Do you know that Hazrat Ali karamallah hu wajhu is the king of all sufis you are not muslim stop acting stop his wife Syeda Fatima Is THE FIRST Sultana Of Fuqara Sufism is part of the suunnah You call yourself a sheikh who made you a sheikh? you? you are a munafiq stop making yor videos
@SmooveBoii252 Allaah will hold you accountable for alleging that Ali was a Sufee!! Great is the word which comes out of your mouth!! Then you have the nerve to call me a Munaafiq? Amazing is the affair of the deviants indeed.
Ok Mr Your Going To Far....Dnt Bring Allahs Wrath upon your self Sufism Is The Spirit of islam The Holy Last Messenger (S.A.W) himself was a Faqeer you need to stop you are going against the way of Allah STOP now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you will be on your way to jahenam do not continue this is from a sincere advisor you will be destroyed and you will meet a miserable end
So we understand that there is a type of Sufism which is on the correct path. I understand that there are many groups out there claiming to be sufis whom even I warn against, but we can’t just label ‘sufis’ as the misguided.
There is no Sufi on the correct path. The correct path is that of Allaah's messenger. Was he a Sufi?? Did he use the term? Did he teach their Tareeqahs??? Fear Allaah ya Akhee and stop speaking without knowledge.
@MountAnalogue u need to understand the difference between innovation in dunya and deen. anything innovated to the dunya e,g cars,planes,trains,telephone etc are all fine. but innoation into the deen is what will send you to the hellfire. sufism isnt part of islam, it came about after the prophet (s.a.w), the methods used by sufi's were not done by the prophet so they are bidah. and the prophet (s.a.w) said 'EVERY bidah will lead u astray, whether you percieve it as good ot not'
Theres a statement Imam Malik (Rahimahullah) that he said “whoever does ‘Tafaqquh’ (from fiqh) and does not do ‘Tasawwuf’ is a faasiq and whoever does ‘Tasawwuf’ and does not do ‘Tafaqquh’ is a ‘Zindeeq’ [which is obviously even worse as it is out of the folds of Islam], and whoever joins both together, he is on the truth.”
You need to prove Imaam Maalik actually said that. Assuming he did, he must have been speaking about the light Sufis back then. Today, they are way off the path. Either way, I stated that they are at different levels already in the lecture. And I repeat, the best of them are still misguided.
I really admire the fact that you provide proofs and evidence from the Holy Quran and Sunnah when explaining a point, however, there are many things you have spoke against or many people you have described as wrong who also have their evidences and authentic sources.
You summarise the ‘sufis’ as the deviant sect or the innovators etc. However, not all sufis or their Sufism is the same.
Brother, after watching many of your videos, a couple of questions arise in my mind. Many things I agree with Alhumdulillah, but many i disagree. I can imagine what kind of things that might come up in your head after reading this much but I begin by clarifying that I am not writing to create enmity between us, I am merely writing a friendly enquiry to learn your views. It may be that I benefit from you or vice-versa as we learn something new every day.
How can a man saying something of which he haven't know the essence of tasawwuf, haven't entered the path of tasawwuf or even sit down and talk directly and spend time with these so called man of tasawwuf before being label them as innovators? rejecting something before fully grasped the true understanding of ilm' is also a form of arrogance brother. Salam brother.
Allaah said "What is after the truth except misguidance" I do not need to practice deviance to recoginze it. Once it opposes the truth which Allaah's Messenger brought from Allaah, you and I are obliged to abandon it my brother.
I totally agree that what is after truth except misguidance and we too need not to practice deviance to recognize it. The crux of the issue is some people claimed that only their path is the true one while labeling other muslims who take other path as deviance. That is unfair judgement. And i agree the truth is only what Allah's messenger brought from Allah.
Wow, maybe you and the petro-dollar najdism you preach, should also try to correct the majority of ulema in the history of Islam, who linked to some sort of spiritual path, a true path of tasawwuf, which linked them back to the Sahaba. Imam Suyuti, Subki, Ibn Tayimiiyya (who the najdis have misrepresented), Nawawi, Asqalani, Haythami, Razi, Izz Abd asSalam...the list is too long..they were all wrong, and didn't know the Sunnah? Maybe you can pray for them, and they will be forgiven?
@OneWayToParadise Yes, I see. Thanks for your input. I'm going to have to look into him a bit more, and other scholars' opinions of him, before I come to that conclusion, though. Salaam!
subhanaAllah...JazakaAllah qeir bro .. but i wonder why some of the sis/bro are being rude i mean even if he did say something wrong, u would have to find 70 excuses before u blame him
Salamu Alakum, brother let me teach you something inshAllah, Im sure you know what
Allah Azawajal & Muhammad sas said about imitating KAFIRS, then why do you use the
word MAN? this is slang language that gangsters in America use don't you know that?
you said you wanted to be a RAPPER, please correct yourself before others, DONT copy KAFIRS. Secondly when you say "'Salahu aleyhi wasalam'' don't disrespect the prophet by saying it quickly, mumbling it and think your COOL, say it slowly.
First, I appreciate that you took the time to teach me something.
Second, the term "man" is a common term used by English speaking people just like any word you typed here. It is not a word that carries a particular religious connotation that renders it prohibited. Please do not issue Fataawaa anymore. If every word the Kuffaar use, we abandon, then the Qur'aan was in the language of the disbelievers of Quraish and Allaah quoted their statements in it.
Thirdly, I said I WAS A RAPPER before I entered Islaam and I mentioned that I had become a Buddhist and it was then when I was a rapper. Allaah commands that you do justice.
Fourthly, when delivering lectures or talks, you may lose control at times for various reasons and I agree with you, I should say it slower. I am not trying to be Cool.
Lastly, fear Allaah concerning your judgment and do not be biased when advising. Your advice is more disrespectful than beneficial.
In Islam you need Ijiza to speak, in the time of the Prophet(pbuh) there were thousands of companions though ONLY three had authorization to SPEAK. Please tell me who gave this person that? he is trying to reform Islam teachings with lies and deception, Shaikh Al-Albani has been refuted by many many scholars of his works such as his own revision of Sahih Bukhari!
Where is your Ijaazah allowing you to ask for mine? For one to evaluate and then render someone unqualified, they must be more qualified themselves. What are your qualifications. Further, lying against the Sahaabah is a great crime and a Shii approach. Only 3 spoke?? Have you read the Seerah?
@sufidervish786 , that is ridiculous, Sheikh Albani is one of the most reverred scholars on hadith of all time. As much as I respect Tahir ul-Qadri his influence in no way stretches as far as that of Albani..
listen to this man. he, with his infinitesimally small knowledge, he has the audacity to insulted the grandson of the Prophet Muhammad (Peace and Blessings Upon Him).
He thinks he knows more about how to act like the Prophet Muhammad (Peace and Blessings Upon Him) than the family, who know secrets that we never will know.
Thank you for your kind words. I will receive my rights and reward from you on the day of Recompense Inshaa'Allaah. On that day, you will regret leaving this comment. See you then.
It has been reported Ibn Mas'oud (ra) said: "Allaah's Messenger drew a line for us and then said, "This is Allaah's Path." Then he drew lines to its right and its left, and said "These are different paths, upon each of them there is a Shaytaan (devil) calling to it".
Then he the prophet recited the verse :
"And Verily this is My Path, so follow it, and do not follow other paths for they will separate you away from His Path."
Ashaab As-soeffah existed in the time of the Prophet sws,there are about 4 Sahih Hadis where Prophet Mohammed uses Ashaab or Ahl as-soeffah literly,about Dhikr loud in group,Ibn Abbaas has in Sahih al-Boechaarie hadith where he say"The Dhikr of Allah in group with loud voice was done during the Prophet sws lifetime",there are more Sahih hadis that support Soefism.
There is sahih hadis that mention who belong to Ashaab as-soefah 51 of the best sahaba,and u say Sufis are inovators?
@moehammadmano I already explained that linguistically, the term Sufi can not be derived from AshaabuSuffah. The narrations about raising the voices after the Salaah do not suggest that they were done in unison or done regularely every time they remembered Allaah. Do not claim that there are narrations which support Sufism, prove it please.
@XXXHOTXXXWow If the sahaba had asked the prophet (sallal lahu alayhi wasallam) for books then where would Islam be? They did takleel at badr, at uhud, they didn't need daleel, who are you idiots to demand daleel from anyone? It's good enough for people like Abu Bakr and Umar (may ALLAH be pleased with them) but not good enough for you? What are your daleel's against mawlid? Just because you don't love the prophet doesn't mean we don't.
@NasheedLuv Dear Bro. The first part of your questions I did not get it but(just in case), if you meant that they didn't ask for ''Daleel'', well because they didn't need it as Rasool Allah was with them ALIVE!!. Secondly, If we really claim to LOVE the Prophet(PBUH) wouldn't we obey him? The Prophet(PBUH) didn't celebrate his ''birthday''!? While he was alive nor the Sahaba did so. Are we or our Shuyukh better than the Prophet(PBUH) and the companions? If I love I'll obey isn't my beloved Bro.?
The sciences of tafsir or fiqh or aqeeda were also not mentioned by name by Rasulallah s.a.w. Do we also say that this is innovation? Why can't tasawuff be the science of perfecting ihsan? Not saying that i agree with outrageous sufi practices, but tasawuff means different things to different people, as evidenced by much discussion of the topic in our scholarly tradition.
@MulletKid This is an incorrect claim. Fiqh for example was mentioned in the Quraan and the Prophet. Also, these names are given since they carry a sound relevant meaning in the Arabic language. Fiqh means to understand, Tafseer is to explain, Aqeedah is a tied knot or firm belief in something. Where did Tassawauf come from??
@OneWayToParadise But your argument is not linguistic - your argument is that this science was not practices as a codified science during the time of Rasulallah s.a.w., hence it being a bidah. But sciences of aqeeda, for example, were not there either, in a form that was taught in the centuries after.
@MulletKid My argument is linguistic and conceptual. If Sufis adhered to the Sunnah, then they are no longer Sufis. There is no Sufi who adheres to the Sunnah without innovating. Once he does, try calling him a Sufi and he'll refuse. This is not the case for students of Aqeedah or Fiqh.
@Oo786oO Did you watch the whole lecture Akhi? There is something called Zuhd in Islaam which we all agree to. We do not have anything called Tasswauf or anything which is a by-product of it. Case closed.
@Oo786oO I did answer your question brother. Allow me to simplify things here. Every innovation leads astray. Once something is not based on the Sunnah, it is bound to harm Islaam. If all those Sufis and thier lovers had a proper understanding of the concept of innovations in Islaam, we would not be having these conversations. Why do you insist on using a term which has no authentic reference? And does Sufism really end with simply a word and spirituality? Please Akhi..
You mentioned what Imam Malik stated (rahimahullaah) stated. He also stated: "whoever studies Jurisprudence [tafaqaha] and didn't study Sufism [tasawwaf] will be corrupted; and whoever studied Sufism and didn't study Jurisprudence will become a heretic; and whoever combined both will reach the Truth."
@Oo786oO You need to provide the chain of narrators which authentiactes such statement!! According to this lie against the Imaam, the Prophet and the companions where all heretics since they did not study or teach Sufism!! What do you think? Are you not aware how many similar statements were forged by the Sufis to support their deviance? Is the Sunnah of the Messenger of Allaah not enough for you? If he never mentioned the word Tasawwuf or teach it, why do you need it?
@marylebonem Give me a break! Go to Zaytuna site and read for yourself.. It is all Sufi stuff.. Sister, either you are confused or in denial... Plus, Allaah commanded us to seek the truth, enjoin the good and forbid the evil. By leaving these arguments for Allaah as you mentioned, there will be no point in these commands. Please learn the basics of the Deen before you advise in this fashion.
@Synergistik Had you not been a Sufi, I would have taken your point into consideration. But, coming from a Sufi, you would naturally consider the one who doesn't agree with you to be arrogant. The matter is simpler. There is truth and there is falsehood. There is no philosophy involved. After the truth manifests, the humble people follow it and the arrogant amongst them justify their rejection by claiming that things are not clear and there's more to it bla bla bla... This is the difference...
@SunshineOfIslam what do u mean, some says right and some says wrong, i dont understand,, My question is, what are the basis to say someone is right and one is wrong? we need to discuss it.
@marylebonem Wa Alaykum Assalaam. Why don't you google the following :
"Imam Hamza Yusuf Tasawwuf/Sufism in Islam" and read the lecture he dlivered on Sufism.... So if he denies it in one place, and calls to it elsewhere, you can guess the rest. Also, in his site for Zaytouna Institute, one of the material they teach is the "Burdah Poem" which clearly gives the messenger the attributes of Allaah... The most favorite Sufi poem of all times. No Sunnah based Islaamic school teaches it....
Do you know that Hazrat Ali karamallah hu wajhu is the king of all sufis you are not muslim stop acting stop his wife Syeda Fatima Is THE FIRST Sultana Of Fuqara Sufism is part of the suunnah You call yourself a sheikh who made you a sheikh? you? you are a munafiq stop making yor videos
SmooveBoii252 1 month ago 5
@SmooveBoii252 Allaah will hold you accountable for alleging that Ali was a Sufee!! Great is the word which comes out of your mouth!! Then you have the nerve to call me a Munaafiq? Amazing is the affair of the deviants indeed.
OneWayToParadise 1 month ago
Ok Mr Your Going To Far....Dnt Bring Allahs Wrath upon your self Sufism Is The Spirit of islam The Holy Last Messenger (S.A.W) himself was a Faqeer you need to stop you are going against the way of Allah STOP now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you will be on your way to jahenam do not continue this is from a sincere advisor you will be destroyed and you will meet a miserable end
SmooveBoii252 1 month ago 2
U have to laugh at these najdi heretics.
potjhm1 10 months ago 8
So we understand that there is a type of Sufism which is on the correct path. I understand that there are many groups out there claiming to be sufis whom even I warn against, but we can’t just label ‘sufis’ as the misguided.
MDMohib 1 year ago 9
@MDMohib
There is no Sufi on the correct path. The correct path is that of Allaah's messenger. Was he a Sufi?? Did he use the term? Did he teach their Tareeqahs??? Fear Allaah ya Akhee and stop speaking without knowledge.
OneWayToParadise 1 year ago 24
@OneWayToParadise
Did Muhammad use YouTube? guess you cant do that either. according to this logic anyway. Sufism is as much a part of Islam as anything else.
MountAnalogue 4 months ago
@MountAnalogue u need to understand the difference between innovation in dunya and deen. anything innovated to the dunya e,g cars,planes,trains,telephone etc are all fine. but innoation into the deen is what will send you to the hellfire. sufism isnt part of islam, it came about after the prophet (s.a.w), the methods used by sufi's were not done by the prophet so they are bidah. and the prophet (s.a.w) said 'EVERY bidah will lead u astray, whether you percieve it as good ot not'
SquareFan786 1 month ago
Theres a statement Imam Malik (Rahimahullah) that he said “whoever does ‘Tafaqquh’ (from fiqh) and does not do ‘Tasawwuf’ is a faasiq and whoever does ‘Tasawwuf’ and does not do ‘Tafaqquh’ is a ‘Zindeeq’ [which is obviously even worse as it is out of the folds of Islam], and whoever joins both together, he is on the truth.”
MDMohib 1 year ago 8
@MDMohib
You need to prove Imaam Maalik actually said that. Assuming he did, he must have been speaking about the light Sufis back then. Today, they are way off the path. Either way, I stated that they are at different levels already in the lecture. And I repeat, the best of them are still misguided.
OneWayToParadise 1 year ago 4
I really admire the fact that you provide proofs and evidence from the Holy Quran and Sunnah when explaining a point, however, there are many things you have spoke against or many people you have described as wrong who also have their evidences and authentic sources.
You summarise the ‘sufis’ as the deviant sect or the innovators etc. However, not all sufis or their Sufism is the same.
MDMohib 1 year ago
Salaam.
Brother, after watching many of your videos, a couple of questions arise in my mind. Many things I agree with Alhumdulillah, but many i disagree. I can imagine what kind of things that might come up in your head after reading this much but I begin by clarifying that I am not writing to create enmity between us, I am merely writing a friendly enquiry to learn your views. It may be that I benefit from you or vice-versa as we learn something new every day.
MDMohib 1 year ago 2
How can a man saying something of which he haven't know the essence of tasawwuf, haven't entered the path of tasawwuf or even sit down and talk directly and spend time with these so called man of tasawwuf before being label them as innovators? rejecting something before fully grasped the true understanding of ilm' is also a form of arrogance brother. Salam brother.
reshthop 1 year ago 2
@reshthop
Allaah said "What is after the truth except misguidance" I do not need to practice deviance to recoginze it. Once it opposes the truth which Allaah's Messenger brought from Allaah, you and I are obliged to abandon it my brother.
OneWayToParadise 1 year ago 24
@OneWayToParadise
I totally agree that what is after truth except misguidance and we too need not to practice deviance to recognize it. The crux of the issue is some people claimed that only their path is the true one while labeling other muslims who take other path as deviance. That is unfair judgement. And i agree the truth is only what Allah's messenger brought from Allah.
reshthop 1 year ago
@OneWayToParadise INDEED. Brother come to austin texas, we will welcome you
rahatkhan 1 year ago
Wow, maybe you and the petro-dollar najdism you preach, should also try to correct the majority of ulema in the history of Islam, who linked to some sort of spiritual path, a true path of tasawwuf, which linked them back to the Sahaba. Imam Suyuti, Subki, Ibn Tayimiiyya (who the najdis have misrepresented), Nawawi, Asqalani, Haythami, Razi, Izz Abd asSalam...the list is too long..they were all wrong, and didn't know the Sunnah? Maybe you can pray for them, and they will be forgiven?
vegard555 1 year ago
@vegard555
That is an outrageous claim. Ibn Tayimiiyaa was a Sufi?? Subhaanallaah. When people become blind to innovations, sky's the limit.
OneWayToParadise 1 year ago 3
thank you ever so much may Allah reward you i have learnt alot may Allah increase your knowledge ameen
mushakal 1 year ago
Assalamulaikum,
I'm a bit confused now, so please clarify. Do you, brother OneWaytoParadise, consider Sheikh Hamza Yusuf to be a legitimate Islamic Scholar?
ManifestationOfTruth 1 year ago
@ManifestationOfTruth
Wa Alaykum Assalaam,
I rather consider him an innovator and someone whom we do not take knowledge from. I made that clear in the lecture.
OneWayToParadise 1 year ago
@OneWayToParadise Yes, I see. Thanks for your input. I'm going to have to look into him a bit more, and other scholars' opinions of him, before I come to that conclusion, though. Salaam!
ManifestationOfTruth 1 year ago
@OneWayToParadise
JazakaAllahu Khair! I've listened to most of the lectures and I'm benefiting very much, May Allah preserve you.
inshallahjanna 1 year ago
subhanaAllah...JazakaAllah qeir bro .. but i wonder why some of the sis/bro are being rude i mean even if he did say something wrong, u would have to find 70 excuses before u blame him
after all.. Allah is the all knowing all wise
allhamdulilah1234 1 year ago
Salamu Alakum, brother let me teach you something inshAllah, Im sure you know what
Allah Azawajal & Muhammad sas said about imitating KAFIRS, then why do you use the
word MAN? this is slang language that gangsters in America use don't you know that?
you said you wanted to be a RAPPER, please correct yourself before others, DONT copy KAFIRS. Secondly when you say "'Salahu aleyhi wasalam'' don't disrespect the prophet by saying it quickly, mumbling it and think your COOL, say it slowly.
Anisah81 1 year ago
@Anisah81
Wa Alaykum Assalaam,
First, I appreciate that you took the time to teach me something.
Second, the term "man" is a common term used by English speaking people just like any word you typed here. It is not a word that carries a particular religious connotation that renders it prohibited. Please do not issue Fataawaa anymore. If every word the Kuffaar use, we abandon, then the Qur'aan was in the language of the disbelievers of Quraish and Allaah quoted their statements in it.
OneWayToParadise 1 year ago 13
@Anisah81
Thirdly, I said I WAS A RAPPER before I entered Islaam and I mentioned that I had become a Buddhist and it was then when I was a rapper. Allaah commands that you do justice.
Fourthly, when delivering lectures or talks, you may lose control at times for various reasons and I agree with you, I should say it slower. I am not trying to be Cool.
Lastly, fear Allaah concerning your judgment and do not be biased when advising. Your advice is more disrespectful than beneficial.
OneWayToParadise 1 year ago 19
In Islam you need Ijiza to speak, in the time of the Prophet(pbuh) there were thousands of companions though ONLY three had authorization to SPEAK. Please tell me who gave this person that? he is trying to reform Islam teachings with lies and deception, Shaikh Al-Albani has been refuted by many many scholars of his works such as his own revision of Sahih Bukhari!
/watch?v=yyxjkQqptgI
Al-Albani changing Sahih Bukhari
/watch?v=wsicyJ6HI7A&feature=related
May Allah Guide us all.
sufidervish786 1 year ago
@sufidervish786
Where is your Ijaazah allowing you to ask for mine? For one to evaluate and then render someone unqualified, they must be more qualified themselves. What are your qualifications. Further, lying against the Sahaabah is a great crime and a Shii approach. Only 3 spoke?? Have you read the Seerah?
OneWayToParadise 1 year ago 10
@sufidervish786 Dear Bro. I have ''Ijaza'' from Allah to speak didn't you read Allah words when He said:-
[ Ye are the best of peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in Allah.... ] ?
.::Surrat Al-Emran, Aya 110::.
*Shaikh Al-Albany(RA) he is one of the Top people who have served the Sunnah of our beloved Prophet(PBUH).
May Allah guide us all to the straight path, which is following, obeying and implementing and not otherwise.
The3GenerationsIslam 1 year ago 13
@sufidervish786 , that is ridiculous, Sheikh Albani is one of the most reverred scholars on hadith of all time. As much as I respect Tahir ul-Qadri his influence in no way stretches as far as that of Albani..
wajahatkhan 1 year ago
listen to this man. he, with his infinitesimally small knowledge, he has the audacity to insulted the grandson of the Prophet Muhammad (Peace and Blessings Upon Him).
He thinks he knows more about how to act like the Prophet Muhammad (Peace and Blessings Upon Him) than the family, who know secrets that we never will know.
What a jahl
SuperSunni786 1 year ago
@SuperSunni786
Thank you for your kind words.
OneWayToParadise 1 year ago 4
@SuperSunni786 giving this man your hasanat? Masha Allah a wonderful gift =)
IleocecalSphincter 1 year ago
WAHABIISAM = TERRORISAM SPREADV WAHABISM YOU IDIOT SAUDI FUNDED TERRORIST MAULVI
pandittjee 1 year ago
@pandittjee
Thank you for your kind words. I will receive my rights and reward from you on the day of Recompense Inshaa'Allaah. On that day, you will regret leaving this comment. See you then.
OneWayToParadise 1 year ago 17
@OneWayToParadise Lol nice reply
muslimallday 1 year ago
It has been reported Ibn Mas'oud (ra) said: "Allaah's Messenger drew a line for us and then said, "This is Allaah's Path." Then he drew lines to its right and its left, and said "These are different paths, upon each of them there is a Shaytaan (devil) calling to it".
Then he the prophet recited the verse :
"And Verily this is My Path, so follow it, and do not follow other paths for they will separate you away from His Path."
[Soorah al-An'aam, 6: 153]
mbksold 1 year ago 2
Ashaab As-soeffah existed in the time of the Prophet sws,there are about 4 Sahih Hadis where Prophet Mohammed uses Ashaab or Ahl as-soeffah literly,about Dhikr loud in group,Ibn Abbaas has in Sahih al-Boechaarie hadith where he say"The Dhikr of Allah in group with loud voice was done during the Prophet sws lifetime",there are more Sahih hadis that support Soefism.
There is sahih hadis that mention who belong to Ashaab as-soefah 51 of the best sahaba,and u say Sufis are inovators?
moehammadmano 1 year ago
@moehammadmano I already explained that linguistically, the term Sufi can not be derived from AshaabuSuffah. The narrations about raising the voices after the Salaah do not suggest that they were done in unison or done regularely every time they remembered Allaah. Do not claim that there are narrations which support Sufism, prove it please.
OneWayToParadise 1 year ago 6
May Allah guide Hamza yusuf and Aljafri and their helprs to the TRUTH manhaj of SALAF=The Prophet+Sahaba(Including Ahlul Albait and 4 Imams).
*Bida'a and Shirk list:-
1) Making special way to worship Allah
2) Bowing to each others
3) Calling people instead of Allah in Dua'a
4) Making 100% ''Taqleed'' without daleel and without questionning
5) Celebrating Mawlid
Please Sufi Bro. Sis. IMPLEMENT SUNNAH, IMPLEMENT YOUR TRUE RELIGION.
Walahi we want the good for you..
XXXHOTXXXWow 1 year ago 41
@XXXHOTXXXWow If the sahaba had asked the prophet (sallal lahu alayhi wasallam) for books then where would Islam be? They did takleel at badr, at uhud, they didn't need daleel, who are you idiots to demand daleel from anyone? It's good enough for people like Abu Bakr and Umar (may ALLAH be pleased with them) but not good enough for you? What are your daleel's against mawlid? Just because you don't love the prophet doesn't mean we don't.
NasheedLuv 1 year ago
@NasheedLuv Dear Bro. The first part of your questions I did not get it but(just in case), if you meant that they didn't ask for ''Daleel'', well because they didn't need it as Rasool Allah was with them ALIVE!!. Secondly, If we really claim to LOVE the Prophet(PBUH) wouldn't we obey him? The Prophet(PBUH) didn't celebrate his ''birthday''!? While he was alive nor the Sahaba did so. Are we or our Shuyukh better than the Prophet(PBUH) and the companions? If I love I'll obey isn't my beloved Bro.?
The3GenerationsIslam 1 year ago 4
The sciences of tafsir or fiqh or aqeeda were also not mentioned by name by Rasulallah s.a.w. Do we also say that this is innovation? Why can't tasawuff be the science of perfecting ihsan? Not saying that i agree with outrageous sufi practices, but tasawuff means different things to different people, as evidenced by much discussion of the topic in our scholarly tradition.
MulletKid 1 year ago
@MulletKid This is an incorrect claim. Fiqh for example was mentioned in the Quraan and the Prophet. Also, these names are given since they carry a sound relevant meaning in the Arabic language. Fiqh means to understand, Tafseer is to explain, Aqeedah is a tied knot or firm belief in something. Where did Tassawauf come from??
OneWayToParadise 1 year ago 2
@OneWayToParadise But your argument is not linguistic - your argument is that this science was not practices as a codified science during the time of Rasulallah s.a.w., hence it being a bidah. But sciences of aqeeda, for example, were not there either, in a form that was taught in the centuries after.
MulletKid 1 year ago
@MulletKid My argument is linguistic and conceptual. If Sufis adhered to the Sunnah, then they are no longer Sufis. There is no Sufi who adheres to the Sunnah without innovating. Once he does, try calling him a Sufi and he'll refuse. This is not the case for students of Aqeedah or Fiqh.
OneWayToParadise 1 year ago 8
@OneWayToParadise
Salamu Aleikum.
I see you mentions names regarding scholars.
Can you shed some light on Tahir ul Qadri from Pakistan, is he okay to follow as scholare?
denstorebog 1 year ago
@denstorebog TAHIR IS A HANIFI SUFI WHO SPEAKS BAD ABOUT SALAFIYYA AL ALBANI BIN BAZ UTHAYMEEN ETC. HE IS THE SUFIS BEST FRIENDS
muslimallday 1 year ago
@OneWayToParadise Tasawwf came from Sheep !!!
FirstGenerations 1 year ago 7
@Oo786oO Did you watch the whole lecture Akhi? There is something called Zuhd in Islaam which we all agree to. We do not have anything called Tasswauf or anything which is a by-product of it. Case closed.
OneWayToParadise 1 year ago
@OneWayToParadise
I watched the whole lecture as well as the question and answer session in one sitting yes. Why would I respond otherwise?
You've not answered my question akhi. I'm specifically asking what you disagree with, with regards to tasawwuf, not its by-products.
Oo786oO 1 year ago
@Oo786oO I did answer your question brother. Allow me to simplify things here. Every innovation leads astray. Once something is not based on the Sunnah, it is bound to harm Islaam. If all those Sufis and thier lovers had a proper understanding of the concept of innovations in Islaam, we would not be having these conversations. Why do you insist on using a term which has no authentic reference? And does Sufism really end with simply a word and spirituality? Please Akhi..
OneWayToParadise 1 year ago 3
You mentioned what Imam Malik stated (rahimahullaah) stated. He also stated: "whoever studies Jurisprudence [tafaqaha] and didn't study Sufism [tasawwaf] will be corrupted; and whoever studied Sufism and didn't study Jurisprudence will become a heretic; and whoever combined both will reach the Truth."
['Ali al-Adawi , vol. 2, p 195.]
Oo786oO 1 year ago
@Oo786oO You need to provide the chain of narrators which authentiactes such statement!! According to this lie against the Imaam, the Prophet and the companions where all heretics since they did not study or teach Sufism!! What do you think? Are you not aware how many similar statements were forged by the Sufis to support their deviance? Is the Sunnah of the Messenger of Allaah not enough for you? If he never mentioned the word Tasawwuf or teach it, why do you need it?
OneWayToParadise 1 year ago 5
@Synergistik Wa Alaykum Assalaam. You are welcome Akhi.
OneWayToParadise 1 year ago
@marylebonem Give me a break! Go to Zaytuna site and read for yourself.. It is all Sufi stuff.. Sister, either you are confused or in denial... Plus, Allaah commanded us to seek the truth, enjoin the good and forbid the evil. By leaving these arguments for Allaah as you mentioned, there will be no point in these commands. Please learn the basics of the Deen before you advise in this fashion.
OneWayToParadise 1 year ago 2
@Synergistik Had you not been a Sufi, I would have taken your point into consideration. But, coming from a Sufi, you would naturally consider the one who doesn't agree with you to be arrogant. The matter is simpler. There is truth and there is falsehood. There is no philosophy involved. After the truth manifests, the humble people follow it and the arrogant amongst them justify their rejection by claiming that things are not clear and there's more to it bla bla bla... This is the difference...
OneWayToParadise 1 year ago
Salam O alaikum Wr wb
I was always keen to know about Sufism or sufis
B'coz its kind of a hit topic Among many people ,some say its Right some says
Its wrong
so In sha Allah looking forward to this series of lecture
JazakAllahu Khair
SunshineOfIslam 1 year ago
@SunshineOfIslam what do u mean, some says right and some says wrong, i dont understand,, My question is, what are the basis to say someone is right and one is wrong? we need to discuss it.
geniusyasee 1 year ago
@marylebonem Wa Alaykum Assalaam. Why don't you google the following :
"Imam Hamza Yusuf Tasawwuf/Sufism in Islam" and read the lecture he dlivered on Sufism.... So if he denies it in one place, and calls to it elsewhere, you can guess the rest. Also, in his site for Zaytouna Institute, one of the material they teach is the "Burdah Poem" which clearly gives the messenger the attributes of Allaah... The most favorite Sufi poem of all times. No Sunnah based Islaamic school teaches it....
OneWayToParadise 1 year ago 2
Djazakum allahu khairan for this,this will go to my favoriet.
Mocro1984 1 year ago 2