How disingenuous. How revolting. By examining her behavior and actions, one can only conclude that Nancy Pelosi's ideology is the same as the Communist regime in China. The only difference is that she is ashamed of it. Such crocodile tears for Mr. Liu.
@ryutard You underestimate the power of the Chinese ppl! THERE ARE PROTESTS IN CHINA EVERYDAY! AND YOU OVER ESTIMATE THE POWER of the CHinese gov't! 1.4 billion ppl is impossible to control! If the iron fist still exist then corruption and pollution would be a thing of the past! The central gov't is doing good for the well being of its ppl! what country would invest everything to improve the living standards of it ppl? Its is local gov't in CHina that r OUT OF CONTROL n Corrupted!
@popoTb i'm not underestimating anybody, in fact, i see your country as one that possesses great potential. and don't you see it? if the rest of the world, which runs by democracy, could handle it, why can't you? oh and, from your arguments, i could sense that you're more interested on country's position in the world in tems of politics than in humanitariaN causes.
@ryutar Democracy is the cup of coffee to Americans! China will find its own way of system with its own characteristic! We drink tea everyday! Can we not respect both our differences or most we impose our ideas on one another and get on each others nerves? YOU NEED A TRIP TO CHINA! ITS NOT WHAT YOU THINK IT IS! AND U WILL FIND OUT THAT DEMOCRACY AND THESE IDEAS ARE THE LAST THING ON PPL"s minds! IF PPL R NOT SOMEHOW HAPPY! 1.4 BILLION PPL IS A FORCE THAT NOT EVEN THE CHINESE GOV'T CAN HANDLE!!
@popoTb i respect your opinions, but from what i'm seeing, your country does not. why is it that liu xiaobo, who's voicing out what he thinks about your governement, deserve to be put behind bars? and if transparency and social justice and democracy for that matter, is the last thing from people's minds, why is it there are liu xiaobo's out there in china?
Liu said in one of his speech that, "China should be under 300 years of western colonization for the country and its ppl to improve!" By making such suggestions, he is no longer a freedom activist!
@ryutard First, thx for finally answer my questions directly! To answer your queston I would like to make this comparison! Liu saying such things is like the current wikileads situation! The founder is imprisoned, they r trying to ruin his reputation, and the website has been block in most countries! But that needless to say, does not justify anything!
@popoTb and what exactly are you trying to point out with that? that the situation with wikileaks i condemnable and liu xiaobo's cirumstance is not? didn't you notice that all the arguments i threw back were in interrogative form? it's because i want to know your opinions about these matters, and in the same way, share my opinions with you, without being rash. :) and thanks for not being harsh, as well.
If you are a democratic freedom fighter! Y not give China a chance? A Chance to improve like it has been doing for 30 yrs! If you would study the history of CHina, you will see that China is not an aggressive nation! If anything , history prove how weak China can be sometimes! Even now it is! Chinese still admire the AMerican Dream! Prefer Star Bucks over Traditional tea! But when it comes to national pride and security it most take a stand!
@popoTb but what is the whole point of china being on top of the world, when not all of its people are free to say what they think without being punished corporally? is it all just for ego?
@ryutard China is not on top of the world! But thats how western media portrays it! How can it be on top when there are still hundreds of millions of rural Chinese in the west part of CHina that don;t have running water yet! Its still got a long way to go! There is freedom in CHina and human rights!! But there are limits!! If you learn to read Chinese, you should go search for blogs in China! Then you will see all sorts of rhetoric and opinions!
@popoTb i'm not saying it is, it's just that it seems china seeks to be this by all means necessary while many of its people are facing death because of injustice, poverty, etc...
@ryutard Again the Central Gov't of CHina is for the good and well being of the ppl! Otherwise, the 1.4 billion ppl will over throw it in a blink of an eye! Injustice though is a problem in the local gov't of CHina! Again no gov;t can control 1.4 billion ppl and a country as vast as CHina! Local gov't r corrupted n out of control! Poverty is prominent mostly in the western parts of CHina! Thats y the central gov't in pushing development west ward, so ppl there can share the economic effects!
@popoTb yes, i know, but to raise the main issue i've been wanting to seek clarification since this started: why should liu be imprisoned and his wife and people like them because they voiced out their opinions? and even if the local government is the one responsible for this, why is it that the president could not lift liu's sentence?
@ryutard I thought we went past that? Again, Its unfortunate that Liu is imprisoned! My heart goes out to him and his family under house arrest! But if you do the crime then you better do the time!! A comparable situation would be with Wikileaks. Its founder is imprison, his reputation is being ruined, the website block from most countries! Same hypocrisy?
@ryutard Lastly, I most say that CHina will work towards a system that incorporates elements of democracy, freedom, human rights, socialism and capitalism. It will conceive a new thought of system! It won't happen over night and it can;t or otherwise it will lead to chaos!
@popoTb yes, i believe that, too, though i think that people's welfare comes first than new idealism, originality, and ego, or if there ever was a need for pride, i wish it'd be shared with the whole world and not just selfishly owned by one party or another, cause the contemporary times is all about the countries having no more boundaries, and that goes for everyone's opinions and rights as well. :)
@ryutard It not, "selfishly own by one party!" just like any big company there are politics within politics! The gov't of China is split into many smaller parties! And there is always a power struggle of different thoughts and ideas! Like Deng Xiaopeng! He had to overcome many hardcore communist members in gov't to implement open market, freedom and human rights policies!
@popoTb by party, i meant government, and i wasn't referring to your country in particular. i was just saying that i wish countries would work together, as equals, if you'd like to put it that way, and not like what america or other countries do, oppressing trade and things so that they could have all things for themselves. i'd like to see the day when everyone treats people as equals, like what true communism is. btw, i'm asian, too.
@ryutard Its funny the way how America look at the world! Its like how Paris Hilton perceives it! Everything most be in the color PINK! Anything else is inferior and wrong! And she will, by all means, turn everything into the color PINK! Any other color deserves no respect! What right or wrong is up for history to judge! But what I know is that China is heading in the right direction! There r still 3-4 million that needs running water in CHina! Lets HELP[ THEM FIRST B4 WE TALK POLITICS!
I can't fathom how these people (below) can criticize a prize for someone fighting for Democracy in a hardline political system like China. Unbelievable. Do you people have your heads up your asses 24/7???
@judyleasugar97 Well.. Liu is not the first or the only human rights activist in China! He is imprison not because he advocates democracy. Its because he wrote in an article saying, "CHINA SHOULD BE UNDER 300 YEARS OF WESTERN COLONIZATION FOR THE COUNTRY & ITS PPL TO IMPROVE!" For saying that and as a Chinese myself, he deserves the consequences! But needless to say, THE WEST SHOULD AWARD HIM FOR SAYING EXACTLY WHAT ON THEIR MINDS!
So don;t call me for being an ASS! Get ur facts right dude!
The Nobel Prize is meaningless! It meant something back in the days of Nelson Mandela! Now a days, what did Obama do to deserve it? And Liu for this year? LOL.... its political more then practical!
@popoTb Are you so dense so as not see Liu Xiaobo's winning as a symbolical decision and statement that governments such as that which exists in China, your country, is hostile to many of every human's rights? we're living in modern times, and it's despicable that you, of all people, would allow and encourage twisted philosophies on your own countrymen. and please, the nobel prize prize is meaningless to you, but for those who cry for democracy in your country, it is not.
@ryutard Yes we are living in modern times! China hasn't been at war with anyone since the 50's & 60's! If anything, China has been invaded, colonized, raped ever since the Opium war to the 2nd world war then cultural Rev! HOW FAR HAS CHINA COME FROM THOSE DAYS? Yet not only does the west discredits it accomplishments for lifting 500 + million out of extreme poverty & exercising higher levels of Freedom & human rights! CHINA WILL NEVER BE A DUPLICATE OF WESTERN SYSTEMS! CHINA IS UNIQUE!
@popoTb do not stray from what i meant by modern, because by modern i meant democracy and equal rights, and not just mere development. sure your country's policies has been successful and has reaped many economic successes, but how are your people treated, exactly? i know you are to answer differently from those people who have been oppressed, and i wish you could reflect on the possibility of you not being capable of voicing your opinions, like what you are doing now. :)
THE NOBEL PRICE HAS BECOME SO POLITICAL, DEGRADING AND MEANINGLESS! I USED TO BELIEVE IN IT WHEN MANDELA WAS AWARDED! BUT NOW... LOL..... ITS JUST ANOTHER CHIP ON THE POKER TABLE!!
IF OBAMA AND LAU DESERVED IT!! SO DOES EVERYONE ON EARTH JUST TO BE FAIR!!!
YEAH RIGHT!! IF IT MAKES YOU HAPPY AND SUPERIOR AMERICA!!! LOL...
IF LAST YEAR'S WINNER WAS OBAMA! THIS YEAR IS LAU!! NEXT YEAR WILL BE ME.........!! ALL 3 OF US HAS 1 THING IN COMMON, "WE DID NOT DO ANYTHING CLOSE TO WHAT NELSON MANDELA DID!"
AWARD THE DEVIL FOR BEING EVIL!! LAU SUPPORTED DEMOCRACY, YES BUT HE AIN'T THE FIRST IN CHINA! WHY HE DESERVES LIFE IMPRISONMENT IS BECAUSE HE PROMOTED THAT CHINA SHOULD BE UNDER 300 YEARS OF WESTERN COLONIZATION FOR THE COUNTRY N ITS PEOPLE TO IMPROVE!
Liberals can't help yourselves, your DNA has the DRD4 "liberal gene. Kind of like having an extra chromosome and we all know what happens with that. On Nov 2nd we will provide a cure for this. It's like cancer, we cannot let it spread anymore. We are going to Spay and Neuter Democrats and Liberals, it will eventually fix the problem . Basically the gene makes you a born cheater and liar. DRD4 is known as the liberal gene, we call it the stupid gene and you cannot fix that.
@Rosgo66 An intoxicated orangutan with hydrocephaly makes more sense than Pelosi. Pelosi talks so much she can’t tell the difference between herself and other voices. As long as the nation is obsessed with different kind of politics, is no one going to remark on what a great country it is where a mentally retarded woman can become Speaker of the house? Stupidity has a new face. I was looking in the dictionary for the meaning ofthe word “stupid”. All I could find was a picture of Nancy Pelosi.
@george2648 it must suck for you to be so cowardly as to only have the courage to express anger anonymously online safe from any real repercussions. I feel terribly sad for you. Okay over it now.
@ccm800 you look like the guy who won American Idol the old dude SOUL PATROL LOL......no wonder you have grey hair your trippin on my you gotta relax thats why you hair is so grey that is all....so STEP BACK
Nancy Pelosi is a zionist jew
zigyzigy13 1 year ago
How disingenuous. How revolting. By examining her behavior and actions, one can only conclude that Nancy Pelosi's ideology is the same as the Communist regime in China. The only difference is that she is ashamed of it. Such crocodile tears for Mr. Liu.
tacoland2000 1 year ago
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ryutard 1 year ago
@ryutard You underestimate the power of the Chinese ppl! THERE ARE PROTESTS IN CHINA EVERYDAY! AND YOU OVER ESTIMATE THE POWER of the CHinese gov't! 1.4 billion ppl is impossible to control! If the iron fist still exist then corruption and pollution would be a thing of the past! The central gov't is doing good for the well being of its ppl! what country would invest everything to improve the living standards of it ppl? Its is local gov't in CHina that r OUT OF CONTROL n Corrupted!
popoTb 1 year ago
@popoTb i'm not underestimating anybody, in fact, i see your country as one that possesses great potential. and don't you see it? if the rest of the world, which runs by democracy, could handle it, why can't you? oh and, from your arguments, i could sense that you're more interested on country's position in the world in tems of politics than in humanitariaN causes.
ryutard 1 year ago
@ryutar Democracy is the cup of coffee to Americans! China will find its own way of system with its own characteristic! We drink tea everyday! Can we not respect both our differences or most we impose our ideas on one another and get on each others nerves? YOU NEED A TRIP TO CHINA! ITS NOT WHAT YOU THINK IT IS! AND U WILL FIND OUT THAT DEMOCRACY AND THESE IDEAS ARE THE LAST THING ON PPL"s minds! IF PPL R NOT SOMEHOW HAPPY! 1.4 BILLION PPL IS A FORCE THAT NOT EVEN THE CHINESE GOV'T CAN HANDLE!!
popoTb 1 year ago
@popoTb i respect your opinions, but from what i'm seeing, your country does not. why is it that liu xiaobo, who's voicing out what he thinks about your governement, deserve to be put behind bars? and if transparency and social justice and democracy for that matter, is the last thing from people's minds, why is it there are liu xiaobo's out there in china?
ryutard 1 year ago
@ryutard
Liu said in one of his speech that, "China should be under 300 years of western colonization for the country and its ppl to improve!" By making such suggestions, he is no longer a freedom activist!
popoTb 1 year ago
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ryutard 1 year ago
@ryutard First, thx for finally answer my questions directly! To answer your queston I would like to make this comparison! Liu saying such things is like the current wikileads situation! The founder is imprisoned, they r trying to ruin his reputation, and the website has been block in most countries! But that needless to say, does not justify anything!
popoTb 1 year ago
@popoTb and what exactly are you trying to point out with that? that the situation with wikileaks i condemnable and liu xiaobo's cirumstance is not? didn't you notice that all the arguments i threw back were in interrogative form? it's because i want to know your opinions about these matters, and in the same way, share my opinions with you, without being rash. :) and thanks for not being harsh, as well.
ryutard 1 year ago
If you are a democratic freedom fighter! Y not give China a chance? A Chance to improve like it has been doing for 30 yrs! If you would study the history of CHina, you will see that China is not an aggressive nation! If anything , history prove how weak China can be sometimes! Even now it is! Chinese still admire the AMerican Dream! Prefer Star Bucks over Traditional tea! But when it comes to national pride and security it most take a stand!
popoTb 1 year ago
@popoTb but what is the whole point of china being on top of the world, when not all of its people are free to say what they think without being punished corporally? is it all just for ego?
ryutard 1 year ago
@ryutard China is not on top of the world! But thats how western media portrays it! How can it be on top when there are still hundreds of millions of rural Chinese in the west part of CHina that don;t have running water yet! Its still got a long way to go! There is freedom in CHina and human rights!! But there are limits!! If you learn to read Chinese, you should go search for blogs in China! Then you will see all sorts of rhetoric and opinions!
popoTb 1 year ago
@popoTb i'm not saying it is, it's just that it seems china seeks to be this by all means necessary while many of its people are facing death because of injustice, poverty, etc...
ryutard 1 year ago
@ryutard Again the Central Gov't of CHina is for the good and well being of the ppl! Otherwise, the 1.4 billion ppl will over throw it in a blink of an eye! Injustice though is a problem in the local gov't of CHina! Again no gov;t can control 1.4 billion ppl and a country as vast as CHina! Local gov't r corrupted n out of control! Poverty is prominent mostly in the western parts of CHina! Thats y the central gov't in pushing development west ward, so ppl there can share the economic effects!
popoTb 1 year ago
@popoTb yes, i know, but to raise the main issue i've been wanting to seek clarification since this started: why should liu be imprisoned and his wife and people like them because they voiced out their opinions? and even if the local government is the one responsible for this, why is it that the president could not lift liu's sentence?
ryutard 1 year ago
@ryutard I thought we went past that? Again, Its unfortunate that Liu is imprisoned! My heart goes out to him and his family under house arrest! But if you do the crime then you better do the time!! A comparable situation would be with Wikileaks. Its founder is imprison, his reputation is being ruined, the website block from most countries! Same hypocrisy?
popoTb 1 year ago
@ryutard OK its getting late! "i will be back" :)
popoTb 1 year ago
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ryutard 1 year ago
@ryutard Lastly, I most say that CHina will work towards a system that incorporates elements of democracy, freedom, human rights, socialism and capitalism. It will conceive a new thought of system! It won't happen over night and it can;t or otherwise it will lead to chaos!
popoTb 1 year ago
@popoTb yes, i believe that, too, though i think that people's welfare comes first than new idealism, originality, and ego, or if there ever was a need for pride, i wish it'd be shared with the whole world and not just selfishly owned by one party or another, cause the contemporary times is all about the countries having no more boundaries, and that goes for everyone's opinions and rights as well. :)
ryutard 1 year ago
@ryutard It not, "selfishly own by one party!" just like any big company there are politics within politics! The gov't of China is split into many smaller parties! And there is always a power struggle of different thoughts and ideas! Like Deng Xiaopeng! He had to overcome many hardcore communist members in gov't to implement open market, freedom and human rights policies!
popoTb 1 year ago
@popoTb by party, i meant government, and i wasn't referring to your country in particular. i was just saying that i wish countries would work together, as equals, if you'd like to put it that way, and not like what america or other countries do, oppressing trade and things so that they could have all things for themselves. i'd like to see the day when everyone treats people as equals, like what true communism is. btw, i'm asian, too.
ryutard 1 year ago
@ryutard Its funny the way how America look at the world! Its like how Paris Hilton perceives it! Everything most be in the color PINK! Anything else is inferior and wrong! And she will, by all means, turn everything into the color PINK! Any other color deserves no respect! What right or wrong is up for history to judge! But what I know is that China is heading in the right direction! There r still 3-4 million that needs running water in CHina! Lets HELP[ THEM FIRST B4 WE TALK POLITICS!
popoTb 1 year ago
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@popoTb @popoTb that's true, and i won't deny that, but like i asked before, is that worth it for him being in jail?
ryutard 1 year ago
HELP CHINA!!!!
MrLuofei200888 1 year ago
@MrLuofei200888
HOW'S HELP AMERICA!
popoTb 1 year ago
@MrLuofei200888
I JUST CHECK OUT YOUR HOME PAGE! WOW !! YOU RUNNING DOG!! YOU ARE THE 0.001%er OF CHINESE THAT WANNA WHITE!
popoTb 1 year ago
STOP the AMERICAN CENSORSHIP on WIKILEAKS
American Crimes:
- White Phosphorus on civilians in Iraq
- Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombing
- Genocide of Native Americans
- Black Slavery
WIKILEAKS for NOBEL
TheWIKILEAKSforNOBEL 1 year ago
I can't fathom how these people (below) can criticize a prize for someone fighting for Democracy in a hardline political system like China. Unbelievable. Do you people have your heads up your asses 24/7???
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 Well.. Liu is not the first or the only human rights activist in China! He is imprison not because he advocates democracy. Its because he wrote in an article saying, "CHINA SHOULD BE UNDER 300 YEARS OF WESTERN COLONIZATION FOR THE COUNTRY & ITS PPL TO IMPROVE!" For saying that and as a Chinese myself, he deserves the consequences! But needless to say, THE WEST SHOULD AWARD HIM FOR SAYING EXACTLY WHAT ON THEIR MINDS!
So don;t call me for being an ASS! Get ur facts right dude!
popoTb 1 year ago
@popoTb: They don't award the Nobel prize for nothing.
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
The Nobel Prize is meaningless! It meant something back in the days of Nelson Mandela! Now a days, what did Obama do to deserve it? And Liu for this year? LOL.... its political more then practical!
popoTb 1 year ago
@popoTb Are you so dense so as not see Liu Xiaobo's winning as a symbolical decision and statement that governments such as that which exists in China, your country, is hostile to many of every human's rights? we're living in modern times, and it's despicable that you, of all people, would allow and encourage twisted philosophies on your own countrymen. and please, the nobel prize prize is meaningless to you, but for those who cry for democracy in your country, it is not.
ryutard 1 year ago
@ryutard Yes we are living in modern times! China hasn't been at war with anyone since the 50's & 60's! If anything, China has been invaded, colonized, raped ever since the Opium war to the 2nd world war then cultural Rev! HOW FAR HAS CHINA COME FROM THOSE DAYS? Yet not only does the west discredits it accomplishments for lifting 500 + million out of extreme poverty & exercising higher levels of Freedom & human rights! CHINA WILL NEVER BE A DUPLICATE OF WESTERN SYSTEMS! CHINA IS UNIQUE!
popoTb 1 year ago
@popoTb never say never
seyoumfasil 1 year ago
@popoTb do not stray from what i meant by modern, because by modern i meant democracy and equal rights, and not just mere development. sure your country's policies has been successful and has reaped many economic successes, but how are your people treated, exactly? i know you are to answer differently from those people who have been oppressed, and i wish you could reflect on the possibility of you not being capable of voicing your opinions, like what you are doing now. :)
ryutard 1 year ago
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ryutard 1 year ago
THE NOBEL PRICE HAS BECOME SO POLITICAL, DEGRADING AND MEANINGLESS! I USED TO BELIEVE IN IT WHEN MANDELA WAS AWARDED! BUT NOW... LOL..... ITS JUST ANOTHER CHIP ON THE POKER TABLE!!
IF OBAMA AND LAU DESERVED IT!! SO DOES EVERYONE ON EARTH JUST TO BE FAIR!!!
popoTb 1 year ago
YEAH RIGHT!! IF IT MAKES YOU HAPPY AND SUPERIOR AMERICA!!! LOL...
IF LAST YEAR'S WINNER WAS OBAMA! THIS YEAR IS LAU!! NEXT YEAR WILL BE ME.........!! ALL 3 OF US HAS 1 THING IN COMMON, "WE DID NOT DO ANYTHING CLOSE TO WHAT NELSON MANDELA DID!"
AWARD THE DEVIL FOR BEING EVIL!! LAU SUPPORTED DEMOCRACY, YES BUT HE AIN'T THE FIRST IN CHINA! WHY HE DESERVES LIFE IMPRISONMENT IS BECAUSE HE PROMOTED THAT CHINA SHOULD BE UNDER 300 YEARS OF WESTERN COLONIZATION FOR THE COUNTRY N ITS PEOPLE TO IMPROVE!
popoTb 1 year ago
Liberals can't help yourselves, your DNA has the DRD4 "liberal gene. Kind of like having an extra chromosome and we all know what happens with that. On Nov 2nd we will provide a cure for this. It's like cancer, we cannot let it spread anymore. We are going to Spay and Neuter Democrats and Liberals, it will eventually fix the problem . Basically the gene makes you a born cheater and liar. DRD4 is known as the liberal gene, we call it the stupid gene and you cannot fix that.
dkkght46 1 year ago
Dems blocking the unemployed now. Rot in hell Pelosi
solitaryfracturetv 1 year ago
DEMS and REPUBLICANS are both the same shit they both aint gonna do shit for the American people WAKE UP SHEEP
george2648 1 year ago
@George2648 wow down to name calling but all republicans do thy huh since they have no good ideas!
Rosgo66 1 year ago
Free Julian Assange!
MultiAlpha111 1 year ago
@MultiAlpha111 No.
knoose 1 year ago
@knoose y?
MultiAlpha111 1 year ago
You are a great woman! I love your book!
Rosgo66 1 year ago
@Rosgo66 An intoxicated orangutan with hydrocephaly makes more sense than Pelosi. Pelosi talks so much she can’t tell the difference between herself and other voices. As long as the nation is obsessed with different kind of politics, is no one going to remark on what a great country it is where a mentally retarded woman can become Speaker of the house? Stupidity has a new face. I was looking in the dictionary for the meaning ofthe word “stupid”. All I could find was a picture of Nancy Pelosi.
dkkght46 1 year ago
Nancy Pelosi should be HANGED but before that raped and tortured
george2648 1 year ago
@george2648 you are an idiot!
lizard151103 1 year ago
@george2648 you first loser
ccm800 1 year ago
@ccm800 shut the fuck up you Grey haired jizz eating monkey
george2648 1 year ago
@george2648 it must suck for you to be so cowardly as to only have the courage to express anger anonymously online safe from any real repercussions. I feel terribly sad for you. Okay over it now.
ccm800 1 year ago
@ccm800 you look like the guy who won American Idol the old dude SOUL PATROL LOL......no wonder you have grey hair your trippin on my you gotta relax thats why you hair is so grey that is all....so STEP BACK
george2648 1 year ago
@george2648 Please tell me you don't have children.
demmmmm1 1 year ago
@george2648 wow...
knoose 1 year ago