Pre-trib vs. 7th Trump vs. Post-trib Raptures: Matthew 24 Explained

[afaithfulone4you]

Cont.. The Man Child in Rev 12 is the birth of the sons of God who are the true holy body of Christ,for Rev is given to John by Christ, for things to future come, not of Jesus' natural birth that was past. There are 3-1/2 yrs from that point where those who were not worthy to escape will go to a place prepared by God and satan is cast down to earth to TEMPT man into horrific sins for their Wrath of God to take place for the GREAT TRIBULATION.Two witnesses,earthquake in Jerusalem,7th trump,sons

[afaithfulone4you]

Cont.. This one is when he comes WITH the saints who WERE earlier gathered from the earth & heaven.

Matt 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes OF THE EARTH MOURN, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a TRUMPET, and they shall gather together his ELECT from the four winds, from one end of HEAVEN to the other.

Armageddon

[afaithfulone4you]

There are two comings but only the Elect see him in the first and it is the mystery as in Rev 10:7.No announcement, no mourning,elect gathered from earth & those resting under the altar in heaven will arise first to come to meet....

Mark 13:26 And then shall THEY see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.

27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his ELECT from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the EARTH to the uttermost part of HEAVEN.

[WCOFTheology]

Matthew 24 is about the events of A.D.70.

[JimmyCarol100]

I just want some pretribber to explain to me that while the Lamb, Christ Jesus, being the only one able to open the 7 seal scroll, at what point He lays down the scroll and descends from heaven and raptures the church and then goes back to the throne and finishs opening the seals until the 7th where it is said that the mystery of GOD is revealed and finished n Rev 10:6/7, after the 7th seal broken is when Christ returns the 2nd Coming. Peace2All

[DarkStarAZ]

The Millerites based it on Daniel - 1744. Hal Lindsey fans based it on the founding of Israel, plus 40 yrs= 1988, mi d tribbers. DEFINITELY by 1990! ABSOLUTELY by 2000!! Camping - May 21st, Oct 21st and Oct 31st 2011. No ifs buts about it - it WILL happen in 2011.

Given up worrying about it.

[reignwithchrist]

Who populates the millenium? The answer is the survivors. Read Zechariah 14:16-21. Also read Joel 2:10-14. Also read Zechariah 12:9-14. Have you ever thought, why are these people mourning? They are mourning because they now know that they were wrong. Yet even now, the Lord pours on these people a spirit of grace and mercy.You assume that there are only 2 categories of people left at the 2nd coming (mark takers & tribulation saints). What about those that don't take the mark? Just think.

[reignwithchrist]

The problem is that there are too many idols in America. One idol that seems to plague most of all is the idol of comfort. Jesus promised us that in this world we would have tribulation.

So, according to your theory what would happen to the saints that died during the great tribulation at the 2nd coming? Would they be resurrected? If so, now you have 2 resurrections because you also had one pre trib. If not, what happens to them?

That takes too much time. That made me laugh out loud.

[tmalone10]

@reignwithchrist pre-trib rapture is not a resurrection & never has been considered 1. Every time a resurrection is mention it is clearly identified as a resurrection. The rapture is completely different and is distinguished as such as a snatching away in a moment in the twinkling of an eye. Resurrections on several occasions (2 witnesses) are many times slow so that every eye can witness it. Not so with the one time pre-trib rapture. It will happen faster than the human eye can process.

[reignwithchrist]

@tmalone10 Pre trib rapture is not a resurrection? You have now officially lost any credibility with me. Forget Post Trib vs Pre trib. The so called "rapture" is obviously accompanied by a resurrection. There is no need for you to respond, as it would be a utter waste of time. What exactly are the dead in Christ in 1 Corinthians 15:52 or 1 thes 4:16? I guess you would say that those aren't rapture passages either, right?

[tmalone10]

@reignwithchrist the rapture is known as the raptue and a resurrection is specifically known as a resurrection. The rapture is never called a resurrection. Post-trib theory would have you believe that they are inter-changeable but they are not. Of course, I or no self respecting pre-trib. rapture Bible prophecy teacher will have credibility with you. Through Bible research we disprove what you hang your rapture theory on.

[tmalone10]

@reignwithchrist Stop trying to convince people that the rapture is a resurrection so you can connect it to Rev. 20:5-6. But let's explore that thought. If that is the rapture, then the dead in Christ will rise followed by Christians alive on the earth (at end of trib period). Who populates the millennium? All that are left are those who took mark. Can't be Jewish remnant. Can't be those who took mark. Can't be those who supposedly didn't take mark or accept Jesus. Who is it?

[reignwithchrist]

@tmalone10 I already told you with scripture who these people were that populate the millenium if you would read my posts you would already know that. Instead, you give answers that completely change the subject matter, or you just say, "I answered that in other videos and articles." You haven't answered it.  That's why the questions come.

I'm not trying to convince anyone anything. I am just reading and quoting scripture. Will you fall away when the pre trib rapture doesn't happen?

[tmalone10]

@reignwithchrist I will address all these questions in another commonsense video, with scripture in context, so I don't have to address them ten different times to ten different people.  Thanks for your input.

[tmalone10]

@reignwithchrist if you attempt to come back with any of the 3 I mentioned that scripture absolutely declares with direct scripture that it can't be, your wasting your time. Those arguments have already been fought and disapproven easily. Even your own camp won't ask me those questions anymore. You're coming late to the party friend.

[tmalone10]

@reignwithchrist As I said, the rapture is specifically known as the rapture and not a resurrection. It includes a resurrection but that is not the context of the passage in I Cor. or I Thess. The Christians in I Thess knew there was going to be a rapture, but were concerned about their Christian loved ones who had already passed. Would they be raptured? The answer is yes, there rapture (of the dead) would precede us. In context this scripture is specifically referring to a rapture not ress

[tmalone10]

@reignwithchrist frankly, I have explained this error before. It would be helpful to me if you would look in the comments to see if this subject has been dealt with before. I would appreciate it. Thank you

[tawboyle]

There are SO many places in Scripture that say "He who stands firm until THE END will be saved." When is "the end?" Please Lord open our eyes to understand Your Word and help us to eagerly watch for you, no matter when that takes place regarding the tribulation/etc, and to be about Your business Father! <3

[makeitbeats21]

To me it looks like you are saying that Christians Believers in Christ can be left behind and not saved by Jesus so they can be ruled my Us the Believing Saints. How is that possible when Jesus said Joh 6:39-40 And this is the will of him who sent me, that I should lose nothing of all that he has given me, but raise it up on the last day. For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.

[popsicle161]

many post-trib believers claim we shall go under satan's wrath. Ok let me ask them this.who is more powerful? God, or satan? God is under control of every power in this earth, so why would he allow satan to beat up his bride, and then watch the bride suffer after being bashed and beaten and marry her after she is beaten?! what king of a God is that? basically u post-trib ppl make God look like a sardist. One who thrives to watch his bride suffer, hen marry her when she is battered. what a shame!

[tawboyle]

@popsicle161 Ummm... aren't there believers who are suffering even now? Being beaten and bruised and even put to death while God has to watch? We (the church) are His bride even now, regardless of when He returns. And better yet... didn't He also have to watch His Son suffer those very things?

"what a shame!"?? Please don't try to place shame or guilt on people as they seek the Lord in this area. Pray for them (and yourself as well) that they would understand clearly what His Word says. :)

[popsicle161]

the teaching of the post-trib rapture is so deceiving to believers! it is the devils tool to cause christians to lose faith! There are many post-trib believers who have went out and bought guns, water bottles, and canned food! some claim they are waiting for the Anti-Christ to come out! what nonesense is this?! If God wants them (post-trib) ppl to go through trib, then why are they buying food to survive? if it is God's will, then they should not try to survive! it will be the worst of times!

[tawboyle]

@popsicle161 I'm still asking the Lord to reveal to me what His Word truly teaches (rather than man's opinion) on this topic... but maybe they're trying to survive to share Christ with more people? Maybe they're trying to be about the Father's business?

[popsicle161]

I have a question to the post trib believers.. ok since you all believe we will go through some of the tribulation, then why does scripture say he seals 144,000 Jews? if we are here, then why aren't we sealed?!! If we are here and they are here, we will all be preaching God's word, therefore we should all be sealed during the tribulation! common sense shows the rapture is more likely pre-trib, than mid-trib, or post-trib, or any other trib they have made up out there.

[tawboyle]

@popsicle161 Aren't we sealed when we become believers? Why would we need to be sealed again during the tribulation or at any other time? Maybe the 144,000 Jews are just coming to know Christ/the scales are falling from their eyes at that point in the future? So the angel of the Lord seals them to protect them, as He protected them from the angel of death on the passover before they left Egypt when they were protected by the blood of the lamb... just as we are protected by the Blood of the Lamb.

[popsicle161]

@tawboyle Nowhere in the Bible does it directly say the Church will go through the tribulation."

"For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ" (1 Thes 5:9). "Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth" (Rev 3:10).

[popsicle161]

@tawboyle Post-tribbers use a trumpet sounding in Joel 2:1 as evidence for a post-trib rapture on the Day of the Lord. I have three problems with Joel 2:1: 1. Joel clearly says that the purpose for blowing the trumpet is to "sound an alarm."

[tawboyle]

@popsicle161 I've already stated I'm actively seeking the Lord's face regarding end-times stuff and that I haven't determined if I'm post-trib, pre-trib, mid-trib or if there's even a rapture. (Does that make 3 comings of the Lord when His Word says there are 2?) I also am not saying Joel 2 has ANYTHING to do with the trumpet mentioned in I Corinthians. All I said was that I'm looking forward to that end-time outpouring of His Holy Spirit that is mentioned in Joel 2/Acts 2!! :)

[popsicle161]

@tawboyle well, i was informing you on what post-trib ppl believe, which makes no sense at all! they refer to the last trump  from the book of Joel as their confirmation to the post-trib rapture, when if you look at Corinthians Paul was referring to the last trump, tied in with the feast of Trumpets, when the jewish ppl blow the trumpets. If you do not believe in a rapture at all, then you are even worse than a post-trib believer, If Jesus said he's taking bride, why would he not?

[popsicle161]

@tawboyle continued... According to 1 Cor 15:52, the rapture is something that occurs in the twinkling of an eye. Joel 2:1 says the Day of the Lord is nigh at hand. In order for Joel's trumpet to be the same one in 1 Cor. there would have to be a time delay between the sounding of the trumpet and the rapture of the Church.

The fact that there is another trumpet being sounded in Joel 2:15 further clouds the possibility that these trumpets could have anything to do with the rapture.

[popsicle161]

@tawboyle When Paul was writing to the Corinthians, he specifically said "the" last trump. During the Feast of Trumpets, the Jews blow short trumpet blasts.They end the feast with a long blast from what is called the last trump, which is blown the longest.Judaism has traditionally connected this last trump with the resurrection of the dead. Paul also made the connection.For many Christians, the connection with rapture and feast of trumpets is so strong,many believe rapture falls on feast of trum

[popsicle161]

@tawboyle You must not know the Jewish wedding, you post-trib make it look like we'll be at the marriage supper of the lamb for 3.5 years, but during a Jewish wedding, they celebrate for 7 DAYS, symbolic to the 7 YEARS we'll be in heaven! Do not try to tell me I can't connect the two, bc Paul himself connects the last "trump" with the Jewish feast of trumpets! Post-trib ppl are so cofused! you know nothing at all.

[tawboyle]

@popsicle161 Again, I'm not post-trib. You're right on one thing. I am confused. But please don't say I know nothing at all. I've spent months praying about this topic and reading the Word. I've even been on MANY pre-trib sites trying to see if it's true. (mainly RITA) This topic reminds me of Proverbs 18:17 "The first one to plead his cause seems right, until his neighbor comes and examines him." I see it pre-trib when I'm on those sites, but then I question it when I go to the Word of God.

[tawboyle]

@popsicle161 I have actively studied the Feast of Trumpets and have watched many pre-trib videos, so I do understand the symbolism you're referring to. What I don't understand is why the Jewish nation (God's chosen people) will not be invited to the wedding supper of the Lamb as well? Only Christians will get to participate when they too are His bride? This really is confusing! :( And I know confusion is NOT of the Lord! So God I ask that you would bring clarity to us all. In Jesus' name.

[popsicle161]

@tawboyle The reason the Jewish people are not taking place in the marriage supper of the lamb is because many Jews have denied Jesus as the Messiah. The tribulation period is also called a time of "Jacob's trouble", referring to Israel. They will later on realize that indeed they truly did crucify their messiah, but the ones who accept Jesus as their Lord and savior now will be at the marriage supper of the lamb. All who receive Jesus and accept him as the savior will take part in this event.

[popsicle161]

@tawboyle Right now is a significant time for the gentiles, (us) we are also God's elect people once we receive Christ as our saviour. God made a covenant with Abraham Isac, and Jacob, and he keeps his promises. The tribulation is a time for the Jewish ppl, and left behind sinners to wake up, and finally turn to christ. That is their last oppertunity. The main events include Israel, like the abomination of Desolation which will take place. The Jews will now open their eyes to Christ

[shadapple]

"Then you shall be delivered up and killed in my name. Do not premeditate what you shall say, for the Holy Spirit shall visit you in the last hour and shall speak through you. Be therefore faithful even unto death, and I will give you a crown of Gold.".............

[shadapple]

He says in Mathew 24 that we will be delivered up and killed for his name.

[shadapple]

I find comfort in it. Even if I do go through tribulation, I have eternal life through my faith in YAH who died for my sins. The comfort is in receiving eternal life. Read Mathew 13, he tells us 3 times the chaff go first, THEN the righteous shall shine forth. He has to tell us 3 times in Mathew 13, check it out.

[1mandomaker]

Why is it we are so quick to believe man's theories of the Second Coming and not take Christ words in Mathew 24 as accurate. Why would the Heavenly Father allow Jesus to be so wrong on the doctrine of His coming back?? We can not know and understand all the fine details, but as an ex pre-tribur I now believe that Jesus, the Apostle Paul, the Apostle John, etc, were all teaching about the same SECOND COMING OF CHRIST. It is so easy to understand if you forget mans teachings and trust Scripture

[1mandomaker]

@1mandomaker Take all the passages of the Second Coming in the Bible and compare them all. They all teach the same thing. There is one Rapture, one gathering together unto Him, one Coming of Christ, (not in stages). If you believe otherwise, you have to start rejecting some parts of the New Testament as not applying to believers and some as applying to believers, Who chooses that, You do to fit MAN'S TEACHINGS, NOT TAKING THE WORD OF GOD FOR WHAT IT SIMPLY SAYS. Jesus warned of the Anti-Chri

[1mandomaker]

@1mandomaker Jesus warned of the Anti-Christ just as the Apostle Paul warned of the Anti-Christ in II Thes. God's people have always had to suffer, why would we be exempt from persecution during the trib when Scripture plainly teaches the AntiChrist will persecute us. We are to be witnesses during this time, In the very end we are more than Conquerors through Christ our Lord, If we are in the Last Days, then prepare yourself to be that witness, that is the message, Don't run frm it embrace it

[yastunt]

The 'comfort' Thessalonians is referring to may be the 'comfort' of seeing all the christians who have died over the last 2000 plus years and the 'comfort' of knowing that man's rule has come to an end - and the kingdom of God has begun.

[godshandorg]

2 Thessalonians 2: Let no man deceive you by any means for that day shall not come except there come a falling away first and that man of sin be revealed the son of perdition who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God or that is worshipped so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God shewing himself that he is God.

[MrChesterchiong]

if you study deeper, the Great Tribulation will be shorten for the sake of the ELECT (Matt.24:21-22) so there will be survivors that were left behind after the rapture, these survivors didn't take the mark of the beast. These were the ELECT which the angel gathers together after the Great Tribulation is finish (Matt.24:29-31), Some were killed, some were alive. but the dead will come back to life (Rev.20:4), (Matt.24:13) one who endures to the end will be save.

[MrChesterchiong]

Isn't it the rapture may come just after the tribulation but before the great tribulation? Daniel 12:1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which stand for the children of your people and there shall be a time of trouble, SUCH AS NEVER BEEN SINCE THE BEGINNING OF NATIONS UNTIL THEN: and at that time your people shall be delivered everyone that is found written in the book. Matthew 24:21 clearly said that GREAT TRIBULATION has NEVER BEEN SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE WORLD

[slstoll23]

I am PRE-TRIB, but the part about Matthew 24:29 that gets me is that it seems to be describing, in almost exact detail, the sixth seal in Revelation 6. Could this possibly be rapture/tribulation beginning at the sixth seal?

[FUscrewtube]

ok, ok, so I can still stand post trib, but if there is a pretrib rapture being a saved and sealed believer I will be taken? The same goes for all the pre/mid/post and pan believers..interesting. Again,. thanks for this...

[tmalone10]

@FUscrewtube you are absolutely correct, but there is only one problem. One of the five crowms Christians can receive for a reward is looking for the Blessed Hope (the rapture). When Jesus ascended up to heaven He said He would come again and take us to our mansions (rapture) in heaven. You will be taken but that will be one crown you will likely not receive. You are at this time looking for the trib. period. I would research the 5 crowns of the bema seat to make sure you are not missing out

[FUscrewtube]

@tmalone10 @tmalone10 John.14 [2] In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. [3] And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

So the context of this verse is a pretrib rapture? As for the crowns, I was standing on post to give my life freely during the GREAT TRIB. I was going for the crown of life...more studying to do! lol Thanks, :)

[tawboyle]

@tmalone10 Regarding crowns, I believe you're referring to 2 Tim. 4:8 where it talks about the "crown of righteousness" - the reward for loving and anticipating the return of Jesus. It is given to ALL who have longed for His appearing. (regardless of pre-trib, mid-trib, post-trib, etc. aren't we still all longing for His apprearing?... hence we're here talking about it?)

[popsicle161]

@FUscrewtube An imminent return is quite impossible if the tribulation has to happen first. Why would Jesus direct his people to be always ready and watching for His coming if they were meant to go through the tribulation and thus would be aware of His coming as much as seven years before He actually came?

After the letters to the seven churches of Revelation and what is seen in heaven, the focus of the book of Revelation on earth is on the Israelites again.

[RaptureOrTribulation]

Thank you for posting this for the many whom do not understand. I gave information below to help. All of your information was very good.

[tmalone10]

@RaptureOrTribulation thanks for your input.

[RaptureOrTribulation]

@tmalone10 In Matthew 24:31,"they shall gather together his elect from the four winds",pertains to the gleaning of the 4 corners of the harvest. If you understand the Old Testament and the harvest.The Jews harvested all but the 4 corners of the field to which was left for the poor to glean. In Mat 24:31,this is the last portion of the harvest.There has already been the "First Fruits" of the Harvest when Jesus was resurrected. The 2nd part of the harvest is the Rapture.That leaves the last part.

[RaptureOrTribulation]

The Harvest is always in 3 parts. The first fruits is for the Lord. Then their is the Actual harvest which Israle was required to leave the 4 corners of the field for the poor to "glean". The Old Testament refelcts the events of the New Testament. The 7 Feasts of Levitcus 23 are reflections of the devine appointments of the Messiah. The Messiah has already fulfilled the 4 spring feast which in the Harvest is sowing of the seeds. the summer is the church age. Then the 3 Harvest Feasts are to come

[RaptureOrTribulation]

The 3 Fall harvest feast will be fulfilled with the Feast of Trumpets being next one to be fulfilled. Jesus fulfilled the 4 Spring Feasts in exact order on the exact days when He was here the 1st time. Through the ages, the Feast of Trumpets has always been known as "the last trump". It has many other names such as "we know not the day or hour" and also "the hidden day". Both Jesus as well as Paul later gave us hints or idiums to the day of the rapture. That was to hide the day from satan.

[MozALoser]

How about PanRapture... however it pans out? Just be ready no matter what happens. Praise the LORD. Get ready He is coming soon.

[tmalone10]

@MozALoser unscriptural. Jesus said to look for the Blessed Hope (rapture). We will receive a crown just for looking for it. We are to earnestly look, not just shrug or shoulders and say whatever will be will be.

[croeagle100]

Paul said that he will be raptured...

[misterdude123]

@tmalone10 Terry, May I ask how you get rapture out of that passage. I have at my disposal textus receptus, strongs concordance, some good translation software, and 5 translations.  And a form of the word rapture is only in the Latin Vulgate. The greek for the great apostasy is not even the word for what we intrepret as rapture.

[tmalone10]

@misterdude123 those resources are available to everyone. This passage has been the subject of controversy, as to whether this speaks of a period of great "apostasy", or whether it refers to the "departure", or "Rapture" of the Church.The KJV phrase "falling away", in 2 Thess. 2:3, refers to the "departure", or "Rapture" of the Church. The KJV English phrase "falling away", in 2 Thess. 2:3, is the one Greek word "apostasia", and its basic meaning is to "depart from" or "go away". cont.

[tmalone10]

@misterdude123 The Greek word "Apostasia" is a compound of two Greek words: "Apo" = "to move away", "stasis" means "standing or state", or "to stand". Literally, from its basic definition, "apostasia" means "to go away from", or "depart", or "change state or standing from one state to another".  "Apostasia" literally then means "to depart, or go away from", and to "go away from what" must be determined from the context. cont.

[tmalone10]

@misterdude123 So, what is the "context" of both the First and Second Epistle to the Church at Thessalonica? The sole subject and context of both epistles is the "Rapture", or "Departure" of the Church, or "the called out ones," and advice to the Church while we await the Return of Christ for the Church. The Second letter to the Church at Thessalonica appears to have been written by Paul to clear up misunderstandings about his First Letter. (2 Thess. 2:1-5)

[misterdude123]

@tmalone10 There are some things I do agree with you on is the feeling of closeness, that the restainery may soon be removed, that is it prophetically interesting about what happened with Egypt and Libyia but I do temper the thought with how do I know for certain. I find the on off mideast peace to be interesting. I am keeping my eye on the fallout from Sept 20 when the palestinians plan to ask for UN recognization, whether the US sells out Israel or not.

[cashilling]

Jesus says in matthew that even the elect will be decieved.if we are raptured then how could we be decieved? what if the preaching of a pretrib rapture is the great deception that satan uses to create chaos for the believers?many questions but it is relivent and needs to be dicused

[tmalone10]

@cashilling those who are saved due to the witnesses of the two witnesses and 144,000 witnesses are the elect during the tribulation period. And the Bible doesn't say the elect would be saved but that "if" it were possible for the elect to be saved. The elect can not be deceived now or during the tribulation period. This scripture makes that plain. Which brings up another post-trib misconception. cont.

[tmalone10]

@cashilling The great falling away, post-tribbers believe will be Christians (pre-tribbers) who fall away when they find out they are in the trib. period and fall to the great deception. This very scripture you quoted says it isn't possible that the elect (Christians) can fall to this great deception. Not possible. So the great deception of the trib. period, although powerful, will not deceive (pre-trib rapture) Christians.

[tmalone10]

@cashilling correction. I should have said, the Bible doesn't say the elect would be deceived but that "if" it were possible for the elect to be deceived. Sorry

[cashilling]

good video except we arent subject to his wrath,but the wrath or bowls of are after the trumpet sounds.we dont have any idea of what Gods time is at that point.twinckling of an eye is quick to us but may be a lifetime to God.we will go thru tribulation.we are the elect we are dead in christ.gold is not pure till it goes thru the fire.we are gold to God but not pure yet

[hiyosilver100]

Seems to me to be seperate and distinct "Trumpets". The 'Last Trump' of the 100 trumps sounded at the Feast of Trumpets is significant in the season festival. I believe is the Trump of the Rapture.

The Trump announcing the return of Jesus is just for that. Significant, also, of course, but seperate.

[misterdude123]

I do realize one of the main difficulties with eschology is that it states believers are not appointed unto wrath but that we have the blessed hope.  This is what Rosenthal tried to address with his prewrath rapture theory. Unfortunately that also has assumptions such as the seventh trumpet being the last trumpet. The real question is what is Soon. The NT church thought Christ would return in their day but it has been almost 2000 years.

[misterdude123]

Terry

Your graph clear shows why people disagree with a pretrib rapture because it depicts a third ressurection when the Bible clear states that the first resessurection occurs at Christ return at the battle of Armeggadon. The one thing Matthew 24 points out is when the church is separated from the unbelievers it is game over for the unbelievers no further second chance.

[andymcq2509]

comfort one another with these words can refer to the fact the tribulation is limited,and will end,so to comfort others with these words can give hope-just a thought!

[valu777]

the last trump could be the feast of trumpets 

[valu777]

MAT 24:31 IS HEAVEN ,, NOT THE WORLD

[valu777]

1) the vaulted expanse of the sky with all things visible in it

a) the universe, the world

b) the aerial heavens or sky, the region where the clouds and the tempests gather, and where thunder and lightning are produced

c) the sidereal or starry heavens

2) the region above the sidereal heavens, the seat of order of things eternal and consummately perfect where God dwells and other heavenly beings

[lookin4Jesus]

Wait! What Bridegroom would toss his BELOVED into a bed of tribulation? None! The tribulation is for an unbelieving world right? Aren't we His beloved? I have to believe that Jesus is able to keep us from that time of trial that is coming on a Christ REJECTING world when WE BELIEVE and receive God's great GIFT! Yep! I have read Rev: 3:10....Jesus is able to KEEP FROM the WRATH of God thats coming! No where is the 7th trump the voice of God....that calls us come UP! God bless You! Maranatha!

[blinko656]

The common sense order is what Hagee teaches also. Another great presentation.

[tmalone10]

@blinko656 thank you

[blinko656]

The common sense order is what Hagee teaches also.

[MPPFLIPP]

1 more thing about Matt24:40&41The word "left" does not mean these folks were left behind. If U study a Greek Dictionary of the word "left" it also means "put away" as in "put into outer darkness". The translators used the word "left" because of their bias in not understanding the Rapture or the 2nd coming very well they chose the wrong words to use. Matt24 is a description of the 2nd coming & not the Rapture. The good will be taken by the angels & the lost will be put away into outer darkness

[tmalone10]

@glorytoyahweh1 I don't agree but it's not a major issue for me.

[VEMUSIC]

Great job Terry. Also Read Rev 3: 8-10, Rev 16:15, Luke 21:36 if you read Luke 21 you will see that Jesus is also giving an account of Matt 24. Verse 36 of Luke 21 he says "Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape ALL THESE THINGS that shall come to pass, and to STAND BEFORE THE SON OF MAN. Great work once again my brother. Love your videos.

[tmalone10]

@VEMUSIC You're welcome and thanks for your input.

[BREGGREN]

@tmalone10 --- Terry, I have Watched & Read You From Quite Awhile Ago & Off & On Up to Now & Lately You've Really Been Cookin' in The Spirit; Or It's Probably Just Me? Terry, Just By The Comments, You Have Really  Made Us All Alive in The Spirit or The Spirit Alive In Us. I Know You Would Never Take Credit For What God Can Do, But Thanks for Your Persistence & God Bless You & Us! Great Job, 'tmalone!' We're With Brother!

[tmalone10]

@BREGGREN thank you for continuing with the Calvary Prophecy Report Ministries. That means so much.

[lillambs]

1 Thessalonians 1:10 (Whole Chapter) And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.Romans 5:9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.John 16:33 These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world..we have trib but saved from wrath!

[carpentersdaughter2]

@glorytoyahweh1 Can you share with me where in the gospels that the disciples asked Jesus what happened to those taken? Thank you.

[eternalrhythmflow]

You really expressed some wise points here, Terry. I made notes in my Bible! Very logical.

You have seen my "Rapture Milk & the Last Trump" video, right? I explain a little more how the last trump of Paul cannot be the 7th trump of John. Check it out if you have not yet. You'll like the info I'm sure. Peace!

[tmalone10]

@eternalrhythmflow I remember it, but only started to watch it until the rapture milk came out.  I thought you weren't serious (due to the milk), but I will go back now and finish watching it. Thanks, Scott

[eternalrhythmflow]

@tmalone10 Ha! No, I am serious about the pre-trib rapture. I like to have a little fun and keep it light sometimes. Did you get through both of them?

[pedrolevy3]

The gathering up is PRE-TRIB folks... if you don't believe that, you're just fooling yourselves.