM THIS. its not rumor. Second Its not our god damned job to make the world a better place. and WAR NEVER makes the world a better place. EVER. It just ruins lives and makes people HATE US.
Although your right about the terrorist not being Iraq and were not associated with 9/11. You have to know about the Petrodollar and how it works in the world to understand that Saudia did do the 9/11 and we invaded Iraq for Saudia Araba. It all has to do with the petrodollar.
Your mostly right boomer. When we built up the middle east and got contracts to deal in US dollars only and to have them buy our nationa debt for all our support. GUESS which 2 countries did NOT sign over there souls to the USA. Iraq and Iran. Who are we attacking? :-)
Once again your on the right track. Iraq and Iran did sell their oil for the US dollar up until the Euro came into being. Saddam switched in 2000 and Iran began to switch in 2006.
Anyways, those Saudi "terrorists" were purchased by our government. Ironically, nearly all of the purported "terrorists" are still alive! There's much, much more. Bush, Cheney, and their goons were simulating the staged attack just days prior to 9/11/2001. No jet debris were discovered in western PA. The attack on the Pentagon, you ask? Every single solitary surveillance tape was confiscated by our government. Why? Because no plane crashed into the Pentagon; just another premeditated detonation.
Gabeedmann 3 years ago
Bro, 9/11/2001 was an inside job. I just thought you should know. The "Twin Towers" crumbled to the ground in a heap of dust & ash in the style of a planned demolition. Impossible, you say? Heresy, you think? Think again. After careful observation of the video footage, it's quite easy to deduce that at least 20 bombs were painstakingly situated and detonated. Go to Google Video and search "Zeitgeist movie" for a complete explanation. 9/11/2001 was an inside job. I just thought you should know.
Gabeedmann 3 years ago
In 1974 the US made a report for their dictator in office wiping off the map all Iranians opposing the US stealing oil profits and being Muslims. It said 20 years from then Iran would need to develop nuclear power to suffice the energetic demand, considering oil. Not 20, but 34 years later, with a doubled population you want to claim Iran doesnt need nuclear power? They built over a dozen hydroelectric plants in a desertic country to compensate, but sure, theyre still fine with just oil.
germanicus24 4 years ago
If you're saying there is a shortage in oil, you're way off.
sighet04 4 years ago
Who is saying that sighet04. Im saying the US already knew Iran would have needed to develop nuclear industry in 1994 in spite of oil reserves, and 14 years after that deadline was due, they now claim Iran doesnt need nuclear industry because they have oil. A joke.
germanicus24 4 years ago
We have allowed them nuclear enrichment, we just hope they don't change their plans and make that into a weapon. Have we bombed their nuclear factories?
They don't need nuclear power, their is plenty of oil. Sure, they can have it, but to say they need it is a bit far. The U.S. uses many times more power and we don't need it. I guess I don't get why you think they need nuclear power.
sighet04 4 years ago
sighet04,
Why on earth would Iran want nukes for? To give the West an excuse to invade? To nuke millions of Palestinians in Israel? To contradict IAEA and NIE estimates which irrefutably prove Iran is not even looking for nukes? To put an end to their 400 years without ever invading a single country? To go against the 2 UN approved resolutions authored by them calling to wipe the world of WMD's?
germanicus24 4 years ago
You're leaning your conversation one way, the wrong way. Of course Iran wants nukes who wouldn't?
Why doesn't Iran let us go in to inspect for nuclear weapons to clear their name?
Reports that show they don't possess nukes even admit they're not 100% sure. If they cannot investiage everywhere, how would they know?
sighet04 4 years ago
Iran has been the most cooperative country, in which planet do you live? Their facilities have been inspected from top to bottom and the IAEA declares Iran as truthful. How many times have other countries allowed inspectors? If I inspect the US from top to bottom, their secret facilities, and dont find an alien, but Im still not 100% sure, will I ever stop saying there are aliens in the US? Thats twisted logics. Of course they will never be sure, just as they will never be sure God exists.
germanicus24 4 years ago
Top to bottom? Maybe you should take another look (or atleast a first one) at the IAEA's report. Many major countries (just not the U.S.) dismiss the IAEA report because the inspectors were given extremly limited viewing. This comes 6 years after the IAEA and U.N. have been given even more restrictions.
sighet04 4 years ago
In 2005 Iran did give the IAEA a chance to test their nuclear development. IAEA found Iran was in the process of enriching nuclear power, they blamed it on faulty centrifuges, used by Pakistan, likely story.
I think you're misunderstanding me, I don't want to invade Iran, but I think any country trying to emerge with power can easily do it with nukes.
sighet04 4 years ago
Not only the US didnt invade Saudi Arabia, but they actually made a juicy weapons deal with them (some 15 billion dollars in weapons by any chance?), and France has just made a new juicy nuclear deal with them. So what are the lessons for the terrorists: Kill thousands of innocents in a Western country, and get your country a weapons and nuclear deals. Nice lesson taught.
germanicus24 4 years ago
Saudi Arabia didn't attack us.. Al Qaeda did..
The Saudi's never wanted war.. Al Qaeda did..
The terrorists on 9/11 did their actions for Al Qaeda, not the Saudi's.
I would hate for a few extremist citizens of my country to speak for my entire country, as people do with Saudi Arabia.
sighet04 4 years ago
Iraq never attacked you either and never wanted war, so I certainly dont see your point. Iraq never even sheltered al-Qaeda, differently to Saudi Arabia which currently provides Jihadists in Iraq with weapons, and still what they get is a weapons deal and a nuclear deal. You have no idea how logical that sounds. Its amazing how you reward the country from which terrorism comes out.
germanicus24 4 years ago
Saudi Arabia's government doesn't provide Jihadists, their radical camps do.
Iraq didn't shelter al-qaeda they just paid them, there are U.N. resolutions asking them to stop.
The arms deal was in part to get them to produce more oil. If the U.S. found the Saudi government paying terrorists we wouldn't support them.
sighet04 4 years ago
(germ) I don't want to ruin your profile(so i'll put it here), but the propaganda on your page is kind of sickening.
sighet04 4 years ago
After 9/11 we went to Afghanistan..not Iraq. (I really hope you know this, and maybe you mis-spoke)
Does anyone try to claim 9/11 had to do with Iraq?
We went there for the threat and to break up their nuclear programs.
sighet04 4 years ago
I think you need to listen to Dick Cheney's, George Bushes and Donald Rumsfeld's speaches leading up to the invasion of Iraq - yes, they clearly stated that Iraq was involved in 9/11. Just do a Jon Stewart + Dick, Donald or George Youtube search and you can be entertained by your own denial. Mr. Stewart had a lot of fun with this - little did Comedy Central know that the sighet04s of this world are abundant and have selective listening.
kingbtd 4 years ago
9/11 had to do with Al-Qaeda, Al-Qaeda is based in Iraq. That's one reason to go.
Good thing you get your news from a liberal comedy show that on countless times takes things out of context or just makes them up. The closest tie they put on Iraq is to funding Al-Qaeda. No one says Hussein planned or sent people to manage 9/11. No one says he knowingly knew 9/11 would happen. The world is a better place without Hussein in power.
sighet04 4 years ago
Al-Qaeda was (at the time of the invasion) based in Iraq? Wow, that's a strange reality, considering Saddam Hussein was a secularist Muslim and by this definition alone, Al-Qaeda would have had him on their death list. Just look up any CIA reports from the last 15 years and I think you'll find that you are misinformed. I was hoping Jon Stewart might make you laugh but obviously, seeing that you have a hard time with discerning information, you probably don't have a sense of humor.
kingbtd 4 years ago
Cause I don't watch Jon means I don't have a sense of humor..yup..dead on.. You know me so well!
I didn't mean based like it was the strong point, I meant they have bases/camps in Iraq. If Hussein was paying Al-Qaeda why would they kill him? If Hussein and Al-Qaeda can work together against the U.S. wouldn't they?...Oh no i'm sure Saddam loved the U.S. not allowing him to fly his planes or start his own nuclear reactors.
sighet04 4 years ago
Oh, he probably loved us telling him how to run his country..
United Nations Security Council Resolution 687
...asks saddam to stop training/funding terrorism.
sighet04 4 years ago
Which I disagree with. Sovereign Nation means Sovereign nation. We have NO RIGHT to make ANY demands on ANY nations Iraq Iran N Korea China. No right what so ever. What would our response be if China Made UN demands of the USA to disband all nuclear weapons and stop our war mongering? we would LAUGH at them just as iraq iran n korea should laugh at us.
nerys71 4 years ago
"What would our response be if China Made UN demands of the USA to disband all nuclear weapons and stop our war mongering? we would LAUGH at them just as iraq iran n korea should laugh at us. "
We won our past wars, which gives us the right to tell them what to do.
What would be the incentive for winning a war if you win nothing? We let them keep their land, but we have power over them...Or we could take their land, and kill their people ..or they can listen to us...it's their choice.
sighet04 4 years ago
Thats where your LACK of intelligence shines. WE NEVER have the right to make DEMANDS of another country NEVER. What we DO have is the CLOUT AND POWER to FORCE demands on other countries. Most definitely NOT the same thing. Remember the bill of rights is not a set of AMERICAN rights its a set of INTRINSIC HUMAN rights.
nerys71 4 years ago
Why would there ever be an incentive to win a war?
Would the incentive be to ask countries to stop building nuclear bombs, but when they say "no" to our demands we just let them? Are you saying when certain terrorists kill our citizens in our country we should just say "oh well, we don't want to make them mad by going after them."?
The bill of rights is an American right, ask women in Iran how many human rights they have.
sighet04 4 years ago
(continued) --Should everyone get those rights? yes
Do they? No.- Should we make every country have their own bill of rights? Of course not.
sighet04 4 years ago
When you can segregate and DEFINE ... THAT GUY or THOSE GUYS right there. these coordinates. THERE the terrorists go get them. OK fine goto congress declare war on a KNOWN and KNOWABLE and MORE IMPORTANTLY DEFEATABLE!!!! ENEMY then fine goto war. Thats not what we have here. We have a war on an IDEA. you can NOT wage war on an IDEA with a standing army. Continued...
nerys71 4 years ago
Continued... It requires a DIFFERENT WEAPON. that weapon is an educated and EMPOWERED citizenship. IE a STRONGER ideology. There is NO OTHER WAY to "WIN" against an ideology.
nerys71 4 years ago
NO thats where your wrong. Those woman in IRAN have the SAME RIGHTS you and I have. What they also have is a society or dictatorship SUPPRESSING those rights. There is a difference. Your last part (the continued part) is 100% spot on. NO we should not interfere (UNLESS ASKED)
nerys71 4 years ago
Unless asked? Were the Nazi's going to ask us to fight them?
We don't need to be asked, we should just look for more justifiable wars. ww2 was one of the few justified wars, we weren't asked but it was the right thing to do.
sighet04 4 years ago
NO I mean if the VICTIM asks! SO if a country is attacked unprovoked and is innocent and they ASK THE USA for help THEN I am ok with us going to war (but again via congress and with a clear defined enemy and goal)
nerys71 4 years ago
First what right do I have to ask another country to have nukes when I POSSES more nukes than all the other nations on earth combined? Enough to irradiate this entire planet oh about 10 times??? On top of that what makes you think WE HAVE any right to dictate terms to another country? They would say NO because its none of our damned business.
nerys71 4 years ago
"First what right do I have to ask another country to have nukes.. "
WW1-WW2, we happened to be the winner both times, we make the terms. If other countries wanted a say in their future they should've jumped in and helped us.
We don't have a war on an idea, it's a war on people that want to cause havoc to society and anyone not Arab is wrong. I think we saw that with the Nazi's..
sighet04 4 years ago
The difference between the U.S. and Iran is if Iran gets a nuke, they may use, we have thousands and will not use them.
sighet04 4 years ago
Oh really? I guess you missed WWII OH and I guess you missed this historical tidbit. HOW many nukes were EVER used in n act of violence (IE WAR etc..) on earth? Answer: 2 and what country used BOTH OF THEM. Answer US the USA. We are the ONLY country in ALL of history to use Nuclear Bombs in an act of aggression. PERIOD. NO iran would NOT use them in war. They are NOT stupid enough. They would likely be NUKED into a glass plate before there one nuked hit its target. and they know it.
nerys71 4 years ago
If you're so sure they (Iran) aren't going to use the nukes, why do they want them? Arming a nation with nuclear weapons is a great way to destory your economy, why put your people in that situation for no reason..?
(ww2)We used our nukes in good way. In the long run we saved lives when we dropped those 2 bombs.
sighet04 4 years ago
WHy do we want them? why does Russia use them? its like launching a Rocket into space. Your not super power till you have a nuclear capability. Its a status symbol. A sick one but it is what it is. SO AGAIN why do we have them? Were never gonna use them unless we keep getting psycho's like Bush in office? And I do not even think he is that nuts.
nerys71 4 years ago
The difference is we don't have a history of using them, 60 years we have had nuclear wepons and used them once. We have asked Russia is disarm. When Iran gets a nuke it doesnt mean we will invade. We do have the right to ask them to disarm. When Iran says Israel should be wiped off the earth, why should we want them to have a nuke?
sighet04 4 years ago
Correction Sighet04 the USA is the ONLY country in the known history of EARTH to have EVER used a Nuclear Weapon. THE ONLY ones. IF anything the rest of the world should be demanding WE disarm since WE are the only ones who have actually used them. Oddly I agree with there usage in WWII I think its the only reason we have not had WWIII with Nukes. but thats not the point now is it.
nerys71 4 years ago
Your talking IF's how about FACTS. Hussein was a psychopathic Control Nut. He would NEVER work with someone else. Our Intelligence CONFIRMS this over and over again. We attacked for one reason. He was (key word was) a SOFT target and would be easy to con the american people into going along.
nerys71 4 years ago
There are many resolutions asking him to stop funding and training terrorists by the anti-U.S. United Nations...
I never said we should invade every country or any..but there are reasons we go to war with countries, not just because we feel like it
sighet04 4 years ago
but thats why we went to war with iraq. HE FELT LIKE IT. It supported HIS agenda (NOT OURS) If I were president I would ELIMINATE our need for even 1% foreign oil in 3 years or less. Ready? #1 Eminent Domain and National Security to take the patent from chevron and put it in the public domain. #2 auto makers have 3 years to put EV's on the road enmass for under $25k do it for under $10k without sacrificing quality and your TAX FREE forever. DONE. in 3-5 years we would need ZERO foreign oil.
nerys71 4 years ago
Oh and in case your wondering how we can live without that revenue from a few car companies. Exxon made 39.5BILLION is PROFIT. SO how much do you think we had to PAY them in order for them to END UP with 39.5BILLION in profit. Clue in here a FEW HUNDRED TIMES MORE if not THOUSANDS TIMES MORE than we make in taxes from a few auto makers.
nerys71 4 years ago
You're not following a capitalist system, you're doing what Bush does and you're taking too much power. Let the market solve the problems. You can't truly believe if you force companies to run their business a certain way that they will be happy.
--Zero foreign oil, that's a bit too optimistic. How do our factories run without oil?
--We don't pay Exxon, we just don't tax them. I don't know why you took the conversation of Iraq/Al-Qaeda off into being oil independent.
sighet04 4 years ago
But the markets do not work and they can NOT work. You see in order for a MARKET so solve our problems it has to be a FREE AND FAIR market. we have neither and can NOT have either until we have one more ingredient. An educated motivated population. Our corporations have enough power to literally affect our lives. A "free" market can not exist with such corporations. Continued...
nerys71 4 years ago
"But the markets do not work and they can NOT work" Because some of it is too regulated.
The answer to our problems isn't more regulation. Companies aren't going to try to destroy this country, if anything they have done much to help us. We have one of the highest tax rates on corporate taxes, and yet they stay here. If they wanted to destroy us they would have left a long time ago, and taken their jobs with them.
sighet04 4 years ago
They stay here? are you kidding? most DO NOT stay here. Have you not heard of OUTSOURCING. Do you know how much of walmarts product is made in the USA (besides flags I challenge you to fins ONE ITEM in 10 minutes) ALSO even if the taxes are high the profits are HIGHER. IE in another country the governments would not allow them to get so BIG.
nerys71 4 years ago
5% unemployment, really all our jobs are outsourced?
There is plenty of things made in the u.s.
$1.5 trillion/year of exports...and yet we make nothing? hmm..
So you're saying we outsource all our jobs, then you say we don't outsource them because countries wouldn't let them get so big..? Which is it? Do we outsource them or not?
sighet04 4 years ago
Really Please show me where I said what you say I said. "5% unemployment, really .... ?
There is plenty of things made in the u.s."
Show me where I said the .... So now your gonna put words in my mouth to somehow justify your fantasies ?
We outsource our LABOR ninny. the corporations reside here the labor resides OVER there. Have you ever heard of the word deficit?
nerys71 4 years ago
what do you want me to show you?
If all our jobs are outsourced (which you said), how do we get to 5% unemployment, with fewer and fewer unemployment claims each month..
Trade deficit isn't as huge of a problem as some may make you believe it is..
Our GDP is still extremly high over most countries.
sighet04 4 years ago
No I did not say that. AGAIN show me. PROVIDE the quotation. I never said that ONLY you said that.
nerys71 4 years ago
PLEASE if you want to have a discussion with me you NEED to come prepared. everything you have stated so far is either patently and obviously false OR shows that you did not research ONE TINY BIT of what you speak. Not trying to insult but I am getting tired of typing BASIC KNOWLEDGE kind of stuff to you. I have better things to do at 5am.
nerys71 4 years ago
uh retard they are leaving dim wit and they are taking their jobs with them because it is much cheaper. Do you have any idea what the hell you are actually talking about.
harleyhoward 4 years ago
Low paying labor jobs are coming and leaving all the time. Unemployment wouldnt be 5% if they were just all leaving. Stop listening to John Edwards' speak, and anyone else that makes you believe the only job left in the U.S. is at mcdonalds.
We're in a "recession", and we have 5% unemployment.
We're at war, and we have 5% unemployment.
We're doing ok.
sighet04 4 years ago
Continued... SO just like the founding fathers taking a stand and "jump starting" a change the same will need to happen here to "undermine" the power these corporations have amassed UNTIL a free market can once again exist. Right now we are too uneducated and unmotivated to stand up to these corporations or even for most of us AWARE WE SHOULD. So we need someone else with big enough stick to start it. A president is one such stick wielder.
nerys71 4 years ago
ALSO my resolution EMPOWER people which in the end REDUCES government power. The only way to give someone power is to TAKE power from someone else. The only way this country was formed (GIVEN POWER) was to TAKE it from someone else (BRITAIN). its just the way it works. Power is limited. It can not be easily created but simply "redistributed" have 95+% of the power in the world in the hands of 1.5% crosses me as a problem.
nerys71 4 years ago
First there was absolutely ZERO al queda in iraq until AFTER we invaded. NOT ONE SINGLE SOUL. Our intelligence agencies CONFIRM THIS. its not rumor. Second Its not our god damned job to make the world a better place. and WAR NEVER makes the world a better place. EVER. It just ruins lives and makes people HATE US.
nerys71 4 years ago
whya r ewe giving saudi atrabia 1 of the biggest arms deal in american history
uniteamerica1 4 years ago
Because Bush is a criminal and should be thrown in prison for a very long time.
nerys71 4 years ago
Although your right about the terrorist not being Iraq and were not associated with 9/11. You have to know about the Petrodollar and how it works in the world to understand that Saudia did do the 9/11 and we invaded Iraq for Saudia Araba. It all has to do with the petrodollar.
Boomer1949 4 years ago
Your mostly right boomer. When we built up the middle east and got contracts to deal in US dollars only and to have them buy our nationa debt for all our support. GUESS which 2 countries did NOT sign over there souls to the USA. Iraq and Iran. Who are we attacking? :-)
nerys71 4 years ago
Once again your on the right track. Iraq and Iran did sell their oil for the US dollar up until the Euro came into being. Saddam switched in 2000 and Iran began to switch in 2006.
Boomer1949 4 years ago