Mosquito dies at full throttle, rudder separates

[gmccord1970]

solution to control surface security: pin your control surfaces in addition to CA'ing them. I stick T-pins in all of my surfaces or at least elevator and ailerons.

[jltaviation]

Great flying.. Throttle back a little and make sure those hinges have some glue on them... LOL.. Have fun....

[Jay18Jay]

Perfect song! This is the reason I don't get into model airplanes, or model anything.

[AKcharger]

on board camera was cool!

[rolfen]

Where is the onboard recording of the crash?

[C4xFilms]

The dislikes must be of sadness. RIP wooden wonder.

[wheelsdown1]

for the record, one of the reasons that it was made of wood was that carpenters all over the uk could make parts for the airframe, ship them to DeH where they would be bolted together, sort of early production line. And yes, they were awesomely fast too.

[Weibkoln]

@wheelsdown1

And wood doenst cost too many dimes!

Afcourse it also made it invincible on radar, the most german radars reacted on metal, and so wood is invincible, for the mosquitos germans needed something which can detect radio signals, but if the damned Mosquitos didnt have a radio, all the options were gone..

Which meens that they could only detect it visually, which aint that easy during night!!!

So the germans tried to build a type out of wood to, untill someone ended this operation.

[Weibkoln]

@wheelsdown1

The germans ended the production of their prototype wood fighter, (which they called MOSQUITO to!!!)

because the Germans refused to fly in a plane without radio, & a radio makes the plane vincible at radar...

So this german Mosquito would be just as good as the existing planes they allready had...

[w0rldwars123]

:(

[IWanneBeYourDog]

nice dog at 2:31 :-)

[googleisshittoss]

Bally Jerry Flak was accurate today!...We lost Ginger

[UsedToFly1]

welcome to a new episode of RC Aircrash Investigation

[dalejosef]

My understanding is that the Mosquitoes were made of wood in order to minimize their signature on German RADAR. Sort of an early "stealth bomber" if you will.

[Polaris543]

@dalejosef The wood was also a much better alternative to metal in terms of price which of course was in short supply. It also meant repairs were easier and faster

[BigDuke6ixx]

@dalejosef, it was made of wood because wood wasn't a strategic material and the company could build prototypes without any delay procuring raw materials. Also, because wood was being used, the Mossie could be built in the many furniture factories that would otherwise has been lain idle during the war. The German's had no functioning RADAR, so RADAR stealth wasn't an issue.

[iratecabbie]

@BigDuke6ixx hi big duke,, the germans did in fact have very good functioning radar throughout the entire war, this is proven by the fact that in 1941 the british launched operation "biting" during which our fledgling parachute regiment dropped on a german radar station and effectively nicked the radar for study. as for stealth factor--that would have been an after thought rather than a design aim.

[GodlessMartyr666]

@BigDuke6ixx the mosquito was also fast as all hell , superior multi role aircraft... it could outrun anything it couldnt destroy.

[dillman1999]

DID THE PIOLITS DIE! LOL

[craigwright1000]

I couldn't see the rudder separating and causing a crash like that. It looks like it was put into an accelerated stall IMHO.

[MisterWillie060]

@craigwright1000 Yep I agree. Even if the rudder separated in flight I don't think it would have entered an immediate spin like it did. Accelerated stall.

[TRASUPO]

Downed by a BF109.

[Taildragger2411]

OUCH! That looks expensive , But if money is no option go for it.

[blablupp77]

man, put ´RC´ in the f*ckin´ title

[killbilly069]

crash is at 1:57

[tomsriv]

Well produced video, I liked it.

Powered by Nitro you say? Next time put that fuel in a Reliant Robin it may be more fun.

[jimmyxx3]

That's a relaistic looking crash site, looks like a rough crash landing :P

[Kullg4r]

Did anyone else want to see a strafing run on that white van?

[SirDeanosity]

@Kullg4r Add a paint ball gun and the model is complete.

[gcarrolln368ab]

What type of camera did you use?

[LUCKYLOONIE]

Did rain have anything to do with it ? saw rain on the lens @ 1:21

[Charaht]

Ouch!!!!!

[blobby1972]

must have been gutted but the plane can be replaced it the pilots that are hard to find .

[MostlyRCparkfliers]

Enjoyed your video. Sry about the crash.

[miltonluvsno1]

It died, RIP pilots.

[FailedSquare]

where is the on-board video of the crash? -_-

[hhohydrogen]

crash is at 2.00

[sovietluigi]

hoyyy, that thing literally went belly up....

[HackLover007]

1:57 for eager people

[pete2778]

A few cocktail sticks glued through the rudder hinges then trimmed flush should be enough to stop this happening to your next one, personally I'd electrify it to minimise the chances of an engine going sick but that's just personal taste. It really was a lovely looking, well finished model.

[Decoded69]

Thats sweet !! I want one, I bet landing these suckers is tough.

[yammo12]

What a pity i know the feeling good luck whit the new one

[Tabby266]

It was shot down by the ghosts of the German AAA that had probably done that to a few REAL Mosquitos a few times...

[davidrodgersNJ]

Could you see the view from the onboard camera while you were flying it, or only afterwards?

[philip0072]

used to be into all that now Im selling every thing

[KamikazeElvis]

That's a real shame, you must have been gutted. Anyone who flies models has got to be prepared to lose their aircraft, because it happens. I've lost ten!

[Jigaboo123456]

Sorry about your Mossie- -I love ww2 aircraft, especially the innovative ones, I've done some flying, but not with models. I appreciate you would not have known at the time, but I wonder if juggling the engines and using the ailerons secondary effect yaw would given you enough control to land --probably not, but maybe if the rudder had come off completely?

It was amazing the damage full-scale mossies could take.

[hr2pilot]

Guys.....fly your warbirds at scale speed....they are scale airplanes, so throttle back a bit....they will look better, they will sound better, it will give you more time to relax and enjoy the flight, and help you avoid bringing them home in a garbage bag. This airplane was probably flying twice scale speed.

[Crashman2]

@hr2pilot Well, I wouldn't say they were "flying warbirds", they were just standing around with a little radio box- but we 30-yr licensed pilots are like that. I Respect you RC guys, but PLEEZE tag or title 'em "RC". Makes for better coexistence. There ARE no REAL flying Mosquitos left. A twin-design FASTER than a P-51D Mustang! Even ME-262s had a hard time climbing fast enough to catch up to them at altitude...a WW2 U-2 in recon version, PLUS she could carry thousand-pounders to Berlin!

[Factnotfictionpeople]

@hr2pilot You have a good point! :-)

[GrafixPD]

What a great plane!

Too bad the video brought all the "experts" out of the woodwork though!

Good luck on you next Mossie!

[djindivik]

That was a high speed stall, & was NOT caused by the rudder separating. Or rudder flutter, or aileron flutter.

Throttling back & calmly re assesing the situation, could have saved this model.

[ChunkyNormus]

as in excessive elevator at high speed initiating a spin ? (agreed this is really fast flying for such a plane)

how do you know it's not flutter or rudder sep'n? i can't see it very well.

[unclesara]

Flutter?

[buzz60016]

A beautiful model.

RC flying is not easy - Many things can go wrong.

A beautiful build - great flying

Thank you for posting, I enjoyed the video.

Sorry for the crash, it happens.

[Gruntol5]

That yellow labrador looks very cuddlesome.

[cshak32]

tip stall.

[wrjstuka]

oh man that sucks beautiful plane love that twin sound ! good and safe flying ol chap i hope you have better luck next time aj mykyver over and out

[Epochofbelief]

Pin those hinges!

[dkjens0705]

I hope you are pinning those hinges now, for good peace of mind LOL. Sorry for your loss, they all have an expiration date.

[BOYCOT4YT]

more Balsa wood please!

[YakAV8R]

I don't know why everyone is blaming the rudder prematurely seperating as the cause of the crash? Why can't the rudder have seperated from the vertical fin upon contact with the ground? Look at how the aircraft came to rest? I would look more closely at the video...pilot error may have had a hand in it's demise.

[roadro2010]

wooo..!,

[srxplayer]

Sorry to see that. Alot of work goes into those things.

[Gilabolshoibooze]

love the dog, it looks concerned, kind of sharing the feelings for the lost plane.

[covercalls]

Sorry to see your plane go down, it looked great in the air. It seems all ARFs manufactures never mention pinning the control surfaces. Combined with the lack of quality and material from the manufactures control control surface failure rates are rather high. I've been flying (sometimes crashing) RC for about 38 years and I have learned many lesson the hard way. I know you get it back in the air again. Good Luck.

[NVanWendy]

Took the words out of my mouth! Pin those control surfaces! Or, I HOPE you did since this was posted years ago.

(I only watch the planes but I've made models and props for a living all my life.)

[BROOKS39]

Oooops...

[kakabukkake0]

haha good music for such a bad crash

[berlinmitte10117]

Bugger indeed. Poor Sea Mosquito :(

[olivrig83]

poor mossie....

[biggdaddy2001]

shuda used proper amount of glue hey gives u a chance to make it better

[iloverush123]

Fuselage seems good for a rebuild.

[nolifemerc]

did the crew survive

[Stover36]

I don't think that an RC plane has crew

[xrimerx]

yer i have to agree the onboard camera is well good!!! shame all that time effort and cash hit the floor so hard though.

[nevlover]

unlucky great footage though hopefully the next one will work fine:)

[Stratboy999]

Fabulous shots from on board, really enjoyed it...up to the point where it got totalled. Then I felt gutted for you. Ah well, here's to the next one!

[mjkobb]

Damn, that sucks. I had that happen (except with an aileron clevis) to an R/C model myself, and it didn't end well, either.

I agree with the other poster who liked how the plane sounded electric!

[fetufab]

Bugger!

[rossmum]

At least the fuselage aft of the cockpit seems to have survived relatively intact.

She's not a write-off yet!

[BerlinBunker1]

Damn shame, beautiful model "Mossie"

As for the dimwit comments from that piece of crap from the U.S.Ghetto "The Cotton Top", he certainly does not know anything about the D.H.Mosquito. He should stick to his hip hop and gangsta rap, and his home boys down at the local White Castle.

[TheCottonTop]

Well it was a flimzy wood heap in the war. Nothings change. Sounds Great, electric. I can't believe it. realy nice model.

[bhainarts]

"Well it was a flimzy wood heap in the war. Nothings change."

You know nothing about the Mosquito obviously. You are an idiot. Stick to playing with toys

[p51Dvswhateverthatis]

It was a flimzy wood heap? It was a very innovative idea for a surplus of wood and a lack of metal. When Great Britain needed an aircraft that used less steel. This was constructed by the best craftsmen in the world, the fastest and the best fighter/bomber ever created! Also this plane saved many people in a prison camp by precisely bombing the wall down while killing only the prison guards. If you say it was a flimzy wood heap, then Germany feared most this piece of timber! HOW DARE YOU! *SLAP*

[MegaBrits]

Spot on my friend... It was faster than any fighter in ww2 could carry the same bomb load as a B-17 without all the bulk and has a colossal ceiling. The mosquito could fly so fast and so high the Germans for a long time couldnt even intercept it.

The P-51 was a British inspired aeroplane VTW, NA went to Britain and Germany to get design modern ideas and the P-51 was named mustang by Britain after they gave it a great engine, Ferranti Gyro gun sight, spitty canopy and used flush rivets.

[lay3Rv2]

@p51Dvswhateverthatis I saw that episode too;however, it wasn't the fastest fighter/bomber ever. There were faster fighter bombers in ww2, and obviously there are faster fighter bombers with the rise of the jet age.

[nolifemerc]

@p51Dvswhateverthatis dont forgett 2 rolls merlin engines.

[mosquito1958]

@p51Dvswhateverthatis I agree with you Dvswhateverthatis, you Know that teh Luftwaffe Command allowed the thier pilots to claim 2 kills to count toward thier score if theu could shoot down a Mosquito it was that feared by them.

[Olysk8er]

@p51Dvswhateverthatis I assume you're talking about OP: Jericho? Where of the 717 prisoners, 102 were killed, 74 wounded, and 258 escaped, including 79 French resistance and political prisoners, but about two thirds of those who escaped were recaptured within a few days.

[p51Dvswhateverthatis]

@Olysk8er Yeah, I was going to try replying with a video and saw a few of my facts were off. Still this was a precise bombing maneuver that was incredible compared to normal bombing tactics that would have otherwise flattened the prison site. (Excluding dive bombing)

Besides that fact you can't blame the plane for failing this mission for it failed during the evacuation from the ground. It was risky and bound to fail, but was still worth trying and the mosquito performed it's task beautifully.

[CapnCrossbones]

@p51Dvswhateverthatis There is a Pilot in our town that was just inducted in the Canadian Aviation hall of fame. He flew Mosquito and was shot down. Amazingly he survived with most of his body burned and not recognizable. Fortunately at the time they were just first testing the earliest forms of Plastic surgery and you can hardly tell when you see him in person. His name was Stan Reynolds and he owns the Reynolds Alberta Museum in Wetaskiwin Alberta. The stories he told me were amazing! cheers:)

[Madnessrule24]

you are obviously american and therefore think that all things british are crap. The mosquito was the fastest bomber of ww2 and was the only allied aircraft of carrying large guns designed to devastate small boats and u boats

[paulflyer]

Not for nothing,.. but some B-25s carried a modified anti aircraft gun where the barrel was below the flight crew and was reloaded in the bomb bay. The Mosquito was a fine airplane.. but i am sure the Mosquito could not fly with that gun installed.

[Madnessrule24]

it could acually, a few shots from the gun and u-boats wouldn't work very well. There was even plans to install an even bigger 3.7 inch gun based on the AA variant. For more info look up 'tsetse mosquito'

[paulflyer]

I looked up tsetse Mosquito and found it to have a 57MM cannon. The cannon I refered to on the B-25H model was 75MM (2.95"). The B-25H was to have a bigger gun as well but was cancelled due to impacticality. I guess it is true, size is not everything... :)

[modelleg]

man that thing was haulin' the mail!

[F4FPhantomII]

That's why you should always pin your hinges.

[lunmad]

gutted for you! and it was going great.

[HansThunderbolt]

A rudder separation will not cause the plane to start spinning or lose control!

Guess that was post crash.

Crash cause? radio? receiver battery?

[ArtyEffem]

This is a twin and the rudder would have been offsetting the difference between the thrust of the two engines; a sudden loss of rudder would have meant an unrecoverable loss of directional trim.

Throttle+rudder mixing could possibly help in these situations.

[pwr2back2]

your comment is sufficient info for me to guess your experience level. If you and others like you , are that stupid....why submit a written comment thus proving it ?

Sort of like suggesting that had the builder constructed a stronger wing...it woldn't have crashed . After all - they were also "detached" .

Get a life.

[ArtyEffem]

@ pwr2back2

Nobody with real experience of constructing model aircraft from scratch would (or did) disagree with what I said.

Watch my lips cretin and maybe it'll penetrate your skull this time: RETAINING CONTROL SURFACE HINGES SOLELY WITH GLUE IS INSUFFICIENT TO GUARANTEE THEIR INTEGRITY. THEY HAVE TO BE PEGGED IN PLACE USING THE HOLES THE MANUFACTURER PROVIDED FOR THE PURPOSE.

What's your next RTF model going to be? Let's hope it comes with instructions for opening the box...

[pwr2back2]

Just to clarify - I reread your input and it is your view that had the rudder remained attached (( it was Cretin )) the accident would not have occured . WRONG !

The holes the manufacturer "provided" in those hinges you so insightfully underline, are there for adhesion purposes . The is NO question that pinning is an added guarantee .

I'll stand by my initial response and note that you proved your stupidity .

'Nuff said .

[ArtyEffem]

@pwr2back2

'The holes the manufacturer "provided" in those hinges you so insightfully underline, are there for adhesion purposes . '

I'd be careful to whom you say that; these days people can sue for bad advice.

I'm content to know that the cognoscente on here knows who's right and who has demonstrated their stupidity.

[tutor4011]

i loved that tutor40 in the back of the van

[skysurferuk]

Know that one, got the t-shirt!

[Jyllenberg]

@1:48 it sounded like the thing was supercharged :)

[leadsolo]

Great flying Bro ... but these things happen in this hobby we love - Glad U kept the faith and got another one ... more great vids please :3)

[CutByAngels]

ouch?

[LeoBullterrier]

Its a terrible shame but like the old saying what goes up must come down dam that gravity.

[3outatfeht]

your a great driver unfortunate for mosquito though. were did u get the kit?!?!?!?!?

[Carlovingjosh]

powered by electric or petrol? cheers

[MajorSterling]

Nitromethane. 2 x OS46 MAX. regards, Phillip

[Carlovingjosh]

Ah, thanks. And what do you mean by 'more mosquito' arrived the next day?

Thanks

[MajorSterling]

If I creash a model I like, I go right out and buy another like it:)

[Carlovingjosh]

Dnt you mean create? Lol only kiddin it doesnt matter. Thanks for replying, and nice piloting. I've also seen your Spit, excellent skills! =D

[edj66]

@MajorSterling Which Mosquito kit is it?

[MajorSterling]

@edj66 It's a CM Pro kit. Perkins Distribution does them out of the UK. They should be widely available. - The Major

[hoplite46]

@MajorSterling sorry that this happens its gutting I know

[philip2277]

@edj66 ask your local model shop or have a look on here or some model books

[loht773]

Nice video, what tyoe of camera did you installed in the rc mosquito?, and how did you do that?.

Cheers!

[MajorSterling]

It's a very lightweight digital. Not the greatest quality but it does OK.

[Tony1960x]

I feel sorry for the little pilot, poor little sod

[iKinDesigns]

2:25, nice legs. Hope their from a woman. :D

[guitardode]

send for the superglu!!

[coltom]

I guess the crew bailed out and is being held in a model POW camp somewhere in Germany -

[BerlinBunker1]

Gravity wins again.

[nyrel12]

ooops!

[minou123]

from where do u get all the metal and parts to build it ?

[MajorSterling]

These models usually come as kits, although many modelers scratch-build. The kit takes about 10 days to build and you have to buy in the engines, servos, receiver, etc. The plane itself is built from ply, balsa and covered with a durable plastic sheeting. You can find out more at kentflightschool dot com.

[ArtyEffem]

Ten days plus those few extra minutes needed to make the little holes in the trailing edges and control surfaces, that line-up with those holes provided in the hinges. Then you insert the hinge in the slot and push toothpicks through the holes to secure them permanently.

If on your hinges you use glue,

The loss of your plane you will rue,

If with 'toothpicks' they're held in place,

You'll suffer no airborne disgrace.

[odiemademedoit]

Dude, nice plane, not so good flight. Good luck next time

[powerman2442]

So you assembled and painted? If so good job looked great. Better luck with your next one. This is electric right? Sounded like gas because of how loud it was btu that could have been from two motors.

[MajorSterling]

No, they're two .46 i/c OS motors. The new one flies great!

[powerman2442]

Nice, I have nitro trucks and an electric plane but I still have yet to fly it. Heh.

[StarTux]

Any new footage of this new one?

[MajorSterling]

Nah, the weather's been rubbish. Got a nice Spit we've just done a film on. Also building a really tasty YT Typhoon and FW-190.

[xpdnc12]

That's a beautiful plane. Who is the manufacturer? Thanks for posting.

[MajorSterling]

China Models does the kit now. I believe Inwoodmodels dot co dot uk does them. J Perkins Distribution does them also.

[33Hz]

What was the small (540/550 sized?) electric motor seen in the crash remains for...?

[MajorSterling]

There was no small electric motor. Probably just some motor-looking debris!

[flightsuit]

Although it hurts to see a work of art destroyed, at least the crash resulted in this video, which does have artistic qualities of its own. I was especially taken with the music at the end. What song is that, and who's the artist? It's so refreshing to see an r/c flight video that doesn't have that awful Top Gun song for a soundtrack!

[MajorSterling]

The music is by a south London band called Morcheeba. The Mossie is immortalised and its Ground Zero will always hold a special place in my heart.

[AlexTrc]

Nice Plane, just a question, when you installed the OS 46 did you get a problem with the size of engine space? or it was exactly to that zise, the requeriments say that it was for 28-32..

[MajorSterling]

Yes I did. Originally I had Saito 56's in there but it was underpowered, believe it or not. The OS 46 MAX's are excellent and I have reinstalled them in the new one. There is a cowl problem so you do have some space between spinner and cowl. Thing is, the plane goes so fast you don't notice it :)

[MajorSterling]

Yup.

[LIVERPOOLSCOTTISH]

Major-Sorry to see your Mozzie literally 'buy the farm,'if you'll excuse the bad pun! Hope your new bird is success! Beautiful bird the Mosquito-very fast indeed. Are you a fan of Paddy Maine by any chance?! Did you 'Beat the clock' yourself?

[MajorSterling]

Nay, but someone close did. New Mossie will be ready to go just as soon as I get back from Oz.

[royzee]

BTW is your YT name an allusion to the SAS founder, David Stirling?

[royzee]

Interesting. I have mixed feelings about anything to do with Mossie crashes. Used to love that plane at airshows and have loads of books on it, etc. To see one crash is painful.

[DicknGina]

was a hot plane, investigate rudder flutter...

[MajorSterling]

The rudder separated on the hinges. Bad gluing on my part.Have already built the replacement plane and looking forward to flying it (in Australia at present). Stay tuned!

[1dante2]

I want to see the in flight view of the crash!!

[MajorSterling]

The footage was damaged in the crash. We recovered the other bits with difficulty. Am building a replacement Mossie for another go, so watch this space!

[brettknox]

Agreed. The plane should of survived a rudder seraration inflight. I don't think it was planned, though.

[mrexon]

the rudder was post impact, it looked like it was planned though, there are guys that do it as a crash hobby,but most of them make there plains from scratch

[Jtedac]

sucks