kid first of all i play dota since very begging 2003 when it was made up, and you kid 14 assume u play it for about 3 days. Go run -test mode and put on troll butterfly, satanic, buriza, monkey king bar, black king bar, power treads. Put on alche whatever u want. Hope u know some things: that 1.4sec basher item has 2sec cooldown VS. troll 2sec bash non cooldown and by putting him in melee form reducing base atack time to 1.55 combinated with fervor what makes troll unkillable
@everlastcro yes in test mode,but in normal game you cant have more gold than alche,he has this items earlier than troll and he can kill bara,ursa,bala and troll. and i play dota 4,5 years but every day 10 or more games..
Alche ult 1.20 wont help him to much. Hope you know calculating attack speed formula if u ever heard of it. Active mkb satanic and troll's ult for instant kill. The only advantage alche has is early game over troll, after full build and late game troll beats crap of alche END OF STORY.
that was stupid. troll should have won for sure. troll didn't blind. what u expect!!! stupid. unless alchamist has MKB, there is no cause of worry for troll.
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man ur such a big noob..two bashers dont stack and probably troll was an idiot who didnt had any good items...i could easy kill u with troll with hel and boots only....
its the same name as now but the increase in attrack speed ms and hp regen is far more better then now which comes cheap when u are loaded with 2 bashers and MOM
(this works in 6.38 you can dl the map at getdota)
troll is a complete carry they changed him to aoe battle trance the only reason u think hes half support is becuz he was an op carry with basher that stack if u got like 2 thats so op i rape with him even without bashers u get treads and maxe beserkers rage and there u can bash a lot it always works gg fever +ult + treads + lvl 4 beserkers rage = GG
it's good it give atack speed to all i have done 1000 assists with ulti someone fight on map and u can help him with ulti,and 3 spell is better it's just swaped with rexar's 3
what ever man! go insult me all u want... Jahrakal sucks now..... anywayz.... I dont give a fuck if u call me a monkey ass or blah4x u'll end up losing to your so called " Monkey Ass " which will make u worse than monkey ass! hahahah OWNED!
???what the fuck are you talking about? i am absolutely not going to play with public noobs...sorry...get a team and join IGC league, then i may face you...
haha noob troll... why didnt he get miss skill...and probably that troll isnt as well equiped as the achemist is.....but ache has nice ult to stay in lane with super regen and low cooldown
Do you know, the hell of attack speed the bastard DID? Look at those items, how many do you see which gives a lot of Atk speed? Treads?CAN YOU IMAGINE IF HE HAD A FREAKIN BUTTERFLY / AC / HYPERSTONE WITH THE TREADS? WITH BASHERS STILL STACKING!
No blind, no fun.
Earthshaker89 2 months ago
troll is shit hero for noobs who are scared to lose
P.S: who can't own with troll and alch is alot more fun hero to play
Vector122 3 months ago
alchemist lol two basher jajaja rolf ! sky jaja lol . Troll noob
xLeTz 3 months ago
well with 2 bashers i dont see a reason why wont alche would won...
SeddincY 3 months ago
DotA secret: Alch has highest Attack speed in Dota and with a basher perma bashes the best
monkeybarrel67 4 months ago
hahaha thats not troll its a neutral creeps........
etmmateo 5 months ago
wait wtf its troll or balanar?
EauDtwat 5 months ago
i really want to play those old maps! where 2 basher stacked especially with troll. :((
moguledge123 5 months ago
FUK U AND DOTA
DrMBen 5 months ago
my EARS are bleeding
MrNevermore96 5 months ago
alchemist is like drumming the music
MarkzBaui26 6 months ago
troll had 6 ironwood branchs
everlastcro 7 months ago 11
@everlastcro alche can kill troll,when he have full items.
GregorDotAPlayer 5 months ago
@GregorDotAPlayer
he cant kill troll dont make me to explain you
everlastcro 5 months ago
@everlastcro you play dota 3 days? go buy basher,buriza ,hot,mom,assault and bot on alche. he is unstoppable with his U
GregorDotAPlayer 5 months ago
@GregorDotAPlayer
kid first of all i play dota since very begging 2003 when it was made up, and you kid 14 assume u play it for about 3 days. Go run -test mode and put on troll butterfly, satanic, buriza, monkey king bar, black king bar, power treads. Put on alche whatever u want. Hope u know some things: that 1.4sec basher item has 2sec cooldown VS. troll 2sec bash non cooldown and by putting him in melee form reducing base atack time to 1.55 combinated with fervor what makes troll unkillable
everlastcro 5 months ago
@everlastcro yes in test mode,but in normal game you cant have more gold than alche,he has this items earlier than troll and he can kill bara,ursa,bala and troll. and i play dota 4,5 years but every day 10 or more games..
GregorDotAPlayer 5 months ago
@GregorDotAPlayer
like i said he has early game but he doesnt have late game. Speaking of gold alche can build him self very fast thx to goblins greed.
everlastcro 5 months ago
@GregorDotAPlayer
Alche ult 1.20 wont help him to much. Hope you know calculating attack speed formula if u ever heard of it. Active mkb satanic and troll's ult for instant kill. The only advantage alche has is early game over troll, after full build and late game troll beats crap of alche END OF STORY.
everlastcro 5 months ago
troll just have 1 item and it's ironwood branch
predragmsmstefanovic 7 months ago
look at his item..........
minmichmin 7 months ago
50% chances to bash.. zzzz
hawxable 7 months ago
basher stack in old maps?????? o.O
hawxable 7 months ago
anda imbecil
el troll no tenia nada hasta cachar con tu perro
MyGatito18 8 months ago
@Punkk1770 -- this was probably before you even started playing. MKB didn't have truestrike until later. And back then you could stack bashes.
KillMaimMurder 8 months ago
woa basher used to stack :D
thejacks100 8 months ago
what shit is this a fkin scam? fk off
phobos685 9 months ago
KKK
brothesbest 9 months ago
that was stupid. troll should have won for sure. troll didn't blind. what u expect!!! stupid. unless alchamist has MKB, there is no cause of worry for troll.
punkK1770 9 months ago 4
@punkK1770 this is a 2007 video so mkb doesnt have a true strike effect in this. i cant believe in the dumbfucks that thumbs-upped you.
lolwhat19 3 months ago
you is very noob stupid
andres313ful 2 months ago
ya troll was vry weak
pkaskar 9 months ago
i bet $500 that troll will die
Topnoch234 9 months ago
i bet troll had only boots and nothing else
damnthatbastard 9 months ago
LOL DOUBLE BASHER
GeXtian14 10 months ago
@GeXtian14 old dota 2 bash stack.. version 6.36 (2006)
TheHi4444 8 months ago
2 brasher...fuck off alchemist
imoogidragon 10 months ago
@imoogidragon old version idiot 6.36 2 bash was stack moron
TheHi4444 8 months ago
wew troll is not stronger nor weaker than alchemist it depends on how you use the hero
ZanpaktouMaster1 11 months ago
of course Troll didn't blind him, that spell's terrible 1v1. OH WAIT.
SoaringMuse 1 year ago 3
2 cranium basher
dxball21 1 year ago
@dxball21 It Stacks in that version :)
gacm1840 10 months ago
it depends on how the player control the hero...,
VeTeRaNFrEdEriX 1 year ago
Alchemist ordered his fat "goblin?" to rape the troll
novipazar2003 1 year ago
troll is weak...... it would give you such a dishonor to fight a hero weaker than you..... BTW troll should have win
mzterblade 1 year ago
This is not DOTA..!!!,
iWOWIE 1 year ago
troll was like OMG who's slapping in my face
adsfadsfadsfadsfa 1 year ago
if both heros were stacked troll would still win anyways but someone got PWNED
KSizbored4life 1 year ago
stupid troll
rapydarap 1 year ago
yeah wath a full equiped alchemist vs a troll with 6 branches?
cseijif 1 year ago
nag papahabol ang troll weak!
montefolkanashra 1 year ago
lmao.....that troll didn't blind him....so there is no chance that Alchemist will miss all his hits
kokokoko886 1 year ago
ewww 6.36 troll didnt have his upgrades yet :(
wraithofagony 1 year ago
HAHA TROLL GOT PERMABASHED!
iigguuee 1 year ago
troll is a chick -_-
MegaThrylos7 1 year ago
yeah try me to fight that troll is stupid
axintadozz 1 year ago
HAHAHA troll sucks!!!!!!!
HEYFUCKYOUFUCKER 1 year ago
lol noobs kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
jeversomREVOLUCAO 1 year ago
i placed my bet on alchemist, i was right!
Ramell95 1 year ago
Ooh... I placed my bets on Troll :/
useemeroll 1 year ago
lols... why that alchemist got so many stats... and his hp and mana, wow!
hello12343106 1 year ago
wew....waste of time...
chanfire123 1 year ago
wow fuckin attack spped, only has treads for attack speed
ianboyshit69 1 year ago
@ianboyshit69 skadi gives agility wich gives att speed
keepaalo 1 year ago
@ianboyshit69 his ulti increases his attack speed
redecember 1 year ago
dude double basher alchemist for sure
souljaboyp2pf2p 1 year ago
lol does basher stack ?
emokidx2 1 year ago
@emokidx2 Look at the fucking dates. people are sick and tired of these comments.
sonatakrump 1 year ago
why r u making this movie? everybody knows that troll would win with full gear. Its like showing a lvl 1 vs a lvl 25.
xxFuttexx 1 year ago
hahhaha
MekZz47 1 year ago
when u have rly good Equip and trol have only tread you win ;)
Novotnajz 1 year ago
i..think..trol..dosent..have..items...your.fuckin.hel..in.making.this.video...and..balanar..is..also.weak..if..i.use...balanar,.i..kill..twice.per..minute
TheUnknownz26 1 year ago
Whoever gets stunned first, wins. :]
killing530 1 year ago
lol...no blind?
myrene123 1 year ago
BASH BASH BASH :d
pl00xpalla 1 year ago
lolzzz
razor could pwn alchemist
lolzzz804 1 year ago
lolzzz trod didnt have items XD... and alchemist is not bad but no good -.-
lolzzz804 1 year ago
this is version 3.36 cranium basher used to stack then 2 craniun bashers + insane IAS by alchemist = TOTAL OWNING....!!! :D
patgabriel31 1 year ago
noob vs retard . who will win. actually u both fail
Rveimathras 1 year ago
retard will win for sure xD
xue9081 1 year ago
troll item??
hkcomplete 1 year ago
HEY HOW TO EDIT VIDEOS|?
and upload replays FROM DOTA...
WAtcher21ful 1 year ago
do you want 1v1 same chars?
electro545 2 years ago
does cranium bash???
pokeng 2 years ago
@pokeng i meant does it stacks
pokeng 2 years ago
/watch?v=RDYJ2DP2
TheZico92 2 years ago
i wanna know troll's item
bneneee 2 years ago
thats shit( troll's equipment was very poor, but alchemist's...
MrFatehunter 2 years ago
the troll si so noob :))
Aciletnobi 2 years ago
troll blind roll him
329004650 2 years ago
why!! did he said that ALCHEMIST is no fun anymore!! in 6.36b?
n8mare28cj 2 years ago
mm can some1 say me a build for alchemist in 6.65 and do really 2 bashers stack?
tomasgonzales 2 years ago
basher no longer stacks. For my build i go for
threads
armlet
vanguard
heart(if tanking)
usually a blademail ends with the game. Hope i helped
dragontqh08 2 years ago
ahaha that troll is very weak !!!
quitiloveyou 2 years ago 16
@quitiloveyou troll is not a weak!......many dota players love troll!
TheBheng07 1 year ago
@quitiloveyou what do you mean "weak" ? It' was all about the fucking luck - if that troll bashed everytime it's gg for alchemist.
ColinPower1 5 months ago
he should blind him
5Efanz1 2 years ago
night stalker died
daun206 2 years ago 48
that was stupid vs... troll didnt use blind and i bet he had no items at all...
papilos72 2 years ago
mounted
Pablososki14 2 years ago
hey man.. this is an old version where 2 basher can stack. so stfu mengokeri1..
champion1ish 2 years ago
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man ur such a big noob..two bashers dont stack and probably troll was an idiot who didnt had any good items...i could easy kill u with troll with hel and boots only....
menkogeri1 2 years ago
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tanjians 2 years ago
how come people always call the dude who wins a noob :/
UserIsAlreadyTaken 2 years ago 2
yes troll is better than alche in killing heroes, i agree on what u said helm and treads in troll is very necessary
SuperYouloveit 2 years ago
old ver man... 2bashers...
mefikFS 2 years ago
come on. did troll have any items?
Aivazzz 2 years ago
wakao..troll lose!!!really bo???
shangxingyu 2 years ago
i did not knwo that basher could stack
doombringr99 2 years ago
I didn't see that coming.
Medevenx 2 years ago
double basher + skadi... who can run away ? XD
koopatheone 2 years ago
what is alche's old ulti? don't knw bout tht. i only used him last week.
Swampert890 2 years ago
i really wanted alche's old ulti back =/
Life4Bl00d 2 years ago
what was the old utli ? Gives Bonus HP, Attack Rating, Ms Bonus and regen
eliminatorbg 2 years ago
i rmb that the increase in attrack speed , ms and regen rate is much more than the new one
maybe 125% increase?? they nerfed him now
damn icefrog
Life4Bl00d 2 years ago
they changed it because of balance. all heroes need balance.
alche cant be the strongest so they changed it
to be fair
BetaTricks 2 years ago
yeap true i have to say his ulti was a LITTLE too imba
Life4Bl00d 2 years ago
wat was his old?
newera8161993 2 years ago
its the same name as now but the increase in attrack speed ms and hp regen is far more better then now which comes cheap when u are loaded with 2 bashers and MOM
(this works in 6.38 you can dl the map at getdota)
try it out urself =)
Life4Bl00d 2 years ago
items plays a great role.. for sure jarakal doesnt have any item.. he didnt even blind the alchemist.. noob side..
GNHEpril 2 years ago
Ever tried Alche ulti lvl 3 + Mask of madness? :P
Maybe matches Ursa's attack speed.
Try it! =)
klizarid18 2 years ago
He didn't even blind. Former troll sucked.
New 6.60 is way better now he can actaully do something.
FrozenIce51 2 years ago
Troll is better before 6.60 ver.
ltajov 2 years ago
troll 3rd skill makes him attack faster each attack so more chance of bash + ulti
icybid 2 years ago
i didn't even see troll's items.
lxpvanaa 2 years ago
hahaha :))) troll's ulti goes perfectly with the 3rd spell :| u got AS like hell....
VisSarD 2 years ago
troll is a complete carry they changed him to aoe battle trance the only reason u think hes half support is becuz he was an op carry with basher that stack if u got like 2 thats so op i rape with him even without bashers u get treads and maxe beserkers rage and there u can bash a lot it always works gg fever +ult + treads + lvl 4 beserkers rage = GG
ChoasKid141 2 years ago
is that the old ver where basher didn't have cd and stacked?
retardfunny 2 years ago
Heres my tip, RoB->boots->pt->MoM->Basher->hyperstone->sny and hot
Xanoran 2 years ago
troll that hasnt used blind so he can own any hero = FAIL
Sadfying 2 years ago 2
troll wwas noob you need to fight me while i am playing with a troll then we will see who will win
yousef858 2 years ago
basher used to be 15% (melee) 10% (range, same) didnt have cd also but it used to stack with other basher passives. too bad it doesnt anymore :*(
DaMnUFo0 2 years ago
1. Bashers used to stack.
2. Wazzup with the fkn noob troll who didn't use blind? I placed my blind assuming troll would be able to use his one and only click to cast-spell.
coC0drile 2 years ago
Bashers don't stack anymore
nhojramyer23 2 years ago
yeah but u got a 25% for bash..
Strahoz 2 years ago
troll is better now than he was if u say troll now sux u are just big noob
kocest 2 years ago
He sucks now... Really. Battle trance is just gay now.
AntiBlackPeople 2 years ago
it's good it give atack speed to all i have done 1000 assists with ulti someone fight on map and u can help him with ulti,and 3 spell is better it's just swaped with rexar's 3
kocest 2 years ago
Troll is barely a carry now. He's half carry and half support.
AntiBlackPeople 2 years ago
i know! he sucks now cuz he can barely kill someone 1 on 1 w/out a support! I dont like his new Ulti at all! plus it only last 5 secs... its so gay!
genokaihl008 2 years ago
it lasts 8 seconds on you....5 seconds on your mates (allies)
don't post noobie posts :P
qazwsxcp 2 years ago
noobie post! hahah! look whoose talking.. u dont even know how good i play dota dumbass!
genokaihl008 2 years ago
i can guess that you suck monkey ass...
if you can't even read the changelogs or the skill-text....jeesus...
qazwsxcp 2 years ago
what ever man! go insult me all u want... Jahrakal sucks now..... anywayz.... I dont give a fuck if u call me a monkey ass or blah4x u'll end up losing to your so called " Monkey Ass " which will make u worse than monkey ass! hahahah OWNED!
genokaihl008 2 years ago
???what the fuck are you talking about? i am absolutely not going to play with public noobs...sorry...get a team and join IGC league, then i may face you...
qazwsxcp 2 years ago
wateva!.....
genokaihl008 2 years ago
they actually buffed him in 6.63 hes a lot better now.
NikEmmer 2 years ago
really? well atleast his better now!
genokaihl008 2 years ago
the video didnt show the build of troll...
thats fake....
scripted!!!
donkang01 2 years ago
bashers dont stack noob
xxxViceroyxxx 2 years ago
Troll was perfect how he was before, he didn'T need remake.
As for alche, he was a beast on older versions.
bill7907 2 years ago
bashers used to stack, scrub
RoZeWhip 2 years ago
no they didnt
xxxViceroyxxx 2 years ago
I've been playing dota since 6.43, yes they do noob.
RoZeWhip 2 years ago
no they dont
xxxViceroyxxx 2 years ago
in the versions before 6.60 they stack
fcmerces 2 years ago
did you read the end or when this was posted up ? lolol noobed it
DustinLe 2 years ago
hey there is now 6.60 version!!!!
25melody 2 years ago
xD 2 Cranium Basher ^^ :D
epsylonfilms 2 years ago
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooob
ofcourse if troll has no items. i could beat him with teckies
zkostakis 2 years ago 2
troll Fresh meat ! but he stranger than alchemist and it 6.36((
000UA000 2 years ago
no blind fail
DrTinactin 2 years ago
alchemist always overdoses himself in 6.36. that was a super gay attack speed.
keatman 2 years ago
haha noob troll... why didnt he get miss skill...and probably that troll isnt as well equiped as the achemist is.....but ache has nice ult to stay in lane with super regen and low cooldown
BurnsidE07 2 years ago
bullshit....
nick19greek 2 years ago
omg he didnt played 1vs1 he must have been playing WW heroes..
panajotovic93 2 years ago
yep the bash dosen't stack anymore ...but still alchemist rullzzz
nicoladan95 2 years ago
in 6.59b alchemist can no longer permabash dont know why but he still has the fastest attack speed of them all(when in chemical rage)
scr3wthegovernment 2 years ago
Basher has a 2 sec CD now :(
WTFuCz 2 years ago
wat is the item of troll? noob alchemist... having gem?? for wat?
n3tk3n3t 2 years ago
i think the gem is for the lothars of troll
scr3wthegovernment 2 years ago
ah.. okey...
n3tk3n3t 2 years ago
play vs me(troll) n then say u win with alchi vs troll... noob
LejdiJ 3 years ago
Do you know what Alch was 6.36!
Do you know, the hell of attack speed the bastard DID? Look at those items, how many do you see which gives a lot of Atk speed? Treads?CAN YOU IMAGINE IF HE HAD A FREAKIN BUTTERFLY / AC / HYPERSTONE WITH THE TREADS? WITH BASHERS STILL STACKING!
WTFuCz 2 years ago
noob troll la
proexno1 3 years ago
troll noob no miss magic
ducanemanja 3 years ago
alchemi is fixed... now his ulti doesnt give so much attack speed ..and headless on alche ?! WTF :D
eliminatorbg 3 years ago