a-symetrical balance, means mules are not supposed to be == to chronoboost or inject... as long as TERRAN is == to ZERG and TOSS... can terran instantly lose 200u of roaches and re-max with broodlords? can terran instantly warp in a defense anywhere on the map? it's not 1-1 balance, as long as terran in general is balanced vs zerg, you don't need to specifically balance mules vs inject or marines vs lings.
Hey Halby, I am wondering your opinions on the balance of MULEs and marines. Because it is so common to see people crying about both of them which really bothers me (although I can see where they are coming from).
@crazygeek4296 the game is balanced a-symetrically... we get the best mineral dump... and the most minerals... yaaay... but that doesn't mean the game isn't balanced, are the top 500 players all terrans? ... hoy doy.
talking about balance in terms of 1 unit is stupid, in fact talking about balance at all unless you are on the balance team of blizzard is stupid. let blizz balance the game, how bout if we just play it :) i never use ghosts against protoss on the ladder.
@nosehair16 Yeah that's relatively close to my opinion, for instance when I play vs protoss I almost always three rax all in (or pull scvs) because I realize that the chance of me winning after the early game drops down super low, simply because I really can't handle protoss late game at my level. But early game I can usually win.
@crazygeek4296 I think halby said that psy or destiny said that mules, crono and inject give the same results but while crono and inject reward punctuality mules reward lazyness. Which is quite funny and true. Plus mules only take about 6apm while inject takes about 30apm at a guess. That may sound unfair but there are techniques to doing injects fast. ( 8 bases in less then a second)
But stuff like this is never balanced. If you think starcraft is unfair have a look at warhammer 40k....
@TheMigs101 Haha, I never played WH, but I played WoW, and my god was PvP ridiculous. Just... there are no words.
What would sorta 'balance' mules, at least for the lower levels, is to have some sort of cooldown on the MULEs... not the entire duration of the MULEs, but something to prevent spamming once you realize you haven't kept on top of it.
This wouldn't, or at least shouldn't, affect the professionals because they should stay on top of their macro and hit every MULE on time. Should.
Hey Halb. I faced this guy Failure. You might be interested in my counter to in-base 2-gate. It's really unique/fun, and almost always an auto-win. Search for "When Cheese Fails Follow-up" on my channel's videos.
@HalbyStarcraft Sometimes when I get cheesed on the ladder, I'll check their match history and all their games are <10minutes in length. There actually are dedicated pure cheesers who are in diamond and sometimes even masters.
@Ketroc21 SO WEIRD! I literally hadn't seen an in-base 2gate since my video from 8 months ago. My very first match today after watching your video, a mid-masters toss did an in-base 2gate against me in the exact same position as you on xelnaga. I owned him my usual way :). Replay proof: search drop.sc for replay Ketroc vs CitanZero
how come in the silver league the colossus shoot your units, not the bunkers? I need to get into the masters.
tlynch001 3 weeks ago
Halby, this is my favorite cast I've seen of yours. This isn't perfect, but it is damn good. You tried. ;)
MLATX512 3 weeks ago
Timing "No you're not" to the stalker fire on the medivacs was key to this successful cast.
antant06 3 weeks ago
a-symetrical balance, means mules are not supposed to be == to chronoboost or inject... as long as TERRAN is == to ZERG and TOSS... can terran instantly lose 200u of roaches and re-max with broodlords? can terran instantly warp in a defense anywhere on the map? it's not 1-1 balance, as long as terran in general is balanced vs zerg, you don't need to specifically balance mules vs inject or marines vs lings.
nosehair16 3 weeks ago
Hey Halby, I am wondering your opinions on the balance of MULEs and marines. Because it is so common to see people crying about both of them which really bothers me (although I can see where they are coming from).
Also, how often do you use ghosts vs protoss?
crazygeek4296 3 weeks ago
@crazygeek4296 the game is balanced a-symetrically... we get the best mineral dump... and the most minerals... yaaay... but that doesn't mean the game isn't balanced, are the top 500 players all terrans? ... hoy doy.
talking about balance in terms of 1 unit is stupid, in fact talking about balance at all unless you are on the balance team of blizzard is stupid. let blizz balance the game, how bout if we just play it :) i never use ghosts against protoss on the ladder.
nosehair16 3 weeks ago
@nosehair16 Yeah that's relatively close to my opinion, for instance when I play vs protoss I almost always three rax all in (or pull scvs) because I realize that the chance of me winning after the early game drops down super low, simply because I really can't handle protoss late game at my level. But early game I can usually win.
GamingCyDe 3 weeks ago
@crazygeek4296 I think halby said that psy or destiny said that mules, crono and inject give the same results but while crono and inject reward punctuality mules reward lazyness. Which is quite funny and true. Plus mules only take about 6apm while inject takes about 30apm at a guess. That may sound unfair but there are techniques to doing injects fast. ( 8 bases in less then a second)
But stuff like this is never balanced. If you think starcraft is unfair have a look at warhammer 40k....
TheMigs101 3 weeks ago
@TheMigs101 Haha, I never played WH, but I played WoW, and my god was PvP ridiculous. Just... there are no words.
What would sorta 'balance' mules, at least for the lower levels, is to have some sort of cooldown on the MULEs... not the entire duration of the MULEs, but something to prevent spamming once you realize you haven't kept on top of it.
This wouldn't, or at least shouldn't, affect the professionals because they should stay on top of their macro and hit every MULE on time. Should.
crazygeek4296 3 weeks ago
@crazygeek4296 ...they make that shit unbalanced on purpose which make my eldar cry :'(
TheMigs101 3 weeks ago
you should have ended by saying "you tried"
thegoods34 3 weeks ago
@thegoods34 hahaha :)
nosehair16 3 weeks ago
this video made me laugh
centercity1 3 weeks ago
next time build the barack instead of the depo, to block his second gate!
spinier 3 weeks ago
@spinier or you could use terran mobility and lift your base to your natural, thus putting his zealots on the wrong side of the wall again.
BFGfreak 3 weeks ago
@BFGfreak i tried it personally and it works not that great, but i guess it was just me failing.
spinier 3 weeks ago
Hey Halb. I faced this guy Failure. You might be interested in my counter to in-base 2-gate. It's really unique/fun, and almost always an auto-win. Search for "When Cheese Fails Follow-up" on my channel's videos.
Ketroc21 3 weeks ago 10
@Ketroc21 i like it ketroc, thanks :)
HalbyStarcraft 3 weeks ago 4
@Ketroc21 i can't believe the same guy did the same build against both of us, 8 months apart. WOW. he's dedicated.
HalbyStarcraft 3 weeks ago
@HalbyStarcraft Sometimes when I get cheesed on the ladder, I'll check their match history and all their games are <10minutes in length. There actually are dedicated pure cheesers who are in diamond and sometimes even masters.
Ketroc21 3 weeks ago
@HalbyStarcraft Dedicated or dense?
mongbatstar 2 weeks ago
@mongbatstar Fine line there.
ToxinMortalis 2 weeks ago
@HalbyStarcraft Ketroc Sent me.. I like! Subbed.
bubba18sar 2 weeks ago
@Ketroc21 SO WEIRD! I literally hadn't seen an in-base 2gate since my video from 8 months ago. My very first match today after watching your video, a mid-masters toss did an in-base 2gate against me in the exact same position as you on xelnaga. I owned him my usual way :). Replay proof: search drop.sc for replay Ketroc vs CitanZero
Ketroc21 3 weeks ago
this is whats happening when u are trying to be fancy, instead of rine bunker:D
MrBimbosz 3 weeks ago