Surrender means that the history of this heroic struggle will be written by the enemy; that our youth will be trained by Northern school teachers; will learn from Northern school books their version of the War; will be impressed by all the influences of history and education to regard our gallant dead as traitors, and our maimed veterans as fit subjects for derision. -General Pat Cleburne, CSA
VALCAR YOU NEED A HISTORY LESSON YOU BRAIN DEAD FUCK. THE CIVIL WAR WASNT ABOUT SLAVERY ONLY 3% OF THE SOUTH HAD SLAVES. THE SOUTH WAS BEING TAX TO DEATH SO THE LEFT THE UNION AND THE ONLY WAY THE NORTH COULD GET THE TAXS WAS BY FORCE SO FUCK HEAD LINCOLN PAINTED A PICTURE LIKE IT WAS ABOUT SLAVERY FK THE NORTH HAD SLAVES
In all honesty. A simple Generals signitaure would not have truely signaled the end of the War. That i do believe was the surrender of the army of Northern VA only.The true surrender would have had to be a signature of J. Davis. Many believe the South is still simply being occupied by the feds illegally and unconstitutionally. Giving life to the saying "The south will rise again".
Death to the South! Save America...kill a southerner! Southerners would never make it out alive if they talk that racist garbage in Oklahoma or Nebraska. Midwesterners are bigger and stronger.
Johnny Reb lost because he couldn't stand against the industrialised North throwing it's immigrant conscripts at him. And Im a yankee saying that. What do we have now? A humongous debt from some BS wars, and I fought in iraq as an infantryman. So I know: kicking in doors, curfews, fuck that shit, fuck Bush too. Fucking lies. And Obama, ya we won in iraq thats why they are still blowing each other to pieces over there. Give me a break. All that oil and we still can't touch it because its not safe
@lazer1million it wasn't about oil so much as Iraq trying to sell their oil in euros. The dollar under attack as the world reserve currency. If it ever lost that status, it would be detrimental to our economy. Still a bunch of bullshit though right? Since when do we fight wars over money and monetary policy? I was over there 2ce myself as an Artillerymen.
@lazer1million Lowpoint of my career is when we were training with another btry over there and they have a negligent discharge of a 155. A 155. A fucking 155mm Howitzer. Hit a local policeman's house killing all inside (i.e. him and his family). the E-6 running that gun-line got an article 15 and lost a months pay.
An interesting person that people might want to look up is Jim Limber Davis. He has a very interesting story. Grant once said that if the war were over slavery then he would resign and Lee said that if the war were over slavery then he would have resigned also. Lee let his slaves go long before the war and Grant never did. The last state to make slavery illegal was NY in 1872. Lincoln's family had slaves also. His wife never let hers go either.
look the union had slaves too not just the south and raped and did the same things but because the south had more slaves it makes us look like the villians i mean if you did your home work not every slave owner treated them like slaves but like workers employers even giving them shelter and food . i mean that was stability back then and thats why some blacks even fought for the confederacy cause they knew they would have to start over if the south lost . so it wasnt all the south
9 mil vs 20 mil and u got ur ass kicked . What a joke , took u 4 years , and alot of men to win that war . for what ,now u let the niggas run the great u. s. a u are fucked
Poor black slaves wank wank . 600 thousand white men died in that war , and all u care about is some blacks . wtffffffffff
Folks can argue and fight about this all day as I see it, but JOHNNY REB got his ass kicked in the end. In fact the full circle of the Civil War has been written with a Black Man as President. This is 150 years after that most terrible and NATION DEFINING CONFLICT. People don't have any memory of how horrible that war really was, but 150 years in human history is very short indeed, almost within a human lifetime. The last living Confederate Soldier died in 1960 the year i was born.
@TheBoberton , like i said you got your asses kicked and the South lost. My Great Great Grandfather marched on you Grey Boyz back then when there was a no quarter policy held on blacks in the field, not only did he survive but i carry his name to this very day, and thank god for that, and God bless this great and wonderful nation called the UNITED STATES of AMERICA!! Not all has been good and we still have a ways to go but thank god we ain't what we was!! Peace to all who love this land!!
@TheBoberton , not true, you should look at the history of the war. Blacks fought when they could not be taken prisoner, they also fought for most of it getting paid less than the white Northern Soldier. Then they refused pay altogether until it was even, but still fought!! I'm glad he sided with those who chose to end slavery. You think I wanted to come up in my life as a slave to your ass?? And he was wrong to kill many of you to stop that?? Are you crazy?? He was right to have done that!!
@TheBoberton To be quite frank with you Bberton, you boyz should just forget about the Civil now. That was a most critical time in our history but it has passed now, you lost never to win again, never!! We should now think about our trade deficits, our poor educational system and the like because if we don't get competitve on the big picture scale we stand to lose a lot more than some ridiculous dream of re-fighting a long dead war in this land, but the loss of ours, ALL OF OURS overseas!!
@TheBoberton, Slavery as an institution is almost non-existent on the planet today, why? Because it was a good thing?? The world with its many horrific wars have been over freedom mostly my friend, maybe you should study this a bit more than dream of the days of EVIL and WRONG and look in some way to make this world better!
Bob Lee and Jeff Davis are dead, never to rise again, it shall stay that way. Let us look to make a better America than in those savage and cruel days of the 19th century.
@nagone11 Actually, slavery is unfortunately alive and well today. In Asia. And Africa. Where, by the way, it originated, with tribes enslaving other tribes after wars.
@m3i0wnu There are rumored to be about 27 million illegal slaves today by Amnesty International. Not only in those areas that you have mentioned but in EUROPE and The Middle East which just outlawed legal Slavery in 1981 in Saudi. So slavery as a business is alive, no question about it, but not as a legal entity. Many women in places like MOLDOVA are trafficked into Slavery in TURKEY and other nations. A real evil illegal practice. Also slavery was a huge part of Europe 'The SLAVS' means slaves!
@nagone11 I think the Union soldiers who fought at battles like Missionary Ridge (Union Victory) and the Third Battle of Petersburgh where the Union forces achieved a break through of Lee's breastworks and where my great (x2) grandfather was captured and the fighting was extremely vicious, would probably disagree strongly with saying the Southern soldier "got his ass kicked" in such sophomoric language. The Union forces couldn't have won w/out myriads of destitute immigrants resupplying the army
@Cionaodh57 In the end that was exactly the case, because YOU LOST! ANd you lost badly with Sherman, whom my Great Great Grandfather marched with out of the 127th out of Ohio a Black regiment from that state, burnt down that rebellious Movement to it's ultimate conclusion and Bob Lee and crew could no nothing about it. I'm proud of that I must say. Also the South was stupid to have fought that war, THE INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION was in full swing in the North, the lazy slaving Rebs of the south.....
@nagone11 Sherman was not a great general, so I would not brag about that. Sherman got his own ass kicked at Missionary Ridge, trying to assault the northern flank guarded by General Cleburne's Division. Do some reading. The fighting was brave and bitter on both sides. The Union forces simply had many more men, and Grant and Sherman did not mind getting lots of them killed in order to achieve their objectives.
@Cionaodh57 , Don't need to any reading ....my family was there son! Anyway that war is dead and over never to be fought again...thank god! And we won! Anyway aren't you proud of our black President lighting up that terrorist savage Bin Laden?? I sure am!!
@nagone11 True enough. But the point of honoring our ancestors on the southern side is not defend slavery, for most southerners didn't own slaves, but to understand the causes of the war and why both sides fought, contrasted with why _ALL_ other slave holding nations did not fight a civil war over slavery. Brazil was the last nation to abolish slavery, but did so in the late 1880s. We fought it, and its effects linger still.
@Cionaodh57 , I own property in Brasil and they ended Slavery in 1888, by an edict by the Queen. Now ....Brasil has more black people in that country than all of North America and the Islands combined. More black people speak Portugese than English, Spanish, French combined in Brasil. But since they didn't have a CIVIL WAR, the are still one step above a slave! Very few have a decent job and their education is of the worst in the Western Hemisphere. We blacks here have an AMERICAN PRESIDENT...
@Cionaodh57 We have a Black American President here. This could almost never happen in Brasil, blacks there are 60 years behind us here. So that horrific violence of that most horrible war had it's benefits. Some of those that I enjoy heartily today. We sure ain't perfect as a nation or as a people but we have survived!! We survived and have many of us who are professionals and millionaires and some Billionaires in a system that was designed to destroy us. The banal savagery of the white man...
@nagone11 You mean the banal savagery of the African black men that sold your ancestors into slavery in the first place. Savagery is not the exclusive domain of whites versus blacks or against anyone in particular. I think it is a logical stretch to conclude that the US Civil War caused the advancement of sub-Saharan peoples in the US in lieu of the immediate aftermath of that war, the reconstruction era and the enactment of the "Jim Crow" code were detriments to blacks in the South.
@Cionaodh57 , No white slavery here was extremely savage and quite evil as an Institution. I had a great aunt, My great Grnad's eldest child, who we called Aunt Big Sister, who died in 1975 at the age of 104, told us horrific stories of slavery. Though she herself was'nt a slave but her dad of course was and that is what also promted him to war. The Dutch who were here first in may respects had slavery for 20 years and then one could be freed. The white Southern owner was different.......
@nagone11 I don't deny what you say, but that was not universally true in the South. The New Testament in book of Philemon cautions slave owners to treat their slaves decently, and no doubt many tried to do that. But regarding the Dutch practice I cannot comment as I do not know. However, French practice was similar to Southern USA practice. Nothing can justify slavery in my opinion.
@Cionaodh57 ....Slavery was done all over the world, all through out history of all peoples. European, African, Asia, Middleastern, Indian. All peoples engaged in this practice but African slavery during the peroid that it hit Africa was quite terrible because that robbed Africa from engaging in the INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION that was happening during that period from 1609 to 1865. Certain countries like Haiti that smacked down the White Imperial powers like France still suffer to this very day....
@nagone11 What you say is largely true, but with this one caveat: sub-Saharan Africans practiced inter-tribal slavery long before Europeans or Muslims ever ventured into the African hinterland from the coast.
@Cionaodh57 So slavery was a part of Africa, but as the institution of slavery became more entrenched it was horrific, where in 1792 the king of Angola at that time petitioned Portugal and some of the other slaving states to stop the trade in slaves from the GOLD COAST, but those countries had gotten so strong, many African nations could not do much to stop it. Only when the Barbary Pirates started to go into Europe and raid around Denmark Sweden and some of the other areas and take WHITE GOLD
@Cionaodh57 ...Cont WHITE GOLD...who were white slaves into the Middleast at some rather large numbers did Europe start to look at what was going on and feared more of a backlash from the Muslim world with it's African component as a problem. A history that has been little spoken about in the western world to this day!!! Anyway, my history on the slave trade and all of the key components of it is quite vast and in-depth but i can tell you this...if Licoln had never been killed, Blacks......
@Cionaodh57 ......Blacks would be just about even with whites today in this culture and society. It was the Savagery and hatred of whites that have this system the way it is today. After Re-construction came a terrible backlash from Southern society mostly and really didn't ease until the 1954 Brown vs Bord of Ed decision. But horrific lynchings and murders went on almost un-abated up to and after that time for sure!!
@Cionaodh57 ..In all of it's most formidable power has not destroyed us, but has made us stronger in many ways. Also, many true Americans of white decent helped blacks succeed and to prosper in the great and broad land of ours. JOHN BROWN I will say is one of my heroes certainly above a Bob Lee for me you understand. I too have white blood in my veins as well as Indian like many African Americans, but the hatred of many whites is still quite powerful to this very day. But we continue............
@Cionaodh57 , Don't ever forget that the Civil War defined us as who we are and in many ways of who we will be! Just look at Obama dealing with racist savagery from your side about who he is?? Crazy, but that is a part of who we are as a People, as an American people. The effects of this war shall in my opinion never leave but continue to form us as we evolve. What we will ultimately evolve to is unkown, but i hope much better than what we are. We ain't perfect, but we ain't what we was!
@nagone11 The historian Shelby Foote said as much, that the US "Civil" war defines us like a war defines no other nation on this earth. We fought a war in which slavery was a major component of its causes when other nations found a way to end slavery without bloodshed. That is the component of fanaticism in our culture, and the war was a prime example of how that fanaticism manifests itself, to the point of the bayonet if necessary!
@Cionaodh57 Anyway....may god bless you and your southern roots and remember that we are ONE today eventhough that is difficult for many to still accept, the war is over and it is done....it is done, to the dismay and chagrin of some, to the elation of others. And may God bless these UNITED STATES of AMERICA and to all who inhabit this great land of ours who, have been bequeathed so much blood and tears, may we all stand strong for the future!
@nagone11 THANK YOU! It is good to be free and in the USA! I found out only this last month that my 2d great grandfather was a Confederate soldier, and that he fought under General Stonewall Jackson and Robert E. Lee in the Army of Northern Virginia. I am in awe of his tenacity as a soldier, and I was a soldier myself.
@Cionaodh57 ......... Cont..wanted to keep black labor for nothing and make billions without doing much work. When blacks up North were helping to build factories and Machines that thrust us into the 20th Century as a world power. So i'm sorry to say fuck the South and what it stood for and in many ways still stands for today. If Lincoln never got shot by that dog blacks would have even moved up further in American society and we would have never needed affirmative action and all of this!
I willingly take the confederate pledge of allegiance.i Salute The Confederate flag with reverence affection and undying devotion to the cause for which it stands for .i for sake all other allegiances and ties Deo Vindice
I willingly take the confederate pledge of allegiance.i Salute The Confederate flag with reverence affection and undying devotion to the cause for which it stands for .i for sake all other allegiances and ties Deo Vindice keep your powder dry boys
Sorry dumb fuck - the closest thing to Marxist state was the Confederacy idioit -- total government control of what people could read, write, even control of what religions could preach. Did you know that from 1820 on -- the South had government control of the news? Of books? Of what people could read or write?
No - you didnt know that.
Plus - enslaving millions. THat was the south you dumb fuck - very totalitarian, very Marxist or Nazi dumb fuck
@12FlyMe I'd like to have some Southern Men come to the hospital where you are writing this filth and living on working/mifddleclass tax dollars and whip some sense into your puny brain, and then make you work for a living
Lincoln and Sherman are marxist scum war criminals
We have no go to areas of our country where normal law abiding people cannot go to. I wish the South would have whipped your Marxist asses back to Europe
Valcar -- why not have some balls and learn real history instead? You fucks enslaved millions, said God told you to. You fucks were trying to spread slavery illegally into the rest of the USA -- and even into mexico and beyond. You fucks were child molesting, women whipping pussies -- who ran from real men, deserted en masse on your own ground. You have been crying for 150 years. Grow up.
@BullshipDetector 6% of the south owned slaves at the start of the war...so tell me what the other 94% was fighting for?... ur just an idiot that believes everything you read in them goverment fed school books
@valacar11 so you don't know that most of your Southern leaders raped their slaves -- then sold their OWN children into slavery? Fuck yes, happened every day. Almost half the slaves had mixed blood -- who do you think fucked all those slaves -- Casper the Holy Ghost? No dumb fuck - slave owners. Then they would SELL their own children INTO slavery. Did you ever think of that dumb fuck?
@BullshipDetector You are one foul mouthed lying piece of human excrement. You are a great modern representation of the marxist federal scum that salted fields, burned farms, killed livestock, murdered civilians and raped southern women, white & black.
You will be seeing your comrades Sherman, Lenin, Mao, Lincoln,Hitler, & Stalin when your life passes in the institution where you reside
Valcunt -- you need a history lesson dumb fuck. The only communist were the slavers idiot -- have everyone ELSE do the work, while they sold, raped, whipped. Infact, communist were better than the South dumb fuck. Even commies didn't rape their slaves then sell their own children from rape, into slavery.
@BullshipDetector Figures a piece of lying human genetic garbage like yourself would be a Marxist federal loving Historical revisionist lying & changing history to fit the Marxist views. You represent the Marxist Federal progressive communist socialists to a tie. Any pro-unionists would be ashamed to see your ranting & ravings of a lunatic
Maybe you get ass invaded every nite by the orderlies at the institution where you are currently kept, at the working people's expense
@BullshipDetector , whew.....Bullship, I just happend upon your argument, man you were owning this fool from sun up to sun down!! Kickin' that ass all over the net. Thanks for the laughs too, some ignorant folks are just too funny at times.
@BullshipDetector Only 5% of Southerners owned slaves most of whom gave prominent positions to their offspring oftentimes freeing them. In fact, I just finished a book called "Black Slave Owners", many emancipated slaves both mixed race and not owned slaves themselves. If a free slave could "pass" for white, they were oftentimes accepted to white socierty. My GGG-Grandfather was a "mulatto" slave owner. Slavery is bullshit, but way more complcated than what you describe.
@brianlamlf I know this is a somewhat old comment ( a month or so) But i just wanted to say, thank you :) I'm so glad there are some decent people around. Thanks.
YOu mean like Nathan Bedford Forrest? Who made over a million dollars before the war? Yeah - he was in business with Woods and Collins, who specialized in buying "excess slave children" in the border states, and force marching them, chained by the neck, to the Deep South.
Oh -by the way- sometimes a child would try to run back home - Forrest had giant mastiff dogs that would kill those children.
Even slave owners were aghast at scum like Nathan Bedford Forrest
@FreeLunchTax Yeah making kids, slaves and people from other countries to fight their battles is SO FUCKING great. Now the south isn't/wasn't perfect. But I be damned some uneducated little kid who prob hasn't even read a book on the subject tell me the so called "Great Union" were better. The north were hypocrites. their leaders ORDERED men to rape, burn , and kill little kids. and I could go on, but damn the 500 char.Now in stand of being a dumbass, next time, perhaps a good debate?
Fighting rebel - do you fucking grasp ANYTHING?? The Confederates had an EXTREME draft - -everyone from 14 to 60 (same age as the Nazis drated toward the end). But so many men REFUSED anyway to fight for the South, and so many deserted from the South, and over 100,000 white Southerners FOUGHT FOR the NORTH idiot. The South, dumb fuck -- did NOT support the Confederacy in the end.
And no dumb fuck -- no Northerner was ordered to do anything like you say retard.
Fighting - apparently you are talking about Sherman. You dumb fuck - he actually took it EASY on the South. He repreatedly OFFERED and gave them truces to move women and children out of the way. In fact, HIS MEN helped Confederates do so. You dumb fucks have been fed a line of shit.
How did the SOUTH treat those who rebelled against IT? Easy. They burned them to death.
NO Sherman's march as it is called is not what I'm talking about. There were reports of rapes and whatnot in that march, but it was in a small # and not ordered.(I believe he didn't even order the burning of charleston,sc either if I'm not mistaken.) You can believe what you believe, and I'll believe what i believe. In the end, war is Horrible.Good men on both sides died, when it could have been talked over.
Fighting -- Lee ordered the burning of Richmond -- Hood ordered the burning of Atalanta.
It could have been TALKED OVER? Yes dumb fuck -- if the Nazi like South not used violence to SPREAD their slavery. But talking against slavery was illegal in the South dumb fuck. Since you know nothing of the history of the South from 1820-1860, you have no fucking idea how stupid "it could have been talked over " is I will send you something
@nagone11 not all of Chilean ofcourse, but I can understen what is to love traditions and land, I love my onws ones, and for me the southern people is like me they loves theyr land and heritage, FOR ME IS AWESOME, because in the modern world that is shit, always I´ll feel as my brother to the souther people because, like me, those peolple prefer to die before see theyr flag under a boot.
@hukdhs , I know something of Chile and it seems to me the Racist and Neo-Nazi movement with racial intolerace is growing a lot there. Even though most of you folks are brown in color but embrace a very ugly ideology. I say you know nothing of the Southern and Northern conflict in this country. That war defined us a country, quite a bit different than your history in Chile with people like Pinochet and the other type NAZI folk that got deposed! En este pais hay una bandiera solomente ahora !!
Oh, may our Stars and Stripes still wave Forever o'er the free and brave, Right away, come away, right away, come away. And let our motto ever be -- "For Union and for Liberty!" Right away, come away, right away, come away. And we'll all go down to Dixie. Away, away, Each Dixie boy must understand That he must mind his Uncle Sam, Away, away, And we'll all go down to Dixie. Away, away, And we'll all go down to Dixie.
I wish I was in Baltimore, I'd make Secession traitors roar, Right away, come away, right away, come away. We'll put the traitors all to rout. I'll bet my boots we'll whip them out, Right away, come away, right away, come away. Then they'll wish they were in Dixie, Away, away, Each Dixie boy must understand That he must mind his Uncle Sam, Away, away, And we'll all go down to Dixie. Away, away, And we'll all go down to Dixie.
Away down South in the land of traitors, Rattlesnakes and alligators, Right away, come away, right away, come away. Where cotton's king and men are chattels, Union boys will win the battles, Right away, come away, right away, come away. Then we'll all go down to Dixie, Away, away, Each Dixie boy must understand That he must mind his Uncle Sam, Away, away, And we'll all go down to Dixie. Away, away, And we'll all go down to Dixie.
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Away down South in the land of traitors, Rattlesnakes and alligators, Right away, come away, right away, come away. Where cotton's king and men are chattels, Union boys will win the battles, Right away, come away, right away, come away. Then we'll all go down to Dixie, Away, away, Each Dixie boy must understand That he must mind his Uncle Sam, Away, away, And we'll all go down to Dixie. Away, away, And we'll all go down to Dixie.
Very well said by a product of the public education system. You are a posterboard for it's representation. Complete inability to think for one'e self. Someone who thinks that those textbooks he read in school was "accurate history", LOLOLOL.
When you were passed from grade to grade, did you ever manage to learn to read?
I love people whose only learning is by what morons tell them, not by searching truth.
You don't even know me, or anything about me, & I'm not gonna waste the time telling you because you're not worth the time. I will say I am a life long Civil War buff, & have read more then school books on the topic.
So you judge people before even knowing them, & you think anyone who doesn't share your opinion is a moron? I guess we know how *YOU* think....so who are you to judge anyone?
Too bad the rest of the south wasn't good christian men/Women. Slavery is against all principles of Christian doctrine as well as god's. Lee fought for the South so you call that being a good christian man. I don't think god would agree with You. Lee had slaves left to him by his father in law with instruction to free them within 5 yrs. He didn't he kept them longer because he was in financial trouble. he finally kicked them out with no education and no means of looking after themselves.
68624 -- common myth. Lee didnt have to obey shit --so he didnt. He had ownership -- and the owner decidess to let them go .
The will said let them go immediately - but Lee had to create an estate - aka get rich first. He kept the slaves AGAINST the will.
He kept them as long as he could, sold their babies, whipped them, etc. To say he was anti slavery is like saying Dick Cheney was against invading Iraq
Ruger nonsense dumb fuck - that's what they told your dumb ass.
Lee had over 200 slaves -- whipped them, sold their chldren, and justified slavery by saying they slaves were better off as slaves, and that God knew and intended them to be slaves.
We have testimony from slaves he whipped dumb fuck. Girls he stripped naked and whipped for running away -- as he stood by and screaming to hit them harder.
FilmCriticOne your on here causing trouble again, you should go back to buttsniffing, since you are so good at it
Whenever i hear someone use the old communist smear of "Nazi" then I know I am dealing with a Bolshevik, or at least a depraved individual who is anti-normal which you most certainly are
You have been owned on every channel I have ever seen you & usually revert to the sock, jack & spam method when someone bests you which is usually always
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Oh -- lets see the heroes of the Nazis next.
Here is a clue - all these "heroes" of the South had slaves, or their families did. They got rich selling the children of slaves, working slaves, whipping slaves, beating t he shit out of slaves.
They were punks, and they got their asses kicked. If there is a hell, they are burning there now.
Jimmyeatworld you don't see a problem with a black presadent well what about this pile of shit you like how he's doing cause I'll tell you what I damn well dont
I wish the south had won. Then we wouldn't have tje socialist (turning) communist government we have now. BTW, the origins of the war were unfair tarrifs the north imposed. Lincoln himself said" if we can win by freeing some slave, I would do it. If we win by freeing all the slaves I would do it. If we won by freeing no slaves I would do it. I live in the North but greatly admire the South.
A Not so well known fact is that the American Civil War was the first successful Marxist revolution of the 19th century Lincoln&Marx were penpals and many of the infamous Marxist 1848 revolutionaries such as Union General Fritz Sigel&Carl Shurz who had influence on Lincoln served the Union
A Bolshevik/Marxist strategy is to promote religious/class/ethnic strife to break down resistance&invoke Bolshevik change
Sound familiar with the massive immigration invasion which has changed America?
Well now I have heard everything Lincoln was a Marxist. God you are lucky he didn't turn America into a Communist country. ROFL And if it wasn't for immigration the U.S.A. would not be what it is today. What's killing it right now is greed, Corporate and financial greed along with their lobbyists who corrupt Government representatives.
Well immigration has and is being used as a weapon. We have corporate funded marxist racist revolutions via illegal & legal immigration. Some corporate billionaires decided that obliterating borders will increase profits
After the unsucessful 1848 revolutions, they flocked to join the North for the War Between the States to assist them in creating a large centralized government which they got.
What immigrants are you talking about buddy because I believe we are all descendants from immigrates right. And it was your ancestors who were descendants from immigrants that decided to have a central government after the Revolutionary war. As far as I know except for the first nations aboriginals we are all immigrants or descendants from immigrants.
Valcar dumb fuck -- the only Marxist were the slavers dumb fuck - Lee, Davis, Yancey, STonewall Jackson. These fuckers were all marxist -- enslave others, no free press, no free speech. Learn real history.
@FreeLunchTax You learn real history RPHB's and all your other insane idiotic sock accounts. The American Civil War was the first successful Marxist revolution of the 19th century. Got that dumb f--k?
How's Nurse Ratchet treating you in the Cuckoo's Nest Mark?
Valcar wrong idiot. The Confederates were Nazi like scum who enslaved millions, raped millions, used terror and threats to try to spread slavery even further.
Lee was a slave whipping lunatic, he would have girls tortured, and scream at them WHILE they were being tortured. He regularly sold children and infants when he needed cash. This is your LEADER. Davis was a sociopath. Both men were personal cowards. Davis and Lee are both metaphors for the scum south.
@BullshipDetector Your wrong RPHBS. Karl Marx was pals with Lincoln and numerous Marxists from the failed 48 risings in Europe flocked to join the Union Marxists so they could slaughter and destroy the South. Sherman is sharing the heat with his pals Lincoln, Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin, & Hitler
Valcar I wish they had flocked to USE to slaughter the Scum Sucking pig Confederates. Sherman SHOULD have kicked ass, and burned you fucks to death, like you burned slaves to death who fought back. Got that retard? Lincoln SHOULD have hung your leaders up and set them on fire. Got that retard? The problem with Lincoln and Sherman, they were far too gentle with the scum sucking slavers, like Davis, Lee, Yancey, Toombs. Clear enough retard?
@12FlyMe The cornerstone of evil Marxism is centralized power.
Now what those marxist scum did to the South was war crimes. Your heroes Marx, Sherman, Lincoln, Engels, Stalin, Hitler, Mao, & Lenin should be all together roasting for eternity.
I started out trying to knock some sense into your alt account FLT and ended up with you
I suggest you go to the nearest wax museum and try sucking farts out of your marxist scum idols cornholes
Valcar centralize your ass The Confederacy was centralize tyranny idiot Each state was a hell hole of whipping, rape, selling your own children from rape - you fucks were WAY more evil than Nazis Even the Nazis didnt rape their slaves, then sell their OWN children into slaver, or rape their OWN children after you raped the mother/ SIck fucks
@dao3rd i know this is a VERY old post. but still, its very hard to find someone who grew up in one place to admire another. Because each place is taught to think their state or country is better then others. (at least this seems to be the case for me). i've been up north quite a few times and each time i get judged as "racist" because i wear a confederate flag proudly. Its good to see some people know what the south is about. ty Dao, you put faith in people again :)
States' rights was correct but was misused to support slavery and the control of land owners who exploited black and white after the war. Nazi Germany adopted a sovereign debt free monetary system that freed them from the control of the international banking cartel, achieved full employment in two years, rebuilt their nation's infrastructure and then squandered it on a unholy war of conquest. We still desperately need states' rights and a debt free publicly controlled monetary system.
most southern generals gave up there slaves before the civ war started, most generals from the north waited till lincoin himself told them to give up there slaves.
Scum like Lee "freed" some slaves AFTER they worked their asses off for free for 40-50 years. Then Lee "gave them their freedom" -- in other words, kicked them out cause he couldnt sell them, and they were of no use to him.
Confederate soldiers dont get enough respect. They fought a hell of alot harder than the union soldiers. Yet they look at them like they did some thing wrong but they didnt. If the south would have won we would not have many problems that we have now. And we sure the hell would not have a black president. I would love to see the day that the south would rise again but honestly i dont think I will. I will never lose hope though. The thing that gets me the most is that they keep wanting more
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If the South would have won, we would have become a backward, illiterate nation, run by slave-owning elitists and televangelist preachers, with the vast majority of Americans poor and uneducated. No thanks.
Thank you for posting what you did, and as you mentioned, it seem Confederate soldiers always get a bad rap so to speak, they are were and still are in a sense looked down upon-they had more heart, more fight and were braver than any soldier...."The South will Rise Again".
Hey dumb-dumb. The tyranny was from the union. Are you that ignorant of history? The South stood for self determination and the Constitution. Abe Lincoln was the first tyrant to stomp all over the constitution and he got what he deserved. As he was shot in the head, DEATH TO TYRANTS was the call. Go study a book before shooting your mouth off.
this is to all my fellow southerners ,that may drop and watch this great,how's bout we build a time machine and go back to 1861 and help our johnny rebs of old right a horrible, the wrong side won the damn war,and thats the bottomline ,I dont care if im too emotional
The south stood for what the country was founded upon. Self determination. Its not just southerners (although i was raised in GA) its bigger than location. Its about freedom from an oppresive Gov. WE still fight this fight. We are about to have a second fight with the Gov when they implement martial law. Get your guns ready, youll have your chance.
im ready for a fight,this country is almost like FREDO in Godfather 2,almost dead to me.WE THE PEOPLE ,must fight for something more than freedom, like the survival of our human species, thats really is at stake ,if we dont resist the New World Order
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"Self-determination"?? LOL! And yet the South stood for slavery and the owning of other human beings, and wanted to spread slavery westward. There's nothing more oppressive than slavey, and yet the South supported it. The North wanted to abolish it. If anyone stood for REAL self-determination and was against oppressive government, it was the North. Not the South.
No, but the North--more specifically, Lincoln and his abolitionist supporters--DID intend to stop the spread of slavery westward, and hoped it would die a natural death in the South. One of Lincoln's core base of support came from the abolitionist movement.
The Emancipation Proclamation didnt apply to slaves in the states that remained within the Union. So it didnt really free the slaves. It had little immediate effect on slaves in the Confederacy, of course, since they were beyond Lincolns reach. Lincoln had freed the slaves he couldnt help, while doing nothing for the slaves he could have helped. POLITICS, A way to win the war.
And as far as the Spread of slavery westward you claim too much. A huge part of the reason was simply economic as well. The fact that competition would be unfair, North Vs South as far as farming. This has nothing to do with "caring" about slaves. It has to do with worry about themselves and thier ability to compete.
I really think you need to educate yourself a little better.
This was was NOT just about slavery~ and like mentioned, make no mistake the North had not wanted to abolish slavery for any other reason the votes, it WAS NOT because Lincoln felt "sorry"....Read Lincoln Little White Lie, that will explain it a lot better.
Beautiful, good work. God bless Dixie - like the valley of dry bones in Ezekiel Ch. 37, they will stand up and come back to life! The South IS rising...
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THOSE WHO DEFEND THE INVASION,
ALWAYS USE THE SAME OLE TIRED
CARDS "RACISM" & "SLAVERY"
BUT THOSE WHO UNDERSTAND, KNOW
IT WAS ABOUT DEFENDING YOUR OWN
HOME AGAINST AN INVASION & TYRANNY !
YES FOLKS "SAINT" ABRAHAM LINCOLN
WAS A TYRANT !
JOHNNYFREEDOMdaREBEL 3 weeks ago
Whers jeb stuart hes a southern hero hes a major general that lead lee's cavalry
Stuart4791 5 months ago 3
If Britian would of won the Rev War it would of been about Slavery.
mollymu1 5 months ago
Death is more acceptable then communism!!!
Partyffs 6 months ago
Surrender means that the history of this heroic struggle will be written by the enemy; that our youth will be trained by Northern school teachers; will learn from Northern school books their version of the War; will be impressed by all the influences of history and education to regard our gallant dead as traitors, and our maimed veterans as fit subjects for derision. -General Pat Cleburne, CSA
BuiltFordTough78 8 months ago 4
VALCAR YOU NEED A HISTORY LESSON YOU BRAIN DEAD FUCK. THE CIVIL WAR WASNT ABOUT SLAVERY ONLY 3% OF THE SOUTH HAD SLAVES. THE SOUTH WAS BEING TAX TO DEATH SO THE LEFT THE UNION AND THE ONLY WAY THE NORTH COULD GET THE TAXS WAS BY FORCE SO FUCK HEAD LINCOLN PAINTED A PICTURE LIKE IT WAS ABOUT SLAVERY FK THE NORTH HAD SLAVES
ravenwings100 8 months ago
In all honesty. A simple Generals signitaure would not have truely signaled the end of the War. That i do believe was the surrender of the army of Northern VA only.The true surrender would have had to be a signature of J. Davis. Many believe the South is still simply being occupied by the feds illegally and unconstitutionally. Giving life to the saying "The south will rise again".
Nebraskapatriot1 9 months ago 3
Death to the South! Save America...kill a southerner! Southerners would never make it out alive if they talk that racist garbage in Oklahoma or Nebraska. Midwesterners are bigger and stronger.
edelweissnpa 10 months ago
there is a lot of talk, I have to admit, but the fight is the fight.And Yeah! It never ends. Respect each other.
T:Essky
TheEssky 10 months ago
Johnny Reb lost because he couldn't stand against the industrialised North throwing it's immigrant conscripts at him. And Im a yankee saying that. What do we have now? A humongous debt from some BS wars, and I fought in iraq as an infantryman. So I know: kicking in doors, curfews, fuck that shit, fuck Bush too. Fucking lies. And Obama, ya we won in iraq thats why they are still blowing each other to pieces over there. Give me a break. All that oil and we still can't touch it because its not safe
lazer1million 1 year ago 11
@lazer1million it wasn't about oil so much as Iraq trying to sell their oil in euros. The dollar under attack as the world reserve currency. If it ever lost that status, it would be detrimental to our economy. Still a bunch of bullshit though right? Since when do we fight wars over money and monetary policy? I was over there 2ce myself as an Artillerymen.
haccduder 5 months ago
@lazer1million Lowpoint of my career is when we were training with another btry over there and they have a negligent discharge of a 155. A 155. A fucking 155mm Howitzer. Hit a local policeman's house killing all inside (i.e. him and his family). the E-6 running that gun-line got an article 15 and lost a months pay.
haccduder 5 months ago
Very good this performance of south's Heroes,
Boys don't surrender : Freedom from oppressive government.
Deo Vindice.
TheSTONEWALL1956 1 year ago
An interesting person that people might want to look up is Jim Limber Davis. He has a very interesting story. Grant once said that if the war were over slavery then he would resign and Lee said that if the war were over slavery then he would have resigned also. Lee let his slaves go long before the war and Grant never did. The last state to make slavery illegal was NY in 1872. Lincoln's family had slaves also. His wife never let hers go either.
billyslo87 1 year ago
look the union had slaves too not just the south and raped and did the same things but because the south had more slaves it makes us look like the villians i mean if you did your home work not every slave owner treated them like slaves but like workers employers even giving them shelter and food . i mean that was stability back then and thats why some blacks even fought for the confederacy cause they knew they would have to start over if the south lost . so it wasnt all the south
dstncowles 1 year ago
9 mil vs 20 mil and u got ur ass kicked . What a joke , took u 4 years , and alot of men to win that war . for what ,now u let the niggas run the great u. s. a u are fucked
Poor black slaves wank wank . 600 thousand white men died in that war , and all u care about is some blacks . wtffffffffff
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RonPaulHatesBlacks 1 year ago
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Folks can argue and fight about this all day as I see it, but JOHNNY REB got his ass kicked in the end. In fact the full circle of the Civil War has been written with a Black Man as President. This is 150 years after that most terrible and NATION DEFINING CONFLICT. People don't have any memory of how horrible that war really was, but 150 years in human history is very short indeed, almost within a human lifetime. The last living Confederate Soldier died in 1960 the year i was born.
nagone11 1 year ago 5
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@nagone11
Got his ass kicked? You mean like the yanks at Chancellorsville? Or the yankees at Mannassass?
Funny, we got "our asses kicked" when we were outnumbered 2 to 1, but in the battles where we won, the yankees think that it was nothing.
TheBoberton 1 year ago
@TheBoberton , like i said you got your asses kicked and the South lost. My Great Great Grandfather marched on you Grey Boyz back then when there was a no quarter policy held on blacks in the field, not only did he survive but i carry his name to this very day, and thank god for that, and God bless this great and wonderful nation called the UNITED STATES of AMERICA!! Not all has been good and we still have a ways to go but thank god we ain't what we was!! Peace to all who love this land!!
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@nagone11
So your great great grandfather sided with the tyrants? Great.
"when there was a no quarter policy held on blacks in the field"
There was a no quarter policy held on anyone fighting on the field.
TheBoberton 1 year ago
@TheBoberton , not true, you should look at the history of the war. Blacks fought when they could not be taken prisoner, they also fought for most of it getting paid less than the white Northern Soldier. Then they refused pay altogether until it was even, but still fought!! I'm glad he sided with those who chose to end slavery. You think I wanted to come up in my life as a slave to your ass?? And he was wrong to kill many of you to stop that?? Are you crazy?? He was right to have done that!!
nagone11 1 year ago
@TheBoberton To be quite frank with you Bberton, you boyz should just forget about the Civil now. That was a most critical time in our history but it has passed now, you lost never to win again, never!! We should now think about our trade deficits, our poor educational system and the like because if we don't get competitve on the big picture scale we stand to lose a lot more than some ridiculous dream of re-fighting a long dead war in this land, but the loss of ours, ALL OF OURS overseas!!
nagone11 1 year ago
@TheBoberton, Slavery as an institution is almost non-existent on the planet today, why? Because it was a good thing?? The world with its many horrific wars have been over freedom mostly my friend, maybe you should study this a bit more than dream of the days of EVIL and WRONG and look in some way to make this world better!
Bob Lee and Jeff Davis are dead, never to rise again, it shall stay that way. Let us look to make a better America than in those savage and cruel days of the 19th century.
nagone11 1 year ago
@nagone11 Actually, slavery is unfortunately alive and well today. In Asia. And Africa. Where, by the way, it originated, with tribes enslaving other tribes after wars.
m3i0wnu 9 months ago
@m3i0wnu There are rumored to be about 27 million illegal slaves today by Amnesty International. Not only in those areas that you have mentioned but in EUROPE and The Middle East which just outlawed legal Slavery in 1981 in Saudi. So slavery as a business is alive, no question about it, but not as a legal entity. Many women in places like MOLDOVA are trafficked into Slavery in TURKEY and other nations. A real evil illegal practice. Also slavery was a huge part of Europe 'The SLAVS' means slaves!
nagone11 9 months ago
@nagone11 I think the Union soldiers who fought at battles like Missionary Ridge (Union Victory) and the Third Battle of Petersburgh where the Union forces achieved a break through of Lee's breastworks and where my great (x2) grandfather was captured and the fighting was extremely vicious, would probably disagree strongly with saying the Southern soldier "got his ass kicked" in such sophomoric language. The Union forces couldn't have won w/out myriads of destitute immigrants resupplying the army
Cionaodh57 9 months ago
@Cionaodh57 In the end that was exactly the case, because YOU LOST! ANd you lost badly with Sherman, whom my Great Great Grandfather marched with out of the 127th out of Ohio a Black regiment from that state, burnt down that rebellious Movement to it's ultimate conclusion and Bob Lee and crew could no nothing about it. I'm proud of that I must say. Also the South was stupid to have fought that war, THE INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION was in full swing in the North, the lazy slaving Rebs of the south.....
nagone11 9 months ago
@nagone11 Sherman was not a great general, so I would not brag about that. Sherman got his own ass kicked at Missionary Ridge, trying to assault the northern flank guarded by General Cleburne's Division. Do some reading. The fighting was brave and bitter on both sides. The Union forces simply had many more men, and Grant and Sherman did not mind getting lots of them killed in order to achieve their objectives.
Cionaodh57 9 months ago
@Cionaodh57 , Don't need to any reading ....my family was there son! Anyway that war is dead and over never to be fought again...thank god! And we won! Anyway aren't you proud of our black President lighting up that terrorist savage Bin Laden?? I sure am!!
nagone11 9 months ago
@nagone11 True enough. But the point of honoring our ancestors on the southern side is not defend slavery, for most southerners didn't own slaves, but to understand the causes of the war and why both sides fought, contrasted with why _ALL_ other slave holding nations did not fight a civil war over slavery. Brazil was the last nation to abolish slavery, but did so in the late 1880s. We fought it, and its effects linger still.
Cionaodh57 9 months ago
@Cionaodh57 , I own property in Brasil and they ended Slavery in 1888, by an edict by the Queen. Now ....Brasil has more black people in that country than all of North America and the Islands combined. More black people speak Portugese than English, Spanish, French combined in Brasil. But since they didn't have a CIVIL WAR, the are still one step above a slave! Very few have a decent job and their education is of the worst in the Western Hemisphere. We blacks here have an AMERICAN PRESIDENT...
nagone11 9 months ago
@Cionaodh57 We have a Black American President here. This could almost never happen in Brasil, blacks there are 60 years behind us here. So that horrific violence of that most horrible war had it's benefits. Some of those that I enjoy heartily today. We sure ain't perfect as a nation or as a people but we have survived!! We survived and have many of us who are professionals and millionaires and some Billionaires in a system that was designed to destroy us. The banal savagery of the white man...
nagone11 9 months ago
@nagone11 You mean the banal savagery of the African black men that sold your ancestors into slavery in the first place. Savagery is not the exclusive domain of whites versus blacks or against anyone in particular. I think it is a logical stretch to conclude that the US Civil War caused the advancement of sub-Saharan peoples in the US in lieu of the immediate aftermath of that war, the reconstruction era and the enactment of the "Jim Crow" code were detriments to blacks in the South.
Cionaodh57 9 months ago
@Cionaodh57 , No white slavery here was extremely savage and quite evil as an Institution. I had a great aunt, My great Grnad's eldest child, who we called Aunt Big Sister, who died in 1975 at the age of 104, told us horrific stories of slavery. Though she herself was'nt a slave but her dad of course was and that is what also promted him to war. The Dutch who were here first in may respects had slavery for 20 years and then one could be freed. The white Southern owner was different.......
nagone11 9 months ago
@nagone11 I don't deny what you say, but that was not universally true in the South. The New Testament in book of Philemon cautions slave owners to treat their slaves decently, and no doubt many tried to do that. But regarding the Dutch practice I cannot comment as I do not know. However, French practice was similar to Southern USA practice. Nothing can justify slavery in my opinion.
Cionaodh57 9 months ago
@Cionaodh57 ....Slavery was done all over the world, all through out history of all peoples. European, African, Asia, Middleastern, Indian. All peoples engaged in this practice but African slavery during the peroid that it hit Africa was quite terrible because that robbed Africa from engaging in the INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION that was happening during that period from 1609 to 1865. Certain countries like Haiti that smacked down the White Imperial powers like France still suffer to this very day....
nagone11 9 months ago
@nagone11 Quite true.
Cionaodh57 9 months ago
@nagone11 What you say is largely true, but with this one caveat: sub-Saharan Africans practiced inter-tribal slavery long before Europeans or Muslims ever ventured into the African hinterland from the coast.
Cionaodh57 9 months ago
@Cionaodh57 So slavery was a part of Africa, but as the institution of slavery became more entrenched it was horrific, where in 1792 the king of Angola at that time petitioned Portugal and some of the other slaving states to stop the trade in slaves from the GOLD COAST, but those countries had gotten so strong, many African nations could not do much to stop it. Only when the Barbary Pirates started to go into Europe and raid around Denmark Sweden and some of the other areas and take WHITE GOLD
nagone11 9 months ago
@nagone11 True again. There was a town on the coast of Ireland that was raided and many of that town's citizens taken for slaves.
Cionaodh57 9 months ago
@Cionaodh57 ...Cont WHITE GOLD...who were white slaves into the Middleast at some rather large numbers did Europe start to look at what was going on and feared more of a backlash from the Muslim world with it's African component as a problem. A history that has been little spoken about in the western world to this day!!! Anyway, my history on the slave trade and all of the key components of it is quite vast and in-depth but i can tell you this...if Licoln had never been killed, Blacks......
nagone11 9 months ago
@Cionaodh57 ......Blacks would be just about even with whites today in this culture and society. It was the Savagery and hatred of whites that have this system the way it is today. After Re-construction came a terrible backlash from Southern society mostly and really didn't ease until the 1954 Brown vs Bord of Ed decision. But horrific lynchings and murders went on almost un-abated up to and after that time for sure!!
nagone11 9 months ago
@Cionaodh57 ..In all of it's most formidable power has not destroyed us, but has made us stronger in many ways. Also, many true Americans of white decent helped blacks succeed and to prosper in the great and broad land of ours. JOHN BROWN I will say is one of my heroes certainly above a Bob Lee for me you understand. I too have white blood in my veins as well as Indian like many African Americans, but the hatred of many whites is still quite powerful to this very day. But we continue............
nagone11 9 months ago
@nagone11 what you say is true in this posting.
Cionaodh57 9 months ago
@Cionaodh57 , Don't ever forget that the Civil War defined us as who we are and in many ways of who we will be! Just look at Obama dealing with racist savagery from your side about who he is?? Crazy, but that is a part of who we are as a People, as an American people. The effects of this war shall in my opinion never leave but continue to form us as we evolve. What we will ultimately evolve to is unkown, but i hope much better than what we are. We ain't perfect, but we ain't what we was!
nagone11 9 months ago
@nagone11 The historian Shelby Foote said as much, that the US "Civil" war defines us like a war defines no other nation on this earth. We fought a war in which slavery was a major component of its causes when other nations found a way to end slavery without bloodshed. That is the component of fanaticism in our culture, and the war was a prime example of how that fanaticism manifests itself, to the point of the bayonet if necessary!
Cionaodh57 9 months ago
@Cionaodh57 Anyway....may god bless you and your southern roots and remember that we are ONE today eventhough that is difficult for many to still accept, the war is over and it is done....it is done, to the dismay and chagrin of some, to the elation of others. And may God bless these UNITED STATES of AMERICA and to all who inhabit this great land of ours who, have been bequeathed so much blood and tears, may we all stand strong for the future!
nagone11 9 months ago
@nagone11 THANK YOU! It is good to be free and in the USA! I found out only this last month that my 2d great grandfather was a Confederate soldier, and that he fought under General Stonewall Jackson and Robert E. Lee in the Army of Northern Virginia. I am in awe of his tenacity as a soldier, and I was a soldier myself.
Cionaodh57 9 months ago
@Cionaodh57 ......... Cont..wanted to keep black labor for nothing and make billions without doing much work. When blacks up North were helping to build factories and Machines that thrust us into the 20th Century as a world power. So i'm sorry to say fuck the South and what it stood for and in many ways still stands for today. If Lincoln never got shot by that dog blacks would have even moved up further in American society and we would have never needed affirmative action and all of this!
nagone11 9 months ago
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I willingly take the confederate pledge of allegiance.i Salute The Confederate flag with reverence affection and undying devotion to the cause for which it stands for .i for sake all other allegiances and ties Deo Vindice
reb198 1 year ago
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I willingly take the confederate pledge of allegiance.i Salute The Confederate flag with reverence affection and undying devotion to the cause for which it stands for .i for sake all other allegiances and ties Deo Vindice keep your powder dry boys
reb198 1 year ago
Sorry dumb fuck - the closest thing to Marxist state was the Confederacy idioit -- total government control of what people could read, write, even control of what religions could preach. Did you know that from 1820 on -- the South had government control of the news? Of books? Of what people could read or write?
No - you didnt know that.
Plus - enslaving millions. THat was the south you dumb fuck - very totalitarian, very Marxist or Nazi dumb fuck
12FlyMe 1 year ago
@12FlyMe Hitler, Marx, Lincoln, Stalin, Lenin, & Mao all murderous socialist tyrants
They are all rotting in hell
valacar11 1 year ago
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@12FlyMe I'd like to have some Southern Men come to the hospital where you are writing this filth and living on working/mifddleclass tax dollars and whip some sense into your puny brain, and then make you work for a living
Lincoln and Sherman are marxist scum war criminals
We have no go to areas of our country where normal law abiding people cannot go to. I wish the South would have whipped your Marxist asses back to Europe
valacar11 1 year ago
Valcar -- why not have some balls and learn real history instead? You fucks enslaved millions, said God told you to. You fucks were trying to spread slavery illegally into the rest of the USA -- and even into mexico and beyond. You fucks were child molesting, women whipping pussies -- who ran from real men, deserted en masse on your own ground. You have been crying for 150 years. Grow up.
BullshipDetector 1 year ago 2
@BullshipDetector 6% of the south owned slaves at the start of the war...so tell me what the other 94% was fighting for?... ur just an idiot that believes everything you read in them goverment fed school books
BuiltFordTough78 8 months ago 6
@valacar11 so you don't know that most of your Southern leaders raped their slaves -- then sold their OWN children into slavery? Fuck yes, happened every day. Almost half the slaves had mixed blood -- who do you think fucked all those slaves -- Casper the Holy Ghost? No dumb fuck - slave owners. Then they would SELL their own children INTO slavery. Did you ever think of that dumb fuck?
BullshipDetector 1 year ago 2
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@BullshipDetector You are one foul mouthed lying piece of human excrement. You are a great modern representation of the marxist federal scum that salted fields, burned farms, killed livestock, murdered civilians and raped southern women, white & black.
You will be seeing your comrades Sherman, Lenin, Mao, Lincoln,Hitler, & Stalin when your life passes in the institution where you reside
valacar11 1 year ago
Valcunt -- you need a history lesson dumb fuck. The only communist were the slavers idiot -- have everyone ELSE do the work, while they sold, raped, whipped. Infact, communist were better than the South dumb fuck. Even commies didn't rape their slaves then sell their own children from rape, into slavery.
BullshipDetector 1 year ago 2
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@BullshipDetector Figures a piece of lying human genetic garbage like yourself would be a Marxist federal loving Historical revisionist lying & changing history to fit the Marxist views. You represent the Marxist Federal progressive communist socialists to a tie. Any pro-unionists would be ashamed to see your ranting & ravings of a lunatic
Maybe you get ass invaded every nite by the orderlies at the institution where you are currently kept, at the working people's expense
valacar11 1 year ago
@BullshipDetector , whew.....Bullship, I just happend upon your argument, man you were owning this fool from sun up to sun down!! Kickin' that ass all over the net. Thanks for the laughs too, some ignorant folks are just too funny at times.
nagone11 1 year ago
@BullshipDetector Only 5% of Southerners owned slaves most of whom gave prominent positions to their offspring oftentimes freeing them. In fact, I just finished a book called "Black Slave Owners", many emancipated slaves both mixed race and not owned slaves themselves. If a free slave could "pass" for white, they were oftentimes accepted to white socierty. My GGG-Grandfather was a "mulatto" slave owner. Slavery is bullshit, but way more complcated than what you describe.
huffdawgs8 6 months ago
Nathaniel Bedford Forest fist Imperial Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan... nice pictures of him at the beginning. White Power
RebelRousier 1 year ago
god bless dixieland
brianlamlf 1 year ago
@brianlamlf I know this is a somewhat old comment ( a month or so) But i just wanted to say, thank you :) I'm so glad there are some decent people around. Thanks.
TheFightingRebel 1 year ago
Southern Heroes?
YOu mean like Nathan Bedford Forrest? Who made over a million dollars before the war? Yeah - he was in business with Woods and Collins, who specialized in buying "excess slave children" in the border states, and force marching them, chained by the neck, to the Deep South.
Oh -by the way- sometimes a child would try to run back home - Forrest had giant mastiff dogs that would kill those children.
Even slave owners were aghast at scum like Nathan Bedford Forrest
FreeLunchTax 1 year ago
@FreeLunchTax Because the great "heroes" of the union was better right?
TheFightingRebel 1 year ago
Fighting pussy -- yes moron, the North had better leaders. Lee and Davis were both pussies. Your soldiers deserted en masse on their own ground.
Lee was a child whipping lunatic, Davis was a child rapist. Bedford Forrest got rich bying black children and force marching them to the deep south.
No kidding the North was better, dumb fuck
FreeLunchTax 1 year ago
@FreeLunchTax Yeah making kids, slaves and people from other countries to fight their battles is SO FUCKING great. Now the south isn't/wasn't perfect. But I be damned some uneducated little kid who prob hasn't even read a book on the subject tell me the so called "Great Union" were better. The north were hypocrites. their leaders ORDERED men to rape, burn , and kill little kids. and I could go on, but damn the 500 char.Now in stand of being a dumbass, next time, perhaps a good debate?
TheFightingRebel 1 year ago
Fighting rebel - do you fucking grasp ANYTHING?? The Confederates had an EXTREME draft - -everyone from 14 to 60 (same age as the Nazis drated toward the end). But so many men REFUSED anyway to fight for the South, and so many deserted from the South, and over 100,000 white Southerners FOUGHT FOR the NORTH idiot. The South, dumb fuck -- did NOT support the Confederacy in the end.
And no dumb fuck -- no Northerner was ordered to do anything like you say retard.
SouthernFriedHoney 1 year ago
Fighting - apparently you are talking about Sherman. You dumb fuck - he actually took it EASY on the South. He repreatedly OFFERED and gave them truces to move women and children out of the way. In fact, HIS MEN helped Confederates do so. You dumb fucks have been fed a line of shit.
How did the SOUTH treat those who rebelled against IT? Easy. They burned them to death.
SouthernFriedHoney 1 year ago
@SouthernFriedHoney Still with the name calling i see, very well.
NO Sherman's march as it is called is not what I'm talking about. There were reports of rapes and whatnot in that march, but it was in a small # and not ordered.(I believe he didn't even order the burning of charleston,sc either if I'm not mistaken.) You can believe what you believe, and I'll believe what i believe. In the end, war is Horrible.Good men on both sides died, when it could have been talked over.
TheFightingRebel 1 year ago
Fighting -- Lee ordered the burning of Richmond -- Hood ordered the burning of Atalanta.
It could have been TALKED OVER? Yes dumb fuck -- if the Nazi like South not used violence to SPREAD their slavery. But talking against slavery was illegal in the South dumb fuck. Since you know nothing of the history of the South from 1820-1860, you have no fucking idea how stupid "it could have been talked over " is I will send you something
BullshipDetector 1 year ago
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kimmoj9 1 year ago
Jnkjenkit olis pitäin tappaaa vastaaantullessa...
kimmoj9 1 year ago
STATES RIGHTS is what this war was over THE SOUTH WAS RIGHT AND WILL RISE AGAIN AND THIS TIME WE WIN
ENTROPHY123 2 years ago
exellent!! southern pride:: Greetings from Chile.
hukdhs 2 years ago
@hukdhs A Chilean loving Southern pride???.........
nagone11 9 months ago
@nagone11 not all of Chilean ofcourse, but I can understen what is to love traditions and land, I love my onws ones, and for me the southern people is like me they loves theyr land and heritage, FOR ME IS AWESOME, because in the modern world that is shit, always I´ll feel as my brother to the souther people because, like me, those peolple prefer to die before see theyr flag under a boot.
hukdhs 9 months ago
@hukdhs , I know something of Chile and it seems to me the Racist and Neo-Nazi movement with racial intolerace is growing a lot there. Even though most of you folks are brown in color but embrace a very ugly ideology. I say you know nothing of the Southern and Northern conflict in this country. That war defined us a country, quite a bit different than your history in Chile with people like Pinochet and the other type NAZI folk that got deposed! En este pais hay una bandiera solomente ahora !!
nagone11 9 months ago
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rascist faggot
dime1046 2 years ago
Zeeboe 2 years ago
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Zeeboe 2 years ago
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KKK
Pateretfilius 2 years ago
IT takes more then one to sig a trety its a fake
Pateretfilius 2 years ago
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Boner is not spelled "honer" you dumb white trash moron.
therogerseses 2 years ago
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Zeeboe 2 years ago
Zeeboe,
Very well said by a product of the public education system. You are a posterboard for it's representation. Complete inability to think for one'e self. Someone who thinks that those textbooks he read in school was "accurate history", LOLOLOL.
When you were passed from grade to grade, did you ever manage to learn to read?
I love people whose only learning is by what morons tell them, not by searching truth.
joh9356 2 years ago
You don't even know me, or anything about me, & I'm not gonna waste the time telling you because you're not worth the time. I will say I am a life long Civil War buff, & have read more then school books on the topic.
So you judge people before even knowing them, & you think anyone who doesn't share your opinion is a moron? I guess we know how *YOU* think....so who are you to judge anyone?
Zeeboe 2 years ago
I done told you!
AmericanWarrior1776 2 years ago 2
filmcriticone lee was not scum he a good christian man and he did not beleive in slavery
TheRugerdude 2 years ago 3
Too bad the rest of the south wasn't good christian men/Women. Slavery is against all principles of Christian doctrine as well as god's. Lee fought for the South so you call that being a good christian man. I don't think god would agree with You. Lee had slaves left to him by his father in law with instruction to free them within 5 yrs. He didn't he kept them longer because he was in financial trouble. he finally kicked them out with no education and no means of looking after themselves.
686204 2 years ago
68624 -- common myth. Lee didnt have to obey shit --so he didnt. He had ownership -- and the owner decidess to let them go .
The will said let them go immediately - but Lee had to create an estate - aka get rich first. He kept the slaves AGAINST the will.
He kept them as long as he could, sold their babies, whipped them, etc. To say he was anti slavery is like saying Dick Cheney was against invading Iraq
FilmCriticOne 2 years ago
Ruger nonsense dumb fuck - that's what they told your dumb ass.
Lee had over 200 slaves -- whipped them, sold their chldren, and justified slavery by saying they slaves were better off as slaves, and that God knew and intended them to be slaves.
We have testimony from slaves he whipped dumb fuck. Girls he stripped naked and whipped for running away -- as he stood by and screaming to hit them harder.
FilmCriticOne 2 years ago
i love the song, respect johnny rebel :)
asgorotht 2 years ago
FilmCriticOne your on here causing trouble again, you should go back to buttsniffing, since you are so good at it
Whenever i hear someone use the old communist smear of "Nazi" then I know I am dealing with a Bolshevik, or at least a depraved individual who is anti-normal which you most certainly are
You have been owned on every channel I have ever seen you & usually revert to the sock, jack & spam method when someone bests you which is usually always
Leave these nice people alone here troll
valacar11 2 years ago
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Oh -- lets see the heroes of the Nazis next.
Here is a clue - all these "heroes" of the South had slaves, or their families did. They got rich selling the children of slaves, working slaves, whipping slaves, beating t he shit out of slaves.
They were punks, and they got their asses kicked. If there is a hell, they are burning there now.
FilmCriticOne 2 years ago
eastom98fan1fan1, you said "the north killed the south" exactly what battle?
jwall1231324 2 years ago
Jimmyeatworld you don't see a problem with a black presadent well what about this pile of shit you like how he's doing cause I'll tell you what I damn well dont
1971ShawnW 2 years ago
North killed the south yah but what would happin now if we went to war can you answer that
1971ShawnW 2 years ago
I wish the south had won. Then we wouldn't have tje socialist (turning) communist government we have now. BTW, the origins of the war were unfair tarrifs the north imposed. Lincoln himself said" if we can win by freeing some slave, I would do it. If we win by freeing all the slaves I would do it. If we won by freeing no slaves I would do it. I live in the North but greatly admire the South.
dao3rd 2 years ago 4
the north killed the south
eastom98fan1fan1 2 years ago
Dao
A Not so well known fact is that the American Civil War was the first successful Marxist revolution of the 19th century Lincoln&Marx were penpals and many of the infamous Marxist 1848 revolutionaries such as Union General Fritz Sigel&Carl Shurz who had influence on Lincoln served the Union
A Bolshevik/Marxist strategy is to promote religious/class/ethnic strife to break down resistance&invoke Bolshevik change
Sound familiar with the massive immigration invasion which has changed America?
valacar11 2 years ago
Well now I have heard everything Lincoln was a Marxist. God you are lucky he didn't turn America into a Communist country. ROFL And if it wasn't for immigration the U.S.A. would not be what it is today. What's killing it right now is greed, Corporate and financial greed along with their lobbyists who corrupt Government representatives.
686204 2 years ago
Well immigration has and is being used as a weapon. We have corporate funded marxist racist revolutions via illegal & legal immigration. Some corporate billionaires decided that obliterating borders will increase profits
After the unsucessful 1848 revolutions, they flocked to join the North for the War Between the States to assist them in creating a large centralized government which they got.
You learn something new every day my friend
valacar11 2 years ago
What immigrants are you talking about buddy because I believe we are all descendants from immigrates right. And it was your ancestors who were descendants from immigrants that decided to have a central government after the Revolutionary war. As far as I know except for the first nations aboriginals we are all immigrants or descendants from immigrants.
686204 2 years ago
Hi buddy, I,m talking about the Mexica & Aztlan movements
One group wants the southwest for a new "Brown" land, the other wants the whole continent
Go to their websites or input attack on america july 4 1996 here on youtube
Depends on how far back you wannna go, they have evidence of Europeans here thousands of years ago
You learn new things everyday my friend
valacar11 2 years ago
Valcar dumb fuck -- the only Marxist were the slavers dumb fuck - Lee, Davis, Yancey, STonewall Jackson. These fuckers were all marxist -- enslave others, no free press, no free speech. Learn real history.
FreeLunchTax 1 year ago
@FreeLunchTax You learn real history RPHB's and all your other insane idiotic sock accounts. The American Civil War was the first successful Marxist revolution of the 19th century. Got that dumb f--k?
How's Nurse Ratchet treating you in the Cuckoo's Nest Mark?
valacar11 1 year ago
Valcar wrong idiot. The Confederates were Nazi like scum who enslaved millions, raped millions, used terror and threats to try to spread slavery even further.
Lee was a slave whipping lunatic, he would have girls tortured, and scream at them WHILE they were being tortured. He regularly sold children and infants when he needed cash. This is your LEADER. Davis was a sociopath. Both men were personal cowards. Davis and Lee are both metaphors for the scum south.
BullshipDetector 1 year ago
@BullshipDetector Your wrong RPHBS. Karl Marx was pals with Lincoln and numerous Marxists from the failed 48 risings in Europe flocked to join the Union Marxists so they could slaughter and destroy the South. Sherman is sharing the heat with his pals Lincoln, Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin, & Hitler
Marxism has murder over 110 million people
valacar11 1 year ago
Valcar I wish they had flocked to USE to slaughter the Scum Sucking pig Confederates. Sherman SHOULD have kicked ass, and burned you fucks to death, like you burned slaves to death who fought back. Got that retard? Lincoln SHOULD have hung your leaders up and set them on fire. Got that retard? The problem with Lincoln and Sherman, they were far too gentle with the scum sucking slavers, like Davis, Lee, Yancey, Toombs. Clear enough retard?
12FlyMe 1 year ago
@12FlyMe The cornerstone of evil Marxism is centralized power.
Now what those marxist scum did to the South was war crimes. Your heroes Marx, Sherman, Lincoln, Engels, Stalin, Hitler, Mao, & Lenin should be all together roasting for eternity.
I started out trying to knock some sense into your alt account FLT and ended up with you
I suggest you go to the nearest wax museum and try sucking farts out of your marxist scum idols cornholes
valacar11 1 year ago
Valcar centralize your ass The Confederacy was centralize tyranny idiot Each state was a hell hole of whipping, rape, selling your own children from rape - you fucks were WAY more evil than Nazis Even the Nazis didnt rape their slaves, then sell their OWN children into slaver, or rape their OWN children after you raped the mother/ SIck fucks
12FlyMe 1 year ago
@dao3rd i know this is a VERY old post. but still, its very hard to find someone who grew up in one place to admire another. Because each place is taught to think their state or country is better then others. (at least this seems to be the case for me). i've been up north quite a few times and each time i get judged as "racist" because i wear a confederate flag proudly. Its good to see some people know what the south is about. ty Dao, you put faith in people again :)
TheFightingRebel 1 year ago
Johhny Reb Johhny Reb
Good BeLees DixiE
Deo Vindice!!!!!!!
MrHotBodz 2 years ago 2
States' rights was correct but was misused to support slavery and the control of land owners who exploited black and white after the war. Nazi Germany adopted a sovereign debt free monetary system that freed them from the control of the international banking cartel, achieved full employment in two years, rebuilt their nation's infrastructure and then squandered it on a unholy war of conquest. We still desperately need states' rights and a debt free publicly controlled monetary system.
ourearthhome 3 years ago
most southern generals gave up there slaves before the civ war started, most generals from the north waited till lincoin himself told them to give up there slaves.
wrathmaster 2 years ago 4
wrath nonsense.
Scum like Lee "freed" some slaves AFTER they worked their asses off for free for 40-50 years. Then Lee "gave them their freedom" -- in other words, kicked them out cause he couldnt sell them, and they were of no use to him.
FilmCriticOne 2 years ago
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LOL your an idiot.
whitefuture82 2 years ago 3
Deo Vindice
May God Bless Dixie, And May Her Memory Never Be Forgotten
Pvt. Kevin Roberts
1st Missouri Cavalry (Dismounted) Co F
Missouri State Guard
Confederate States Army
rebelsoldier1stmocav 3 years ago 3
GOD BLESS, DIXIE!
May She Rise Up! Out of The Ashes!
Deo Vindice!
rebelstang 3 years ago 4
Southern Freedom Fighters fought for Liberty.
What did the northern aggressor send in Federal Troops for?
To enslave the South.
Today we are still fighting for our Liberty.
For the sake of our children, the Southland must be free of the Union Government of Occupation!
RightsForWhites2008 3 years ago 3
Confederate soldiers dont get enough respect. They fought a hell of alot harder than the union soldiers. Yet they look at them like they did some thing wrong but they didnt. If the south would have won we would not have many problems that we have now. And we sure the hell would not have a black president. I would love to see the day that the south would rise again but honestly i dont think I will. I will never lose hope though. The thing that gets me the most is that they keep wanting more
johnnyrebel19 3 years ago 3
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If the South would have won, we would have become a backward, illiterate nation, run by slave-owning elitists and televangelist preachers, with the vast majority of Americans poor and uneducated. No thanks.
ChrisArlingtonVA 3 years ago
I wouldn't say confederate soldiers fought harder then the union soldiers. I would say they were about even.
And I don't understand how the south winning would eliminate problems, and as for a black president I don't see the problem with that.
JimmyEatWorld55 3 years ago
Absolutely agree with your statement.
Thank you for posting what you did, and as you mentioned, it seem Confederate soldiers always get a bad rap so to speak, they are were and still are in a sense looked down upon-they had more heart, more fight and were braver than any soldier...."The South will Rise Again".
sjoara 3 years ago 4
To hell with the vile left-liberal media controlling scum!
Dixie's spirit lives FOREVER!!!!!!
ScotchIrishNY 3 years ago 2
I'm with you brother deo vindice
carter050591 3 years ago
jivevidzcomesout wow are you some kind of fucking idiot ?
"wow are they dead" WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU
they died over a centuary ago u dumb cunt
BLEEZINBABES 3 years ago
If the south rises again, we will stomp them again, preserve american culture not american tyranny.
ReformistSin 3 years ago
Hey dumb-dumb. The tyranny was from the union. Are you that ignorant of history? The South stood for self determination and the Constitution. Abe Lincoln was the first tyrant to stomp all over the constitution and he got what he deserved. As he was shot in the head, DEATH TO TYRANTS was the call. Go study a book before shooting your mouth off.
PatriotKS1975 3 years ago 3
wow, are they dead now?
jivevidzcomesout 3 years ago
no, they were middle aged men in the 1860's and are still walking around today.
LostHemingway 3 years ago 2
this is to all my fellow southerners ,that may drop and watch this great,how's bout we build a time machine and go back to 1861 and help our johnny rebs of old right a horrible, the wrong side won the damn war,and thats the bottomline ,I dont care if im too emotional
TexarkanaBraveheart 3 years ago 2
The south stood for what the country was founded upon. Self determination. Its not just southerners (although i was raised in GA) its bigger than location. Its about freedom from an oppresive Gov. WE still fight this fight. We are about to have a second fight with the Gov when they implement martial law. Get your guns ready, youll have your chance.
PatriotKS1975 3 years ago 2
im ready for a fight,this country is almost like FREDO in Godfather 2,almost dead to me.WE THE PEOPLE ,must fight for something more than freedom, like the survival of our human species, thats really is at stake ,if we dont resist the New World Order
TexarkanaBraveheart 3 years ago
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"Self-determination"?? LOL! And yet the South stood for slavery and the owning of other human beings, and wanted to spread slavery westward. There's nothing more oppressive than slavey, and yet the South supported it. The North wanted to abolish it. If anyone stood for REAL self-determination and was against oppressive government, it was the North. Not the South.
ChrisArlingtonVA 3 years ago
The north had no intention of freeing slaves. They did this simply in a last ditch effort to end and win a war. Do you study history?
PatriotKS1975 3 years ago 4
No, but the North--more specifically, Lincoln and his abolitionist supporters--DID intend to stop the spread of slavery westward, and hoped it would die a natural death in the South. One of Lincoln's core base of support came from the abolitionist movement.
ChrisArlingtonVA 3 years ago
The Emancipation Proclamation didnt apply to slaves in the states that remained within the Union. So it didnt really free the slaves. It had little immediate effect on slaves in the Confederacy, of course, since they were beyond Lincolns reach. Lincoln had freed the slaves he couldnt help, while doing nothing for the slaves he could have helped. POLITICS, A way to win the war.
PatriotKS1975 3 years ago 3
And as far as the Spread of slavery westward you claim too much. A huge part of the reason was simply economic as well. The fact that competition would be unfair, North Vs South as far as farming. This has nothing to do with "caring" about slaves. It has to do with worry about themselves and thier ability to compete.
PatriotKS1975 3 years ago 2
I really think you need to educate yourself a little better.
This was was NOT just about slavery~ and like mentioned, make no mistake the North had not wanted to abolish slavery for any other reason the votes, it WAS NOT because Lincoln felt "sorry"....Read Lincoln Little White Lie, that will explain it a lot better.
sjoara 3 years ago 3
Beautiful, good work. God bless Dixie - like the valley of dry bones in Ezekiel Ch. 37, they will stand up and come back to life! The South IS rising...
Patriot1862 3 years ago 4
dame strght man your my kind of prson.from the def of dixie ps the south will rise aging
uman184 3 years ago 3
Great song!
Greetings from Brazil!
lunga666 3 years ago
hey does anybody know John T. Melvin in the war? hes on the southern side
deerhunter276984 3 years ago
Great Video and Song.
CSAfanactic 3 years ago
Classy. Deo Vindice!
badchadrutledge 3 years ago
Good Vid Of Southern Heros!
GOD BLESS, DIXIE!
May She Rise, Again!
rebelstang 3 years ago
like the video wish they won they did in heart repect the dixie flag fought for
lookerwho 3 years ago
long live the Dixie
chokin2 3 years ago
Great song, I love J. Horton.
BorislavX 3 years ago