People should understand that crashworthiness does not relate to how undamaged the car is after a collision, but how undamaged the car's occupants are. In this case the more crashworthy car has generously provided the crumple zone for both cars.
Modern cars have to absorb impacts, the old Cadillac doesn't. In case of shock, your body will be safer in this Peugeot than in the Cadillac, due to the fact that your body have to absorb less energy than in the Cadillac.
Crumple Zone, people, it's called a crumple zone. The French car is safer than the 1970s Cadillac because the zone crumpled, thereby absorbing the energy of the impact. Does nobody read Car & Driver anymore?
Now that's good old american built steel right there. They sure don't make them like they used to. Now of days cars crush like a beer can, because today's cars use light weight materials to get better mpg. So all of that steel they used to put on cars is vastly gone now of days and replaced my aluminum body moidings to keep weight down. I like my Ford Fusion but the body modlings are cheap and give easy especially the back panels where if something slightly bumps it it will leave a crease
@AndrewJuggalo951 weeeeeeeeel ur right on one thing...no harm in driving NEW american automobiles cz their proven safety records exceed those of certain European car manufacturers =)
@KidsOnCrack33 Yes I do get more pussy than you, you don't know who I am either. And hey, you brought up the word CUNT, so therefor, i can use any term related in any way, dumbass. And I'm 18 you fucktard. And yes I AM a big man, you're mom loves it =D Dont try and talk shit and act tough to me dude, you dont like what I got to fuckin say, then dont fuckin comment about me or reply to me man, that fuckin simple. You're telling me to be mature? Hows about YOU grow the fuck up dude, seriously.
@2607asteph they are the same (in the term of resistance) but remember no car ( not even a heavy modern s-class Mercedes ) can withstand with the old cars in crash, but in the term of safety they are of course safer than the old cars. and french cars are absolutely better than they were. but they had some weaknesses.
It's worth noting car's a stronger in the front as well with all the engine and stuff up there. I'd still put my money on the caddy though in a head on collision although into a tree I might just take the Peugeot.
reason why caddilac survived because of the strong construction. but drive that caddy into a tree att he same speed as the peugot and the caddy driver will die. car will not be as destroyed as caddy was but the driver in the caddy will be squished and the momentum would rip him apart. while the Peugeot is built weak but safe.
hahaha beeeaaaaassstttt i loved our american cars i'm a proud owner of a TRUE american car not one of today's plastic cars where if you hit something at over 5mph your bumper crumples i love my 91 ford crown victoria ltd
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French cars are like French people, a bunch of 'vaginas'. A lot of people are pointing out the fact that newer cars are made with crumple zones. that's true, but when the passenger compartment starts getting crumpled, the people get mashed up too. Anyway, the point of the video is how much of a difference there is in the amount of damage done. the Cadillac could drive away from the crash, the Peugeot is only good for scrap.
i can't believe how stupid ppl are here. The Peugeot is totally destroyed in order to reduce the force and impact on the passengers so less damage is done to the passengers inside the car...!!!!!! even a 10 years old knows that. And by the way Peugeot 405 was Produced in 1987 and stopped producing in 1997 in france and europe . Only in iran they are produced now days lol :)) can't call it a french car anymore :)) Its iranian car :)) .
I once rode in a Fiat van that I believe was made by Citroen/Peugeot I recall that it wasn't bad but had some trouble going up steep hills and the interior looked like my dad's old 1982 Tercel.
@Adam19822000 I drive a Peugeot and a Hyundai. Partner 2.0HDi and Santa Fe 2.2CRDi. The Peugeot has 150 000km and 10 yeats and the Santa Fe has 28 000km and 2 years "on the clock". No problems with the Pug so far,only the regular oil and oil/air/AC/fuel filters changes. The Santa Fe is way to new to experience any problems at all.
this is why we only drive old american cars from 1989 and back for the safety we have lol thats only a seville model imagine what a sedan deville would of done wow!
I have a '76 Cadillac Fleetwood and an '81 Cadillac Seville. Looking at this video makes me glad that should I ever be in an accident, the car will (probably) escape with minimal damage. It also worries me that I, the driver, probably will escape with much more damage! Crikey.
@Adam19822000 that's funny, cause everybody knows that americans just can't build cars. I can't think of even one good american car. The closest thing to a car that americans are making is corvette.
@Adam19822000 cause they are not built for america (you don't need small cars with... steering)
Also French cars have very good rust protection (apart from renault maybe), even the 80's models, and they just can't rust for 5 years. I own a 18-year old french car (Citroen ZX) and it doesn't have a single rust spot. My father have 17-year old french car (Peugeot 605 - the americans might like it cause it is big) and it doesn't have a single rust spot, too. Btw nobody in europe buys american cars.
@Adam19822000 For the same reason that Ford is the only reliable american car builder here. US market and European market haven't same customers, it's a different culture.
Wait, I just see another message from you where you talk about war, why you and some of your compatriots are unable to talk with Frenchmen without "lolol french cowards monkeys" ?
Having been in a head on crash in a 405 I can say they have excellent protection my car was lightly damaged but the ford sierra was written off, the front crash design is totally diffrent to the back.
That's a late '70s cadillac seville. built on a huge seperate chassis like a box girder bridge and thick steel panels. the 405 is late 80s/early 90s and is monocoque, thin tinny panels and plastic for weight saving. thats why the pug does 40 mpg+ and the caddy erm....doesnt.
cadillac has shock bumpers with actual shocks in the 80's into the early 90's then GM was a moron and did away with them because there wouldnt be any damage to the car and if you just take a sledge hammer hit the bumper a couple times it pops back you would never know the car got hit lol
The reason the Cadillac is unharmed is because in the old days automakers (Particularly American) made cars with thicker steel, and this lead to a safety problem of the cars not taking enough impact and instead the passengers and drivers took the impact, so today they built cars so that the car takes more impact than the passengers. Whoever says this is fake is an idiot.
dude that's completely not the peugeot quality! first of all it's been 15 years that iran is making 405's (peugeot 405 production ceased past 1997 in france) and so this peugeot is one of the persian made one's. poor safety is of irankhodro's design and peugeot company is not responsible for it.
second: cars in the same class should be compared in a crash test! i mean that bulk of heavy ass american car would destroy any car anyways..
I do agree with the fact the 405 is crappy, but honnestly the cadillac is not the car that hit and made all the damage on the rear !!! Even the light are not broken, and what about the front grille, not even broken !!
I think it's funny that people get all technical and defensive of things they are proud of that fail miserably. I once had a 1986 Lincoln Town Car and I was rearended by a Peterbuilt at 70mph, and I was still able to drive my car a week before I had to stop driving it.
This proves once again how stupid the rednecks,oops americans are. They have 5 mpg bangers and are very happy about it. Not even a 18th of american cars can get closer to the safety and mileage and quality of french(european) cars.
American (agri)culture seems to be on it's place here :) US People.... wake the fuck up!! Learn Physics from books not games. Try to understand the Newton's and Einstein's right as they are !!! Energy doesn't comes from nowhere and doesn't dissapear...... it changes to something different. Kinetic nrg, heat nrg etc. ... wake up U lazy bastards :)
@Adam19822000 No, I mean like the cars that still can be seen on the roads accros Europe. No rust at all. And if some bad ones were sold in the States,this is not how things are here. I wonder why there are almost no US cars for sale in the EU- well mostly because they don`t meet the eco norms and are to unreliable and poorly equiped for the money. Sorry,french (Peugeot and Citroen,to be precise) cars are far better than the ones ,that are made in the USA.
lol American engineering ftw why have crumple zones when you can use the car your hitting as a crumple zone just steer clear of larger older vehicles with no crumple zones or else kiss your organs good by XD
In this accident both drivers sustained a more intense deceleration (acceleration for the Peugeot driver) because the Cadillac FAILED at absorbing the shock's energy.. unlike the Peugeot.
What rlly "saved" the Cadillac driver isn't his car toughness BUT the WEIGHT.
If you ask me if I would like to be in a Peugeot VS Peugeot or in a Cadillac VS Cadillac crash at 30MPH, I choose the peugeot vs peugeot coz that cadillac is gonna give me a fucking painfull deceleration !
Wow, another case of american retardedness, The ruined car has absorbed the energy from the crash, thus saving the occupants. But all the energy of the american car is channeled into snapping the drivers (red)neck.
Bite my dick you french fuck. Just cause your cars are made of tinfoil and shit doesnt mean you have the right to insult our cars...and in this case dicks. Choke on a cat dick.
Although the Peugot is nearly wrecked, it absorbed the energy from the crash, unlike the American car failed to do. But in this scenario, that peugot seems to be made of REALLY cheap material because it should have crumpled up to a certain extent! So I guess what really matters is the scenario of the crash and the cars involved.
Before discussing about the difference between a "french car" and an "american car", you should try to reverse the roles, let the 405 strike the Cadillac from the back I don't really thinks it would be safer for the Cadillac than for the 405 in this video. The 405 is softer on the back and is really stronger on his front ...
The car coming from behind always holds the advantage as the trunk of the opponent is softer than its own engine compartment. But THIS is a total disaster for the peugeot...
This Peugeot was probably made in Iran. Don´t talk about french cars if it isn´t french at all. (405 mading was ended in 1996 in france, but in about 2005 Irans begun to make them again as cheap cars.)
I dunno, i don´t have one. I have only the old one and and it haven´t been crashed, so i don´t know anythink about it´s safety either. Just wanna say that Peugeot in Iran is probably made in Iran (Peugeot Pars) and it was made for being cheap shit. So where´s the french car?
I am in iran i have peugeot 405 like this one in video , its good car , i am satisfied
but what i mean is " american old car like Buek , Cadilac , Chevrolet are very strong and made with stong iron , but new cars every where made by aluminum
why factories made cars like this !! because of car Wight and fast speed
american cars are best .. look at the difference.. i wouldant like to be in the back seat.. ive been rear ended in a hondaa cicic and car was totaledddd bigtime and a ford f 250 hit me and bent it up but was repairable but the driver fell asleep with the cruze control on
The most important safety standards were set by EU car builders like Airbags, ABS, ESP, ASR, Side impact protection, Audi's Prcon-ten steering column and so on and so on US cars are now up to date with EU safety standards only cause we teached you ;)
I think you're right there. Plus the fact that European and Japanese cars have always been the best cars to drive. So arrogant Americans...go suck you'r exhausts. Europeans are happy with their safe non-tank cars...
pretty bad example for safety comparison as the cars should be at least in the same wieght class.
Cars were not safe in that era as they had almost no safety cell and the crumple zones were were to stiff for the frame and did not equally distribute impacts. This really is one bad comparison test for safety in US and EU. And the worst thing is to beleieve that the more steel you have around the safer the car it is all about struts and ditributing impact equally.
Ironically, the 1976-1979 Cadillac Seville shown in the video was actually Cadillac's SMALLEST car during those years.
Peugeots are stout cars. I was always impressed by my old 505 STi, but naturally it will come out on bottom when facing off against a body-on-frame vehicle from Detroit's "tank era."
On an off-note, I think too many people have missed the point of this video. They keep pointing out things like occupant safety. This is about the damage the cars took, not the occupants.
this proves that the american car is shit cous the body dint absorb any impact. the bad a car looks in an accident the better it is but the cockpit should remain in tack
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P405 is safe? Must be joke. This was not intended as crumple zone, only weak paper-structure affected by try to make light weight car. I owned 3x Renault 25 and btw 1x Peugeot 405 1.9D (about 40-50mpg heh!). All typical european `80 cars - design, engine, SAFETY (means NO SAFETY), etc. Safety was not in dumb public opinion of era accepted as criterium. Us `80 car has rudimentary safety given by mass, weight, robust structure and btw, who uses in `80 AIRBAGS - only us cars and MB ...
80's us cars used airbags in the 80's for one reason. the average american is about 14 trillion times the size of the average european, hence why they needed them! mb only used them cause they like to think there ahead of the pack....
the peugeot car absorbe better the shock and it's more safely, try to crash 2 cadillac and compare with 2 peugeot crash, then let me know who survive into the cars,,,
i prefer 10 times the peugeot over the oldsmobile.I saw a lot of french car crashes against trees ,walls and many other hard things and almost in all of them their passengers survived.On the other hand a saw a lot of pick-up crashes against trees ,walls etc etc and their passengers DIED.
The harder the crumple zones the worse for the passenger.
Having owned a few french cars, apart from them being absolutely shit in a crash, i'm surprised the car didn't break down before it crashed. Do Renault still use dead bodies instead of crash test dummies?
some frineds mentioned here that this french car has been built in Iran but don't forget that this type of Cadilac has been built in Iran as well, which is called Cadilac Iran.
Damn, Im keeping my 79 Oldsmobile Delta 88. They knew how to build cars then, frame and steel bumpers! Ive seen this before too with the old school cars versus most new ones.. the old cars have barely any damage and the new ones look like a flattened tube of toothpaste.
i hate to be the one to tell ya but new cars are actually a lot safer in every type of collision then older cars. instead of me telling you all the reason right now just look up videos of new vs old in crash tests. If you still think im wrong then ill tell you why im right.
I still say the body frame design is not only sturdy , I feel much safer than thinking of the light weight unit body plastic crap of today. I know the manufacturers stress air bags and safety cages, and those are great but the interiors are way too small , cars flip and roll much easier than the heavier ones, plus they all get totaled more often. Just look at the Cadillac Seville in the picture, its a midsized car with barely any damage, and no injuries to the driver.
i understand what you mean but the basic fact still remains, your less likely to be hurt in an accident while driving a modern vehicle that's rated high with the NHTSA, IIHS, or NCAP then a car that got 5 stars 20 years ago. Sure 20 years ago if you bumped someone neither of you would have damage but if you smashed a pole at 50 you were dead...today its a bit different. The little bump will cost you money but the 50MPH crash doesn't kill you.
New cars (like european, japanese, maybe american) are way safer than body on frame designs. Thats a fact. No discussion needed, because its not matter of opinions.
the FRENCH car have CRUMPLE zones for PROTECT the passengers... AMERICAN car is a fucking Tank Horrible danger for the Driver and the occupants ... try to crash your old North american crap car with a Wall and you will be a Mountain of Broken bones... the 405 Have absortion Zones... just like Any Inteligent car of XXI Century is a Defect of your car to have a BIG BIG Strong body ...
"french car" as in the french name, these cars are made in iran with parts from "iran khodro", they are not 100% french cars, trust me, anyone who knows anything about cars in Iran knows that these cars are pretty much iranian and not french.
Actually, it could. I drilled a Dodge Laser with an Cadillac Brougham in high school. The Caddy collapsed the back of the Dodge and drove away with a bent bumper and some damage to the grille and hood.
American cars rule, I'm sure GM will survive the 2009 depression, they survived the lasst one, so they are capable of surviving this one as well, the electric volt car will boost GM's sales garenteed.
i don´t know if they suffered injuries or not, what I mean is that the car´s nowadays when crash tend to break a lot more than the car´s 20, 30 years old, but now the drivers get a lot less impact than they used because the car absorbs
Well, some appointments shall be made for this video. FRONT is always more resistant to crashes than REAR. Unless you own an old-fashioned Beetle, that's a fact.
Also that body big deformation does not mean a weak car. At contrary, it means a car capable to absorb energy - which is very important. American automobiles use to resist at high speed crashes. But the inside suffers much more because energy from the impact is NOT absorbed. It's transmitted to the people inside. And that's not good.
in general, what I mean is that american automobiles are GOOD. But if they face an impact to a concrete wall or something seemed, their absorption of impact may not be as good as in a car which has an engineering project turned to absorption.
And before anyone says something, I make very clear that I love american cars. They're awesome. Icons of industry.
with body repairs where they are today, I'd rather have the car stay in one piece with a broken arm, than come out unharmed, but with my car turned into an acordian.
Last accident I was in, my Dodge's bumper just dented a bit, while the Mercury I hit was totally fucked up, whole drivers side caved in. Body on frame all the way (my Dodge is a Ram, not a passenger car, before you guys attack me)
Personally i think that all this "impact absorption" policy is just a way to explain all the plastic they are using in their cars to lower the production costs
Personally i think that all this "impact absorption" policy is just a way to explain "all the plastic they are using in their cars to lower the production costs"
is confuse because you talk about the crumple zones like a excuse to use cheap materials like some plastics and deformable things... if you do not explain well I understand that
Yep! That's the difference between an American hunk of gaz guzzling metal and a normal sized economical and environmentally friendlier French car... The big car couldn't slow down enough because of size, I suppose...
People should understand that crashworthiness does not relate to how undamaged the car is after a collision, but how undamaged the car's occupants are. In this case the more crashworthy car has generously provided the crumple zone for both cars.
JBofBrisbane 3 months ago
Did you hit a dog? Caddy driver: If thats what he had in his back seat, then yes I did.
zlee415 4 months ago
the peugeot is better it absorbed the impact, the driver may be alive.
Althought, the cadillac obviously fidn't absorbed a single newton, the driver probably did.
MrStaxxy 4 months ago
Modern cars have to absorb impacts, the old Cadillac doesn't. In case of shock, your body will be safer in this Peugeot than in the Cadillac, due to the fact that your body have to absorb less energy than in the Cadillac.
lepivert 5 months ago
Crumple Zone, people, it's called a crumple zone. The French car is safer than the 1970s Cadillac because the zone crumpled, thereby absorbing the energy of the impact. Does nobody read Car & Driver anymore?
shavedape777 5 months ago
Now that's good old american built steel right there. They sure don't make them like they used to. Now of days cars crush like a beer can, because today's cars use light weight materials to get better mpg. So all of that steel they used to put on cars is vastly gone now of days and replaced my aluminum body moidings to keep weight down. I like my Ford Fusion but the body modlings are cheap and give easy especially the back panels where if something slightly bumps it it will leave a crease
SteelCity1981 6 months ago
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SteelCity1981 6 months ago
This is exactly why I DON'T drive NON-AMERICAN shitmobiles... Fuck this plastic bullshit.
AndrewJuggalo951 6 months ago
@AndrewJuggalo951 and then you break your neck if u crash in2 a wall but with a peugot ul suffer far less injuries cz d car took all the impact 4 u
5800junker 6 months ago 2
@5800junker I'd rather have a broken neck than drive a NON-American made automobile =]
AndrewJuggalo951 6 months ago
@AndrewJuggalo951 weeeeeeeeel ur right on one thing...no harm in driving NEW american automobiles cz their proven safety records exceed those of certain European car manufacturers =)
5800junker 6 months ago
@5800junker dgaf =]
AndrewJuggalo951 6 months ago
@AndrewJuggalo951 No wonder people hate america. its cunts like you.
KidsOnCrack33 5 months ago
@KidsOnCrack33 ROFLMFAO! I'm a cunt? Please, I get more pussy than you, so I wouldnt be hatin you little faggot =D FUCK YOU, and suck my dick =]
AndrewJuggalo951 5 months ago
@AndrewJuggalo951 You get more pussy then me? yet you have no fucking idea who i am...
and looking at that comment you left i presume your about 14...
ROFLMFAO who the fuck says that shit??? you little panzy girl. no point in this internet brawl big man
KidsOnCrack33 5 months ago
@KidsOnCrack33 Yes I do get more pussy than you, you don't know who I am either. And hey, you brought up the word CUNT, so therefor, i can use any term related in any way, dumbass. And I'm 18 you fucktard. And yes I AM a big man, you're mom loves it =D Dont try and talk shit and act tough to me dude, you dont like what I got to fuckin say, then dont fuckin comment about me or reply to me man, that fuckin simple. You're telling me to be mature? Hows about YOU grow the fuck up dude, seriously.
AndrewJuggalo951 5 months ago
the guy in the american car must have suffered by the shock if the car hadn't got any breakure ...
Chowbizful 7 months ago
american muscle cars are just some fat shits of anvils and you can't compare with our french evolutioned cars
Chowbizful 7 months ago
@Chowbizful You are so right! Just think of the amazing Citroën DS21. What a car
catalinaumbert 4 months ago
... thats NOT even the biggest Caddy made. Its a mid size seville caddy !!!
>>> American cars ROCK YOU and will CRUSH you dead !!! <<<
apatheticempathy 8 months ago
MERICAN MUSCLE
r2d23678 8 months ago
@2607asteph they are the same (in the term of resistance) but remember no car ( not even a heavy modern s-class Mercedes ) can withstand with the old cars in crash, but in the term of safety they are of course safer than the old cars. and french cars are absolutely better than they were. but they had some weaknesses.
mushygirlsiniran 9 months ago
@2607asteph you know what man?, you haven't seen such an accident cause you live in France, in Iran, we have have seen lots of accidents like this.
mushygirlsiniran 9 months ago
It's worth noting car's a stronger in the front as well with all the engine and stuff up there. I'd still put my money on the caddy though in a head on collision although into a tree I might just take the Peugeot.
lukerobin01 9 months ago
reason why caddilac survived because of the strong construction. but drive that caddy into a tree att he same speed as the peugot and the caddy driver will die. car will not be as destroyed as caddy was but the driver in the caddy will be squished and the momentum would rip him apart. while the Peugeot is built weak but safe.
galbmw 10 months ago
hahaha beeeaaaaassstttt i loved our american cars i'm a proud owner of a TRUE american car not one of today's plastic cars where if you hit something at over 5mph your bumper crumples i love my 91 ford crown victoria ltd
NytrixOctane 1 year ago
I love french cars. Peugeot, Renault, Citroen. The best designs and affordable too.
Fucklesticks 1 year ago
en plus amadinedjad a une peugeot 405
une cadillac c'est utile quand t'as une petite bite
pierr1e1 1 year ago
oui mais comme d'habitude c'est la cadillac qui est en tort elle a prise par derrière
ça me rappelle ce fameux crash du concorde causé par un avion américain
c'est toujours les américains qui foutent la merde
pierr1e1 1 year ago
Drives the cadillac home. "Yeah i got in a wreck"...."OH MY GOD look at the damage"..."should have seen the other car"...lol
NathansBackwoods 1 year ago
jak chuju jeździsz?!
trancowy89 1 year ago
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French cars are like French people, a bunch of 'vaginas'. A lot of people are pointing out the fact that newer cars are made with crumple zones. that's true, but when the passenger compartment starts getting crumpled, the people get mashed up too. Anyway, the point of the video is how much of a difference there is in the amount of damage done. the Cadillac could drive away from the crash, the Peugeot is only good for scrap.
Greg9942 1 year ago
i can't believe how stupid ppl are here. The Peugeot is totally destroyed in order to reduce the force and impact on the passengers so less damage is done to the passengers inside the car...!!!!!! even a 10 years old knows that. And by the way Peugeot 405 was Produced in 1987 and stopped producing in 1997 in france and europe . Only in iran they are produced now days lol :)) can't call it a french car anymore :)) Its iranian car :)) .
behboad 1 year ago
CADILLACS IN IRAN?? THREE THUMBS UP
SativaSalivaIndica 1 year ago 6
you can t compare a french car designed in the 70 ' s or 80 ' s and the actual french who have the best european results for the crash test .
and the european crash test in 2010 is very strict .
all the french actual have 5 stars at this crash test it s the maximus .
asteph2607 1 year ago
If the Cadillac would have been it by the back it would have blow up like all old american cars.
steppenwolf95 1 year ago
@steppenwolf95 it wouldn't, I have such an accident too, but the difference wouldn't have been this dramatic.
mushygirlsiniran 9 months ago
I once rode in a Fiat van that I believe was made by Citroen/Peugeot I recall that it wasn't bad but had some trouble going up steep hills and the interior looked like my dad's old 1982 Tercel.
Adam19822000 1 year ago
BTW: we drive Toyotas
Adam19822000 1 year ago
@Adam19822000 I drive a Peugeot and a Hyundai. Partner 2.0HDi and Santa Fe 2.2CRDi. The Peugeot has 150 000km and 10 yeats and the Santa Fe has 28 000km and 2 years "on the clock". No problems with the Pug so far,only the regular oil and oil/air/AC/fuel filters changes. The Santa Fe is way to new to experience any problems at all.
dinkata2005 1 year ago
after all , french are the mechanics in hell
cuda540ify 1 year ago
obviously some dumbass i-ranian terrorist shi'tte shithead blew the shit out of this car with a car bomb.
Arabian Gulf 4 LIFE.
4threetwo1 1 year ago
tanked, damn
dutchguywillem 1 year ago
tank vs car LOL!! :D
FireOFK 1 year ago
this is why we only drive old american cars from 1989 and back for the safety we have lol thats only a seville model imagine what a sedan deville would of done wow!
midnitesquirldog 1 year ago
I have a '76 Cadillac Fleetwood and an '81 Cadillac Seville. Looking at this video makes me glad that should I ever be in an accident, the car will (probably) escape with minimal damage. It also worries me that I, the driver, probably will escape with much more damage! Crikey.
DonaldTaft 1 year ago 3
We see why american car makers went bankrupt while the french ones still making profits ...
Big american cars suck and will disappear just like dinosaurs !
petitleondieu 1 year ago
@petitleondieu Yeah, I see lots of French cars around here
oh wait, we scrapped them all cause they were crap
Adam19822000 1 year ago 4
@Adam19822000 that's funny, cause everybody knows that americans just can't build cars. I can't think of even one good american car. The closest thing to a car that americans are making is corvette.
wolfshark1 1 year ago
@wolfshark1 Well if French cars are so great then why haven't they been sold here in 20 years?
Adam19822000 1 year ago
@Adam19822000 cause they are not built for america (you don't need small cars with... steering)
Also French cars have very good rust protection (apart from renault maybe), even the 80's models, and they just can't rust for 5 years. I own a 18-year old french car (Citroen ZX) and it doesn't have a single rust spot. My father have 17-year old french car (Peugeot 605 - the americans might like it cause it is big) and it doesn't have a single rust spot, too. Btw nobody in europe buys american cars.
wolfshark1 1 year ago
@wolfshark1 Well no one in America buys French cars, so it's all good
Adam19822000 1 year ago
@Adam19822000 For the same reason that Ford is the only reliable american car builder here. US market and European market haven't same customers, it's a different culture.
Wait, I just see another message from you where you talk about war, why you and some of your compatriots are unable to talk with Frenchmen without "lolol french cowards monkeys" ?
SuperBunkerbuster 1 year ago
Having been in a head on crash in a 405 I can say they have excellent protection my car was lightly damaged but the ford sierra was written off, the front crash design is totally diffrent to the back.
davhind123 1 year ago
the time when the cars where built like eavy tanks is over
carig12 1 year ago
it seems like the Cadillac still have glass on front lights...how its possible????
lukatherider 1 year ago
@lukatherider because the lights are actualy thick glass not like plastic crap of today
midnitesquirldog 1 year ago 2
USA kicked some FRENCH ASS
ahahahaha :D !!!!!!
DerekBeck87 1 year ago 4
@DerekBeck87 Just like every single war since 1776 :P
Adam19822000 1 year ago
lol yank tank wins...
img6493 2 years ago
That's a late '70s cadillac seville. built on a huge seperate chassis like a box girder bridge and thick steel panels. the 405 is late 80s/early 90s and is monocoque, thin tinny panels and plastic for weight saving. thats why the pug does 40 mpg+ and the caddy erm....doesnt.
mrspivvy 2 years ago
you can't compare a small Peugeot with a Cadillac cause they don't have the same size^^
I precise you that French cars (and all other european cars) pollute less than American cars :P
lolocontrol 2 years ago 5
agree. its like crashing a scania into a transit.
mrspivvy 2 years ago
@lolocontrol Yes I agree
bide777 2 years ago
WHOOO GO AMERICAN CARS!!!!
skullz89 2 years ago 5
cadillac has shock bumpers with actual shocks in the 80's into the early 90's then GM was a moron and did away with them because there wouldnt be any damage to the car and if you just take a sledge hammer hit the bumper a couple times it pops back you would never know the car got hit lol
midnitesquirldog 2 years ago
The reason the Cadillac is unharmed is because in the old days automakers (Particularly American) made cars with thicker steel, and this lead to a safety problem of the cars not taking enough impact and instead the passengers and drivers took the impact, so today they built cars so that the car takes more impact than the passengers. Whoever says this is fake is an idiot.
minivan442 2 years ago 19
very true
yurifiero 2 years ago
Haha, actually all the new cars are made to AMORTIZE SHOCKS (and that Cadillac isnt).
That's a security question.
So that's absolutly normal that this 90s Peugeot cant resist to that old Cadillac.
KlamzeR 2 years ago 17
ha ha my mom had one when we were kids it was a boat could not kill it though
shattered79 2 years ago
fake
Setaneiro 2 years ago
Well, they don't call them lead sled's or yank tanks for nothing!!
bliglum 2 years ago 2
wow that Peugeot has like what? Zero star rating?
EvilKnFuckalot 2 years ago 2
dude that's completely not the peugeot quality! first of all it's been 15 years that iran is making 405's (peugeot 405 production ceased past 1997 in france) and so this peugeot is one of the persian made one's. poor safety is of irankhodro's design and peugeot company is not responsible for it.
second: cars in the same class should be compared in a crash test! i mean that bulk of heavy ass american car would destroy any car anyways..
Shuffle3956 2 years ago 3
thats so true
mehdieminem 2 years ago
More like 20 years old technology and less mass.
DStylesHanska 2 years ago
Best cars come frome Germany :)
xylo87 2 years ago
the french can't really do anything good, they never even won a war.
wildnutria 2 years ago
well, for the record, you don't do grammar too good. Don't be so quick to judge.
Marksman42 2 years ago
Don't have to judge, it's just the way it is.
wildnutria 2 years ago
ur confused
u dont know what ur talking about
mehdieminem 2 years ago
You fuckin idot, Napoleonic wars. Stupid dumbass
SecularTechnology 2 years ago
Dont forget that this means that if you crash on a wall with a cadillac you r DEAD!~!
xronisxronis 2 years ago 2
what r u talkin about?
eltragonwithestilo 2 years ago
I mean that if you crash on a wall that car will not protect you because it will not be deformed.. -->
so you will and up dead ( massive deceleration --> huge G force !!!)
xronisxronis 2 years ago
I mean that if you crash on a wall that car will not protect you because it will not be deformed.. -->
so you will and up dead ( massive deceleration --> huge G force !!!)
xronisxronis 2 years ago
I do agree with the fact the 405 is crappy, but honnestly the cadillac is not the car that hit and made all the damage on the rear !!! Even the light are not broken, and what about the front grille, not even broken !!
FGX318 2 years ago
Yo remind me not to drive a car like that when im in france or where ever ok YIKES!!!.
dunn98632 2 years ago
I think it's funny that people get all technical and defensive of things they are proud of that fail miserably. I once had a 1986 Lincoln Town Car and I was rearended by a Peterbuilt at 70mph, and I was still able to drive my car a week before I had to stop driving it.
taterpuff1974 2 years ago
This proves once again how stupid the rednecks,oops americans are. They have 5 mpg bangers and are very happy about it. Not even a 18th of american cars can get closer to the safety and mileage and quality of french(european) cars.
dinkata2005 2 years ago 2
American (agri)culture seems to be on it's place here :) US People.... wake the fuck up!! Learn Physics from books not games. Try to understand the Newton's and Einstein's right as they are !!! Energy doesn't comes from nowhere and doesn't dissapear...... it changes to something different. Kinetic nrg, heat nrg etc. ... wake up U lazy bastards :)
wszetecznik 2 years ago 2
@dinkata2005 Quality of French cars, you mean like that junk they sold here in the 80s, that rusted away after 5 years?
Adam19822000 1 year ago
@Adam19822000 No, I mean like the cars that still can be seen on the roads accros Europe. No rust at all. And if some bad ones were sold in the States,this is not how things are here. I wonder why there are almost no US cars for sale in the EU- well mostly because they don`t meet the eco norms and are to unreliable and poorly equiped for the money. Sorry,french (Peugeot and Citroen,to be precise) cars are far better than the ones ,that are made in the USA.
dinkata2005 1 year ago
lol American engineering ftw why have crumple zones when you can use the car your hitting as a crumple zone just steer clear of larger older vehicles with no crumple zones or else kiss your organs good by XD
AMDkicksass 2 years ago
Fraseryt is damn right...
In this accident both drivers sustained a more intense deceleration (acceleration for the Peugeot driver) because the Cadillac FAILED at absorbing the shock's energy.. unlike the Peugeot.
What rlly "saved" the Cadillac driver isn't his car toughness BUT the WEIGHT.
If you ask me if I would like to be in a Peugeot VS Peugeot or in a Cadillac VS Cadillac crash at 30MPH, I choose the peugeot vs peugeot coz that cadillac is gonna give me a fucking painfull deceleration !
Nox665 2 years ago
If you were in a rigid box of a car where does all the impact go? Straight to your internal organs as they splat against your rib cage.
But if you were in a car designed to crumple in certain spots the shock on your body will be greatly reduced.
misterhed 2 years ago 2
Wow, another case of american retardedness, The ruined car has absorbed the energy from the crash, thus saving the occupants. But all the energy of the american car is channeled into snapping the drivers (red)neck.
so sure, your car is safe, but you aren't.
fraseryt 2 years ago
european cars are not always that safe either.
thevicegrip 2 years ago 2
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So what ? Americans are like Italians, the bigger the car, the smallest the dick.
We don't care about driving like a jackass, we just fuck there.
Take care yankees !
clarinetman1664 2 years ago
Bite my dick you french fuck. Just cause your cars are made of tinfoil and shit doesnt mean you have the right to insult our cars...and in this case dicks. Choke on a cat dick.
FearandLoathinginSD 2 years ago
Although the Peugot is nearly wrecked, it absorbed the energy from the crash, unlike the American car failed to do. But in this scenario, that peugot seems to be made of REALLY cheap material because it should have crumpled up to a certain extent! So I guess what really matters is the scenario of the crash and the cars involved.
smartkid1985 2 years ago
American car saved someone's life, but Iran is still opposing US, what is wrong with you people?
ganjubaseg 2 years ago 2
Before discussing about the difference between a "french car" and an "american car", you should try to reverse the roles, let the 405 strike the Cadillac from the back I don't really thinks it would be safer for the Cadillac than for the 405 in this video. The 405 is softer on the back and is really stronger on his front ...
darkraphy 2 years ago
The car coming from behind always holds the advantage as the trunk of the opponent is softer than its own engine compartment. But THIS is a total disaster for the peugeot...
leckmich0815a 2 years ago
Cadillac is safer, peugeot rear seat is crushed.
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zgrozkan 2 years ago
This Peugeot was probably made in Iran. Don´t talk about french cars if it isn´t french at all. (405 mading was ended in 1996 in france, but in about 2005 Irans begun to make them again as cheap cars.)
42Victim 2 years ago
if this Peugeot made in 1996 the that Cadilac made in 1990 or less
you think new Peugeot or Citroen or other french car model 2009 are safe ?
bia2akx 2 years ago
I dunno, i don´t have one. I have only the old one and and it haven´t been crashed, so i don´t know anythink about it´s safety either. Just wanna say that Peugeot in Iran is probably made in Iran (Peugeot Pars) and it was made for being cheap shit. So where´s the french car?
42Victim 2 years ago
I am in iran i have peugeot 405 like this one in video , its good car , i am satisfied
but what i mean is " american old car like Buek , Cadilac , Chevrolet are very strong and made with stong iron , but new cars every where made by aluminum
why factories made cars like this !! because of car Wight and fast speed
they dont care to safety more than speed
thanks bro
bye
bia2akx 2 years ago
Just for your information, I thought you should know that the Cadillac is at the newest, a 1979 model. They were like this from 1975-1979.
taterpuff1974 2 years ago
american cars are best .. look at the difference.. i wouldant like to be in the back seat.. ive been rear ended in a hondaa cicic and car was totaledddd bigtime and a ford f 250 hit me and bent it up but was repairable but the driver fell asleep with the cruze control on
san379 2 years ago 3
cadillac = old car = tank =not absorb the shock of accident= driver DEAD
Peugeot =absorb the shock of accident=absorb the shock of accident= driver ALIVE
ortsegga 2 years ago
I think you've got a point...
petterhny 2 years ago
yea right the absord of the shock in this case was the peugeot lol
impalaccc 2 years ago
Metal is not complaining, plastic is.
impalaccc 2 years ago 3
The most important safety standards were set by EU car builders like Airbags, ABS, ESP, ASR, Side impact protection, Audi's Prcon-ten steering column and so on and so on US cars are now up to date with EU safety standards only cause we teached you ;)
sebbbing 2 years ago
I think you're right there. Plus the fact that European and Japanese cars have always been the best cars to drive. So arrogant Americans...go suck you'r exhausts. Europeans are happy with their safe non-tank cars...
petterhny 2 years ago
pretty bad example for safety comparison as the cars should be at least in the same wieght class.
Cars were not safe in that era as they had almost no safety cell and the crumple zones were were to stiff for the frame and did not equally distribute impacts. This really is one bad comparison test for safety in US and EU. And the worst thing is to beleieve that the more steel you have around the safer the car it is all about struts and ditributing impact equally.
sebbbing 2 years ago 2
Ironically, the 1976-1979 Cadillac Seville shown in the video was actually Cadillac's SMALLEST car during those years.
Peugeots are stout cars. I was always impressed by my old 505 STi, but naturally it will come out on bottom when facing off against a body-on-frame vehicle from Detroit's "tank era."
On an off-note, I think too many people have missed the point of this video. They keep pointing out things like occupant safety. This is about the damage the cars took, not the occupants.
RadialSkid 2 years ago 16
French cars are crap, we Americans figured that out a long time ago :)
Adam19822000 2 years ago
Cadillac is the best car on the world.
iseperi3 2 years ago
Both drivers probly have a headache from the accident, but which one can you drive away afterwards?
6milpesoman 2 years ago
this proves that the american car is shit cous the body dint absorb any impact. the bad a car looks in an accident the better it is but the cockpit should remain in tack
mqhqasim 2 years ago
lol
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jickidyjackeehah 2 years ago
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American cars have always had CRAPPY BRAKES. Just take a look to those American shits of the 1960s, still using WIRE OPERATED brakes.
lavolvo 3 years ago
Explain how the cars of the 1960's had "Wire operated brakes".
I have owned many 60's era vehicles and i never seen these wires.
6milpesoman 2 years ago 2
P405 is safe? Must be joke. This was not intended as crumple zone, only weak paper-structure affected by try to make light weight car. I owned 3x Renault 25 and btw 1x Peugeot 405 1.9D (about 40-50mpg heh!). All typical european `80 cars - design, engine, SAFETY (means NO SAFETY), etc. Safety was not in dumb public opinion of era accepted as criterium. Us `80 car has rudimentary safety given by mass, weight, robust structure and btw, who uses in `80 AIRBAGS - only us cars and MB ...
popolvr 3 years ago
80's us cars used airbags in the 80's for one reason. the average american is about 14 trillion times the size of the average european, hence why they needed them! mb only used them cause they like to think there ahead of the pack....
mikeys205 2 years ago
lol
Adam19822000 2 years ago
the peugeot car absorbe better the shock and it's more safely, try to crash 2 cadillac and compare with 2 peugeot crash, then let me know who survive into the cars,,,
Sattanik84 3 years ago 5
Haha!
This fuckin small european cars!
CHEVYPOWER76 3 years ago
i prefer 10 times the peugeot over the oldsmobile.I saw a lot of french car crashes against trees ,walls and many other hard things and almost in all of them their passengers survived.On the other hand a saw a lot of pick-up crashes against trees ,walls etc etc and their passengers DIED.
The harder the crumple zones the worse for the passenger.
jorgehernan 3 years ago 5
I consider myself lucky lol.
pacjr310 3 years ago
Those big body american cars of the 80's and before, Walk all over little cars like this!
j45007 3 years ago
Are you realy dumb? Ofcourse If a car hit another car from behind it have a disadvantage.
19tuureluur86 3 years ago
Having owned a few french cars, apart from them being absolutely shit in a crash, i'm surprised the car didn't break down before it crashed. Do Renault still use dead bodies instead of crash test dummies?
darrenj5 3 years ago
yes but gas is expensive in france, so they make lighter frame
alainvig 3 years ago
some frineds mentioned here that this french car has been built in Iran but don't forget that this type of Cadilac has been built in Iran as well, which is called Cadilac Iran.
changiz80 3 years ago
Damn, Im keeping my 79 Oldsmobile Delta 88. They knew how to build cars then, frame and steel bumpers! Ive seen this before too with the old school cars versus most new ones.. the old cars have barely any damage and the new ones look like a flattened tube of toothpaste.
regency98us 3 years ago 2
i hate to be the one to tell ya but new cars are actually a lot safer in every type of collision then older cars. instead of me telling you all the reason right now just look up videos of new vs old in crash tests. If you still think im wrong then ill tell you why im right.
Ryantravisaol 3 years ago
I still say the body frame design is not only sturdy , I feel much safer than thinking of the light weight unit body plastic crap of today. I know the manufacturers stress air bags and safety cages, and those are great but the interiors are way too small , cars flip and roll much easier than the heavier ones, plus they all get totaled more often. Just look at the Cadillac Seville in the picture, its a midsized car with barely any damage, and no injuries to the driver.
regency98us 3 years ago 2
i understand what you mean but the basic fact still remains, your less likely to be hurt in an accident while driving a modern vehicle that's rated high with the NHTSA, IIHS, or NCAP then a car that got 5 stars 20 years ago. Sure 20 years ago if you bumped someone neither of you would have damage but if you smashed a pole at 50 you were dead...today its a bit different. The little bump will cost you money but the 50MPH crash doesn't kill you.
Ryantravisaol 3 years ago 4
New cars (like european, japanese, maybe american) are way safer than body on frame designs. Thats a fact. No discussion needed, because its not matter of opinions.
swordfish1986 2 years ago 2
Yea that's what im saying...lol. And yes all three that you mention have many cars on the top safety pick list and none of them are body on frame.
Ryantravisaol 2 years ago 2
These "french" cars are in fact made in IRAN!
brahms63 3 years ago
Haha htat's hilarious
Domman56 3 years ago
the FRENCH car have CRUMPLE zones for PROTECT the passengers... AMERICAN car is a fucking Tank Horrible danger for the Driver and the occupants ... try to crash your old North american crap car with a Wall and you will be a Mountain of Broken bones... the 405 Have absortion Zones... just like Any Inteligent car of XXI Century is a Defect of your car to have a BIG BIG Strong body ...
legacyrally555 3 years ago 4
all i can say is LOL
galaxy1o1 3 years ago
french car got raped XD
musashi1865 3 years ago
"french car" as in the french name, these cars are made in iran with parts from "iran khodro", they are not 100% french cars, trust me, anyone who knows anything about cars in Iran knows that these cars are pretty much iranian and not french.
amirjon 3 years ago
Difference between French and American cars
musashi1865 3 years ago
Empty trunk vs. engine what's this supposed to proof? Head to head collision makes a lot more damage and injuries.
Migozzi1 3 years ago
Oh, I see : american car just can't break, so the front car was used to stop the american car LOL !!
lepivert 3 years ago
Fake.
ypleuh 3 years ago
The best with the Peugeot is that the impact on the human in the Peugeot wolud be smaller than the Cadillac drivers....
MrStarzky 3 years ago 3
Actually, it could. I drilled a Dodge Laser with an Cadillac Brougham in high school. The Caddy collapsed the back of the Dodge and drove away with a bent bumper and some damage to the grille and hood.
KanzaBoom 3 years ago
fake, that car couldn't make that damage
raidaru 3 years ago
American cars rule, I'm sure GM will survive the 2009 depression, they survived the lasst one, so they are capable of surviving this one as well, the electric volt car will boost GM's sales garenteed.
hardcore4republican 3 years ago
The peugeot driver suffered no injuries
The cadillac driver broke his neck because all the energy was projected into him
PsilocybeBRA 3 years ago
Where did you get that idea,
the drivers where standing right next to their cars.
Taigo123 3 years ago 3
i don´t know if they suffered injuries or not, what I mean is that the car´s nowadays when crash tend to break a lot more than the car´s 20, 30 years old, but now the drivers get a lot less impact than they used because the car absorbs
PsilocybeBRA 3 years ago
Well, some appointments shall be made for this video. FRONT is always more resistant to crashes than REAR. Unless you own an old-fashioned Beetle, that's a fact.
Also that body big deformation does not mean a weak car. At contrary, it means a car capable to absorb energy - which is very important. American automobiles use to resist at high speed crashes. But the inside suffers much more because energy from the impact is NOT absorbed. It's transmitted to the people inside. And that's not good.
DerAdventurer 3 years ago 3
in general, what I mean is that american automobiles are GOOD. But if they face an impact to a concrete wall or something seemed, their absorption of impact may not be as good as in a car which has an engineering project turned to absorption.
And before anyone says something, I make very clear that I love american cars. They're awesome. Icons of industry.
DerAdventurer 3 years ago 5
with body repairs where they are today, I'd rather have the car stay in one piece with a broken arm, than come out unharmed, but with my car turned into an acordian.
Last accident I was in, my Dodge's bumper just dented a bit, while the Mercury I hit was totally fucked up, whole drivers side caved in. Body on frame all the way (my Dodge is a Ram, not a passenger car, before you guys attack me)
FirebirdCamaro1220 3 years ago
That´s true,
Personally i think that all this "impact absorption" policy is just a way to explain all the plastic they are using in their cars to lower the production costs
Taigo123 3 years ago
yo don't understand anything about the Safety of the cars...
You need ABSORTION... if You Not have absortion you will be a Montain of Broken bones... for example crash in a 70 Ford malibu.. LOL
legacyrally555 3 years ago
And you don´t seem to know anything about english.
Yes, absortion and crunching areas are necessary, but you HAVE to HAVE something to crunch.
You can´t just project something to crunch right and use just paper thin steel sheets.
You will end up crunching the driver.
After all the years i´v been spending learning about automobilles i think i might have learnt something about cars.
Taigo123 3 years ago
That´s true,
Personally i think that all this "impact absorption" policy is just a way to explain "all the plastic they are using in their cars to lower the production costs"
is confuse because you talk about the crumple zones like a excuse to use cheap materials like some plastics and deformable things... if you do not explain well I understand that
legacyrally555 3 years ago
Yes, It´s just a way the marketing departments found to explain why the steel sheets are getting thinner every year.
Plastic is ok for some stuff, but there are brands that even use plastic fenders and so on.
That´s just wrong.
Taigo123 3 years ago
I think you dont understand what you've learned...
swordfish1986 2 years ago
Yep! That's the difference between an American hunk of gaz guzzling metal and a normal sized economical and environmentally friendlier French car... The big car couldn't slow down enough because of size, I suppose...
MrKabDrivr 3 years ago
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booo american cars
freddylovescars 3 years ago
it's not a car, it's a tank
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