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  • The evo driver was terrible. Stock evo put around 230ish to the wheels. Stock Srt4 have been known to do the same. Stage 1 would put the neon at a decent advantage but the race would have been much closer. Once again, just a guy that can't drive his evo.

  • how do you know what satge the srt 4 is?? how can you make them to stage 3?

  • hahah look at the evos rpm at 1:20 so fake not even moving

  • How are you in an Evo getting smoked by a neon???

  • @MrBoostedyota73 The usual drivetrain loss for most AWD vehicles is about ~20%, the Evo only loses about 10% tuned of course.

  • @MrBoostedyota73 That would put it roughly at the same whp as the evo. Meaning the SRT-4 shouldn't have won by...what was that like 6 car lengths and still going? The stock evo thru drivetrain loss puts it at roughly 250 to the wheel. I know this for a fact, on my second evo, but tuned and dyno'd. So Mopars stage 1 puts it at roughly 250 as well. Both going WOT, going by those numbers, the evo should've lost by only a car length or so due to power to weight ratio, but not as much as he did.

  • SRT win.

  • Wow y would u film urself racing if u can't even drive, that evo should've stomped that srt especially from a dig, I'm embarassed for that guy, word of advice... take some driving lessons, learn to shift and rerace this guy so u can redeem urself

  • Also read on page two of the comments, xamen28 even says his 03 is stage one, on mopar . com that is 240hp, stock evo is 271hp/273tq. So tell me again why you have to lie about your stage 1? that is most definitely atleast stage 2. kk thx.

  • @Nutz4Tutz this is where you sound silly... your talking about crank numbers and thats fine, but NSRT4s put down advertised crank numbers to the wheels. Evo 8s dont. your looking at 205-215whp because of the drivetrain loss. honestly, stock srt turbos put down crazy amounts of torque and we all know, torque wins races, not hp.

  • @typemgtst 215 on paper, I know for a fact on my first evo, pure stock and factory tune on a street dyno it dyno'd at around 250. With intake/exhaust/tune/mild272's/­walboro it jumped up to 340/330 to the wheels using 3rd gear pulls.

    The only reason this guy won as much as he did is because as I stated Evo had a horrible driver and the skittle had more mods than mentioned.

  • Lmao Evo driver shifting at what? 3500-4000 Rpms? Tell that moron to NEVER borrow a car again, because that is obviously not his evo. Having owned both of those cars, current DD is 03 evo 8, I know first hand that it takes roughly a stage 2 to beat a near stock evo with equal driving mods.

  • man that guy embarresed the evo.. wtf learn to drive before you even look at the evo...

  • lol either the evo driver was drunk and couldnt drive, or this is a fake video LOL

  • @2Nyce4dagame he was a bad driver, not a fake video lol.....but still he couldnt catch up!

  • too much hate here....car was def stage 1 power levels....didnt even burn tires in 2nd....so alll you "its not a stage 1" need to stfu and not talk about thing you have no idea about! it just make you look stupid! as for the evo.... its def wooopable... just like gt mustangs all talk and no go.....srt 4 the win!!! woot

  • @ptgtdcr I will gladly, GLADLY, show you the evo is way more than "all talk and no go".

  • Srt 4 all the way baby.why Pay all that extra money on a evo when you can get a srt 4 and be faster with cheap mods

  • @jfjhtfghgfhgf well lets see, brembo brakes, recaro seats, o awd and did i say awd, yea so when I get over 400hp in my evo I dont have to do 80 mph rolls just to get traction. You get the point the evo is a far superior car if you cant afford one then yes the srt can be a fun car.

  • 2.4 turbo <33 i just have a 2.4 non turbo in my pt my the main bearings went so crank up rebuild then maybe a turbo next summer

  • stock evo, was def only stage one i had just put it all on injectors and ecu

  • A stage one doing that to an Evo? i dont think so. try again!

  • @germancatala It happens alot more often than you'd like to believe man.

  • I'd still take that sexy Evo before the Neon any day baby.

  • my stage one is an 03, so it has, according to chrysler, 215 horsepower. look up mopar. com and stage one takes you to 240... so they say. lol

  • 2 awesome cars. Both have their strengths.

  • The guys in the SRT 4 sounded like dicks. But good race anyways.

  • arent all srt4 owners faggots??..lol

  • thats wat happens to an evo....

  • thats about right

  • buy a vishnu stage1 engine upgrade and a light tune...that evo will easily keep up or pass...

  • I always shake my head when I see this. 400 dollar stage 1 kit and this is what you get LOL. Good race regardless. I will always respect the evo tho, Its nearly at the top of the food chain in the tuner world.

  • I believe it. My stage 1 does the same thing to my buddy's evo X. It's just great that I saved $31,000 and I'm faster. Lol

  • thats why i love these cars, they are cheap fro what u get and FAST, i love my stage 2, it eats evo's ALL day long, but dang, i thought the evo would have it, stage 1 only adds like 15-20 hp i was told

  • this is not a stock stage 1 srt4 lol

  • yeah it was, stage 1, nothing else

  • @USAoMOBB a stage one srt4 should beat a STOCK evo.

    stock for stock the evo will win.

  • rape? lol

  • listen asswhole ur just mad because you have a piece of shit car so before getting whatever dick you have caught in you zipper and catching a attitude ur gonna get critasism and JOKES on you tube its you tube dick head so go suck a weaner

  • I see PMS has hit you nice this month....Since the car was sold awhile ago, i dont own it anymore. So that part of your comment is false. Also i have yet to get my dick caught in my zipper, so once again About Face and march your little butt out my video! :)

  • haha i bet your rx7 is under 400hp

  • no offense i like srt4's and evo's but my rx7 could kill em both while driving backwards

  • Well arent you special, considering that this video is from 2003 when both these cars first came onto the market. So have a blast driving around town backwards it must be a big part of your life, like standing @ attention.

  • beridinneon..the evo8 n srt4 turbo's are similar but not the same, srt4 being an mitsubishi TD04 15g, and evo8 TD05 16g, similar but not the same, and a stage1 for an 03 srt just makes it about the same as a stock 04,05 srt

  • flatblackfury91 stock evo8's are not 278whp, if so their makin over 300crank, i hate when ppl read somethin n put their own spin on it, but if they were 2 use some common sense they would realize dat wut dey just said really makes NO SENSE

  • stock evos only run mid to high 13's in the 1/4 mile people..i have witnessed a stage 1 srt4 run a low 13

  • you guys need to learn your cars... SRT-4 and the Evo 8 have the same turbos, yes the same turbos, the SRT-4 has the Evo 8's turbo under the hood. Dodge bought them and used them they can put out the same PSI.... The Evo 8 will get better launch but the SRT-4 will caught it, and since the SRT-4 was stage one it has alittle bigger injectors and a low upgraded ecu (which really isn't stage 1 but people say it is). That will Help the launch and caught up which is why he beat him.

  • lmao...u gota learn before u speak...the srt4 turbo is a tdo4 15g mitsubishi turbo..... the evo 8 turbo is a 16g mitsubishi turbo that can boost 30 psi safely....i say it cuz i own both of the cars before...check out my vids..

  • Yup, Ive got both cars right now

  • omg dat littel faget evo needs a driver mod seriously that niga look like he belongs in a geek squad he dun even kno how to launch da damn thang but nice srt sucks they brake down wen u push em a littel

  • thats not true at all. With the wrong mods theyll break down with the right mods they will last quite a long time. A turbo car is a turbo car and with a forced induction car or any car maintenance is a must. Take care of the car and it will take care of you thats all.

  • so you are tellin me awd dynos give flywheel hp? damn thats a first. i am sitting here reading the damn article so get off my nuts and go slap your mother for giving birth to a pure retard

  • MOPAR FOREVER!!!!! lol

  • the srt4 ant stock against a evo.....but if it was the evo atlease beat it.......for my ? tho.....even tho the evo driver suck at the launch it could atlease catch up to the srt4 and bet it.....but it couldn't....that prove that the srt-4 wasn't stock

  • Where the hell does it say the srt 4 was stock? Since i own it and know what was done to it, it had stage 1, which is bigger injectors and different ecu....which it says in the video comments!!

  • Hey i thought is was upgraded injectors, for the 2003 only, and an upgraded pcm???

  • 04 + didnt get the injectors just the pcm, 2003 got both

  • actually vdubforlife sport compact car done a power pages on a stock evo and it put down 274 ALL wheel hp. im lookin at it right now. and you have a 261 hp NEON. WAY TO GO DILDO.

  • flatblackfury91 are u retarded?a stock evo will dyno around 233whp not 278!jackass. srt-4 with intake exhaust n mbc will dyno around 260whp cuz i own one n have had it on a mustang dyno n i laid 261 to the wheels

  • ok.look it does not matter the car.all depends how much money you guys put on your car..learn that. if you want to compare stock vs stock cars. yeah evo wins. but after that depends on mods and money.!!lol...srt-4 stage 2 and 3 it has 3 different lunch control too.

  • no way would an evo actually trying get toted by a fuckin neon. evos stock dyno at 278ish and stage one

    NEONS MAYBE 240. quit callin it an srt4. its still a neon

  • And an Evo is just a Lancer, like An SRT-4 is a Neon...

    But when you lose, you dont say you lost to

    a neon.. u say SRT-4 don't ya...

  • Completly agree i hate the people who are like O its a gay neon.....till they loose....then they make some rice excuse on y they lost lol

  • finally! lol in my Z, I pull pretty even with em.. depends on the driver, but seriously, i think the SRT needs just a little respect...

  • your dumb.....evo dynos 278....to the fly wheel.....wich is like 230 ish to the wheels retard the srt 4 dynos around 240 to the wheels damn learn ur shit before typing.

  • dis video is retardid..

  • lmao evo is silly fast...theres one of two problems (if not both) with this video

    1. srt-4 has more that stage one mods

    2. this video was staged to make srt 4 look better than it really is.

  • plz SHUT UP

  • There is no problem, AWD system tends to loose about 20% or more of their power thru the drivetrain, they gave a good launch but from the roll they usually tend to give up lots of HP.

  • learn to shift, then race...

  • Haha, totally ass-whupped, just imagine if skittle Neons had AWD and a 6spd manual tranny... STI's and EVo's woudl be handing their asses.

  • i dont think the evo driver knows that there is a 2-step on the car...or how to use it.

    evo cant launch

  • From the looks of this video, it seems like it had nothing to do with bad driving.....this particular SRT4 is just flat out faster than this particular EVO. PERIOD.

  • neon is faster because its got upgrades on it

  • its a srt4 stronger than evo?

    would like to kmnw

  • goddamn.....good luck wit the clutch on the evo....put a damn 2step or something

  • EVERY single video i've seen on this "topic" has the worst drivers in the seat of the Evo. Maybe I'll find out for myself in a couple weeks when I grab either a X or STi but honestly stop posting these videos on YouTube. You are embarrassing yourselves. Go sell the car and ask mommy and daddy for a ferrari or something since you obviously need to prove something.

  • hater.

  • that cant just be a stage 1 I raced a srt-4 stage 1 with my stock evo and got him on the launch and put 2 cars on him, evo driver just sucks or thats not a stage 1, crappy neons cant compare tha all mighty EVO.

  • My car was for sure only stage 1...evo kid just couldnt drive well.... =D

  • tha all mighty evo? you're driving a lancer with a wing the size of a sky scraper.

  • shift light :D

  • i dont know man he reved that shit up and diped the clutch like a mother fu...er, and the srt4 still hung ther by half a car, thats a fast ass srt4

  • bad starts @ the EVO he need driver mods ;)), no thats realy good footage! not bad for a stg one!!

  • I have a hard time believing it was a stage one.

  • ohh sorry, mopar bov pos!! lol....it was only stage 1, im 100% sure

  • ladies and gentlemen the worst evo driver ever

  • that guy in the evo needs to go hang himself.

  • evo driver suck... and srt-4 too... lol

  • That SRT wasn't JUST S1 was he? He was pulling WAY too hard to be just S1

  • yes i was just stage 1 during this race

  • then u cant call that a race with the evo driver driving like that...

  • Stage 1 or not. Evo driver sucked...

  • Good video man..sweet race

  • Wow that kid in the EVO must suck some serious cock. I don't understand how he lost... Asshat needs to learn how to build up his boost.

  • Just for everyone, the stage one mod in the SRT-4 doesn't do much in an 03 it makes it comparable to a 04-05. 04-05 SRT-4 also have LSD so they could launch better yet.

  • well i brought this srt4 when they first came out, my best time stock in the 03 was 14.3 @ 96

    after adding just stage one my very first pass was 13.8 @ 102....so i have to disagree

  • that sounds right.. also 13.8 is about what a stock 04-05 runs in the 1/4. 03's are great for the money, but once you at stage 1 there are equal to the 04-05's. Nice vid tho man! where you WOT shifting or no?

  • not against him, ya i agree back in 2003 when i brought the car it was a great price for what you got. Only thing is i wish they had added the LSD in 03. Still have the car, its been just hanging out for awhile, about to get it back up and running again, i ended up buying a RSX type s as a daily driver since i always wanted to build the SRT4 but i needed a car to get me to work.

  • ya the kid with the evo didnt launch great, but not so bad, got out on me a little.... :)

  • good start @ the srt!!

  • No slip differential either in the 03 srt4.

  • fwd? awd or rwd? for the srt-4

  • fwd but if you know how to launch at the right rpm and have good springs, tires, and etc... you can launch good.

  • (8) another one bite the dust !!! (8) hahaa.. EVO 08 was humillated here lol xD

  • the evo was stock...

  • wat? are those really that fast?

  • no....

  • evo got killed there.

  • Wow dude learn to launch, not hard at all unless your a complete noob.

  • Aye, that was a rough launch.

  • best way to launch is 4,500 to 5k, and slip it really quick, but dont dump it.. u get nasty wheel spin for a sec, but u dont get shockload, so no broken gears, differentials, or axles.. i bet a evo 9 with TBE by 3 cars last night from a dig.. cuz he couldnt get his launching right, we tried 2 times and same result.. from a 20, i still got him by my tail lights I have a 02 wrx with a 04engine,intake, TBE, uppipe, 15psi no tune..

  • that evo guy sucked at launching.. u cant just drop the clutch.. u bog down like crazy.. oh yea u get the lil take off and then BAM under 3k rpm=lag and ur fucked.. LAUNCHING AWD is hard..u have to do it right.. and when u do..even gay ass srt4s with slicks cant out launch u.. how do i know.. cuz i went to the track and kept outlaunching everything.. oh yea.. that srt destroyed me on top end.. but he was running race fuel and 21psi with a side dump exhaust

  • You cant go wrong either way both cars are great i went wit a evo and yeah ive gotten beaten by srt's and i have beaten SRT's there both great cars

  • true the srt4 are cheapto mod, but im stuck in the middle between getting either a srt4 ora evo8, which is better??, ive seen videos where they go eitherway.

  • don't buy the SRT-4 cause it will then be harder to modify it since it's front wheel drive and btw, don't forget that the Evo in this video was slower because the SRT-4 has mods, if it wouldn't have them, the Evo would have smoked it since it's 4 wheel drive and has launch control and more hp than the SRT-4 and people that know what they are doing buy Evos so it's your choice but i'd go for an Evo and Evo's don't cost $40,000, the MR edition costs $36,000, RS costs 30,000 the IX costs 32,000

  • you can also by a srt4 for $16000-$18000 put in a stage 3 for $3000 and watch ur $21000 car smoke a decently modded EVO/STI ($35,000++)

  • evo awd owns fwd

  • EVOs are quick as hell 4 $40,000 but I had to go with the SRT-4. You rarely see one and there are so many options for aftermarket parts that I had to go with it.

  • i like srt-4's better but ill say this for you evo guys...srt-4's use mitsubishi turbos.its true look it up

  • mae sure u can drive your car before u race it

  • dude you suck at launching in so many diferent levels hahahahahahahahaha

    you give evos a bad rep

  • I don't know about the 4 car length you put on that srt4. You might have took him out of the hole but he took you in the long run.

    lmao

  • The Evo owner did not know how to launch the car that is for sure for he would have spank that srt4. srt4 are fast from a roll but not from a stop. I know I ran a stage 2 agianst my evo and smoke and had 4 cars before he could shift into 2nd gear.

  • sorry evo owner but you can't launch, the srt was launching right with you , wtf

  • that evo is stock

  • to everyone who complains about the srt's. the turbos on these cars spoil the second you hit the gas and stay at full boost until around 5500. other turbo cars usually dont start to spoil until somewhere around about 3500 to 4500 depending on the car. believe me if anything was upgraded you would here a difference in the exhaust. besides they are the fastest 4-cylinder in the world under 20000! and the second fastest production car made by dodge!

  • yo dude.. i have a 04 wrx.. and i can take off faster than that.. and wrx non sti trannys are weaker.. i already blew 2nd once.. u dont have to dump that shit so high.. just go for a 4500 tops.. and slip the clutch.. u'll take off much faster.. and wont bog down like that..plus..the clutch is cheaper, my wrx goes from 4500 to 7 like a bullet.. and my friend with his srt4 running 19psi.. dont see me till the end of my 3rd gear.. and im only at 16psi with a TBE, catless uppipe

  • cause the srt4 is front wheel drive......mkay

  • ive got two words for u

    SUBARU SUCKS!!!!!!!

  • that dude's clutch in the evo is gonna explode if he keeps dropin the it at 6grand

  • all these videos are such bullshit. there something that people are doing to these srt-4's and arent saying anything. evos do 13.4 stock on the quarter. srt-4's do 14.2

  • wrx wannabees that dont even compare to wrxs

  • and ablout the caliber... that bitch is guna b bad... AWD 300HP/300tq heard it real light too.

  • ight well, i had an SRT-4, and now i got an evo. love both cars. u cant really compare the 2.of course the SRT is guna pull harder cuz it has all its power being distributed to 2 wheels while the evo has to split it between 4. but a stage 1 SRT should b pullin on an evo THAT BAD. if anything he should start pulling near the end of the SRT's 3rd gear cuz the evo has a weak 4th and 5th and the MR's have even weaker 4th 5th and 6th.

  • haha cjaey that's funny..no we're just smart because we spend half as much as u stupid fucks buying awd thinkin it's soooo much faster

  • and u have a honda right?? ahah..

  • Srt-4's are fast; they look like a car I would buy for my daughter, but they are fast. Evo's look soo much cooler and thats not even my opinion it is a fact. I know its a race and not a beauty contest but c'mon why did Dodge have to put that engine in a neon, even with hood scoop it still looks "cute"

  • SRT owners are funny... Theyre just poser wrx's

  • first thing, that kid in the evo is a douchebag and second thing srt-4's are ugly, but yes quick.

  • Srt-4 will take stock evos all day...But ya the kid in the evo cant launch , hes dropping the clutch to fast.

  • haha all wheel is a waste of time and money and the srt-4 is the best thing ever made too bad they had to discontinue them now its an gay caliber...

  • Yeah, it really sucks that they discontinued it--I was hoping to buy it for my first car--I could still buy an older model in a few years. When did they stop making them anyway?

    Yeah, I also agree with you about the caliber.

  • and another thing, SRT-4's have a Torque advantage for all u idiots that wonder why ur gettin smoked, SRT-4s have more torque than power thats why SRT-4s can pull at low revs better than any other car can....so again, suck on that u evo dushbags

  • ofcourse itll have more torque you idiot....it has a bigger litter......but stock on stock..evo takes it man and there aint nothin to it.....

  • all of u are idiots, i beet an evo wit a fully loaded car, he had an exhaust, i have a Cold air intake, stage 1 and mopar BOV, and i was right on his ass when we were racing in traffic....so suck on that u evo dushbags

  • learn to drive

  • kid in the evo cant shift for shit

  • 1. that kid sucks at driving. his mom prolly paid for his evo.

    2. srt-4s kick ass. end of story.

  • fuckin DITTO! (but i dont like SRT's)

  • I dont know why its so hard to believe, a stock evo sucks. just like a stock turbo neon sucks. I raced an evo running 20psi in my srt-4 running 18psi both of us with exhaust. He beat me by a full car length. I want to race him with the same ammount of boost to see the result. But I think the stock turbo on an evo is bigger than a stock srt-4 turbo so, I can pretty much say that the evo will win.

  • yeah stock evos will peak at 18 and drop to 14 psi arounf 4500 rpms get a $50 MBC and race again different ending

  • if this is an 03-04 stock boost is 11psi its not 18-19 stock until 05-06

  • i would also like to add having owned both cars the evo in stock form sucks fat dick once you hit 3rd gear cause the 03-04 hotside is too small for any topend its all 1st and 2nd gear after that it runs out of breath and drops boost. Srt-4 will dominate any rolls if it has any decent power even stock there pretty stout

  • something went wrong all I need to say rematch

  • stage 1 is just a comp. 10-15hp? 400+ pound curb weight difference. this race neon won quit bitching go find evo beating neon video and jackoff

  • hell yeah, that EVO driver didn't know how to pilot his machine properly...also, EVO's will FULLY eat SRT4's off the line. as much as i love the SRT4, they are still wrong wheel drive...a stock evo8 runs at 270hp...at 21psi. where the hell does this 18 come from? boost leak much? that could also contribute to his loss.

  • hell yeah, that EVO driver didn't know how to pilot his machine properly...also, EVO's will FULLY eat SRT4's off the line. as much as i love the SRT4, they are still wrong wheel drive...a stock evo8 runs at 270hp...at 21psi. where the hell does this 18 come from? boost leak much? that could also contribute to his loss.

  • the video is old, at the time i only had stage 1 and the evo was stock....to answer the boost question the srt was boosting about 13 to 15 psi and the evo was around 18

  • wow. the srt is only rockin stage 1? Im really impressed cuz i get smoked from a dig racing evo8s in my srt4. I only have a few bolt ons tho. guess i need to make a call to mopar lol

  • SRT-4 FTW

  • the evo 8 was stock, @ the time the srt4 had stage 1

  • yea the driver of the evo dosent know how to launch the car right becasue my friend has a srt4 modded and i have a evo 8 with only a cat back and from the dig i smoked his ass bad

  • 1. That SRT-4 is not stock

    2. The person driving the Evo needs more practice on how to take off an AWD car.

    3. How much boost are each car running cause that Evo must be on low boost.

  • maybe not, but what is that supposed to mean? i dont hear a BOV but i do hear a cold air intake, and maybe a downpipe with cutout.

  • dude, there is no way that your SRT beat him fair man. the evo is like 276 HP with 274TQ, or sumthing around that, your SRT at best, and ive dyno tested 4 stock SRT dose 240 sum for TQ and 230 HP. Im telling you, the evo driver fucked up, you beat him on technical error. All power to you, good job no joke, but if you find a driver as good as you, the evo is gonna win, if were talking 2 stock cars. So GOOD WIN!!!

  • ...idiot.. the SRT-4 was underrated by dode for insurance purposes. the car makes 250 crank HP, and 270 crank TQ. the evo makes 6 more HP then the srt's TQ. also the EVO is a heavier car waaay heavier off the line the EVO is quick, but in motion they suck. . . i've beaten 2 in my turboed SI (untuned) running 10 psi. . . sorry to say this but EVO's are overrated and they suck. .(stock that is)

  • accually the evo is 16 more hp than the srt's tq

    lol

  • This kid does not know how to drive.

  • Really, are you in a Evo 8? It's weird seeing a SRT-4 Smoke a Evo8... to me at least...

  • ya its an evo 8!! lol, check the dash and the way he launches it

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