Chinese economic planning under Mao part 1of2

[456inthemix]

China has communist system to control people and a controlled market system to rule the wold. Most advantage of it is taking the CCP cadres, the elites.

[Beulah502]

Mao knew how to lead people, but he did not understand how to develop a nation

[greengringo2003]

@Beulah502 He also knew how to screw underage girls. What a charmer.

[vaibanez17]

Yep, lets make steel, lets work hard to make sure we have steel being made everywhere. Forget farming and agriculture...come on lets make steel...we can keep up with UK and USA that way! Oh wait, everyone is starving to death? We don't have enough workers? Damn, maybe this wasn't a great idea.......

[greengringo2003]

@vaibanez17 Eat the steel!

[BorderlineOffensive]

Mao Zedong is Ivan Ooze!!!

[robertwc82]

sounds like "Animal Farm"

[Godismylife1]

Chinese economy is # 2 its going to pass the U.S. in 2025. Maybe sooner if the U.S doesn't recover.

[Robdrummer93]

Useful book to read on China's economy and politics in the 20th + 21st century is Will Hutton's 'The Writing on the Wall: China and The West in the 21st century'.

[ericssson]

when the dinosaur Mao Zedong died Everything got better

[SupremePenguinTone]

@ericssson You mean for the people who work in sweatshops to mass produce products for the west?

[ajgolfer1]

a nations wealth is based on how the people live, NOT THE POLITICAL CLASS!!!!!!!

[warriorprince1010]

Mao set China back years. If he had copied the British, German Japanese or USA system and done nothing else China would now be the most powerful nation ever. China finally accepted they were wrong and have now had to copy other countries but in a far more inhumane manner.

[14Srb88]

Chinsa is most powerful nation ever... ;s

[14Srb88]

pardon,China*

[ajgolfer1]

@14Srb88 i wish there was a hell for mao to go to

[14Srb88]

You idiot,where did you find mao in my comment ?? I said,NATION !

[Justbeatit999]

Evidence number #92340934 that planned society's don't work. Karl Marx I hope you burn in hell for all that your ideas have done to hundreds of millions of people over the century.

[lendmeurears]

If Mao did one practical thing for a capitalist PRC, it was to introduce land reforms which are extremely difficult to do or impossible in a more open and democratic society. Land reforms are possibly the most important milestone in enabling economic recovery/growth.

[piggadave]

utter stupidity... bloody cb Mao

[aresguy007]

mao did bring china up a bit but still he is a old fag

[bob12285]

All the idiots on this message board supporting Mao in some way are psychopaths, just as he was. It makes me sick to watch videos like these and see people making excuses for people like Mao, saying things like "There was more equality under Mao"....well, that's true, there was equal poverty and murder for all.

[ntn1987]

They are brainwashed Chinese

[seppukuhierarchy]

lol

[ihavenousernamelol2]

communism doesn't believe in market economy, its all about central planing.

its funny to say china is a communist country

[ORUPRANKSTAZ]

@tchen10

Communism is a lot of theories and such... one thing it really is.. Total reliance on the state. The state will provide all. Depend on it. Worship it, or you will die. If you resist our Great Leader's ideals, and if you make your opinions known, we will silence you.

THAT is Mao's China. Anyone who says any different (even if you are Chinese) is a sympathizer with the most oppressive form of government.

Don't believe me? Why don't you look up Chen Guangcheng.

[tchen10]

@ORUPRANKSTAZ that is what i meant read my last comment, mao's ideal is huge fail, and tens of millions of chinese perished during his regime, a total disaster out of nothing

[warriorprince1010]

Communism is about governments holding power and people being slaves to them. Capitalism sets people free.

[1XMarksSpot]

@ihavenousernamelol2 China is communist in government, but capitalist in economy

[greengringo2003]

@1XMarksSpot China is still not a world-market economy. And they steal technology; it costs less that way. That's been going on since 1949, minimum. Demographics will do them in over the long run.

[1XMarksSpot]

@greengringo2003 That's true. But an economy doesn't have to be a world-market economy to be capitalist. China does steal technology from other countries, but so does other countries. The US stole alot of technology from Germany after WW2. It was unpatented, but still stolen nonetheless. I do find it funny that the US criticizes China of stealing their technology when the US has done the same thing in the past lol. "Do as I say, not as I did" haha.

[Tomsanbomsi]

@ihavenousernamelol2 it's funny THEY say

[slimv29]

@ihavenousernamelol2 it barely ever was anyway

[chesbo]

CAPITALISM & MATERIALISM ARE ROOT OF ALL EVIL. (1 Timothy 6) For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out. And having food and raiment let us be therewith content. But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition. For the love of money is the root of all evil....

[ultimate8pac]

how is that?

[1XMarksSpot]

@chesbo Then you should stop using YouTube and enjoying all the pleasures it brings you since Capitalism and Materialism created it! lol

[Dealit707]

LMOA....Talk about the "Cult of the Stupids"

To bad there was no dialogue from the Commie's. It would probably go something like..."Hey my Commie brothers, let's smash up all of our furniture, doors, window frames, shit we'll even dig up the family coffin and burn that too. Fuck it! We'll burn everything!

WHY?? So we can make leaky fucked up metal pots".....Then the whole bunch of them go on a friggin rampage of smashing and burning.

Fucked up Commies and the Cult of Mao. Crazy shit.

[Darkheroeslord]

Guess wat?

Ur the shit m8!

Chairman Mao ave done his duties and he succeeded!

Now China is strong and rich and their no deaning!

[UncleSam13]

Actually, Chinese wealth now is due largely to the PRC ignoring the Mao's principles.

[Dealit707]

UncleS:

That is an absolute fact. The Chinese may be repressed, but they are most certainly not stupid. Back in the 1980's they realized that Mao's grand scheme was bullshit, so they got smart and formed their present quazi Communist gov't grounded on the western capitalist system of economics. LOL! The PRC should give Obama a serious talking too.

[rjscheppy]

Socialism never invented anything.

[ultimate8pac]

exsplain i am intrested, ur comment is 2 pages back out. i want some examp, of socialism getting no where

[maoii]

fuck dis shiettt, pep in China don't have right to speak out the truth even tday, and the previous employee working close to the Mao are still in the Communist party, so No fucking way right here that they are saying anything against Mao, since he is still the highest power in the History of Chinese communism. If they are then they fake, they ain't the real employees. motherfucker fakers. Fuck Mao though.

[kkklownknight6699]

This is the type of society Barack Hussein Obama wants for America.

Next thing you'll know they'll be peoples communes in Texas and Ohio and Hussein will arrest and detain any conservative who disagrees with him.

[grumbeard]

You dont know what you are saying. But that is understandable. Obama want to do something that will hopefully save america. He dares to say that it is not acceptable for the worlds greatest economie to have a povertyrate of a third world country.

[Dealit707]

WTF are you talking about? Obama is a Socialist who may bring on the second revolution in America. America is full of opportunity, if one wants to get off their ass and work for it. Why the fuck do you think people from all over the world are dieing to get to America. "Poverty rate of a third world country'??....are you on fucking LSD, or are you just stupid. Obama got elected by useing a classic tactic "Class Warfare".

The biggest problem in the U.S. is the biased left wing media....fuck them.

[grumbeard]

Biased left media you mean fox news. ^^

[Peadarisback]

you wish!!!!!! Obama is a capitalist and with a few socialist tendency's but he won't change anything don't worry...Your countries safe.......I wish Obama was a socialist then I'd respect him more

[Dealit707]

Check your history. Socialism is a failed economic system. It flys in the face of common sense, logic and, not to mention...human nature. You sound like you're young. As you get older, wiser and have real perspective, you will realize how wrong you are. Until then, read up on your history. It will always repeat itself if you don't heed its warnings.

[Peadarisback]

don't give me that i used to like capitalism then I woke up saw that the only reason it "works" (surrives) is because it abuses worker's payments and cheats the poor (look at Africa) sorry socialism is brilliant and Mao didn't have a "saddistic quest for power" the goverment before Mao was horrible Mao was greeted as a hero when he took office

[Dealit707]

WTF? Where the fuck are you from? Crazy land?

BTW; Mao was a sadistic murdering pig. Check history before you open your piehole and get the facts stright.

[Peadarisback]

um I did check history it's just see unlike you I like to see the "other side of the story" I just don't study the capitalist side have you ever heared of what Kruschev did to China? Well see Stalin invested a lot of money into China in 1950 or so when him and Mao became "alies" now Kruschev used "destalinization" (going against what ever Stalin did weather it be good or bad)so he took all the money out of China which froze it's indusry killing around 20 million people I'd say

[Dealit707]

Are you for real? Go back to the history books.

The deaths of millions of Chinese were the result of Moa's insane "Great Leap Foward" (1958-61). A 100 million starving peasants were forced to work on useless projects. Close to 38 million people died of starvation or overwork. On Dec.9, 1959 Moa said, "Deaths have benefits,"..."They can fertilise the ground."

Mao sent all their grain, for industrial debt payments, to Russia while millions of Chinese starved.

Mao was a Communist pig.

[Peadarisback]

no, no Russia (USSR) took all it's money out of the PRC (People's Republic of China) as part of Kruschev's "destaliniaztion." period which basicly was "do the oppiste to what ever Stalin did." (which was a good idea except for the rare good things that Stlin did) like in 1950 Stalin and Mao agreed to support each other's econameis and well Stalin invested in China and then when the "man of steal" died all that money was taken out and this froze China's industry's

[Peadarisback]

also your ignoering the fact THAT there where earthquakes and floods constantly during the period of the GLF and CR and the KMTs (the nationalist party in China) death toll is never counted by historaians when they mention Maoist China only Mao's is now on Mao himself he was a very weak leadear who had a good idea ("Maoism.") but was to weak to see it implimeanted fully he let the other communists basicly push him down and nearly out of the CCP

[Peadarisback]

in an attmpet to stop the peaceful coup that was going on within his own communist commite Mao launched the CR (Cultureral reoultion.) which was intended to bring culture back to China and to stop his communist party from destorying the land (which they where)

All of this failed obvioulsy but it was also thanks to the USSR, and espically earthquakes and floods (as I said before.)

[Peadarisback]

also you seem to think that EVERYTHING that the communist party of China did was Mao's decsion, this is stupied logic because Mao organized the party in a way that the hierarchy of the party (where he and a few others where) could be condemed and criticized by the lower ranks of the party so that both fractions could keep each other in check so no part of the party could make an economic descion (or any decsion) without consulting the other part of the party source:

[Peadarisback]

"Quotetations from Chairman Mao"/"The little red book."

[RickMuska]

@Peadarisback well didn't stalin actually LOAN the money to china and expected it returned with great interest? i thought Stalin feared china would overcome russia.. but i might be wrong cuz im ignorant

[Peadarisback]

actually more like 30 million and that's the ammount of people who (according to right wing historians) died during the GLF as for the CR (Cultural Revouliton) that wasn't started by Mao the pesaants went fanatical in that (to much for Mao's likeing eventually) and demanded that 800,000 landlords who where in prison be shot (these landlords shot thousands of pesants during WWII)Mao who believed that the communist party must serve the people did this for them

[Peadarisback]

oh and I've more proof the exceutons where demanded by the people today in china the people (almost violently) support state excutions (a goverment servey was carried out to prove this) becaue the crime rate in China is quite high so back then it was the same they wanted Mao to despoes of crinnimals. Also a lot of deaths in the CR where caused thanks to floods and earthquakes (mainly the latter) which killed millions

[UncleSam13]

Don't worry about Peadarisback. He is what Lenin called a "useful idiot'. If he had actually read any history he would know about the famine in the Ukraine under Stalin. Or that you can't use Africa as an excuse because of the example of India, a planned economy until the 1980's, and has seen 300 million people move into it's middle class in less than two decades.

If he wanted to learn he would read The Gulag Archipelago. But he doesn't; he wants to believe that North Korea is a success.

[cooki33girl]

fuck mao.

[Peadarisback]

fuck you

[icycold696]

if u like to use dirty word and hear it, then fuck you!!!

[MorganAnsons]

we have no government here....we have men playing god and the devil.

and the dice are always loaded dice

[MorganAnsons]

Mao's would have if he had trained the steel workers properly, and took it in stride.

Their excitement (greed) was the cause of the downfall.

People need to revert to what we had in the beginning, before money, we had a classless society, but perhaps one "leader", but everything was done in the group.

Socialism is what we had when we first roamed the earth, and we progressed.

Proof Socialism can work

[Peadarisback]

I agree that is a good idea

[MorganAnsons]

man kills himself.

and cries why.

there is no destiny other than the one we make.

there is to be no grand exceptions, we only base happiness by commodities and material things now.

We are no longer human.

[antisocialism]

共产主义是骗人的!马克思其实讨厌人类.并以均富倡导其所谓的共­产主义.其实!一点也不公平!很多人以共产主义者为名.以兇残手­段对待人民!一般只有共产国家领导人才好食好住!而人民是共产党­的奴隶!日做夜做!只有一点点饭食!这就是它所谓的剩馀价值.共­产主义国家,如同一个贪心资本家的工厂.老闆就大鱼大肉.而工人­就只有剩馀价值.马克思比资本家更贪心!更虚伪!

[MorganAnsons]

If people can get over the money thing. They are also forgetting soon there will be no planet left have the road you walk on after you exit your car and make way to your house that you seem to continually pay for.

[MorganAnsons]

If we take the time to learn from others mistakes, and remember, their promises of religious reward is just as bad as using promise of money or fame, Socialism to eventually Communism can work, it's how we started out here, on this planet. First people on this planet did not live alone, they lived in communes, together. And everything they did was for the community, and they thrived, or else we would not be here now. Think about that the next time you say it wouldn't work.

[Dealit707]

Communism is barbaric. It crushes the human spirit.

It served a purpose thousands of years ago when man was living in huts, and had the need to band together for basic daily survival, but those days are long gone into ancient history, and that's where Communism & Socialism should be.......In histories "Dust Bin".

[antisocialism]

毛泽东(大部份人称它为大肚毛,肥东)1893-1976 雄性!死後不能入士为安!死无葬身之地!现在已被中国人製成标本­!一般绝种动物也有此下场!生前给中国人暗 駡!死後给中国人大駡!毛泽东万衰!万衰!万万衰!它是卖国贼!­马克思,列宁走狗!在全中国人民食草食树根 导致骨瘦如柴的时候,它的身体也能长肉!贱肉横生!有人称它是肥­猪,马克思的狗奴才!龟公!其实!毛泽东是 禽兽都不如的杂种.

[antisocialism]

起来!不愿做共产党奴隶的人民!打倒共产党你们才有生天!如果不­是!你迟早死在共产党的枪下!起来!起来!起来来!

共产主义及社会主义是注定失败!现在全世界只有五个名字叫共产主­义国家国家. 有多少个正在搞资本主义呢?大家心照明白! 在共产国家的人民.个个做牛做马.而共产党的幹部就大鱼大肉.当­年毛泽东的肚子那麽大.中国人民个个都骨瘦如柴. 大家心里就明白了.穷产党!

当年很多中国人加入共产党! 你们知道为什麽吗? 是因为只有共产党员才好食好住. 如果是平民! 食草就有得食! 如果你拿毛泽东的照片跟中国百姓的照片一比. 你就会明白的了. 为什麽毛泽东的肚子是那麽大的呢? 那时候中国不是很穷吗? 他食了中国人民的屎, 所以肚了那麽大吧!

现在中国不是在共产党带领下一步一步的走向民族复兴! 而是中国人民放弃共产党及共产主义而搞资本主义而令中华民族复兴­!

西方的共产主义和社会主义是不适合中国的! 中国共产党应该将大陆归还中华民国政府. 然後实行人民民主选举中国总统.还政於民. 取消共党专政! 中国才有希望! 人权! 民主! 自由! 平等! 大方点吧! 共产党! 共产主义 = 穷!

[toybandit]

How do you expect people to work hard... if there is no benefit from working hard. Its a system that is bound to fail. Deng is a much better leader :) Just my 2 cents.

[sshapewa]

UR fucking right man!!IAM AN AFRICAN A LIVING PROOF THAT COMMUNISMASSHOLE DOES NOT ASSHOLE WORK!!! FUCK COMMIES AND EVERY FUCKING SUPPORTER!!!

[Osamabinlad]

cAlm down these people were working to make china a better place for the chinees. Mao caputured the peoples ideas of nationalism and that is present in every country. they wanted to make china great. As for the communist crack true communist will never work yet this was not communism this was simply a totalitarian state true communist countries have never ever existed because on person has always had to destroy it by being the leader communism is about sharing everything human nature prohibts it

[griparbelli]

U are only the proof the u accept the exploitation and the slavery of your continent.

U are only The proof that the class struggle exist on planetary level.

U are only the proof that one of your ancestor killed Patrice Lumumba.

[griparbelli]

toybandit, it appears u only know the private profit: the exploitation of the many for rewarding one.

The legendary struggle of a whole people for independence and socialism, crowned by an unprecedented victory shows that a benefit can and has to be collective if u have to feed and clothing and schooling a billion people exploited for centuries.

[damagejackal10]

This is hilarious!!

[OZZAZIM74]

this is absolute stupdity...Communism is all about LIES AND PROPAGANDA...they ruling elite prospers whilst the ordinary languishes in poverty..

[TaffyAlpha]

"this is absolute stupdity...Communism is all about LIES AND PROPAGANDA...they ruling elite prospers whilst the ordinary languishes in poverty.."

Sometimes it's not necessary to state the obvious

[Slitegoz]

Thanks to this video i understood a lot about China during mao's government, which will be my main theme during my school exam. Thank you for posting!

[shonum]

Mao's first concern was NOT economic

[kayuraaa]

lol,totally

[senselessbattery]

What was it?

[Dealit707]

His quest for sadistic power, and of course, the women.

[Camilo83]

Its sad really. All those people, working with the best of intentions, just for a big disaster. :(

[marcellogentile1]

Very interesting documentary

Thank you for posting it.

[Hartmann1984]

This is a great video.

First hand information.

[Politicsson]

Mao believes that he is pure communist and the Russians fake so kissinger manipulate the rift along the broader which cause sporadic skirmish .

(Top secret sensitive exclusive eyes only memorandum of conversation)

18/2/1973 1:20AM

Mao Zedong replying to Kissinger:

(And then let them get bogged down in china for half a year or one, or two, or three, or four years .And then you can poke your finger at the soviet back)

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