(was) The Fastest Double Bass on Youtube 1 minute: 290 bpm

[BurnThePope0514]

I thought by your bragging that you would have produced a louder hut then that. But I will say that's some fucking beautiful heal toe

[Dreammotive]

@BurnThePope0514 You will never find me bragging about power or even being a good drummer. All I ever claimed was speed.

[Neplock]

wait this isnt RLRLRLRL does it HAVE to be RLRLRLRL to be single strokes?

[Dreammotive]

@Neplock Yes, the stroke pattern is what defines it as single strokes and also defines the record. RLRLRLRL is single strokes and that is the pattern being demonstrated here.

[Neplock]

@Dreammotive one more question are you using (R)heel (L)heel (R)toe (L)toe? or (R)heel (R)toe (L)heel (R)toe? and do they accept this technique in the WFD?

[Dreammotive]

@Neplock Its R heel, L heel, R toe, L toe. I have requested information numerous times from WFD about upcoming tournaments and rules and regulations but they never respond to any inquiries so I cant answer that question. But as far as i know the Guinness book of world records would accept this. I did some research into it, but doesnt matter since this record has been far surpassed now and i cant even play this fast anymore

[Neplock]

@Dreammotive ok thank you for answering my questions =) 

[ItalianAvalanche]

dude honestly... this is so lame. I'm not gonna tell you what you should or shouldn't do, I'm just gonna say that I think this is like the lamest thing ever and I do not respect musicianship of this sort. In fact, I don't even like calling it musicianship.

[Dreammotive]

@ItalianAvalanche Really? This is the lamest thing you've ever seen? So if I sat around watching reality TV every day of my life i would be less lame? You just dont have the mind of a competitor or you would see that the point of this is competition and has nothing to do with music so you are wrong to call it musicianship. I have a video which displays these skills in a useful musical setting. Lame=not pursuing excellence at any particular thing but settling for mediocrity

[BodomBlastBeats]

wow..press your feet harder..it would sound so bad if you play on normal drumand only this dont makes u to the best drummerss :D:D

[guitarman3190]

bass drums go boom boom boom....not tap tap tap :)

[Dreammotive]

@guitarman3190 For a bass drum to boom you have to let it ring. My beats are faster than the actual tone of the drum so the next hit cancels out the vibration

[SaludaUser]

if im correct theres a guy who did like 1200+ not trigger tapping either.

[Dreammotive]

@SaludaUser you are correct. thats why i changed the name of this video to "was" the fastest. he is on youtube. But another guy came out more recently and blew all of our minds with a score of over 1500. His name is drumrival on youtube. Of course all of this is tapping, because no one gets past 1,100 without doing so. So you may not appreciate it.

[F990]

Music can be anything you want it to be, whether it's all speed or not. If people enjoy it, it is what it is. It's good to learn to play fast anyway. If you can play fast, that means you have good stamina and control. That translates to slower playing. If have a lot of control while playing fast, then playing slower should also become easier. Also, if you practice playing fast, you will eventually gain more power and confidence in your slower tempos.

[shadowlorde]

cool that you can play that fast ... but no one will hear that in a live setting .. just saying...

[Dreammotive]

@shadowlorde they would if I used mics and/or triggers the same way every other metal or rock band does. No one uses unmiked/triggered drums for live shows anywhere except for jazz. And even then mics are commonplace

[shadowlorde]

@Dreammotive u would barely hear it with mics .. triggers with a really crazy sensitivity setting .. yes .. looks like the beaters come back less than 1/2 inch .. how much stuff do you have inside ur bass drum? an entire quilt? i don't think id be heard unless you had triggers .. i can't hit those speeds and not in any way saying it's easy .. but where's the music? it sounds like a lawnmower engine .. what would you do over that .. blast? skank? or play something hoglan or flyn would

[shadowlorde]

@shadowlorde

just kinda saying .. happy you reached what you wanted to .. but .. now .. make music with it ... speed for brutality's sake gets boring REALLY fast if there's no creativity behind it. but it is personal preference. I'll take iced earth and death over a band like necrophagist or nile any day .. even though I think kollias is a god ... it kinda becomes (to me) .. ok .. you can play 1billion bpm ... i get it .. you can write music any time now.

[Dreammotive]

@shadowlorde The beater distance is not the only thing that determines volume. You can set the rebound high and get loads of volume from a short stroke or set the rebound to nothing and get very light touch with large strokes. The drum is stuffed in order to make the counter accurate. It would be removed for performance which would also make it louder. Where's the music? Check out my contra remix video. I would love to use speeds like this over extreme breakdowns. looking for a band.

[shadowlorde]

@Dreammotive i got ya .. just saying .. seems like ppl put too much emphasis on speed lately ... like it's the only thing that matters and that annoys me .. just as much as ppl with no technique who are praised as gods... there's a balance .. sometimes it seems too many people do nothing but practice to be faster but forget to practice everything else... don't try to be musical. don't do anything but spend months developind the speed of a single of double stroke roll.. and to me that not music

[shadowlorde]

@shadowlorde there's so much to lear as far as dumming is concerned .. like .. do u practice rudiments ... 4 limb independance .... or do u just spend all ur time on getting ur feet faster the groove to fool in the rain by led zep is KILLER ... all the pop (bs) pop bands now are playing half that .. for example nickleback .. think ANYTHINg they do takes practice? shit , any drummer worth his sticks could play that in a coma,, it's how many diff styles u can play not the speed of ur feet

[Dreammotive]

@shadowlorde but thats just your preference. You appreciate several different styles above speed chops but I don't as much. If i did I would have learned several styles instead of extensive speed techniques. I agree that Nile is boring. I would never listen to a band just because their drummer has fast feet. Ok I would, but only once. But I love to hear it in the midst of creative and emotional music and when that happens its bliss to me.

[shadowlorde]

@Dreammotive I really have to stop going on youtube after a few too many ... anyway .. yea .. I want my feet faster.. but I let it come through practicing other things. I have a short attention span and listening to the clicking of a metranome for hours as it blasts away at 300 or w/e would drive me beyond insane.

[Dreammotive]

@shadowlorde In a way i disagree. I think music is as varied as those who take part in it, Some will focus all their attention on speed. And their music will sound good to those who love to hear fast beats. I for 1 love the sound of very fast double bass, that is why ive trained to be able to do it myself. Others focus on good timing, coordination, or style. It just depends on what you want to get out of your music. there only a few greats who can master all areas of drumming

[Anarchyffan]

that's pretty fast, but I think George Kollias has you beat lol...

[Dreammotive]

George definitely has me beat: World famous, excellent all around drummer, a huge fan following and a great career in music. I've got none of that but the one thing i do have is the right to say I can kick his butt in sheer foot speed alone. He has never demonstrated publicly or in any recording speed as fast as this, or especially my other video "worlds 2nd fastest drummer" where i had a better score

[Anarchyffan]

@Dreammotive True, true.

[GTAtomten]

Does Heel-toe single strokes mean your doing Right heel, left heel, right toe, left toe? Thanks!

[Dreammotive]

That is correct!

[GTAtomten]

@Dreammotive Thanks again then. i can do this on floors and such but it wont work on my drumkit. but that is probably because of my pedals...

[Dreammotive]

Yea, it probably wont work without longboards of some kind. If u have long boards and still cant get it to work, concentrate hard on getting the pedal settings right. You need a very light touch and sit pretty far back from the pedals.

[dappomb6523]

Everyone can easilly see how hard and steady your practice is. Tho heel-toe is heel-toe, I mean, No one don't call Front crawl Butterfly stroke. I don't mean to give disrespect to your practice tho.

[Dreammotive]

Right, and the correct term for this stroke is a heel toe single stroke.

[PissoDeStrisso]

ahahahaha!

[darknature79]

i would like to see someone do this with a pair of pedals that are set up to play not set up to do this with the beaters all the way up to the head and the feet rest all the way to the floor then i would be impressed

[jonsenger]

sorry man rocking your feet back and forth is heel toe, you definitly fast but i think you might be misunderstanding what the wfd definition of "singles strokes" is. if your heel and toe touch the pedal no matter in what order its considered a heel toe or double stroke.

[Dreammotive]

Oh, I know this is heel-toe. But it is still a single stroke when you line it up to the centuries old standards of rudiments. Whether WFD knows what a single stroke is or not isnt my call. But the fact still remains that this was the fastest single stroke roll on bass drum on youtube at the time of its posting. If you look at my info it explains that wfd does not allow "compound" single stroke techniques. The confusion is that WFD's rules differ from the real world.

[jonsenger]

ahhhh ok ok if you say single stroke roll it makes more sense. the only reason i cited the wfd is because your using a drumometer which is used primarily in the wfd, and cited tim waterson a former winner of the fastest feet. so naturally i thought you were going by their rules, my mistake.

[Dreammotive]

I use a drumometer because its the only thing available that proves foot speed. I cite Tim Waterson because he is a record holder regardless of WFD. He has done a few records at home and posted them on youtube as records.I also cite Steve Hill who has never done WFD but has the highest score on youtube or anywhere else i can find so i consider him to have the world record. I include all the world in the contest, including wfd players.

[DagonMetalMusic]

I wanted to ask, have you ever recorded your kick drum with triggers? would be really cool to HEAR what's going on... for now it's just a hum...

[Dreammotive]

Yeah, if you look at my videos you will see one called "worlds 2nd fastest drummer" and "dreammotive from zero to 200 in 10 seconds" Both use triggers and the beats are easier to identify.

[DagonMetalMusic]

Dreammotive, how did you get to a point of doing heel toe but doing Heel heel toe toe? I just do regular heel toe...

[Dreammotive]

Yeah man, I started with heel-toe in the regular fashion, practiced it for years and years and hit a plateau at about 220 bpm. Then 1 day by complete accident I realized i could play 8ths at like 260 bpm on each foot seperately using a continuous rocking motion. So it was an obvious technical transition for me at that point. I spent half of last year learning to coordinate the two sides into a smooth roll. Takes a bit of coordination. Its still a little choppy but im working it out.

[DagonMetalMusic]

Shit. Interesting, At the moment I have peaked 240bpm on regular heel toe but I've done it for 4months now. I'm most comfortable at 230, I've tried to work out your technique slowly... i'm using pearl px1000's single chain, really shitty pedals but here in south africa axis is not readily available... interesting technique you have.

[Dreammotive]

Yeah, sorry you have to work with crappy pedals. I could not do this technique without longboards. I think you need axis, demon drive, or trick longboards to do it. Maybe try looking on ebay for a set of used axis pedals, and offer to pay the dealer extra to ship to Africa. Pedal adjustments are very important to be able to play this too.

[Beckerdimebag]

Those are not singles.

[Dreammotive]

Beckerdimebag wants to challenge the centuries old standards of rudimental terminology that are accepted at every accredited percussion teaching institute in the world. Good luck with that one. Let me know what the new name for RLRLRLRL drum rolls is if you succeed.I dont want to be incorrect.

[FutileExistence]

this isn't 290 bpm... it was but you slowed down. It is an average of 282.5 bpm

[Dreammotive]

Thats not exactly right. The metro is going precisely at 290 bpm. And there are parts where I lagged behind the beat but if listen closely I catch back up. But you may ask, why did i not score 1,160, which following a beat of 290 bpm would achieve. The answer is not slow down, but flamming. The drumometer counts 2 beats hitting at the same time as 1 point. I actually watched this video in slow motion to be sure of this. Watch "thelinearpractiseday" you see he kicks my butt because he doesnt flam

[FutileExistence]

I think that you can catch up with Steve if you practice your technique and finally reach 1,200 hits a minute.

"And there are parts where I lagged behind the beat but if listen closely I catch back up."

So that means you slowed down??? That's what it seems like but I said you did an AVERAGE of 282.5 bpm due to the amount of hits you did @ 16ths (semiquavers)

[Dreammotive]

Yeah, I could beat Steve if i keep training hard, and he could beat be back if he chose to train harder. Whoever trains the most devoutly wins in the end.

Yeah I slowed down, but caught back up when i realized i was lagging, which means I actually went faster than 290 for a moment to catch back up. So the average is still 290. I hit the drum 1,157 times: I counted every beat. The problem is i flammed 27 of those hits or they were too weak to register.

[FutileExistence]

So you guys are indeed rivals!!!

"which means I actually went faster than 290 for a moment to catch back up."

Yup! This always happens on one minute runs with Tim Waterson...

[Dreammotive]

Well I wouldn't call it rivalry. We're actually about as good friends as you can be through youtube alone. We've had many a friendly discussion. But I'm pretty sure it was my score of 1,163 that pushed Steve to make sure and claim the title of 1st to break 1,200 before i got to it.

[FutileExistence]

Not the bad kind of rivalry but the friendly kind in which both of you support each other to pass each other!!! I know you guys are friends... BTW, what's your full name???

[Dreammotive]

Yes, that's the kind of rivalry. My full name. Hmmm, im not sure i want to post that for all to see on youtube. Just a safety precaution. Ask me in private and I will let you know.

[FutileExistence]

I see what you mean... but I don´t think its safe to give out Steve´s full name, I just wanna know who you are cause you have potential and could become famous like Tim Waterson or Mike Mallias... message me.

[net200777]

As a drummer, you cant slam a technique. Learn all the techniques, and you will be better at all techniques. If you want to learn how to play fast singles, you gotta be able to play a fast double >;)

[JkITZD]

It's funny how people can't get this through their thick-plated skulls--r-heel, l-heel, r-toe, l-toe-- rlrl, which technically DOES constitute as being singles. Fucking awesome man, great job!!!

[Danfy13]

PPPPFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF­FFFF..go to study please

[Dreammotive]

What do i need to study?

[monkeydrummer44]

lame... lame.... lame.... who gives a shit how fast you can go with 2 inches of give on the beaters. triggers and this shit is the in the same category as rock band.. good job i bet your a badass drummer but c'mon people this isnt drumming its a fuckin popularity contest

[Dreammotive]

Don't forget to go slam Art Verdi and Mike Mangini too. I'm sure they did their speed runs to win the popularity contest too. There are lots of people that care about this stuff and they need examples of performances to know whats worth learning and how to learn it.

[danmarcelino]

hmmm, i thought it said fastest "SINGLE" strokes? that looks like heel toe doubles to me, o well still wayyyyyyyyy faster than i can play haha

[Dreammotive]

Yep, they're singles. r-heel,l-heel,r-toe,l-toe = RLRLRLRL...

[danmarcelino]

if you're doing heel toe, thats doubles dude, like think of it this way, could you play it that fast just with your toes? or just with ur heels? if you're doing heel toe, they're doubles.

[Dreammotive]

I must disagree because if you look up the rudiments in any standard form like NARD or PASIC it defines single strokes as RLRLRLRL and double strokes as RRLLRRLL.

So it all depends on the pattern, not which parts of the hand or foot is playing the beats. I'm just going by the 100 year old established standards, that's all.

[danmarcelino]

well i wanna see you go that same speed by doing it with just your toes.. i dont think you can, but hey, maybe you can! so you're saying that i could do a single stroke snare roll by doing doubles with my hands but just changing the order?!?!?

lol

[Dreammotive]

No, can't do it with my toes, though I've actually tried! You got to try everything to see what works. I tried a little bit to work on a double stroke where you play with the foot and then bend your toes down for the 2nd stroke. It actually worked decently! And yes, that would be a single stroke if you play in the correct order and make the beats evenly spaced through the continuation of the roll. Buddy Rich, Jojo Mayer are famous for that exact thing (with hands)

[Dreammotive]

Actually, when i think about it Buddy and Jojo do the same thing with their feet and gained some of their fame through that too. Just with one foot at a time instead of 2 like me.

[danmarcelino]

well Jo even says he's doin doubles and triples and even quads when he does it, but they aint singles! but w/e bro, you got mad skills just doin this alone so my hats off to you man =]

[Dreammotive]

Yeah he's talking about the number of beats before switching to another limb. There's all types of rudiments that require triple, quad strokes, etc. But if the pattern is RLRL it is a single stroke. When Jojo says triple he means RRR LLL, quad would be RRRR LLLL. Maybe they call them by different names these days but Im just going by the decades old standardized NARD rudiment chart for terminology.

[Dreammotive]

I mean PAS, PASIC is the convention, not the society

[seanlame]

Impressive, but as George Kollias says, "This is not drumming."

Still better than I can do!

[Dreammotive]

I think George says that because after all his years of training he can still look around and find drummers playing faster with their feet than him so he calls it tapping to feel better about that. No doubt he's incredible on drums though.

[DagonMetalMusic]

HAHAHAHA!!! Dude speed means fuck all when you have no power or consistency! HOW DARE YOU BLASPHEME AGAINST GEORGE! He hits 280 with a beater stroke motion of about 4 inches. if he was tapping he'd double your speeds xD

[Dreammotive]

Well what I said is true, everybody wants more speed. If George could play faster by using a smaller motion Im sure he would but I doubt he can. I can certainly play with more power and consistency too if i slow it down to 280.

[FutileExistence]

No... I find that blasphemy. Its not that they can play faster than him, its the fact that they are TAPPING, while his beaters go MILES back!!! He could probably go faster if he did tapping...

[dbpjake]

well done getting that many beats, but to be honest, what is the point in this?? never gunna be used in any drumming in any song, especially as it is uneven as hell !!!!

[Dreammotive]

The point is that if I push myself to get these high scores I will find that if I back off on the tempo somewhat I can play quite evenly at really fast speeds so it serves to train you very well for musical applications. Of course I couldn't play this fast evenly for a minute but I can play faster for a shorter period of time evenly because Ive trained for this and that sounds gorgeous to me which is why I went after learning this.

[Gilleece666]

Fair play to you man.

Or should I say, FIAR PLAY :P

[F990]

I can't play that fast :)

plus, I don't think they're unfair, but doubles on the feet aren't for me, but if they work for you, by all means use thems =0

[Dreammotive]

Well it's not actually doubles but rather an alteration of the pump single stroke roll that Tim Waterson teaches in his video. You just take the same motion but place the whole foot a the front of the pedal instead of the back. If you have some axis longboards, you can do it to. It just takes practice.

[F990]

awesome, but NOT FIAR!

[Dreammotive]

what isn't fiar about it?

[MusicianWil]

this is insane......

[FastHands1504]

You have the most power I've aver seen LMFAO GAY

[Dreammotive]

Check the title, it says fastest double bass, not most powerful. How fast are your hands, fasthands? Any videos up?

[FastHands1504]

I dont care how fast you can twitch your feet if there's no power...theres no point...and no im currently working on uping my speed

[Dreammotive]

I disagree, there's plenty of room in the musical world for light taps, and players of all instruments can utilize fast runs with great power or a light touch effectively in certain situations. And again this is a speed demonstration not power, so you're against me for not having something that I never claimed to have.

[delicatedeath]

You're a wanker.

[FutileExistence]

"and no im currently working on uping my speed"

then you have no right to bash on dreammotive...

[FastHands1504]

..........No Power...No Feeling...No Point...The only thing this is showing me is how fast he can swivel his feet back and forth I do have a right because I'm working with power...I want someone in a stadium to hear my stokes on a pad from the other side...This technique if you can call it that is crap...

[Dreammotive]

What we're really talking about is the basics of physics and energy. The human leg is limited in both its power output and its ability to replicate a motion at any speed. Pulling energy from one source and applying it to another is the principal at work here. So yes, it is TAPPING into the power that would have been spent on volume, and applying it to speed. One must always subtract energy from the other so that neither can always be at maximum. Now, then, there is nothing more to argue about.

[FastHands1504]

At least an explanation...Thank you

[FutileExistence]

Yes... but the point of this video is about SPEED. Now there is no doubt that a person could hit FAST AND HARD but to go your FASTEST you must minimalize your power and beater distance.

[snowflakeeel]

great job dude! that's rediculous!

[karlculator]

How come the title says 290 BPM? I thought BPM meant beats per minute and this is clearly over that

[Dreammotive]

Yeah there is some confusion over terminology with bpm. it says 290 because that is where the metronome was set and what i was listening to to keep pace. I was playing 16th notes at that tempo which over a minute adds up to 1,160 beats in a minute. 290 = number of quarter notes and 1,160 is the number of 16th notes. I didnt quite get 1,160 because i missed some the notes i was supposed to get. Ill check out that song and try to get the speed count for you. no metronome with me right now though

[sick898]

this strokes per minute.

[karlculator]

Does anyone know how fast exactly (like beats per minute) the double bass drumming at the end of My Fears Have Become Phobias by As Blood Runs Black is, coz thats damn fast

[FastHands1504]

exactally this

[iUnTrUe]

how do you heel toe so well

[Dreammotive]

There are many factors: throne height and distance, pedal settings and spacing all have to be specific to your leg length and foot size. Its a very delicate technique.

[lordblast90]

wow thats pretty amazing! im not really a fan of tapping but damn, you have worked hard on it!

[monstermosher666]

great speed but your technique is kinda sloppy

[Dreammotive]

i know what you mean, and when it's cleaned up the score goes up to. This wouldn't sound good with music because it needs cleaning up. But that's my next step. I can see clearly that I'm going to have to clean up in order to beat Steve Hill's new record of 1,149

[MrAdAbsurdum]

the description says single strokes dude.. what up with that??? just a little confused?? looks like youre doing heel toe

[Dreammotive]

Yeah, I understand the confusion because heel-toe is almost always used as double strokes.That's how I practiced for years too until I found out I could play faster converting it to a single stroke. The pattern is R-heel,L-heel,

R-toe,L-toe so the beaters are continuously RLRLRLRL. So it is termed a single stroke based on the guidelines of NARD and PAS.

[MrAdAbsurdum]

that s what confused me cuz i didnt know that interlinking thestrokes would technically count as single strokes, ive done that before, but i didnt know that it would count as singles

[Dreammotive]

Well that's just how I learned it in music school and that's how the official organizations appear to define it. I'm willing to listen to any arguments as to why it should be called double strokes. I think the important differentiation is whether you use a continuously steady pattern (singles) or a quick set of two beats (doubles) followed by a quick two on the other limb. you can do triples, quads, etc. It's just defining how many beats you play before using the other foot.

[MrAdAbsurdum]

well yeah its how many notes you do in succession with each foot, doubles are two, two, two, two... i was thinking they went by how many hits are in each stroke as in it doesnt matter if they are i seccession they are just done with one kick of the foot with a certain technique.. i learned something today, pretty cool

[WarcraftG4mer]

o_O  nice

[johnny50fukin]

amazing, well done

[greivv]

lol @ u

[Dreammotive]

I never knew speed drumming was so funny but if it makes you laugh then I'm glad for you.

[ImaginaryHuman072889]

i dont know how this video got such a bad rating. nice job!

[Dreammotive]

Thank you, a bunch of guys ganged up on me and decided to drag me down so they gave me low ratings and mean comments. I deleted their comments. please rate to help bring it back to where it should be.

[greivv]

sorry, but this is pure crap.

[Dreammotive]

on what facts are you basing your disbelief?

[chiefindianlung]

my little brother farts into his hand and then holds it over his nose and smells it, he really likes it. Its called a gas mask. u should try it!

[rigorouswolf]

thats fast only cuz of heel toe

it sounds like garbage

[Dreammotive]

I'm working on making it sound better. Maybe next time.

[Dreammotive]

also in this video Im making no effort whatsoever towards making a good sound, just setting a high score. It sounds better when im actually playing music with it.

[Lmkt]

Do you have a vid of you playing with a real kick sound? I mean, triggered sound but something musical of you playing like with your band or w/e

[Dreammotive]

Not yet I just started doing youtube a couple weeks ago but I definitely plan on putting up some real music not too far from now. I don't have a band right now either so it will be playing with a pre-recorded track or something

[crazyn90]

you make it look effortless, what brand of pedals do you use?

oh, and i have just started drumming... only been playing for about 5 months now. if you would, check out my videos. thank you.

[Dreammotive]

Thank you! You're actually hitting on one of the secrets to fast playing, learn to maintain a relaxed movement. If it doesn't look easy you're probably not doing it with the best technique. Those are axis-a pedals with longboards and gibraltar light-weight beaters. Ok, Ill take a look at those videos.

[Dreammotive]

Due to excessive harassment, comments must now be approved. Any comments will be accepted if they are respectful critiques, or questions about subject matter related to the content of the video.

[jacobkbuxton]

very cool,Daniel,Awesome job!!

[incadanceinperu]

It says you counted the strokes yourself to make sure the machine didn't double trigger. Are you claiming you did that with your own eyes? You know that can't be accurate even if slowed by 30%. I think the deal was that a famous drummer once tried to cheat on one of these bass drum youtubes so that's why the runs have to be done in front of nonbiased refs. I think you should do that. I wish they would stop these bd runs anyway until they become more accurate.

[Dreammotive]

Yes, I counted the beats one at a time. You're right, Even at 30% this would be too fast to count. It had to be reviewed one frame at a time and took quite a while. I am very anxious to get in front of an official and prove this stuff. Please let me know if you are aware of any upcoming opportunities. I've heard the rumors about Lord Marco. I never saw that video. That's a terrible shame if he really did cheat.

[bumdrill2]

1. I don't believe in a million years that you counted 1 frame at a time.

2. Lord Marco didn't try to cheat at all. He just posted a mistriggered drumometer score and claimed it was real. Then when people tried to explain it to him he said everybody was crazy then went to a WFD and got humiliated. Sound familiar?

I don't think Marco was the famous drummer they were talking about. I've heard the rumors and its somebody very famous.

[Dreammotive]

1. I didn't count one frame at a time. I progressed the video one frame at a time while I counted each stroke. You put it in Final Cut and then hit the arrow key and it moves forward 1 frame at a time. So the video progresses at the speed that you are pressing the arrow key.

2. Please tell: who was the famous drummer, and his score?

3. Are you implying that I did not hit the bass drum 1,130?

times in one minute?

[SlayerFan1993]

I thought Marco's trigger at the WFD mis-triggered and got a substantially lower count than he actually did (trains).

[ankaradowns]

Marco just was slower than he thought when he went to the WFD but he was a stand up man and admitted it. That mis trigger story is an urban legend. If the story were true then why was there not a mistrigger for anyone else? Thumbs up to Marco for saying it right. I always thought he was just distracted that day and didn't put in the time like he should. All things happen at comps which makes Dreammotive's bragging pretty unbelievable. You know if his scores were lower he'd never believe it.

[SlayerFan1993]

Well, at least he's as fast as he once thought he was now (trains).

[Dreammotive]

I'm not sure how WFD runs their contest so I don't know how I might score. After people started saying I was double triggering that's when i made the extra effort to be sure and counted every beat for accuracy. So there's no question that the number of beats are accurate. I've been hearing that my technique is not allowed at WFD so I may never get to go anyway.

[mikemangini1203]

This guy looks real good. It's too bad that he goes after anyone he even questions him though. Guiness will never accept this or any record unless it's done in person. According to these things he's been writing all over the place he refuses to do that. Mostly I think this is a case of somebody going too far with a Drumometer and forgetting that it was made as a tool to improve over all drumming. Please post some of your real drumming too Ok?

[Dreammotive]

I try my best to answer any objections honestly and respectfully. I give the same respect that I am shown. I am doing paper work for Guiness right now and I am looking forward to performing for them. I'd love to go to WFD to if I knew the pedal settings were close to mine. I don't want to spend $300 on gas and hotel to find out that my technique is incompatible with the settings. I've been trying to contact WFD about their standard rules but they don't respond. Real drumming coming with time.

[thelinearpractiseday]

DANIEL!!! You did it !!!!!! Incredible!!!!! Man!!! What a way to end the weekend!!!!! Now I can relax!!!!! Talk to you soon! Way to go!

Steve

[Dreammotive]

No you can't relax! You have to hit me back and raise the bar!!

[choirboy5000]

15 min run up next?!

[Dreammotive]

I had a request for a video of my one foot/one second record so that will be next. Everytime that I train I attempt a few one minute runs so if I ever have another amazing run that beats this score by a lot I will post it. Im going to keep pushing the 1 minute event till a cross 1,200 one day. But yes, I will start making 15 min runs in the weeks to come. Thanks for watching.