To me the Bruckner sounds almost casual... it lacks utterly the sense of foreboding, the sense of danger and primordial force that the best conductors find in this music...thin gruel really
Thanks for uploading this. Even though I don't care for Beethoven's Piano 3 and Bruckner's symphonies, I must say that it's a very good recording of a very good orchestra. The strings and the brass are superb. Wish they were playing Brahms Piano 1.
I'm not a trained musician, but I'm pretty sure to hear several small mistakes in rhythm and notes in the first part of the concerto 3 alone, partially by the orchestra, partially by the pianist (i actually do know the concerto by heart, from listening to the karajan CD-version a couple of hundred times that is). Is that normal in the course of such a long piece of music or... is it me??
@Vesivian well i agree the conductor is not the most flamboyant but he has one of the most impeccable reputations of any conductor of the past century. the pianist however is a God...
@msg355 - would you mind to clarify what you mean by "impeccable reputations"? Would you care to cite as examples a few conductors with less than impeccable reputations?
@napper6162 i'm simply saying this guy is renowned worldwide as a conductor, and despite not being overtly flamboyant in his conducting, if you had any musical intelligence you'd find him fascinating to watch. whilst you ask if i'd care to cite as examples a few conductors with less than impeccable reputations, my answer to that is that others are not as highly regarded as him... do you have some problem with accepting that he is a good musician and conductor?!
@msg355 - looks like you tend to be careless in your choice of words. "Impeccable" is generally used to mean the opposite of words like "scandalous", "promiscuous", "unscrupulous" etc when referring to a person's reputation or character. Similarly, "musical intelligence" is a poor choice of words because directing classical music involves a lot of interpretation that is inherently subjective. There is no universally accepted standard of good or bad.
@napper6162 "There is no universally accepted standard of good or bad"... That is a great lie. There are standards and rules for everything, always. That doesn't mean that the standard is better than the non-standard, though.
@FABrendel - nonsense. As far as interpretation goes, there is no such thing as a universally accepted standard of good or bad. Interpretation is what makes artists artists. Seems that not only do you lack basic knowledge, you also lack common sense. Different people like different music and different styles. That's something I learned back when I was 6 year old. Looks like you've got a lot of catching up to do. LOL
@napper6162 Did i ever mention something about interpretation in my comment? An interpretation is a personal view not entirely subjective, though. Have you ever read a review? No reviewer would give his opinion subjectively but with explicit argumentation based on common rules and applicable parameters. There MUST be a standard, otherwise you can judge nothing. Your take doesn't differentiate between the people that know and the people that ignore as everything is acceptable. THINK.
@napper6162 christ i bet you're fun at parties. a), impeccable is universally recognised to mean flawless and near perfect, so fits the bill for Abbado. And b), yes, classical music is widely subjectively interpretated, but just because for example a group of people think Beethoven is bad, does that mean that he is? You're a moron...and slightly bitter due to possibly lack of life achievements. bye bye
@msg355 - Yes, I'm pretty popular at parties, unlike you, and for obvious reasons. You are obnoxious, ill-spoken with poor manners. People who use words they don't actually understand get shunned. Apparently you still haven't learned a thing. Poor parenting perhaps?
@Vesivian - well, that's probably because the programs are bland and boring. Beethoven's piano 3 is nowhere close to piano 5, whereas Bruckner is nowhere close to Brahms. What can the conductor do to help anyways. Strip dancing? Too bad Bruckner didn't live long enough to revise his symphonies more than just a few times. Else he would probably have turned them into something deeper or more interesting after a few hundred more revisions, on his own or with the help of others.
I've see Brendel when I was ushering at the San Francisco Symphony [in person.I also have my autographe signed by him.Great pianist.
MsSandtime 1 week ago
To me the Bruckner sounds almost casual... it lacks utterly the sense of foreboding, the sense of danger and primordial force that the best conductors find in this music...thin gruel really
photo161 3 weeks ago
Probably this is the only way Beethoven would have liked this concerto to be played.
especially for the piano.
Brendel is unique...and really GREAT.
davlak2 3 weeks ago
Thanks for uploading this. Even though I don't care for Beethoven's Piano 3 and Bruckner's symphonies, I must say that it's a very good recording of a very good orchestra. The strings and the brass are superb. Wish they were playing Brahms Piano 1.
napper6162 3 weeks ago
Che meraviglia. Abbado è immmortale.
danielbream 1 month ago
I'm not a trained musician, but I'm pretty sure to hear several small mistakes in rhythm and notes in the first part of the concerto 3 alone, partially by the orchestra, partially by the pianist (i actually do know the concerto by heart, from listening to the karajan CD-version a couple of hundred times that is). Is that normal in the course of such a long piece of music or... is it me??
evtanoxx 1 month ago
What a bland and boring conductor...
Vesivian 1 month ago
@Vesivian only one of the greatest ever...!
msg355 1 month ago
@msg355 Well that is definitely so for the amazing pianist but I can't say so for the conductor honestly...
Vesivian 1 month ago
@Vesivian well i agree the conductor is not the most flamboyant but he has one of the most impeccable reputations of any conductor of the past century. the pianist however is a God...
msg355 1 month ago 3
@msg355 - would you mind to clarify what you mean by "impeccable reputations"? Would you care to cite as examples a few conductors with less than impeccable reputations?
napper6162 3 weeks ago
@napper6162 i'm simply saying this guy is renowned worldwide as a conductor, and despite not being overtly flamboyant in his conducting, if you had any musical intelligence you'd find him fascinating to watch. whilst you ask if i'd care to cite as examples a few conductors with less than impeccable reputations, my answer to that is that others are not as highly regarded as him... do you have some problem with accepting that he is a good musician and conductor?!
msg355 3 weeks ago
@msg355 - looks like you tend to be careless in your choice of words. "Impeccable" is generally used to mean the opposite of words like "scandalous", "promiscuous", "unscrupulous" etc when referring to a person's reputation or character. Similarly, "musical intelligence" is a poor choice of words because directing classical music involves a lot of interpretation that is inherently subjective. There is no universally accepted standard of good or bad.
napper6162 3 weeks ago
@napper6162 "There is no universally accepted standard of good or bad"... That is a great lie. There are standards and rules for everything, always. That doesn't mean that the standard is better than the non-standard, though.
FABrendel 3 weeks ago
@FABrendel - nonsense. As far as interpretation goes, there is no such thing as a universally accepted standard of good or bad. Interpretation is what makes artists artists. Seems that not only do you lack basic knowledge, you also lack common sense. Different people like different music and different styles. That's something I learned back when I was 6 year old. Looks like you've got a lot of catching up to do. LOL
napper6162 3 weeks ago
@napper6162 Did i ever mention something about interpretation in my comment? An interpretation is a personal view not entirely subjective, though. Have you ever read a review? No reviewer would give his opinion subjectively but with explicit argumentation based on common rules and applicable parameters. There MUST be a standard, otherwise you can judge nothing. Your take doesn't differentiate between the people that know and the people that ignore as everything is acceptable. THINK.
FABrendel 3 weeks ago
@napper6162 christ i bet you're fun at parties. a), impeccable is universally recognised to mean flawless and near perfect, so fits the bill for Abbado. And b), yes, classical music is widely subjectively interpretated, but just because for example a group of people think Beethoven is bad, does that mean that he is? You're a moron...and slightly bitter due to possibly lack of life achievements. bye bye
msg355 3 weeks ago
@msg355 - Yes, I'm pretty popular at parties, unlike you, and for obvious reasons. You are obnoxious, ill-spoken with poor manners. People who use words they don't actually understand get shunned. Apparently you still haven't learned a thing. Poor parenting perhaps?
napper6162 3 weeks ago
@Vesivian - well, that's probably because the programs are bland and boring. Beethoven's piano 3 is nowhere close to piano 5, whereas Bruckner is nowhere close to Brahms. What can the conductor do to help anyways. Strip dancing? Too bad Bruckner didn't live long enough to revise his symphonies more than just a few times. Else he would probably have turned them into something deeper or more interesting after a few hundred more revisions, on his own or with the help of others.
napper6162 3 weeks ago
ascoltare Abbado e' sempre una gioia. con Brendel la gioia raddoppia.
grazie per la pubblicazione.
klemperer100 2 months ago
good one. love this.
WalkToParadiseGarden 2 months ago
Great sound,great orchestra,great conductor,great composer and Alfred Brendel.
Must admit the tears came.
MrCapacitors 3 months ago 4
@MrCapacitors
eason0605 3 months ago