This review was first class: very straightforward and thorough without being too wordy and even answered the one question of AR lower compatibility that I had on my mind.
@iTziLLUMY The M27 is almost identical. It fires from an open bolt for better cooling and has a heavier profile barrel, different mag etc... It's essentially a MR556 designed for a sustained high rate of fire. From what Ive heard, the Marines hated it at first because giving up a 200 rnd LMG for a gussied up assault rifle was kind of heretical. But the M27 has its merits, and they've warmed up to it.
i have the hk416n issued as my weapon in the Norwegian army, we have the disassembly tool on one side of the hk-karabiner hook on the sling and the magazine disassemby tool on the other side of the hook. and since the sling is hooked on to the sling adapter on the handguard we never lose it. hk should have included this sling with the mr556 if you ask me...
ouch! rear sight, that would make anyone mad as hell. Well the Germans are learning to play the Capitalist game. Just make them buy a special tool only we make, lol. Nice shooting though
Great video.. thanks for your time to make/post it. I wonder if this is worth the premium over a LMT piston 5.56mm? (I have a Colt LE6920 now - this would be an add). TY
@williamblake69 i saw the video with the hk 416, and the "over the beach" test, but what i noticed was that the water spayed out the back of the stock upon firing after being submerged, this version seems to have a different stock, seems like there is no "outlet" for the water
ill justtake the upper personally., i hate the lowers.,takedown TOOLS?? buttstock sucks., buttpad falls off??, i dont want to have to have a tool to open my rear takedown pin>>> but yea, the UPPERS are top notch
your vids are still hands down the best available to the public, you are surely giving the literature at the stores a run for their money..... and best of all its free for us, thanks :)
I live in California. Can't have a pistol grip and tool-less detachable magazine on the same weapon except a .22... Would a Monster-Man Grip (originally made for the AR15) be compatible with this rifle? If not, maybe with some DIY modification? From my observation, they look pretty much the same... I need confirmation though.
@Sturmgewehre Have you had any problems w/ your ACR? I recall someone posting a video in youtube saying that the barrel says 5.56 nato, but when he shot 5/56, it started to cause problems. And after he returned it and got it back, they said he should shoot 223 instead. Lol, have you had any similar problems?
@timothychong48 It was one guy with all those problems, and I'm not sure how that worked out for him. The videos were pretty old, I would think the problems he experienced have long since been remedied. I have two ACR's and shoot them all the time (see my most recent video) and have no issues with either of them. Yes, I shoot very hot XM193F ammo through it and never have problems, and I shoot Wolf without issue. I think they're great rifles.
@Sturmgewehre Awesome!! Thanks for the positive feedback, the ACR's reputation aint that good with other people. Good job with all of your videos man, I think your vids are the most informative, keep up the good job and send them vids coming!!
Just for reference HK designed the high reliability steel mag for the British army. When the standard assault rifle of the British army was upgraded a few years back to the L85A2 by HK the contract included new mags.
Irony is the British army purchased 1 million Magpul EMAG last year for use in Afghanistan.
If they would of kept the same 416 barrel with chrome lining, and I don't like the 'tapered rifling', rather just have standard hammer forged chromed, or even nitriding, maybe polygonal rifling? I REALLY wish that they had a bayo lug.. Why not, it's made here in U.S. right, at least they went with a NON M4 length handguard, prefer mid-length D.I.'s and GPU's, ESPECIALLY with a bayo lug on 16" mid length. I'd prefer an Adcor B.E.A.R. Elite, GREAT VID!
@reeseman67 For price, performance, chromed and hammer forged FN bbl, and a TRUE free float tube. Still wish IT had a bayo lug with a middy gas system.. Ehh, I'll stick my Bulgy/'K-Var' bayo I got on the cheap from Centerfire on the SOON TO BE HERE SGL-21 and my M9 on mid-length/20" AR's... And Mossberg 590A1, !
@reeseman67 For price, performance, chromed and hammer forged FN bbl, and a TRUE free float tube. Still wish IT had a bayo lug with a middy gas system.. Ehh, I'll stick my Bulgy/'K-Var' bayo I got on the cheap from Centerfire on the SOON TO BE HERE SGL-21 and my M9 on mid-length/20" AR's... And Mossberg 590A1, !
Thanks for the excellent review. Best I have seen so far. Trying to decide between the HKMR223, HKMR308 and SIG SG 550 Classic Green (I live in Canada). I really hate that butt stock. Can see it falling off at the worst possible time. Do you think it is easily replacable with an aftermarket butt stock?
Thanks for the excellent review. Best I have seen so far. Trying to decide between the HKMR223, HKMR308 and SIG SG 550 Classic Green (I live in Canada). I really hate that butt stock. Can see it falling off at the worst possible time. Do you think it is easily replacable with an aftermarket butt stock?
Thanks for the excellent review. Best I have seen so far. Trying to decide between the HKMR223, HKMR308 and SIG SG 550 Classic Green (I live in Canada). I really hate that butt stock. Can see it falling off at the worst possible time. Do you think it is easily replacable with an aftermarket butt stock?
You get what you pay for when it comes to guns & I know this oh to well. H&K products are built very well & thats one thing I do know.I own some very high end weapons & some cheap stuff over the years that I got for a steal.
I wont look at the cheap stuff at all because I know better, its hard to resell cheap weapons & most of its is just junk with a fancy badge on it.
Great review of this rifle little too expensive for my tastes but you kept my interest through the entire video. I dont want to get into a whose videos are better discussion but i think i really prefer your style to Nutn's anyday. but thats just my preference keep up the good work!!
@Philippeorlando I prefer the ergonomics. I shoot the rifle very well. The rifle can be completely stripped in seconds without any tools including the removal of the barrel. It's probably the most evolved military style rifle on the market right now.
Your groups with M193 and Wolf are worse or no better than groups I can shoot with my Colt 6920, and I'm convinced you're a better shot than I.
So, then, my biggest question is, why should I spend $2500 to $3000 for a rifle that's as accurate as an AK... When I can just get an AK with all the trimmings for that much?
Alternately, why get that over a DD or Colt?
Fantastic reviews, sad to say the rifle doesn't seem worth it.
Fantastic review! Love the way it is structured - both table top and field. The guy seems very professional, and it's a joy to hear what he says. I'm more of a handgun-kind-of-guy, but getting into rifles. Here in Norway, the military uses Heckler & Koch, both HK416 and HK417. The civilian version of HK416 is called MR223 here, and MR556A1 in the USA. The HK417 is called MR308 here. But what is it called in the USA? Would love to see you make a review of the latter as well.
just got mine the other day!love everything about it except the sights! already ordered magpul's 2nd gen sights.the weight , not a issue for me do to the fact ill be at the range 75% of the time.no pmags no problem emags are just as fine.
i absolutely HATE the hk sights on all of their guns, if i have a AR, i want it to have the old fashioned sights, chrome lined barrel, and 15 inch barrel, everything else on the MR556 is nice, like the stock, grip and magwell, but it would be way better if it could take Pmags, and id put a magpul handguard on it too
as usual great review, thanks. You could build one bad ass ar for 2500-3000, dont think i want something i need a tool to field strip, and pmags.........
H&K, perfecting the art of ripping customers off. It may be smooth, but I'll deal with slightly looser tolerances for several thousand rounds of ammo price difference.
@Sturmgewehre personal protection you can rely on no matter what right? :D gotta love those AKs...the only way you can get them to STOP working is run it over with a tank...LOL
I've notice that the curveture on the P-Mags are different than your typical STANAG AR Magazines. The curveture on The P-mag starts more from the top, while the STANAG type curveture starts almost half way down from the top. This plus the MR's magwell design been parallel to the barrel, compared to your typical AR magwell with slight upward angle from the back of the magwell is why the P-Mags won't fit. I have a similar issue with my FN FS2000.
You said it was a pleasure to shoot it, that it's smoother than other ARs. I suppose it has to do with the upper receiver construction, bolt and the lower receiver that doesn't rattle at all thanks to those pins. Does it feel the same way if you change HK's lower receiver with a standard AR lower? It's to take advantage in the disassembly, so you don't have to use that modified Allen wrench.
very good video, I think that like the bushmaster ACR prices will drop fairly quickly after a period of time. The quality of manufacturing, barrel thickness and HK reliability would possibly be what drives me to buy this rifle as I think you only need one good rifle however I would hope there would be a longer barreled version.
3k rifle and requires a special takedown tool and a special tool to adjust the rear iron sight which isn't included.... Not to mention the probability of loosing both special tools makes this rifle a no brainer .... Buy a 5.56 bushmaster, cleaning kit and large amounts of ammo...an use the money saved and practice shooting once a month... Good review though...
2011..... and no rear sight tool for a proprietary sight? No P-mags? that butt-stock and grip, and 9 pounds before Light and AFG? 2500.00 to 3K? I'll go Daniel's or Knights armament any day over that set-up
For me atleast it would make more sense if you were going to buy this weapon is to only buy the upper if possible and a standard ar lower. No pmag problems and will probably save you a little chunk of change. Great vid I didnt think hk was ever going to comeout with a civilian version of there 416!
I haven't shot this rifle, and probably never will because of the price tag, but did examine one at the NRA convention. I'll second StG's comments about the grip. It just feels weird compared to any other AR grip I've used. The buttstock felt okay and to be honest I didn't check-out the trapdoor, so can't comment on how easily it will open. Overall I came away with a feeling of "This is what $2.5k buys these days?"
Actually, the weight difference would still be pretty big. The MR556A1 has the heaviest barrel I've seen on a M4 sized rifle. Take a look at the disassembly video. Plus, I compare it to a standard M4 because that's what I felt most people want to see it compared to.
9+ lbs with with the HK mag is way too heavy for an intended carbine with a 16 inch barrel, and that's stock configuration! My 20 inch SS barreled Ar15 with with FF rails and a Leopold 2.5-8 MRT optic is just under 10 lbs. I'll take my 10 lbs souped up AR15 over the 9lbs stock carbine any day.
the PMAGs thing is weird... I tried both 20 and 30 rounds PMAGs on a European MR223 and they did work...very tight fit but they locked inplace and hold the bolt open on the last round
@scottcho The problem with the PMAG's is specific to the HK lower, so yes - the PMAGs work fine in the Oly lower. The zero doesn't shift when you swap lowers, or shouldn't, since the sights are mounted to the upper.
$2500-$3000 for a MR556A1??!?!? I'll take it, In Canada we get the German made version MR223 which is $4500... Oh by the way, Canadian dollar value is higher than US right now...
I really wish you had done a comparison with it against the SCAR 16, that's it's one and only current competition (same function, caliber, and price range).
Outstanding review,I'm waiting to pick mine up at the end of this month.thanks for the info on the mags! I was getting ready to put a order in for pmags!
Good review, and seems like a good rifle, but it's a no go for me. Also why wouldnt HK give you the rear sight tool? I have a Rock River Arms DI AR-15 and one of their new Piston guns, both are great, no problems at all, and not to mention, cheaper. Also all but 2 of my 11 mags are magpul PMAG
obviously the atf took ur sight tool so u couldnt shot anything haha. not my first choice for rifles if i was going strictly for accuracy, id probably build a 24in bull barrel with a nice scope and target trigger etc looks like a really nice gun tho (how much $?)
On the P-Mag, it looks like it's the waffle pattern that's stopping it from locking. Hypothetically, if you were to sand down that part of the mag to be level with the rest of it, would it lock properly?
Great vid, it seems to me though, to be a very expensive AR-15 with some mostly minor modifications, i would like to see this rifle go up against a high-end AR-15 factory piston rifle, like my LWRC M6A2, and see what the difference would be, since they nearly the same price (the LWRC is about $500 cheaper). Would also like to see it up against the SCAR light.
@MultiSr16 Good eye! It's not my rifle, it's a loaner for a class I'm taking next weekend. I got it from a gunshop that uses it as a demo rifle. I'm not sure if they did that or if Oly shipped it out that way.
@Sturmgewehre i def kno its not yours there Sturmgewehre, great review., i just saw smoke so i thought i'd say somethin:) yea thx i do got a good eye !
Great review as always man. I wouldn't pay the money for a "battle rifle" that I need a tool to adjust the sights and disassemble the rifle with. Plus, as you stated, that butt pad is a joke. I can easily see that thing getting lost while maneuvering in the woods. I hope the 416 is a bit better.
I think this review was well done,I would have liked to see an accuracy test between the Olympic Arms AR and the HK AR. I think that for the price it would not have the negatives that you pointed out. There has been 60 years of AR production and HK version doesn't hit a homerun for twice the price.
Too bad HK increased the price by 400 bucks not even 6 months after its limited release. For some reason I really want this rifle still though and I'll have to sell my M6A3 i don't want 2 piston AR's. The reason I would think of doing that is because I really do prefer DI over any piston AR rifle mainly due to the fact its not standardized yet. Another reason is while the piston design is a solution to a none existent problem it creates other problems. Good review!!
Great job. I'm curious why anyone would want to get the lower given the weird pistol grip/stock, need for tool to take down the pins, and inability to use pmags (and presumably the new surefire 60 round mag). Germans might have over-engineered it a bit. The M1/M14 safety is muck like a regular AR safety - you can't place it on safe when it's hammer down - I guess it hasn't been a priority for the US military these past years :)
I'm not really diggin that you need specific tools to do basic things on this rifle... that's not really practical in my book.
And it looks like your ACOG is super far back... are you still getting the right eye relief?
TheSillmatic 1 day ago
Ignore my comment. Thought I was doing a search. Sorry.
gthdab 1 week ago
Scar16s
gthdab 1 week ago
Thank you!!! BEAUTIFULLY MADE VIDEO.
marcot401 1 week ago
amazing review. I am ready to go buy it right now.
pccoder2671 2 weeks ago
This gas piston system is better than the system used in the Colt SP901 ?
checchia 3 weeks ago
Thanks for the very informative review. I am currently looking at getting one. You answered most of my questions in the video review. Great work!
faniesmith 1 month ago
This review was first class: very straightforward and thorough without being too wordy and even answered the one question of AR lower compatibility that I had on my mind.
coyoteatquiznos 1 month ago
would you go with this or the scar16s?
dieHoelzer 1 month ago
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dieHoelzer 1 month ago
Looks like the M27 iar from BF3!
iTziLLUMY 1 month ago
@iTziLLUMY The M27 is almost identical. It fires from an open bolt for better cooling and has a heavier profile barrel, different mag etc... It's essentially a MR556 designed for a sustained high rate of fire. From what Ive heard, the Marines hated it at first because giving up a 200 rnd LMG for a gussied up assault rifle was kind of heretical. But the M27 has its merits, and they've warmed up to it.
mmx25 1 month ago
I'm already sold on the gun can't wait for mine! Fantastic review man really well put together
hookaburns77 1 month ago
@LeonardMichaelis they usually run for about $2400 give or take a few hundred. Its crazy
cj89311 1 month ago
AK reliability with AR accuracy. This rifle had 3 times less malfunctions than the M4 in the last U.S. Army tests.
sevenpeaksandvalleys 1 month ago
Very nice and informational review!
LeonardMichaelis 2 months ago
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LeonardMichaelis 2 months ago
how is your experience utilizing the iron sight on the acog?
blazinpapid 2 months ago
Is the AR-15 upper compatible with the 416 lower?
paulalex19 2 months ago in playlist Firearms Reviews
i have the hk416n issued as my weapon in the Norwegian army, we have the disassembly tool on one side of the hk-karabiner hook on the sling and the magazine disassemby tool on the other side of the hook. and since the sling is hooked on to the sling adapter on the handguard we never lose it. hk should have included this sling with the mr556 if you ask me...
thelugerman 2 months ago
needle nose pliers to adjust elevation
uiiiiop1234 2 months ago
Best HK MR556 review on YouTube thanks
samangel2008 2 months ago
ouch! rear sight, that would make anyone mad as hell. Well the Germans are learning to play the Capitalist game. Just make them buy a special tool only we make, lol. Nice shooting though
Homehous 2 months ago
Great video.. thanks for your time to make/post it. I wonder if this is worth the premium over a LMT piston 5.56mm? (I have a Colt LE6920 now - this would be an add). TY
mrphotoid 2 months ago 2
Was curious to know if there are any rifles with a left hand twist vs. right. Seems like most are right and I wanted to know why. Thanks!
dcpinner 2 months ago
Great video and review of the MR 556. Thank You!!
This will be a great addition to my current collection.
billybop90 2 months ago
can this weapon pass the "over the beach test" ?
williamblake69 2 months ago
@williamblake69 i saw the video with the hk 416, and the "over the beach" test, but what i noticed was that the water spayed out the back of the stock upon firing after being submerged, this version seems to have a different stock, seems like there is no "outlet" for the water
williamblake69 2 months ago
why does the barrel taper like that sturm ??
MultiSr16 2 months ago
ill justtake the upper personally., i hate the lowers.,takedown TOOLS?? buttstock sucks., buttpad falls off??, i dont want to have to have a tool to open my rear takedown pin>>> but yea, the UPPERS are top notch
MultiSr16 2 months ago
your vids are still hands down the best available to the public, you are surely giving the literature at the stores a run for their money..... and best of all its free for us, thanks :)
GeLsEnKiRcHeN95 2 months ago
I live in California. Can't have a pistol grip and tool-less detachable magazine on the same weapon except a .22... Would a Monster-Man Grip (originally made for the AR15) be compatible with this rifle? If not, maybe with some DIY modification? From my observation, they look pretty much the same... I need confirmation though.
GrandRiffAuto73 2 months ago
wow looks liker im getting the AR that price is out of my league
13xxnetoxx 3 months ago
@Sturmgewehre Have you had any problems w/ your ACR? I recall someone posting a video in youtube saying that the barrel says 5.56 nato, but when he shot 5/56, it started to cause problems. And after he returned it and got it back, they said he should shoot 223 instead. Lol, have you had any similar problems?
timothychong48 3 months ago
@timothychong48 It was one guy with all those problems, and I'm not sure how that worked out for him. The videos were pretty old, I would think the problems he experienced have long since been remedied. I have two ACR's and shoot them all the time (see my most recent video) and have no issues with either of them. Yes, I shoot very hot XM193F ammo through it and never have problems, and I shoot Wolf without issue. I think they're great rifles.
Sturmgewehre 3 months ago
@Sturmgewehre Awesome!! Thanks for the positive feedback, the ACR's reputation aint that good with other people. Good job with all of your videos man, I think your vids are the most informative, keep up the good job and send them vids coming!!
timothychong48 3 months ago
anyone else think it was Larry the Cable Guy doing the review before they clicked on the video?
zseartcc25 4 months ago
Just for reference HK designed the high reliability steel mag for the British army. When the standard assault rifle of the British army was upgraded a few years back to the L85A2 by HK the contract included new mags.
Irony is the British army purchased 1 million Magpul EMAG last year for use in Afghanistan.
Fedaykin24 4 months ago
Excellent review
DocteurSeabass 4 months ago
is recoil on mk556a1 < ar15 since mk556a1 is 2 lbs heavier?
great review...this video will help me choose what I'm looking for...thanks!
2jzgteSupraJZA80 4 months ago
is it worth $3000?? I dont think so. Paying mostly for the name. If it said HK416 on it they could sell it for even more just cause of the name
ciconcrete 5 months ago
Why did you take down you ACR vs Scar video :(
clarencemiller3 5 months ago
Great review
aparchedwarlus 5 months ago
Great job on the review.
gburleigh 5 months ago
If they would of kept the same 416 barrel with chrome lining, and I don't like the 'tapered rifling', rather just have standard hammer forged chromed, or even nitriding, maybe polygonal rifling? I REALLY wish that they had a bayo lug.. Why not, it's made here in U.S. right, at least they went with a NON M4 length handguard, prefer mid-length D.I.'s and GPU's, ESPECIALLY with a bayo lug on 16" mid length. I'd prefer an Adcor B.E.A.R. Elite, GREAT VID!
reeseman67 5 months ago
@reeseman67 For price, performance, chromed and hammer forged FN bbl, and a TRUE free float tube. Still wish IT had a bayo lug with a middy gas system.. Ehh, I'll stick my Bulgy/'K-Var' bayo I got on the cheap from Centerfire on the SOON TO BE HERE SGL-21 and my M9 on mid-length/20" AR's... And Mossberg 590A1, !
reeseman67 5 months ago
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@reeseman67 For price, performance, chromed and hammer forged FN bbl, and a TRUE free float tube. Still wish IT had a bayo lug with a middy gas system.. Ehh, I'll stick my Bulgy/'K-Var' bayo I got on the cheap from Centerfire on the SOON TO BE HERE SGL-21 and my M9 on mid-length/20" AR's... And Mossberg 590A1, !
reeseman67 5 months ago
would a pmag work with a standard ar15 lower?
humboldtgunguy 5 months ago
@humboldtgunguy The AR's I own, all of them use PMAGs without a problem.
Sturmgewehre 5 months ago
Thanks for the excellent review. Best I have seen so far. Trying to decide between the HKMR223, HKMR308 and SIG SG 550 Classic Green (I live in Canada). I really hate that butt stock. Can see it falling off at the worst possible time. Do you think it is easily replacable with an aftermarket butt stock?
calgarywarmfloors 4 months ago
Thanks for the excellent review. Best I have seen so far. Trying to decide between the HKMR223, HKMR308 and SIG SG 550 Classic Green (I live in Canada). I really hate that butt stock. Can see it falling off at the worst possible time. Do you think it is easily replacable with an aftermarket butt stock?
calgarywarmfloors 4 months ago
@calgarywarmfloors You don't like a butt-stock that you have never handle or touched before????
Frankfritz 4 months ago
@Frankfritz So sure of yourself Frankfritz? I have handled both the HK MR556 and the HK MR762.
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Thanks for the excellent review. Best I have seen so far. Trying to decide between the HKMR223, HKMR308 and SIG SG 550 Classic Green (I live in Canada). I really hate that butt stock. Can see it falling off at the worst possible time. Do you think it is easily replacable with an aftermarket butt stock?
calgarywarmfloors 4 months ago
Outstanding review.
rnr7 5 months ago
Too bad this thing is so gosh darn expensive
cfeder45 5 months ago
You get what you pay for when it comes to guns & I know this oh to well. H&K products are built very well & thats one thing I do know.I own some very high end weapons & some cheap stuff over the years that I got for a steal.
I wont look at the cheap stuff at all because I know better, its hard to resell cheap weapons & most of its is just junk with a fancy badge on it.
ivedigga 5 months ago
i NEED one of these
SonsOfLiberty65 5 months ago
German engineering FTW
decimator22 5 months ago 16
Could you adjust elevation using bullet heads? I think that's what they tried to do, so that no tool was needed.
Lardman678 5 months ago
@Lardman678 using 7.62x51 you can
nesskafaen 5 months ago
Great review of this rifle little too expensive for my tastes but you kept my interest through the entire video. I dont want to get into a whose videos are better discussion but i think i really prefer your style to Nutn's anyday. but thats just my preference keep up the good work!!
gimmethatglock 6 months ago
Ok, great! Thanks for the feedback
Philippeorlando 6 months ago
Ok, I've watched several of your reviews. But I'm just curious. If you had to own ONLY one rifle, which one would you own:
Scar 16S
Scar 17S
AKS-74U
ACR
HK MR556A1
Philippeorlando 6 months ago
@Philippeorlando Of the ones listed, the ACR.
Sturmgewehre 6 months ago
@Sturmgewehre
Would you mind elaborating more? Why the ACR?
Philippeorlando 6 months ago
@Philippeorlando I prefer the ergonomics. I shoot the rifle very well. The rifle can be completely stripped in seconds without any tools including the removal of the barrel. It's probably the most evolved military style rifle on the market right now.
Sturmgewehre 6 months ago
@Philippeorlando that rifle with the best ammunition support!
MegaStoken 5 months ago
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Philippeorlando 6 months ago
Great video, great review! Keep 'em coming.
gekejo1 6 months ago
2500$ are not mutch for the type of rifle that mostlikely killed osama bin laden
dasbasti1990 6 months ago
How would this compare to the SCAR 16S?
crashtest2302 6 months ago
Great review!.. very professional. I interested in th 7.62 version. It would be nice if you could review that too. Thanks.
robertellard 6 months ago
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robertellard 6 months ago
never think compatible with others ar15 lover receiver.
AmericanelST205 6 months ago
And everyone bitches about how expensive the Ruger SR556 is. lol One day I'm gonna win the lottery and buy an H&K!
friskyrabbit 6 months ago
Awesome review as usual. How do u think this one stacks up against the Barrett rec7?
aa134368 6 months ago
Very helpful review you just saved me over 3 grand thanks so much!
Henckles 6 months ago
the Emag and the 20 round Pmag will work with the MR556
rookieshooter1 6 months ago
Why no comparison/mentioning of the trigger action/feel?
KMan750 6 months ago
Your groups with M193 and Wolf are worse or no better than groups I can shoot with my Colt 6920, and I'm convinced you're a better shot than I.
So, then, my biggest question is, why should I spend $2500 to $3000 for a rifle that's as accurate as an AK... When I can just get an AK with all the trimmings for that much?
Alternately, why get that over a DD or Colt?
Fantastic reviews, sad to say the rifle doesn't seem worth it.
Gunman84 6 months ago
Fantastic review! Love the way it is structured - both table top and field. The guy seems very professional, and it's a joy to hear what he says. I'm more of a handgun-kind-of-guy, but getting into rifles. Here in Norway, the military uses Heckler & Koch, both HK416 and HK417. The civilian version of HK416 is called MR223 here, and MR556A1 in the USA. The HK417 is called MR308 here. But what is it called in the USA? Would love to see you make a review of the latter as well.
IamMagPie 6 months ago
Hey Sturmgewehre, If H@K sells you one less tool in a toolkit you got hosed.
SuperRip7 6 months ago
lol bild a zombie frankenstein gun :D
deutschessoftair 6 months ago
good unbiased review.
808Arsenal 7 months ago
best review ever.good job mate
arianis99 7 months ago
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just got mine the other day!love everything about it except the sights! already ordered magpul's 2nd gen sights.the weight , not a issue for me do to the fact ill be at the range 75% of the time.no pmags no problem emags are just as fine.
MrMilladog 7 months ago
i absolutely HATE the hk sights on all of their guns, if i have a AR, i want it to have the old fashioned sights, chrome lined barrel, and 15 inch barrel, everything else on the MR556 is nice, like the stock, grip and magwell, but it would be way better if it could take Pmags, and id put a magpul handguard on it too
XvChriisvX 7 months ago
Seems like a nice gun apart from the weight. I was surprised to hear it weighs almost 9 lb barebones. Seems a bit much for a 5.56 with a 16" barrel.
NoNameMaddox000 7 months ago
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Lardman678 7 months ago
MR762? and what's the little tube by the ejection port?
crashtest2302 7 months ago
It's real?!
killchain187 7 months ago
Are you going to do a review on the MR762A1?
thanks
jules771 7 months ago
as usual great review, thanks. You could build one bad ass ar for 2500-3000, dont think i want something i need a tool to field strip, and pmags.........
JonnyC308 7 months ago
Great video! Very detailed.
globaleyez 7 months ago
Awesome Review! Thanks for helping me in my decision :)
stockaccord 7 months ago
Great review!
aaron8862006 7 months ago
I want the HK but no way can i justify paying that much $. I could buy 2 ARs and a pistol for that $. Just my 2 cents. Thanks for the review!
serilus4life 7 months ago
H&K, perfecting the art of ripping customers off. It may be smooth, but I'll deal with slightly looser tolerances for several thousand rounds of ammo price difference.
lvcsslacker 7 months ago
Isn't elevation usually set by adjusting the front sight? Is the HK front sight not adjustable?
KirShizzle 7 months ago
@KirShizzle
Nope.
On HK's diopter sights, both the Horizontal and Vertical adjustments are done with the rear unit. The front post sight is fixed.
madmaxd1 7 months ago
when you have a "group" of hits in a almost perfect horizontal line, thats NOT the gun.
theblackkknight1 7 months ago
@ 17:29 I seen the Krinkov AKS-74U! ! ! ! !
TMHonfire102 7 months ago
@TMHonfire102 Yup, that's my personal protection rifle. :)
Sturmgewehre 7 months ago
@Sturmgewehre Oh my, I need to see a vid of this in action soon!!! LOL
TMHonfire102 7 months ago
@Sturmgewehre personal protection you can rely on no matter what right? :D gotta love those AKs...the only way you can get them to STOP working is run it over with a tank...LOL
undeadsinner13 6 months ago
I've notice that the curveture on the P-Mags are different than your typical STANAG AR Magazines. The curveture on The P-mag starts more from the top, while the STANAG type curveture starts almost half way down from the top. This plus the MR's magwell design been parallel to the barrel, compared to your typical AR magwell with slight upward angle from the back of the magwell is why the P-Mags won't fit. I have a similar issue with my FN FS2000.
Another great thorough review, Thanks.
madmaxd1 7 months ago
My kinda rifle right there, might sell one of my ARs for it...
talisman9000 7 months ago
sig 516 is half the price n just as good
leftyaa12 7 months ago
You said it was a pleasure to shoot it, that it's smoother than other ARs. I suppose it has to do with the upper receiver construction, bolt and the lower receiver that doesn't rattle at all thanks to those pins. Does it feel the same way if you change HK's lower receiver with a standard AR lower? It's to take advantage in the disassembly, so you don't have to use that modified Allen wrench.
Joseph2010MK 7 months ago
The more i live in California the more my brain starts seeing "Evil Features"... i hate this state.
theme57 7 months ago
The Oly barrel is 1:9 twist.
enscribe 7 months ago
Do they sell just the upper? A LaRue lower and that upper would be a sweet system.
ironcityblue 7 months ago
what kind of gloves are those and where can you get them
arbiter569 7 months ago
@arbiter569 They are Mechanix gloves and they can be purchased at Amazon.com.
Sturmgewehre 7 months ago
@Sturmgewehre thanks
arbiter569 7 months ago
very good video, I think that like the bushmaster ACR prices will drop fairly quickly after a period of time. The quality of manufacturing, barrel thickness and HK reliability would possibly be what drives me to buy this rifle as I think you only need one good rifle however I would hope there would be a longer barreled version.
jubbles2343 7 months ago
3k rifle and requires a special takedown tool and a special tool to adjust the rear iron sight which isn't included.... Not to mention the probability of loosing both special tools makes this rifle a no brainer .... Buy a 5.56 bushmaster, cleaning kit and large amounts of ammo...an use the money saved and practice shooting once a month... Good review though...
keystoneprepper 7 months ago
2011..... and no rear sight tool for a proprietary sight? No P-mags? that butt-stock and grip, and 9 pounds before Light and AFG? 2500.00 to 3K? I'll go Daniel's or Knights armament any day over that set-up
Sorry HK, that's a big Negative!
MARINE1146 7 months ago
Did you do the Over The Beach Test to ensure its reliability? lol
TACTICALCHICKENSTRIP 7 months ago
For me atleast it would make more sense if you were going to buy this weapon is to only buy the upper if possible and a standard ar lower. No pmag problems and will probably save you a little chunk of change. Great vid I didnt think hk was ever going to comeout with a civilian version of there 416!
biggboysouth 7 months ago
I haven't shot this rifle, and probably never will because of the price tag, but did examine one at the NRA convention. I'll second StG's comments about the grip. It just feels weird compared to any other AR grip I've used. The buttstock felt okay and to be honest I didn't check-out the trapdoor, so can't comment on how easily it will open. Overall I came away with a feeling of "This is what $2.5k buys these days?"
wildcatactual 7 months ago
If you want to be objective when comparing weights you should compare MR with a monolithic rails -equipped M4, the difference wouldn't be so big ;)
EmperorPalpa 7 months ago
@EmperorPalpa
Actually, the weight difference would still be pretty big. The MR556A1 has the heaviest barrel I've seen on a M4 sized rifle. Take a look at the disassembly video. Plus, I compare it to a standard M4 because that's what I felt most people want to see it compared to.
Sturmgewehre 7 months ago 8
9+ lbs with with the HK mag is way too heavy for an intended carbine with a 16 inch barrel, and that's stock configuration! My 20 inch SS barreled Ar15 with with FF rails and a Leopold 2.5-8 MRT optic is just under 10 lbs. I'll take my 10 lbs souped up AR15 over the 9lbs stock carbine any day.
adobo777 7 months ago
lol I want to buy a mr556a1 upper with a plumcrazy lower. Make it cheap n ghetto! :P
SugarFreeTargets 7 months ago
Hi, a comparison between the SCAR and the 416 would be nice
THX
Raccoonraper 7 months ago
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Raccoonraper 7 months ago
the PMAGs thing is weird... I tried both 20 and 30 rounds PMAGs on a European MR223 and they did work...very tight fit but they locked inplace and hold the bolt open on the last round
Frens03 7 months ago
Two questions. Do P-mags work with the HK upper on Oly lower? With the HK upper on Oly lower, does the rifle hold its zero? Thanks.
scottcho 7 months ago
@scottcho The problem with the PMAG's is specific to the HK lower, so yes - the PMAGs work fine in the Oly lower. The zero doesn't shift when you swap lowers, or shouldn't, since the sights are mounted to the upper.
Sturmgewehre 7 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Osama Bin Laden was killed with an HK416.
supermaucat 7 months ago
Any person who carries a rifle with assembly pins will always carry a multi-tool. The disassembly tool is just a redundancy.
SuperRip7 7 months ago
$2500-$3000 for a MR556A1??!?!? I'll take it, In Canada we get the German made version MR223 which is $4500... Oh by the way, Canadian dollar value is higher than US right now...
kullwarrior 7 months ago
So would you rather buy a POF or this HK? I think HK rapes you just for the brand name, we all know that. I would rather go POF.
labartic 7 months ago
"P-Mags No go. E-Mags Thumbs up" Hahaha amazing.
Also a great review as always :)
OxYcOd0n3 7 months ago
I really wish you had done a comparison with it against the SCAR 16, that's it's one and only current competition (same function, caliber, and price range).
rupert93r 7 months ago
Outstanding review,I'm waiting to pick mine up at the end of this month.thanks for the info on the mags! I was getting ready to put a order in for pmags!
MrMilladog 7 months ago
Gotta love this bullcrap going on with youtube's view counter. You and some other great channels have been freezing at 301 views for hours today.
TheYankeeMarshal 7 months ago
Good review, and seems like a good rifle, but it's a no go for me. Also why wouldnt HK give you the rear sight tool? I have a Rock River Arms DI AR-15 and one of their new Piston guns, both are great, no problems at all, and not to mention, cheaper. Also all but 2 of my 11 mags are magpul PMAG
TheJadeStorm87 7 months ago
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TheJadeStorm87 7 months ago
Great review.
IndianaGeologist 7 months ago
obviously the atf took ur sight tool so u couldnt shot anything haha. not my first choice for rifles if i was going strictly for accuracy, id probably build a 24in bull barrel with a nice scope and target trigger etc looks like a really nice gun tho (how much $?)
mark16443 7 months ago
@mark16443 oops i saw it 2500 haha thats alot for something that dont take pmags, shoulda put a pmag when u mix matched the lowers
mark16443 7 months ago
Do you really thing this would be a better rifle than a KAC SR15E3?
Atreid3s 7 months ago
I think I'd rather have a $1500 rifle and spend the extra $1000 on optics and magazines.
Oh and I agree that pistol grip and buttstock have to be replaced the ones it came with look like junk.
P226nut 7 months ago
Good review.
neodecker 7 months ago
Great video! So happy to see a great review about this rifle!!! A+++!!!
BlackbeardArghh 7 months ago
On the P-Mag, it looks like it's the waffle pattern that's stopping it from locking. Hypothetically, if you were to sand down that part of the mag to be level with the rest of it, would it lock properly?
zma924 7 months ago
Great vid, it seems to me though, to be a very expensive AR-15 with some mostly minor modifications, i would like to see this rifle go up against a high-end AR-15 factory piston rifle, like my LWRC M6A2, and see what the difference would be, since they nearly the same price (the LWRC is about $500 cheaper). Would also like to see it up against the SCAR light.
DaytonaRoadster 7 months ago
It seems VERY german, precise to the point of being anal.
1775marsoc 7 months ago 6
@1775marsoc Yup, and I LOVE that about it. God bless zee Germans :D
rupert93r 7 months ago
Awesome!!
SamInBuda 7 months ago
@3:25 Damn.., howd you get that castle nut on backwards ???
MultiSr16 7 months ago
@MultiSr16 Good eye! It's not my rifle, it's a loaner for a class I'm taking next weekend. I got it from a gunshop that uses it as a demo rifle. I'm not sure if they did that or if Oly shipped it out that way.
Sturmgewehre 7 months ago
@Sturmgewehre i def kno its not yours there Sturmgewehre, great review., i just saw smoke so i thought i'd say somethin:) yea thx i do got a good eye !
MultiSr16 7 months ago
@Sturmgewehre good ol' Oly >>>Booooooo
MultiSr16 7 months ago
this video just made my night
pen123ske 7 months ago
Ze Germans make ze best toys, ja? Lol. Honestly I thought the best part of the vid was your krink laying against the tree.... ;)
SpencerAK74M 7 months ago
Great review as always man. I wouldn't pay the money for a "battle rifle" that I need a tool to adjust the sights and disassemble the rifle with. Plus, as you stated, that butt pad is a joke. I can easily see that thing getting lost while maneuvering in the woods. I hope the 416 is a bit better.
WallyMerc06 7 months ago
This is outstanding Work, I am a fan of the MP5, I prefer it to the M4-16
9 lbs is very heavy for a carbine, However the Muzzle FPS is impressive.
$2k is asking a bit much for this weapon, It's not a PS90 or a new weapons system. It's an M4.
Great Video, it allows the consumer to make a better decision on their weapon of choice.
americanbandwidth 7 months ago
Have you tested a Fulton Armory FAR-15? If so what is your opinion on them?
Killedkennyagain 7 months ago
a good alternative is the Sig516.
clap5 7 months ago
Very informative review - thanks again. I'm glad that the uppers are interchangeable.
tuberaider 7 months ago
I think this review was well done,I would have liked to see an accuracy test between the Olympic Arms AR and the HK AR. I think that for the price it would not have the negatives that you pointed out. There has been 60 years of AR production and HK version doesn't hit a homerun for twice the price.
mrtlsimon 7 months ago
no rear sight tool, heavy, and won't take pmags?! and too expensive. great review.
orcaluv 7 months ago
holyshit, u got a olympic arms?
Timb0NZ 7 months ago
You should try out the sig 516, $1,300 and very well built.
YourMilageMayVary 7 months ago
Too bad HK increased the price by 400 bucks not even 6 months after its limited release. For some reason I really want this rifle still though and I'll have to sell my M6A3 i don't want 2 piston AR's. The reason I would think of doing that is because I really do prefer DI over any piston AR rifle mainly due to the fact its not standardized yet. Another reason is while the piston design is a solution to a none existent problem it creates other problems. Good review!!
Sturmgewehre SR-15 review?
dhena81 7 months ago
Now all you need to do is a sand, over the beach, and mud tests for the colt, hk, scar and acr. Then you'll see which rifle is really the best.
ajatella 7 months ago 15
@ajatella Which one is the best?
Humberto4790 7 months ago
Great job. I'm curious why anyone would want to get the lower given the weird pistol grip/stock, need for tool to take down the pins, and inability to use pmags (and presumably the new surefire 60 round mag). Germans might have over-engineered it a bit. The M1/M14 safety is muck like a regular AR safety - you can't place it on safe when it's hammer down - I guess it hasn't been a priority for the US military these past years :)
DagaYute 7 months ago