I'm not sure I know your position anymore, or if i've confused you with someone else. Was it you that said one should keep an open mind to even the most ridiculous, already-proven, ideas, such as the earth being flat? Or are you with me, laughing at this guy who is living in 500 AD?
If you think there is a chance the world is flat, you simply don't deserve anyone's time. You're a troll, and trolls are useless, jobless, idiots who want nothing more from life than to argue about things they don't/couldn't possibly believe.
@acs197 a lot of modern science and technology is based on what we inherited from the medieval islamic scientists and researchers... your statement is oversimplified. you can't blame a religion for the idiocy of people (can you blame all of christianity for creationism?). but i'll stick to atheism just to be sure lol
Atheism is a religion in and of itself, much to the chagrin of atheists. Oh, and they are just as arrogant as christians. Don't know if there was a creator, don't care.
@lnorman79 He seems to be a troll. At least, that's what most of the people I've shown this vid to [all Muslims] think. That or he's being paid a shitload of money to bullshit :P
Then again, he may well be genuinely idiotic. we may never know...
haha a freaking ancient greek called eratosthenes more than two thounsand years ago discovered the circumference of the earth...............with two sticks!!!! hahah
Scientists do know how the Eye works and even have inventions that help your vision kinda of like the prescribed pair of glasses that you wear on your face. I do recommend you get lazik surgery though in the future but still sadly that does not correct your stupidity.
So if it isn't in the Koran it means nothing? That means Palestine should never exist because it is never recognised or mentioned in the Koran. By his own arguement his religion has made man mistakes in this manner. The Koran also says that the land of Israel belongs to the Jews... Looks like they better make up and ignore the plea of the Palestinian people. That's what the Koran says anyway!
Note: This comment doesn't represent my personal view just the view of the Koran. I'm not Muslim.
if only this old dude see my comment,,, then all illusion would show as an illusion to his eyes...
Dear old dude, the breadth of paradise is the same, coz we are portions of the One, blinded by our individuality and religious culture... if u meditate, then u would see, that the gates of Heaven, the paradise, lies within our own chests, limited by a human's sense of reality, we are the Earth, ONLY AIR SEPARATES US...
@SalmanAfzalWahla ahhhhahahahahahaha. I've flown around the world trust me it's not flat. That alone proves that the Bible and Qur'an are horrible sources of credible information. I can't believe in this day and age there are still people like you and the old guy around. Open your mind, observe, experience, and most of all learn from your own conclusions. Get out of the damn box your living in. The oldest form on population control/propoganda is religion. Do your research.
@chinhhhhh I still believe in Holy Qur'an, Holy Bible. You are believing on something which you've not seen with your very own eyes. "Earth is Spherical" "Sun is the center of solar system" "Earth revolves around it". These concepts got their roots in people's mind few centuries, few years ago, NASA is a government "baby" whom got established in 1958. To me you are a moron who believe in such things just because of "3D pictures". Congratulations! you are being victimized by NASA.
@SalmanAfzalWahla LOL really? So you've seen God/Allah with your own eyes? I have seen the moon and sun with my own eyes and they tell me thats a good chance that the earth is also round. Right... You are a fucking moron that believes in what people tell you that have no astrological credibility.
@SalmanAfzalWahla I am also in the US Air Force and I have seen the earth at a high altitude to know that it is round. I have flown all over the earth to know that it is round. Maybe you just havent experienced something called life. Good luck with that.
@SalmanAfzalWahla first of all NASA is not a government institution but an independent operation. secondly medieval muslim scientist already knew the earth is spherical (there even was an understanding of the concept of atoms and such..) but i guess the muslim world wants to go backwards so badly some like to forget they were at the peak of science and technology at one point in time. better look in the mirror before you call someone a moron
@ProfessorxVile AHAHAHAH omfg i am dying here....again with blaming the jews...being grumpy cause allah didnt show the muslims the correctness about the world first..he chose to show the "infidels" instead..lol fuck off
so every man woman and child looks up in the sky and sees round planets for themselves, the sun, the moon mars etc. Its undeniable they are round. But yet because some loonies say its flat they have to come up with any old crap to convince their brainwashed followers everything those loonies wrote is true, they just can't accept any of its wrong. Its amazing any of the old world thought the earth was flat tbh, surely don't need to travel around the world to work it out. 2+2=4 not 22 you loonie
This is all Zionist Jew-devil lies! He is actually telling us how all scientific discoveries of the last 200 years were contained in the Holy Koran....it's just that somehow infidels were able to find all of them before Allah's chosen Arabs. Again, it's the Jews' fault.
His final comment,"Anything that has no indication in the Koran is false."demonstrates not only the threat,but the ability of religion to cause unimaginable destruction and suffering to humankind.Our species won't survive if it can't let go of absolutes.Our ego's are so fragile,the lengths we go to defend the things we identify with,in this case the Koran,are absurd.It doesn't have to be religion,kids ruin friendships over PS3/Xbox debates,adults berate one another for liking a brand of car...
There is so many things going through my mind about this guy I don't know what to say. He is a complete idiot, and shouldn't have been allowed to reproduce.
Why did i click on this.. i knew it was bullshit but i was compelled to see what fucking idiots these people where, now I've given them an extra view. worst thing is that this was suggested on a link with Nassim Haramein a highly intellectual man.
No one said the sun is stationary. The entire galaxy is moving in space. However the earth itself is STILL orbiting the sun when the sun is moving. Learn physics. k? Thanks! (And btw - I'm a college student working on a degree in science. Not physics, but we still must take physics 201 and 202 for our degree)
He call himself a scientist, the diameter of the moon is about 3474km and the diameter of the sun is about 1391000km. Watching stuff like this will make people dumb and naive.
Poor man. Religion completely brainwashed him, as it continues to do to people today. Then again, it takes an easily-suggested personality to fall victim to this bollocks. While I won't deny modern science can be wrong, we can prove a great many things his 'ancient tomes' cannot.
@Hirotoro4692 Actually i've read up on some pretty plausible arguments that have to do with the questioning of what science is telling us about our solar system. This guy is bit messed up though, i sincerely doubt the earth is flat, i would need to take a shit load of LSD to believe something like that. Hollow earth theory, and the spiral theory are interesting though, might wanna check them out...
Are we seriously still having this debate in 2012??? I'm actually sort of amazed. I thought you could find just about anything on the net, but I truly had no idea...ha!
Im christian, and i have read the quran as well. I have to tell you christians out there if you are gonna take the the bible litteraly it says the earth rests on foundations, that it has 4 corners, that the sun and moon move in THEIR paths, and the god stretched out the firmiment and heavens ABOVE the earth indicating a directional face. And that the pits are BELOW. Im not advocating either i just had my own revalation as i watched this and decided to comment.
Ha ha ha ha What an IDIOT !! Hey if you believe this Moron I have a Beautifull Golden Bridge in San Fransisco that I would love to sell you . Stupid Arabs are so fucken Retarded it's fucken Embarrassing !! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
I love stupid people. They make the world go round. Its my new "scientific theory". if we kill all the stupid people the earth with stop rotating. Because some jackass wrote on youtube that stupid people make the world go round, and nothing that was written on youtube can be wrong!
One more comment, this video just makes me insanely frustrated.Total Solar eclipses don't happen because the moon is half the size of the sun, they happen because the moon is the exact right size and distance from the earth and sun to block the sun when it is alined between the sun and the earth.How does this genius explain the lunar cycle, since it's constantly proving that the earth is round? It's the reason the moon waxes and wanes, since the very "round" shadow of earth causes it to do so!!!
I don't care what religion a person believes in, I've met both wonderful people and complete assholes from every religious group out there. I'm glad I was born in a country that allows people to practice whatever religion they want to or none at all if they are so inclined. I do feel that there are problems with being dogmatic to the point of ignoring or omitting information, if it contradicts dogma, when that information is totally proven as much as anything can be proven.It's just ignorant.
The name of this video should be Iraqi religious person proves he believes his religion's dogma instead of observable, proven information.You can't call someone a"scientist" if they don't follow the scientific method,which has nothing to do with total faith in religious dogma and has everything to do with observing and quantifying processes, information and data, without personal bias, to come to conclusions about the nature of things and/or how things work. He is totally biased and also stupid.
I am a Christian, and I still accept plenty of scientific fact. But this is just really stupid. Past religious morals and other mythologies have tried to explain nature. Look at the Greeks. But when science comes in with new ideas, people love to shun them for the stupidest reason.
Lets say there's no more religion. I highly doubt war would end. or roses would start growing everywhere jus cause there is no religion. NO! mankind will find a different reason to fight. WHY? Because even though there is no religion. GREED. LUST, ENVY, HATE, JEALOUSY will still exist. There will just be less rules to follow. Have fun reasoning with that crowd. Atleast you can manipulate blind followers. I wonder what happens when a bunch of phychos with no belief in heaven or hell start an army
Islam is the first religion to give rights to animals and women. Many slaves were bought and freed by the rich muslim companions of prophet mohammed.PBUH Once a war torn nation Arabia was united as a result of islam spreading. It is not till later the evil of man took over again and caused many "Muslim" ( So called) men in power started to use religion as a tool to benefit politically and financially. Religion is a great tool to control the masses, But it is also a great tool to bring peace.
@HassassinPrime Lol "islam is the first religion to give rights to animals and women"....oh thats funny. Thats why till this day women are treated like shit in muslim countries. Stoning for adultery. Beaten or put in jail for not wearing a burka. Not aloud to leave the house without a Male family member with them. Fuck your funny XD
@tiger1chu stoning applies to both genders, actually. the burka is not a religious article of clothing. it's a cultural one. Islam stated women must cover their hair, It never said anything about faces. the burka was around long before Islam. they are allowed to leave the house, but not travel [because the majority of women aren't as capable of defending themselves, and thus need protection. and whose more trustworthy and dependable than a family member? less risk of betrayal]
All you religion haters you need to realize that as much as religion cause hate and conflict, it also brought great peace to the world. All religions guide you towards peace, and provide you with rules that has made mankind function and not self destruct, because without rules humans are capable of great evil. In arabia, before islam new born girls used to be considered a bad omen and buried alive. Animals were over worked, hundreds of idols were worshipped, slavery was common.
This guys a retard. I am muslim and i can tell u NO muslim believes the earth is flat. The verses he mentioned have nothing to do with it either. The quran actually describes the earth as the shape of an ostrich egg which is a sphere. If everyone was right we wouldnt have so many divisions in Islam. Ppl need to realize that not all muslims believe in the same thing. Jus like almost every other religion there are sects, and many different interpretations and different beliefs.
"This science is a heretic innovation that has no confirmation in the Koran". Mmm... the Koran must have full confirmation about optics (he is using spectacles) and telecommunications (he is talking in TV). And it might be a reasonable assumption, althought we can´t see it plainly in the video, that he owns a cell phone, drives a car, uses a PC , browses the Internet, travels by plane, uses antibiotics, etc.; and that the Koran also confirms the part of the science related with those aspects...
Wow, that's a very large Moon, I must say. Half the diameter of the Sun, huh? One would assume that the mass of the Moon would be around half of that of the Sun. If so, then how did the first astronauts who landed on the Moon survive the massively intense gravitational pull from the moon? They would be flattened on its surface like pancakes.
all religion makes people shut there brains down fact fact fact No evidence what-so- ever
yet they will debate , cherry picked facts What ever caused the fantastic universe that we live in was not a man made religious God, as or religions are trying to indotrinate us with
@Rogerlowrey2222 I'm a Christian, and I know how to spell "THEIR".
Why are you ignorant and arrogant atheists always being dicks? If I don't believe in the Tooth Fairy, I'm not gonna spend my life bitching about how other people believe in the tooth fairy and how stupid they are, and how they're trying to indoctrinate us into it.
Why fight so hard against something you don't even believe in? Oh right, atheism takes more blind faith and hate than any other religion.
@Grimblix Well my point proooooved i don't care how i spell it like all religious closed minds, you go straight to attack, go straight to rude and ignorant. You feel into my trap.
Never mind you God will teach you some manners, because what you give out you get back, so here is a smile
ok, i just have to say it.... this is terribly hurting my ears ... that idiot is arrogant, insulting all the scientist and is really pissing me off .... if the moon is half the size of the sun, and the earth is flat, just because its not mentioned in the kuran quran , however the fuck is called.... than fuck you man... this type of books bring wars because you and idiots like you, dont know how to fucking read!!!
Both is right. Sure the earth isn´t flat but if it is possible to watch the earth from the overdimensional surface of the universe the earth would look like flat. Just search flatlanders cals sagan or Dr Quantum Flatland. So both are right if changing the position of watching like every religion is right or wrong if watching it from the right or wrong position.
The bible and the koran speaks about same thing, in the bottom of all theres a creator a god but theres only diffrent details, an ppl have been killed just because of the details...so to hell whit religion.
its astonishes me how religion something that should be used to unite people, tears them apart from one another because of how strongly their beleifs can be, no single religion is right but then again no single religion is wrong. it makes my head hurt.
if you believe the earth is flat, then you must believe the universe doesn't exist. if the world is flat, does it have a drop off where you fall into oblivion? or does it continue to keep going forever? how can a grow man believe such things... How does gravity work then?! if i dug threw the earth i thought i'd find china, whats at the bottom then!? Satelites orbiting the earth kinda prove its round ;) same with the sun rising and setting in the exact same place everytime...
well i traveled around the world, and there was no end so... wait.... what if ?.... oh my god, the end of the earth is a portal to the other side, it must be :O
The man with the glasses actually is an atheist! an actual scientist who wants to prove the fallacies of the Kuran by explaining things in a direction so he won't look like a 'Heretic or a Blasphemous' in front of the traditional, muslim, closed-minded society...Through his claims that have been taken literally from the Kuran will approve the ambivalence of the book and make them think...He might not seem so stupid after all ;)
@Zack13IRQUSA funny you call the Muslim society closed minded, considering they helped develop philosophy, fathered modern medicine, chemistry, physics, astronomy and a whole host of other things.
This man used a quote from the Qur'an that never even mentions the state of Earth. it stated that Paradise was the width of the heavens and earth, referring to the fact that Paradise spans the width of the surface of the earth, plus millions of times that [hence, heavens; the universe]
If his ridiculous beliefs have to do with his religion, say no more. Religion is simply man-made fairy tales, so why WOULDN'T he believe this junk? Ugh, this far along in human existence and we still have religion, wow.
@BenDrinkinEsq His argument has nothing to do with religion. He uses irrelevant verses from the Qur'an to try and prove a fact, when the Qur'an itself doesn't support his claims in any way, shape or form.
As for Religion, believe it or not, some Qur'anic statements have not been discovered and proven by science until recently. Sure, it's healthy to be sceptical, to question statements and look for proof. But don't be so swift to condemn it because it's a religion and not science.
@RPGTKingpin So you're saying he's crazy, got it. I'm saying, anyone who believe is religion has a bit of crazy in them. Religion = fairy tales tho, you agree there, no?
@BenDrinkinEsq hardly. The stories told to us in religion are hard to believe, sure. outrageous in some cases, definitely. But couldn't the same be said of pioneers centuries, even millennia ago, that said one day men would fly across the planet like birds? They were definitely considered crazy. And yet here we are. See, open-mindedness is the key. take this man for instance. he closed his mind to science, and now refuses to even consider the possibility that Earth is round.
@RPGTKingpin Keeping an open mind to realistic thoughts is one thing, but to believe in fairy tales in another. Why are you arguing to keep an open mind to peter pan and santa claus? Pick your battles.
@BenDrinkinEsq again, 500 years ago [and even as recent as 200], the concept of a man flying at all, was a fairy tale that would incite mass ridicule towards any person who even hinted they believed it was possible. And yet, it came to pass.
@RPGTKingpin You are referring to a time when human beings knew very little about the world and how it works, and thus, explained things with religion. We have knowledge now, and can come to much better-informed conclusions. If you choose to ignore all the knowledge we have gathered, as human beings, that's your choice.
@BenDrinkinEsq never said I did. look at my profile. I don't think acknowledging the existence of dinosaurs fits into the stereotype you try to plaster me with :P
Like I said, I keep an open mind. Islam has said things refuted by science, but later confirmed. and this is a religion 1400 years old. the fact it went against the grain, and was later proven to be RIGHT, serves a convincing argument for its case. I am a sceptic myself, but I don't spit in the face of possibility.
@RPGTKingpin If we weren't talking about a guy who is saying the earth is flat, then yes, I'd say, "Keep an open mind." We are talking, in this instance, about a guy who arguing something that is proven. Clearly you are trolling, because this is ridiculous.
@BenDrinkinEsq "Keeping an open mind" is not the same as "believing in fairy tales".
Why? Because if one believes in fairy tales, then their mind has already closed. The whole idea of keeping an open mind means you consider the *possibility* of 'fairy tales' but you do not accept it as an absolute truth, for there are still many other possibility.
@BenDrinkinEsq ....I find it hard to believe you're the same person I was debating with a month ago. the rift in your maturity between then and now is almost beyond belief. Is this even the same person? or are you just using his account?
My arguments were logical and reasonable. If you choose not to accept them, that's your choice.
Also, as I stated, our last interaction was over a month ago. I had very much 'fucked off' until you decided to come back and insult me.
@BenDrinkinEsq I prefer to keep an open mind. Prevents me from denying something that may be true, simply because it's hard to believe. If history has taught me anything, it's to expect the unexpected.
@SirSamurbatsu quran says the earth is round and describes more planets than the 9 previously discovered.. this guy is a dumb shiaa faggot, i have really reached the conclusion that shiaa are the shiats here... they make up verses from the quran and they use other verses to their own liking.
you can hate religion all you want, you're a free man, but im just saying, this isnt what real islam is about
@SirSamurbatsu No this is why you hate stupid people, some religions knew long long time ago the way the universe works, example egypt, sumeria, baylon, maya.
@SirSamurbatsu that very line goes against Islamic doctrine itself :P
The Qur'an explicitly states that God hasn't revealed everything to us. some facts about reality are left for mankind to discover, and some will remain inexplainable regardless of how much we advance.
he should of gone to specsavers and then read the special theory of relativity and then he will know a flat object in a three dimensional space cant exist in the laws of physics
I believe nasa is not telling the truth about the dimensions and distance of the sun, but the earth is round, can tell by flying a plane :)
sumstuff46 5 hours ago
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I'm not sure I know your position anymore, or if i've confused you with someone else. Was it you that said one should keep an open mind to even the most ridiculous, already-proven, ideas, such as the earth being flat? Or are you with me, laughing at this guy who is living in 500 AD?
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If you think there is a chance the world is flat, you simply don't deserve anyone's time. You're a troll, and trolls are useless, jobless, idiots who want nothing more from life than to argue about things they don't/couldn't possibly believe.
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BenDrinkinEsq 15 hours ago
And to think, over a millenia ago, what is now Iraq was the center of knowledge and free thinking...and then Islam happened.
acs197 3 days ago
@acs197 a lot of modern science and technology is based on what we inherited from the medieval islamic scientists and researchers... your statement is oversimplified. you can't blame a religion for the idiocy of people (can you blame all of christianity for creationism?). but i'll stick to atheism just to be sure lol
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Atheism is a religion in and of itself, much to the chagrin of atheists. Oh, and they are just as arrogant as christians. Don't know if there was a creator, don't care.
BenDrinkinEsq 2 days ago
is this guy serious?
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lnorman79 3 days ago
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BenDrinkinEsq 2 days ago
@lnorman79 He seems to be a troll. At least, that's what most of the people I've shown this vid to [all Muslims] think. That or he's being paid a shitload of money to bullshit :P
Then again, he may well be genuinely idiotic. we may never know...
RPGTKingpin 21 hours ago
bible says earth has 4corners and is 6000yrs old no need to say more
mrlogicalman1 4 days ago 2
haha a freaking ancient greek called eratosthenes more than two thounsand years ago discovered the circumference of the earth...............with two sticks!!!! hahah
TheJunkalos 4 days ago
Oh god...people still believe this shit? What the holy fuck?
MrKevin486 5 days ago
Scientists do know how the Eye works and even have inventions that help your vision kinda of like the prescribed pair of glasses that you wear on your face. I do recommend you get lazik surgery though in the future but still sadly that does not correct your stupidity.
chinhhhhh 5 days ago
Then how did Magellan go around the world?
This only proves humanity's extreme stupidity.
Mocha2007andcoco 6 days ago
bible says earth is flat and has 4corners doesnt say one thing about space objects like pulsars, blackholes ect
mrlogicalman1 6 days ago
is this for real ?
57filter 1 week ago
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57filter 1 week ago
The old man is pwned by Science!
Lunhyver 1 week ago
So if it isn't in the Koran it means nothing? That means Palestine should never exist because it is never recognised or mentioned in the Koran. By his own arguement his religion has made man mistakes in this manner. The Koran also says that the land of Israel belongs to the Jews... Looks like they better make up and ignore the plea of the Palestinian people. That's what the Koran says anyway!
Note: This comment doesn't represent my personal view just the view of the Koran. I'm not Muslim.
SanDan3rdDan 1 week ago
if only this old dude see my comment,,, then all illusion would show as an illusion to his eyes...
Dear old dude, the breadth of paradise is the same, coz we are portions of the One, blinded by our individuality and religious culture... if u meditate, then u would see, that the gates of Heaven, the paradise, lies within our own chests, limited by a human's sense of reality, we are the Earth, ONLY AIR SEPARATES US...
drbelli 1 week ago
Holy Qur'an and Holy Bible says the same that earth is motionless and i believe it.
Who don't they can watch this video. watch?v=xokMcO3T0SY
SalmanAfzalWahla 1 week ago
@SalmanAfzalWahla ahhhhahahahahahaha. I've flown around the world trust me it's not flat. That alone proves that the Bible and Qur'an are horrible sources of credible information. I can't believe in this day and age there are still people like you and the old guy around. Open your mind, observe, experience, and most of all learn from your own conclusions. Get out of the damn box your living in. The oldest form on population control/propoganda is religion. Do your research.
chinhhhhh 6 days ago
@chinhhhhh I still believe him, i still believe in Holy Qur'an, Holy Bible.
SalmanAfzalWahla 6 days ago
@SalmanAfzalWahla Congratulations, you are still a moron then. Promise the world you will never reproduce, thanks.
chinhhhhh 6 days ago
@chinhhhhh I still believe in Holy Qur'an, Holy Bible. You are believing on something which you've not seen with your very own eyes. "Earth is Spherical" "Sun is the center of solar system" "Earth revolves around it". These concepts got their roots in people's mind few centuries, few years ago, NASA is a government "baby" whom got established in 1958. To me you are a moron who believe in such things just because of "3D pictures". Congratulations! you are being victimized by NASA.
SalmanAfzalWahla 6 days ago
@SalmanAfzalWahla LOL really? So you've seen God/Allah with your own eyes? I have seen the moon and sun with my own eyes and they tell me thats a good chance that the earth is also round. Right... You are a fucking moron that believes in what people tell you that have no astrological credibility.
chinhhhhh 5 days ago
@SalmanAfzalWahla I am also in the US Air Force and I have seen the earth at a high altitude to know that it is round. I have flown all over the earth to know that it is round. Maybe you just havent experienced something called life. Good luck with that.
chinhhhhh 5 days ago
@SalmanAfzalWahla first of all NASA is not a government institution but an independent operation. secondly medieval muslim scientist already knew the earth is spherical (there even was an understanding of the concept of atoms and such..) but i guess the muslim world wants to go backwards so badly some like to forget they were at the peak of science and technology at one point in time. better look in the mirror before you call someone a moron
butobuto1 3 days ago
I believe him.
SalmanAfzalWahla 1 week ago
LOL "Koranic Science" Is there even such a thing?
stijn184 1 week ago
@ProfessorxVile AHAHAHAH omfg i am dying here....again with blaming the jews...being grumpy cause allah didnt show the muslims the correctness about the world first..he chose to show the "infidels" instead..lol fuck off
kingkonghitme 1 week ago
lmao what century are these retards from ? believeing in shit they made up
kingkonghitme 1 week ago
How can anyone let this person on television. Oh i forgot. It´s Iran right?
truenothing900 1 week ago
this is sad and also frightening, imagine this guy owning a nuclear weapon
Calinn86 1 week ago
All anyone needs to do is to watch this retard once to realize that we can't let this culture of retards control anything.
graciehunterII 1 week ago
He's not craziers than other religion fanatics, Muslims or Christians. But wait, he's a scientist, are you fcking kidding?
haibuihoang 2 weeks ago
so every man woman and child looks up in the sky and sees round planets for themselves, the sun, the moon mars etc. Its undeniable they are round. But yet because some loonies say its flat they have to come up with any old crap to convince their brainwashed followers everything those loonies wrote is true, they just can't accept any of its wrong. Its amazing any of the old world thought the earth was flat tbh, surely don't need to travel around the world to work it out. 2+2=4 not 22 you loonie
BogusDudeGW 2 weeks ago
lol does anyone know for sure if thats what they are saying.
Crazyman1212 2 weeks ago
This is all Zionist Jew-devil lies! He is actually telling us how all scientific discoveries of the last 200 years were contained in the Holy Koran....it's just that somehow infidels were able to find all of them before Allah's chosen Arabs. Again, it's the Jews' fault.
ProfessorxVile 2 weeks ago
@ProfessorxVile AND HERE COMES THE CRAZY PEOPLE!!
winintheflop06 2 weeks ago
DROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOGEN OPI XD XD XD
bignik252 2 weeks ago
My God !! take this man to psychologists. he is hillariously delusional.
846adil 2 weeks ago
"no docor has ever been able to explain how the eyes work" fuck I just new this shit would be funny before i even clicked!
skipstalforce 2 weeks ago 2
I wonder if someone just fudged the translation -.-
Norie92 2 weeks ago
@Norie92 haha no man that's not true, as I speak arabic I can confirm that it was properly translated ^^ Crazy world
Jorran3 1 week ago
His final comment,"Anything that has no indication in the Koran is false."demonstrates not only the threat,but the ability of religion to cause unimaginable destruction and suffering to humankind.Our species won't survive if it can't let go of absolutes.Our ego's are so fragile,the lengths we go to defend the things we identify with,in this case the Koran,are absurd.It doesn't have to be religion,kids ruin friendships over PS3/Xbox debates,adults berate one another for liking a brand of car...
wonmoreminute 2 weeks ago 12
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
TheREALforeverone 2 weeks ago
Religion = fail
BenDrinkinEsq 2 weeks ago 4
@BenDrinkinEsq not in quaran= a lie
so that includes bacon, cheeseburgers, and cake. all lies!!!
jesuslikedpie 2 days ago
wow he's way off as a scientist if he thinks that the moon is half the size to that of the sun????
eckoquest 2 weeks ago
the bible says the earth is round. what are they talking
TheMIKE130 2 weeks ago
@TheMIKE130 dude take that book of yours and slap the shit out of yourself with it and dont forget to tap the person who gave you that dr seuss book.
eckoquest 2 weeks ago
did u go there and measured..??@killerkel007
pearl05418 3 weeks ago
It's hard to believe these guys (Arabs) invented Algebra...
SpartanKratos001 3 weeks ago
There is so many things going through my mind about this guy I don't know what to say. He is a complete idiot, and shouldn't have been allowed to reproduce.
sregi22 3 weeks ago
DO PEOPLE ACTUALLY BELIVE THIS CLIP ..HAHAHA
Rayner79 3 weeks ago
Why did i click on this.. i knew it was bullshit but i was compelled to see what fucking idiots these people where, now I've given them an extra view. worst thing is that this was suggested on a link with Nassim Haramein a highly intellectual man.
blackened667 3 weeks ago
This is when Syiah rule the world, everything is upside down.
TheMrChip05 3 weeks ago
Quran is wrong mr. iraqi man
Hfaik 3 weeks ago
Hes missed the fact that our eyes are round
BRILLOPADral 3 weeks ago
I do wonder what is the context for that show in iraqi TV.
superdiza 3 weeks ago
total BS.. BUT it is a FACT that the Earth Is Not Orbiting The Sun.
LOOK IT UP!
sgentlemanjack112 3 weeks ago
@sgentlemanjack112
Huh?!? WTF are you smoking? The Earth IS orbiting the sun. It's the only model that makes sense.
verzen 3 weeks ago
@verzen look it up.... The sun is not stationary. It is hurling through space....we don't orbit the Sun in the way you were taught in grade school
sgentlemanjack112 3 weeks ago
@sgentlemanjack112
No one said the sun is stationary. The entire galaxy is moving in space. However the earth itself is STILL orbiting the sun when the sun is moving. Learn physics. k? Thanks! (And btw - I'm a college student working on a degree in science. Not physics, but we still must take physics 201 and 202 for our degree)
verzen 3 weeks ago
@sgentlemanjack112 retarded
561neko 3 weeks ago
the compression factor of space makes allthings into its purest form. A circle. look aat water in space,and you will see it forms a perfect circle.
darrylxxx1 3 weeks ago
proof why lums are so dumb
sourkushing 3 weeks ago
He's still in the school of guess work geniuses! Yes it is all guess.
mountainlionify 3 weeks ago
The earth is not round not flat.
The reality is that the earth is a caldrum of palo mayombe and we are inside of that caldrum and the wizard is our god...
What happen is that the mass media don't say this truth because is controlled by zionists.
MrElmataviejas 4 weeks ago
@MrElmataviejas lol,I had to go look that up, didnt get to much into it, but an interesting concept
SyrinxPriestOf 4 weeks ago
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vasgeorge 4 weeks ago
How could he even read the Quran with this glasses??? HAHAHAHAHAHA
Lightemerging 4 weeks ago
He call himself a scientist, the diameter of the moon is about 3474km and the diameter of the sun is about 1391000km. Watching stuff like this will make people dumb and naive.
killerkel007 4 weeks ago
lol They have pictures from outer space. I mean do we really need any other proof??? What a fuckin tool this guy is.
theciskokidd 1 month ago
so much of the truth is a lie. once we believed that the whole world was flat...now we all laugh about that!
MrShaun42088 1 month ago
He right nobody knows how your eyes work maybe he should take off those glasses ... Science help create them
Rizon513 1 month ago
maby we shouldn't have let them have guns
lucy9359 1 month ago
@lucy9359 that's racist and even dumber than the guy on TV.
we gave them guns when we CONQUERED them, and took their oil.
superdiza 3 weeks ago
@superdiza no it isn't racist they are caucasion offshoots so am I it is a cultural inference!!!!
lucy9359 3 weeks ago
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lucy9359 1 month ago
LOLOLOLOL Now you know why they are not even close to being a power!!!!! I'm just glad I'm not seeing anyone agree with this guy in the comments..
logan500 1 month ago
Holy Shit, Im not driving any where till they get this straight.
Geronimo1501st 1 month ago
i love you man, you gotta do stand up
dollargmail 1 month ago
Ah yes, the Koran. Soft, strong, and thoroughly absorbent.
edbertoli1 1 month ago
Sorry, the phrase "Iraqi scientist" is an oxymoron.
edbertoli1 1 month ago
this guy is as intelligent as a retarded 2 year old ant
bcounsell90 1 month ago
Poor man. Religion completely brainwashed him, as it continues to do to people today. Then again, it takes an easily-suggested personality to fall victim to this bollocks. While I won't deny modern science can be wrong, we can prove a great many things his 'ancient tomes' cannot.
Hirotoro4692 1 month ago 15
@Hirotoro4692 Actually i've read up on some pretty plausible arguments that have to do with the questioning of what science is telling us about our solar system. This guy is bit messed up though, i sincerely doubt the earth is flat, i would need to take a shit load of LSD to believe something like that. Hollow earth theory, and the spiral theory are interesting though, might wanna check them out...
MrDeadsea000 3 weeks ago
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BenDrinkinEsq 1 month ago
poor guy
ilifeform 1 month ago
Fuck logic.
PeaveyESP 1 month ago
Someone should show him google earth.
Indie9999 1 month ago
If these fucks are scientists then I do stem cell research in my kitchen with a garlic press.
PabloFerroDesign 1 month ago
Are we seriously still having this debate in 2012??? I'm actually sort of amazed. I thought you could find just about anything on the net, but I truly had no idea...ha!
robinmorningstar1 1 month ago
i don't even know what to say after watching this, except i guess its not the 21st century every where.
thinkasecond 1 month ago
I really wanted to put some sort of sarcastic / funny comment but hey, the mentality of the older uneducated generation,,,, ehh :I
spase72 1 month ago
I love youtube. wasted an hour looking at brilliant conspiracy vids.
Such fun ^_^
CharlieDwns 1 month ago
the perception of an approaching landmark would be the same whether the surface is round or flat, would it not?
skaley01 1 month ago
fuck the koran shit bomb this fucker away jajajajajaajajaja
theriddlerv42 1 month ago
Im christian, and i have read the quran as well. I have to tell you christians out there if you are gonna take the the bible litteraly it says the earth rests on foundations, that it has 4 corners, that the sun and moon move in THEIR paths, and the god stretched out the firmiment and heavens ABOVE the earth indicating a directional face. And that the pits are BELOW. Im not advocating either i just had my own revalation as i watched this and decided to comment.
socorban 1 month ago
Silly old fool - that's what happens when people reject science -they live in complete ignorance.
MrJohndl 1 month ago
Just speechless~!
bodhisattvaPatty 1 month ago
Ha ha ha ha What an IDIOT !! Hey if you believe this Moron I have a Beautifull Golden Bridge in San Fransisco that I would love to sell you . Stupid Arabs are so fucken Retarded it's fucken Embarrassing !! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
nicktesla45 1 month ago
i think his wife is flat.
Binij1 1 month ago
I love stupid people. They make the world go round. Its my new "scientific theory". if we kill all the stupid people the earth with stop rotating. Because some jackass wrote on youtube that stupid people make the world go round, and nothing that was written on youtube can be wrong!
anathamon 1 month ago
One more comment, this video just makes me insanely frustrated.Total Solar eclipses don't happen because the moon is half the size of the sun, they happen because the moon is the exact right size and distance from the earth and sun to block the sun when it is alined between the sun and the earth.How does this genius explain the lunar cycle, since it's constantly proving that the earth is round? It's the reason the moon waxes and wanes, since the very "round" shadow of earth causes it to do so!!!
kansasprepper 1 month ago
I don't care what religion a person believes in, I've met both wonderful people and complete assholes from every religious group out there. I'm glad I was born in a country that allows people to practice whatever religion they want to or none at all if they are so inclined. I do feel that there are problems with being dogmatic to the point of ignoring or omitting information, if it contradicts dogma, when that information is totally proven as much as anything can be proven.It's just ignorant.
kansasprepper 1 month ago
The name of this video should be Iraqi religious person proves he believes his religion's dogma instead of observable, proven information.You can't call someone a"scientist" if they don't follow the scientific method,which has nothing to do with total faith in religious dogma and has everything to do with observing and quantifying processes, information and data, without personal bias, to come to conclusions about the nature of things and/or how things work. He is totally biased and also stupid.
kansasprepper 1 month ago
I am a Christian, and I still accept plenty of scientific fact. But this is just really stupid. Past religious morals and other mythologies have tried to explain nature. Look at the Greeks. But when science comes in with new ideas, people love to shun them for the stupidest reason.
benhur217 1 month ago
Well, i can only see a round moon and sun the rest Fail sorry!!!!!!!!!!!
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HassassinPrime 1 month ago
Lets say there's no more religion. I highly doubt war would end. or roses would start growing everywhere jus cause there is no religion. NO! mankind will find a different reason to fight. WHY? Because even though there is no religion. GREED. LUST, ENVY, HATE, JEALOUSY will still exist. There will just be less rules to follow. Have fun reasoning with that crowd. Atleast you can manipulate blind followers. I wonder what happens when a bunch of phychos with no belief in heaven or hell start an army
HassassinPrime 1 month ago
Islam is the first religion to give rights to animals and women. Many slaves were bought and freed by the rich muslim companions of prophet mohammed.PBUH Once a war torn nation Arabia was united as a result of islam spreading. It is not till later the evil of man took over again and caused many "Muslim" ( So called) men in power started to use religion as a tool to benefit politically and financially. Religion is a great tool to control the masses, But it is also a great tool to bring peace.
HassassinPrime 1 month ago
@HassassinPrime Lol "islam is the first religion to give rights to animals and women"....oh thats funny. Thats why till this day women are treated like shit in muslim countries. Stoning for adultery. Beaten or put in jail for not wearing a burka. Not aloud to leave the house without a Male family member with them. Fuck your funny XD
tiger1chu 1 month ago
@tiger1chu stoning applies to both genders, actually. the burka is not a religious article of clothing. it's a cultural one. Islam stated women must cover their hair, It never said anything about faces. the burka was around long before Islam. they are allowed to leave the house, but not travel [because the majority of women aren't as capable of defending themselves, and thus need protection. and whose more trustworthy and dependable than a family member? less risk of betrayal]
RPGTKingpin 1 month ago
@tiger1chu Its becase the people running those countries are fuckin retards. BTW men are supposed to be stoned to death for adultry as well.
HassassinPrime 1 week ago
All you religion haters you need to realize that as much as religion cause hate and conflict, it also brought great peace to the world. All religions guide you towards peace, and provide you with rules that has made mankind function and not self destruct, because without rules humans are capable of great evil. In arabia, before islam new born girls used to be considered a bad omen and buried alive. Animals were over worked, hundreds of idols were worshipped, slavery was common.
HassassinPrime 1 month ago
This guys a retard. I am muslim and i can tell u NO muslim believes the earth is flat. The verses he mentioned have nothing to do with it either. The quran actually describes the earth as the shape of an ostrich egg which is a sphere. If everyone was right we wouldnt have so many divisions in Islam. Ppl need to realize that not all muslims believe in the same thing. Jus like almost every other religion there are sects, and many different interpretations and different beliefs.
HassassinPrime 1 month ago
Quran is not a book of Science, it's a book of Signs..
MrMaz80 1 month ago
someone put him on a rocket and fly him to the moon, then lets see if he still thinks the earth is flat..
gnexus01 1 month ago
"This science is a heretic innovation that has no confirmation in the Koran". Mmm... the Koran must have full confirmation about optics (he is using spectacles) and telecommunications (he is talking in TV). And it might be a reasonable assumption, althought we can´t see it plainly in the video, that he owns a cell phone, drives a car, uses a PC , browses the Internet, travels by plane, uses antibiotics, etc.; and that the Koran also confirms the part of the science related with those aspects...
Chuchurumbache 1 month ago
Wow, that's a very large Moon, I must say. Half the diameter of the Sun, huh? One would assume that the mass of the Moon would be around half of that of the Sun. If so, then how did the first astronauts who landed on the Moon survive the massively intense gravitational pull from the moon? They would be flattened on its surface like pancakes.
flensdude 1 month ago
Immediately Allah should go to university and take some geograpy lesson...
TurkAltai 1 month ago
all religion makes people shut there brains down fact fact fact No evidence what-so- ever
yet they will debate , cherry picked facts What ever caused the fantastic universe that we live in was not a man made religious God, as or religions are trying to indotrinate us with
Rogerlowrey2222 1 month ago
@Rogerlowrey2222 I'm a Christian, and I know how to spell "THEIR".
Why are you ignorant and arrogant atheists always being dicks? If I don't believe in the Tooth Fairy, I'm not gonna spend my life bitching about how other people believe in the tooth fairy and how stupid they are, and how they're trying to indoctrinate us into it.
Why fight so hard against something you don't even believe in? Oh right, atheism takes more blind faith and hate than any other religion.
Grimblix 1 month ago
@Grimblix Well my point proooooved i don't care how i spell it like all religious closed minds, you go straight to attack, go straight to rude and ignorant. You feel into my trap.
Never mind you God will teach you some manners, because what you give out you get back, so here is a smile
Rogerlowrey2222 1 month ago
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ok, i just have to say it.... this is terribly hurting my ears ... that idiot is arrogant, insulting all the scientist and is really pissing me off .... if the moon is half the size of the sun, and the earth is flat, just because its not mentioned in the kuran quran , however the fuck is called.... than fuck you man... this type of books bring wars because you and idiots like you, dont know how to fucking read!!!
sergiuchirita17 1 month ago
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sergiuchirita17 1 month ago
his parents did a poor job raising him... religion has completely fogged this old man's mind.
fresh8989 1 month ago 12
Both is right. Sure the earth isn´t flat but if it is possible to watch the earth from the overdimensional surface of the universe the earth would look like flat. Just search flatlanders cals sagan or Dr Quantum Flatland. So both are right if changing the position of watching like every religion is right or wrong if watching it from the right or wrong position.
metatron2332 1 month ago
world is flat, hahahaha. get a balloon, put a gps on it and let it go....when you find it you will find the earth is round!!!/
spoada 1 month ago
The bible and the koran speaks about same thing, in the bottom of all theres a creator a god but theres only diffrent details, an ppl have been killed just because of the details...so to hell whit religion.
AnThePopeSayHolyShit 1 month ago
@AnThePopeSayHolyShit good post
Rogerlowrey2222 1 month ago
this has nothing to do with religion. this man is just senile and stupid.
TheArabassist 1 month ago 2
its astonishes me how religion something that should be used to unite people, tears them apart from one another because of how strongly their beleifs can be, no single religion is right but then again no single religion is wrong. it makes my head hurt.
oTWeeKnOuTo 1 month ago
if you believe the earth is flat, then you must believe the universe doesn't exist. if the world is flat, does it have a drop off where you fall into oblivion? or does it continue to keep going forever? how can a grow man believe such things... How does gravity work then?! if i dug threw the earth i thought i'd find china, whats at the bottom then!? Satelites orbiting the earth kinda prove its round ;) same with the sun rising and setting in the exact same place everytime...
XxCourageInaCanxX 1 month ago
well i traveled around the world, and there was no end so... wait.... what if ?.... oh my god, the end of the earth is a portal to the other side, it must be :O
stosje45 1 month ago 2
The man with the glasses actually is an atheist! an actual scientist who wants to prove the fallacies of the Kuran by explaining things in a direction so he won't look like a 'Heretic or a Blasphemous' in front of the traditional, muslim, closed-minded society...Through his claims that have been taken literally from the Kuran will approve the ambivalence of the book and make them think...He might not seem so stupid after all ;)
Zack13IRQUSA 1 month ago
@Zack13IRQUSA funny you call the Muslim society closed minded, considering they helped develop philosophy, fathered modern medicine, chemistry, physics, astronomy and a whole host of other things.
This man used a quote from the Qur'an that never even mentions the state of Earth. it stated that Paradise was the width of the heavens and earth, referring to the fact that Paradise spans the width of the surface of the earth, plus millions of times that [hence, heavens; the universe]
RPGTKingpin 1 month ago
Funny that the Koran makes no mention of the earth being round or rotating but the Bible does many times over...
mindsetmovies 1 month ago
The moons diameter is half of the sun, sounds like a real scientist LOL
Banzay20 1 month ago
I think he must be right because he's wearing glasses.
aaronfromhastings 1 month ago
If his ridiculous beliefs have to do with his religion, say no more. Religion is simply man-made fairy tales, so why WOULDN'T he believe this junk? Ugh, this far along in human existence and we still have religion, wow.
BenDrinkinEsq 1 month ago
@BenDrinkinEsq His argument has nothing to do with religion. He uses irrelevant verses from the Qur'an to try and prove a fact, when the Qur'an itself doesn't support his claims in any way, shape or form.
As for Religion, believe it or not, some Qur'anic statements have not been discovered and proven by science until recently. Sure, it's healthy to be sceptical, to question statements and look for proof. But don't be so swift to condemn it because it's a religion and not science.
RPGTKingpin 1 month ago
@RPGTKingpin So you're saying he's crazy, got it. I'm saying, anyone who believe is religion has a bit of crazy in them. Religion = fairy tales tho, you agree there, no?
BenDrinkinEsq 1 month ago
@BenDrinkinEsq hardly. The stories told to us in religion are hard to believe, sure. outrageous in some cases, definitely. But couldn't the same be said of pioneers centuries, even millennia ago, that said one day men would fly across the planet like birds? They were definitely considered crazy. And yet here we are. See, open-mindedness is the key. take this man for instance. he closed his mind to science, and now refuses to even consider the possibility that Earth is round.
RPGTKingpin 1 month ago
@RPGTKingpin Keeping an open mind to realistic thoughts is one thing, but to believe in fairy tales in another. Why are you arguing to keep an open mind to peter pan and santa claus? Pick your battles.
BenDrinkinEsq 1 month ago
@BenDrinkinEsq again, 500 years ago [and even as recent as 200], the concept of a man flying at all, was a fairy tale that would incite mass ridicule towards any person who even hinted they believed it was possible. And yet, it came to pass.
RPGTKingpin 1 month ago
@RPGTKingpin You are referring to a time when human beings knew very little about the world and how it works, and thus, explained things with religion. We have knowledge now, and can come to much better-informed conclusions. If you choose to ignore all the knowledge we have gathered, as human beings, that's your choice.
BenDrinkinEsq 1 month ago
@BenDrinkinEsq never said I did. look at my profile. I don't think acknowledging the existence of dinosaurs fits into the stereotype you try to plaster me with :P
Like I said, I keep an open mind. Islam has said things refuted by science, but later confirmed. and this is a religion 1400 years old. the fact it went against the grain, and was later proven to be RIGHT, serves a convincing argument for its case. I am a sceptic myself, but I don't spit in the face of possibility.
RPGTKingpin 1 month ago
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@RPGTKingpin If we weren't talking about a guy who is saying the earth is flat, then yes, I'd say, "Keep an open mind." We are talking, in this instance, about a guy who arguing something that is proven. Clearly you are trolling, because this is ridiculous.
BenDrinkinEsq 1 month ago
@BenDrinkinEsq "Keeping an open mind" is not the same as "believing in fairy tales".
Why? Because if one believes in fairy tales, then their mind has already closed. The whole idea of keeping an open mind means you consider the *possibility* of 'fairy tales' but you do not accept it as an absolute truth, for there are still many other possibility.
Hirotoro4692 1 month ago
@RPGTKingpin
Just stfu u retard troll. NO ONE with a brain makes the arguments you do. Fuck off.
BenDrinkinEsq 2 days ago
@BenDrinkinEsq ....I find it hard to believe you're the same person I was debating with a month ago. the rift in your maturity between then and now is almost beyond belief. Is this even the same person? or are you just using his account?
My arguments were logical and reasonable. If you choose not to accept them, that's your choice.
Also, as I stated, our last interaction was over a month ago. I had very much 'fucked off' until you decided to come back and insult me.
RPGTKingpin 21 hours ago
@BenDrinkinEsq I prefer to keep an open mind. Prevents me from denying something that may be true, simply because it's hard to believe. If history has taught me anything, it's to expect the unexpected.
RPGTKingpin 1 month ago
Haahaha!. Koran? hahahahaaaaa! Funny video!
digger9million 1 month ago
'Anything that has no indication in the Koran is false.'
This is why I hate religion.
SirSamurbatsu 1 month ago 20
@SirSamurbatsu quran says the earth is round and describes more planets than the 9 previously discovered.. this guy is a dumb shiaa faggot, i have really reached the conclusion that shiaa are the shiats here... they make up verses from the quran and they use other verses to their own liking.
you can hate religion all you want, you're a free man, but im just saying, this isnt what real islam is about
devil0slayer 1 month ago
@SirSamurbatsu No this is why you hate stupid people, some religions knew long long time ago the way the universe works, example egypt, sumeria, baylon, maya.
YamiPoyo 1 month ago
@SirSamurbatsu I agree.
Nanatsaya77 1 month ago
@SirSamurbatsu that very line goes against Islamic doctrine itself :P
The Qur'an explicitly states that God hasn't revealed everything to us. some facts about reality are left for mankind to discover, and some will remain inexplainable regardless of how much we advance.
RPGTKingpin 1 month ago
he should of gone to specsavers and then read the special theory of relativity and then he will know a flat object in a three dimensional space cant exist in the laws of physics
TheMannInTheShadows 1 month ago
take off glasses uncle:)
esraretin 1 month ago
Really that man is trolling
If not he is the greatest fool on earth
mcmln2812 1 month ago
This just in!!! NASA HAS JUST FOUND OUT THAT THE EARTH IS FLAT AND IT SITS ON A TURTLE THAT TRAVELS THROUGH SPACE :O
commando745 1 month ago