I have come to believe that depending on the environment a large percentage (although not all) of a population can be made to actively participate in things like genozide. So what environment is needed? An environment in which they are made to believe that their evil actions will not lead to bad consequences for themselves. That's all that's needed. I am not trying to defend the Nzais, i am just trying to tell you that with today's people it would be even easier for them to commit such acts...
You Fascists amuse me...although you are dangerous...
You intrigue me...I say more Jews were killed in World War II...more than 6 million...in villages that no longer exist...people whom we will never learn about...
Why do you deny what you wanted?
There are few Jews in Europe...
Hitler said he would destroy all Jews in Europe...he got what he needed...
ReinholdElstner promotes Ernst Zundel in his channel playlist - a convicted neo-nazi & holocaust denier who is still serving in Germany. Sums up his hate agenda-which is why he totally lacks credibility.
Why would all these various people lie?...there are hundreds of people who have testified to the Nazi war crimes and to the holocaust...and there are documents that the Nazis left behind.
Why don't you face the facts Reinhold - denier lying kooks like you don't have a credible argument for attempting to rebut one of the most studied & documented episodes of modern history still within the living memory of survivors,perpetrators & liberators.
The soap stories are a holdover from WW1 when the allies claimed that the Germans were using dead German soldier corpses for rendering into fats for soaps...when in reality they were using horse corpses.
the Jewish skin lampshades really did happen...see the video on my favorites "Here is Germany" from 1945. There are some other videos on YT made by the US army specifically showing the lampshades.
See Wikipedia article "Kadaververwertungsanstalten" it explains the soap issue in WW1.
Watch "Here is Germany" at 6:10 on my "favorites videos"...they show the "works of art" which included the lampshade and other creative arts by the SS guards.
The lampshade was requested by an SS officer's wife...there are some other US army videos that show the lampshade in detail.
"the Jewish skin..." General Lucius Clay speaking of his decision to commute Ilse Kochs sentence said: ...I suppose I received more abuse for that than for anything else I did in Germany. Some reporter called her the Bitch of Buchenwald, had written that she had lampshades made out of human skin in her house. And that was introduced in court, where it was absolutely proven that the lampshades WERE MADE OUT OF GOAT SKIN. (Pgs. 251,252 INNOCENT AT DACHAU by Joseph Halow.)
Why did the lampshades and other "art work" have numbered tattoos on them?
Those works of art are in my video "Here is Germany" from 1945...Germans from the villages near Dachau were led past the table with the artwork...don't you think they might have noticed wether it was goat skin or human skin?
why would the US army fabricate such goulish artifacts? There was no need...the facts of the gassings were bad enough.
don't forget Eisenhower himself was a German American...
The table with the lampshade, two shrunken heads etc was at the Buchenwald camp. The story was that a woman named Ilse Koch had had prisoners skin made into lampshades and other things. Koch hadnt even been at the camp for nearly 2 years. It was pure propaganda, as General Clays statement confirms.
There is a 25 minute film called Buchenwald-A Dumb, Dumb Portrayal of Evil. If you watch that you will understand a lot more than I can explain here. There is a link for it at my channel, or you can see it at the filmmaker's website holocaustdenialvideos (dotcom)
"why would the US army fabricate such goulish artifacts?"
WW2 finished with most of Europe occupied by the Communists, including Poland which the war had started over. The Government needed to justify the war, and demonising Germany was the way to do it. Crimes committed by the Russians (like the Katyn Massacre, in Poland) were blamed on Germany by the Nuremberg Tribunal. Search Katyn Massacre.
Read wikipedia's excellent article "Criticism of holocaust Denial"...they refute ALL the holocaust denial claims.
The western allies knew that they would need Germany to help protect europe from communism...Churchill was clearly anticipating a struggle with communism and he had never been a fan of communism.
If anything there was an attempt to whitewash many Germans so that they could be used in the US space program and other military programs...that's why the US enabled them to escape.
"There was no need...the facts of the gassings were bad enough."
One important thing to consider is that none of these camps, in Germany, (Buchenwald, Belsen, Dachau etc.) are today considered to have had "homicidal gas chambers," but all the camps had gas chambers that were used to fumigate bedding and clothing.
"the facts of the gassings" doesn't mean they had to be in Germany proper...the allies knew about the gassings at Auschwitz as early as late 1942 and the British even published photos of the roof opening vents with a soldier demonstrating the process of introducting the Zyklon B pellets...that was published in Britain in November 1944.
Watch my video in my favorites from the bbc program about Auschwitz....it's an interview with Oskar Groening...he was a 20 year old SS private at Auschwitz from Aug. 1942 till it closed...his job was to count the money taken from incoming Jews...sort it...and send it off to Berlin SS Headquarters.
he saw everything,,,burning pits, crematoriums, brutality, gas chambers.
At Dachau these fumigation gas chambers were dishonestly represented in propaganda films as having been used to kill people. If you watch my playlist HOLOCAUST REVISIONISM FOR BEGINNERS you will see this in the first 5 minutes.
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U.S. government historical researchers Kleiman and Skwirot called Hottl a notorious intelligence peddler and fabricator.A U.S.Army intelligence letter describes Hottl as a fabricator of intelligence information,his reports normally consist of a fine cobweb of fact, heavily padded with lies, deceit, conjecture and other false types of information.
Read "taping Hitler's Generals"...the British had 84 captured German Generals housed at a luxurious mansion in London called Trent Park. The British bugged all the rooms, provided cognac , and plenty of free time...the Generals were relaxed...discussed war crimes more than anything else.
They admitted that the Einsatzgruppen had shot atleast one million Jews...and many Russians and Poles too.
If Germany was willing to shoot women and children...they would be willing to gas people too.
ReinholdElstner promotes Ernst Zundel in his channel playlist - a convicted neo-nazi and holocuast denier who is still serving in Germany. Sums up his hate agenda really-totally lacking credibility
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The truth is that Himmler ordered the camp commandants to do everything in their power to lower the death rates in the camps because it was diminishing their labor force.
Veesenmayer who was the German Representaive in Budapest who Hottl was second in command to also was amnestied in 1951 for his role in the extermination of Hungarian Jews.
Hottl reached rank of Lieutenant Colonel in the RSHA,SS & Nzi party member ,Head of Intelligence in Central Europe & was 2nd in command to Veesenmayer during the 1944 Hungarian deportations.
I do not know much about him. He died in June 1999 - I am not certain why he was not tried but he was an important witness at Nuremburg. Eichmann denied in Jerusalem that this conversation had taken place.
you are stupid indeed - are you an Aryan ? do you know what these German's would have done to you afterward ? gas chamber ... because you are no Aryan !
Treason in the 1st world war who was not militarily lost by Germany, but rather only through a cunning of German Zionism, with the Balfour declaration of 1916.
The 1st world war was actually lost for the "allies", got by the Balfour declaration a turning point when Zionisten offered the Englishmen, who didn't need to lose the world war, if these got for that in return Palestine.
The honored valued Jew Benjamin Freedman referred on that in the 60 years in USA. Thank you.
Hottl was a pathological liar who told each side what they wanted to hear. At various times, after the war, living in aultasee in austria, he claimed to be the head of spinne (the escape route) and claimed bormann was one of his escapees He was also cleared as de-natzified by the oss as he turned in names of his former colleagues. He claimed to be close to eichmann, which is where he got his statistics on the killings. I think he is nothing but a self serving mid level beurocrat,a criminal.
He is no animal, he is human.
A man can do all the things he is physically able
dasueberich1 1 year ago 2
I have come to believe that depending on the environment a large percentage (although not all) of a population can be made to actively participate in things like genozide. So what environment is needed? An environment in which they are made to believe that their evil actions will not lead to bad consequences for themselves. That's all that's needed. I am not trying to defend the Nzais, i am just trying to tell you that with today's people it would be even easier for them to commit such acts...
Supenmanu 1 year ago
You Fascists amuse me...although you are dangerous...
You intrigue me...I say more Jews were killed in World War II...more than 6 million...in villages that no longer exist...people whom we will never learn about...
Why do you deny what you wanted?
There are few Jews in Europe...
Hitler said he would destroy all Jews in Europe...he got what he needed...
You deny?
Why deny?
You should acknowledge what your leader did...
dudemantwo 1 year ago
@dudemantwo --deny what?
Gravelandart 1 year ago
ReinholdElstner promotes Ernst Zundel in his channel playlist - a convicted neo-nazi & holocaust denier who is still serving in Germany. Sums up his hate agenda-which is why he totally lacks credibility.
historicrecord 2 years ago
Google William Hottl and you'll see why even holocostomaniacs don't want to mention his name.
ReinholdElstner 2 years ago
Why would all these various people lie?...there are hundreds of people who have testified to the Nazi war crimes and to the holocaust...and there are documents that the Nazis left behind.
Only kooks deny the holocaust.
EdwardRommel 2 years ago
In this instance my only claim is that even allied sources call Hottl a liar.
ReinholdElstner 2 years ago
Why would they lie?
The creation of Israel,trillions of dollars in reparations,to distract attention from the allies own war crimes,because they hate the Germans.
ReinholdElstner 2 years ago
Why don't you face the facts Reinhold - denier lying kooks like you don't have a credible argument for attempting to rebut one of the most studied & documented episodes of modern history still within the living memory of survivors,perpetrators & liberators.
historicrecord 2 years ago
LOL and this coming from someone who still claims the Germans made soap and lampshades from jews?You are funny.
ReinholdElstner 2 years ago
The soap stories are a holdover from WW1 when the allies claimed that the Germans were using dead German soldier corpses for rendering into fats for soaps...when in reality they were using horse corpses.
the Jewish skin lampshades really did happen...see the video on my favorites "Here is Germany" from 1945. There are some other videos on YT made by the US army specifically showing the lampshades.
See Wikipedia article "Kadaververwertungsanstalten" it explains the soap issue in WW1.
EdwardRommel 2 years ago
See the testimony of General Lucius Clay,it explains the lamp shade issue.That and the fact that even holocaust promoters no support such claims.
ReinholdElstner 2 years ago
Watch "Here is Germany" at 6:10 on my "favorites videos"...they show the "works of art" which included the lampshade and other creative arts by the SS guards.
The lampshade was requested by an SS officer's wife...there are some other US army videos that show the lampshade in detail.
EdwardRommel 2 years ago
Edward,
"the Jewish skin..." General Lucius Clay speaking of his decision to commute Ilse Kochs sentence said: ...I suppose I received more abuse for that than for anything else I did in Germany. Some reporter called her the Bitch of Buchenwald, had written that she had lampshades made out of human skin in her house. And that was introduced in court, where it was absolutely proven that the lampshades WERE MADE OUT OF GOAT SKIN. (Pgs. 251,252 INNOCENT AT DACHAU by Joseph Halow.)
MelbourneMr 1 year ago
Why did the lampshades and other "art work" have numbered tattoos on them?
Those works of art are in my video "Here is Germany" from 1945...Germans from the villages near Dachau were led past the table with the artwork...don't you think they might have noticed wether it was goat skin or human skin?
why would the US army fabricate such goulish artifacts? There was no need...the facts of the gassings were bad enough.
don't forget Eisenhower himself was a German American...
EdwardRommel 1 year ago
Ed,
The table with the lampshade, two shrunken heads etc was at the Buchenwald camp. The story was that a woman named Ilse Koch had had prisoners skin made into lampshades and other things. Koch hadnt even been at the camp for nearly 2 years. It was pure propaganda, as General Clays statement confirms.
MelbourneMr 1 year ago
Ed,
There is a 25 minute film called Buchenwald-A Dumb, Dumb Portrayal of Evil. If you watch that you will understand a lot more than I can explain here. There is a link for it at my channel, or you can see it at the filmmaker's website holocaustdenialvideos (dotcom)
MelbourneMr 1 year ago
"why would the US army fabricate such goulish artifacts?"
WW2 finished with most of Europe occupied by the Communists, including Poland which the war had started over. The Government needed to justify the war, and demonising Germany was the way to do it. Crimes committed by the Russians (like the Katyn Massacre, in Poland) were blamed on Germany by the Nuremberg Tribunal. Search Katyn Massacre.
MelbourneMr 1 year ago
Read wikipedia's excellent article "Criticism of holocaust Denial"...they refute ALL the holocaust denial claims.
The western allies knew that they would need Germany to help protect europe from communism...Churchill was clearly anticipating a struggle with communism and he had never been a fan of communism.
If anything there was an attempt to whitewash many Germans so that they could be used in the US space program and other military programs...that's why the US enabled them to escape.
EdwardRommel 1 year ago
I will have a look at that wiki page.
Have you seen the films I'm talking about?
MelbourneMr 1 year ago
"There was no need...the facts of the gassings were bad enough."
One important thing to consider is that none of these camps, in Germany, (Buchenwald, Belsen, Dachau etc.) are today considered to have had "homicidal gas chambers," but all the camps had gas chambers that were used to fumigate bedding and clothing.
cont.....
MelbourneMr 1 year ago
"the facts of the gassings" doesn't mean they had to be in Germany proper...the allies knew about the gassings at Auschwitz as early as late 1942 and the British even published photos of the roof opening vents with a soldier demonstrating the process of introducting the Zyklon B pellets...that was published in Britain in November 1944.
EdwardRommel 1 year ago
Ed,
Have you seen the films I'm talking about?
MelbourneMr 1 year ago
I have seen films of some of professor Luecter's analysis of the gas chambers and the zyklon b debate.
EdwardRommel 1 year ago
holocaustdenialvideos is a site you should find interesting.
With regard to British knowing about gassings, I will post a quote.
MelbourneMr 1 year ago
(1/2)
If they did not take seriously the atrocity reports reaching them, then
probably this was so because they knew what quality of information they were
dealing with. In regard to this, the British Chairman of the Allied "Joint Intelligence
Committee," Victor Cavendish-Bentinck, made the following comment
in 1943:
MelbourneMr 1 year ago
(2/2)
"I feel certain that we are making a mistake in publicly giving credence to
this gas chambers story. [] As regards putting Poles to death in gas
chambers, I do not believe that there is any evidence that this has been
done."
Page 83, LECTURES ON THE HOLOCAUST by Germar Rudolf
MelbourneMr 1 year ago 3
Watch my video in my favorites from the bbc program about Auschwitz....it's an interview with Oskar Groening...he was a 20 year old SS private at Auschwitz from Aug. 1942 till it closed...his job was to count the money taken from incoming Jews...sort it...and send it off to Berlin SS Headquarters.
he saw everything,,,burning pits, crematoriums, brutality, gas chambers.
EdwardRommel 1 year ago
At Dachau these fumigation gas chambers were dishonestly represented in propaganda films as having been used to kill people. If you watch my playlist HOLOCAUST REVISIONISM FOR BEGINNERS you will see this in the first 5 minutes.
MelbourneMr 1 year ago
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U.S. government historical researchers Kleiman and Skwirot called Hottl a notorious intelligence peddler and fabricator.A U.S.Army intelligence letter describes Hottl as a fabricator of intelligence information,his reports normally consist of a fine cobweb of fact, heavily padded with lies, deceit, conjecture and other false types of information.
ReinholdElstner 2 years ago
Read "taping Hitler's Generals"...the British had 84 captured German Generals housed at a luxurious mansion in London called Trent Park. The British bugged all the rooms, provided cognac , and plenty of free time...the Generals were relaxed...discussed war crimes more than anything else.
They admitted that the Einsatzgruppen had shot atleast one million Jews...and many Russians and Poles too.
If Germany was willing to shoot women and children...they would be willing to gas people too.
EdwardRommel 2 years ago 4
ReinholdElstner promotes Ernst Zundel in his channel playlist - a convicted neo-nazi and holocuast denier who is still serving in Germany. Sums up his hate agenda really-totally lacking credibility
historicrecord 2 years ago
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The truth is that Himmler ordered the camp commandants to do everything in their power to lower the death rates in the camps because it was diminishing their labor force.
ReinholdElstner 2 years ago
He's giving an account of a convsersation between Himmler & Eichmann. He provided an affidavit for the prosecution at the Nurembourg trials
historicrecord 2 years ago
Veesenmayer who was the German Representaive in Budapest who Hottl was second in command to also was amnestied in 1951 for his role in the extermination of Hungarian Jews.
historicrecord 2 years ago
Hottl reached rank of Lieutenant Colonel in the RSHA,SS & Nzi party member ,Head of Intelligence in Central Europe & was 2nd in command to Veesenmayer during the 1944 Hungarian deportations.
historicrecord 2 years ago
I do not know much about him. He died in June 1999 - I am not certain why he was not tried but he was an important witness at Nuremburg. Eichmann denied in Jerusalem that this conversation had taken place.
alanheath 2 years ago
Wiso lebt diese Drecksau überhaupt noch . Dem könnte ich in den Hals Pissen bis er Erstickt.
Friesenmicha 2 years ago
Ekelhafte, widerliche Kreaturen, diese Nazi-Gangsters! They must disappear forever!
gorgonleggio 2 years ago
this Nazi should have been hanged.
sonicbreaker00 2 years ago
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Indonesians salute Herr Hottl, a valiant hero.
Indonesians love Germany for liberating our nation from hated US, Dutch and their boot-lick servant Chinaman
Germany has trained and educated thousands of our natives: Dutch, UK and US plundered without anything in return but "divide et impera" agitprop.
Indonesia will never forget Germany's liberation and continued assistance.
Germany will forever have true friends & guaranteed business in Indonesia.
Vielen Danke von einem treuen Freund
purbanegoro 2 years ago
you are stupid indeed - are you an Aryan ? do you know what these German's would have done to you afterward ? gas chamber ... because you are no Aryan !
sonicbreaker00 2 years ago
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Treason in the 1st world war who was not militarily lost by Germany, but rather only through a cunning of German Zionism, with the Balfour declaration of 1916.
The 1st world war was actually lost for the "allies", got by the Balfour declaration a turning point when Zionisten offered the Englishmen, who didn't need to lose the world war, if these got for that in return Palestine.
The honored valued Jew Benjamin Freedman referred on that in the 60 years in USA. Thank you.
Slimologic 2 years ago
He is an animal ,No thats insulting the animals.
carolynan 3 years ago 47
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excellent we know 6 million is a lie
roscogre 3 years ago
Hottl was a pathological liar who told each side what they wanted to hear. At various times, after the war, living in aultasee in austria, he claimed to be the head of spinne (the escape route) and claimed bormann was one of his escapees He was also cleared as de-natzified by the oss as he turned in names of his former colleagues. He claimed to be close to eichmann, which is where he got his statistics on the killings. I think he is nothing but a self serving mid level beurocrat,a criminal.
akerlindbonde 3 years ago 48
@akerlindbonde Was Wilhelm Hottl a Catholic or Protestant?
dudemantwo 1 year ago