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  • Lets save some money, scrap EPA, OSHA,Dept of Education, TSA and other Gov't agencies that are "Helping Us" and go back to values that made the country great. No More Aid for Foreign "Friends". and Close about 100 Bases in the WWII countries and Korea that are useless today.

  • OK, climate sceptics: here's the raw data you wanted

    ' dispel the myths that the data has been inappropriately manipulated, and that we are being secretive," says the university's pro-vice-chancellor for research. "Some sceptics argue we must have something to hide... released the data to pull the rug out from those who say there isn't evidence that the global temperature is increasing'

    w w w.newscientist.c o m/article/dn20739-ok-climate-s­­ceptics-heres-the-raw-data-yo­u­-wanted.html

  • There are well more than 4 scientists. 31,000 scientists (9,000 with PHDs) that signed the anti-global warming petition. Watch the Great global warming swindle, which has over a dozen scientists dissagreeing with it

  • @ZIONISTMAN1 Yes and we know for sure that one of the "Meteorologist" who signed the petition isn't certified because he, well, majored in media in college. The explanation I can guess is that they aren't doing a good job of checking credentials. As far as the "Great Global Warming Swindle" climate skeptics that were used in that video said their data and view was distorted.

    Watch this video and check the sources yourself. watch?v=N2B34sO7HPM

    Also, Gore is no better than the deniers.

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  • @SurlyCalifornia

    where did I say everyone in the world was conspiring?

    stop drinking the coolaid. there is no concensus among scientists than the sky is falling. al gore is a spin doctor and misrepresents the science... and due to his hypocracy, the green faithful should hate him more than anyone.

  • @TAPriceCTR "there is no concensus among scientists"--

    Actually, there is. >97% of all climate scientists doing active research on the climate agree that we face an anthropogenic global warming. ~92 % of ALL climate scientists say the same, and it's supported by ~82% of all scientists in general. The quantity and quality of peer-reviewed published papers is even more obvious. The consensus is not a surprise at all, regarding the overwhelming evidence that point to AGW.

  • @TAPriceCTR The consensus is also endorsed by all leading scientific organisations, national academies, research institutes and universities worldwide.

    References:

    "Examining the Scientific Consensus on Climate Change", Doran / Kendall-Zimmerman, 2009;

    "Expert credibility in climate change", Anderegg et al., 2010;

    "The Scientific Consensus on Climate Change", Oreskes, 2004.

  • @MaluronLurette

    this is because anyone who disagrees with the greens is labled a heretic. ever hear of max mayfield? in 05 the greens demanded he step down from head of NOAA and the national hurrican center when he refuted their claims that katrina was the start of a pattern. if I go to an lds church and ask who believes the book of mormon I am going to find a concensus, that does not mean there is a concensus among all christians that the BOM is true. they black list disenters.

  • @TAPriceCTR "this is because anyone who disagrees with the greens is labled a heretic"--

    No. It's because the research results show it.

    "if I go to an lds church and ask who believes the book of mormon I am going to find a concensus"--

    That argument makes no sense at all. Religious beliefs aren't based on rationality and research, it has nothing to do with a scientific consensus. The consensus in science is not a case of opinion, it's a case of accepting the results of research.

  • @MaluronLurette

    really? how much personal research have you done? I have written 2 college papers on it and even in hte heaviy biassed "climate change journal" I found evidence to support the claims of boon rather than bane. if you were scientific you would see that my analogy applies... it is not about religion, it is about a biased sample to produce concensus. again. your beloved green leadership tried outting max mayfield for refuting their predictions (and in the end he was proven right)

  • @TAPriceCTR I'm neither interested your curriculum vitae nor in your political rants and tirades, and I will ignore further comments that don't make a rational argumentation on topic.

  • about MaluronLurette:

    behold what the greens call the scientific method!!! "you don't agree with our concensus so you do not count and I'm not going to listen to you" This is the same method as imprisoned galileo for life and executed socrates.

  • Hmmm a guy with an agenda, theres nothing like unbiased reporting is there.

    Just picking up on one thing, apparently CO2 is a pollutant !! But they must know that if it falls below 150ppm then all plantlife on the planet dies and most of us with it - I dont understand how this rubbish continues to spoken about seriously.

  • the travesty is that is it a "travesty" that they can't account for something. real scientists would rather end up knowing the truth than to have data support an incorrect hypothesis.

    the REAL MYTH is that global warming is a bad thing. anyone who agreed "the planet has warmed and man might have an influence on that" is labled as buying the entire gore package.

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  • The divergent data was date from 1962-2010...

    Cenk is either incredibly naive or a liar.

  • Wow, actually everything Cenk said in this video is a lie. If anything convinces you that TYT should not be relied on, it is this video..

    Type in 'hide the decline explained' into your search and see for yourself...

  • GO WATCH MY : V- FOR VICTORY VIDEO ITS A WINNER

  • why do people regect science?

  • This guy is mentally incompetant, though I will give him some credit for trying to spin the information in the e-mails. That's how he got a job at MSNBC.

  • this asshole has always had an answer for everything

    they could have an email that says "we the climate scientists were lying all along everything is false" and this prick would say well you only founf one email saying that out of 13 years blah blah blah fuckin idiot

  • @rigatony019 Yes he is a complete dong - I love the way he's still clinging to the phoney left/right duellist paradigm.

  • @Kennedy369 There are different factions within the elite, so left-right is somewhat true...although, there is no left anymore, just the "left".

  • @tstruss912 I know where you heard that mate. However at the very top there are just murderous bastards who want to control everything - you are right in the sense that we're still in a duellist consciousness - completely polarised. So we basically have Left and Right due to the primary coding of reality. This will change and if it doesn't we're all fucked. Take care brother

  • @Kennedy369 Right you are. People are prone to "us and them" thinking and that's why we still have the "left/right" bullshit going. The left is dead and gone lol....RIP left. Good luck in the struggle...and remember that you're not alone. There are many of us, and together we have the power.

  • @tstruss912 Yes we do. Namaste

  • Our glorious flat Earth isn't warming up anytime soon!

    even if it were, Jesus will surely come back and save all his believers!

  • Humans do not affect the climate in any significant way.

  • watching the turks talk is like watching Rocky Balboa do maths

    YO ADRIAN

  • BTW CO2 is not a pollutant, if you consider it a pollutant then the entire life cycle is polluting. Nearly every form of life on this planet either makes CO2 or makes oxygen it is part of the life cycle. If you believe CO2 is a pollutant we need to kill all the animals as well as most of the people since we are all polluting the planet.

  • @thebestsumoeva hay im with you an just too ad some facts it was called the medieval war period where is was hotter an more CO2 from 950 to 1250 AD than today FACT go look it up people who dont believe me BAM

  • He is right this was the hottest decade in recorded history. We started recording in the 1950's at the end of a mini ice age. We have also been cooling off the past few years hence why he has to say decade not year. Ice core studies have showed both that CO2 levels have been higher in history and have gone up faster than they are today. The samples also show that temperatures have been higher in history so what we are seeing today is completely normal.

  • THE END OF THE WORLD IS ALMOST HERE!HOLY GOD WILL BRING JUDGMENT DAY ON MAY 21,2011.

  • @2011iam4god LOL

  • typical left wing moron, the green movement is the communist movement, just wait till they bring in depopulation and the police state this clown will still be cheering for it

  • Yea from cap trade goverments will take the money and magicaly will throw it in the air to take out C02 :D #LOL

  • "Climate change" is now becoming "climate disruption". It makes it sound more like we're disrupting a natural cycle and points more of a finger at human beings and lets groups and governments pass legislation and taxes.

  • What seems extremely moronic about AGW proponents is the idea that Earth, is what, climatically static, unless of course humanity has something to do with it and then it’s a global crisis that there is a warming or cooling?

    Why cannot ABW proponents wrap their minds around the idea, the possibility, that this is a political-corporate financial scam?

    Even more so, why are AGW proponents not equally concerned about pollution, toxic waste, and deforestation, which IMO, is the REAL crisis.

  • Will ANY country take Cenk? Free agent to be named later is FINE just take him.

  • "Corporate giants, many of whom are directly tied in with big oil, and central banks who, far from bankrolling climate change skeptics, are directly invested in the scam of human-induced global warming.

    Accusations leveled against global warming skeptics is that they are on the payroll of transnational oil companies, when in fact the opposite is true, oil companies are amongst the biggest promoters of climate change propaganda, emphasized recently by Exxon Mobil's call for a global carbon tax."

  • Monday morning quarteback, back tracking is easy. They got caught, grow up and admit it and quit trying to smooth it over. The world is getting warmer, but why are governments spending 100% in funding climate research to prove climate change is mans fault and not spending money to see if it is natural? You need to spend equally to get the truth. Only when you hear both sides of a story do you get the truth. Thats what science is about, finding the truth, so lets fund natural climate change to.

  • This is why I love TYT: they do their homework and they bring sense to the table!

    And Cenk is so right..."It's about the money, Lebowski!"

  • don't quit your day job turk

  • oh you dismissed it, makes a big difference i hate liberal yuppies=ignorant

  • dr.turk,where did you get your framable 8x10 glossy diploma to tack on your wall?

    epa said ground zero was not a hazard for dying first responders,or even you to breath,wish you were here,snorting the yellow snow that covered ny,for the lead roll in a cage.

    climate change=political change

  • Did anyone notice how fast "Global Warming" switched to "Climate Change"???

  • @NuAnarchy It is newspeak for global warming.

  • @NuAnarchy "Climate Change" is actually more accurate in a regional sense: For example, the cold winter weather systems that hover around Greenland, (as predicted) have begun to shift toward Europe, causing normal crappy weather in places like England, to become even colder and shittier. 

  • @NuAnarchy Yeah, that was a scam cooked up by Frank Luntz to help politicians trick the American people into believing that climate change is a hoax.

  • @NuAnarchy

    It was always called climate change by scientists. Popular media and hollywood called it global warming because it is more catchy

  • @NuAnarchy No it didn't.

  • @NuAnarchy You can thank Mr. Bush for that. I recommend using global warming, it's much more specific.

  • WOW, HE JUST TOTALLY DISCREDITED HIMSELF....

  • Uh,this guys credentials are what?Maybe he has an agenda,you think?Maybe the sun has something yo do with all this,you think.The only thing perverse is this young turk babbling about this.

  • The Journal he's referring to is Climate Research. The paper was by willy sun and sallie baliunas. The paper was a meta analysis of papers from the  last number of years. It was riddled with errors that any peer reviewer would have picked up on. As a result scientists believed the paper had been published without any peer review. 7 editors of the paper later resigned. The editor is know global warming skeptic. Nothing wrong with that, but he broke the golden rule of peer review system.

  • 12:35 So what your saying is that the government should use the EPA to bypass the democratic process and force your agenda onto America with out giving the people any say. Wow sounds like Glenn Beck is right about progressives being Nazis.

  • this guy obviously got paid a shit load to say this.

  • Reported history only goes back to the late 1800's, and since then, we have been coming out of one of the coldest periods in the last few thousand years. In the "Little Ice Age" just 2 to 4 centuries ago, glaciers encroached on villages. Since then, we have been warming gradually, so it is no wonder that the most recent decade has been the warmest on record, when the record only goes back 130 years or so. It doesn't prove that humans are causing it or that we have the power to change it.

  • I just want to know why this guy wants to promote this scam, when there is no real science that proves CO2 causes global warming. Even after spending billions of our tax dollars since 1988 trying to prove it, there is still no proof, just a scheme to make us all pay more for our CO2 output. In fact, satellite and balloon data shows no warming in the troposphere, when the models said there would be, invalidating their whole theory.

  • Fabian Schill

  • where's the science cenk?

  • 2 or 3 Scientist don't agree ? Dude, you might want to check your facts a bit.

    The fact that he thinks that the EPA can pass laws is just scary. We live in a Representative Republic...... not a Dictatorship.

    What a shame, People will believe just about anything these days. This is all about ANOTHER money grab, and nothing else. Anything that comes around and the ONLY fix is that YOU give up money and Rites, is most likely a Scam.....Like Global warming. Wake up folks

  • @twindwick

    Noooooo, I'm in russia.

    Of course I'm in USA.

  • @twindwick

    Aren't you Canadian?

    I thought you guys get good education up there.

    Any way why would you care.

  • @twindwick

    Murcury my ass, every study done ever should that murcury was not the cause.

    It was just some celebrity who looked it up on the internet and made some guesses.

    The original Doctor who said that the mercury was causing harm said later that he had no evidence to back up his claims. Just because there are videos of it on you tube doesn't make it true. There are videos of zombies but it doesn't make it true.

    Your standard of evidence is really low.

  • @twindwick

    ALL the evidence is there but you choose to not look at it, you rather have your half baked conspiracy theories than look at reality.

  • @twindwick.

    I bet you think I'm brain washed but I bet you think the world is 4000 years old, don't you?

  • rfgiko

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  • @twindwick

    watch?v=pA6FSy6EKrM

    every one already knows, still doesn't mean AGW isn't real.

  • P.s all the studies done show that it wasn't the mercury causing Alzheimer, I guess you would rather listen to celebrities than scientists.

  • @twindwick

    I agree on cap and trade, Enron and there buddies want it.

    Europe tried it already, it is an awful plan. Al gores 5 point plan is way better.

    USE YOUR FUCKING COMMON SENSE, WHY WOULD THOUSANDS OF SCIENTISTS AROUND THE WORLD JUST MAKE UP DATA AND SPEND MILLIONS STUDYING AGW.

    "Next you're gonna tell me vaccines and mercury fillings are good for me right"

    I am wondering what do you think of evolution and the big bang, I see you don't like science much.

    

  • @twindwick

    Your just paranoid, go to any university and talk to the science professors if they accept AGW.

    second, who is really following the money, who is richer gore or oil companies, go with BP and destroy another ecosystem, according to you it doesn't matter.

    third, science is not a beleive, if you think it is you are a supreme dumb ass.

  • @twindwick "All their life manipulating graphs and putting out a lie. I know.....and they do it very well! Most of the public will believe a lie before they except the truth. "

    wow as a future scientist (in biochemistry) I am just astounded by your lack of common sense, why would thousands of scientists waste there life on such dishonest research, it is against the scientific method and doesn't benefit humanity.

    Science is not a belief, study the scientific method.

  • @twindwick

    Actually al gore learned everything he knows now from scientists that spend all there lifes on this. No scientist, except those getting funded by energy companies, deny AGW.

    You get your facts from conspiracy, I get them from statistics.

  • @twindwick

    Talk about rejecting the truth, keep believing your fairy tales instead of the evidence.

    oVER 15 years, thousands of emails, ONLY out of 10 emails who people took out of context.

    yOUR SUCH A CORPORATE TOOL.

  • @twindwick

    Paranoid enough?

  • climategate is a complete joke. The level of intelligence of people saying "Oh it was doctored! They hid the decline!" are a complete joke and have their mind set on one thing. They 'hid the decline' with a known technique or 'trick' that has been known and publicly available for a long time. People's complete ignorance and unwillingness to actually look at the data and pay more attention to the politics is idiotic.

  • Woohoo, Himalayagate consists of a typo in a 3000 page document. Wow, big conspiracy.

  • Phil Jones' CRU has been investigated by:

    1. The House of Commons' Science and Technology Select Committee

    and

    2. An international panel of academics set up by the University of East Anglia.

    The findings of both inquiries are now in. Here they are:

    1. ww w.publications.parliament.u k/pa/cm200910/cmselect/cmsctec­h/387/387i.p d f

    2. ww w.uea.a c.u k/ma c/c omm/media/press/CRUstatements/­SAP

    (remove spaces)

    Professor Jones and the CRU were exonerated by both inquiries.

  • Climate-gate is for political reasons and for the ratings for the media..false issue...yep..it's all lobbyist run deception..keep the status quo keep profits high..the lobbyist are going crazy

  • oh, this young Turk is sooooo objective..

  • Learn the truth. Watch Fall Of The Republic on you tube.

  • All data in correlation with scietific analysis will have outliers simply because there is natural types of transport phenomena that alters the general statistical curve. One mistake out of the thousands and thousands of legitimate articles.....yeah, global warming is real. We can keep putting it off and keep fooling ourselves, but let's get real and observe the overall data...We're killing the earth. Thus we're still killing ourselves.

  • @imita01 there are at best a hundred or so "legitimate" articles.. most of the AGW supporting ones, if not all, are based on computer models, or are citing those as a proof. Mann didnt make a mistake, he cheated.. the simple fact is that the observed temps dont support any sort of catastrophic scenarios.. that is why there is always "new data" to explain why the Earth isnt cooking just yet, and why the previous models were wrong

  • @dinkolino2..... I've read a lot of articles.... the problem is the articles you speak off....does not observe all the data...only the data to help prove the theory you believe in.... try to observe everything that is empirical, and lastly what the fuck do you mean the earth's not cooking... it's warmer everywhere at an unnatural rise.... and land is disappearing unsteadily.... take the weak shit home.... don't bother me.... go read the books....

  • @dinkolino2 Do you have any idea how a climatologist uses a climate model and what goes into it?

    No of course you don't.

    You are a science denying LIAR. Plain and simple. EVERYTHING you say is wrong and lies made up from some lying anti science website.

  • i said progressive liberals but perhaps i should have just said progressives. its increasingly obvious that we have been duped by both sides...

  • dont forget the one dude, dont remember his name, resigned and admited they fudged the numbers. this may have happened after the date of this video, i dunno, but maybe its time for cena to do an update, or he is just a hypocrit like the rest of the progessive liberals he is trying to defend

  • hate spam!

  • bigger picture = cap and trade. It's all about passing legislation. That is it. How many people know how cap & trade really works? or better yet, if it would work at all? I think if people knew more about it they'd want al gore's head on a stick.

  • @mattydigs sorry to let ya know.. Cap & Trade is a republican plan the dems took over in order to get something done..it is a worthless plan with the sole intention of making it easier for corporations to continue to pollute by buying carbon ( pollution ) credits from carbon neutral ( non-polluting ) companies

  • @mattydigs

    It does work. We have been using cap and trade for years on various emissions such as SO2, with great success I might add.

  • @mattydigs You're a tool. Just because some morons want to get rich off of it, doesn't mean that climate science is wrong.

  • @MasatoshiHamada1

    The very fact that the Climategate researchers, up to their eyeballs in grant money of course, felt like (their tone was obvious) their job as scientists was not to find out the truth but rather to prove Al Gore right no matter what the means.... is a very scary thing!!!

    Its become like a religion.. and dumb people are even more easily swayed by all the Gore scare tactics because there is-- get this "SCIENCE" behind all this. Too bad the science is corrupt and manipulated!!

  • @bobshenix science isn't a religion. Stfu

  • @MasatoshiHamada1

    GLOBAL WARMING is

  • @MasatoshiHamada1 people are putting faith in anything called science, like a religion

  • @mattydigs NO ALL THESE RETARDS WHO THINK THE WORLD IS DIEING NEED TO SHUT THE FUCK UP. I WORK IN THE OIL PATCH AND SO DO A LOT OF PPL AND ALL THIS CAP N TRADE IS A SCAM. IT WILL KILL JOBS FOR LOTS AND THE FUCKIN TREE HUGGERS HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT THE REAL HURT THIS WILL IMPOSE ON JOBS!!

  • @mattydigs Or you could say: bigger picture = oil companies making money. Why is one theory right and the other wrong? I think there is more proof pointing toward the oil companies; furthermore, we don't have to pick between the tax and more pollution - we could cutback on pollution and also not pay the tax....it's up to us.

  • Who is this guy? Global warming is fake! Hold on let me be clear, "MAN MADE" global warming is fake. Climate change is real, but it is not because of CO2 emmsions from "HUMAN BEINGS". Nearly every living organism emmits CO2 or absorbs it. Let me define Climate change: The melting of ice caps during the last ice age 20,000 years ago or during the mini ice age. These trends do not happen over night and can't be measured over the course of 1 life. 15 years of cooling = warming?

  • @MrJohnWayne145

    Man made global warming is real.

    /watch?v=5Pjbykd2ywU

  • I have to say (although I hope previous comments already said it), Cenk is doing a poor job of defending climate science. He got the divergence backwards. Thermometers showed warming. Tree rings failed to show growth as expected with warming. He makes it sound like scientists were secretly conspiring against the journal Climate Science, when in fact they publicly resigned in protest. I wish scientists received more attention than lawyers like Cenk when discussing these important matters.

  • progress that would have happened alot sooner if there wasnt a "if darwin said it it must be true" rule in the science world.

  • Actually, there was a LOT of debate about evolution, whether it was Darwin who was right or Lamarck who was right, and much of the scientific community was strongly opposed. It was only once Darwin was proven to be right time after time, by people from many different fields, from physiology to genetics to paleontology to paleobotany, that they finally concluded that Darwin, while not having the details, was basically right.

  • YoungDouche= Fail.

    Fat stupid guy, thinks he can somehow change our perception, Science is about being objective, and when you have people saying '' We cant account for the lack of warming,and its a travesty that can't''

    There goes the objectivity of the science, It clearly shows there is an agenda behind.

    So therefore YT shills fail. Watch REALNEWS instead of this fat jerk, work his way around an issue like a lawyer. He obviously sucks @ because he would have a hard time convincing a child

  • @dellbalboa You are a fucking idiot. Out of context taking fucking moron. Can't read books reads nothing at all!

  • Here we go another halfwit zombie retard telling people to read a book, what have you done so far apart from the ad hominems? Just because you're stupid cunt! who doesnt understand the simplest concept, stop with your propaganda you half wit shill, you're a ignorant bastard. you're the one who should read more often fuckwit.

    GET A CLUE! YOU FUCKING MORON!

    LAST REPLY. DONT WASTE TIME WITH FUCKTARDS

  • this fat lying cunt is using Neuro Linguistic Programming. Thats Darren Brown shit for those that haven't heard of it. He is 100% working for the government.

    why dont you fuck off and die you slimey turd.

  • what an idiot cenk is 'maybe you shouldnt have stolen their private emails'...maybe serpico should have just shut up. or john dean, etc

  • Soooo....consensus is science? I thought it was about fact? Truth?

  • Also stop trying to make it about Left and Right!!

    There is no left or right and especially not in the state they try and organise it.

  • The entire atmosphere makes Earth between 18-20 degrees C warmer than if it wasnt here.

    CO2 is only 300 parts per billion of our atmosphere. Even if we could mess with 1 part in 3000 or 1 part in 300 do you think us humans can make a difference to that?

    And besides that you have to look at the actions of government for instance, the EU has given Corus steelworks £600million to leave the highly regulated safe UK to go to India.

    What they do is counter productive if they believe in GW

  • "..it's called 'Mike's nature trick'". haha. We're not all as stupid as you. Talking about a trick in the context of hiding something obviously indicates unethical manipulation. The divergence of proxy data from instrumental data questions the reliability of temp. models before instrumental date existed (1850)...which is why they did the trick to smooth out the divergence.

    Face it...a over a decade of cooling + climategate = man-made global warming is a scam & you look stupid. Just give up.

  • @wgmyler

    "2005 was the warmest year since the late 1800s, according to NASA scientists. 1998, 2002 and 2003 and 2004 followed as the next four warmest years. "

    "2009 was tied for the second warmest year in the modern record, a new NASA analysis of global surface temperature shows."

    What cooling are you referring to?

  • Your reading surface temps. not tropospheric temperatures. They have cooled down........... this is important because the GREENHOUSE EFFECT ( CO2 ) happens in the Tropo. Surface temps.are contaminated with UHI. but not the Troposphere.

  • @uboat21 The troposphere IS the surface fucking moron. The troposphere goes from the surface and extends miles up. This is where the greenhouse effect is occurring. WTF fucking goon.

  • @watercup123456 surface temps are usually refered to when talking about ground based weather stations

  • @dinkolino2 What the fuck are you babbling about you incoherent science denying lunatic?

  • Look up the Mid-evil warming period

  • @acidgawd999

    thats the point of climate gate. they have been messing with the climate data for 10 years. so all the stuff you quoted are not credible.

  • so the global warming started before any significant man made co2 emissions.

    if 2009 was "second warmest" and 2005 the warmest year (which it wasnt according to the satellite data) there is the cooling right there (at record co2 levels). Not that you need any cooling to disprove AGW, since 15 yrs of record high co2 emissions (and atmospheric co2 levels) failed to increase the average temp during that period by as much as 0.1 C.

  • Not really sure what your first sentence is addressing. Global warming and cooling have occurred in the past but current warming is being caused by man.

    To you other point or non-point, it is extremely difficult to establish a statistically significant trend over a time interval as short as 15 years.

  • @dinkolino2 What the fuck are you babbling about?

    No there isn't cooling right there. LEARN TO READ A GRAPH YOU STUPID LOSER OMFG

    ROFL EVERYTHING you say is wrong!

  • @wgmyler What the fuck are you babbling about you idiot?

  • ok im back wheres your cap and trade wheres your health care like we all said its a bust... LOL look how pathetic you all look! tryn to tax the people to death! FAILED now go find real solution to energy... STEVEN GREER describes what Tesla was on to and will replace the grid as we know it suck on that carbon turky jerk

  • YoungJerks = propagandist.

  • Sorry TYT but the scientists did hide the decline and changed the facts which completely obliterates the whole man-made global warming scam.

    The sun causes global warming not hummers. Even kids know that.

  • @Pacmaniacone how come the observed solar output shows no low-frequency change over the last 70 years, yet global mean temperature has risen then?

  • The Institute for Astronomy in Zurich say that over the last century the number of sunspots rose at the same time that the Earth's climate became steadily warmer. Looking at the past 1,150 years the Sun has never been as active as it has been during the past 60 years.

    Over the past few hundred years, there has been a steady increase in the numbers of sunspots, a trend that has accelerated in the past century, just at the time when the Earth has been getting warmer.

  • @Pacmaniacone But there's no overall rise in the solar output since accurate measuerements began in '78:

    Google NASA + Total Solar Irradiance you'll find a plot of the solar output measurements on the NASA ftp server..(under the 'composite' section)

    Surely that series should be rising if the sun's out put had increased in the last ~30 years (which has seen the most T increases)?

    cheers.

  • these people got rocks in their head i hear you though fake science totally...

  • I guess NASA conducts fake science also when they say solar activity is higher than ever before.

  • different subject were talking about co2.... and yes NASA has faked science

  • @Pacmaniacone What the fuck are you talking about moron?

  • Been researching a bit on the subject. The main point of discussion among news sources seems to be the 1940's anomaly, which was where the distortion was made. If you read the full emails, you realize that the scientists were trying to explain or edit what happened in the 1940's in order to explain the anomaly. It's not unusual for any statistic to do something to the outlier.

    Statistics folks.

  • It is very clear that Fat Turk does not know what he is talking about.  Fat Turk does not understand the issues.

  • The data does NOT show what has caused the warming.

    Actually, many leading climatologists do not agree with the IPCC. The IPCC is a political body, not scientific.

    I am now convinced that MAN MADE global warming is a scam.

  • I'm convinced that you are a moron. Go argue with a thermometer you fool.

  • I am convinced that you are a moron who can't think for himself. You are a lemming.

    The ice age ended because of the internal combustion engine?

    The earth has cooled since 1998 because China and India are spewing even more CO2 into the atmosphere?

    The earth's warming over the last 100+ has a greater correlation with the number of MLB teams than CO2. No new teams means no warming. It must be the hotdog and beer consumption.

    I HOPE YOU'RE FREEZING YOUR ASS OFF.

  • You are DEAD wrong. Hiding the decline is what it means. It means that their models for calculating long term climate change are wrong. If their models can't track current ACTUAL temperature trends why would anyone think it can calculate what temperatures were hundreds of years ago.

    Garbage in, garbage out.

    While I do not create climate models for a living, I do create computer models for a living. There is NO WAY what they did would past the muster.

  • What the hell is it with '-gate'. Yes I understand Watergate, but we're beating it with a dead horse

    (Yes I mean it like that.)

  • Lycaon43,

    The consumption of fossil fuels increased 1200% after 1945, but the rate of warming DECREASED !

    The world has been warming since the Little Ice Age, 200 years ago, without any help from man.

    "isn't man-made, it is still a terrible problem, correct?"

    Wrong !! Compare the day to day temperature variation where you live with 0.6 degrees av. warming in the past 100 years. Alarmist nonsense.

    CO2 levels have been 7 times as high; temps 6 degrees higher since mammals walked

  • Global drying can not be discussed as a non-warming cause of terrestrial ice melts unless you propose a mechanism for such a change that has not occurred in millenia, and the most likely candidate to me would be global warming.

  • There are many other types of evidence also which suggest warming that has not been seen in 5000-55000 years, fairly conclusive also. Mummified paleobiologic material that has not been through any freeze thaw cycles (except its initial entombment) is being washed from melting glaciers worldwide. Such disproves in my mind the notion of a Medieval Warming Period for example, or at least no level of warming greater than what is seen today in many millennia.

  • Anybody who thinks global warming is a hoax is a fucking idiot. Grow a brain you fucking troglodytes.

  • Of course its not a hoax ... the world has been warming since the Littel Ice Age.

    The hoax is that man has caused it.

  • You are brainwashed.  Go educate yourself.

  • Try looking at the data instead of showing how stupid you are.

    Any other half witted alarmists should tell us all exactly what is evidence for man caused warming ?

    Please also give a page reference to the latest IPCC report giving any evidence. There is none !

  • I have looked at the data, asshole. I suggest you look at some science instead of listening to right wing crazies conspiracy theories.

  • C'mon pea brain ... it can't be that hard can it ?

    Show us the evidence !

    Cat got your tongue, you stupid little boy ?

  • @sydneydoc

    What about, you know, the consumption and use of greenhouse-gas producing fossil fuels?

    And even if the global warming isn't man-made, it is still a terrible problem, correct?

  • Global warming is a scare tactic used to create a common enemy (humanity) in order to unite the world in a global effort of crippling our economies with more taxes. Global warming is all about a power grab by a wealthy elite and their collectivist sycophants—using the U.N. as a cover and tool. Ultimately, they believe that the world population is too big for the planet to support. Ever heard of the Georgia guidestones?

  • Here's a quote from the "First Global Revolution," published by the Club of Rome where they admit to creating the hoax of man made global warming.

    "In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill. All these dangers are caused by human intervention, and it is only through changed attitudes and behavior that they can be overcome. The real enemy then, is humanity itself."

  • "why are people saying we are headed for an ice age if the earth is warming?"

    because people are retarded....

  • @goobergel No, because if the ice melts it can change the direction of the mexican golf and thereby stop providing some parts of this world with heat thus making a new ice age.

  • @manutd94fanman

    Um.....ouch.....something about thermite covered smurfs....I'm going to assume this was intended to be ironic.