Book of Mormon True? Which one? How do you know? What about the internal contradictions? How about the stuff that never existed? How about the false prophesies? Where is the proof?
Members can help the suffering of flood victims in Pakistan and in other troubled regions of the world "by contributing to the humanitarian fund and praying for the people."
Adams said about their joint 1953 Life assignment to shoot Mormon towns in Utah: "We shared the work in a rather obvious way. She concentrated on the people
Greatest gifts: What are "God's Greatest Gifts"? In an upcoming book and accompanying blog, Devan Jensen explores this very question. He realized "It finally dawned on me that all the gifts of God might collectively be called the greatest -- much like a 'greatest hits' album by a favorite artist." Some of the gifts include the gift of life, the gift of forgiveness and the gift of the Holy Ghost. And yet he still focuses one post on "The Greatest of All Gifts."
I found a lot of hidden (at least to me) examples there of how to handle situations that come up in life. I blog about them once a week on Sunday. I choose one scripture from my list and write my thoughts about what His example in that verse means to me." And the result? The beautiful blog about what Jesus did. Let her insights help you become a better follower of Jesus Christ.
Jesus did: Lorrie Overson wrote "I was struggling with what it meant to follow Jesus' example because of the changes I need to make in my life...so I read the New Testament and made notes of everything Jesus actually did.
British history: Take "a gentle stroll through LDS Britain" with blog author Peter Fagg as your guide (he actually is a tour guide in real life). With facts, sources and photos, Fagg marvelously brings the little-known LDS British history to life. Lately, he has found connections to the life of John Taylor. For example, learn about his "Boyhood in England." And there is much more. This is a delightful and informative site for anyone interested in British-LDS historical or genealogical connection
Most of the kids in my school's choral group were not Christians and did BEAUTIFUL renditions of carols during the holidays. Singing a song makes you NO WHERE near a believer.
This is all ridiculous. Mormons are NOT Christians, folks.
Just a thought, did you know the word "Christian" is actually not even found anywhere in the Holy Bible anywhere. If you can find it anywhere please show me. That said, members of the Church of Jesus Christ base all of their teachings on the Jesus Christ of the Old and New Testament so if that isn't a follower of Christ I do not know what is. Thanks for taking time to post this and God bless.
((continuing from last post))"And Christianity, at the present time, is no more enlightened than other systems have been. what does the christian world know about God? Nothing; yet these very men assume the right and power to tell others what they shall and what they shall not believe in. Why, so far as the things of God are concerned, they are the veriest fools; they know neither God nor the things of God."(John Taylor, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 13, page 225)
The Journal of Discourses is not anti mormon it is the mormon prophets preaching there doctrine so how can a mormon person call there self christian when there prophets say things like this in the Journal of Discourses???????"The transactions of men are even more outrageous against the Lord,
and the only excuse for them is their
ignorance.What! are Christians
ignorant? Yes, as ignorant of the
things of God as the brute beast."( John Taylor, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, page 25)
America's Choir can best answer this question... <----- news flash they are not America's Choir, they are the Choir of your father satan. False prophet Joseph Smith.
Hate to tell you, singing a song doesn't make you a Christian. (lol) If I start rapping some gangsta rap, that doesn't make me a gangsta. Mormons aren't Christians!
ahburner... do Mormons believe in a Triune Godhead... that is that the Father, the Son, and the Spirit are three divine persons who are one divine being (God).
Mormons in the traditional pre-Nicene creed terms are subordinationists: a doctrine which means that Jesus and/or the Holy Ghost are 'subordinate' or 'subject' to God the Father. In subordinationism, Jesus must be a separate being from the Father, because you can't be subject to yourself! This was the orthodox position before the Nicean council. Ideas that were once orthodox were later considered unacceptable after the councils altered and added to the doctrine.
it also seems to me you can't have it both ways ... you say mormons believe Jesus is a separate Being from the Father, but then you answer "yes" to believing that the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are One... can you elaborate on that for me?
The Son and the Holy Ghost are one God being subordinate to the Father. In the same sense we also are subordinate to Jesus Christ of Nazarteth and can be "joint heirs with him" of the Father's kingdom. The Father, Son and Holy Spirit are one (one: Greek neutral vs masculine). The Bible in the original Greek while saying the godhead is one, the word "one" is neutral not masculine, meaning one in purpose. See John 17: The Intercessory Prayer
we are subordinate to Him because He is God... He is the Creator while we are the created... and speaking of which, do you believe that Jesus has existed from the beginning, along with the Father and the Holy SPirit?
we are "joint heirs" only in the sense that we are "brothers and sisters" to Jesus... so we can aspire to enjoy the Beatific Vision
but along these same lines...does your faith believe that Jesus was conceived by God the Father, which is contradictory to Holy Scripture?
Jesus is the only begotten of the Father in the flesh, the firstborn of the resurrection, conceived by the Holy Ghost (Spirit); being first with the Father before the world was: there he was pre-ordained to fulfill his mission on the cross to save humanity so that we also might become like the Father and the Son. Through the Lord of Nazareth, God created the universe so all things were made by and through him. He was given authority from his Father to act in his name, he is perfect and my God.
I agree that we are "joint heirs" only in the sense of being born again as children of God and a brother of the Lord. As Jesus also said, "Ye are gods...children of the most high" (John 10). Also the Son and Holy Spirit (Mormons make no distinction between Spirit and Ghost) existed with the Father in the beginning. Unlike most Christians Mormons do not support the Ex nihilo "out of nothing everything was created" notion, rather we believe that the Godhead has always existed and always will.
The LDS church waivers from teaching the bible alone and denies essential Christian doctrine (1 God, nature of Jesus, salvation by grace alone). Christians are considered the church. Mormons are not included in the body of Christ. Mormons are NOT just another Christian denomination! The LDS church is a dangerous counterfeit religion. Mormons profess Christ, but deny Him with their extrabiblical false doctrine and by following their false prophets! Joseph Smith was a fraud!
The worst part of LDS is that it disguises it's lies under "sacred, not secret" things you can't learn until you're too far in. So people are lead astray because it sounds so similar, because THEY DON' T TELL YOU THE TRUTH. Mishies don't tell you about their rejection of the trinity, or their masonic rituals, or that you have to be married to get into the "highest" level of heaven...
Christianity - one God
LDS - many gods
Christianity - God is Spirit
LDS - God has a physical body
Christianity - God is eternal
LDS - God was created
rickgigliotti 1 year ago
Jesus Christ
Christianity - only begotten son of God
LDS - first of many sons
rickgigliotti 1 year ago
Christianity - no human preexistence
LDS - humans preexisted as spirit beings
Christianity - humans cannot become gods
LDS - humans can become gods
rickgigliotti 1 year ago
Christianity - God created from nothing
LDS - God organizes existing matter
rickgigliotti 1 year ago
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Book of Mormon True? Which one? How do you know? What about the internal contradictions? How about the stuff that never existed? How about the false prophesies? Where is the proof?
rickgigliotti 1 year ago
How You Can Help
Members can help the suffering of flood victims in Pakistan and in other troubled regions of the world "by contributing to the humanitarian fund and praying for the people."
omiolo 1 year ago
Adams said about their joint 1953 Life assignment to shoot Mormon towns in Utah: "We shared the work in a rather obvious way. She concentrated on the people
omiolo 1 year ago
A call for Mormon Democrats to throw their hats in the ring
omiolo 2 years ago
Greatest gifts: What are "God's Greatest Gifts"? In an upcoming book and accompanying blog, Devan Jensen explores this very question. He realized "It finally dawned on me that all the gifts of God might collectively be called the greatest -- much like a 'greatest hits' album by a favorite artist." Some of the gifts include the gift of life, the gift of forgiveness and the gift of the Holy Ghost. And yet he still focuses one post on "The Greatest of All Gifts."
omiolo 2 years ago
I found a lot of hidden (at least to me) examples there of how to handle situations that come up in life. I blog about them once a week on Sunday. I choose one scripture from my list and write my thoughts about what His example in that verse means to me." And the result? The beautiful blog about what Jesus did. Let her insights help you become a better follower of Jesus Christ.
omiolo 2 years ago
Jesus did: Lorrie Overson wrote "I was struggling with what it meant to follow Jesus' example because of the changes I need to make in my life...so I read the New Testament and made notes of everything Jesus actually did.
omiolo 2 years ago
British history: Take "a gentle stroll through LDS Britain" with blog author Peter Fagg as your guide (he actually is a tour guide in real life). With facts, sources and photos, Fagg marvelously brings the little-known LDS British history to life. Lately, he has found connections to the life of John Taylor. For example, learn about his "Boyhood in England." And there is much more. This is a delightful and informative site for anyone interested in British-LDS historical or genealogical connection
omiolo 2 years ago
Oh, so singing a song makes you a christian.
eielsonhigh50 3 years ago 2
Yes
ahburner 3 years ago
Most of the kids in my school's choral group were not Christians and did BEAUTIFUL renditions of carols during the holidays. Singing a song makes you NO WHERE near a believer.
This is all ridiculous. Mormons are NOT Christians, folks.
JAMaddict 2 years ago
yes, one song and you are Christian! It sure beats ATTACKING the Mormons.
omiolo 2 years ago
My point was that saying something and doing that thing are completely different.
eielson50 2 years ago
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Just a thought, did you know the word "Christian" is actually not even found anywhere in the Holy Bible anywhere. If you can find it anywhere please show me. That said, members of the Church of Jesus Christ base all of their teachings on the Jesus Christ of the Old and New Testament so if that isn't a follower of Christ I do not know what is. Thanks for taking time to post this and God bless.
pangeanet 3 years ago
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The Journal of Discourses is not anti mormon it is the mormon prophets preaching there doctrine so how can a mormon person call there self christian when there prophets say things like this in the Journal of Discourses???????"The transactions of men are even more outrageous against the Lord,
and the only excuse for them is their
ignorance.What! are Christians
ignorant? Yes, as ignorant of the
things of God as the brute beast."( John Taylor, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, page 25)
Ilegalplayer 3 years ago
America's Choir can best answer this question... <----- news flash they are not America's Choir, they are the Choir of your father satan. False prophet Joseph Smith.
masterofzion 3 years ago
Morons are NOT Christians, they are False prophets.
masterofzion 3 years ago
Hate to tell you, singing a song doesn't make you a Christian. (lol) If I start rapping some gangsta rap, that doesn't make me a gangsta. Mormons aren't Christians!
n1kester 3 years ago
LOL, yes it does... I know it doesn't. You should take a look at what we believe. Thanks for the comment!
ahburner 3 years ago
ahburner... do Mormons believe in a Triune Godhead... that is that the Father, the Son, and the Spirit are three divine persons who are one divine being (God).
faithful827 3 years ago
Mormons in the traditional pre-Nicene creed terms are subordinationists: a doctrine which means that Jesus and/or the Holy Ghost are 'subordinate' or 'subject' to God the Father. In subordinationism, Jesus must be a separate being from the Father, because you can't be subject to yourself! This was the orthodox position before the Nicean council. Ideas that were once orthodox were later considered unacceptable after the councils altered and added to the doctrine.
Thanks for asking.
ahburner 3 years ago
i'd sure love to see some valid documentation of that "orthodox position" befoe Nicea... got a site i can go to to read what it has to say?
faithful827 3 years ago
en . wikipedia . org / wiki / Subordinationist
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ahburner 3 years ago
Yes
ahburner 3 years ago
it also seems to me you can't have it both ways ... you say mormons believe Jesus is a separate Being from the Father, but then you answer "yes" to believing that the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are One... can you elaborate on that for me?
faithful827 3 years ago
The Son and the Holy Ghost are one God being subordinate to the Father. In the same sense we also are subordinate to Jesus Christ of Nazarteth and can be "joint heirs with him" of the Father's kingdom. The Father, Son and Holy Spirit are one (one: Greek neutral vs masculine). The Bible in the original Greek while saying the godhead is one, the word "one" is neutral not masculine, meaning one in purpose. See John 17: The Intercessory Prayer
ahburner 3 years ago
we are subordinate to Him because He is God... He is the Creator while we are the created... and speaking of which, do you believe that Jesus has existed from the beginning, along with the Father and the Holy SPirit?
we are "joint heirs" only in the sense that we are "brothers and sisters" to Jesus... so we can aspire to enjoy the Beatific Vision
but along these same lines...does your faith believe that Jesus was conceived by God the Father, which is contradictory to Holy Scripture?
faithful827 3 years ago
Jesus is the only begotten of the Father in the flesh, the firstborn of the resurrection, conceived by the Holy Ghost (Spirit); being first with the Father before the world was: there he was pre-ordained to fulfill his mission on the cross to save humanity so that we also might become like the Father and the Son. Through the Lord of Nazareth, God created the universe so all things were made by and through him. He was given authority from his Father to act in his name, he is perfect and my God.
ahburner 3 years ago
I agree that we are "joint heirs" only in the sense of being born again as children of God and a brother of the Lord. As Jesus also said, "Ye are gods...children of the most high" (John 10). Also the Son and Holy Spirit (Mormons make no distinction between Spirit and Ghost) existed with the Father in the beginning. Unlike most Christians Mormons do not support the Ex nihilo "out of nothing everything was created" notion, rather we believe that the Godhead has always existed and always will.
ahburner 3 years ago
@faithful827 oh and where was the holy spirit sitting ,at jehovahs left ?
georgeeboy2222 1 year ago
The LDS church waivers from teaching the bible alone and denies essential Christian doctrine (1 God, nature of Jesus, salvation by grace alone). Christians are considered the church. Mormons are not included in the body of Christ. Mormons are NOT just another Christian denomination! The LDS church is a dangerous counterfeit religion. Mormons profess Christ, but deny Him with their extrabiblical false doctrine and by following their false prophets! Joseph Smith was a fraud!
johnyjamie 3 years ago
The worst part of LDS is that it disguises it's lies under "sacred, not secret" things you can't learn until you're too far in. So people are lead astray because it sounds so similar, because THEY DON' T TELL YOU THE TRUTH. Mishies don't tell you about their rejection of the trinity, or their masonic rituals, or that you have to be married to get into the "highest" level of heaven...
IT'S A CULT!!!
JAMaddict 2 years ago
Yes and YES!
JosephSmith1806 3 years ago