This isn't about racism. Its about control of sheep by a tyrannical dictator. There is no racist component in this so called experiment. Dividing people by some arbitrary thing and have them become them and us is nothing to do with racism. Its a phenomena known as divide and conquer.
If I were a member of that blue-eyed group, I'd scrunch up a piece of paper, throw it at the teacher and yell 'Rebellion!'
Because that's what the oppressed do, right? They have to stand up to their oppressors, even if it is futile because because you can't just let anyone walk over you. After all, that's how revolutions were started.
Elliot encourages understanding of the dynamics of racism by a socially dominant group on basis of race.I agree that most white people participating volunteerly are those who are more willing to admit and confront their racism (although she has taught in companies and classes aswell).I know that not all whites are (equally) racist.. about being constructive.. she indeed breaks down their self-image of non-racists to insert new knowledge about it.. that IS constructive
@BigTimeShowdown But she devalues her experiments by overtly bringing race into the issue. If she kept her experiments simply about eye-colour, they would be an excellent lesson in what it feels like to be victimised on the basis of an arbitrary characteristic, and very valuable.
She did that on the Oprah Winfrey show long ago. People didnt know it was about racism before they got at the studio. I think there would be very few volunteers if there was an excercise about eye-colour (who really cares about that?). An excercise about something as controversial as racism draws more attention so you have to be overt about the subject. I dont see how it devalues it. It is eye-opening for many white peopel because they think they know how it is (tummy-guy) >new experience.
@BigTimeShowdown But the moment she starts stereotyping white people she she devalues the whole exercise and turns it into an example of the very problem she purports to tackle - racism. You simply can't say "racism is terrible" and follow it up with "and every white person is racist whether they know it or not".
That might be just her point for a first. Second she doesnt say white people are intrinicly racist. She (at the end) says: you dont do these thngs because you are white but because you are ignorant". The point is, everage white people have another definition and picture of what racism is associating it with the KKK. Many of their behaviour however are racially motivated but so ingrained that they dont realise it is. That is what she means. They can only change that when they realise it.
@shadowkid1993 haha so true, but the point of the experiment was to show that most white people were the 'pain in the ass' back then and all black people had to deal with that 'pain in the ass' on a daily basis. they didn't have the choice to just leave the prejudice like that spoiled lil bitch.
It's good that the young woman got so upset. Hell, this is only a temporary experiment in a class that only lasts like an hour and a half. How would she feel if that was just the world she lived in? Not that people of color have to deal with this 24/7, but it happens more than what these students are experiencing. And in real life no one gets to walk out, tears or not.
@AngryGoyim You got to be joking. Treason based on what? And I dont know how you can say "against the American people. No trial. Period." Not having a trial is unamerican. You are obviously American to the point that you are satisfied. How about we stone and hang you for speaking unamerican.. How does that sound?? If you are going to be a smart ass then at least be a logical smartass.People need to open their eyes to the struggles and pains that non whites have to face.
@AngryGoyim Haha, how? By putting people that had the upper edge for generations in a place where they don't like to be so they can understand racism better?
The young black woman at the end is sooo right. These tender white folks get so easily upset about stuff that happened to non-whites all the time. So who is actually tougher and more resilient here, the whites or the non whites? I think the answer is clear.
@seacoastofbohemia I think the reason that they get upset is because so often they are called racist. Or maybe non-whites (as you like to call them), are so easy to pull the race card. This could be a way to defend themselves as to say "Hey, I'm not racist, look here I'm trying to be supportive". But all you can see is the color WHITE.
@seacoastofbohemia Oh come on. Elliott merely encourages reverse racism and division in society. I bet none of the white people who took part in this trial are racist (or they wouldn't be taking part).
Elliott's logic equates victimisation of one part of society by a small group in another part of society, to the victimisation of one part of society by ALL of another part (i.e. all whites), but the two things are NOT the same. Telling all whites they are racist is untrue and not constructive.
@youreaterpiknow ah but it does. Lots of misinformed YouTubers seem to have their own personal definition of racism, but when you stereotype on racial grounds it really doesn't matter whether you're talking about Whites, Blacks, Arabs or anything else, you are being racist by all accepted definitions of the term. People like Jane Elliott do much more to exacerbate the problem of racism than they do to mitigate it.
@seacoastofbohemia Um no because most people if they could would walk out that door. Just because black people didn't have a choice does not mean they are more resilient. They where more resilient because they felt they had to be. There is difference. Most people who have a choice take the best that they can get.
@xXxDANMANxXx I saw Mrs. Elliott yesterday and she is a very smart, strong woman. You are obviously ignorant and uneducated. You made yourself sound like a total ass.
@pacxman1167 "ignorant and uneducated" people on the internet these days thats all I hear people say to anyone anymore...relax bro take a chill pill and stop giving a fuck
@xXxDANMANxXx really is that your solution? stop giving a fuck? Why do you think you hear "ignorant and uneducated" so much?? Coincidence?? Have some empathy
@pacxman1167 its the internet lol that's all I gotta say you don't know me, I don't think anyone has ever said to me that I was ignorant or uneducated in real life...Coincidence?? Have some common sense
@xXxDANMANxXx I never said I knew you and I wouldnt want to... Your words say who you are... Yes this is the internet, is that your excuse? Your ignorant cuz "it's the internet".... It's called google.com buddy.. try it
This isn't about racism. Its about control of sheep by a tyrannical dictator. There is no racist component in this so called experiment. Dividing people by some arbitrary thing and have them become them and us is nothing to do with racism. Its a phenomena known as divide and conquer.
yoyo762 2 months ago
Nigger
bluehairman 2 months ago
If I were a member of that blue-eyed group, I'd scrunch up a piece of paper, throw it at the teacher and yell 'Rebellion!'
Because that's what the oppressed do, right? They have to stand up to their oppressors, even if it is futile because because you can't just let anyone walk over you. After all, that's how revolutions were started.
Lumosnight 7 months ago
Elliot encourages understanding of the dynamics of racism by a socially dominant group on basis of race.I agree that most white people participating volunteerly are those who are more willing to admit and confront their racism (although she has taught in companies and classes aswell).I know that not all whites are (equally) racist.. about being constructive.. she indeed breaks down their self-image of non-racists to insert new knowledge about it.. that IS constructive
BigTimeShowdown 10 months ago
@BigTimeShowdown But she devalues her experiments by overtly bringing race into the issue. If she kept her experiments simply about eye-colour, they would be an excellent lesson in what it feels like to be victimised on the basis of an arbitrary characteristic, and very valuable.
michael99887766 1 month ago
She did that on the Oprah Winfrey show long ago. People didnt know it was about racism before they got at the studio. I think there would be very few volunteers if there was an excercise about eye-colour (who really cares about that?). An excercise about something as controversial as racism draws more attention so you have to be overt about the subject. I dont see how it devalues it. It is eye-opening for many white peopel because they think they know how it is (tummy-guy) >new experience.
BigTimeShowdown 1 month ago
@BigTimeShowdown But the moment she starts stereotyping white people she she devalues the whole exercise and turns it into an example of the very problem she purports to tackle - racism. You simply can't say "racism is terrible" and follow it up with "and every white person is racist whether they know it or not".
michael99887766 1 month ago
That might be just her point for a first. Second she doesnt say white people are intrinicly racist. She (at the end) says: you dont do these thngs because you are white but because you are ignorant". The point is, everage white people have another definition and picture of what racism is associating it with the KKK. Many of their behaviour however are racially motivated but so ingrained that they dont realise it is. That is what she means. They can only change that when they realise it.
BigTimeShowdown 1 month ago
Just saw her at my college this week. She gets "it". Racism will never go away. I loved her blunt no bullshit style. And yes I am black.
existenz65 11 months ago
that old hag looks like she's a real pain in the ass
shadowkid1993 11 months ago
@shadowkid1993 haha so true, but the point of the experiment was to show that most white people were the 'pain in the ass' back then and all black people had to deal with that 'pain in the ass' on a daily basis. they didn't have the choice to just leave the prejudice like that spoiled lil bitch.
g00dm00sic 10 months ago
It's good that the young woman got so upset. Hell, this is only a temporary experiment in a class that only lasts like an hour and a half. How would she feel if that was just the world she lived in? Not that people of color have to deal with this 24/7, but it happens more than what these students are experiencing. And in real life no one gets to walk out, tears or not.
lookatdoor 11 months ago
@AngryGoyim You got to be joking. Treason based on what? And I dont know how you can say "against the American people. No trial. Period." Not having a trial is unamerican. You are obviously American to the point that you are satisfied. How about we stone and hang you for speaking unamerican.. How does that sound?? If you are going to be a smart ass then at least be a logical smartass.People need to open their eyes to the struggles and pains that non whites have to face.
pacxman1167 11 months ago
@AngryGoyim Haha, how? By putting people that had the upper edge for generations in a place where they don't like to be so they can understand racism better?
MultiAREE 1 year ago
Where can I watch the full documentary?
ikutsu2001 1 year ago
In the end the only thing diversity delivers is NO diversity.
EAU2007 2 years ago
The young black woman at the end is sooo right. These tender white folks get so easily upset about stuff that happened to non-whites all the time. So who is actually tougher and more resilient here, the whites or the non whites? I think the answer is clear.
seacoastofbohemia 2 years ago 18
@seacoastofbohemia I think the reason that they get upset is because so often they are called racist. Or maybe non-whites (as you like to call them), are so easy to pull the race card. This could be a way to defend themselves as to say "Hey, I'm not racist, look here I'm trying to be supportive". But all you can see is the color WHITE.
B1kMagik 1 year ago
@seacoastofbohemia Oh come on. Elliott merely encourages reverse racism and division in society. I bet none of the white people who took part in this trial are racist (or they wouldn't be taking part).
Elliott's logic equates victimisation of one part of society by a small group in another part of society, to the victimisation of one part of society by ALL of another part (i.e. all whites), but the two things are NOT the same. Telling all whites they are racist is untrue and not constructive.
michael99887766 10 months ago 3
@seacoastofbohemia "these tender white folks..."
Racism works both ways...
michael99887766 10 months ago 5
@michael99887766 lmaooo clearly you're missing the point! And racism does NOT work both ways. UNDERSTAND THE POINT!!!!!!
youreaterpiknow 1 month ago
@youreaterpiknow ah but it does. Lots of misinformed YouTubers seem to have their own personal definition of racism, but when you stereotype on racial grounds it really doesn't matter whether you're talking about Whites, Blacks, Arabs or anything else, you are being racist by all accepted definitions of the term. People like Jane Elliott do much more to exacerbate the problem of racism than they do to mitigate it.
michael99887766 1 month ago
@seacoastofbohemia Um no because most people if they could would walk out that door. Just because black people didn't have a choice does not mean they are more resilient. They where more resilient because they felt they had to be. There is difference. Most people who have a choice take the best that they can get.
DMalenfant1 8 months ago 2
BULLSHIT hahaha we saw this in english i just about died laughing so damn hard hahahahahha
xXxDANMANxXx 2 years ago
@xXxDanmanxXx
It seems that you´re easy to entertain, bone head !
Ytta13 2 years ago 3
@xXxDANMANxXx I saw Mrs. Elliott yesterday and she is a very smart, strong woman. You are obviously ignorant and uneducated. You made yourself sound like a total ass.
pacxman1167 11 months ago
@pacxman1167 "ignorant and uneducated" people on the internet these days thats all I hear people say to anyone anymore...relax bro take a chill pill and stop giving a fuck
xXxDANMANxXx 11 months ago
@xXxDANMANxXx really is that your solution? stop giving a fuck? Why do you think you hear "ignorant and uneducated" so much?? Coincidence?? Have some empathy
pacxman1167 11 months ago
@pacxman1167 its the internet lol that's all I gotta say you don't know me, I don't think anyone has ever said to me that I was ignorant or uneducated in real life...Coincidence?? Have some common sense
xXxDANMANxXx 11 months ago
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@xXxDANMANxXx I never said I knew you and I wouldnt want to... Your words say who you are... Yes this is the internet, is that your excuse? Your ignorant cuz "it's the internet".... It's called google.com buddy.. try it
pacxman1167 11 months ago