Exclusive Video: Gov. Mitch Daniels on Obamacare's Devastating Consequences

[MrJalan86]

ASexyChef - Cost savings through preventive care is a Liberal myth. If 100 people right now don't get preventive care, surely a few will experience a costly health event. If you pay for the preventive care for all 100 people, you may avoid those few events, BUT YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR THE PREVENTIVE CARE OF THE OTHER 90+ PEOPLE! Sure, preventive care is a good thing. As long as you're not masquerading it as a cost cutting measure.

[ASexyChef]

But to act like the system that is now in place is anything more than a small measure, and no were close to being government run is perverse. People like this man and so many others flat out lye about what it is that actually happened. I am not a huge fan of what it is but its a farce too have a video like this make it out to be something it clearly isn't. Thats what people need to understand is these people are just lying to everyone. This man is clearly in the pockets of interests groups

[ASexyChef]

People like this man had no issues with the system they call ObamaCare up until it was Obama doing it. All ObamaCare or whatever you wish to do it, was force companies in the future not to deny those with coverage from having it when they are found to have an expensive sickness, injury, etc. It force companies to allow kids going to college to be able to stay on their parents, its far from socialized, or government controlled, you can debate what it has or hasn't done, or if its good or not

[ASexyChef]

We already have free healthcare is just extremely expensive, it would be far smarter to give everyone healthcare and do preventive measures, instead of having these same people going to emergency rooms. We spend more on healthcare than any other country yet provide far less than what those other countries do pay. People like this man seem far more inbed with health insurance companies than the actual consumers and providers, but with the third party who obtain billions for providing nothing.

[robertmike57]

Mitch Daniels & Republican legislators were bribed by charter schools to expand charter schools in Indiana.

[macrent2]

Mitch Daniels is the fucking elite one! I am a college student in Indiana and if I got caught with the same amount of pot that he did, I would be fucked in the ass with no lube!

[thebigsmoke1]

mitch is a communist. He made it legal for warrantless searches in indiana

[myfreethinkingnow]

Daniels and his GOP Friends can get their noses out of Women's Vagina's. It's our privacy! As far as Healthcare, when did people having access to care hurt society?

[davem12758]

daniels lies

[jc062404]

I want to hear what mitch has to say about tyell morton.

[MrBoy219]

Mitch Daniels will cost you alot more... He done away with the homestead credit on your property taxes.. Mitch doesn't like Democrats and i dont like Republicans..

[5150jafo]

Healthcare is as basic as air. If you don't get it, you will die or live a miserable existence.

If you would deny it to another human for any reason then you like suffering and pain.

[LogicalFlawDetector]

@5150jafo

It's not a right if it is a burden on someone else.

[leftbehind81]

3) The president didnt jam it through. People have been trying to help make health care better for the last 60 years. President Obama is just the first president that has been succesfull in getting a plan through that trys to make the system better.

[leftbehind81]

2) Going to the doctor for a treatment is not fundamentally a "fun" thing to do. People dont go to the doctor because a rerun of the price is right is on. People go because they are worried about their health. There are things that can be done to help curb unnessisarry prescriptions/doctor visits, but doing this sort of reform could be done without repealing the plan.

[leftbehind81]

He lays out the problems with the existing health care system (the health insurance model) but he does not actually present a plan to improve it. Furthmore, There are several flaws with some of his assumptions:

1) The plan does not make health care appear to be "free". There are some added incentives (such as tax credits) to make people want to get health insurance but this health insurance will not be free.

[EchoMike03]

What a novel idea. Incentivize people to save their own money and take care of themselves!!!!

I still wanna hear this guy say in plain language, if a bill to repeal this awful law is put in front of him, does he have the stones to sign it, and rip out this monstrosity by roots and stomp on it's neck till it's dead, and then replace it with free market solutions, introduces more choice, and rewards personal responsibility.

[SROBERT123]

I agree with this Governor in one point. The law is a bad one in its current form. Obama should have had the balls to take health care out of the hands of the health insurance industry and out of wall street and should have introduce a total single payer system, "medicare for all law." There is still time to do it. The Governor should also read "On Bullshit" by Princeton Proffesor Frankfurt. Politicians are at high risk for bullshitting (which basically no having interest with the truth)

[sladyard963]

Hi my name is mitch.... And I like it in the butt! All Republicans should be sent to mexico cause they don't give a shit about the working class in the u.s. They only look out for them and that's it.... That's what is wrong with the us!!!!

[HDaviator]

Obamacare? That is the name of the Health care reform? Do you conservative idiots even realize that conservative media decided to name it "Obamacare" to make it sound as if it is some huge form of socialist system? This is purely racist propaganda. But its not a surprise coming from a racist organization such as the Heritage foundation and the republican party.

[Angellicationify]

Obamacare was signed on March 2010 with 59% of the people disapproving according to a CNN poll. The CBO scored Obamacare on six years of coverage for 10 years of taxes, which is how the CBO showed the bill to be deficit neutral . It’s unconstitutional mandating all citizens to purchase health care. Even Pelosi said, “We have to pass the bill, so you can find out what is in it.” watch?v=KoE1R-xH5To It’s also meant to take over industry watch?v=p-bY92mcOdk

Allen West 2012

[sonofatiger]

What ever pot head

[sonofatiger]

It doesn't matter if a politician is Democrat or Republican they all make you promises and when they get in power not that happen so I think all presidents is the one term because it's only way we keep them in check they say anything to get in power and do not care about the average American at all but guess what the average American is a majority an American people are sick of it at least the ones with brains between their ears. They are

[abba47]

amusing

[odinswald]

Wonderful thoughts on healthcare by a reasonable individual.

[abba47]

You are an ignorant racist.

[dman3472]

@abba47 Really please i have more black friends then white ones. They traced Obamas mom and dad family tree back to kenya the year of his birth. Your probably a Union working democrat that only watches cnn and has literally no political information what so ever. So please you ignorant idiot please shut up and log out.

[TheRussloner]

@dman3472 Yeah you are totally right hes a Muslim Socialist terrorist from Kenya. you are a total nut. wake up and smell reality.

[abba47]

@dman3472 You are an ignorant racist.

[equsnarnd]

Unemployment rates in a few states 28 CONNECTICUT 9.0 29 ALABAMA 9.1 29 NEW JERSEY 9.1 31 ILLINOIS 9.3 31 WASHINGTON 9.3 33 ARIZONA 9.4 33 TENNESSEE 9.4 35 IDAHO 9.5 35 INDIANA 9.5 35 MISSOURI 9.5 38 OHIO 9.6 38 WEST VIRGINIA 9.6

[MatchesMalone242]

if he wants to also go to the mattresses to reform the tax structure, especially if it's a flat or fair tax, then I'm on for this guy rockin' 2012

[indyman77]

This Callous butt hole is planning to cut unemployment for our state! We have over 10% unemployment and he is trying to cut it? For 1.9 billion dollars? Hello ONE billion dollars Republicans are trying to look good on the BACKS of their citizens, he had not problem with giving 600 billions to the colts and hundreds of billions to the pacers! But the unemployed he says 1 billion is too much, go homeless fools! He waited until his Republican friends got elected yesterday to tell us this.

[donttakethegirl15]

Daniels 2012!

[mikhailalterman]

Mitch Daniels looks presidential from here. If that doesn't work out then I hope he challenges Lugar in the primaries.

[leddhed]

Vote them all out.

[lar1517]

@scipio2021 I can appreciate your perspective. The care that people seek in emergency situations is provided without regard to financial status. Generally, hospitals are able to absorb those cost and they are funded through state and federal programs. Returning to the question, who is ultimately responsible for care of ones self? Are you saying I should be legally bound to pay for someone's well-being? Or are you making a moral argument? Please explain the assertion. Thanks.

[TheRussloner]

@lar1517

Clearly you have never been to an Indiana emergency room with an urgent life threatening injury or other medical problem as I have. I have insurance but if you think anyone was about to save my life before they double triple checked that someone was paying for over an hour before letting me near a doctor or nurse or anything that could cost money you are dead wrong. More people die in emergency care facility waiting rooms in America than in any other country in the world.

[TheRussloner]

Respond to this video... And would you rather buy three unnecessary immeasurably expensive wars at a time? Or health care for your American brothers and sisters? I know what i would choose. Btw your respectful careful way of debating is much appreciated. I'm sure we don't see eye to eye but I would guess that you are an intelligent human.

[FairBalancedUnafraid]

Note to Governor Daniels--Section1332 waivers. We can do better.

[lar1517]

@Scipio2021 I don't mean to jump into a discussion, but what are your basic assumptions for "you must be for them dying"? I am not for people starving, but if a man does not work, how do we justify his meal? The meal has to come from someone else, someone else that works to produce/create/buy the meal. I'm I responsible for feeding you while to sit around and discuss health care? What are your basic consitutional assuptions that I am responsible for someone's health care or meal?

[Scipio2021]

@lar1517 If you're not for your taxes going to other people's emergency care that can't afford it, then you're for them dying. Unless we invent cryofreeze, it's a real black and white issue here.

And your taxes are right now going to other people's food stamps. If you're for kicking lazy people off the food stamp program, then I'm with you, but many of these as well as the non lazy have kids. What's to do with them? I do hear you on this issue though.

[TheRussloner]

@Scipio2021 That is because in Indiana and many other republican states assistance is non incentive based. It benefits people on a personal financial level to not seek employment if they are unemployed and receiving assistance. It doesn't have to work like that though!!

[tombudd1]

Gov. Mitch Daniels of Indiana speaks out on Obamacare

[Scipio2021]

The Heritage foundation thinks that you or your children should be left to die in the hospital parking lot if you can't afford life saving treatment because spending others taxes to save the life of another citizen is SOCIALISM.

The Heritage foundation thinks the government should be powerless and do nothing about the rising costs of health care.

The Heritage Foundation thinks that income redistribution is ok as long as it's going from the poor and middle class to the rich.

[thereinliestherib]

@Scipio2021 Blah blah talking points and blah. Yeah, explain to me how forcing the healthy and responsible to pay more and receive less, through force of unconstitutional mandates, is going to fix the "system" in a population with a 70% obesity/overweight rate. Nice try. Maybe when this country can walk instead of waddle you'll have a point. 'Til then, adios muchachos!

[Scipio2021]

@thereinliestherib Let's take what you believe one step further:

Why should I have to pay taxes for schools when I made the choice not to have children? Why should I have to pay for taxes for paved roads if I ride my bike to work? Why should those who have a bike be forced to have their taxes go to bike trails? Why should women pay the same in taxes for the police when men commit most of the crimes?

This is more of how the heritage foundation thinks.

[thereinliestherib]

@Scipio2021 Nope, neat fallacies, but they're all bunk. Socialism is a system which forcibly reallocates funds based on no representative schema; all the goods you've just mentioned are politically-consensual and communitarian-based systems that in no way compare to socialized medicine. This is how american medicine works: take from the responsible and give it to corporations, their lobbies/pol's, and fatties who--geegolly!--no one told a cheeseburger diet would result in heart disease.

[Scipio2021]

@thereinliestherib So we already have some socialism with schools, paved roads, bike lanes, and police. Due to the reasons I stated, you can't dispute my examples that we're being taxed out of proportion to the services one uses, thus the same example could be applied to health care.

If you're against your taxes going to other people's health care, then you must be for them dying if they can't afford treatment. If not then how should this problem be solved?

[thereinliestherib]

@Scipio2021 So what? Disproportional taxation is an effect of any taxation structure; you're attempting to use an effect as a cause, a justification, which is stupid. Which of course if finished off with the assumption that if I don't support The Agenda I am "for people dying." Huh. And a kitten dies every times I exercise my right to free speech, right? That excluded middle reeks of Bush and Palin wrapped into one...

[Scipio2021]

@thereinliestherib

Since you despise how American medicine works based upon your example, you must despise both political parties very muchm due to the problem of lobbying for a small few, which I agree is a huge problem. Something we both agree on, but I know the Heritage Foundation does not agree, they love lobbying for the top 1% while the other 99% if ignored. So I would have to conclude you despise the HF, the GOP and Democrats. If I'm wrong tell me who you don't despise out of those 3.

[thereinliestherib]

@Scipio2021 "So I would have to conclude you despise the HF, the GOP and Democrats."

As a healthy, tax-paying, non-leach, hard-working American: here-here!

[Scipio2021]

@thereinliestherib And I never got an answer to my last question: Why not? Has your brain not thought this through, or are you going to spin another excuse because your answer is that horrible that you can't admit to it? Here's the question again:

If you're against your taxes going to other people's health care, then you must be for them dying if they can't afford treatment. If not then how should this problem be solved?

[thereinliestherib]

@Scipio2021 See lar1517's comment for your response. Or open your eyes to the fact that your own reform bill stands to entrench corporate profits in working class households more than any other measure in history. Sorry, but the condition of being alive is not a liability for which I owe someone else health insurance. Not anymore than I owe them monster trucks, cheeseburgers, methamphetamines, abortions, methadone, or second thoughts.

[Scipio2021]

@thereinliestherib hey how many times have we heard hyper partisan right wingers say "this is how liberals think"? You have to admit it's fair that someone returns the favor?

[FreewayTitan]

@Scipio2021 Exactly right.

[mcap52]

Wait until companies start sending out their yearly health insurance packets. People will finally see with their own eyes,even the liberals who seem to think they are untouchable in all this,how much their premiums will rise because of their precious "free" health care.

[Joemantler]

You were dissapointed? Disappointment implies expectation. Did you really think this bill would fix anything?

Don't repeal and replace... repeal, repeal, and repeal some more!

[Aeronomer]

So sick of progressive fucktards!!!!

[kkeewiinn2]

I' wasn't a big fan of him, but I like him a lot more because of this.

[Infantry9]

Great video. He should have also added that the malpractice industry also built heavy malpractice insurance costs which build up heavy medical bills. Other than that, great video and I wish more political leaders were more like Daniels.

[sdfkjllshadflhadfshl]

At least we can always go to Mexico for affordable health care.

[ErikNikolai]

He's like the second coming of Calvin Coolidge. Very similar in politics, personality and demeanor.

[justtex1975]

@ErikNikolai

Indeed, & all things considered Coolidge was a great president. Although, his appointment of Harlan Stone to the SCOTUS, & his signing of the 1925 Certiorari Act were both wrong as rain during a flood, most everything else Coolidge did helped the country immensely.

I like Mitch Daniels a lot. IF he turns out to be a strong cultural conservative, I'll be happy to support him.

But I can't even consider him as a serious potential leader, until he comes clean about cultural issues.