Those cops who took the women make me want to put them in a head lock and slam their faces on the car and beat them until they get some sense in their stupid heads!!!!!!
They can demand your insurance ID without probable cause... So if you are driving, can they demand to see your license for no reason?
Also, don't ever resist or disobey when they're arresting you; later in court you will be seen as the guilty one, and will lose any case you could have had against them. It certainly won't make them stop arresting you. And - as you can see in this video -- they will use that as the primary reason for arresting you in the first place, illogical as that is.
@DominicMetal1979: AFIK, all states have laws stating that drivers must show drivers license, registration, and proof of insurance to police officers on demand, when enforcing traffic laws.
The catch is that the U.S. Constitution limits police on when they may STOP a driver, and punishes the State for violations by exclusing evidence found after an unconstitutional stop.
The issue here is whether the police legally stopped her, such as at a constitutional checkpoint. See Michigan v. Sitz.
Pure provocation from the police. He waits for the woman to physically prevent the policeman to touch her, and then he has a reason to arrest her for resisting arrest and assault. What a nazi!
They've got a point, doesn't everyone hate police officers lording the fact that they are a cop around you? That's why you get a sick feeling in your gut when a cop pulls you over, you know they already have found you guilty. If you aren't guilty, you have to pay a lawyer, court fees, and miss work to defend yourself against baseless accusations. They should make the Constitution, Declaration of Independence, and other founding documents required reading in Police academies.
"She is anti governmentish" (@ min 5:45). Knowing your constitutional rights is per the officer "anti governmentish". Don't Officers of the peace take an oath and are sworn in to protect the people and in addition the constitutional rights of the people, per they're being servicing their community. Painted on the sides of police cars (most of them) it says "To Protect and Serve"..... Protect and serve who? It is obviously not us, or us being the people.
@abcedy123456 Motherfucker what does being a Marine have to do with this? I'm a Marine and I can't stand when cops act like this. I swore to defend and uphold the constitution, unlike these police officers.
Lol, one dick cop that yelled at you for skating in the middle of the road or pulled you over cause you were speeding in a 60 zone automatically means that every Police Officer, Highway Patrol Man, Pencil Pusher is automatically a pig that should go to hell... Yet when they actually do something kind or help you it is disregarded as "their job"... grow the fuck up.
@RevelationUltimatum Thats the problem. It is NOT just one police officer highway patrol man pencil pusher. Police abuse has become an epidemic. What that ole saying? One bad apple ruins the whole bunch? How many bad apples would YOU say there is? Regardless of all the "GOOD" When one rogue cop commits a crime and one good cop CHOOSES to remain silent to cover up a crime to protect the integrity of the force that is complicity! A crime! Man they will get thiers soon.
The world revolution which we will experience will be exclusively our affair and will rest in our hands. This revolution will tighten the Jewish domination over all other people.
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I think you are mistaken. when asked to present a valid drivers license you are required to do so. you do have rights and at best most times they are honored but you do not have a right to deny an officer of the law when required to show a valid permit to operate a motor vehicle on a public street.
@ieatyomama actually your required to be licensed to drive she is traveling why do you think in highspeed chases they say the suspect is traveling at 100mph?.Also i've seen vids where cops can't arrest citizens who know the full laws,acts,amendments,statues,etc because one of them from the contitution gives all the right to travel.A car is a machine built to travel in.Now driven requires that your for instance in a big truck or driving for a company "commerical".Most do not know this.
@ieatyomama but like you said its best to show your DL as most cops aren't properly trained it takes at a min four years to properly learn every state & federal law in their respective state which they only train for 16 months i believe now.Plus they don't test for anger management issues,mental issues,etc.But again she should have shown id though but that wasn't their real reason it to make us obey them & the tyrants that have taken over our country & are killing our rights day by fucking day.
@bkeener86 said: it takes at a min four years to properly learn every state & federal law in their respective state.
Considering that the federal government has more than 300,000 laws and regulations, I suggest that no one can ever learn all the federal laws. I doubt that anyone can even learn all the state laws. A law school teaches people to think like a lawyer (no easy task), rather than teaching all laws.
Does anyone know the outcome of this situation? If this doesn't get people fired the fuck up about what's going in this "free" country, I don't know what will. There are riots going on in other countries because they increased the retirement age a couple of years, but shit like this goes on everyday here and people just sit back and do nothing. What the fuck is wrong with us?
Our politicians think this is OK and all part of living in a civilized society. do we as citizens of the USA want check points all over this land? A cop wondering if a book is legal? indeed welcome to the dark side of tomorrow today, welcome to Bush's New world Order.
If she SIMPLY showed him her drivers license and smiled in his fascist face she could have moved on. You need to know how to how to work the system. But I hope she sued their friggin asses off.
I love how they look at her educational material and say "She's into that weird stuff." Haha, so I guess it's just weird to know the Constitution and the actual laws, so the police skip on learning that. Instead they're taught how to instill fear into the people, and assume absolute power over every citizen in this country.
GO LADY GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You hit it on the head 4th Ammendment is outstanding. This ridiculous "officer" ADMITS he has no probable cause. My only shock was he didnt charge you with disorderly conduct 1/2 wat thru this
@jamescgale: Officers should have a reasonable and articulable suspicion that a person is an illegal immigrant before asking the person about their citizenship. That is part of people's rights under the Fourth Amendment - to be free from unreasonable detentions.
@jamescgale: It is illegal to stop drivers without an articulable suspicion of criminal activity or at a constitutional checkpoint. It is also illegal to punish suspected illegals who do not prove they are here legally.
typical police bullies - sadly, these people are on the job all over the country ... small town losers with nothing to look forward to other than pushing people around
Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1 (1968) which started what is known as a terry stop and frisk. which has just recently be extended to a person vehicle. it includes the areas in reach of persons inside. this law was put into place for officer safety. also in the begining the 2nd officers was stopping other cars. once there became a problem the 2nd officer moved over to assist. Most cops are good people just trying to do a job and protect people. What was the big deal about showing her ID anyway?
@mcnuutmp: The officers searched her car AFTER she was safely removed from the vicinity. Since "officer safety" was no longer an excuse to search her car, they needed a warrant to search it. Arizona v. Gant
@rhsjv: Maybe you don't understand DavisForthoffer's comment. He was responding to mcnuutmp's attempt to use Terry v. Ohio to justify the search depicted in this video.
The permissions given by Terry ceased the moment she was removed from the vehicle.
@rhsjv: You have been taught wrong. I suggest reading the U.S. Supreme Court case Arizona v. Gant. You can find it on the U.S. Supreme Court web site. Mouse over 'Opinions' and select 'More...'. Then click on '2008 Term Opinions of the Court'. Then search for 'Gant'. You will find that once a suspect is safely removed from a vehicle, only two reasons justify searching the vehicle. THIS video demonstrated neither reason. This search was illegal.
Why did they stop her? She DOES have the right to go to the station with him. I am a bit confused about what is happening. Yes she DOES have to provide a drivers license as she is operating a vehicle. However HE must provide a reason for pulling her over....this video does not show what precipitated this. I can't tell what is going on here....
Abby was absolutely correct and the De Facto Government statutes are not constitutional. There is a difference between lawful and legal. She should be applauded for her courage and emulated at every unlawful checkpoint across America.
i see no reason for checkpoints, but that's besides the point. it escalates, you think Nazi Germany turned like that overnight? If you think these cops are right in any shape way or form that mine as well bang your head into the wall and watch news all day. READ, study, learn, read propositions and the laws they are passing. It is criminal
she wasn't in her house, she was on a public road, and you have to have ID when you drive. technically she was resisting arrest, she should have dead weighted it. the police have the capability to win today, and she hypothetically has the capability to win tomorrow, but court proceedings like that would be uncertain
@admiralct: "and you have to have ID when you drive"
And law enforcement need reasonable suspicion before they can stop and demand ID. Research the Supreme Court case "Hiibel" for more info.
My understanding is that she was pulled over after turning to avoid a checkpoint. Doing so is perfectly legal so the officer did not have reasonable suspicion if this is so. Reports from the court case support this theory.
@Pafoofnik1 i don't know the exact situation, they said she was like reading on the side of the road or something. but if the cops ask your name and you absolutely refuse to give it, you're likely going to jail. those cops were power tripping but so was she. you have to prove that you have been granted the priviledge to drive.
@admiralct: Yes, people DO have to have their driver's licence when they drive. Nevertheless, it is illegal for police punish a person for not producing a driver's license, regardless of state law, unless the police meet the requirements of the Fourth Amendment.
@DavidForthoffer the fine for driving without a liscense is 50 in my state. and if one does not have ID when the officer asks, then they must hold you in jail until your identification is confirmed. failing to produce ID when asked even without probable cause is considered unlawful insurbordination. but most cops have better things to do.
if the woman in the video showed ID, she probably would have been on her way. but i do see the point made that the police can force citizens to curb their liberties and rights. the police have advantage because the encounter is immediate, they have immediate control. and the theoretical control that the citizen holds could be utilized in court at a later time in the citizens favor. police abuse is a loophole that cause citizens grief, even though citizen likely wins in the end.
@admiralct evidently not ALL cops have better things to do. not all states are "stop and identify" states. in "stop and identify" states, they can only demand your identification if you're being charged with a crime. identification means telling them who you are, NOT showing a physical ID card. what crime was this woman suspected of?
@chieftp: Actually, in "stop and identify" states such as Nevada, they can stop you if the have a reasonable and articulable suspicion that you are involved in criminal activity, which is a lower standard than charging with a crime. See Hiibel v. Nevada. For example, you can be completely innocent of anything, but if your description and car match that of a wanted felon, you can be stopped. Then, in such states, you can be arrested for failing to identify yourself.
@DavidForthoffer but they never gave a reason for stopping her. they didn't say anything about her or her car matching a description. also, I'm not sure if an officer can detain you simply for looking a certain way. if they could - they would stop any body they wanted to at random and say they kinda looked like someone (someone wanted for a crime - involving a gun.) then they "could" demand ID and search them for weapons.
everyday there are hundreds if not thousands of laws and regulations that go into effect but the media does their part by keeping us uninformed about this and only cover "big stories" like healthcare. Why does Obama want healthcare reform when 85% of the population clearly doesnt? This makes no sense, hes not working for you or me, hes working for the international bankers who put him in the White House. They feel like the Constitution was written for the public and not for them.
well, the way i see it. if the world turns to shit. and we have no freedom. alot of people will turn suicidal. the minute cops start to bully them, they'll put out the cops own pistol and kiill him and themselves
the whole checkpoint could have been just for her. someone watched and knew which way she goes home and they put up a checkpoint and harrass her. its not unusual.
Yes, Komitttt, driving IS a privilege and not a right.
But even though many states have laws requiring drivers to show their drivers licenses to police officers on demand, it is nevertheless illegal (unconstitutional) for police officers to arbitrarily stop drivers in the first place.
The consequence of officers finding evidence of crimes after behaving unconstitutionally is that the evidence must be suppressed, though lower courts often trample over people's rights anyway.
How much time did those cops waste searching that woman's car, I guess they didn't have anything better to do, like bust criminals. Isn't Patriot Games a Tom Clancy novel. So she's a threat to America because she reads Tom Clancy and knows her constitutional rights. America is starting to look more and more like Nazi-Germany.
I have found through some cops I know personally that they are more asleep than the average joe as to what is going on with reference to loss of liberties increased police state activity,who actually controls government etc.I understand the cop mentality which does not question authority.They typically don't do much independent thinking and are great at following instructions without question,but the way they march lockstep into tryanny withthe rest of us is not rational.must be elitist attitude
The Vatican-Pope-Jesuits-illuminati-CFR run the world. they have all the judges, attorneys, doctors, major corporations, etc. all in their back pocket. bought & paid for, etc. our country is no longer free -we live in tyranny! truth an obscure thing, Oppression & lie is the norm. Were all slaves- our masters, the elite, r at least 50 years ahead of us in knowledge, technology, info., secrets & r using all of it against us!
Oh, and I find it disgustingly ironic that our law enforcement officers are so sure to read one's Miranda "Rights" but our ACTUAL rights, granted by the BILL OF RIGHTS are denied and trampled.
The cop in this video ADMITTED that there was nothing this woman did that was illegal, therefore, he had NO probably cause, as is granted by the Fourth Amendment. Scumbag typical cop. They do NOT know the law, but they sure know what will bring in the revenue.
Where in the law does it say that a cop can do ANYTHING he or she pleases, even if it is outside the scope of the law, and you must comply, as this po-po stated, "because I'm asking you to...."??? Anyone???
I have found NO state law that says you must do what a police officer says.
All the states I've researched have laws making it a crime to obstruct an officer in the performance of their duty.
Since officers NEVER have a duty to violate a person's constitutional rights, then exerting your constitutional rights is not obstructing them in their duty.
the policemen: "man she's into that weird stuff."
Power Play, Power Elite, these are all official Sociological terms - nothing "weird" there lmao.
wow...no wonder the police didn't listen to her, they're stupid. At least he said that, "I don't know that this is illegal." That was the only smart thing he said. Another thing, the police officer did politely ask for her I.D. ...they were probably just conducting roadside checkpoint training. Why didn't she give them her I.D.? Simple solution.
I would do SHIT. Honestly. If he would try to do this with me ( I AM A MAN). I would kick his lilly ass. No matter what his gay ass friend there would do...
good 4 u lady! u keep givin hell and I will do the same! u and me thats all that matters.if I can't beat them....I can at least be a thorn in there side!!!
The exact same thing happened to me in Livonia, Michigan. However I was able to get the case dismissed because the DA wouldn't dare touch a 4th amendment violation case.
They are uneducated drones who act on impulse constantly. It is visible every day. Their ignorance manifests itself through illegal shootings, bribery, and bad conduct in general. Many of the charges in this country are dismissed just as the one above was. Police for the most part have high school educations under one of the worst educational systems in the world. The officer in the film made a smart comment about her having information on the constitution. Fuck him and every cop like him.
I do not have respect for the badge because it has no respect for me. And it is unforgiving. They hate the fact that you have right and are always complaining that the criminals have too many rights. They feel that if you're not one of them, you're a criminal. So in essence, they feel that each and every one of us has too many rights. They are enemies to the constitution and hate us. Well, hate them back. It works for me... Fuck them and their miopic opinionated sense of right and wrong.
If a cop ever did this to me, they'd wind up dead. I'm not taking any shit from the government or police. I'll kill them and anyone else that tries this shit.
You're a dickless wonder. Drive around running red lights 'til you get stopped if you feel so strongly about it. then we'll see who winds up what. Talking legal shit to cops on stops is a sure road to disaster.
Thanks. I couldn't wait to tear into that. Its not like I wouldn't be so unjustified. I mean atleast when they defy the constitution and take me to jail I'm just jailed. And not beaten half to death first without any justification. Oi.
I know that I am going to get a lot of flack and name calling for this statement, but here it goes. In defense of these two officers, they are doing the job they are getting paid for. Most officers don't know the Constitution, they are only schooled in the parts that pertain to them. They are instructed in Miranda vs. Arizona for example. I am not saying that the police departments have a right to do this, the do not. But the individual officers are taught that this is acceptable behavior.
We have let this go on so long, that they have taken control over us, this is out fault. I praise the lady that knows her constitution, and sticks by it.
well lets do something about OUR COUNTRY,... COME ON!!!! Please contact me here if you are ready... Only if you are serious about action.. screw talking im finished with that.. we get no where with these idiots!!!!!
If this police department or the Police Commissioner of this State is a Gestapo like Moron then they can do whaever they want. We have to have a driver's license and registration on the car . There is always a checkpoint anywhere. The only way to get back at the Police if they abuse is sue the government.
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The police have the right to ask you for your ID anytime. You are also required by law to carry your ID at all times once your over the age of 16. she was in the wrong.
She was in the wrong for exercising her rights as a American, without being charged and because she wouldnt show her papers? I guess we should just say fuck it and all it United Socialist States of America like Nazi Germany?
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OK so now the Police have no right to ask if you are authorized to drive? SECTION 56-5-740. Obedience to authorized persons directing traffic.
No person shall willfully fail or refuse to comply with any lawful order or direction of any police officer, fireman or uniformed adult school crossing guard invested by law with authority to direct, control or regulate traffic.
i consider even police checkpoints to be illegal unless there is a national emergency or something important like cordoning off an area to find a fugative
Generally, police can ask for proof that a person has a license to operate a motor vehicle if the officer has reasonable suspicion that a driving law violation has occurred. I see no proof of that in this video.
So, a big question here is if the officer was giving a "lawful order". A lot of people are not convinced that his stop was legal, or his orders were lawful.
@Pafoofnik1 The stop certainly was not legal. It is very clear that you need reason to believe a crime has been committed to make a stop. They admitted they had none. Absolutely this was an illegal stop, and I hope this lady got justice.
@DavidForthoffer Without reasonable suspicion to believe a crime has occurred, they can not make a stop. They allowed several cars, clearly seen in this video, to pass right through. Obviously they are not stopping "everyone", they are making arbitrary decisions as to who to stop and why without any reasonable suspicion of crime, as they admit in the video. SOME are legal (only because of judicial review, NOT because of law), this one is not legal. Thanks for being civil in this post ;-)
@ssn708: You are again mistaken. It is possible for police to set up legal checkpoints, where vehicles are stopped without any suspicion of criminal activity. It is not true that all vehicles be stopped. The main criterion is that vehicles be stopped without any discretion on the part of officers, such as by stopping every fifth vehicle.
Read the U.S. Supreme Court case Michigan v. Sitz.
@Komitttt: The key in Section 56-5-740 is "lawful order or direction".
It is NEVER lawful for an officer to deprive you of your constitutional rights, such as your right against unreasonable searches or seizures without a warrant.
years ago there weren't so many laws, rules, regs, and such and a small govt. now we are taxed to death, and harrassed like this woman. now police make excuses to pull folks over. they even go so far as to make arrests to meet quotas. wake up man !!
So you are saying you must have an ID even when not driving? Then why are citizens not ask for ID who do not drive. The DMV does not know your exist till you apply for license.
All all times you are a fucking moron. Thats the law.
That´s the way it is in germany. Here you MUST take you ID etc. with you just in case...and it does not matter wether you´re driving or taking a walk ^^ I don´t really know why but we must cause if a policeman asks you to show him your ID and you have no ID with you he could arrest you as far as I know. I´ll have to ask about that at my local policestation.
Yes, the police have the right to ask you for your ID any time. However, that does not give them the right to arrest you if you do not show ID.
You are NOT required by law to carry your ID at all times once you're over the age of 16. In fact you are not even required to POSSESS an ID, unless you drive a vehicle, must file taxes, etc..
In Terry v. Ohio, the Supreme Court said, "an officer may not arrest a suspect for failure to identify himself if the identification request is not reasonably related to the circumstances justifying the stop".
Cop or jack boot pig?
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MrInflateAdate 6 months ago
Those cops who took the women make me want to put them in a head lock and slam their faces on the car and beat them until they get some sense in their stupid heads!!!!!!
SuperHotjoe 7 months ago
@SuperHotjoe They make me want to take more permanent action.
SacredByte 7 months ago
They can demand your insurance ID without probable cause... So if you are driving, can they demand to see your license for no reason?
Also, don't ever resist or disobey when they're arresting you; later in court you will be seen as the guilty one, and will lose any case you could have had against them. It certainly won't make them stop arresting you. And - as you can see in this video -- they will use that as the primary reason for arresting you in the first place, illogical as that is.
DominicMetal1979 7 months ago
@DominicMetal1979: AFIK, all states have laws stating that drivers must show drivers license, registration, and proof of insurance to police officers on demand, when enforcing traffic laws.
The catch is that the U.S. Constitution limits police on when they may STOP a driver, and punishes the State for violations by exclusing evidence found after an unconstitutional stop.
The issue here is whether the police legally stopped her, such as at a constitutional checkpoint. See Michigan v. Sitz.
DavidForthoffer 7 months ago
@DavidForthoffer: Well said.
Pafoofnik1 7 months ago
@DominicMetal1979 I hate games that I already know in advance I'm gonna lose even before playing it!
Gentilseulement 6 months ago
That poor guy being tazered by these nazis at the end of the video really shocked me.
Gentilseulement 8 months ago
Pure provocation from the police. He waits for the woman to physically prevent the policeman to touch her, and then he has a reason to arrest her for resisting arrest and assault. What a nazi!
Gentilseulement 8 months ago
IDIOTS
southern04man 9 months ago
They've got a point, doesn't everyone hate police officers lording the fact that they are a cop around you? That's why you get a sick feeling in your gut when a cop pulls you over, you know they already have found you guilty. If you aren't guilty, you have to pay a lawyer, court fees, and miss work to defend yourself against baseless accusations. They should make the Constitution, Declaration of Independence, and other founding documents required reading in Police academies.
Bumbley1 9 months ago
Don't try that shit @ my house , Waco will pale in comparison
alphasgv 9 months ago
Redneck fucks!
alphasgv 9 months ago
Real "heroes" there. Hey fellas - you wonder why people hate you more and more every day?
TagManpants 10 months ago
thats our tax dollars people.....
RichieLT 10 months ago
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Assaulting a police officer? When?
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She should of shot him in the face.
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SunnySide247 10 months ago
Police officers are a false sense of security. Don't rely on them, they're human and faulty. Use your 2nd amendment right and protect yourselves.
blackyblackblack505 11 months ago
@homfri111:
Exactly how would knowing a person's name determine sobriety again?
Exactly how would knowing if a person is wanted determine sobriety again?
Exactly how would knowing if a person has warrants determine sobriety again?
General law enforcement check points are not legal.
Pafoofnik1 11 months ago
"She is anti governmentish" (@ min 5:45). Knowing your constitutional rights is per the officer "anti governmentish". Don't Officers of the peace take an oath and are sworn in to protect the people and in addition the constitutional rights of the people, per they're being servicing their community. Painted on the sides of police cars (most of them) it says "To Protect and Serve"..... Protect and serve who? It is obviously not us, or us being the people.
Glamisnewsdotcom 11 months ago
she kicked the officer! GUILTY!!
bubbaroy73 11 months ago
@bubbaroy73 You are 1 a cop 2 a snitch 3 wanna b cop 4 training to b a cop 5 a marine or 6 just a dick.=)
abcedy123456 11 months ago
@abcedy123456.. this "@bubbaroy73" is just a silly troll doing a very lousy job as instigator.. :)
nibirushock 11 months ago
@abcedy123456 Motherfucker what does being a Marine have to do with this? I'm a Marine and I can't stand when cops act like this. I swore to defend and uphold the constitution, unlike these police officers.
Bumbley1 9 months ago
FUCKIN NAZI'S
punapeter 1 year ago
AH HEY FOUND THEMSELVES SOMEONE THAT THINX OUTSIDE THE BOX! TOO MUCH FOR THEIR PEA BRAINS
maria3626352 1 year ago
What happened with this case?
MahanaimCh 1 year ago
Cops like these are why everyone hates cops and thinks they're all DICKHEADS.
hamster3467 1 year ago
Lol, one dick cop that yelled at you for skating in the middle of the road or pulled you over cause you were speeding in a 60 zone automatically means that every Police Officer, Highway Patrol Man, Pencil Pusher is automatically a pig that should go to hell... Yet when they actually do something kind or help you it is disregarded as "their job"... grow the fuck up.
RevelationUltimatum 1 year ago
@RevelationUltimatum Thats the problem. It is NOT just one police officer highway patrol man pencil pusher. Police abuse has become an epidemic. What that ole saying? One bad apple ruins the whole bunch? How many bad apples would YOU say there is? Regardless of all the "GOOD" When one rogue cop commits a crime and one good cop CHOOSES to remain silent to cover up a crime to protect the integrity of the force that is complicity! A crime! Man they will get thiers soon.
abcedy123456 11 months ago
thank you alex jones for making these pigs look like the dumb fucks that they are
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MsMihailescu 1 year ago
"You are under arrest for resisting arrest"
Anyone else find something wrong with that statement?
pr0pr0 1 year ago
I think you are mistaken. when asked to present a valid drivers license you are required to do so. you do have rights and at best most times they are honored but you do not have a right to deny an officer of the law when required to show a valid permit to operate a motor vehicle on a public street.
ieatyomama 1 year ago
@ieatyomama actually your required to be licensed to drive she is traveling why do you think in highspeed chases they say the suspect is traveling at 100mph?.Also i've seen vids where cops can't arrest citizens who know the full laws,acts,amendments,statues,etc because one of them from the contitution gives all the right to travel.A car is a machine built to travel in.Now driven requires that your for instance in a big truck or driving for a company "commerical".Most do not know this.
bkeener86 1 year ago
@ieatyomama but like you said its best to show your DL as most cops aren't properly trained it takes at a min four years to properly learn every state & federal law in their respective state which they only train for 16 months i believe now.Plus they don't test for anger management issues,mental issues,etc.But again she should have shown id though but that wasn't their real reason it to make us obey them & the tyrants that have taken over our country & are killing our rights day by fucking day.
bkeener86 1 year ago
@bkeener86 said: it takes at a min four years to properly learn every state & federal law in their respective state.
Considering that the federal government has more than 300,000 laws and regulations, I suggest that no one can ever learn all the federal laws. I doubt that anyone can even learn all the state laws. A law school teaches people to think like a lawyer (no easy task), rather than teaching all laws.
DavidForthoffer 1 year ago
Does anyone know the outcome of this situation? If this doesn't get people fired the fuck up about what's going in this "free" country, I don't know what will. There are riots going on in other countries because they increased the retirement age a couple of years, but shit like this goes on everyday here and people just sit back and do nothing. What the fuck is wrong with us?
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pr0pr0 1 year ago
"well ma'am you've done nothing wrong but you must present your papers because we are now in a police state and you no longer have any rights.
1d0nTwAnTaUsErNaMe 1 year ago
careful wat you say on here, it could be "elegal"
michaelruth75 1 year ago
@michaelruth75 like i give a fuck they can kiss my free american ass!!.
bkeener86 1 year ago
I am confused i mean why they need new world
it is for money or power
supermarioworld9000 1 year ago
You can think the Bush crime family for this (not to mention these country bumpkin troopers) — It's all down-hill from here folks.
AudioGuise 1 year ago
You can think Bush for this.
AudioGuise 1 year ago
stink cock cops
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HansZech 1 year ago
omg these are some country ass police they dont even know what to charge her with but she has already been arrested.
rayray5340 1 year ago
omg these are some country ass police
rayray5340 1 year ago
Ashamed? They need to be hung.
Smackdaddy9 1 year ago
Our politicians think this is OK and all part of living in a civilized society. do we as citizens of the USA want check points all over this land? A cop wondering if a book is legal? indeed welcome to the dark side of tomorrow today, welcome to Bush's New world Order.
mechanicalbu11 1 year ago
Here I was thinking America was a free and open society. This is why I will never travel to your country. I feel sorry for you poor souls :(
eazyazz 1 year ago
If she SIMPLY showed him her drivers license and smiled in his fascist face she could have moved on. You need to know how to how to work the system. But I hope she sued their friggin asses off.
jerseygrl5 1 year ago
THIS OFFICER NEEDS TO GO BACK TO COP SCHOOL.
Lockman007 1 year ago
I love how they look at her educational material and say "She's into that weird stuff." Haha, so I guess it's just weird to know the Constitution and the actual laws, so the police skip on learning that. Instead they're taught how to instill fear into the people, and assume absolute power over every citizen in this country.
ItsJohnnyAppleseed 1 year ago
GO LADY GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You hit it on the head 4th Ammendment is outstanding. This ridiculous "officer" ADMITS he has no probable cause. My only shock was he didnt charge you with disorderly conduct 1/2 wat thru this
whitejackt 1 year ago
IS IT NOT A PREVILAGE TO DRIVE! WHAT ABOUT THE ASIANS!
barneyfzr600 1 year ago
They can do this to citizens, but they aren't allowed to ask suspected illegals about their citizenship?
What a joke.
jamescgale 1 year ago
@jamescgale: Officers should have a reasonable and articulable suspicion that a person is an illegal immigrant before asking the person about their citizenship. That is part of people's rights under the Fourth Amendment - to be free from unreasonable detentions.
DavidForthoffer 1 year ago
@jamescgale: It is illegal to stop drivers without an articulable suspicion of criminal activity or at a constitutional checkpoint. It is also illegal to punish suspected illegals who do not prove they are here legally.
DavidForthoffer 1 year ago
I have to know who you are before you can go down this road.
WOW!
Smackdaddy9 1 year ago
sad
future305 1 year ago
Enough is Enough!
therealmr905 1 year ago
grab your guns! everyone knows the cops are the biggest gang in the U.S.A. Lets take the power back.
jbonesalot 1 year ago
typical police bullies - sadly, these people are on the job all over the country ... small town losers with nothing to look forward to other than pushing people around
blahblahblah3976 1 year ago
your under arrest for resisting arrest
pattheman0119 1 year ago
Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1 (1968) which started what is known as a terry stop and frisk. which has just recently be extended to a person vehicle. it includes the areas in reach of persons inside. this law was put into place for officer safety. also in the begining the 2nd officers was stopping other cars. once there became a problem the 2nd officer moved over to assist. Most cops are good people just trying to do a job and protect people. What was the big deal about showing her ID anyway?
mcnuutmp 1 year ago
@mcnuutmp: The officers searched her car AFTER she was safely removed from the vicinity. Since "officer safety" was no longer an excuse to search her car, they needed a warrant to search it. Arizona v. Gant
DavidForthoffer 1 year ago
@DavidForthoffer no they dont as an LASD Explorer we have been taught by law once an arrest is made its lawfull to search your car
rhsjv 1 year ago
@rhsjv: Maybe you don't understand DavisForthoffer's comment. He was responding to mcnuutmp's attempt to use Terry v. Ohio to justify the search depicted in this video.
The permissions given by Terry ceased the moment she was removed from the vehicle.
Pafoofnik1 1 year ago
@rhsjv: You have been taught wrong. I suggest reading the U.S. Supreme Court case Arizona v. Gant. You can find it on the U.S. Supreme Court web site. Mouse over 'Opinions' and select 'More...'. Then click on '2008 Term Opinions of the Court'. Then search for 'Gant'. You will find that once a suspect is safely removed from a vehicle, only two reasons justify searching the vehicle. THIS video demonstrated neither reason. This search was illegal.
DavidForthoffer 1 year ago
@mcnuutmp In this case, It's her right not too genius! Thats the "big deal."
CARE2DOTCOM 1 year ago
Why did they stop her? She DOES have the right to go to the station with him. I am a bit confused about what is happening. Yes she DOES have to provide a drivers license as she is operating a vehicle. However HE must provide a reason for pulling her over....this video does not show what precipitated this. I can't tell what is going on here....
goobergel 1 year ago
Abby was absolutely correct and the De Facto Government statutes are not constitutional. There is a difference between lawful and legal. She should be applauded for her courage and emulated at every unlawful checkpoint across America.
ckairnes68 1 year ago
i see no reason for checkpoints, but that's besides the point. it escalates, you think Nazi Germany turned like that overnight? If you think these cops are right in any shape way or form that mine as well bang your head into the wall and watch news all day. READ, study, learn, read propositions and the laws they are passing. It is criminal
cainsrain 1 year ago
"I think she can read it all she wants to!" -- yeah, dumbass! Reading is not illegal.
(6:49)
farkoman 1 year ago
she wasn't in her house, she was on a public road, and you have to have ID when you drive. technically she was resisting arrest, she should have dead weighted it. the police have the capability to win today, and she hypothetically has the capability to win tomorrow, but court proceedings like that would be uncertain
admiralct 1 year ago
@admiralct: "and you have to have ID when you drive"
And law enforcement need reasonable suspicion before they can stop and demand ID. Research the Supreme Court case "Hiibel" for more info.
My understanding is that she was pulled over after turning to avoid a checkpoint. Doing so is perfectly legal so the officer did not have reasonable suspicion if this is so. Reports from the court case support this theory.
Pafoofnik1 1 year ago
@Pafoofnik1 i don't know the exact situation, they said she was like reading on the side of the road or something. but if the cops ask your name and you absolutely refuse to give it, you're likely going to jail. those cops were power tripping but so was she. you have to prove that you have been granted the priviledge to drive.
admiralct 1 year ago
@admiralct: Thank you for your comment. I see that we essentially agree that you do not have to give ID to a law enforcement officer on demand then.
Pafoofnik1 1 year ago
@admiralct: Yes, people DO have to have their driver's licence when they drive. Nevertheless, it is illegal for police punish a person for not producing a driver's license, regardless of state law, unless the police meet the requirements of the Fourth Amendment.
DavidForthoffer 1 year ago
@DavidForthoffer the fine for driving without a liscense is 50 in my state. and if one does not have ID when the officer asks, then they must hold you in jail until your identification is confirmed. failing to produce ID when asked even without probable cause is considered unlawful insurbordination. but most cops have better things to do.
admiralct 1 year ago
if the woman in the video showed ID, she probably would have been on her way. but i do see the point made that the police can force citizens to curb their liberties and rights. the police have advantage because the encounter is immediate, they have immediate control. and the theoretical control that the citizen holds could be utilized in court at a later time in the citizens favor. police abuse is a loophole that cause citizens grief, even though citizen likely wins in the end.
admiralct 1 year ago
@admiralct evidently not ALL cops have better things to do. not all states are "stop and identify" states. in "stop and identify" states, they can only demand your identification if you're being charged with a crime. identification means telling them who you are, NOT showing a physical ID card. what crime was this woman suspected of?
chieftp 1 year ago
@chieftp: Actually, in "stop and identify" states such as Nevada, they can stop you if the have a reasonable and articulable suspicion that you are involved in criminal activity, which is a lower standard than charging with a crime. See Hiibel v. Nevada. For example, you can be completely innocent of anything, but if your description and car match that of a wanted felon, you can be stopped. Then, in such states, you can be arrested for failing to identify yourself.
DavidForthoffer 1 year ago
@DavidForthoffer but they never gave a reason for stopping her. they didn't say anything about her or her car matching a description. also, I'm not sure if an officer can detain you simply for looking a certain way. if they could - they would stop any body they wanted to at random and say they kinda looked like someone (someone wanted for a crime - involving a gun.) then they "could" demand ID and search them for weapons.
chieftp 1 year ago
@chieftp: Yes, officers can break the laws in more or less obvious ways to violate your rights.
DavidForthoffer 1 year ago
FUCK THE POLICE
KrazyDude92 1 year ago
Good for her for sticking up for herself.
reevesc1986 1 year ago
everyday there are hundreds if not thousands of laws and regulations that go into effect but the media does their part by keeping us uninformed about this and only cover "big stories" like healthcare. Why does Obama want healthcare reform when 85% of the population clearly doesnt? This makes no sense, hes not working for you or me, hes working for the international bankers who put him in the White House. They feel like the Constitution was written for the public and not for them.
fukwaynecampaign2 1 year ago
by guns while you can, learn how to shoot it. especially if you live in virginia
lespaulplayer09 1 year ago
well, the way i see it. if the world turns to shit. and we have no freedom. alot of people will turn suicidal. the minute cops start to bully them, they'll put out the cops own pistol and kiill him and themselves
TwistToy 2 years ago
the whole checkpoint could have been just for her. someone watched and knew which way she goes home and they put up a checkpoint and harrass her. its not unusual.
cleanmrbroadway 2 years ago
@Komitttt
Driving is a priviledge not a right dig into the law people and learn. This woman has an Obligation to comply.
Komitttt 2 years ago
Yes, Komitttt, driving IS a privilege and not a right.
But even though many states have laws requiring drivers to show their drivers licenses to police officers on demand, it is nevertheless illegal (unconstitutional) for police officers to arbitrarily stop drivers in the first place.
The consequence of officers finding evidence of crimes after behaving unconstitutionally is that the evidence must be suppressed, though lower courts often trample over people's rights anyway.
DavidForthoffer 2 years ago
STICKIN HEATHEN COMMIE POLICE !!!
MrMatthew1180 2 years ago
wooo just woke up
haha ofcourse 1 bang and here we go a excuse to abolish citizen laws
do your work buddy
mimisoso999 2 years ago
How much time did those cops waste searching that woman's car, I guess they didn't have anything better to do, like bust criminals. Isn't Patriot Games a Tom Clancy novel. So she's a threat to America because she reads Tom Clancy and knows her constitutional rights. America is starting to look more and more like Nazi-Germany.
dex13911 2 years ago 2
It's obvious that since 11.09.2001 and Patriot Act, your government has harassed you more.
It's so ridiculous.
myjanuary151987 2 years ago
gay cops
noklarok 2 years ago
I have found through some cops I know personally that they are more asleep than the average joe as to what is going on with reference to loss of liberties increased police state activity,who actually controls government etc.I understand the cop mentality which does not question authority.They typically don't do much independent thinking and are great at following instructions without question,but the way they march lockstep into tryanny withthe rest of us is not rational.must be elitist attitude
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MopDMTBARTL 2 years ago
hahaha....oh my god...where is the mainstream media on this? ABC? NBC?
hahahah!!!
Its all fixed...gotta laugh or you'll cry.
fishingfordollars 2 years ago 3
disgusting- is the word when the sheep will wake up..
Nosheepfull 2 years ago 2
Oh, and I find it disgustingly ironic that our law enforcement officers are so sure to read one's Miranda "Rights" but our ACTUAL rights, granted by the BILL OF RIGHTS are denied and trampled.
The cop in this video ADMITTED that there was nothing this woman did that was illegal, therefore, he had NO probably cause, as is granted by the Fourth Amendment. Scumbag typical cop. They do NOT know the law, but they sure know what will bring in the revenue.
yamagoof 2 years ago
Can ANYONE answer me this?
Where in the law does it say that a cop can do ANYTHING he or she pleases, even if it is outside the scope of the law, and you must comply, as this po-po stated, "because I'm asking you to...."??? Anyone???
yamagoof 2 years ago 2
I have found NO state law that says you must do what a police officer says.
All the states I've researched have laws making it a crime to obstruct an officer in the performance of their duty.
Since officers NEVER have a duty to violate a person's constitutional rights, then exerting your constitutional rights is not obstructing them in their duty.
DavidForthoffer 2 years ago
the policemen: "man she's into that weird stuff."
Power Play, Power Elite, these are all official Sociological terms - nothing "weird" there lmao.
wow...no wonder the police didn't listen to her, they're stupid. At least he said that, "I don't know that this is illegal." That was the only smart thing he said. Another thing, the police officer did politely ask for her I.D. ...they were probably just conducting roadside checkpoint training. Why didn't she give them her I.D.? Simple solution.
Darkgravx12 2 years ago 2
Wow one person here that gets it show your license and drive away..
Komitttt 2 years ago
I would have just showed them my license and moved on.
psxwarrior 2 years ago
I would do SHIT. Honestly. If he would try to do this with me ( I AM A MAN). I would kick his lilly ass. No matter what his gay ass friend there would do...
Teaautomat 2 years ago
You would have simply gone to Jail sore
Komitttt 2 years ago
good 4 u lady! u keep givin hell and I will do the same! u and me thats all that matters.if I can't beat them....I can at least be a thorn in there side!!!
carbonpoly 2 years ago 3
Yeah, Tom, you're a scary sumbitch. Bet lawyers crap their pants at your approach.
tsavodiner 2 years ago
The exact same thing happened to me in Livonia, Michigan. However I was able to get the case dismissed because the DA wouldn't dare touch a 4th amendment violation case.
tomaxx313 2 years ago 4
Its not 4th amendment its a requirment to show lawful authorization to drive wake up nut job
Komitttt 2 years ago
What does the narrator say at 7:20-21? "A ...constitution"
mdsoultrain 2 years ago
WAKE UP!
What would Jesus do?
What would Muhamed do?
What would Moses do?
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.
Mesina2 2 years ago
Police do NOT serve and protect the Constitution
of the United States.
I remember this everytime the police benevolent
associations come to me for money.
I remind them that the officers are already paid
via my tax dollars.
Also, cops have life insurance policies
should they die on duty.
MeritisDE 2 years ago
BITCH!
Ialocin85 2 years ago
WHAT A FUCKING POWER-TRIPPING PIG! I like that she asserted her rights. Well done. The pigs can't just go pushing innocent people around!
onlyaremedy78 2 years ago
OMG
DocGreen15 2 years ago
They are uneducated drones who act on impulse constantly. It is visible every day. Their ignorance manifests itself through illegal shootings, bribery, and bad conduct in general. Many of the charges in this country are dismissed just as the one above was. Police for the most part have high school educations under one of the worst educational systems in the world. The officer in the film made a smart comment about her having information on the constitution. Fuck him and every cop like him.
Terminalintensity6 2 years ago
Agreed!
onlyaremedy78 2 years ago
I do not have respect for the badge because it has no respect for me. And it is unforgiving. They hate the fact that you have right and are always complaining that the criminals have too many rights. They feel that if you're not one of them, you're a criminal. So in essence, they feel that each and every one of us has too many rights. They are enemies to the constitution and hate us. Well, hate them back. It works for me... Fuck them and their miopic opinionated sense of right and wrong.
Terminalintensity6 2 years ago
I respect the badge, but it's unfortunate that many who wear the badge don't respect their own badges and the responsibility that goes along with it.
They're worried about her books and views on things. Is it not a right as an American to have individual opinions about issues?
Then the two goofs had to discuss if she had broken the law. Should that have been figured out before they stopped her?
DotTwoTwoThree 2 years ago
5 STARS
NUFFANDEARTH 2 years ago 4
If a cop ever did this to me, they'd wind up dead. I'm not taking any shit from the government or police. I'll kill them and anyone else that tries this shit.
Daishilegendary 2 years ago
You're a dickless wonder. Drive around running red lights 'til you get stopped if you feel so strongly about it. then we'll see who winds up what. Talking legal shit to cops on stops is a sure road to disaster.
tsavodiner 2 years ago
tsavodiner: You are off-topic.
On topic would be "Drive around without breaking any laws 'til you get stopped."
DavidForthoffer 2 years ago
Thanks. I couldn't wait to tear into that. Its not like I wouldn't be so unjustified. I mean atleast when they defy the constitution and take me to jail I'm just jailed. And not beaten half to death first without any justification. Oi.
Daishilegendary 2 years ago
Thanks. Go grow a dick. Or suck one.
tsavodiner 2 years ago
Legal shit?
Are you talking about his/her rights?
So what you saying is, don't stand up for your rights and be submissive!
Ok son, back to sleep you go!
DocGreen15 2 years ago
The Nazis had checkpoints and wanted papers.
woodlandcammo27 2 years ago 7
Cops like this are a sell out to the human race and they should be ashamed to call themselves police officers.
What a scumbag!
FISTOFTHEWEST 2 years ago
What ever happend with this? Where they sued? Fired?
mpett2 2 years ago
I know that I am going to get a lot of flack and name calling for this statement, but here it goes. In defense of these two officers, they are doing the job they are getting paid for. Most officers don't know the Constitution, they are only schooled in the parts that pertain to them. They are instructed in Miranda vs. Arizona for example. I am not saying that the police departments have a right to do this, the do not. But the individual officers are taught that this is acceptable behavior.
proudrebel69 2 years ago 2
We have let this go on so long, that they have taken control over us, this is out fault. I praise the lady that knows her constitution, and sticks by it.
proudrebel69 2 years ago 3
The police in this county are way out of control. They need to sued and fired.
Maxwedge12000 2 years ago 4
this lady is awesome!
FkyGGGG 2 years ago 11
Fuckin Pig SCUM.
mmtot 2 years ago 2
Welcome to 1984 !!!
- Dead Kennedys
isochronous1 2 years ago 7
well lets do something about OUR COUNTRY,... COME ON!!!! Please contact me here if you are ready... Only if you are serious about action.. screw talking im finished with that.. we get no where with these idiots!!!!!
CGPAryan 2 years ago 5
how can you Enforce the Law when you dont even know what they are???? Good Job Trooper !!! Bad cop no Doughnut !!
fightfan1111 2 years ago 5
It must be Texas Rangers who were trained by the AWOL drunken bum Bush
BudWiser999 2 years ago 2
this is WRONG!
Gwenlj 2 years ago 5
Fuck Bush Fuck Obama
no peace with your evil nations
no peace with Zionism
no peace with Masonry
Bring us more wars, we are willing to crush your remained troops under feet as we did with Russia before
This is the new age of Islamic victories
GlitchAttack 2 years ago 6
@GlitchAttack yeah because Islamic nations lead the way in civil liberties. In your world this lady would be stoned to death bc her hair was exposed.
goarmymp 1 year ago
If this police department or the Police Commissioner of this State is a Gestapo like Moron then they can do whaever they want. We have to have a driver's license and registration on the car . There is always a checkpoint anywhere. The only way to get back at the Police if they abuse is sue the government.
DarthMai 2 years ago 2
"I don't know if this is illegal" (6:51) What a fucking piece of shit cop. Why not watch the border or something?
AustinSlay 2 years ago 4
these cops are the judge, jury, and executioner
t2491tom 2 years ago 5
WOW they jus tryin 2 find about ANNYthing 2 charge her with
aznbeeezy 2 years ago 3
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The police have the right to ask you for your ID anytime. You are also required by law to carry your ID at all times once your over the age of 16. she was in the wrong.
Richweir1 2 years ago
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"The police have the right to ask you for your ID anytime."
They can ask all day... Doesn't mean I am required to produce it.
"You are also required by law to carry your ID at all times once your over the age of 16"
Not in my state, unless I am driving..
Pafoofnik1 2 years ago
For the record, she WAS driving, so she had to be carrying her ID, and present it when requested.
DarthMalfoy 2 years ago
She was in the wrong for exercising her rights as a American, without being charged and because she wouldnt show her papers? I guess we should just say fuck it and all it United Socialist States of America like Nazi Germany?
bigjames88 2 years ago 2
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OK so now the Police have no right to ask if you are authorized to drive? SECTION 56-5-740. Obedience to authorized persons directing traffic.
No person shall willfully fail or refuse to comply with any lawful order or direction of any police officer, fireman or uniformed adult school crossing guard invested by law with authority to direct, control or regulate traffic.
Komitttt 2 years ago
Some interesting and important points regarding this video are:
- a police check point is legal as long as all vehicles passing through the check point are stopped.. but that's NOT what I see on this video..
- a police officer is not supposed to stop you or search your car at any time without a probable cause/reasonable suspicion..
- your right of property and privacy..
- charges were false; Abby Newman clearly does NOT assault the police officer neither is she resisting arrest..
nibirushock 2 years ago 14
i consider even police checkpoints to be illegal unless there is a national emergency or something important like cordoning off an area to find a fugative
Gizziiusa 1 year ago
@nibirushock they have more then two cops seeing everyones ids in the back
rhsjv 1 year ago
Generally, police can ask for proof that a person has a license to operate a motor vehicle if the officer has reasonable suspicion that a driving law violation has occurred. I see no proof of that in this video.
So, a big question here is if the officer was giving a "lawful order". A lot of people are not convinced that his stop was legal, or his orders were lawful.
Pafoofnik1 2 years ago 4
@Pafoofnik1 The stop certainly was not legal. It is very clear that you need reason to believe a crime has been committed to make a stop. They admitted they had none. Absolutely this was an illegal stop, and I hope this lady got justice.
ssn708 9 months ago
@ssn708: One cannot tell from this video whether this stop was legal.
Some checkpoints are legal. This may have been one of them.
DavidForthoffer 9 months ago
@DavidForthoffer Without reasonable suspicion to believe a crime has occurred, they can not make a stop. They allowed several cars, clearly seen in this video, to pass right through. Obviously they are not stopping "everyone", they are making arbitrary decisions as to who to stop and why without any reasonable suspicion of crime, as they admit in the video. SOME are legal (only because of judicial review, NOT because of law), this one is not legal. Thanks for being civil in this post ;-)
ssn708 9 months ago
@ssn708: You are again mistaken. It is possible for police to set up legal checkpoints, where vehicles are stopped without any suspicion of criminal activity. It is not true that all vehicles be stopped. The main criterion is that vehicles be stopped without any discretion on the part of officers, such as by stopping every fifth vehicle.
Read the U.S. Supreme Court case Michigan v. Sitz.
DavidForthoffer 9 months ago
@Komitttt: The key in Section 56-5-740 is "lawful order or direction".
It is NEVER lawful for an officer to deprive you of your constitutional rights, such as your right against unreasonable searches or seizures without a warrant.
DavidForthoffer 2 years ago
years ago there weren't so many laws, rules, regs, and such and a small govt. now we are taxed to death, and harrassed like this woman. now police make excuses to pull folks over. they even go so far as to make arrests to meet quotas. wake up man !!
Gizziiusa 1 year ago
@Komitttt Fuck off comittt . are you a cop? it seems so. you are just as sorry as they. may you all die and burn forever
spokenintoexistence 1 year ago
@Komitttt
Wake up..
CARE2DOTCOM 1 year ago
Richweir1 you don't even know your own rights, don't make dumb comments.
Xandrino 2 years ago 3
So you are saying you must have an ID even when not driving? Then why are citizens not ask for ID who do not drive. The DMV does not know your exist till you apply for license.
All all times you are a fucking moron. Thats the law.
Anothercoilgun 2 years ago
That´s the way it is in germany. Here you MUST take you ID etc. with you just in case...and it does not matter wether you´re driving or taking a walk ^^ I don´t really know why but we must cause if a policeman asks you to show him your ID and you have no ID with you he could arrest you as far as I know. I´ll have to ask about that at my local policestation.
Teaautomat 2 years ago
Yes, the police have the right to ask you for your ID any time. However, that does not give them the right to arrest you if you do not show ID.
You are NOT required by law to carry your ID at all times once you're over the age of 16. In fact you are not even required to POSSESS an ID, unless you drive a vehicle, must file taxes, etc..
DavidForthoffer 2 years ago
In Terry v. Ohio, the Supreme Court said, "an officer may not arrest a suspect for failure to identify himself if the identification request is not reasonably related to the circumstances justifying the stop".
DavidForthoffer 2 years ago 4