Plasma water splitting injector

[DrKrapulax]

This is cool and all, but has nothing to do with "plasma". It's splitting H2O and then burning the H2.

[ncgoh1113]

can we used this sistem in our car ? for play ekzos flame fire.?

[stonerj0e]

the power is a little less than what you put into it .

[fafadi13]

here there's a problem the carbon electrode does not last long, with a HV we risk damaging them.

[ChrisPCrunchy]

@fafadi13 Electrodes are consumable items, They are meant to errode to give the carbon component found in the gas. Carbon is extremely cheap or free, now I use waste products that cost to money dispose of to landfill, so in theory I could make a profit by making a free fuel gas to run my vehicles.

[honda4004]

hi chris melvin here from england ,just wondered if you have ever searched google for the simple (once again ) design of a guy called CARL CELLA .if not would you please reply on the possibility of his design .A working well,and B that andrija puharich and stanley meyer may well have just nano sized his design down to the outer wall of an injector being the positive and the inner electrode being the negative,,

[fafadi13]

What is the voltage in volts and amps the intensity and frequency used in this system.

[mxcfactor]

How will this help me in life?

[fafadi13]

Will you put your plans on the internet system.

[giftedo]

Chris... I would really like to know more about your injector, Please Please let me know where to get more information on this or a way to get in touch with you. the video is just really unclear and maybe possibly if you can describe in more detail, and maybe get a closup of the injector. You have a really good idea here. Thanx a watching enthusiast!

[SPAMMYWHOSPAM]

how useless

[ChrisPCrunchy]

How would you know? Did you know that most early internal combustion engines did NOT run on gasoline. Whos to say they have to run on it now?

[gracetime]

Chris .. I too would like to join the forum your referring too? I would like to be in the loop ;). Does the spark overheat the spark plug over time? Where is a good place to start learning about this type of technology?

[asisin]

Can you describe your setup a little please? Whats that noise I hear - some kind of make and break circuit with a spark gap? Also how are you getting the water into that 'chamber' and producing the mist? This is very interesting stuff

[ChrisPCrunchy]

The laws of physics are being expanded therefore re-written as we speak. Quantum Physics sees theories put forward and expanded continiously. The Bumble Bee thing was an error in calculation and a misunderstanding by certain individuals of the laws of physics and should not be used as an example to disprove anything.

[Krawnikal]

This is true.

Have you checked out David Sereda's theory on moving faster than the speed of light? Makes a lot of sense.

[DDTea]

Have you heard of the Variable Speed of Light theory in cosmology by João Magueijo ? Interesting stuff, but cosmology has more theories than evidence...

However, quite a few other people have postulated that natural constants, like the Gravitational Constant, have changed over many millenia.

[Krawnikal]

True. It seems to me gravity is almost like a resistance of the surrounding element, for example water, things are more afloat(life is carbon, so it's atomic mass is lighter than water) and things also tend to be lighter underwater, but in air/oxygen enviroments, carbon elements are grounded(carbons atomic mass being lighter than oxygens atomic mass). Also gravitational effects are different in such enviroments.

[commando7144]

hydrogen in a combustion engine burns so efficient that you have to time the engine at top dead center where as gasoline fire before tdc creating stress on the connecting rods heat loss so even tho you have to create more energy than you get out of it it blows gasoline away in many aspects

[renderrob]

afaik, with hydrogen you actually want the timing to be after TDC.

[KypHeM]

The law states that you ALWAYS need more energy to produce ANY energy. Its the fundametal LAW of physics.

[ChrisPCrunchy]

I do not and have not ever denighed that. An internal combustion engine is up to about 30% efficient. 70% goes out the radiator or through the tail pipe. What I am trying to do is to find a process that recovers that heat to make a flamable gas to run the engine longer. Or in the case of this experiment to find an electrically assisted/regulated chemical reaction that makes a gas that can run the engine. I am no free energy nutbag. I work within the realm of reality.

[snapdragon69]

All the energy we use takes more gross energy than the net energy. People aren't changing any LAWS here. If I burn some rubbish, sure the rubbish probably took more energy to make than I will get back in my fire. Its the LAW.

[ChrisPCrunchy]

Yes but if you could find a way to run your car on the energy contained in rubbish, as the rubbish cost you nothing why would you be concerned how energy efficient the process is?

[porscheleenj]

YOu're right, its the law of thermodynamics. So the ppl with the free energy magnet machines are liars (sorta, unless you count energy spent making it spin, not energy spent).

[happyvalley808]

Thanks for sharing your great findings..

Nothing is impossible, except your state of mind makes it so.( For the non believers )

[ChrisPCrunchy]

Thanks for comment. Ive always though that too. There are so many CANT DO people out there it gets depressing. Its a wonder we arent still living in caves.

[porscheleenj]

Can't do? I guess I'm like that type of person, however, I do what science proves is correct. So if you can prove something, I'll believe it (no video editing please; not saying you are) and I believe that your "plasma water splitting injector" (pardon the quotes) will work.

[happyvalley808]

Would you be willing to share your design?

[ChrisPCrunchy]

Not sure if this system is stable enough for use. I am working on another system that uses car exhaust heat and gasses, carbon electrodes and an iron catalyst. I am experimenting with small amounts of other elements to give a temperature boost to exhaust gases enough to allow the refomation of exhaust into a Hydrogen rich gas with low carbon content which can be fed back into unmodified engine. This process has proved very sucessful and may be marketable soon.

[happyvalley808]

funny you say that, using exhaust gas is something i just put on my list of ideas to play with... Will you be patenting this ?

Or sharing it ?

[ChrisPCrunchy]

It depends on how sucessful the system is. I have a working prototype but the system I use has become quite complex. There are issues with carbon residue poluting the catalyst and the longevity of the system is of concern so testing will be a long process.

I will probably patent system if only to make sure that it cant be shelved and there is some legal protection if there is a later dispute. I would like to make it public domain but it is fairly complex for the garage inventers like us.

[porscheleenj]

How about piping in some pure oxygen (from the splitter), it turns a small flame into a LARGE BANG. (mix before release, do not store) Thats how they power liquid rocket engines.

[scottman12]

if you are looking on the net it says that if you are looking for some neutrons to accelerate and magnetize you will need a neutron gun or some hydrogen which has 2 neutrons so i was looking for a magnetic particle generator because magnetic particles moving past a coil of wire produce an electric current so im going to try a magnetron with the rf wire pulled out if i dont electrocute myself. kevin

[ChrisPCrunchy]

Be careful Kevin. The microwave energy output from a magnetron can burn you internally without you feeling it until it is too late. Lower level of microwave energy can cause cataracts. The high voltage output from a microwave transformer can cause burns and electrocution. Dont mess with microwaves unless you have a safe way to shield it and a microwave leak detection device.

[scottman12]

i read about a magnetron being used in the spark plug hole since they are around 4000 volts it might work but i think they are vaporising the water before the piston comes up and then the rf must upset the bond between the hydrogen and the oxygen.

[rfsimoes]

Were did you read that?

Could you share?

[luckyfire3]

Chris how do I join the forum your referring too? I would like to be in the loop ;). Does the spark overheat the spark plug over time? Where is a good place to start learning about this type of technology?

[ChrisPCrunchy]

See email I sent you and good luck with your studies.

[inagod]

watch that battery they do explode when exposed to flames[leaking gas]

[psycopyro001]

Place a spark plug over the top where you had the lighter and fully automate the process...

[ChrisPCrunchy]

the idea was to make an injector to supply alternative fuel injection into a conventional internal combustion engine. So the spark would be supplied by the existing vehicle ignition system, that is why I had not bothered making a substitute ignition system for the prototype. Also there is some water spray that is emmitted with the gas, this may short out a spark type ignition system. System is far from perfected.

[psycopyro001]

the water spray may be potentially problematic for a car engine but you could probably filter it out... perhaps incorporate the filter into the actual injector itself so people (assuming you do sell this as a patented product) could just replace the injectors when they get dirty instead of replacing both the filters and the injectors.

[scottman12]

where can i get these injectors to use water in my car.

[ChrisPCrunchy]

Unit is till too unstable for sale to public yet. I am working on a better unit but it is taking time.

[scottman12]

the fossil fuel industry is massive and effects world economies in a way that if fossil fuel profits were to be suddenly taken away from governments their economies would collapse and a lot mum and dad investors would also loose their money so be carefull as we saw what happened to myers sell it to others or involve a lot of people se it cant be stopped this time thanks kevin

[ChrisPCrunchy]

I personally are a member of more than twenty forums and other chat groups on alternative energy. What I am doing is well known to many thousands of like minded citizens all over the planet. There is no way to shut this down now, with the internet. The petrolium industry knows this, that is why they are squeezing ever last penny out of us now before the gravy train grinds to a halt.

Thanks for your concern ChrisPCrunchy.

[palehorsepalerider]

rock on friends

[999810]

the wicked part is an open flame near the battery - u r sooooo lucky

[ChrisPCrunchy]

Hey this is outside in "OPEN AIR" do you have any HOW much Hydrogen a battery would have to give off in open air to cause any sort of ignition. Hydrogen is the lightest element on earth and with no type of confinement it escapes up into the atmosphere at such a rate that you would need the entire electrolyte to be converted spontainiously. Impossible. You are just attempting to be negative and have no idea.

[ChrisPCrunchy]

I mucked around with HHO for a bit, but the difference in fuel economy was very little.

I mucked around with the oxygen sensor to adjust for leaner burn and it helped some what. but then I heard of possible embrittlement issues damaging engine with hydrogen gas and abandoned this approch.

I doubt very much that a $19.95 kit would help very much, a modern internal combustion engine is way to complex to just add a small amount of HHO and expect improvement.

[ChrisPCrunchy]

There are two main inductors, a large one which is an ignition coil off a Holden commodore (car) which is on the board next to the battery, for low frequency. One off a photocopier ferrite core which is cable tied to the base of the injector reaction cylinder, for high frequency. I am thinkin of muching around with this system some more.

[luvgingy]

cool!!!

[betterplace4all]

hi , me and some friends just started to exp. with 4000v neon fransf.and 14000hz pulses to run briggs and stratton single cyl engine via electrolisys but seeing this video is even more interesting..... would u be so kind to tell us more details about the cicuits and injector used please?

[KokomoJ0]

CrisP, Is the buzzing the speed you are triggering the arc inside the tube? Are you firing the injector with a switch in your left hand? What voltages and freqs do you use please? nice demo!

[KokomoJ0]

Sorry about the double post my puter jammed, Another question... :) What is that screen used for? Are you spraying the water through the arc maybe? So many questions huh?  lol

[ChrisPCrunchy]

The screen is used to filter out the spray of water droplets as they are released with the gas. I have also put a 5.85 Kv negative charge on the screen to attract the positively charged Hydrogen in the hydrocarbons generated. It improves the gas and flame ignition greatly. Note this gas wont ignite until it is exposed to air as the oxygen has been converted to carbon monoxide by the carbon electrode arc.

[ChrisPCrunchy]

Hi KokomoJ0 and happy new year.

The system I am using here is 240v Rectified to 240 x 1.414 or 339V peak voltage DC arcing on a 5.5Kv spark generated by a ignition coil. I use tesla diodes to protect the inverter circuit. The frequency is set by a zenner diode circuit which is triggered when the current flow reaches 30 mA. The electrodes are Carbon and I trigger the release of the gas manually using a soleniod valve (Actived by the switch I am holding.)

[KokomoJ0]

Way nice! Excellent work there ChrisP! So the carbon robs it of the Oxy and it cant burn, and it sounds like you should get really long electrode life that way too! Is the target zone critical for the mist such that it all has to flow through the arc or is getting most of it through the arc close enough?

[ChrisPCrunchy]

I am currently experimenting with a pond fogger as the droplet size seems to be critical, not all of the droplets seem to be affected by the arc there are many variables.With the fogger system I plan on using carbon monoxide from car exhaust so the fog will remain in an oxygen starved environment.This should also elliminate the carbon electrodes as the carbon monoxide should become carbon dioxide and liberate the hydrogen in the arc.Can you see where this is going?

[KokomoJ0]

Sort of :) I was thinking about something along the lines of a ware ever cold water vaporizor (for cold misting), and a helical chronological arc array as far as electronics, I sort of suck at the chemistry aspects tho. :)

[KokomoJ0]

Oh yeh kool! I hit the send then I realized what you were talking about :) Hit me back let me know how that turns out, I think I will have to look in the scrap box cuz this sounds like a way fun project! Especially if you get your expected reaction! That would be the cherry on top wouldnt it :)

[HTwoGo]

So the is arch is running dry until you trigger the injector?

[HTwoGo]

So then is the arc running dry until you trigger the injector??

[ChrisPCrunchy]

The arc is running through the hydrogen and carbon monoxide gas generated, then water is injected through that arc. Enough gas is then released into the air via a solinoid valve to create the flame. The release of gas is stopped before all the gas is expelled so that there is enough gas left in tube for electrodes to remain dry and maintain the arc.Then the process is repeated.

[ChrisPCrunchy]

Carbon electrodes have to be used so that the Oxygen from H2O is turned to carbon monoxide.There must be no oxygen left in the reaction area or it will explode. There is something special about an arc flowing through Hydrogen and cabon monoxide in this process. It generates hugh amounts of heat and pressure for little wattage.

[cheaphardwarez]

Apparent, that the writers intended for us to believe that the final l00 k.cal./gram molecule heat was absorbed from the arc, but the 103 cal./gram molecule dissociation heat figure showed a net 108,897 cal./gram molecule unexplained. If there are about 65 cubic centimeters per mole of hydrogen at its critical volume, it seemed highly unlikely that sufficient energy to weld could be absorbed from the 'arc', during the time required for 65 cubic centimeters of gas to pass through the arc

[KokomoJ0]

CrisP, is the buzzing noise from the arc inside the tube? Then you are triggering the fuel injector with a switch in your left hand? What voltage and freqs do you use in your arc please?

[alkibiadis2007]

wow this is very nice but how this works ?

thank you

[Darkshaddowknight]

Great clip. Flame is wicked

[gingy717]

this is awsome. When will you have a system to power my car. More of this please.

[ChrisPCrunchy]

Just got lawn mower to run on this the car may take 6 more months. Harder than I thought.

[TeddyXOXO]

Best video ever well done

[luvgingy]

cool injector,

best experiment ever...