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  • Wow i'm loving these videos more and more! Your questions are my questions exactly! (i'm also glad that i have found someone that gets as irritated as i do about the position muslims have been put in in the USA. In answer to your question about the double standards, I think it is this way because the agenda of the american govm't is to undermine muslims in order to justify their ridiculous actions in the middle east, whereas the muslim nations (iran exculded) do not have such agendas.

  • Well! we sometimes forget what Allah (S.W.T) says regarding non-Muslims.

  • thanx sister for bringin this up. those ppl with hate comments like we saw are just makin us stronger. i would agree if he specify the bad muslims, but he generalized all of us, and that made him a loser. muslims are part of america. god bless america, and god bless muslims. inshallah.

  • Sorry sister, but he is not the only one who feels that way about muslims. This is me going on the record.

  • Salaam sis... great vid masha'Allah...regarding negative stereotypes...

    "Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one!"

    -- Charles Mackay

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  • I wish that Guiliani was President now. Obama isn't bad, though.

  • world wide thermo nuclear war, thats what i say.  All life wiped out, problems are all solved :)

  • thank you sis

  • thank you U are saying good think for people that thay do not know about it thank you i have one quistine please call me at 1(716)400-7251 ali jamal

  • I love your videos! But I disagree a bit with one thing you're saying. You say there is a double standard b/c no one accuses these closed-minded american extremists of representing the whole. I think that's not true. In other nations with an Islamic majority, they here the rantings of these (forgive me) STUPID americans, and think they DO represent us all. Then they hate/fear/steriotype Amerians too. We have idiots making a bad impression for the rest of us too.

  • Sister mashallah very good ,this is my first time i listen to you and please continue .Allah bless you and give you more engeryg to speakout turth .

  • Mashallah great video sis, I never knew of that guys racist remarks, and like u said if that word wasnt Muslim and was black or even worse if he said jews then all hell would have broken loose...

    there still talking about what iranian president said about wiping Israeil off the map and he didnt even say that but the twisted and translated it wrong yet with this like u said they just brushed it under the table...

  • May Allah save you and protect you as a free voice of Islam.

  • well, he is gone with the wind now sister, btw. i am still celebrating George Allen & Rick Santorum's loss in 2006, about the hateful comments for this article, it was well known that most zionist are rudy's supporters and do not expect any fair or nice comments from a zionist.

  • First of all, having sex with kids is haram, not accepted, and beating women is also haram. You should see LMartella's video on wife beating to understand the comment. Also, just so you remember Christian priests are so commonly charged with molesting boys, and crazy christian men like Robert Pickter who raped and killed more than 47 ppl in BC. But we don't generalize all Christians over these few Christians. I respect all religions, I don't think its fair you judge all of us like that.

  • sorry, Robert Pickton in BC, Paul Bernardo in Toronto, & the gang of 6 teenagers who just were released of raping that 10 yr.old girl in England on June 13, 2008. Come on ppl, there are thousands of Christians who rape and kill and abuse women here in North America as well, dont be so blind. In Canada 1 in 4 women get sexually assaulted and 1 in 5 are domestically abused. So such a country of Christians are wrong too then right. So don't judge us, get to know us and you'll see were cool:)

  • good point sis! lovely! :)

  • i like peaceful dialogue

  • God bless you sister!

  • Lets face it, we dont have a large enough voting power and we dont contribute enough to political parties...they dont get money from us...we dont control the media...these are things Muslim youth of today might want to focus on as we are determining our career.

  • Christians, Jews and Muslims fighting on this post it wall over the remarks of some neo nazi idiot, Why can't we just all realize that the basis of our religions is the one true God and that the basis of our religion is love and to quote a Christian scripture In the words of Isa or Jesus pbuh Faith Hope and love. We are all brothers and sisters, its time we live like it.

  • u right, but Christians believe in the trinity which is not only meaning one God, but I get your point masha'Allah, nice comment.

  • investigateislam1: produce evidence from the QURAAN.

  • You know what I find funny? These morons keep spewing out rubbish that Islam's a violent religion, a religion that allegedly suppresses women's rights, a religion that preaches hate, blah, blah, blah.

    But surprise, surprise... today, it's Islam that's the FASTEST growing religion on this entire planet!

    To quote from the Quran - 003.054:'And (the unbelievers) plotted and planned, and Allah too planned, and the best of planners is Allah.'

  • Err no. In Islam you cant get away with anything and be praised for it. Thats absolutely ludicrous. Theives can get their hand cut off, and you're thinking they'll be praised for it? Grow up.

  • StoogeWatcher : U have to studies other religion first before u can make any statement .

  • Hahahahaha. Islam will live on, suckers. Live with it.

  • I love you parallel! I was thinking the same thing! Keep up the great work!

  • Lol... I hate how I always seem to write "you" when I should write "your"... lol

  • Good job! Stand up for the Arabs! They're not our enemy! Watch GROUND TRUTH here on youtube, you'll understand then.

  • Masha'allah! Very good point on the double standard, but I could never articulate it as well as you did.

  • investigate islam...dare to produce evidences from the quran...well i've got one from the BIBLE...GENESIS 19:32- come, let us make our father(LOT) drink wine, and we lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father...isnt that prohibited...????

  • May god give us the tolerance, patience and education.

  • thats you kafirs who do that.

  • Come back to Canada Sis, you'll feel a lot safer and happier ;)

  • Guiliani is a frightening man. I heard only a portion of a speech of his broadcast on CNN, and I literally shudder at the possibility that this man could run the country with the most Nuclear weapons in the world. I have no doubt in my mind that Guiliani shares in this man's disgusting opinion, with the crucial difference is that his tongue is trained for restraint. Really good video sis. But yes, very disturbing.

  • lol Again, dont worry Sis, they think Islam is a Geographic area, and it is in the middle east.

    you know they can call Islam Evil and stuff, but look at their Foul languages of Cursing and hate.. aint that Evil?

  • Im so proud of ur strength! & ur insistance on non haterd cuz when i read the comments they made my blood boil! Im gona try & be better like u but i live in Kuwait and its Muslim nation so we dont have to deal with this! InshAllah Allah rewards u with the highest levels of paradise where if i am worthy i will join u & we will laugh about how stupid the world used to be! im giving u a huge virtual hug! stay strong sis and know that we are with u in spirit!

  • nice video as usual :)well they can say what they want but islam is still here and shall remain but it's scary how much they sound like the nazis.

  • Couldn't agree more with you shinywizard! I thought I might sound extreme if I said the big N-word, but they really do have a striking resemblance going on!

  • Interesting opinion. But I don't really see how, care to explain?

  • My last comment was aimed at StoogeWatcher

  • Muslims are the ones who hate Jews, deny the Holocaust, want to get rid of Christianity, implement Sharia, and hate freedom of speech. Muslims were the ones who killed over cartoons and quotes, and wanted to behead a teacher over what her class named a teddy bear.

  • what are you, a retard? everybody knows the nazis were christians!

  • The Nazis threw Christians, especially Catholics and Jehovah's Witnesses, into the concentration camps.

  • So? The Nazis killed anyone that disagreed with them.

  • Read history you stooge... Your lack of insight screams of your ignorance of Christianity, and history itself... MANY MANY attrocities commited in the world was at the hands of those who follow Christ.

  • Teach not preach, your message will get thru

  • they were athiests you tard

  • Then violence has nothing to do with religion you tard... Humans are violent with or without religion..

    So critisizing Muslims is redundant...

  • ye i never disagreed with that whats your frikin problem

  • Wrong. " the Nazis often used the church to justify their stance and included many Christian symbols in the Third Reich [42]."

    If you are not fully convinced, "freethinkers clashed frequently with Nazis in the late 1920s and early 1930s. On taking power, Hitler banned freethought organizations (such as the German Freethinkers League) and launched an "anti-godless" movement. In a 1933 speech he declared: "We have... undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement..."

  • Don't forget the crusades. Palestinian Christians were killed as well... by the European Christians becasue they were "foreign"

  • SalaamAlaikum, Thanks for the eye opening video Sister, JAZAKALLAH KHAIR.

  • P.S. Love your videos, so very helpful in my quest to understand different faiths. Keep it up and don't be discouraged by some people who will never listen to any reason anyway!

  • Hi Linda, and every one else.

    I just wanted to comment on something. I read somewhere that if a Muslim performs a sin such as murder/suicide/terrorism and other dreadful sins, then that same person denounces Islam and therefore can not rightfully be called a Muslim/Islamic terrorist.

    Is this not correct? And if it is correct, why do people persist in calling them that?

  • "The killing of one (innocent) person is like killing all of humanity" -(5:32)

    I hope that answers your questions.

  • Excuse me for stopping by. Fascinating videos. I seem to agree with your comments.

    Out of curiosity, and possibly slightly off topic, have you been able to catch any news broadcasts from the english al jazeera news channel? if so do you feel it is balanced? I like to watch as it is different.

  • We are witnessing the end of 1400 years of oppression cruelty and barbarism on the part of Muslims and Islam.

    Ow what a great day it will be when Islam is removed from the pages of history as communism and Nazism before it.

  • To think it might actually happen in my life time.

    This "war on terror" is already a war against Islam but no one wants to say the truth.

  • lol Islam was here before u and will be here long after u leave this world

  • Islam will always be there and it is destined to supercede all other isms. Islam defeated the two super powers of the past(Romans and Persians) and ended oppression and that is what Islam is. It offers true freedom and not slavery to the creation. So keep trying but you will lose.

  • AMAZING!!! SubhanAllah its so true, they just cleaned that right up. I didn't even hear a word about it.

  • I would stay firm on my belief as GOD is always on the side of the truth. Look at the statistics: Every year, 25000+ people converting to Islam after Islam, Quran, and the prophet is insulted in the media.

    Juliani and his team are Islamophobe nuts, who are trying to sell hate to get few extra votes on the expense of Islam. But I strongly believe that American people will not fall into his bigoted traps and will stick to the great values this country stands for.

  • So mad... I don't even know what to write.

  • I agree with you sister, totally, this is getting out of hand hmm... But surely Victory to the believers. The more they chase after islam, the more it is rising... So insha Allah sister, keep strong, and insha Allah remember the Muslim Ummah in your duas

  • Hang in there sister,ure definately not alone and i fully understand and share ure anger,Allah is watching and listening always,May he bless u and all Muslim brothers and sisters...JazakAllahKhair

  • tobi8543: Mature? what is up with you... is everything ok?

  • I think those hateful people ARE seen as representative of American thought, at least outside the U.S.A.

    You think it's tough being muslim? Try being an atheist. We're less trusted than you guys-and we don't have atheist suicide bombers to blame for this.

  • I think it's human nature to believe that ones own plight is worse than anyone elses.

    I'm on the outside looking in, much as you are with the Muslim community.

    I don't want to kill you, and hopefully you're not into murdering people, too.

    That's a start.

    Peace.

  • I actually have statistics to back me up, though. All the surveys I've seen about this show that people trust atheists less.

    I do agree that religious bigotry is not cool, but we can't overuse it. After all, christians also claim they're persecuted in the USA.

    The difference (beside the lack of trust thing) is that you hijab, I have no external signs of my atheism, so you're more likely to be harassed.

  • Oh I've seen the statistics too. Something like 90% of born against christians think athiesm is negative... bad, etc. And there are more, I know.

    I guess I've just hadly seen anyone say "KILL AND DEPORT THE ATHIESTS! THEY'RE THE ENEMY!"

    But again, as I said, this is the perspective of a person on the outside. It's hard for me to know what your experiences have been.

    The real crazies come out online, of course. Especially when we make our views known for people to scrutinize (sp)

    Peace.

  • "Something like 90% of born against christians think athiesm is negative... bad, etc. And there are more, I know."

    Not just that. about 51% of ALL people in your country distrust or dislike us.

    "It's hard for me to know what your experiences have been."

    Good point. I also can't feel what muslims experience, and it's probably bad to judge as I did. I just wish people would stop the hate. I mean, I hate RELIGION but I don't hate the RELIGIOUS. Why can't people be like that?

  • Walaikum assalaam habibi, I would like to send tremendous love and caring to you in this msg. I am a Muslim convert too and am blessed to have recieved very little open discrimination. When I watch this video it makes me want to cry because I know I am the minority in term of not recieving discrimination. I wish I could hug you and help you feel better. Inshallah there will be peace one day, and murderous thoughts and intentions will not be held by anyone.

  • interesting to note the people who are making comments, trying to scare Muslims and stir hatered are few but have multiple acounts. They do this in order to give the impression that there are many of them.

  • How do you know that they are all a few people with multiple accounts?

  • I simply look in their message boxes and read about their campaigns. Also when you click the name above the nasty comments they like joined youtube 5 minuites ago.

  • I dunno.

    Tobi8543 *points down* just posted that he wants to kill me, ya?

    And he's been on youtube for abotu a year.

    I don't doubt that there are, indeed, some people making multiple accounts to breed anger and fear, but I think the issue is a lot more complex, and involves a lot more individuals than we might want to believe.

  • Botton line here is EVERYONE is affraid of one thing or another. When people are affraid they lash out at whatever seems to be the cause at that moment. This is what happens when people react to triggers in media. I am not referring to these people, they are also the victims. i.e. Tobi8543

  • What I'm referring to are the quiet ones who stir up rumour, hate and make people react. These people are few but very effective in making people fear Muslims and Muslims fear others as they heard the sheep into pens. Fear is the enemy that triggers people into making mistakes. Its called Divide and Conquer

  • Tobi8543 is a lesser devil and an immature little boy. Why I tell you Ive heard worst things come from my little sister one time

  • Ahsalamu Alaykom Sister!

    Wonderful Video and Beautiful Points! MASHA'ALLAH, YOU GO GIRL

  • It's very sad.

    And I've noticed GOP candidates (except for the honorable Ron Paul) have stopped just saying "terrorists" and gone to "Islamo-terrorists" to make sure to get the relgion in there & now have even gone to "Islamo-terror-extremist" or "Islamo-extreme-terrorits" or "Extreme-Islamo-terrorist"

    I suspect next we'll have "Vile-Islamo-terror-extremists­" or some such thing.

    Look especially for Huckabee to try to take us into a religious war.

    God help us all.

  • The hate speech from Giuliani Veterans I believe is infact great news. Why? Because these people are now exposing themselves and showing their true colours to the world. They have always been their operating behind closed doors.

  • Obama is Muslim, so do these hate-mongers think he should leave the country? Thank you so much presenting this video young lady. I knew nothing about this.

    I assure you, the majority of people in America stand in the Light and are NOT the hate-mongers his mean-spirited statements reflect.

  • Obama is Muslim? What planet x are you living on dude? Obama is a Christian (or so he makes out)nothing wrong with being a REAL Christian of course.

  • Obama is not a Muslim.

  • I agree. Obama has said many times that he's not a Muslim. A muslim person would never ever say that no matter what the circumstances are.

  • Obamas dad was a Muslim, I think. But not practicing.

    His fathers middle name was Hussein because of that. And so is Barak Obama's.

    But he's def. Christian.

    His household did have a Qu'ran in it while he was growing up, though. As well as the religious texts of many other faiths. Seems well rounded, insha'Allah.

    And I still like him as a candidate - a lot more than the other Democratic choices.

  • Hey, thanks for sharing ur thoughts!!! I agree with you.

    Try to Ignore these people. We can only pray for them that they get guided towards the right path.

  • We need to show the original islam to these hatres as the 16 year old Muhamad bin Qasim did and made thousands of ppl accept islam in asia. m sorry to say but watever is happening to us is a result of our own deeds. (honest opinion)

  • one portion of the muslims is busy in removing the missconceptions about this pure deen and other is busy in doing stuff that gives birth to missconcenptions and hatred but there is no group thats doing something to show the true islam, the islam that made the jahils of arab treat their wives and daughters like a human beings, that made em even love the animals, that forbade em even to cut trees without purpose, the islam that tells us to have smile and affection on our faces.

  • we still gota admit that many of the normal muslims living in europe and north america have great sympathese for usama and umar specially in UK. We muslims r not even close to wat Allah wanted us to be, we never should the BEUTIFUL side of our religion to non muslims who hate us. in responce we do stuff that increase their hatred.

  • Assalam O Alaikum

    Mr. Deady has the full right to express his opinion as we live in the time of "free speach" but leme remind him that free speach is diffrent than "hate speach". Mr. deady's hate speach and ppl's comments at fox news were very disturbing but i would still say that its only fire that causes smoke and we need to extinguish the fire.(to be continued)

  • You are an asset around here, keep making these "off topic" videos. We need them.

  • Insha'Allah. I'm thinking of making it a regular thing. Insha'Allah.

    Assalamu alaikum!

  • thank u sister..its such amazing when u feel a huge media tool is playing the lies every day about muslims and islam in America and Eroup then muslim like u in America speak on behalf of Islam & muslims to clear out and tell the reality of Islam...this we dont hear it in Opera Show or other american shows..thank u again, and any thing u want to know about IRAQ and whats really happen there..just ask

  • 1-prove there is terrorists in Iraq we have to stay to fight them.2-they do it in Shias places to blame the Sunnis and let the brothers busy by taking the revenge and fight each other. so they lower the pressure upon there army.

  • salam sister...am from IRAQ..sister believe me when I say most of the news which said one suicide blow himself up and killed tens of people..its a BIG LIE..its happen in our country and we knew it very will..many times people discover US army plant the TNT under civilian car and when he move to public area they blow him up..

  • "If its fair for someone to point the finger at the Muslim community..."

    Its really a simple question with an easy answer. Its not fair. Its essentially the same type of person isnt it? One who takes hatred to such extremes as to wish for genocide. I mean thats the type of person that makes a terrorist right? Just as you hate to be associated with terrorism for being muslim the average american hates to be associated with being pro-genocide

  • That was exactly my point

    now if only i was able to keep it so short and sweet, my videos wouldn't always be so long. Haha.

  • Disturbing, but I am afraid it is only going to get worse. Allah is on our side so we must put our faith in him.

  • im not disturbed, actually..

    I know that only extremist right-wing conservatives and christians think this nonse..most Americans and Westerners are tolerant

  • One comment I received on my page a few days ago to add to your "collection" :

    scrualla | December 30, 2007 (Unblock User)

    There is still time for moslems to LEAVE EUROPE and the West! WHY the hell do u want to be here where NOONE WANTS u and your criminal brood..

    We are simply tired of feeding and housing a bunch of arrogant demanding ingrates who contribute nothing but hatred and crime.

  • Assalamu'alaykoum dear sister, sometimes you just have to laugh at the incompetence of these Islamophobic clowns. The sad truth is that I start to not find this funny anymore and it actually brings tears to my eyes, just like you, subhan'Allah. Chin up sis, you did a great job!Masha'Allah!

  • GREAT VIDEO!

  • Alhumdulillah, this has generated more converts. Thanx Mr. Didi. Let's welcome our new brothers and sisters and their families to Islam.

  • my opinio is what the fuck kind democratic socioty are you living in that is 1. opressing war for democracy worldwide

    but then 2. will say this crap, when inside of your FIRST amendment states freedom of religion?!?

    this video sounds like the beggining of a fucking holocost to me, and especially when people in politics or guys running for president or aiding the president are involved

    so hears my statement 'democracy my butt'

    whats next for you america, people screaming hiel hitler?

  • The type of language being used to describe us and to point to Muslims as "the problem' and 'the danger' is almost identical to the language used to scapegoat the Jews before and during the Nazi regime.

    Does "Never Again" really mean "NEVER AGAIN"? I'd like to hear something from the Jewish Anti Defamation League on this topic.

  • Dear sister LMartella all the stories you hear in the news comming from the middle East and the Islamic world have been blown out of proportion and destorted to used to vilify Islam and muslims to make us look like the beast, I stopped trusting western media a long time ago, they pick and chose what to air and what to hide overstating a few details in controversy to shape the public opinion, we all know who is behind this and why!

  • Salam sister .. mashALLAH excellent points you raise! The majority of anti-Islamic channels on this site, the majority of haters who 'constantly' attack the Muslims on this site are American. I think that the American government & media use the exact same tactics as the Nazi's used to turn people into murdering monsters. England is lagging behind like poodles .. learned behaviour from ex-priminister Tony B-Liar.

  • As-Salam Alaikum Wa Rahmatuliahi Wa Barakatuh,Jazakallahu khair.Very well said.

  • Stay strong Sis.

    May the Blessings of Allah be upon you.

  • Great job, you are making the best Muslim videos on youtube (and that includes ummahfilms...yeah i said it :)

    I made a spoof of Gouliani's youtube ad, posted it as a video reply. It was so ridicules i don't think people will be able to tell mine is the spoof, lol

  • majority of comments were anti Islamic

    and pro guliani and his co chariman

  • Remove the word Muslim, and REPLACE IT with JEWS, and then SEE the response!

  • youtube HQ will be bombed

  • "Remove the word Muslim, and REPLACE IT with JEWS, and then SEE the response!"

    That is so the perfect comment!!! I'm not even going to try to compete with that! ... BTW great video Sister Lamartella

  • perhaps remove the word muslim altogether in this context? I'm tired of seeing the words "muslim" and "terrorist" for example in the same sentence. Surely killing yourself and other innocent people, regardless of their beliefs, is against muslim beliefs and as such should not be considered muslim. The media should use words such as "terrorist" and "extremist" on their own.

  • Linda, what a sad sad article. I just have to mirror what wildjourne was saying. There is good and bad in everything, NOT just Muslims.

    Shelly

  • Salam alaikum Sister,

    BarakAllahufeeki.

  • Jazak Allah Khair Sister for bringing this article to our attention.

    I agree with you sister. but let me tell u this fact:

    InshaAllah those people will see the true path and they will become muslims. So don't be disappointed inshaallah Islam will be clear to everyone and sooner or later they will accepted but remember we represent the islam here in the U.S.

  • That was a very great video Linda! I could clearly see the hurt, pain, and anger in your eyes! You almost made me cry, because I could see the the negative feelings in you, however I know you have faith in the majority of the American people that we are not all islamophobic like from those comments you read! Keep your head up! I pray that this islamophobia will pass! =)

  • Not angry... more scared... worried... and yea, hurt.

    I pray this all passes, too... :-)

    Peace!

  • This statement: "people that fly plane into the twin towers". All proof i know of that the american Government had, has been refuted. As a matter of fact, many non muslims even state it's and inside Job, so i wouldnt go by the media :)

  • manshAllah sister iam very proud of u, Now i would say u represent the real muslims not the terrorists :) and dont pay attentiokn to those who hate islam because ur a strong muslimah

  • You continue to inspire the American part of the Ummah sister! MashAllah! I think that you made the best point when you said that the parallels and/or double standards are due to uneducated and fearful unbelievers. This situation is exactly why Muslims must strengthen the Ummah with Dawah and must make the extra effort to educate the unbelievers...inshAllah! Keep up the wonderful work with the videos!!!!

    MaSalama, Sister S.

  • Great Video Sister. Keep them coming.

    Asalam u alaikum WRWB

  • The people who hate you are extremist Christians. Unfortunatley there are a lot of them and they are every bit as dangerous as Extremist Muslims. All extremists are idiots. You are wonderful. I love your video and think you are a beautiful intelligent person. Don't let them get you down.

  • I don't want to kill you or wish you ill. I don't believe all muslims are bad. Some people are just simple minded idiots and refuse to get an education.

  • this is a great video, i just wish their were more muslims such as yourself.

    im sorry, my intent is not to anger you, but to understand. how can someone as sweet and clear minded as you, not see the disturbing images conjured in the koran? what it says about non-believers is very clear and very intolerant. why do you feel a need to submit your will to such a system?

  • Those are about war time situation

    other than Tat Islam tell us that killing any innocent is like killing humanity

  • not just when it says to kill non-believers, but just the entire outlook toward them. religion itself seems to instill bigotry and a false sense of self superiority...

  • the reasons many people feel a need to submit is usually very personal, so I won't go into that - but I will say this: yes, there are some people in ALL systems (religious, political, etc) that have a sense of self-superiority. but this is caused by those individual's own mentality, not the system. in fact, the quran commands us not to be proud. there are countless reminders that Allah does not like the boastful/proud

  • well, all holy scriptures seem to have the same hypocritical double meanings on this issue. it will say not to be proud and then assign divine favoritism to themselves. i dont see how it is entirely the fault of the reader when they are raised to respect or even think true these forms of scripture all their life.

  • truth is, nobody knows what is beyond the universe, if anything, and to teach children they have the absolute truth based on a simple book, just encourages illogical thinking, and felicitates poor decision making in their future.

  • be that as it may, the point is: no matter whether you believe you have absolute truth or not, you are clearly commanded not to be proud. for the people who continue to be proud, then that is their own weakness that they need to work on. It's not a weakness of the system, be it religious, political, social, etc. Btw, there is no such thing as "divine favouritism" towards muslims: all who seek can receive guidance. this is very clear in the quran

  • "there is no such thing as "divine favoritism" towards muslims"

    mohammad clearly stated that the prophets of the past have strayed from the "true faith" and teachings of god. if you believe he is correct and that you are now following the "true faith" imposed by god, don't you think that means that everyone else must be wrong?

  • he never said that about the prophets of the past. he said the generations *after* the prophets strayed (just like some muslims today have also strayed). and it is besides the point, which is that anybody can receive guidance, either muslim or non-muslim. there is no "divine favouritism"

  • "mohammad clearly stated that the prophets of the past have strayed from the "true faith" and teachings of god."

    i would like to see.

    salam

  • yes, i was off, i take that statement back. though i dont see how an argument mohammad proposed can be verified.

  • i am not sure of which u r talking about.

  • The whole point in Islam is that ur accountable to GOD therefore u must try ur best on Earth not to offend or hurt because that can be brought upon u on the day of judgement and u wouldnt be in a very good position if u pissed ppl off because even if God forgives u these ppl may not and God would have to provide the justice

  • thats wrong

    he said they did sins

    but a very minor sin for a human, a sin for a prophet

    they weren't perfect

  • say what now? the Prophet-Peace&blessings be upon him- NEVER said that!!! He said that sometimes followers strayed NEVER the Prophets. &2ndly no one muslims espcially have the right to judege anyone but themselves because we know this is God's vicinity & to infringe on that is to infringe on God and He-high &exalted- wouldnt appreciate that

  • no. muhammad pbuh was the LAST prophet. he said that the other prophets committed MINOR sins for a prophet

  • I suggest before you utter nonsense like this read the tafseer- word-for-word explanation of the Quran.

    Heck, before that, read the Prophet's life.

    There is no disturbing images or anti-kuffar. Arabic is not the same EXACT in English. It is altered.

  • my comments are a year old, and i knew little of islamic faith. if you want to talk now, i warn you, i know how to break down your religious claims with far more clarity.

  • you can try

    but no clarity will get you anywhere if you mind and heart are sealed

    those who seek the quran for knowledge, gain knowledge

    those who seek it for mistakes, will find many mistakes

    those who seek it to destroy or discredit it, you will find only evil and destruction

    it all depends on the person seeking it

    facts are facts..but, unless you open your eyes I can't help you

  • if your holy book is so open to interpretation what was the point of making it to begin with? if a god wanted to make itself known, im sure he could have found a far better way of doing it. the only rational explanation to the poor delivery system, as well as the outdated and immoral teachings found in the koran, is that it was written exclusively by men. it may have been some intellectually revolutionary thinking for the time on some levels... but still as flawed as the men who wrote it.

  • It's not open to interpretation. It is clear as glass. However, you could take something as pure as a unicorn and use it for heinous purposes. Most people's intention is NOT to see what the Holy Quran states, but to read it to use it against itself.

    The Quran was sent for all times. It's NOT outdated. immoral? excuse me but this is the Quran not the shit the West has been in. Again. You USE the quran against itself. If that is what you desire, that is what you'll get.

  • no.

    WRONG. WRONG. WRONG.

    The Quran was by God.

    If you THINK men wrote it, write something better. Man's writing is WITH flaws. Compare your challenge and see if it holds.

    The Quran even states.

    Allah says: Or they say: He has forged it. Say: Then bring ten forged chapters like it and If then they do not answer you, know that it is sent down with the Knowledge of Allah, besides Whom there is no other God. Will you then be Muslims? [Sûrah Hûd: 13]

  • Allah says: Or do they say He has forged it. Say: Then bring a chapter like it and call and call whoever you can besides Allah if you are truthful. [10: 38]

    Allah says: And if you are in doubt concerning that which We have sent down to Our servant, then produce a chapter like it and call your witnesses besides Allah if you be truthful. If you do not do so and you will never do so then fear a fire whose fuel is men and stones prepared for the disbelievers. [Sûrah al-Baqarah: 23-24]

  • know that those who who stupidly claim the Quran was written by men, even if they gather all the forces in the universe they will never close to a single word or verse

  • you want something more poetic and profound than the koran? hamlet act 3 scene 1. you want something more intellectual than the koran? einstein's "on the electrodynamics of moving bodies". clearly both written by men, and far superior in my humble opinion.

    if you think a god wrote that book, then i must conclude, that "god" is too small for me.

    if you want me to point out a couple immoral muslim teachings that should be condemned by rational people, let me know. (thought crime comes to mind)...

  • well then I must conclude that youve never read the quran

    you are blinded by yhe falsehood that plagues western society

    btw, none of those are more poetical or intellectual or could even come close to being better

    point out ANYTHING..I DARE YOU

    as I said try doing whatever you want

    idiots like you have said far worse things about the Quran and have been proven wrong! you couldn't write a single verse or word better than it

    i pity you. you are really blind.

  • you do not seek to GAIN KNOWLEDGE. you seek to continue being blinded and try using the Quran against it

    Surah Baqarah describes ppl like you well:

    those who seek the Quran to find many mistakes, will see only mistakes

    those who desire to pervert the quran, will see only perversion

    those who seek to gain knowledge, will be enlightened

    those who seek evil, will find only evil

    that is its miracle. you seek only. it's what you see. perverted human..

  • im glad you have everything figured out. every answer you need wrapped up in a single book. well, i'll continue to explore as many avenues of knowledge as possible; cross checking analyzing and testing hypothesis are more my thing. if submitting to the "answers" you are given by some self imposed authority figure is your thing, then i wish you luck. i only hope it doesn't lead you to do anything dangerous or destructive, physically or politically.

  • do whatever you need. but im not so much a fool as to say things about the quran like you do.

    have you noticed that in the past few 100 years few ppl who claim erroneous things about the quran and are told to write something better they can't?

    first thing is if you want to crosscheck, crosschecking in english is useless. it was a quran revealed by word, not paper or parchment. it's in arabic. the translation is done only by those given knowledge.

  • again, i dont understand why your god couldn't make his message clearer. why not simply inscribe a stone with the message of the koran and have everyone see it in their own language? he's all powerful right? maybe your god doesn't want to be understood? or maybe it was made up by men...

    as for providing an example of something written better than the koran, i gave it to you. its not my fault you have bad taste in valuable works.

  • because, as it says, arabic is the easiest language

    i don't mean give an example of something better. because, there is none. shakespeare and einstein were not the first of their kind. there were many researchers. the quran, however, is not a book of research or knowledge or study. it is a holy book. no one man or group's writings can compare to it. t