lol i had a feeling before i clicked this video that the comments would be filled with arguements over the racial stereotyping in the scene, and those who say so are absolutely right.
but anyone smart enough to see that should also be smart enough to read the date that this movie was made, 1953, enough said
its no secret disney was as antisemitic as they came in those days, but does that really take away from the fact that these movies are eternal gems of animation?
hahahaha Stupid fucking wagon burners, thats what you get for being such useless people. Just like the Africans, The Mexicans had temples with gold to wipe their asses with. You indian alcoholics are fucking redundant..
The plot is great, I love their producers, they really make the cartoon what it is, a true blockbuster. It starts so well and really becomes great. The ending is totaly awesome and that part remminded you again the cartoon is worth a watch. I can honestly say I have never got bored of watching it. See it on fr#eec#artoo#ns (delete all #).
"This is the real true story of the red man, no matter whats been written or said" What is the point in adding this? obviously this is not the true story of the indigenous people.
@KagomeChic well seeing that kids watch this moive more then anyone i dont think they mind and back then people didn't go crazy over racism like they do know and before this was mad
@alwaysalwayslaughing it's true that kids can't tell, but the reason people didn't go crazy when they saw racism back then was because they were racist. cartoons portrayed indians, blacks, and asians strange, giving them idiotic features. While white people looked fine. And no one thought this was wrong.
@yahyaL0V3 I disagree.I think the white kids in this cartoon look pretty ridiculous too. No one complains that Captain Hook looks like an idiot--why is that not blamed as racism against whites?
@DediJ8k I agree that captain hook and his crew looks funny, but that's because they're the enemy. If they were peter pan's allies you can bet they'd look better. don't just look at this movie, look at all cartoons during this time period. blacks have lips that take over they're entire face and asians' have buck teeth and their eyes are always closed. in this, indians have red skin and exaggerated noses, etc. do whites have pale white skin, thin lips, pointy nosed, and crow's feet? no.
I was referring to now.... People are more concerned about the racism than the sexism. For some god forsaken reason, I still enjoy this song. even though it offends me.... it's a weird feeling.
I wouldn't (as most people here it seems) say this is racist. And I say this of one simple reason. It was not meant to be racist. Back then, people did not have the same awareness of racial issues as they do today. I can agree that it is insensitive towards native Americans, but to me, for something to be racist, it needs to have a racist agenda. Which this song did not. They were just ignorant. That is of course also a bad thing, but it is not racism. Their intentions were not bad.
@megagamer1 Yes, but some people....Americans....are watching this....secondly...what does America have to do with racism?! Racism is everywhere and obviously in Neverland as well. Finally look up the word racist...which is an abusive or aggressive behaviour towards members of another race on the basis of such a belief...
I have great respect for any indigenous tribe, they seem to have a very strong connection to their homelands, something that white folk cannot hope to emulate. Here in Australia, as in regrettably many places, we have mistreated our Aboriginal people, as a result, living in this country I feel an unwelcome invader.
the best cartoon that I've seen for a while on "cartoons free us"... I'm simply thriled by this one...it has great romantic parts, also some action, great story and eaven better acting... my applause to everyone who worked on this cartoon!!
Hell I'm native American (Iroquois) and I dont find this offensive at all. To be honest I really like the drums used in the background and I often find myself singing this in the shower.
The writers have said that this scene is a reflection of the times when this film was made, and this scene would be very different if it were made today. Back than, western films that portray native Americans as bloodthirsty killers were very popular, and this scene was actually one of the more positive interpretations of native Americans at the time. And back then portraying Native Americans as down-to-Earth people would be seen as a political agenda
I loved this scene as a kid, but I thought that real Native Americans and their culture were interesting as well. It's a CARTOON. It doesn't have to be realistic.
Also, all the characters in Neverland are supposed to be characters from a child's imagination, except for the Lost Boys. Kids from 1900 London had no way of knowing what real Native Americans were like.
God, all of you quit your damn bitching. It's disney. You're all so focused on how offensive this is to all of you, but you dont think about how everyone has been getting along with each other today. Stop hating on nostalgia.
Man, I can't believe I used to watch this awful, insulting, horribly-unintelligent... thing... when I was a kid. Is it just me, or was racism invented by adults? As a kid, you never notice these kinds of things...
One of the top comments says something about "squaw is the Native American word for cunt." There is no "Native American" language you moron, each tribe/region/etc has it's own language and dialect. The Blackfoot language is not the same as the Apache, which is not the same as the Mohican, which is not the same as the Pottawatomie, and so on and so forth. Furthermore, "Squaw" is an Algonquin word, and it means "woman", not "cunt" as you so obtusely asserted.
@libertyistaken You are absolutely right.....but because of the negative context in which it has been used, we no longer use it and liken it to be on par with calling a woman a derogatory name, as that is how non-Natives always used it. The people who find nothing wrong with this scene, are also likely the people who think we should feel honoured by Chief Wahoo and and Washington Redskins. Ishtaahay!
I am part Native American and this happens to be my favorite scene from Peter Pan. I also sing this song rather frequently. And back in the day some Indians did speak in Broken English so lighten up people stop being so thinned skinned.
@cocoantebellum Ah, the days when we could be viciously racist without fear of repercussions because we didn't have to listen to the people we oppressed.
Ah, 1953, when Jim Crow laws wouldn't be outlawed for another 12 years.
@cocoantebellum Ah, the days when we could be viciously racist without fear of repercussions because we didn't have to listen to the people we oppressed.
Ah, 1953, when Jim Crow laws wouldn't be outlawed for another 12 years.
@abletothink you said something about "squaw is the Native American word for cunt." There is no "Native American" language you moron, each tribe/region/etc has it's own language and dialect. The Blackfoot language is not the same as the Apache, which is not the same as the Mohican, which is not the same as the Pottawatomie, and so on and so forth. Furthermore, "Squaw" is an Algonquin word, and it means "woman", not "cunt" as you so obtusely asserted.
@ranchnugget Haha, I posted one as a reply to the idiot who had been bitching about them saying "squaw" and how it was a "native American" word for 'cunt' and so on, and I must have posted it again as just a general comment. I've never had a top comment before! I feel so special!!
@Iasaboteuse Because it's not racist. It's a KIDS movie and the characters are filled with color for enjoyment. Stop looking for a fight and fuck off.
How can anyone not find this racist? On behalf of all the white people in the comments who are too privileged to see this for what it is, I apologize, 6AXL66.
@lasaboteuse You don't speak for anybody other than yourself. If you find the movie racist that is your opinion.
Cartoons are for enjoyment, the ability to laugh helps people through hard times. As 1/8 Chippewa, I don't find this racist, but a catchy tune that I can sing if I desire. My skin is 'redder' than my friends.
@Garrick89 Just trying to mitigate the hurt and damage others are doing by defending stuff like this. I wasn't speaking for anyone; I was apologizing to 6AXL66 for them.
@lasaboteuse but you can't speak for us. and the indians in the movie don't mind so why should anyone else? it's called race pride. God made different races for a reason; non are better, they're just different so that the world is more interesting.
Okay. You're 1/8 Chippewa. I don't have much to work with there because I don't know if you've been affected by racism or not. What I do know is that a lot of Native people ARE harmed by images like this, and I'm just showing support for 6AXL66, a Native person who's opposing stuff like this for that reason. Just because you claim native ancestry and aren't offended doesn't mean it's not offensive.
@lasaboteuse Okay, I see the angle you're coming from, however many people whom I know don't find this racist. Also, there is no fallacy in my statement, but their is a false dichotomy in yours. The assumption that there are people who are offended because you tie it to a time frame that had inherent racism. If 1 out of 100 find something offensive, does that mean they should censor creative expression?
@Garrick89 Who said anything about censorship? I never said they should ban the movie or cut out this scene. I just think we should acknowledge it's racist, racially insensitive, offensive, or whatever you want to call it, and watch it with a critical eye.
Apologizing on behalf of others who have nothing to apologize for, is narcissism. You didn't make the movie, therefore you have no right to apologize. You're trying to force yourself into a controversy that isn't yours. It is unnecessary drama. If we didn't accept it, we'd have already tried to make an appeal. My assumption is: "those that are offended are a significant minority and to sacrifice a classic for the sake of several thousand is childish."
@Garrick89 I wasn't apologizing for the movie. I was apologizing to a particular commenter for the pile-on (s)he received from other commenters.
And again, where are you getting this "sacrificing a classic" stuff from? Calling out racism is not the same thing as banning the movie. I'm sorry if the possibility that certain aspects of Peter Pan might be viciously racist ruins your enjoyment of the movie, but that can't be helped.
@lasaboteuse Oh, I didn't see those comments. I apologize for that. Maybe, it'd have been best to research your stance, before thinking you're the standard apologist. Take care.
@lasaboteuse I know that. But remember, this is a story about a boy who can fly, a pixie dust fairy, mermaids, generic pirates, a magical island. It's fiction! Nothing is supposed to be realistic.
The indians here are a lot like what little children think of when indians come to mind.
@Doughboy123x Yeah, and you know that's a problem, right? What if Little Black Sambo was what children think of when Black people "come to mind"? What if WWII posters depicting the Japanese were what children thought of when Asians "come to mind"? Those images shouldn't be reinforced!
Besides, I don't buy this "fantasy" argument. Pixie dust isn't real. Mermaids aren't real. Pirates don't exist anymore (except in Somalia, I guess). Native people ARE REAL, and they are HARMED by these images.
@Doughboy123x (cont'd) No one is racist against mermaids, so they can depict them however they want (just so long as they don't play off of any real-world stereotypes). People keep insisting that Never-Never Land isn't our world. So then why not make up completely fantastical magical indigenous people?
@Doughboy123x Pssst, your ignorance is showing. "The Indians" weren't like that "many years ago," either. They were NEVER like that.
What part of the song is insulting? That's like asking what part of a minstrel show is insulting to Black people. EVERYTHING. Yeah, it's partly how they look—compare Tiger Lily to the other Indians. It's also how they speak and what they do.
Even as a little kid I loved this scene. It's really catchy and a lot of fun. Even now that I'm an adult, I still love it! Actually, as a kid, this song actually had me respect Indians more. I'm not kidding. They're really cool.
@Doughboy123x Good for you, except what you think is "cool" is a vicious stereotype that doesn't reflect the realities of any Native people then or now.
@lasaboteuse Insulting or not, I highly doubt Walt Disney was "trying" to be offensive. I think it's just innocent fun.
Remember, kids love the indians, they love the pirates, they love a lot of things that Neverland has to offer. And that's why I love this movie so much.
If this scene offends you in any way, I'm sorry for that, but I honestly think they didn't intentionally make it racist.
@lasaboteuse Okay okay. Let's put it this way. You're back in the 1940's/50's, and you're an animator for Disney. How would you animate this scene? And no, you can't remove them entirely, for they're important in the story.
@Doughboy123x Well, first of all, I'm female, so I wouldn't be an animator for Disney, since they had a policy of not hiring women as animators, only as "color girls," clean-up artists, etc.
But that aside, yeah, I would probably animate it this way. What's your point, though? That doesn't make it okay. Just because it is a product of its time does not mean you can't denounce it from today's perspective, especially when people are still watching it and seeing nothing wrong with it, period.
@lasaboteuse But if you find it offensive, why would you animate it this way? Ignore the fact that your supervisors tell you to. What if you were in charge of how it was to be animated?
And, yes, you have a point, things were different back then. I think it'd be a bit harsh to completely do away with it today.
@Doughboy123x I'm trying to concede that I'm not this extraordinary, morally pure person who would never be racist in any time or place. If I were alive in 1953 it's highly likely I would not see a problem with stereotypes like those in the film.
Thus I'm not saying we should necessarily condemn the individual people BEHIND stuff like this scene, because while they should have known better, it might be unreasonable to expect them to. But we have every right to condemn the images themselves.
Define innocent, though. Just because this stuff was standard for its does not make it okay. Just because this racism was so accepted, and the oppressed people so erased and invisible, that people didn't understand how harmful they were being (or didn't care), doesn't make it "innocent." Do you see the difference?
@lasaboteuse Innocent as in not offensive or insulting.
And don't get me wrong. I don't mind at all whether anyone is black, white, or any color. And I have seen some very racist material before and I'm totally against them. I just don't find this scene that harmful in any way.
Call it what you want, but I'll always love this scene for years.
@lasaboteuse Once again, if I ever watch anything insulting to black people, I'm totally against it. I have seen a few very racist scenes before, and I really dislike them.
I don't know if it's just me, but I just don't see anything wrong with this movie. Really I don't. If it's because of the way they talk or the way they look, Disney naturally did stuff like that back then.
I mean, if this movie was made today I'd probably be more aware of its racism, but I don't get that here.
@lasaboteuse What? No! I was meaning Native Americans too.
And I like I said, I have great respect for Native Americans. I just don't see this segment that bad. There are far, far worse things I've seen and this falls in a very minor category to me.
Is this song racist? Yes, or at the very least extremely insulting. Is it malicious? No. This is the sort of racism that's born out of ignorance and is a product of the times. It's certainly not hateful though. So getting angry about it really isn't necessary. The best thing to do is just forgive it and try not make a fuck up like this again.
Though musically speaking it still is pretty solid.
How is a group of young kids wanting to learn about a different culture considered racist? They just ask what any kid would think, "why are we different?". To which, they answer with jokes and clever puns, to show us how childish the question "why are we different?" truly is. We are not as different as (a minority of) people would like to think we are. .... But then again, this is Disney we are talking about, so yeah it's probably just being racist. DAMN YOU WALT! U NAZI S.O.B.!
@DangerDevir hope this was sarcasm calling walt a so called "nazi" HE WASN'T RACIST FOR FUCK SAKES. Will all you idiots just relax and enjoy a classic piece from peter pan.
@andross51 Actually, he was. Walt Disney was famous for it (being racist, not being a Nazi, although it was people of the Jewish faith that he didn't like).
@wildste it was a famous rumor based on some of the people he hung around. There's not really much evidence that he was racist. But keep on spreading the myth if you like
@DangerDevir Put away the strawman, the objection here is not about the kids but about the incredibly vile, one-dimensional racial caricatures prancing around.
The peace pipe is sacred and so os tobacco... It is not the same as the tobacco profited from! Tobacco, pure sacred tobacco, has always been one of our sacred medicines until greedy and ignorant colonials sought to profit and intoxicated it and all of the things God made sacred. Wow pitiful and ignorant shiz!
@cartoonkingforeever you sound fuckin stupid why do you think life is? you neeed to reacho out to him hes coming and your going gto feeel reallly stupid when you dont go with us.
Disgusting and ignorant! How would you like it if someone made a video entitled what makes the white man white and show him honoring a giant bunny rabbit for a holiday or reading a giant book to relate to God and his "being" or depicting him raping and eating up the Earth which he does at an enormous rate! That would be hurtful. You are an ignorant person!
You're commenting a lot, you seem a little...upset? mad perhaps?
This film is 60 years old, so just calm down. A lot more racist acts were committed in those times then creating this catchy tune, and showing in these days just further enforces the need for change (that was carried out).
@nomchews yeah people just don't understand when you don't teach kids about racism and how bad things where back in those days then they have a good chance of being racist
@lumbeelocs are you referring to the video or a comment made on here? if your talking about the video then dude it came in the 50's dumbass there where a lot of racist shit going on back then a million times worse than this so actually learn some history nimrod
@lumbeelocs not really. White man can't jump exists and I see no outrage about that. Plus this video doesn't really portray native Americans that negatively, just inaccurately. Which considering the time period, there was a lot worse going on
@thebuckrogers22 Remember it was 1953 when this came out it wasn't a big deal back then. Nowadays it would be the subject of censoring and controversy
@FourSquareEyes Look i'm not gonna argue with you on here of all places, Racism and stereotypes are interlinked they are called "racist stereotypes". If you deny that racist stereotypes exist then you are the narrow minded one, things like this video are products of their time and should be treated as such. The end.
Actually, they're called racial stereotypes; despite what name society wishes to give them.
A racist stereotype would be a stereotype of a racist person, which can be well interlinked with racial stereotypes aswell (I never stated racism and stereotypes weren't linked - but they're very different).
@littlesmudge8743 There are so many ways to interpret that comment but I'm going to assume you meant "Hipsters in headdresses are !@#$ morons" and thumb you up.
Oh man you could SO not get away with this anymore... people are far too over-sensitive to any sort of racial or cultural generalization. Instead of learning to laugh at ourselves for our racial or cultural oddities and take it in humor, we take offense instead. :-(
@nighthawk663 I guess it's unless if there is Native American involvement in the movie. This movie WAS made by a dominantly white group of people after all. But cultural inaccuracy aside, I like this song. :)
Tell me about it. I dislike the fact that people are not smart enough to realize that this was made at a different time. We can not just get rid of movies just because their politically incorrect, because it would be denying that those prejudices existed. We need to remember in order to avoid it, if we don't remember we will fall back into the same pattern.
lol i had a feeling before i clicked this video that the comments would be filled with arguements over the racial stereotyping in the scene, and those who say so are absolutely right.
but anyone smart enough to see that should also be smart enough to read the date that this movie was made, 1953, enough said
its no secret disney was as antisemitic as they came in those days, but does that really take away from the fact that these movies are eternal gems of animation?
arrestmeimwhite 11 hours ago
hahahaha Stupid fucking wagon burners, thats what you get for being such useless people. Just like the Africans, The Mexicans had temples with gold to wipe their asses with. You indian alcoholics are fucking redundant..
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The plot is great, I love their producers, they really make the cartoon what it is, a true blockbuster. It starts so well and really becomes great. The ending is totaly awesome and that part remminded you again the cartoon is worth a watch. I can honestly say I have never got bored of watching it. See it on fr#eec#artoo#ns (delete all #).
pushpa23438 1 day ago
"This is the real true story of the red man, no matter whats been written or said" What is the point in adding this? obviously this is not the true story of the indigenous people.
waxer1987 1 day ago
"What made the red man red?
Let's go back a million years to the very first Indian prince.
He kissed a maid n start to blush
And we've all been blushing since."
Am I the only one that found that cute?
TheAPrincess 2 days ago 4
Wow, these implications are pretty unfortunate.
mechanixis 3 days ago
The whole thing about squaw meaning cunt is the punchline to an old joke that I can't remember.
AryanBarbarian777 3 days ago
1:45 - 1:48 "Everyday I'm shufflin'"
Hellsing666x 3 days ago
I don't care if people think this song is offensive IT'S FUCKING AWSOME!
theshiznits2020 4 days ago
SEXIST towards the end, as well as racially ignorant.
MrImastinker 5 days ago
Wtf I'm not as red as a fucking crayon this Is racist
MsSilentlySuffering 5 days ago
@MsSilentlySuffering its a fucking disney cartoon. calm the fuck down.
rophie17 1 day ago
@rophie17 Check your fucking privilege buddy, this entire scene reeks of racist stereotypes that can't be considered anything BUT offensive.
Kekosawr 1 day ago
I love how not only is this racist.... but it's also sexist.. and nobody is saying a damned thing
KagomeChic 1 week ago
@KagomeChic well seeing that kids watch this moive more then anyone i dont think they mind and back then people didn't go crazy over racism like they do know and before this was mad
alwaysalwayslaughing 4 days ago in playlist Disney Songs
@alwaysalwayslaughing it's true that kids can't tell, but the reason people didn't go crazy when they saw racism back then was because they were racist. cartoons portrayed indians, blacks, and asians strange, giving them idiotic features. While white people looked fine. And no one thought this was wrong.
yahyaL0V3 4 days ago
@yahyaL0V3 I disagree.I think the white kids in this cartoon look pretty ridiculous too. No one complains that Captain Hook looks like an idiot--why is that not blamed as racism against whites?
DediJ8k 1 day ago
@DediJ8k I agree that captain hook and his crew looks funny, but that's because they're the enemy. If they were peter pan's allies you can bet they'd look better. don't just look at this movie, look at all cartoons during this time period. blacks have lips that take over they're entire face and asians' have buck teeth and their eyes are always closed. in this, indians have red skin and exaggerated noses, etc. do whites have pale white skin, thin lips, pointy nosed, and crow's feet? no.
yahyal0v 1 day ago
@alwaysalwayslaughing
I was referring to now.... People are more concerned about the racism than the sexism. For some god forsaken reason, I still enjoy this song. even though it offends me.... it's a weird feeling.
KagomeChic 4 days ago
I wouldn't (as most people here it seems) say this is racist. And I say this of one simple reason. It was not meant to be racist. Back then, people did not have the same awareness of racial issues as they do today. I can agree that it is insensitive towards native Americans, but to me, for something to be racist, it needs to have a racist agenda. Which this song did not. They were just ignorant. That is of course also a bad thing, but it is not racism. Their intentions were not bad.
Tionsity 1 week ago
If you're gonna have 2 top comments. Just have one.
If you're gonna have 2 top comments. Just have one.
Brocnar 1 week ago 8
anyone who says this is racist, may I remind you of something?
this isn't america, this is neverland.
megagamer1 1 week ago
@megagamer1 Yes, but some people....Americans....are watching this....secondly...what does America have to do with racism?! Racism is everywhere and obviously in Neverland as well. Finally look up the word racist...which is an abusive or aggressive behaviour towards members of another race on the basis of such a belief...
ClaRyssieLB 1 week ago
Great song, and if someone said that this is racist, or offensive, I will manifest destiny your ass.
rwatt5931 1 week ago
I have great respect for any indigenous tribe, they seem to have a very strong connection to their homelands, something that white folk cannot hope to emulate. Here in Australia, as in regrettably many places, we have mistreated our Aboriginal people, as a result, living in this country I feel an unwelcome invader.
Rhinogradentian 1 week ago
This was the most notable song of the movie, because it was catchy.
Kalawishis 1 week ago
Historically immaculate but back when it was made, it wasn't. I appreciate all cultures and am not offended at all.
NinjaPandasOfDeath 2 weeks ago
= w=" im native american AND I DON'T FIND THIS OFFENSIVE xD i find it very catchy!
princessnisey2 2 weeks ago
wasnt racist when i was a kid
jakekel666 2 weeks ago
@jakekel666 Yes it was, you just didn't notice.
edmundog 2 weeks ago
Such potheads.
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the best cartoon that I've seen for a while on "cartoons free us"... I'm simply thriled by this one...it has great romantic parts, also some action, great story and eaven better acting... my applause to everyone who worked on this cartoon!!
bipul432 2 weeks ago
HAOO!
MohoBiechiz 2 weeks ago
Hell I'm native American (Iroquois) and I dont find this offensive at all. To be honest I really like the drums used in the background and I often find myself singing this in the shower.
MrDaratum 2 weeks ago
1:16, dude just made the "Oh hell naw!" face.
ac120479 3 weeks ago
The writers have said that this scene is a reflection of the times when this film was made, and this scene would be very different if it were made today. Back than, western films that portray native Americans as bloodthirsty killers were very popular, and this scene was actually one of the more positive interpretations of native Americans at the time. And back then portraying Native Americans as down-to-Earth people would be seen as a political agenda
MrPlanetvideogame 3 weeks ago
God damn red niggers
STEVEyoooo 3 weeks ago
Notice how the Native American girl is animated withstylized movement, but Wendy, the Brit, looks like she's rotoscoped.
MondoBeno 3 weeks ago
"Teach 'em pale-faced brother all about red man"
Like indigenous people ever called themselves "red men" -.-
muwuhu 3 weeks ago
I loved this scene as a kid, but I thought that real Native Americans and their culture were interesting as well. It's a CARTOON. It doesn't have to be realistic.
Also, all the characters in Neverland are supposed to be characters from a child's imagination, except for the Lost Boys. Kids from 1900 London had no way of knowing what real Native Americans were like.
BizzarreProductions 3 weeks ago
in the background it sounds like they're saying "i dont wanna gum drop, i dont wanna gum drop" over and over...
jessie9723 3 weeks ago
I find it amusing that the top comments are the same exact thing by the same exact person. :D
sophie777277 3 weeks ago in playlist Disney
did they say ganja. if so all would make sense
hottamalehottamale 3 weeks ago
WHOOOOO THIS REMINDS ME OF THE GOOD DAYS OF CHIEF ILLINIWECK!!!!!!!!
temparknight 3 weeks ago
I never knew native americans knew jazz
kevinsharpe97 3 weeks ago
Im Mi'kmaq and I think this is HILARIOUS
SSK4Roughriders 3 weeks ago
The Little Indian Girl Is Purty!
xAstronomy 4 weeks ago
Was the sound at 2:26 her alarm because wendy left? I still wonder... Catchy song though!
MegaKaaber 1 month ago
Obviously Disney painted the red man red.
mjn76 1 month ago
Seriously? People. If this is offensive, then why are you here? Go away, and leave us all.
Suni253 1 month ago
someone should make a compilation of all of the racist moments in disney film history.
the1tigglet 1 month ago
God, all of you quit your damn bitching. It's disney. You're all so focused on how offensive this is to all of you, but you dont think about how everyone has been getting along with each other today. Stop hating on nostalgia.
HighScarlettFever 1 month ago
Man, I can't believe I used to watch this awful, insulting, horribly-unintelligent... thing... when I was a kid. Is it just me, or was racism invented by adults? As a kid, you never notice these kinds of things...
TheMTPrower 1 month ago
Native American, Indian... I'm part Native American and I fucking love this!
JuggaletteBaby24 1 month ago 2
Dear God.....
TheEDBShow 1 month ago
One of the top comments says something about "squaw is the Native American word for cunt." There is no "Native American" language you moron, each tribe/region/etc has it's own language and dialect. The Blackfoot language is not the same as the Apache, which is not the same as the Mohican, which is not the same as the Pottawatomie, and so on and so forth. Furthermore, "Squaw" is an Algonquin word, and it means "woman", not "cunt" as you so obtusely asserted.
libertyistaken 1 month ago 35
I am a Native Neverlandian and my people aren't like this and MY SISTER IS NOT A DAMN SLUT
shadow102811 1 month ago
The Redman Is Red because of the dislike bar
TheSahil360 1 month ago
1:46
Everyday im shuffling LOL
TheSahil360 1 month ago
@libertyistaken You are absolutely right.....but because of the negative context in which it has been used, we no longer use it and liken it to be on par with calling a woman a derogatory name, as that is how non-Natives always used it. The people who find nothing wrong with this scene, are also likely the people who think we should feel honoured by Chief Wahoo and and Washington Redskins. Ishtaahay!
Ajidamoon 1 month ago
the wonderfully racist world of disney how i love you
TheJMFDUDE 1 month ago
@Doughboy123x
@lasaboteuse
C'mon guys, let's stop arguing and watch the dang clip. If you think it's offensive, just don't watch it, ok? :p
HighScarlettFever 1 month ago 3
I am part Native American and this happens to be my favorite scene from Peter Pan. I also sing this song rather frequently. And back in the day some Indians did speak in Broken English so lighten up people stop being so thinned skinned.
ldfarris 1 month ago
@ldfarris you make me sick, you're no true Native.
batmanmotherfucker 1 month ago
Squaw NO GET UM FIREWOOD! Squaw go home!!! LOLOL
SaltwaterAir1 1 month ago in playlist Official Classic Disney Playlist
@SaltwaterAir1 Squaw=cunt LMFAO
Thugtorious 1 month ago
@Thugtorious ooookkkk i don't think that's funny....
SaltwaterAir1 1 month ago
@SaltwaterAir1 Thats what it actualy means
Thugtorious 1 month ago
@Thugtorious yes i believe you but i don't find it amusing...
SaltwaterAir1 1 month ago
@SaltwaterAir1 sheesh get a sense of humor man haha
Thugtorious 1 month ago
@cocoantebellum P.S. Nice name, coco "antebellum."
lasaboteuse 1 month ago
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@cocoantebellum Ah, the days when we could be viciously racist without fear of repercussions because we didn't have to listen to the people we oppressed.
Ah, 1953, when Jim Crow laws wouldn't be outlawed for another 12 years.
lasaboteuse 1 month ago 2
@cocoantebellum Ah, the days when we could be viciously racist without fear of repercussions because we didn't have to listen to the people we oppressed.
Ah, 1953, when Jim Crow laws wouldn't be outlawed for another 12 years.
lasaboteuse 1 month ago
if anyone thinks this is racist then why are you listening?? keep your negativity away from others enjoyment!
disneylove44300 1 month ago
@disneylove44300 Oh, it IS racist. There's nothing wrong with feeling that. It's just pointless to gripe about it when you can laugh, instead.
Exccentrous1 1 month ago
I love how they use the word "squaw" which is the Native American word for "cunt" in literally all of it's various definitions.
abletothink 1 month ago 9
@abletothink that's nasty, we really didn't need to know
SaltwaterAir1 1 month ago
@abletothink you said something about "squaw is the Native American word for cunt." There is no "Native American" language you moron, each tribe/region/etc has it's own language and dialect. The Blackfoot language is not the same as the Apache, which is not the same as the Mohican, which is not the same as the Pottawatomie, and so on and so forth. Furthermore, "Squaw" is an Algonquin word, and it means "woman", not "cunt" as you so obtusely asserted.
libertyistaken 1 month ago 68
@libertyistaken Dude! Both of your comments are top rated on this video! You must be an original guy!
ranchnugget 3 weeks ago
@ranchnugget Haha, I posted one as a reply to the idiot who had been bitching about them saying "squaw" and how it was a "native American" word for 'cunt' and so on, and I must have posted it again as just a general comment. I've never had a top comment before! I feel so special!!
libertyistaken 3 weeks ago 3
@libertyistaken but you have to admit it would be funny if you translate it as, "cunt no dance, cunt get firewood."
MohoBiechiz 2 weeks ago
@libertyistaken Well said !
RedNativeRose 4 days ago
@abletothink and Micheal said it xD
JuggaletteBaby24 1 month ago
@Iasaboteuse Because it's not racist. It's a KIDS movie and the characters are filled with color for enjoyment. Stop looking for a fight and fuck off.
WiggleTick 1 month ago
@WiggleTick Kids' movies can't be racist?
lasaboteuse 1 month ago
How can anyone not find this racist? On behalf of all the white people in the comments who are too privileged to see this for what it is, I apologize, 6AXL66.
lasaboteuse 1 month ago
@lasaboteuse You don't speak for anybody other than yourself. If you find the movie racist that is your opinion.
Cartoons are for enjoyment, the ability to laugh helps people through hard times. As 1/8 Chippewa, I don't find this racist, but a catchy tune that I can sing if I desire. My skin is 'redder' than my friends.
Lastly, this movie was made in 1953, chill out.
Garrick89 1 month ago
@Garrick89 Just trying to mitigate the hurt and damage others are doing by defending stuff like this. I wasn't speaking for anyone; I was apologizing to 6AXL66 for them.
lasaboteuse 1 month ago
@lasaboteuse but you can't speak for us. and the indians in the movie don't mind so why should anyone else? it's called race pride. God made different races for a reason; non are better, they're just different so that the world is more interesting.
SaltwaterAir1 1 month ago
@Garrick89
(cont'd)
So many fallacies. Where to begin?
Okay. You're 1/8 Chippewa. I don't have much to work with there because I don't know if you've been affected by racism or not. What I do know is that a lot of Native people ARE harmed by images like this, and I'm just showing support for 6AXL66, a Native person who's opposing stuff like this for that reason. Just because you claim native ancestry and aren't offended doesn't mean it's not offensive.
lasaboteuse 1 month ago
@Garrick89
(cont'd)
And the fact that the movie was made in 1953 (partly) explains the racism. It doesn't excuse it, and it certainly doesn't mean it's not racist.
lasaboteuse 1 month ago
@lasaboteuse Okay, I see the angle you're coming from, however many people whom I know don't find this racist. Also, there is no fallacy in my statement, but their is a false dichotomy in yours. The assumption that there are people who are offended because you tie it to a time frame that had inherent racism. If 1 out of 100 find something offensive, does that mean they should censor creative expression?
Garrick89 1 month ago
@Garrick89 Who said anything about censorship? I never said they should ban the movie or cut out this scene. I just think we should acknowledge it's racist, racially insensitive, offensive, or whatever you want to call it, and watch it with a critical eye.
lasaboteuse 1 month ago
@lasaboteuse (cont.)
Apologizing on behalf of others who have nothing to apologize for, is narcissism. You didn't make the movie, therefore you have no right to apologize. You're trying to force yourself into a controversy that isn't yours. It is unnecessary drama. If we didn't accept it, we'd have already tried to make an appeal. My assumption is: "those that are offended are a significant minority and to sacrifice a classic for the sake of several thousand is childish."
Garrick89 1 month ago
@Garrick89 I wasn't apologizing for the movie. I was apologizing to a particular commenter for the pile-on (s)he received from other commenters.
And again, where are you getting this "sacrificing a classic" stuff from? Calling out racism is not the same thing as banning the movie. I'm sorry if the possibility that certain aspects of Peter Pan might be viciously racist ruins your enjoyment of the movie, but that can't be helped.
lasaboteuse 1 month ago
@lasaboteuse Oh, I didn't see those comments. I apologize for that. Maybe, it'd have been best to research your stance, before thinking you're the standard apologist. Take care.
Garrick89 1 month ago
DUUUUR What made the red man red?
TheSammyMorrisShow 1 month ago
i can just see them discussing this scene
What do indians do, John.
Uh, I think they play drums...
Oh! and their skin is kind of red.
and they war whoop...
Roger? John? Are you sure we're portraying indians correctly.
Well, it's the fifties, so how should we know?
yo5612 1 month ago 2
Racist? I don't give a damn, It's so CATCHY!
MegaKaaber 1 month ago
ahhh the days when Disney had balls!
KingOystar 1 month ago
oMg Lol It took me 18 yrs to figure out this?!?! Lool OD racist!!! Haha, becuz their Indian that's why...Racist lmao smh
SoraXme 1 month ago
i still dont understand why the red man is red
Thugtorious 1 month ago
I don't find them offensive or this song. I thought it was pretty cool!
JoeCoolFreeman 1 month ago
it's not racist at all. they're simply using stereotypes to create funny loveable characters. no one's being mean or racist here in this clip.
teentitans0789 1 month ago
@cocoantebellum Yes, back when casual racism was considered funny, and when a black guy couldn't eat at Woolworth's. Ya know, the good old days.
endersgame55 1 month ago
These Indians are not from our world.
...Understand?!
Doughboy123x 1 month ago
@Doughboy123x Oh come on. The "Indians" in Peter Pan weren't created in a vacuum, you know.
lasaboteuse 1 month ago
@lasaboteuse I know that. But remember, this is a story about a boy who can fly, a pixie dust fairy, mermaids, generic pirates, a magical island. It's fiction! Nothing is supposed to be realistic.
The indians here are a lot like what little children think of when indians come to mind.
Doughboy123x 1 month ago
@Doughboy123x Yeah, and you know that's a problem, right? What if Little Black Sambo was what children think of when Black people "come to mind"? What if WWII posters depicting the Japanese were what children thought of when Asians "come to mind"? Those images shouldn't be reinforced!
Besides, I don't buy this "fantasy" argument. Pixie dust isn't real. Mermaids aren't real. Pirates don't exist anymore (except in Somalia, I guess). Native people ARE REAL, and they are HARMED by these images.
lasaboteuse 1 month ago
@Doughboy123x (cont'd) No one is racist against mermaids, so they can depict them however they want (just so long as they don't play off of any real-world stereotypes). People keep insisting that Never-Never Land isn't our world. So then why not make up completely fantastical magical indigenous people?
lasaboteuse 1 month ago
@lasaboteuse I have nothing against any race or color or whatever. And I still find this scene a lot of fun.
And who says that this is depicting the Indians now? They're supposed to be like the Indians from many years ago.
And also, what part of this song insults you? Just how funny the characters look? Disney does that to pretty much every character.
Doughboy123x 1 month ago
@Doughboy123x Pssst, your ignorance is showing. "The Indians" weren't like that "many years ago," either. They were NEVER like that.
What part of the song is insulting? That's like asking what part of a minstrel show is insulting to Black people. EVERYTHING. Yeah, it's partly how they look—compare Tiger Lily to the other Indians. It's also how they speak and what they do.
lasaboteuse 1 month ago
@lasaboteuse You have your opinions. I have mine.
Even as a little kid I loved this scene. It's really catchy and a lot of fun. Even now that I'm an adult, I still love it! Actually, as a kid, this song actually had me respect Indians more. I'm not kidding. They're really cool.
Doughboy123x 1 month ago
@Doughboy123x Good for you, except what you think is "cool" is a vicious stereotype that doesn't reflect the realities of any Native people then or now.
lasaboteuse 1 month ago
@lasaboteuse Insulting or not, I highly doubt Walt Disney was "trying" to be offensive. I think it's just innocent fun.
Remember, kids love the indians, they love the pirates, they love a lot of things that Neverland has to offer. And that's why I love this movie so much.
If this scene offends you in any way, I'm sorry for that, but I honestly think they didn't intentionally make it racist.
Doughboy123x 1 month ago
@Doughboy123x Intention has nothing to do with it...it's simply racist by default.
Also, all this stuff about what "the kids" think, what they love, etc. What about Native kids? Is this supposed to be how they see themselves?
lasaboteuse 1 month ago
@lasaboteuse Okay okay. Let's put it this way. You're back in the 1940's/50's, and you're an animator for Disney. How would you animate this scene? And no, you can't remove them entirely, for they're important in the story.
Doughboy123x 1 month ago
@Doughboy123x Well, first of all, I'm female, so I wouldn't be an animator for Disney, since they had a policy of not hiring women as animators, only as "color girls," clean-up artists, etc.
But that aside, yeah, I would probably animate it this way. What's your point, though? That doesn't make it okay. Just because it is a product of its time does not mean you can't denounce it from today's perspective, especially when people are still watching it and seeing nothing wrong with it, period.
lasaboteuse 1 month ago
@lasaboteuse But if you find it offensive, why would you animate it this way? Ignore the fact that your supervisors tell you to. What if you were in charge of how it was to be animated?
And, yes, you have a point, things were different back then. I think it'd be a bit harsh to completely do away with it today.
Doughboy123x 1 month ago
@Doughboy123x I'm trying to concede that I'm not this extraordinary, morally pure person who would never be racist in any time or place. If I were alive in 1953 it's highly likely I would not see a problem with stereotypes like those in the film.
Thus I'm not saying we should necessarily condemn the individual people BEHIND stuff like this scene, because while they should have known better, it might be unreasonable to expect them to. But we have every right to condemn the images themselves.
lasaboteuse 1 month ago
@lasaboteuse If you find it insulting, that's fine. If I find it perfectly innocent, that's fine.
What's done is done. Especially for a movie that was done over 50 years ago.
Doughboy123x 1 month ago
@Doughboy123x
Define innocent, though. Just because this stuff was standard for its does not make it okay. Just because this racism was so accepted, and the oppressed people so erased and invisible, that people didn't understand how harmful they were being (or didn't care), doesn't make it "innocent." Do you see the difference?
lasaboteuse 1 month ago 2
@lasaboteuse standard for its TIME
lasaboteuse 1 month ago
@lasaboteuse Innocent as in not offensive or insulting.
And don't get me wrong. I don't mind at all whether anyone is black, white, or any color. And I have seen some very racist material before and I'm totally against them. I just don't find this scene that harmful in any way.
Call it what you want, but I'll always love this scene for years.
Doughboy123x 1 month ago
@Doughboy123x If you don't find this scene offensive, that means that you have a skewed view of Native people. It's just that simple.
lasaboteuse 1 month ago
@lasaboteuse Once again, if I ever watch anything insulting to black people, I'm totally against it. I have seen a few very racist scenes before, and I really dislike them.
I don't know if it's just me, but I just don't see anything wrong with this movie. Really I don't. If it's because of the way they talk or the way they look, Disney naturally did stuff like that back then.
I mean, if this movie was made today I'd probably be more aware of its racism, but I don't get that here.
Doughboy123x 1 month ago
@Doughboy123x Wait, so you're saying this isn't racist because it's insulting to Native Americans and not Black people? Are you serious?
lasaboteuse 1 month ago
@lasaboteuse What? No! I was meaning Native Americans too.
And I like I said, I have great respect for Native Americans. I just don't see this segment that bad. There are far, far worse things I've seen and this falls in a very minor category to me.
Doughboy123x 1 month ago
@lasaboteuse Thanks for getting what seems to be lost on so many people.
Ajidamoon 1 month ago
@Ajidamoon No problem. It's amazing the lengths people will go to deny or excuse racism in something they like.
lasaboteuse 1 month ago
nostalgia critic
toSTONEiGO 1 month ago 10
@toSTONEiGO haha, you dident even need to say anything other than his name and you get thumbs up? xD
LordManda2 1 month ago
@toSTONEiGO Nostalgia Critic got it wrong.
lasaboteuse 1 month ago
Is this song racist? Yes, or at the very least extremely insulting. Is it malicious? No. This is the sort of racism that's born out of ignorance and is a product of the times. It's certainly not hateful though. So getting angry about it really isn't necessary. The best thing to do is just forgive it and try not make a fuck up like this again.
Though musically speaking it still is pretty solid.
zoor90 1 month ago 2
People need to just take a breathe, relax, sit back, and enjoy the magic that is Peter Pan.
breezymariexoxoxo 1 month ago 4
@breezymariexoxoxo No, but thanks for playing.
lasaboteuse 1 month ago
How is a group of young kids wanting to learn about a different culture considered racist? They just ask what any kid would think, "why are we different?". To which, they answer with jokes and clever puns, to show us how childish the question "why are we different?" truly is. We are not as different as (a minority of) people would like to think we are. .... But then again, this is Disney we are talking about, so yeah it's probably just being racist. DAMN YOU WALT! U NAZI S.O.B.!
DangerDevir 1 month ago
@DangerDevir hope this was sarcasm calling walt a so called "nazi" HE WASN'T RACIST FOR FUCK SAKES. Will all you idiots just relax and enjoy a classic piece from peter pan.
andross51 1 month ago
@andross51 Actually, he was. Walt Disney was famous for it (being racist, not being a Nazi, although it was people of the Jewish faith that he didn't like).
wildste 1 month ago 2
@wildste it was a famous rumor based on some of the people he hung around. There's not really much evidence that he was racist. But keep on spreading the myth if you like
lProN00bl 1 month ago
@DangerDevir Put away the strawman, the objection here is not about the kids but about the incredibly vile, one-dimensional racial caricatures prancing around.
endersgame55 1 month ago 2
@endersgame55 THANK you!
lasaboteuse 1 month ago
Red and proud to be polly golly wump wump :D
98u5 1 month ago
seriously!!! and people say song of the south is racist ><
corkman666 1 month ago
@corkman666 It is.
lasaboteuse 1 month ago
That was definitely most enlightening.
CactusJackFan 1 month ago
Fucking awsome!
theshiznits2020 1 month ago
6AXL66 that was the best comment I ever heard! :D
theshiznits2020 1 month ago
.... Wow.. I'm not the only person specifically looking for this song!!
Suni253 1 month ago
The peace pipe is sacred and so os tobacco... It is not the same as the tobacco profited from! Tobacco, pure sacred tobacco, has always been one of our sacred medicines until greedy and ignorant colonials sought to profit and intoxicated it and all of the things God made sacred. Wow pitiful and ignorant shiz!
lumbeelocs 1 month ago
@lumbeelocs there is no god, there are only gods and spirits
cartoonkingforeever 1 month ago
@cartoonkingforeever you sound fuckin stupid why do you think life is? you neeed to reacho out to him hes coming and your going gto feeel reallly stupid when you dont go with us.
TheShadowfication 1 month ago
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@TheShadowfication what the fuck are you saying?
cartoonkingforeever 1 month ago
@TheShadowfication God would not approve the choice of words but your correct :)
98u5 1 month ago
Disgusting and ignorant! How would you like it if someone made a video entitled what makes the white man white and show him honoring a giant bunny rabbit for a holiday or reading a giant book to relate to God and his "being" or depicting him raping and eating up the Earth which he does at an enormous rate! That would be hurtful. You are an ignorant person!
lumbeelocs 1 month ago
@lumbeelocs
You're commenting a lot, you seem a little...upset? mad perhaps?
This film is 60 years old, so just calm down. A lot more racist acts were committed in those times then creating this catchy tune, and showing in these days just further enforces the need for change (that was carried out).
nomchews 1 month ago
@nomchews yeah people just don't understand when you don't teach kids about racism and how bad things where back in those days then they have a good chance of being racist
cartoonkingforeever 1 month ago
@lumbeelocs are you referring to the video or a comment made on here? if your talking about the video then dude it came in the 50's dumbass there where a lot of racist shit going on back then a million times worse than this so actually learn some history nimrod
cartoonkingforeever 1 month ago
@lumbeelocs not really. White man can't jump exists and I see no outrage about that. Plus this video doesn't really portray native Americans that negatively, just inaccurately. Which considering the time period, there was a lot worse going on
lProN00bl 1 month ago
HIGH FIVE peter pan for doing wendy and her daughter
gizzod678 1 month ago 30
funny how they arent pissed that kids r smoking lol
thebuckrogers22 1 month ago 3
@thebuckrogers22 Remember it was 1953 when this came out it wasn't a big deal back then. Nowadays it would be the subject of censoring and controversy
allhailfrieza 1 month ago
@FourSquareEyes Look i'm not gonna argue with you on here of all places, Racism and stereotypes are interlinked they are called "racist stereotypes". If you deny that racist stereotypes exist then you are the narrow minded one, things like this video are products of their time and should be treated as such. The end.
KaydeyRai 1 month ago
@KaydeyRai
Actually, they're called racial stereotypes; despite what name society wishes to give them.
A racist stereotype would be a stereotype of a racist person, which can be well interlinked with racial stereotypes aswell (I never stated racism and stereotypes weren't linked - but they're very different).
FourSquareEyes 1 month ago
The first Coachella?
littlesmudge8743 1 month ago
@littlesmudge8743 There are so many ways to interpret that comment but I'm going to assume you meant "Hipsters in headdresses are !@#$ morons" and thumb you up.
lasaboteuse 1 month ago 3
Oh man you could SO not get away with this anymore... people are far too over-sensitive to any sort of racial or cultural generalization. Instead of learning to laugh at ourselves for our racial or cultural oddities and take it in humor, we take offense instead. :-(
nighthawk663 2 months ago
@nighthawk663 I guess it's unless if there is Native American involvement in the movie. This movie WAS made by a dominantly white group of people after all. But cultural inaccuracy aside, I like this song. :)
rYiOkUn 1 month ago
@nighthawk663 "Racial and cultural oddities"?
lasaboteuse 1 month ago
this should be enlightening!
that line had to be pure sarcasm lol
c130ace 2 months ago 2
to HELL with political correctness and racial sensativity...it's the 1950's dammit!!!
r0b0tj0n3s 2 months ago
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AnnMarieRogue 2 months ago
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@r0b0tj0n3s
Tell me about it. I dislike the fact that people are not smart enough to realize that this was made at a different time. We can not just get rid of movies just because their politically incorrect, because it would be denying that those prejudices existed. We need to remember in order to avoid it, if we don't remember we will fall back into the same pattern.
AnnMarieRogue 2 months ago
Little seeds of jealousy blossoming in the...where ever
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