You seem like an intelligent and sympathic, young man :) I love your dedication, but how can you be so 100% sure about vaccines always being the answer? I've seen statistics from both Great Britain and Norway, showing that the most important cause for diseases was poor living standards. There was clearly a radical change for the better once this improved, long before vaccines was introduced and taking honor for it all. I believe it's not all black and white - what about you?
@HalleHamar there are three elements that the development of a disease deppends on: the host, the pathogen and the environment.
my point is that when you get vaccinated you improve your immune system(host), but of course that setting health regulations and improving the living situation (enviroment) could prevent you from getting a disease on the first place (and a lot more).
keep calm and dont forget to get vaccinated! cheers
HalleHamar, yes... sanitation and nutrition did have an effect on disease rates, however they affect a wide range of diseases while vaccines are very specific. When we have changes in sanitation/nutrition and vaccination in a similar time frame, the different drop rates between the disease covered by the vaccine and other diseases lets us see how effective the vaccines are. So yes, we are very sure that vaccines are very effective. Not 100.0%, but as close as you can get in science.
I would have put one white soldier on Team Going to Get Fucked since the autism rate is the same in both vaccinated and unvaccinated populations. Good video.
Not to be a statistics nazi (pardon the WWII reference) but 7% of the remaining 70 people is 5 leaving 65. 11% of 65 is 7 leaving 58. 1% of 58 is, well, less than 1 but we'll round up and call it 57. 30% of 57 is 17 leaving 40. So it would be 100 soldiers against 40, not 21. Your point is still valid though:).
I have a horse who had colic with fever after having a full set of shots at once, so what we do is split the shots up in 3 sets spaced by 2 weeks instead of all at once. The vet said they have seen this in other horses. They also give an anti-inflammatory called Banamine with his shots now.
They give kids a bunch more vaccinations at once now than when I was a kid. Perhaps spreading out the shots more would help if there is a bad reaction in susceptible population of kids, like some horses.
ALSO I just noticed, shouldn't the diseases be cumulative? 10% of 100, then 10% of 90, then 15% of 81 etc. I didn't use the percentages in your vid since this was an easier calculation to illustrate my point :p
I'm for the vaccination, but I get suspicious when they talking about pandemic and the only cure is the last years overproduction of vaccine against that years pandemic. It's about money, too much vaccine that need to be sold. Not to mention the horrible side effects of it, like the liver getting rejected by the body :x
@gr0gg0 Sorry old sport but pharmaceutical companies don't make a great deal on something they only have to give to a person once. I have never heard of a liver being rejected after someone has being vaccinated and there is also no evidence that any one who has undergone a liver transplant will have it rejected as a direct result from being vaccinated either. NONE!
@powerm1985 No liver transplant. It was rejected from the vaccine Pandemrix against swine-flu, which was the vaccine against the the bird-flu that never got used. It's called autoimmune hepatitis, and it's not from only vaccine you can get it.
@powerm1985 Actually, there was one instance in Sweden where a man died because his transplanted heart was rejected after having the one of the flu-vaccines. But, it turned out that he had been mismanaging his anti-rejection medicine (not taking it regularly enough, as prescribed), and he didn't bother to check with his doctor if he should take it in the first place. (Clue: he shouldn't have)
So he really didn't die from the vaccine. He died from a perfect storm of stupid.
@gr0gg0 O RLY? It's about money? Guess what – they are companies that want to make a profit. But that's not a completely bad thing, e.g. the chemical industry makes a lot of money by producing huge amounts of soap.
The „it's about money‘ pseudo-argument is a pretty weak one, in my humble opinion.
@kleptoplast So, in other words, you are agreeing with me. The more the media inform about something, will result in a higher public demand. In this case I'm thinking of is when nations bought in huge amounts of vaccine against a seasonal virus, which the public demand, which later turned out to be something of a average seasonal virus. Of course the pharmaceutical companies should take the opportunity of serving the public demand. It was a known topic by the public, almost a trend.
this is a quality video and I agree with what you're saying, but just because 20% of the people that get a disease die from that disease doesn't mean that 20% of the population is going to get that disease.
@sfm073 You are 100% correct and in hindsight I should have looked at the percentage population of UK citizens who would be affected by preventable diseases before vaccinations were introduced. However the ending would have remained the same "if you don't get your child vaccinated you run the risk of them catching one............apart from smallpox" I promise in my next vid I will try harder :)
@iasedu ah, you made the classic error of being ironic on the internet. everyone does that from time to time, better get it out of your system here than on facebook though.
@iasedu "Adolf Hitler was one of the first leaders to introduce compulsory vaccinations in 1939". ... and that makes vaccinations bad?
Seems like Hitler got something right.
The rational way to decide whether medical decisions are good or bad is to do studies into their effectiveness and risks. What Hitler did or did not do should have nothing whatsoever to do with your decision.
@AThagoras Well, Hitler was going to build that largest and strongest army and race in the world, that would last for 1000 years. Vaccinations is just one of the good things he started, water fluoridation being another major social benefit. Again, my comment was sarcastic.
New Subscriber, due to shout out. First vid of yours I've watched... liked, favorited and shared (the latter being somewhat rare) so... kudos. Looking forward to checking out your back-catalog. HNY :)
My home town is a perfect example of what happens when vaccination rates are in fact low. Norwich, Ontario has had several outbreaks of rubella due to low vaccination rates in a dutch reform population. The non dutch reform population did not have any incidence of rubella, but the rubella was spread mainly at the dutch reform school which had to be closed temporarily. Heard immunity only works when you don't concentrate the people who are not vaccinated, otherwise you get my town.
I'm not sure how, but going into this I could just tell you had it out for the team on the right. You've just always had that shady look in your eyes such that I knew you just weren't capable of overcoming your irrational fear and hatred of those guys on the right!
Your use of 'statistics' is almost as bad as Wakefield. By your method if you added the percentages of the various diseases and accidents that lead to death you would end up with several hundred percent of your original population dead. It's a wonder that we ever survived to the age of vaccination. However it was an amusing demonstration and Wakefield is a dick.
@herbiepop I was thinking the same about his use of percentages :) + in a country where most are vaccinated, a non-vaccinated people is some what ring fenced from such diseases.
I'm (probably, ya it's genetic) allergic to the preservatives in the vaccines so i have never has one tho i have aspergers soooooooo i according to that paper ... where did i get that from?
@jannikmt Depending on your allergy, I wonder if desensitization would work for you to be able to receive the vaccines. It works for antibiotics on some patients...
Sadly the people who need to see this likely wont even watch it and even if they do they are very unlikely to listen to it. It's a very emotional topic and humans love to have someone to blame, especially those in a Western culture (complicated reason there but it has to do a bit with language!). The idea of your child just getting the bad luck of getting autism isn't something many seem to want to accept. It's nicer to point the blame externally. But keep it up! Love the video!
@TheIdealGasLaw Depends on where you are and what vaccinations you're trying to get. Some are actually hazardous when you're at/near adulthood, though they're harmless to children. Above all, talk to your doctor and get the facts.
@TheIdealGasLaw assuming you have no problems with your immune system, then many of the vaccines we give are still available to you. Like Muljinn said check with your doctor because none of us here know your medical history, but likely many of them can still be safely administered
First of all: beautifully made video!! Gratz on that. I was wondering though, a disease kill rate of 30%, that is 30% of people infected right? So not 30% of your population would die. I know a lot of the comments have pointed these statistics thingies out, but just saying ^_^. I feel teh best point of the entire video was the last one: it's only due to mass vaccination that not vaccinating is relatively safe :s Keep up the good vids powerm, i'll keep enjoying 'em!!
I'm not clear on what you're trying to show. Even, when small pox was around, not everyone would get it. While I agree with the point of the video, you're analogy massively misrepresents the issue to anyone not already familiar with the numbers and statistics.
It's similar to a green peace activist saying nuclear power plants are going to kill 60% of the world's population because 60% of people with severe radiation poisoning die. (I made these numbers up)
@greenghost2008 Well, by anti-vax, most people I've talked to mean the people who are opposed to ALL vaccines (there's quite a few of those people). If you're opposed to a spesific vaccine, but not most of them, you don't count as anti-vax. (I know there must be people using the word to refer to someone with a greif with a spesific vaccine, but I've never run into someone using the word in that manner).
In America they require that you have your vaccinations for college. Otherwise I don't think they let you in. They might require them for high school too.
@hardworker424 They require certain vaccinations to go into school at all, however, sadly, parents can say "I don't want my child vaccinated" and they don't have to be
@hardworker424 Indeed. The scary thing is, awhile back when I was about 12, I almost fell for the vaccination = autism bull because a friend of the family believed it.
i get that the math is iffy here, but thats not important. no proper calculations need to be done as the basic point is: Vaccinations up to, including and surpassing MMR do NOT cause autism.
even if they did WHICH THEY DONT, the lifespan and wellbeing of almost all the populous will drop significantly more than the 1% with autism
even then, of the 1% with autism (and im guestimating) around 50% will have aspergers, a relatively mild social disability.
Excellent video. :) Informative, funny and well presented. (: And it also inspired some bizarre sense of patriotism in me... O.o :P But yes, once again Myles you get 20 out of 10 from me! :D
The opposition to the opposition have to unite! We can't have those anti-vaccination people organize alone! Let's start an organization for making vaccination mandatory! (We can't let those who don't vaccine to be a threat to human health and safety!)
@iasedu Those who don't get vaccinated only hurt others' who don't get vaccinated health. Although If you're talking about the evolution of a disease through it's continued existence then I supposed that could be a problem.
Myles, great video. However I don't think the kill percentages should be addictive like the way you portrait them to be.
Say you have two diseases both with 50% kill rate. Out of a 100 people, there will be a average of 25 people overlap (who are now twice as dead in this lovely scenario). In your simulation it would kill a 100% whereas in reality it would 'only' kill an average of 75%. (Between 50 and 100%)
Doesn't matter. If you have 2 diseases with a 50% kill rate you still have a 25% chance of living. Not 100-50-50= 0%.
The kill percentage should be subtracted from the remaining population, not the original starting point.
Of course the whole notion of "percentage based kill rate" is a bit odd. It wouldn't surprise me if certain people are much more susceptible or resistant to diseases, plus there might be some correlation between one disease and another.
@Phyrexious I was thinking of doing it one disease after another. So the 60 people who survived small pox would have a 7% dying from Diphtheria. But then I would have to deal with non round numbers and the whole thing becomes overly complicated for something at the end is very simple. If you don't get your child vaccinated you run the risk of them catching very real diseases.
I have Asperger's, and I'm glad I got all the usual childhood vaccinations here in the UK. I asked the nurse at my GP's surgery recently about getting a meningitis C vaccine that wasn't available when I was a child, but it turned out that I'm too old to be given the vaccine now (it's only offered to people under 25). ASD's run in my family, and I've no concerns about my Asperger's being caused by vaccines.
I always enjoy seeing another video in my sub list from you! Is that fake autism scare still rearing it's ugly head in the UK? We have more than enough kooks in the US that buy into these conspiracy theories about everything from vaccinations to water fluoridation. I would think you folks in the UK were smarter than us since you actually have free NHS vaccines!
@awreslr2 I'd like to think most of us are smarter but the media is just as terrible at reporting science over here, it's a big problem. I've seen a few headlines stating links between autism and MMR jabs.
I do think that is implying everyone gets the disease. All at the same time, without getting extra complications because you get them all at the same fucking time. I'm probably wrong, but is the math. That being said : Lovely visualisation, great video , like usual.
Of course I agree vaccinations are very useful and linking it to autism is absolute bollocks.
But just to be completely unethical:
It would make mankind more resistant to diseases in the long run, if nobody would be vaccinated... Might cost a couple (read: an awful lot) of lives throughout the centuries, but we're already overpopulating the planet anyway ;-)
@Ligermorph Remember though that diseases can and do adapt to defeat those resistances. Its a biological arms race. Even after surviving a population bottleneck event, vulnerabilities would still be there and exploited by new potentially nastier diseases. Unethical hell yes. Effective? Not at all.
@0Soule0 I'm not denying it's a biological arms race ;)
Stopping diseases by vaccination only works by keeping it up till the disease is extinct. Since vaccine development is fast, it works fine. So I'm pro-vaccination, go science!
BUT, vaccines don't cause major gene mutations that increase survivability for a population. e.g. the bubonic plague killed millions in Europe, but it did cause a mutation in the remaining population making them more resistant to HIV.
@Ligermorph The brbonic plague didn't cause any mutation among the remaining population, it caused a positive selection for the gene which offered resistance. It's a nit-picky criticism but an important difference.
I agree that modern medicine removes these selective pressures though, 1000s of them, which is why I advocate GATTACA style eugenics offered free to every human being on the planet once the technology is both affordable and better understood.
@YesIamJames Yea you're right about the plague causing the selection for the gene, I kinda meant it as "plague causing the change within the general population".. But the limited text space on YT worked against me :P
And totally agree on Gattaca style eugenics being the future, just a matter of time!
@Ligermorph I hope so, unfortunately the vast majority of people are unwilling to even conciser the possibility because of eugenic's not so favourable history. As for the population crisis hopefully this will balance out (I might be being overly optimistic though), better education leads to people having less children especially among women. This combined more efficient technology such as fusion and high yield GM crops could be enough to save us.
I had to fight to get my daughter vaccinated. i used logic to win the argument. she found all of the nonsense propaganda on the internet, then i used the internet to prove her argument wrong. took alot of work. WHY U NO POST THIS 2 YEARS AGO!!!??!
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also your getting better at making videos. thanks for the post.
First off, I have no children or spouse so this doesn't relate to me personally.
Here in the Netherlands we generally have the highest turn up rate for vaccination in all of Europe. A few years back there was a vaccination against some disease that girls could get (some breast disease). There was an estimated turn up rate of about 90% to 85% however, bullshit that floated around the internet pushed that back to close to 40%.
Your child who is fifteen? Is he not your biological child?
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@3l1t3xyz he said "and they'll say also that, 'hey my child Timmy...'"
javmango 1 day ago
... I am the 1%?
unassumption 1 week ago
The idea that your kid would be better off dead than autistic (pushed by these anti-vaccer parents) scares the living crap out of me.
That said it's good to see how alienated we are from the disease and death vaccines took us from.
unassumption 1 week ago
If only there was an injection i could give someone to make them autistic :(
would be like the borg nano probes or something, one of us gooble gobble motherfucker ;P
unassumption 1 week ago
You seem like an intelligent and sympathic, young man :) I love your dedication, but how can you be so 100% sure about vaccines always being the answer? I've seen statistics from both Great Britain and Norway, showing that the most important cause for diseases was poor living standards. There was clearly a radical change for the better once this improved, long before vaccines was introduced and taking honor for it all. I believe it's not all black and white - what about you?
HalleHamar 1 week ago
@HalleHamar there are three elements that the development of a disease deppends on: the host, the pathogen and the environment.
my point is that when you get vaccinated you improve your immune system(host), but of course that setting health regulations and improving the living situation (enviroment) could prevent you from getting a disease on the first place (and a lot more).
keep calm and dont forget to get vaccinated! cheers
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HalleHamar, yes... sanitation and nutrition did have an effect on disease rates, however they affect a wide range of diseases while vaccines are very specific. When we have changes in sanitation/nutrition and vaccination in a similar time frame, the different drop rates between the disease covered by the vaccine and other diseases lets us see how effective the vaccines are. So yes, we are very sure that vaccines are very effective. Not 100.0%, but as close as you can get in science.
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I would have put one white soldier on Team Going to Get Fucked since the autism rate is the same in both vaccinated and unvaccinated populations. Good video.
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Not to be a statistics nazi (pardon the WWII reference) but 7% of the remaining 70 people is 5 leaving 65. 11% of 65 is 7 leaving 58. 1% of 58 is, well, less than 1 but we'll round up and call it 57. 30% of 57 is 17 leaving 40. So it would be 100 soldiers against 40, not 21. Your point is still valid though:).
Ripley747 4 weeks ago
brilliant brilliant video old boy! Hope your doing well matey :)
McEvoy2006 1 month ago
I have a horse who had colic with fever after having a full set of shots at once, so what we do is split the shots up in 3 sets spaced by 2 weeks instead of all at once. The vet said they have seen this in other horses. They also give an anti-inflammatory called Banamine with his shots now.
They give kids a bunch more vaccinations at once now than when I was a kid. Perhaps spreading out the shots more would help if there is a bad reaction in susceptible population of kids, like some horses.
GreatG0dOm 1 month ago
I really want to watch Dr Strangelove now.
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Did you get the idea from this from Penn and Teller?
Watched this and now I've found: lhk7-5eBCrs
They did somewhat the same thing.
Still really cool though.
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I'm loving the theme of this one. Nicely done! :)
Vilavek 1 month ago
ALSO I just noticed, shouldn't the diseases be cumulative? 10% of 100, then 10% of 90, then 15% of 81 etc. I didn't use the percentages in your vid since this was an easier calculation to illustrate my point :p
FHomeBrew 1 month ago
Love the outfit you're wearing. Very fitting. I did miss a grain over the vid though lol.
FHomeBrew 1 month ago
Excellent production values in this one, slightly let down on stats as noted by others. More science, less Spielberg! Keep up the good work.
drchoc22 1 month ago
I'm for the vaccination, but I get suspicious when they talking about pandemic and the only cure is the last years overproduction of vaccine against that years pandemic. It's about money, too much vaccine that need to be sold. Not to mention the horrible side effects of it, like the liver getting rejected by the body :x
gr0gg0 1 month ago
@gr0gg0 Sorry old sport but pharmaceutical companies don't make a great deal on something they only have to give to a person once. I have never heard of a liver being rejected after someone has being vaccinated and there is also no evidence that any one who has undergone a liver transplant will have it rejected as a direct result from being vaccinated either. NONE!
powerm1985 1 month ago 21
@powerm1985 No liver transplant. It was rejected from the vaccine Pandemrix against swine-flu, which was the vaccine against the the bird-flu that never got used. It's called autoimmune hepatitis, and it's not from only vaccine you can get it.
gr0gg0 1 month ago
@powerm1985 Actually, there was one instance in Sweden where a man died because his transplanted heart was rejected after having the one of the flu-vaccines. But, it turned out that he had been mismanaging his anti-rejection medicine (not taking it regularly enough, as prescribed), and he didn't bother to check with his doctor if he should take it in the first place. (Clue: he shouldn't have)
So he really didn't die from the vaccine. He died from a perfect storm of stupid.
Trilliadin 1 month ago
@gr0gg0 O RLY? It's about money? Guess what – they are companies that want to make a profit. But that's not a completely bad thing, e.g. the chemical industry makes a lot of money by producing huge amounts of soap.
The „it's about money‘ pseudo-argument is a pretty weak one, in my humble opinion.
kleptoplast 1 month ago
@kleptoplast So, in other words, you are agreeing with me. The more the media inform about something, will result in a higher public demand. In this case I'm thinking of is when nations bought in huge amounts of vaccine against a seasonal virus, which the public demand, which later turned out to be something of a average seasonal virus. Of course the pharmaceutical companies should take the opportunity of serving the public demand. It was a known topic by the public, almost a trend.
gr0gg0 1 month ago
this is a quality video and I agree with what you're saying, but just because 20% of the people that get a disease die from that disease doesn't mean that 20% of the population is going to get that disease.
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@sfm073 You are 100% correct and in hindsight I should have looked at the percentage population of UK citizens who would be affected by preventable diseases before vaccinations were introduced. However the ending would have remained the same "if you don't get your child vaccinated you run the risk of them catching one............apart from smallpox" I promise in my next vid I will try harder :)
powerm1985 1 month ago 6
@powerm1985 Thanks for replying back, I'm glad I came upon this channel and I"m in the process of watching all of your videos. Keep up the good work.
sfm073 1 month ago
I really enjoyed this video...also, I agree wholeheartedly with the point. I can tell how much effort you've put into it! Appreciated!!
lisaking22 1 month ago
Team Gonna-get-seriously-fucked-up :D
CloudOfBefuddlement 1 month ago
Adolf Hitler was one of the first leaders to introduce compulsory vaccinations in 1939, i.e. it being Hitler proving it has to be a very bad idea.
iasedu 1 month ago
@iasedu Can't tell If you're trolling or just really stupid.
Either way, Godwin's law says you've lost your own argument.
Ligermorph 1 month ago
@Ligermorph It was sarcastic :(
iasedu 1 month ago
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@iasedu You know Hitler used to be sarcastic sometimes. i.e. it being Hitler proving it has to be a very bad idea. ^_^
Ligermorph 1 month ago
@iasedu ah, you made the classic error of being ironic on the internet. everyone does that from time to time, better get it out of your system here than on facebook though.
funkycoder1 1 month ago
@iasedu "Adolf Hitler was one of the first leaders to introduce compulsory vaccinations in 1939". ... and that makes vaccinations bad?
Seems like Hitler got something right.
The rational way to decide whether medical decisions are good or bad is to do studies into their effectiveness and risks. What Hitler did or did not do should have nothing whatsoever to do with your decision.
AThagoras 1 month ago
@AThagoras Well, Hitler was going to build that largest and strongest army and race in the world, that would last for 1000 years. Vaccinations is just one of the good things he started, water fluoridation being another major social benefit. Again, my comment was sarcastic.
iasedu 1 month ago
He said preggers. :3
Aaeegir 1 month ago
you have a 15 year old child?! but you're 27! fill me in.
marcarmstrong88 1 month ago
Now to tackle circumcision using a cleaver, sausages and ham slices! :D
Just watch the fingers....
HealingBlight 1 month ago
Fantastic video -- cheers!
nutwithatheory 1 month ago
that was an absolutely amazing video.
lepthymo 1 month ago
I think you have the same coffee table I do. UNPOSSIBLE!!!
Aezelll 1 month ago
Hey mate, love your videos. Whats the song at the end of this one?
Retiarysword 1 month ago
@Retiarysword Vera Lynn - We'll Meet Again
powerm1985 1 month ago
New Subscriber, due to shout out. First vid of yours I've watched... liked, favorited and shared (the latter being somewhat rare) so... kudos. Looking forward to checking out your back-catalog. HNY :)
OrthodoxAtheist 1 month ago
My home town is a perfect example of what happens when vaccination rates are in fact low. Norwich, Ontario has had several outbreaks of rubella due to low vaccination rates in a dutch reform population. The non dutch reform population did not have any incidence of rubella, but the rubella was spread mainly at the dutch reform school which had to be closed temporarily. Heard immunity only works when you don't concentrate the people who are not vaccinated, otherwise you get my town.
braedencowbrough 1 month ago
@powerm1985 Team "No Vaccines" should have been a whole bunch of Plague Bearers (Nurgle Marines) XD
tskasa1 1 month ago
I'm not sure how, but going into this I could just tell you had it out for the team on the right. You've just always had that shady look in your eyes such that I knew you just weren't capable of overcoming your irrational fear and hatred of those guys on the right!
integralmath 1 month ago
Great explanation, Myles!
But: you know that it won't help against those stupid anti vaccination freaks... :(
piepsi1 1 month ago
Your use of 'statistics' is almost as bad as Wakefield. By your method if you added the percentages of the various diseases and accidents that lead to death you would end up with several hundred percent of your original population dead. It's a wonder that we ever survived to the age of vaccination. However it was an amusing demonstration and Wakefield is a dick.
herbiepop 1 month ago
@herbiepop I was thinking the same about his use of percentages :) + in a country where most are vaccinated, a non-vaccinated people is some what ring fenced from such diseases.
marcarmstrong88 1 month ago
Brilliant! Great way to visually present this information.
ColdSpot999 1 month ago
Audio quality is much better now! Thanks for the great videos!
atomicparrot 1 month ago
PREACH THE GOSPEL OF REASON!
Haradin32 1 month ago
I'm (probably, ya it's genetic) allergic to the preservatives in the vaccines so i have never has one tho i have aspergers soooooooo i according to that paper ... where did i get that from?
jannikmt 1 month ago
@jannikmt Depending on your allergy, I wonder if desensitization would work for you to be able to receive the vaccines. It works for antibiotics on some patients...
sa612136 1 month ago
Sadly the people who need to see this likely wont even watch it and even if they do they are very unlikely to listen to it. It's a very emotional topic and humans love to have someone to blame, especially those in a Western culture (complicated reason there but it has to do a bit with language!). The idea of your child just getting the bad luck of getting autism isn't something many seem to want to accept. It's nicer to point the blame externally. But keep it up! Love the video!
Otokogoroshi 1 month ago
I'm 17 and I've never been vaccinated so could I still be?
TheIdealGasLaw 1 month ago
@TheIdealGasLaw Depends on where you are and what vaccinations you're trying to get. Some are actually hazardous when you're at/near adulthood, though they're harmless to children. Above all, talk to your doctor and get the facts.
Muljinn 1 month ago
@Muljinn
Thanks.
TheIdealGasLaw 1 month ago
@TheIdealGasLaw: Yes. See your doctor.
puncheex 1 month ago
@TheIdealGasLaw assuming you have no problems with your immune system, then many of the vaccines we give are still available to you. Like Muljinn said check with your doctor because none of us here know your medical history, but likely many of them can still be safely administered
sa612136 1 month ago
@sa612136
Yeah, I'll do that. Thanks.
TheIdealGasLaw 1 month ago
Homeopathy would do the trick! ;)
Nicosh1471 1 month ago
OMG! are you gamechap?
wollmg000 1 month ago
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MegaNate07 1 month ago
that jacket/coat/suit is too big for you
CristianApostol 1 month ago
Herd Immunity. If you don't get vaccinated, the most vulnerable people who can't, are effed.
dookiecheez 1 month ago
Of course not getting the vaccination is going to kill a ridiculous amount of people.... It's just to show a point! Very well done sir! Keep it up
jamhayes 1 month ago
For the first part, I call bullshit. No, actually, just see if Pen Jilette responds to that bit.
NoNamesLeft0102 1 month ago
Your logic is wrong!
niepodzielny 1 month ago
@niepodzielny
Your face is wrong.
wesselbindt 1 month ago
First of all: beautifully made video!! Gratz on that. I was wondering though, a disease kill rate of 30%, that is 30% of people infected right? So not 30% of your population would die. I know a lot of the comments have pointed these statistics thingies out, but just saying ^_^. I feel teh best point of the entire video was the last one: it's only due to mass vaccination that not vaccinating is relatively safe :s Keep up the good vids powerm, i'll keep enjoying 'em!!
zottejakke3 1 month ago
Begin countdown 'til the antivaccine morons begin a thumbdown campaign against this video and this channel.
markholdgate 1 month ago
Interesting :)
iliddle96 1 month ago
has anyone ever considered making vaccination mandatory?
ConradW 1 month ago
Chef Excellence says: 'An Excellent Video'
CloudOfBefuddlement 1 month ago
Antivaxxers basic idea - even if they don't realize it - has always been "I'd rather my child was dead than autistic!"
trolleyfan 1 month ago
There's no underestimating the power of a conspiracy theory.
Good video.
falchion49 1 month ago
Nice touch with the wartime propaganda posters.
Tonio31 1 month ago 20
I'm not clear on what you're trying to show. Even, when small pox was around, not everyone would get it. While I agree with the point of the video, you're analogy massively misrepresents the issue to anyone not already familiar with the numbers and statistics.
It's similar to a green peace activist saying nuclear power plants are going to kill 60% of the world's population because 60% of people with severe radiation poisoning die. (I made these numbers up)
TheGentlemanPhysicis 1 month ago 6
@TheGentlemanPhysicis I think he's just showing the worse case scenario.
Pagweb 1 month ago
@TheGentlemanPhysicis I agree, this isn't perfect...
collegehumorrules 1 month ago
*hotter DOH!
rastamiller 1 month ago
You look even otter in black and white :)
rastamiller 1 month ago
@rastamiller yay otters! :3
ConradW 1 month ago
amazing! quite fresh video, and still no big pharma bullshit in the comments!
somberlight 1 month ago
Epic production values.
TaveTheThrasher 1 month ago
Nice video! It may be good to note that a very small percentage dies of complications of the vaccination itself.
benruyl 1 month ago
The point you touched on near the end of your video - vaccinated people protecting the unvaccintated - is explained quite well in this video:
/watch?v=f-cKzzPkz2o&feature=channel_video_title
Blackmark52 1 month ago
Like this comment if you played with toy soldiers when you were a kid,
greenghost2008 1 month ago
Are anti-vax people against all Vax or just some Vax.
greenghost2008 1 month ago
@greenghost2008 There is A LOT of difference.
greenghost2008 1 month ago
@greenghost2008 Well, by anti-vax, most people I've talked to mean the people who are opposed to ALL vaccines (there's quite a few of those people). If you're opposed to a spesific vaccine, but not most of them, you don't count as anti-vax. (I know there must be people using the word to refer to someone with a greif with a spesific vaccine, but I've never run into someone using the word in that manner).
Kulgur 1 month ago
NO, DON'T SAY CHAPS AND CHAPPETTES. I FUCKING HATE GAMECHAP AND BERTY.
IR335 1 month ago
In America they require that you have your vaccinations for college. Otherwise I don't think they let you in. They might require them for high school too.
hardworker424 1 month ago
@hardworker424 You're allowed not to on religious grounds.
Psionic7Rat 1 month ago
@hardworker424 They require certain vaccinations to go into school at all, however, sadly, parents can say "I don't want my child vaccinated" and they don't have to be
Evnyofdeath 1 month ago
@Evnyofdeath That's pretty scary.
hardworker424 1 month ago
@hardworker424 Indeed. The scary thing is, awhile back when I was about 12, I almost fell for the vaccination = autism bull because a friend of the family believed it.
Evnyofdeath 1 month ago
Awesome Myles... really really good.
AuntieDiluvian 1 month ago
I laughed my ass off at the name of the second team. Great job!
InnocuousRemark 1 month ago
i get that the math is iffy here, but thats not important. no proper calculations need to be done as the basic point is: Vaccinations up to, including and surpassing MMR do NOT cause autism.
even if they did WHICH THEY DONT, the lifespan and wellbeing of almost all the populous will drop significantly more than the 1% with autism
even then, of the 1% with autism (and im guestimating) around 50% will have aspergers, a relatively mild social disability.
ilostmypie 1 month ago
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Alpinex105 1 month ago
@powerm1985 Good video, and I agree about polio and Nietzsche - watching Conan years ago, when that quote came up, I shouted out 'what about polio?'
rwburdett 1 month ago
good point, bad math
TalicZealot 1 month ago
Great video, nice to see that your production values have increased Miles, that was always your worst point.
GigaBoost 1 month ago
Great video. Loved the jacket.
jebus6kryst 1 month ago
Excellent video. :) Informative, funny and well presented. (: And it also inspired some bizarre sense of patriotism in me... O.o :P But yes, once again Myles you get 20 out of 10 from me! :D
tsimon1234 1 month ago
Oddly enough, I couldn't get anyone to agree with me that not vaccinating your child is akin to child abuse DURING my pediatrics rotation...
sa612136 1 month ago
@sa612136 I'd agree with you.
YesIamJames 1 month ago
I like the idea, but you've gotten the percentages wrong. Nice video though.
Anonamouse7 1 month ago
On the next to last day of the year I stumble upon one of the best videos of the year.
jdbadboy 1 month ago
Nice P&T-like demonstration. Easily one of the most effective arguments against the thick-headed anti vaccine movement.
wesselbindt 1 month ago
a mass grave of toy soldiers. makes you wonder when the madness will end... down with anti vaxers! lol
nikmindage 1 month ago
The opposition to the opposition have to unite! We can't have those anti-vaccination people organize alone! Let's start an organization for making vaccination mandatory! (We can't let those who don't vaccine to be a threat to human health and safety!)
iasedu 1 month ago 2
@iasedu Those who don't get vaccinated only hurt others' who don't get vaccinated health. Although If you're talking about the evolution of a disease through it's continued existence then I supposed that could be a problem.
Ye4hBuddy 1 month ago
Myles, great video. However I don't think the kill percentages should be addictive like the way you portrait them to be.
Say you have two diseases both with 50% kill rate. Out of a 100 people, there will be a average of 25 people overlap (who are now twice as dead in this lovely scenario). In your simulation it would kill a 100% whereas in reality it would 'only' kill an average of 75%. (Between 50 and 100%)
Phyrexious 1 month ago 20
@Phyrexious Well, this premise of this is that everyone gets infected with every disease.
GigaBoost 1 month ago
@GigaBoost
Doesn't matter. If you have 2 diseases with a 50% kill rate you still have a 25% chance of living. Not 100-50-50= 0%.
The kill percentage should be subtracted from the remaining population, not the original starting point.
Of course the whole notion of "percentage based kill rate" is a bit odd. It wouldn't surprise me if certain people are much more susceptible or resistant to diseases, plus there might be some correlation between one disease and another.
Phyrexious 1 month ago
@Phyrexious I was thinking of doing it one disease after another. So the 60 people who survived small pox would have a 7% dying from Diphtheria. But then I would have to deal with non round numbers and the whole thing becomes overly complicated for something at the end is very simple. If you don't get your child vaccinated you run the risk of them catching very real diseases.
powerm1985 1 month ago 23
@powerm1985 HA! double maths fail. I meant 70 survivors.
powerm1985 1 month ago 2
@powerm1985
Yeah true, I fully agree with getting vaccinations of course.
I always find it kinda sad when people rather listen to the ramblings of one (discredited) guy and ignore years of solid science in the meantime.
Where did you get the cool military outfit btw? :)
Phyrexious 1 month ago
This is going to win the war against ignorance, soldier!
Gigano1986 1 month ago
@powerm1985 Terrific video!!! and happy new year Miles
MoMember88 1 month ago
I have Asperger's, and I'm glad I got all the usual childhood vaccinations here in the UK. I asked the nurse at my GP's surgery recently about getting a meningitis C vaccine that wasn't available when I was a child, but it turned out that I'm too old to be given the vaccine now (it's only offered to people under 25). ASD's run in my family, and I've no concerns about my Asperger's being caused by vaccines.
Peter5930 1 month ago
ARe those your models? If so, who are they made by and what scale? lol >.<
Danoftouni 1 month ago
such a well made video ^_^
palegothicangel 1 month ago 4
@palegothicangel Thanx really trying to improve my production values
powerm1985 1 month ago 3
I always enjoy seeing another video in my sub list from you! Is that fake autism scare still rearing it's ugly head in the UK? We have more than enough kooks in the US that buy into these conspiracy theories about everything from vaccinations to water fluoridation. I would think you folks in the UK were smarter than us since you actually have free NHS vaccines!
awreslr2 1 month ago
@awreslr2 I'd like to think most of us are smarter but the media is just as terrible at reporting science over here, it's a big problem. I've seen a few headlines stating links between autism and MMR jabs.
YesIamJames 1 month ago
I do think that is implying everyone gets the disease. All at the same time, without getting extra complications because you get them all at the same fucking time. I'm probably wrong, but is the math. That being said : Lovely visualisation, great video , like usual.
ForYeensSake 1 month ago
@ForYeensSake Damn it you got me to it. I DID say it was a great video though :P
ForYeensSake 1 month ago
awesome vids! intro never gets old!
jordanwade94 1 month ago
great work!
kapwns 1 month ago
Of course I agree vaccinations are very useful and linking it to autism is absolute bollocks.
But just to be completely unethical:
It would make mankind more resistant to diseases in the long run, if nobody would be vaccinated... Might cost a couple (read: an awful lot) of lives throughout the centuries, but we're already overpopulating the planet anyway ;-)
Ligermorph 1 month ago
@Ligermorph Remember though that diseases can and do adapt to defeat those resistances. Its a biological arms race. Even after surviving a population bottleneck event, vulnerabilities would still be there and exploited by new potentially nastier diseases. Unethical hell yes. Effective? Not at all.
0Soule0 1 month ago
@0Soule0 I'm not denying it's a biological arms race ;)
Stopping diseases by vaccination only works by keeping it up till the disease is extinct. Since vaccine development is fast, it works fine. So I'm pro-vaccination, go science!
BUT, vaccines don't cause major gene mutations that increase survivability for a population. e.g. the bubonic plague killed millions in Europe, but it did cause a mutation in the remaining population making them more resistant to HIV.
Unethical, but not ineffective.
Ligermorph 1 month ago
@Ligermorph The brbonic plague didn't cause any mutation among the remaining population, it caused a positive selection for the gene which offered resistance. It's a nit-picky criticism but an important difference.
I agree that modern medicine removes these selective pressures though, 1000s of them, which is why I advocate GATTACA style eugenics offered free to every human being on the planet once the technology is both affordable and better understood.
YesIamJames 1 month ago
@YesIamJames Yea you're right about the plague causing the selection for the gene, I kinda meant it as "plague causing the change within the general population".. But the limited text space on YT worked against me :P
And totally agree on Gattaca style eugenics being the future, just a matter of time!
Ligermorph 1 month ago
@Ligermorph I hope so, unfortunately the vast majority of people are unwilling to even conciser the possibility because of eugenic's not so favourable history. As for the population crisis hopefully this will balance out (I might be being overly optimistic though), better education leads to people having less children especially among women. This combined more efficient technology such as fusion and high yield GM crops could be enough to save us.
YesIamJames 1 month ago
This is great!
Tippitapitus 1 month ago
I had to fight to get my daughter vaccinated. i used logic to win the argument. she found all of the nonsense propaganda on the internet, then i used the internet to prove her argument wrong. took alot of work. WHY U NO POST THIS 2 YEARS AGO!!!??!
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also your getting better at making videos. thanks for the post.
thenofxer 1 month ago
@thenofxer i feel for you mate, that must have been infuriating.
Bot23 1 month ago
@thenofxer I am glad you succeeded in the end.
First off, I have no children or spouse so this doesn't relate to me personally.
Here in the Netherlands we generally have the highest turn up rate for vaccination in all of Europe. A few years back there was a vaccination against some disease that girls could get (some breast disease). There was an estimated turn up rate of about 90% to 85% however, bullshit that floated around the internet pushed that back to close to 40%.
tiaxanderson 1 month ago
@tiaxanderson I live in Alaska where ignorance reigns supreme. People will believe anything.
thenofxer 1 month ago
great video :)
Vortex9333 1 month ago
Hello!
Vortex9333 1 month ago