Vestas Wind Systems - Promotional Video

[s6u6r6f6]

garbage in...garbage out...

in the 7 months since I last posted...NOTHING has been saved by the use of this antiquated technology. The biggest waste of money, taxes land time effort and education the world has ever seen. No improvement since the REA of the 1930s except for size. More size more problems. One of these things burning is an environmental nightmare....and baby dothey ever burn nice. You junk scientist should stick your fingers in that ubiquetous grid youre always talking about...

[mjdurack]

Does this help

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[graham640]

I AM PRESUMING THE 17 DISLIKES ARE GAS AND FOSSIL FUEL LOVERS GOOD TO SEE LIKES OUT WAY THEM IVE WATCHED THIS 3 TIMES GOOD VIDEO LOVELY MUSIC AS WELL

[graham640]

THESE ARE MAGNIFICENT MACHINES AND IM OFTEN AMAZED BY THEM IN IRELAND WE HAVE SOME BUT NOT AS MANY AS WE SHOULD APPERENTLY THEY ARE NOT COST EFFECTIVE AND WILL ONLY MEET SOME OF OUR ENERGY NEEDS ITS JUST AN EXCUSE FOR US NOT TO BUILD THEM BECAUSE WE ARE BROKE NO GRANTS CAN EVEN GET CONNECTED TO THE GRID BECAUSE ESB IRELAND WONT LET THEM ALSO A SHORTAGE OF 400,000 KV LINES SUCH A PITY AND IT UNLIKELY WE WILL SEE ANY IN THE NEXT 10 YEARS

[diskofil868686]

Keep up the great work!



[jeepman038]

antiquated technology look for vertical turbine ----thats the future

[Bboy8989]

Yeeah, It's great! Thanks!

[altazoriano]

Anyone knows the name of the music from 4,05?

[nikos833]

Belle le turbine della vestas.

[s6u6r6f6]

Junk science...not even science...its garbage Mechanics. NOTHING has been improved on the wind turbine since 1930 but SIZE.

this is the epitomy of the mindless green mentality of the environmentalist. a WASTE of money. A WASTE of space, a WASTE of engineering...the most expensive BACKWARD technology since the electric car. AND it saves the consumer NOTHING, NADA, ZILCH...you PAY to put this shit up on pastures, firlds and hillsides...making all of it a useless study in WASTE.>

[oasisexpat]

@s6u6r6f6 You are an idiot...

[ultimazer1]

@oasisexpat: well, maybe he'll understand at some point in his life ;) ...some people need more time than others to get a grip on things ;)

[neilylad37]

@s6u6r6f6

I bet you drive a 5 litre truck gas guzzler AND work in oil. this energy is clean and free with virtually no environmental impact. unlike oil and its massif accidents spills and pollution so lets go on burning fossil fuels then, sod the environmment or theres nuclear power, oh yes thats safe ask the japanees. Do some research red neck

[graham640]

@neilylad37 I AGREE WITH ALL OF WHAT YOU SAY BUT WE WILL RUN OUT OF FOSSIL FUEL PEOPLE WILL STOP AND THINK THEN BY THAT TIME IT WILL BE TO LATE

[jentify]

at 3:26 is probably a water crane that will put the towers in the water

[jentify]

I think it's cool to see a bunch of these! If I had one in my yard I would save so much on my electricity lol

[ccook1981]

by code in canada they have to be 400m away from any home

[GhOsTRiDeROwN]

WTF at 3:26

[sonick808]

In summary (and my final comment): the new, SMALL nuclear plants in a strategic, partial-mesh array are proven to have 0 safety risk due to the small amount of material. The max output per plant is 50 megawatts. Placed strategically, this is the only viable solution for the insatiable electricity use including future growth. We also need to upgrade delivery. Anyone who is against feeding the grid must decide between electricity, and going back to the dark ages. Your choice. Signing off..

[revhard05]

Small is a relative word, what do you mean by small?

[sonick808]

The max size is usually 50Mw. They are modular, fast setup, modern (no archaic manuals or incidents requiring engineers to fly in from overseas), simple, and reliable. Further, the EPZ (protection zone) in case of incident is: ZERO feet! They can contain ANY incident because of their comparatively tiny size. Whereas the EPZ for the old HUGE plants was tens of miles, at least 30 if i remember correctly according NRC. These new, small reactors are made by NuScale and others, check 'em out.

[sonick808]

The delivery infrastructure is also in need of upgrade, BAD.

Certainly more in need of overhaul than healthcare, that's for damn sure.

Can't get any public option MRI's if there's no electricity.

[sonick808]

Caveat; the politicians may require a small EPZ due to perception of the sheeple. The science, however, shows you can run one of these safely all the way to the limits right in your backyard. Nuscale even makes some that are portable!

Check out nuscale's website, they are pushing hard if you read the news section. We have no other choice. People need to STOP picturing 3 mile island, when these are no bigger than a house.

[smashthefash2]

REDUNDANCY PAY FOR THE 11 SACKED WORKERS WHO OCCUPIED VESTAS ON THE IOW.

More Wind Turbines, More Green Jobs!

[LongliveAtaTurkiye]

wellcome to Turkey, Vestas

[GraemeMurphy]

Reinstate the 11 workers sacked for occupying the IOW plant trying to save their green jobs manufacturing wind turbine blades.

[zipzooka]

can i ask why every post with positive comments have been bumped down as bad replys?

this is the way forward. its narrow minded people who think its not! or maybe they would just prefer to live near nuclear stations instead! idiots!

[GraemeMurphy]

Had a block put on planning permission for a wind farm in my area unless it uses non-Vesta's turbines. Solidarity with the Isle Of Wight workers. We will cost you dearly as the fight will go on forever.

We will not roll over on this one.

[mainbrainwayne]

whats your arguement against vestas? im sure youve educated yourself in the production of wind energy right? then you already know that vestas is the largest manufacturer of turbines and every turbine in the world can be clean and self contained as long as they are maintained. regular service keeps 98% productivity makig energy for you at between 4 and 6 cents a kilowatt. go learn to be a technician and help progress like me and quit holding it up. once again quit being simple minded.

[zipzooka]

i dont think there is any proof that these turbines making you ill!! coinceidence that in some areas people have become ill, whats to say that they wouldn't have become ill if the turbines hadn't have been installed? I work on the North Hoyle and Rhyl Flats Offshore windfarm's and know people who have been working there for years and they are fine. This and tidal generators are the way to go. It creates jobs and its clean.

[kdc43]

I now realize where all this wind is coming from. It's these Giant Fans going up everywhere!! I bet it's these commie-alqada terrorists! They turn these fans on "High" and blow up some wind storms, tornados and hurricanes. Now that America has a muslim "green" president....he gonna blow the USA clean off the Earth!!!!

[mainbrainwayne]

your kidding me right, you actually think that turbines produce wind? come one people, unless you want utiltity rates to double every year keep holding back construction of wind farms. these turbines are the only way we americans will escape the grasp of foreign oil. quit being simple minded.

[Elmeshmohandes]

I am glad to see our Zafrana filed in the video.

Greetings from EGYPT

[iknowyoux]

That's truly amazing! I slashed my electric bill in half! look here: solar.xfollow.me (Copy to your browser's address bar)

[Brd1515]

i hate when people complain about the way that these things look...i think they look great, i stare at them whenever i drive by

[offyam]

Nice ending message. Keep safe.

And how do you grease the ones in the ocean?

[Brd1515]

i think those red things on top of the turbines at "Hornes Reef" are helicopter pads...thats how they reach the turbines

[smrterthenu]

i seen there out dated with wind turbines that are vertical cause the make more power in faster wind speeds and can be made cheaper and in faster and bigger quantities

[AllowExpression]

Where's this music from?

[keefer2111]

If you hate looking at these what would you rather have a Nuclear power plant,Oil wells? hell they would block off the areas to keep you away, they did this in Michigan..every place you would hunt is now posted even on private land you cant go near the area. they have destroid the place. The Money in retuen if you invest would be fantastic! Give me $50,000,000 to invest and it would be in the Billions in 10 years.

[LuxuriousLuxembourg]

1 billion from wind power?

[revhard05]

is there any comparison to a nuclear power plant or a hydroelectric dam, i think the nuc power plants are in the 1000mw.

[UNIQUE83ful]

Really? and if a nuclear power station blows up what are the consequences you smart nuclear supporter?

[revhard05]

You dont have any idea about what you are talking about. The new nuc plant designed by westinghouse AP1000 has been approved for every country it has been reviewd in.

Im sure if their was a chance one or two of the countrys might have disapproved, dont you think?

[UNIQUE83ful]

well ,if i had a doubt about your intentions in this website now i'm sure about it. your stupid arguments do not convince anyone about the future of the RES(Renewable Energy Sources) and unfortunately for u i have an MSC Master in Energy and i know very well what i'm talking about.

[revhard05]

You cant even back up what your trying to prove if it is anything at all.

If you do "know very well what your talking about" you can answer my question

So masters o' energy answer my question?

Compare units of nuclear power to units of windpower, in terms of MONEY?

lets hear it!!!!!!!!!

masters of energy? YEA from an online college based in India, pffff

[UNIQUE83ful]

u can't compare the power output of the 2 technologies.that's for sure. when we talk about energy we have in mind the security of supply&the consequences. RES can provide that security because there is that potential all over the world. where r u going to find your expensive & sparse uranium?i forgot. we will create a war somewhere to take it. do u know anything about DESERTEC?u should. that kind of projects is the future. my master is a British one.sorry for that!go on VESTAS. HERE IS FUTURE!

[sonick808]

The future is going to be either:

1) Complete failure of the coal-fired and hydroelectric grids by 2020

or

2) Many small, modular nuclear power plants with a max output of 50 megawatts, configured in a strategic partial mesh configuration.

You should know this as FACT if you truly have a master's degree in energy.

These turbines aren't worth a shit. low output. low ROI. High maint. cost. Bad for the ecosystem.

The only new tech. with promise is solar capture towers / boiling salt / steam

[UNIQUE83ful]

no. i thing the future is the 100 mw wind turbines with an annual maintenance cost about 1.5% of the initial cost. very cheap in my opinion and no toxic waste. that means environmental friendly. that will be the death of the nuclear.

[sonick808]

yes, the old plants are dangerous and inefficient.

The NEW designs are TOTALLY safe and very high ROI.

it's either nuclear , or no electricity. These ridiculous turbines are not going to even TOUCH the demand on the grid. They are a niche product, at BEST.

You are confusing old reactor designs with new small, modular reactor designs. Do you even know what a partial mesh implementation is ? Come clean, do you REALLY have a "masters in energy" ?

[datzfast]

@sonick808 well, your probably not a stupid man, and you probably have some common sense, so here we go. an investor shareholder, wants to make money, if he invests in a reactor its eight years to build and thirty to break even on the financing. the pay back for wind is two years. sorry but money wins everytime.

thats the world we live in baby, get used to millions of these things everywhere.

[datzfast]

@datzfast shit, your from Phoenix you are home to that huge solar complex. and your pushing nuclear weird

[sonick808]

My only interest is in stable, cheap electricity for the people. Turbines just don't offer that. They're neat for autonomous complexes and such, but the national grid ? A drop in the bucket. As far as those solar towers with the molten material generating steam, those show real promise. We'll see if it bears fruit or not. My concern NOW is that the grid is VERY old and rickety and will collapse under it's own weight in 20 years. Lucrative or not, we need to feed the grid. modular nukes can.

[sonick808]

Oh definitely. They're a hot commodity. Look at who invests in them: old money dynasties for one; movers and shakers for sure.

However. The grid is going to collapse without SERIOUS generation power, and wind turbines make a lilliputian amount of power for the footprint they have. You say it takes years to recoup on nuclear..... it takes damn near as long to get the land allocated for these turbines with all of the "not in my back yard" and eminent domain suits. Nuclear = fast, POWERFUL power

[UNIQUE83ful]

i must admit that u try hard to deceive people and judging from the supporters of your comments your company u work for has only 450 workers whereas VESTAS occupies thousands worldwide. so u look too small. thus let us that we have the knowledge of the wind turbines talk about them and the people will judge who is right.

[sonick808]

company i work for ? the company I work for has over 150,000 employees. Wrong guy. Again, I'm talking about REAL power for a floundering grid. You obviously don't understand the scope of the demand vs. the trickle of power these turbines provide. Like i said, these turbines are cool for small, self-contained complexes with predictable future needs (AND having been studied by audobon society for migratory paths prior to placement). Anyway, we need REAL power fast to avoid collapse

[revhard05]

The united states has more uranium than the middle east has oil,

Im not trying to bash the windmills because their windmills i hope they can work however in the future if technology helps produce a 100 mw wind tower, lol, good for it.

However, With newton in mind, How can you get that much power from a wind tower?

i would like to see 100mw wind mills, that *might work, but How can you get the same amount of power from.

[sonick808]

exactly. with EVERYTHING optimal, one turbine can barely make 2 Mw. 3 tops on a rebuild w/ new coils etc. Too many moving parts.

I used to drive past the huge farm in PawPaw, IL while driving back and forth to Rockford IL on I-39. 90% of the turbines weren't even turning due to unfavorable conditions, disrepair, etc.

It was exciting when it first came out, but it is already a flagging technology. We NEED small, modular nukes. That is, unless something comparable is discovered.

[cbrunner8331]

as of the year 2,000 a wind turbine was engineered to produce 5,600 mwh's annualy

[revhard05]

@cbrunner8331

source your info?

[revhard05]

so thats 2.6mwh per

and nuc plant makes what?

[cbrunner8331]

2.6mwh is a small wind turbine. nuclear power plants produce 600-1300mwhs so it would take 500 small turbines to equal the same amount. most wind farms have 500 or more Large turbines that put out twice that much power. Plus turbines are of course eco friendly very low maintenance, needing maintained every 20 years on average. and they generate full power at aslittle as 5mph winds. If the government would focus more on wind the technology would improve an they would have an even higher output

[1PAcouchpotato]

I dont think id want one of those in my yard. Or near my yard.

[offyam]

The magnetic field they create has been making people who live near them very ill, wherever they are installed - recent news, friend's family theory.

[keifer33comets]

Making them ill? Ill with what exactly. We have a 50 turbine farm in my hometown, and not one citizen has become ill due to the farm. And the magnetic field created is no stronger than the earth's natural field

[revhard05]

i call B.S.

[hlpmeplz22]

How about a nuclear power plant? Would that be a nice lawn ornament for you?

[jolleet]

All I can say is that the price of one wind tower can be in the 5 numbers, I'm pretty sure, if it's not more.

[recteest]

$250k to $500k.

[revhard05]

more like 2 to 3 million

[UNIQUE83ful]

the cost of these projects is about 1200 euros per kW.

[alanhowitzer]

What's on the back of the turbines at 1:35?

[revhard05]

hell pad

[1MinDLesS1]

this video was well put together. its catchy and has good colors.

[myOnnItt]

yep they have money for that stuff. buy Vestas stock. I did.

[kristiandue]

I don't think that birds, dumb as they are, would fly into one of these huge moving blades. And windmills is the way to go. I mean, they just stand there are provide clean energy. What is there not to love?

[stangy89]

Just a Common Eco-Myth... get over it friggin tree huggers!

[stangy89]

It's a given that anytime we post a story on wind power someone is going to comment that "turbines kill birds," suggesting that wind power may therefore be unacceptable. Compared to what? Hitting birds with automobiles (along with turtles, groundhogs, and deer)? Birds caught by feral cats? Birds colliding with buildings or phone towers? Quite possibly, a higher mortality will be attached to the transmission wires needed to get the wind power to market.

[steenfpedersen]

Murder of Birds???? BULLSHIT

We have thousands of turbines in all european contries, how come they not kill more birds than any other man-build construction or house?

But maybe US-Birds are more stupid than other birds - maybe :-))

[sonick808]

Houses don't have blades that slice through the air at high rates of speed ? Use google, the avian mortality issue is thoroughly documented. Nice subtle jab there at the end.. good one!!! jagoff

[myOnnItt]

honestly, though, don't cars kill millions of

birds every month? I have visited a wind site

several times and have never seen one dead bird. I admit they do kill the occasional bird

but it certainly is an acceptable tradeoff considering the pollutants these machines offset. Perhaps some wind sites are poorly located? Maybe. But I can't think of one good

place to put a nuclear reactor or a belching

smokestack. Can you?

[sonick808]

how come the video doesn't show the piles of birds at the base of the mill ?

[segmemtum]

since when has the world carred for any species and then you talk about birds? Nuclear Fission and fossil fuels are dangerous, and the longer it takes for the world to see that, the more closer we'll be to a new ICe age. no kidding.

[demon1846]

the real issue, is whether wind turbines actualy produce much power? And how close should they be sitted to peoples homes. According to Private Eye 11th July, 2,000 wwind turbines in Britain, produced less energy than one gas fired power station.

[segmemtum]

well one windturbine can produce enough energy on one day as long as it is going, to one house an entire year, so im afraid your numbers are wrong.

[demon1846]

sorry to be a nuisance segmemtum....I did'nt understand your reply, (my fault I am sure)The point I am making, is that, for instance, a small gas turbine power station, like the one at Splading, Lincs for instance. Produced last year 860mw of energy....Where as according to the figures provided by the wind generating firms themselves, last year using 36 oerational onshore sites, they could only produce 399mw that, is, sites scattered over the whole of England.

[vstress]

Does no-one know the difference between Power (usually in Watts) and Energy (usually in Joules)? i.e. last year it could have produced a maximum output of 860MW

Anyway, the problem in wind power is that yes, it can produce high levels of power, but only for short periods (wind is usually intermittent). Therefore storage of the energy is the problem to segmentum's idea.

[revhard05]

power = energy/time

[vstress]

It was a rhetorical question.

I'm an engineer... of the aeronautical type... this isn't exactly difficult, lol.

[revhard05]

yea, I am a amateur still in school. In thermodynamics we are covering the equations around work and power. In electronics we are covering generators. So it interested me in windmills.

[demon1846]

In addition to which, segmemtum, Private eye calculates, that an additional 7,000 Turbines, to the 2,000 already built, would not match the 4000mw power that one solid power station (Drax) alone produced last year. I could add that China puts into service 2 solid power stations every week....so how many wind Turbines would you have to build to keep pave.....you do the maths

[segmemtum]

no its ok, I'm just glad there is someone who i can debate with intellectualy instead of being called "idiot" or "asshole"

well maybe the ones in britain, but in the country where I live (Denmark) the wind turbines are much more efficent. they produce 20 percent of the power consumption in denmark, which actually is the leading country in the world, in windpower, and holds 50 percent of the market.

[demon1846]

You win the argument, of course, everytime someone does that!....sounds like you've been quit successful

[segmemtum]

well ok, diden't knew you going to quit that easily.

[demon1846]

I am aware of the figures for Denmark, I also understand their are issues, with it, which means it does not come cheap? because of fluctuations in supply, you have to sell it abroad cheaply on occassion? Denmark, then becomes the loser? The findings of the Dramstadt Manifesto in Germany, ended German subsidies to Wind Turbines?.....you can possibly, confirm or deny, all this?

[demon1846]

I have'nt quit, I mean you win, when people insult you!....I will not be doing that, your still on the 'Piste'with me, don't worry

[demon1846]

Denmark has 6,000 Turbines, as I understand it, serving 5.3 million people, to produve 19% of your total energy....yet you have shut down, not one power station! They have to be kept running, because of fluctuations in the wind. And so then, given the issues we are experiencing here them, what exactly is the point of them?

[revhard05]

the debate here in america is weither or not the windmill should be subsideries of the government. So obviously cost per watt is a issue. However i have not seen a projection of what one windmill cost, anyone have one handy?

[myOnnItt]

A recent project in Aroostook County, Maine, USA cost apprx. $58 million for 28 turbines, a little over $2 million a piece installed

[revhard05]

So the total "power" output is " X "?

[UNIQUE83ful]

ha ha. u r very rιdicοulus when u talk about birds when thousands of people get killed every year for the fossil fuels and their supply or have been killed or been ill from nuclear accidents. and in case u do not know the rotational speed of such wind turbines is not the one that has the fan u use in the summer when it is hot. the rotor rotates at about 10-15rpm. come on people. u can not make white black.

[sonick808]

15 rpm measured at the rotor center puts the speed of the blades and blade tips at upwards of 100mph! Far too fast for the birds to negotiate. People dying doesn't mean we should kill birds too.

RE: Nuclear power. Look into modular <50Mw stations. They ARE the ONLY way we will be able to sustain our power consumption. They are 100% safe since they are small, and built to self-contain any incident with an EPZ of ZERO feet. I should know, I'm friends with the MACCS2 author. See: France

[UNIQUE83ful]

man u know nothing about wind turbines. only that i will say.sorry about your nuclear plans.they r old-fashioned!

[sonick808]

these things are murder for birds, endangered and otherwise.... thousands of birds are chopped to bits by these things per year; endangered eagles in california of which there are only 100 mating pairs are being found chopped to pieces at the base of the windmills.

These things are ugly, inefficient, bird-killing pieces of shit. Hopefully they all suffer brake-failure and detonate like the danish video

[RJWAUGH]

Some people are so Ignorant, I bet you that more birds are killed in one oil spill, than in a year by wind-turbines.

[sonick808]

I'm certain your figure is correct. Oil spills do not occur with impunity 24x7. The Valdez spill was in 1989. Do the math. Many of the spill victims can be saved with rescue efforts by volunteers. The breadth of species killed is far more wide with these air blenders. The ratio of power output to mortality rate is pathetic for these ugly eyesores.

You're right, "some people" are so ignorant. Those that begin their rebuttal with a personal barb and end with a barb are usually "some people".

[Plamen2007]

woohoo go Vestas !! c(:

[TheFieldBoss]

You're an asshole!

[icetrout2]

fieldcunt go blow a fucking toad :p

[klasmenos1]

i we dont intall many of these soon there will be no bids to fall on them . asswipe!

[icetrout2]

There a eco-scam fuckwad just like your hero Al Gore.

[myOnnItt]

I hate Al Gore! He's a moron!

[TheFieldBoss]

Why the fuck would Al Gore be my hero?

He's a god damn hippocrate, selling stupid

dvd's and making a fortune. All he's done

is make you think all people who encourage

alternatives are banner waving morons. The wind farm in my town has cut taxes by

20% and I can still leave my computer running all night. Wind energy is part of our past and will be

with us in the future. And we can still keep our hot showers and

internet connections, so get over it. Go buy some vestas stock.

[sonick808]

Wait and see what happens to the eco-system when all the birds are felled by these air-blenders.

These things are hell on avian populations.

[myOnnItt]

But what are pollutants from coal burning doing to the ecosystem? How about all that waste coming from nuclear power plants? And how are wind turbines more ugly than the gray haze of smog that blankets the industrialized world? Birds are a concern, but clean air and water is a necessity for the entire planet. Next time you see a wind turbine, think of it as a soaring monument to our ingenuity, our engineering, our will to create a cleaner world, and our appreciation of all living things.

[ucho750]

awesome bardzo fajne nawet niewiedziałem że na wodzie też są jak jechałem do niemiec przez szczecin to widziałem te wiatraki na polach

[HansNien]

Saltyshoelace said it for me. I am dutch, but when I see what a Danish company can do with wind turbines, it should be better to say that a windmill (or turbine) is from now on more part of the Danisch culture rather than the Dutch.

Very nice to see.

[IvarTheBoneIess]

I know Holland is known as a windmill land. But there has always been almost as many windmills in Denmark to. The Danish landscape is pretty much the same as the Dutch.

[saltyshoelace]

This company is really incredible. I wish the state that I live in (Michigan) would take note...

[agentsas55]

well see some states just dont have the wind required to run these things... all what you saw usually have a good stream 24/7... Michigan may be one of those states that just doesnt have enough wind... but im not sure, I wish MO where i live would get them also but we jsut have incensistant wind

[cossack13]

Как энергетик могу сказать что это самый альтернативный способ получения энергии и самый экологичный...

[Rizhanka]

awesome..