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  • Judge in Georgia wants Barry to appear on January 26, 2012. Wonder how Barry plans to get on any ballots with that FAKE BIRTH CERTIFICATE?

  • Who REALLY runs our world?

    US congresswoman Cynthia McKinney has come out and blamed the pro-Israel Lobby in America (AIPAC, ADL, ZOA, etc) for ruining her political career. While in congress she refused to sign the pro-Israel pledge and took a pro-Palestinian stance. Because of this, McKinney said “war was declared” on her by the Jewish lobby. In 2009 she told TIU's Ognir that “more than 99% of Congress work for Pro Zionist Israeli interests.”

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  • In private message #12 from MonfangHowlett, he wrote:

    "Why?

    Why did Obama do everything in his power to hide his records?"

    Please feel free to show evidence that Obama "hid" anything.

    "Why didn't Obama just show up on TV one day and show his Long Form Birth Certifricate the first day he was questioned?"

    Thats exactly what he did on Apr 27, 2011. Hawaii no longer issues long forms and hasn't for over a decade. The short form is their Standard issue birth certicicate. Try to keep up here.

  • In a private message, MonfangHowlett wrote to me:

    "I can't keep up with two people on one thread. If you don't want to do this one on one, that shows that perhaps you aren't entirely sure of yourself.

    Perhaps you live up to your name?"

    Becoming rude and condescending not only diminishes any credibility that you might have otherwise, it also kills the validity of your argument.

    Is that the best you got?

  • @arrrogantlyignorant lol! That's typical of birthers when they are losing.

  • @clarity023

    And they wonder why all their court cases fail? LOL

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  • fuck barry 

  • At the whitehouse(dot)gov website, Barrys' April 27, 2011 "long form birth certificate" is available as a pdf download. Upon opening and enlarging the file, about 800%, it's an obvious...

    FAKE BIRTH CERTIFICATE.

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  • @clarity023 Update, there is now a case going though the courts that could prevent Obama from being allowed to run in 2012 if it is shown that he is indeed not elegible to be President. Should it go though, expect all of Obama's actions to be redacted to the best of the Government's abilities.

  • @MonfangHowlett Which one? This one? /BUcyb5pmUKI.

    I don't know what are you smoking. Obama is an eligible president. He will be allowed to run again, wait and see.

  • @clarity023 If he was eligible and his birth certificate was real, then why did he hide it along with his school records and other information? Had it sealed away from any eyes but his own via executive order?

    And I mean this: wnd.com/2012/01/court-obama-mu­st-be-constitutionally-eligibl­e/

  • @MonfangHowlett Oh no recycling old debunked lies? Show me Bush's or other presidents records, I'll be waiting.

  • @clarity023 You do raise a valid point. I can't find any one else's records though googling. However, none of them ever publicly sealed them. I could go to Texas and request it though some long paperwork. Bush never had his records sealed away. Now answer the question, Why did Obama seal his Birth Records, his School Records and countless other records about him?

  • @MonfangHowlett Bush never had his records sealed away?! What do you mean by that? He never produced anything, grades, GPA. Obama sealed records?

    Obama is the only president who produced BOTH birth cert. the short one and the long form and you are still whining about it.

    What other "countless" records? Everybody's personal records are sealed, its the LAW.Privacy laws. What about Reagan's, Bush's father birth certificate, school records.

  • @clarity023 You are mistaken, Clarity. My and your personal records can be accessed by people with the right permissions. Media, Police, Government, businesses, ect. For example, if you or I took up a public servant office, our personal records can be easily accessed if doubt was cast over them such as in Obama's case. However, he used Lawyers and friends in high places like the Governor of Hawaii to keep them suppressed. I ask again.. why?

  • @MonfangHowlett Did you see the video /lnAoY_i5UGY go watch it. Dr Fukino and Lingle former gov of Hawaii( BOTH Republicans) certified that Obama was born there. Go watch it. What else do you want? 

  • @clarity023 Why did Obama work so hard and avoid all questions about his past and keep his records supressed? Why did he allow the Birthers to grow? Why did he do that? Why? Why? Why?

  • @MonfangHowlett

    "Why did he allow the Birthers to grow? "

    As a birther, you have this all backwards. Its not Obama's job to disprove every crank theory that anyone conjures up about him.

    He does not have the burden of proof, YOU do.

    Its up to you to provide evidence that disputes info he has already given, not the other way around.

  • @MonfangHowlett Where is indicated that a president has to show "his records" .

    Tell me where.

  • @MonfangHowlett /lnAoY_i5UGY

    Watch the video. Two Republicans certified that Obama was born in Hawaii, birther conspiracy is over. Get over it.

  • @MonfangHowlett Watch this video at :031-34 the idiot showing this video was trying to discredit Obama when showing "Indonesia" and he was not aware that he was also showing Obama's DOB and place: "Honolulu" 4.8.61 .This paper was part of

    Obama's school records when he was a child, hahaha birthers are dumb.

  • @clarity023 I didn't know you could read a non-English language. Tell me, what does 'negara' or 'lahir' mean? I'll help you out. 'lahir' means born while 'negura' means country.

    The video proves that Obama was a citizen of Indonesia thus inelegable to be President.

  • @MonfangHowlett I can't read that but it is common sense, there's only one "Honolulu" (in Hawaii) and 4.8.61 Obama's DOB, exactly as stated in his COLB and his long form. The video doesn't prove that he was an Indonesian citizen, he was born in Hawaii and his mother was American that makes him 100% American and you know it. Even children of illegal aliens are natural born except for diplomats. Read the Constitution and educate yourself first.

  • @clarity023 That raises a question i can not answer as the Founding Fathers to my understanding did not define what a 'natural-born citizen' is. However, the video stated that only Indonesia citizens could go to the school that record shows he goes to meaning that he was at one time a citizen of Indonesia.

    But I ask again, why did Obama work so very very hard to have his public records locked away from prying eyes? Why did he do that?

  • @MonfangHowlett That school was a public school. The school principal was interviewed by the Associated Press and he said that everybody can attend, Muslims, Americans, and even catholics, anybody of any religion. "Work so very hard to hide his records" can you explain?

  • @clarity023 Yes. 'anybody of any religion' not any nationality. I ask again, why did Obama work so very hard to have his records hidden from public view?

  • @MonfangHowlett Requirements:

    No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the US at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of 35 years, and been fourteen years a resident within the US

    Nowhere is indicated "personal records".

  • @clarity023 Sorry, it's getting late and I'm doing several of these at once. Public records are viewable via the Freedom of Information Act though the proper channels.

    Everyone's birth record's can be found though proper channels without our permission. Courts for instance can bring them up.

    I state again, Obama has used all of his power to keep his records suppressed from people who had full right to see it, why?

  • @MonfangHowlett Now you're leaving because you're losing your argument. Typical of birthers.

  • @MonfangHowlett

    "Everyone's birth record's can be found though proper channels without our permission"

    Obviously you've never read Hawaii Revised Statute §338-18

    I suggest you read it and educate yourself.

  • @MonfangHowlett HIPPA; PRIVACY LAWS FOR EVERYBODY Even the garbage collector of your community has his records sealed, is the law. Try to get school or medical records of "your" children when they turn 18.

  • @clarity023 Private records, not public records. Obama had his public records sealed from people who had full right to view the public records. I ask again, why?

  • @MonfangHowlett "Private records, not public records. Obama had his public records sealed" You're contradicting yourself.

  • @MonfangHowlett

    "Obama had his public records sealed"

    What public records are you referrring to?

  • @clarity023 I haven't gone anywhere. And I never will go anywhere until you answer one question.

    Why did Obama seal his public records from the eyes of the public that he served as a public servant in the highest seat of power in the United States and possibly the free world?

  • @MonfangHowlett What do you mean by "public records"? Show me how he sealed those.

  • @clarity023 I don't know how specifically. Some people point to Executive Order #13489, however I don't know if that is the full truth. All I do know is that Obama took an unusually long time and payed lawyers a lot of money to keep his Long Form Birth Certificate hidden and you refuse to answer why he would.

    Why? Why go though all that trouble and fan the flames of doubt? why not just come out and show it? Why didn't he just show it the first time it was questioned? Why?

  • @MonfangHowlett

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    "Executive Order #13489"

    EO 13489 pertains to *Presidential Records*, in other words, records created AFTER he became President. It does not cover personal records. Read the Presidential Records Act. It was actually much more restrictive under GW Bush's EO 13233. Obama simply returned it to how it was when Reagan signed EO 12667.

  • @MonfangHowlett

    "All I do know is that Obama took an unusually long time and payed lawyers a lot of money to keep his Long Form Birth Certificate hidden"

    He did no such thing. The COLB/2007 is the standard issue birth certificate from the State of Hawaii. Because of continued whining from birthers, Obama had to obtain a waiver of State policy, which was granted by Dir of Health Loretta Fuddy. Then they issued teh LFBC. It wasn't "hidden".

  • @MonfangHowlett Bush signed Executive Order too. All the presidents do that and has nothing to do with their personal records.

    Obama even produced his passport watch /UvqgyV_2pHg He didn't have to pay anything to hide anything that's birther bs, his long form bc video is here I'm pretty sure you saw it already, He released it long time ago.

  • @clarity023 A lot of things raise my doubts about hsi LFBC because of how hard he fought to keep it hidden, how long he kept it hidden, and why he kept it hidden.

    A question you are doing your best to avoid. Put yourself in Obama's shoes, why would you not show your LFBC to the public to shut them up and show how you are better than them?

  • @MonfangHowlett

    "why would you not show your LFBC to the public "

    Because he already provided the only type of birth certificate Hawaii has issued since 2001.

    He didn't fight to keep it hidden. He didn't hide it to begin with. How can it be hidden if he released it?

  • @MonfangHowlett Oh well all your questions have been answered, thank to arrrogantly. I see you don't have any more questions...

  • @MonfangHowlett

    "Why did Obama seal his public records from the eyes of the public"

    Exactly what records are you referring to and exactly what evidence do you have that he "sealed" them?

  • @MonfangHowlett

    "there is now a case going though the courts that could prevent Obama from being allowed to run in 2012"

    Exactly which case is that? What court is hearing it?

  • Typical birther nonsense. I'm particularly amused by the claim that this was a TV ad. What self respecting tv channel would air this drivel?

  • When I download and enlarge the April 27, 2011 "long form" digital certificate posted at whitehousedotgov, it looks like a poorly crafted digital forgery.  Wonder Barry posted a FAKE BIRTH CERTIFICATE?

  • @newdebate  HAHAHA olddebate just repeating an old birther record, birther you failed long time ago.

  • Taitz v Fuddy dismissed (updated)

    Judge Nishimura dismissed Taitz v Fuddy from the bench in Honolulu yesterday. In the suit, Birther attorney Orly Taitz sought to inspect President Obama’s original birth certificate, waving affidavits from “experts” saying it is a forgery.

    Another one bites the dust, hahahaha.

  • RON PAUL 2012 for REAL change because…

    * He has never voted to raise taxes.

    * He has never voted for an unbalanced budget.

    * He has never voted for a federal restriction on gun ownership.

    * He has never voted to raise congressional pay.

    * He has never voted to increase the power of the executive branch.

    * He voted against the Patriot Act.

    * He voted against the Iraq war.

    * He returns a portion of his annual congressional office budget to the U.S. treasury every year

  • we need ron paul that man will make this right and he will fight for our liberties he may not be able to fix everything but atleast he will try and i hope he sticks to his word still obama and bush are horrible presidents horrible obama has continuallys oh and sorry for my spelling im dyslexic i hope that doesn't discredit what i just said in my oppinion

    violated the constitution that he swore to protect and i believe he should be impeached

  • we need ron paul that man will make this right and he will fight for our liberties he may not be able to fix everything but atleast he will try and i hope he sticks to his word still obama and bush are horrible presidents horrible obama has continually

    violated the constitution that he swore to protect and i believe he should be impeached

  • plans but then we were under attack he made alot of stupid ass mistakes about the war and the way to handle it but im pretty sure any one of us would make a bad mistake obama is also sending troops to libya and more to iraq and afghanastan without permission of congress against the constitution we need to stop being in other countries business get out of this war work on domestic plans that dont take away liberties and work on bringing jobs back here i honestly think obamas a bad president

  • i cant stand obama he lied to us about alot dthe so calle dchange thing never happened he said he would take soilders out of afhganastan he did and sent them to iraq he is taking our rights and liberties away with new laws that make no sense hes keeping us in a war that will bankrupt and is bankrupting this country we need small goverment back non empire building polocies and work on domestic plans bush may have been a awfull president but before 9/11 he was gunna try to work on domestic

  • Fuck the constitution.

  • Just shut up and vote him out of office.

  • We cant impeach obama because he is black!!

    If he gets impeached black people will riot!!

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  • @WhatCanIsay100 we cant impeach pres. Obama because there's NO reason for impeachment. Stop smoking pot

    grow a brain!

  • @clarity023 Sorry, Proof of Natural born citizenry, or stfu. Airhead.

  • @FoxDavidson He already produced evidence, OVERWHELMING evidence that he was born in Hawaii if this wasn't the case Congress wouldn't certified his votes and SCOTUS wouldn't sworn him in in the first place. Read about JUS SOLI = born here=natural born go educate yourself and..

    GROW A BRAIN AND STFU! IDIOT!

  • @clarity023 Tell that to his Grandma.. In Kenya. Loud mouth.

  • @clarity023 Oh.. Also convince yourself how Obama's BC registry number is legitimate despite it not matching up to the other births in the Hospital of the day and time in regard. Surely your wealth of intelligence dictates humility opposed to regurgitating the recycled garbage the media forces down the throats of the average joe.... Like you. Genius.

  • @FoxDavidson recycling old debunked stupidity won't help you either, talking about the media, I think you are watching Fox and believing what that stupid paper WNutDaily says. Yeah right a black guy with Hussein in his name was not investigated long time ago... HE WAS A SENATOR BEFORE! Dimwit.

  • @FoxDavidson /n9mzJhvC-8E this is your problem: A punch in the liver for you birfers with the long form bc!

    LOL!

  • @clarity023 A page that cannot be found.. I'ma shakin' in ma boots..!

  • @FoxDavidson btw is not "citizenry" the correct way is citizenship... And YES Obama's citizenship is AMERICAN!

  • @clarity023 Of course his citizenship is American you retard. His Natural born status, which is required to be President, is not. Say it with me, D. E. R. P. <- See that..? That's you.

  • @FoxDavidson Retard? I think its the other way around:

    James Madison, The Founders’ Constitution Volume 2, Article 1, Section 2, Clause 2, Document 6 (1789)

    “It is an established maxim, received by all political writers, that every person owes a natural allegiance to the government of that country in which he is born. Allegiance is defined to be a tie, that binds the subject to the state, and in consequence of his obedience, he is entitled to protection…

    cont'd

  • @clarity023 Find me someone who was present at his birth in Hawaii, and will testify. Then I will believe you. But oh wait, you can't do that, because there isn't one person who has come forward. No hospital personnel, no family members, no friends. Ironic, no?

  • @clarity023 There is also the matter regarding his social security number which somehow he shares with a dead man from Connecticut. I am sure that is just coincidence, we hear about this sort of thing all the time now don't we? Oh wait, no we don't. Not unless Obama is in the habit of identity theft.

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  • @clarity023 The subject wasn't changed you incoherent buffoon. In fact if anyone is trying to deflect the issue, it's you. You're not even attempting to address the facts I stated now are you? Because you're without excuse.

  • @FoxDavidson cont'd The children of aliens, born in this state, are considered as natural born subjects, and have the same rights with the rest of the citizens.” Now are you going to deny what the Father of the Constitution said?!

    Born here=natural born did you read about JUS SOLI? Read, Read, Read!!

  • Why don't we impeach him for violating Article 1 sec 9 of the U.S. Constitution when he presided as head of the UN security council.

  • lmao yes there is a huge conspiracy the president is a kenyan the liberals want massive socialism abroad and the media elite is in on it all ... facepalm

  • @clarity023

    Did you notice that the April 27 "long form" PDF is a digital forgery?

  • Lies. Nothing more to say about this shit. He is legally the Prez. You racist assholes need to get over it.

  • @beatapt5 yeah i ignore the birther movement but Obamas policies are unconstitutional same for bushes so dont call me out saying i like Bush. these guys violate the bill of rights numerous of times and trample all over it.

    With these polices we might of well not have a 1st, 2nd,4th,9th and 10th amendment

  • Good, I hope he looses! Fucking lying cunt

  • Obama verses the Constitution (is) Obama verses The American People!

  • The scumbag nobama and his co-conspirators hide all the facts and the Truth about nobama's ineligibility for public office not to mention also his incompetence, ineptness and unAmerican values of marxist-muslim ideology and values.

  • When they pull you over for not wearing a seat belt don't dare come out of your car showing the kind of tactics Obama is using on the people. Jump out next time you get stopped, and refuse to show your drivers license. Better yet refuse to be groped by the TSA. Go to an airport and just walk past the TSA and tell them you will not give them ID. They will go crazy on you. Tell them not to touch you, and see what pain is. If you have a weak heart they might kill you.

  • I was wondering, did olddebate saw Obama's long form bc? He was always whining about it . He gave up. lol!

  • Oh, I agree! Furthermore, it's just the attitude - I don't have to show you people, you're just serfs.

  • Follow the money. Don't get lost chasing ghosts. Yes, our Constitution matters, just don't forget its the world's bankers who control everything you buy, sell or own. They also work for the Illuminati. It's a very simple pyramid of heirarchy, literally.

  • American Troops all over the world fighting what the elites deem necessary.All youth drafted.Travel restricted requiring permission to move freely even from city to city.UN troops on American soil enforcing the Obama/UN gun ban treaty.

    Is that what you want? That's the plan.Don't believe me? I don't want anyone to believe me.Don't believe Anyone.Do your homework.Use the net while you still can.All info will be controlled shortly if we can't stop the left and the RINO traitors.

  • Do you really want a North American union and NWO? Did you vote to have these self appointed rich elites divide the world up among themselves making you a slave to the state,every aspect of your life controlled by central planning?The Soros/Obama plan is America/Mexico/Canada as NA union. China,Russia and an Islamic caliphate dividing up the rest of the world.Misery for everyone but elites who will be KINGS.You had better kill the Patriots.You know who I mean.I will not be a slave.Will you?

    

  • All you fools that protect this KGB trained infiltrator Obama/Soros/Clinton will lose their liberty and lose the country that protects their natural rights the same as us "Tea-Party" people or whatever scapegoat race/class warfare Marxist trick they use to make slaves of their useful idiots.

    If you don't have a spot reserved under Denver Airport you are a useful idiot or about to be an un-willing slave.Useful idiots will have two targets on their backs and the first to go when TSHTF.

  • unless lobbyist are stopped bribing senators our system will never recover

  • Guy calls the cops. Send an officer over, there's a coon in my cellar. Cop says, be specific man, a raccoon or a nigger? Guy says, a raccoon, mother fucker, I'm a nigger. Go to: Her Name is Ms Ann. Then: Aaron Klein. Then: Larry Sinclair. Then: Phil Berg. Then: Rev. James Manning. obama must be imprisoned!

  • FACT: Obama's mother is an American citizen. What else matters in this argument? It's a non-story.

  • @CornerTalker I didn't see her on the ballot, retard!

  • @CornerTalker Fact.It takes two citizen parents and you need to be born on American soil without dual loyalties to be a Natural Born Citizen.The constitution always required the POTUS to be a Natural Born Citizen.We had just fought a revolutionary war with England.Our founders required NBC as a safe-guard to citizen's Liberty and sovereignty.Without it we wouldn't still exist.It's the tyranny Obama/Soros and their Open Society NWO want that NBC was supposed to protect us from.

  • @Grappler1911 I admit I did not know that, but now that I do it seems wrong: The child of an American isn't an American, but the child of two illegal immigrants is? On the topic, I do recall that Hitler wasn't a German, but an Austrian; Stalin wasn't Russian, but a Georgian; Napoleon wasn't French, but Corsican.

  • @CornerTalker No one is claiming he's not American or a citizen but the fact Obama will not allow any documents/evidence to be examined no one really knows who he is.Assuming he was telling the truth about who his parents are Obama is a citizen and can hold any office in the land except for POTUS or Vice P because he is not a NBC.

    That's the law.If I cut down a shotgun 1/2 inch too short do you think the federal government would give me a pass because I feel the law is stupid or antiquated?

  • @Grappler1911 Its getting worse for the birthers:  /lnAoY_i5UGY

    enjoy!

  • @clarity023 Do you believe the cockroaches will get away with a Coup d'état, manufactured economic collapse and the unrest after? Are you prepared? I am.You enjoy,I know I will.

  • Don't hate the playa, hate the game!

  • In my opinion, it does not matter where he was born. All these folks keep talking about the promises he made and how he hasn't accomplished them, yall need to shut up!!!! He is one man that has came into office with more than one problem to fix. How do you expect one person to get the economy out of a billion dollar deficit? You need to think about what he has to do first to make all the changes that you expect him to make. It takes time. If you think you can do better than you run for president

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  • @David12King Foreign aid is less than 1% of the budget. But yeah, end the wars.

    Wanna know why the deficit look worse under Obama than Bush? The Bush administration kept the wars' price tags off the books and thus it was just as bad, they just were not telling us.

  • @francomcneil Wow. I can see you really had your thinking cap on today...... Fucking retard. Do some research. Obama spent 10 times more on the stimulus bill than the wars cost us in 8 years. SORRY PAL. YOU WILL EVENTUALLY HAVE TO SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT BUSH AND ACCEPT THAT OBAMA IS A FAILURE.

  • @26denna so basically in your opinion the constitution of the United States of America is just something you wipe your sorry ass with? Why don’t you get out of my country? About the deficit its trillions of dollars not billions, obviously you have no real education on the matter, so what makes you think anyone cares about your opinion? Go learn about what your preaching buddy and come back when you have some facts...I’m guessing you’re just black and want to defend your "boy" huh? Move to Mexico

  • @26denna

    you got a good point there ,"how do we expect one person to fix the economy or the trillion dollar deficit?" how about that for a change >> we dont !!! instead we do it ourself and do not rely on one person or politicians (bought off by lobbist) for that matter,the funny part is...(example) we need to stop to be so dependent on foreign oil,yet all policies putt in place up today preventing us from doing so,we need to create jobs,yet regulations putt in place do not allow that......

  • At this point, I don't even care if he's born here or not. I'm disappointed in what he's promised and hasn't done in the white house. We are worse off then we were. Damn....lied to again, and I had high hopes for this guy.

  • OBAMA SUCKS!

  • It does'nt really matter though does it?

    I mean the why does only America abide with this quasi religious zeal to it's constitution. Its as if you are all conditioned from when you are kids?!

    It was written by a bunch of racist middle aged Englishmen.

    So just ignore it. It belongs in a museum. Just losely base a country on it, but stop getting so carried away, everyone in more developed countries keep laughing at you.

    Oh & by the way Obama really was just born in Hawaii

  • @EoTRrecorder I don't mean to be rude, but if you don't believe in the Constituion of the US, I think you are in the wrong country. Regardless of the types of men that wrote this, it's ideals are just for ALL and everyone in the US owe our liberty to such ideals.

  • Only you can fight for truth. Only you can stop the corruption. No one else matters when there is a crime and only you can see it; you have to stand up and address it. So, just because Obama is not eligible to serve as president doesn't mean he can't , it only means you know what you have to do. And if you don't, you deserve your consequences of corruption and injustice that bring misery to you. So get up on it, pray to God for guidance and the end of this great crime against us.

  • You are all fucking nuts. This is garbitch period

  • LOL, Barry Soetoro.

  • He went to Pakistan during the closing days of the Cold War & he goes out of his way to speak publicly with Communists & Islamic extremists. People dare call him "President.

  • We no longer follow the US Constitution only the Living-constitution. The Living-constitution preamble: We the Oligarchy of the US, in Order to form a more perfect central government, establish only criminal Justice, insure controlling Tranquility, provide for the common redistribution, promote social Welfare, and secure Liberty only to the Oligarchy and their Posterity, do establish this erratic unpublished constitution for the US.

    As for the people, they are on the road to serfdom.

  • Statesman Ron Paul is one of the few leading men in the Nation who can lead the U.S. on the Wise & Prudent Path to American Strength.

  • tgear77 confessed:

    "He used his stepfather's surname while the marriage lasted. The divorce between Ann Dunham and Lolo Soetoro occurred on Nov. 6th, 1980."

    When and where did Barry Soetoro legally change its' name to Barack Obama?

    Vote 2010. Impeach Soetoro 2011.

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  • @clarity023

    What is the name of the MD on Barrys' birth certificate?

  • The constitution was not created by white terrorist invaders infact the contitution was native american creation. White people everything stole and even they don't obey their 10 bible "god" commnadments ..these crackers are laughing matter

  • Why does this matter at all?

  • YES!!!!!!!

  • I love our Constitution, which grew like a strong tree trunk out of Creation's strongest roots -- God's love. From the Constitution, America has branched out into a beautiful tree -- but this tree must be tended gently and must grow in a balanced, natural way. And this tree must be flexible enough to withstand storms. Please help to tend this tree peacefully. "Blessed are the Peacemakers." ~ Jesus Christ

  • @eastariel I agree with what you say completely. However, with no disrespect intended, you illude to this country being founded on christian ideals. It was not. Nor any religions ideology. The founding fathers were diests, believing that there is a god, yet he does not involve himself in human affairs.

    "As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion" -Article XI Treaty of Tripoli

  • @Balsology

    Thanks. By the way, I wasn't talking about religion; I was talking about God and Jesus.

    I believe that church should not rule state, that state should not rule church, and that they both have access to God, Who belongs to us all.

  • @eastariel ...and... "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

    -Thomas Jefferson :)

  • @militiar5499

    How about if we just refresh that "tree of liberty" with a little of God's refreshing rain?

  • @militiar5499

    Thomas Jefferson also owned slaves. It's okay if humanity outgrows some of those old traditions in favor of nicer ones.

  • @eastariel

    You're right...but outgrowing older traditions in favor of nicer ones has to be accomplished through legal, constitutional means. Perhaps an ammendment can be made to the Constitution, but until then, IF this video is true, the President violated the law.

  • And if you support the constitution than I don't see how you can support the invasions of Iraq or Afghanistan, because they were not even legal invasions, congress did not declare war on these nations, and treaties like the UN charter were violated.

  • You know what the problem is with this video? If Obama's dad is really Lolo Sotoro, than how is Obama's grandmother that Kenyan lady that claims Obama was born in Kenya, and why would she say in an interview with Journeyman Pictures that the first time he came to visit her in Kenya he was 6(big contradiction)?

  • @knowthetruth1492 When Obama went to school in Indonesia, Indonesia was at war at the time, only children of citizens could attend school. Lolo Soetoro had to either adopt or acknowledge him so he could be registered for school. Most likely he acknowledged him as Muslims don't usually practice adoption because of Muhammad being against it.

  • @courag1 , Who the hell told you muslims are against adoption? Mohammed(pbuh) him self was an orphan when he was a child and when he got older he adopted kids himself.

  • You know nothing of the plight of orphans in Sharia ruled countries. Why don't you take a break from your hate spewing and look up the problem of orphans in Iran and Afghanistan.

    Muhammad had an adopted son but when he lusted after his son's wife, his opportunistic teaching against adopting orphans was born. Muslims find themselves on either side of abrogation, those who know which verses came last in the Koran know that adoption has been abrogated.

  • @courag1 , I don't care what they do in Iran or Afghanistam. Im talking about what the Qur'an and sunnah teaches. Would you like it if I said catholics support sleeping with little boys simply because some catholics bo this? Just an example.

  • @courag1 Wrong,any child could go to public school at that time in Indonesia. The registration form that is shown across the Internet is for a private school that taught the Koran to its students one period a day. Obama had already been at school in Indonesia for 2 years at that point when his mother and step-dad wanted him to go to the private school. It is most likely that they lied on the form in order to get Obama into the school.

  • @tgear77 Why do you defend a president who is taking Arizona to court for human rights abuses by upholding its law which isn't even as strict as Federal law, jeopardizing the US sovereignty and putting Arizona up as a laughing stock?

    We don't build churches when they are bombed, but we build new mosques, rebuild those we've damaged and even those we haven't damaged. All on the US tax dollar.

    Why would a Christian want to restore a mosque?

  • @courag1 Why wouldn't a Christian? Obviously your Bible and my Bible are not the same if you have to ask that question.

    As for Arizona, Jan Brewer turned it into a laughing stock by passing the law that allows for racial profiling. And John McCain has made it worse for his pitiful attempts to win favor with the Tea Party. And John Kyl for lying about crime statistics. Let's not pretend Arizona is a place to be proud of.

  • @tgear77 We've had a bloodless coup and you support the usurper. You are a traitor and deserve what will happen when the loyal countrymen regain the vote and overturn your pretender in power.

  • @courag1 No, we had a legal election and the eligible Democrat won. You are obviously just a piss-poor loser. I am not a traitor, in fact I served my country in the US Army. Did you ever get off your ass and serve? If not, then shut the fuck up. By 'loyal countrymen', you mean crazy lying Republicans who only care about the rich?

  • @tgear77 Benedict Arnold served in the Army as well. Being in the military doesnt mean someone cant be guilty of treason. Im not implying that you are, just saying that doesnt exsempt one from being a traitor.

  • @RebelliousPatriot OK. if you want to get technical about it. Yes, there have been traitors in our military over our history. But today, with an all-volunteer force, it is far more likely that people who volunteer do so in the interest of serving our country, rather than bitching and moaning about it like courag1 and others. For an asshole like him to call me a traitor not only is hypocritical, but insulting.

  • @tgear77 well i cant say where your alligance lies, as a soldier you and I both know you swore an oath to the Constitution. This makes you a servant of the people and not the Federal Government any ties we as U.S. citizens have to the Federal Government are negated by the Constitution. So alligance to the Feds over the people does make one a traitor, again not implying you are. But i find it very odd you side with this administration on the Arizona immigration issue, the place is a war zone.

  • @tgear77 Something needs to be done, U.S. border patrol agents are being fired at, druge cartels are putting bounties on the heads of citizens and officers of the peace. The police dont have enought fire power to combat these issues, and when ythey do catch and illegal they must simply throw them back to try again.

  • @knowthetruth1492 Lolo Sotoro was his stepfather, but legally his father.

  • @DanJeffery07

    Lolo was not his legal father, Barack Obama Sr was and you know it, but in case he was that wouldn't affect Obama at all!

    Why these birthers are so dumb?

  • @clarity023 As far as Indonesia was concerned, Mr.Sotoro was his legal father,. If Obama is a legal natural born citizen, why not just release his legal original long form, it would shut 99% of us "birthers" up. By traveling to Pakistan, he would not have had US citizenship, so even IF he was born in the US, he lost his citizenship when traveling to Pakistan, had he regained it back, he would be a Naturalized citizen, NOT Natural Born. the Constitution says Natural Born, not "Born in America"

  • @DanJeffery07

    What about showing me former presidents original bc? The Bushes? Why Congress or the Supreme Court are not asking for it? Why he was sworn in without any objection? Recycling old debunked lies wont make them true even if you repeat them.

    Did you know that 70+ lawsuits against Obama have been dumped already? Yep, and you are just a sore loser because you lost your ass in the election. Get over it or move to another country.

  • @DanJeffery07 Hawaii's Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, examined it and approved it under oath.

    Yet people like you still don't believe.

    "I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen."

  • @DanJeffery07 Any US citizen could travel to Pakistan at the time Obama did using their US passport. There was no travel ban. No matter what Indonesia considered Soetoro to be in regards to Obama, that did not affect his US citizenship at all since he could not lose it under US law. As far a NBC is concerned, being born on US soil makes you one.

  • Brought to you by hippocrates that support the unconstitutional patriot act.

  • @knowthetruth1492 Who says everyone who is demanding his birth certificate supported the Patriot Act? Also it is worthwhile noting that you seem to lack any opposition to his Admin signing an extension of the Patriot Act.

  • @CRTV1982 , Most people I see demanding Obama's birth certificate are supporters of the patriot act, but I might be wrong. Ofcourse Im opposed to the Obama administration signing an extension of the patriot act.

  • @knowthetruth1492 Okay we are on the same page on that part. I have seen many people who are opposed to the Patriot Act when Bush signed it but also ignored it when Obama signed the extension. I have seen just the opposite on those who believe Obama needs to show his birth certificate. Many of them do get pissed off when they hear people who talk of it solely to rip on Bush and forget that Obama signed the extension. You take it easy out there.

  • @knowthetruth1492 Hippocrates supported the Patriot Act? Now that's one psychic greek philosopher. Did Pythagoras support NSPD 51? And did Democritus ratify FISA and put it a time capsule?