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  • All the major academic sources agree that Ibn Sina was a Persian.

    Ibn Sina was born in Balkh and died in Hamedan. Both Balkh and Hamedan are Persian cities.

    Ibn Sina was a citizen of the Samanid Persian empire . There was no such thing called "Afghanistan" back then. Afghanistan was created by the Hottaki and Durani dynasties ,many centuries later.

  • This person is a muslim human .

  • and you're awesome for this educational and most pleasent commentary

  • dear irani bros please accept the fact his real name is ABU ALI SINA-E BALKHI he was born in BALKH AFGHANISTAN!!! so he was not an irani he is was and always be an AFGHANI, I strongly recommend you to read the history, one more thing the history of AFGHANISTAN is much much much older than iran, britains made iran and irani. not AFGHAN and AFGHANISTA!!!!!!! I don't know why the most of iranian they think that they can take our honors like ABU ALI SINA-E BALKHI or SAEED JAMALUDIN AFGHAN and....

  • dear iranian bros please eccept the fact his real name is ABU ALI SINA-E BALKHI! he was born in BALKH AFGHANISTN! so he is not an irani, he was is and always be an AFGHANI!!! I strongly recommend you to read the history, one more thing the history of AFGHANISTAN is much much much older than iran, britains made iran and irani, again please read the history, I don't why the most of iranian take our honor like ABU ALI SINA-E BALKHI OR SAEED JAMALUDIN AFGHAN and......

  • Ibn Sinas Vater war ein aus Balch, Chorasan/Afghanistan stammender ismailitischer Steuereintreiber, der sich in Afschana bei Buchara im persischen Samanidenreich, heute Usbekistan, niederließ und dort Ibn Sinas Mutter Setara heiratete. Ibn Sina und ein Bruder wurden in Afschana geboren, anschließend zog die Familie nach Buchara.

  • Please read both of my comments down and tell me what should I call myself ? do you think it was my choise to call myself afghan ? i would love to call myself khurassani but why ? does khurassan exist ? did your pehlavi grand fathers help us afghan persians to hold fight against Pashtuns ? our official farsi language was changed to Dari coz pashtuns used to hate the word farsi, today you are claiming that history of my city is iranian ? the answer is no my friend

  • the answer is also that we persians from balkh today recognize ourselves afghan as we know that iranians did forget us for more then 300 years , you were more busy to develop your own reputation instead of rebuilding our ancient great kingdoms which our grand fathers mostly did, I am personally from Balkh and there is no persian city in the world which will break the record of wellknown persians we had , we are their grand childrens and we persians are not death in Balkh or we did not disappear

  • i also think he is an afghan

  • he is pure afghan and stop fighting

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  • @MegaSHamed

    well said, his father was from Balkh, in present-day Afghanistan and his mother from Bukhara, in present-day Uzbekistan.[19] His father, Abdullah, was a respected Ismaili[20] scholar from Balkh, an important town of the Samanid Empire, in what is today Balkh Province, Afghanistan. the people of balkh are called tajiks! arent they? and he was tajik ethnic just as everyone call himself after their ethnic group they belong to ! we should not we? EXACTLY TAJIK FROM BALKH/BACTRIA

  • dudes just search Balkh you will find where he belongs :DDDDDDD you will find it in my hearttttttttttt Afg <333333333333333333333

  • @MegaSHamed please bear in mind that usbakestan at the time was belong to the great persian impure.

  • @yadekhoban

    1 - Uzbekistan or Ozbekistan never belonged to persian empire :)

    2 - When avicenne was born in balkh city , bak in a days country of uzbeks was Bukhara and their king was an uzbek aswell, but in Bukhara province today which smaller comparing to 9th century is a city where mostly tadjiks live, and those tadjiks are mostly from tadjikistan side originally.

    3 - My question is how it could come into your head that uzbekistan was a part of persian empire ? are you sick ?

  • @MegaSHamed There was no such thing as "Uzbekistan" or "Afghanistan", or any Central Asian nation today. To claim Avicenna is Uzbek is to say Charlemagne is Belgium because he was born in modern day Belgium.

    Many Central Asian states, including most of Uzbekistan and west and north Afghanistan constituted Greater Khorasan, which was always politically and culturally a part of (Greater) Iran. Avicenna's mother tongue was Persian, therefore he is important to all Persian-speaking nations.

  • @Marduniya

    1 - There was no such Iran before 1935 :) but uzbekistan exist for more then 300 years, and afghanistan also exist for more then 300 years , what did not exist more then 100 years is Iran, so who you causing with my friend about history ?

    2 - Avicenne was originally Tadjik , from tadjik father and uzbek mother and uzbek and tadjik did exist before that :) he is important for iran as much he is important for uzbeks and afghans people to which he is bloody related more then iran

  • @Marduniya there was such things as uzbekistan and afghanistan longer then Iran, what did not exist longer then 100 years as my friend told u was in fact Iran :) , also prophet of persian religion was born in Balkh known as Zardahst Balkhi , first aryan king Jamshed was born in Balkh who used to be called Yama Balkhi and changed name to Jamshed when he got in persian areas :) sorry dude but we afghan persians dont call ourselves iranian, u sound like a joke for us

  • @AFGHANZCLIP What a ludicrous comment. Please show me how Afghanistan, created as an artificial nation in the 19th century by the British and Russians as a buffer zone, was indeed present in the medieval ages.

    Iran, as a nation state, has existed since the Sassanid era (1800 years ago). As a cultural entity, it has existed for 2500 years. In fact, the Sassanids called their empire "Iranshahr", which in New Persian is simply "Iran".

  • @Marduniya

    Also I would like to add that people from Mashad are typically afghans, they have 100 years of history with iranians :) but Mashad was 200 years in afghanistan map , my iranian friends when you really suck even in your own history just fucking stay behind ur screens silent

  • @AFGHANZCLIP It seems you are upset. Good, I pray you choke on your anger.

    You can continue on with this falsified history of the mighty Afghan world to quell your inferiority complex, but in reality we know that Afghanistan has been nothing throughout all her 200 years of history.

  • @Marduniya

    Avicenna´s father was from Balkh, in present-day Afghanistan and his mother from Bukhara, in present-day Uzbekistan.[19] His father, Abdullah, was a respected Ismaili[20] scholar from Balkh, an important town of the Samanid Empire, in what is today Balkh Province, Afghanistan.

    just say that he had his roots from Balkh/Bactria/Bakhtar Zameen and this is enough you dont even need to mention afghanistan ;) then people came nearer to the fact where he really came from :)

  • @Marduniya

    Balkh (Persian / Pashto: بلخ - Balḫ, Old Persian; Ancient Greek: Baktra or Zariaspa), was an ancient city and centre of Zoroastrianism in what is now northern Afghanistan !!

    name of countires change but not geography and blood :)

  • @Marduniya

    You said England ? in 19 th century created afghanistan ? don't forget to add when England gave you Mashad ? because before 1900 Mashad was in Afghanistan map , do you remember when Iran was little country called Arya ? :) Yes when England lost the third war against afghans they took Mashad gave for Arya after what your king named Arya to Iran , England gave opportunity for iranians to have a country :) read history books of ur imams iranian jackass

  • @AFGHANZCLIP I do not know whether to laugh or cry at your stupidity.

    England did not give an inch of land to Iran; Mashhad was reconquered by Nader Shah and kept under Iranian control to modern day. It was Britain who took away Herat from Iran and gave it to the fake state of Afghanistan in 1857 in the Treaty of Paris. We also lost the south-western portion of Afghanistan in the MacMahon Arbitration of 1905.

    You are beyond idiocy.

  • @Marduniya

    1 - Iranians like using words to himuliate people instead of explaining themselves properly this is one of the main stupidity of the entire iranian nation :D

    2 - Since when treaty of Paris was involved in persian or afghan business ?

    3 - When Iran did not exist afghanistan was wider ? you confirmed what I was trying to explain :) you also confirmed That Mashad was in afghanistan for more then 200 years, next time instead of using the word IDIOT think to watch urself at mirror

  • @AFGHANZCLIP I see English is not your first language; I will not hold that against you.

  • @Marduniya

    1 - Topic was not my english and even if it will I would tell you that I am not an iranian immigrant from USA to have great english which probably always have that ugly iranian accent

    2 - Next time try something better to cover this topic and if you think to reply don't forget to tell us what the hell MARDUNIYA means ? what is that suposed to mean in English ? ) please bother me for something better

  • @AFGHANZCLIP No you.

  • @AFGHANZCLIP On top of this, there are countless examples of medieval poets, such as Rudaki and Nizami, calling their land "Iran" or "Iranzamin". Rudaki himself was born in modern day Tajikistan, yet he refers to a Saffarid prince as the "pride of Iran" (mafkar-e Iran).

    What is a joke is an Afghan trying to claim the history of other nations like a parasite. What is an even bigger joke is an "Afghan" Persian who calls himself Afghan, which literally means Pashtun.

  • @Marduniya

    1 - Afghan means Pashtun ? :) thank you for your reply and I understand why iranians hate when we call avicenne afghan :) the answer is no my friend I never meant that avicenne was Pashtun :) and those afghans which claim avicenne is afghan are not pashtuns those afghans are us persians which are in afghanistan teritory for 300 years now

    2 - By Iran rodaki meant land of aryans, my question is why Iran did not help us persians to rebuild khurassan if you were so proud being aryans?

  • @AFGHANZCLIP Yes, "Afghan" means Pashtun. Afghan identity goes back to the Hotaki and Durrani Pashtun dynasties; the Pashtuns have persecuted the Persians of Afghanistan for centuries, and now you call yourself Afghan. What a shame.

    Don't twist Rudaki's words. They are precise and clear. Afghanistan is an artificial country no more than a few centuries old; Avicenna was not "Afghan", because there was no such thing as Afghanistan, only Iran.

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  • why do you speak like a white wannabe nigger??

  • he wasnt iranian or afghani. he was from khorasan, the land of tayiks. iran was created by the pahlavi shas whil afghansitan was created in 1747. "afghan" mean "pashtun" and ibn sina was tayik.

    im herati, and i think that the term "afghanistan" should be changed.

  • @corderitodedios69 Tajiks are an ethnic group withing the Iranian one...

  • every body moss have respekt for AFGHANISTAN = PERSIAN becouse all de intelegent people is and was from Afg=Persian

    how is the best MATIMATIKAR ofcours one afghan

    he´s name is SEDIQ AFGHAN HE LIVE NOW IN AFGHANISTAN

    how WAS THE BEST PHILASO

    OFCOURE ONE AFGHAN he´s name sina balkhi, MAOULANA BALKHI;AND MONEE OTHERS........................­........ and and and

    today in all of the world we use this afghan=persian people books

  • every1 stop fighting over the nationality of ppl ... ive an important question...

    how can i make tajikistani rice ...? gimme some tips... any1??

  • kakhasan1 ur right he is tajik

  • @abduqahhorM every body moss have respekt for AFGHANISTAN = PERSIAN becouse all de intelegent people is and was from Afg=Persian

    how is the best MATIMATIKAR ofcours one afghan

    he´s name is SEDIQ AFGHAN HE LIVE NOW IN AFGHANISTAN

    how WAS THE BEST PHILASO

    OFCOURE ONE AFGHAN he´s name sina balkhi, MAOULANA BALKHI;AND MONEE OTHERS........................­........ and and and

    today in all of the world we use this afghan=persian people books

  • ibn sina is a icon and a legend for iranian history.

    he is a true iranian .

    long live persia

    zende bad iran

  • omg fighting over his nationality? Isn't it enough that he was a Muslim and that's a pride for all Muslims around the world?

  • @Gerashi20No he should be remembered As a PERSIAN muslim

  • @Gerashi20 no because religion is a personal choice, it doesn't matter what his religion was.. he was an AFGHAN [Tajik] from BALKH, in Afghanistan.

  • @Gerashi20 That's what I've tried to tell them all, no one understands, they just keep saying he's Iranian, no he's Afghani, no he's Paki, no he's Arab, SCREW THAT, he's just Muslim, Muslim was a nationality back then by the way...

  • @Gerashi20 buali sina was not a muslim at all u need to go and study his works,a scientist never can be a religous guy specially a muslim

  • @nahasc91 science is part of Islam my friend.

  • @Gerashi20 Europeans are all christians , but will u find this normal if german say that Victor Hugo is german ? i think french will not agree , nationality does matter, it proves the history , civilization and culture of that people and of course educational level back in a days, he was born in balkh which is in actual afghanistan and mother from uzbekistan, I am just telling things I saw in ancient history books, i think Iranians are just jalouse personally me I dont really care :)

  • @MegaSHamed bro I'm Iranian myself, and it is enough for me that he is a Muslim.

  • even today Bukhara is not an ozbek city but still a tajik/persian majority town . USSR borders can NOT change one's identity .

    and also he was not Afghan because Afghan means Pashtun . he was 100% tajik/persian not pashtun or uzbek

  • @parandehdarya what ?? do you say afghans are all people who are from afghaistan I am tadjik which mixed with arab and pashtuns but the most of of my family are tadjiks are tadjiks we all are afghans mevlana ib sina avicena this was from afghanistan they was tadjik afghans afghanistan and iran was one countryyy

  • @parandehdarya he was from khorosan. Khalas.

  • He was an Iranian like many many other Iranian mathematicians and scientists who are called Islamic or Arabic only because they lived within the Islamic world and / or have written their books in Arabic!!!

  • By calling Avicenna an Uzbak, you show how stupid you are!! When he was born/living in central Asia, the cities of Bokhara and Samarghand were ceners of Persian civilization and culture in the region. There were no Uzbaks living there and no Uzbakistan existed there on that time!! He has written most of his books in Arabic which was used widly by scientists, exactly like the English language in our time, but he WASN'T an Arab!!

  • We balkhi people used to be desendants of samanide dynasty and we have no relation with persians. Our native language was Dari even back in a days , and even talking about persian , that persian language that HAfiz used to speak doesnt existe no more , it only existe in afghanistan in Herat city those guys are real persians and wat I mean that u even dont have real persians in iran. So if u respect Avicenne Balkhi try to undrestand and respect his backgrounds.

  • What is funny You pronounce Ibn Sina Balki ? but it is not how u pronounce it is Balkhi u show map of afghanistan by urself )) read more books , this afghan uzbek philosopher was awsome , actually I am Hamed Balkhi as well, I was born in Balkh as well and I am tajik a pure tajik and no persian please , becous we used to teach persians how not to use arabic words in their language and why their language is poor coz they even don have proper grammer. They use french grammer and french words.

  • Great

  • Avicenna= 100 percent afghan even though everybody call him a persian and i dont blame them this guy defined Health and medicine

  • @5150AFGHAN bullshit

  • Awesome.

  • Another Dude named Mirzo Ulugbek (1400 AD) modeled the globe in his palace in Samarkand. He was a king.

    He claimed: "there is a land on the other side of the earth". Literally he preceded Columbus by half a century. Awesome.

    There is a lot more from islamic scholars of the past.

    Al-Samawal (1150 AD) found the Golden ratio.

    All these and many other discoveries were the result of the challenged in the Holy Quran. The only and true way of life.

  • Thanks for this.

  • Nice!

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