That video was one of the fights we had back then in the 1990's- In The Schenectady New York Area- This was before Anyone was doing MMA- There was No such thing as Mixed Martial Art's at the time. I didn't want to hurt this guy too bad- I held back a lot- still you can't take anyone too lightly when You are fighting another martial artist.
the black guy obviously did more training in actual dojos/training centers. he kept trying really fancy tae kwon do kicks that never landed, and got intimidated way too fast.
did more training IN ACTUAL DOJOS/TRAINING CENTERS. please learn to read. The white guy probably did more street fights. fighting in real matches versus a point system is completely different. i'm not saying black guy should've won, i'm saying that black guy was just very unfamiliar with the situation.
Yeah where the fuck were these guys in the original gracie tournament. Oh wait that was just to show of gracie bjj. They didn't want real mma fighters in there. There is also tons of videos from Brazil that go back to the mid 90's that are all highly skilled.
There were guys who knew jits and competently used it farther back than '96. You gotta wonder, "Why didn't the Gracies bring any of them to the first UFCs?"
black dude - impressive possum style. What do we learn here? foot sweep doesn't work when your opponent are prepare :-)...and do not go to the ground when your opponent is still STANDING :-)
That White Guy Kicked the crap outta the streetfighter Not even a match. He kept shoing the guy on the ground mercy. I'd like to see The white guy fight someone with more ability
the black dood is ju jitsu based and wants the fight on the ground (with the white dood in his gaurd) so he can go for a submission more easily. The white guy is a kickboxer and wants to stand. If the black guy tried to go for a take down in what little room he could have been able to take his opponent but he made to effort to.
Thanks for this video and posting it it was way back from 1995. Do you have any more of my old fights? I don't have any. Dustin Etan / david tanner from Schenectady
LOL LOL LOL LOL The last time i fought a guy who stayed on his arse swivelling like he sat on a traffic bollard covered in oil while getting the shit kicked out of him was when i was in.....................school!!! Fucking hell,the black guy as all those moves and belts only to sit on his arse. That made me laugh lol!!!!
the fights were from mid 1990's the black guy was a black belt in TKD and a experienced boxer and 1 yr of jiu jitsu at the time. he's an experienced street fighter undefeated in many matches. Dustin stated he would stop his jiu jitsu with just striking, there is more video of these fights. google "dustin etan" for more about the fighter in This Video. Dustin has extensive background in martial arts since the mid 70's.
boxing savate muay thai tkd wing chun full contact karate kickboxing-
look up his background. hes fighting since 1980's in abandoned buildings and the ring. you gonna use muay thai on him? riiiight! hed have destroyed you
lol do you know anything? muay thai is pretty much widely accepted by anyone who knows anything about combat sports that thai is the most effective form of striking.
the black guy is a fn wannabe he got totally pwned has no idea what he was doing just laying there and shit with plenty of opportunities to get up what a joke fighter
Do you know what jinjitsu is? the other guy didn't have expiriense in jinjitsu there for had the black guy a better chance to beat him in an element where he had most of the control.
you're the tool. You think because your class mates allow you to go the ground or clinch, you can do it any fight...i just didn't say i was any better than anyone, i am just sating you aren't better than these guys, and you'd get your ass kicked i am pretty sure. I am not the one criticisizing their video, you are douche.
i'll stand by my original statement you are the tool. and you likely wouldn't take those guys down no matter how much your classmates allow u to do so in class. i can agree you're not a better grappler than they are.
man these guys were terrible. if either one of them lasted 1 minute against anyone with real training i'd be amazed. they were both jokes. and anyone who thinks otherwise is a tool, and knows nothing about fighting
first you said anyone with "real training" now you say pro fighter, and then you think most amateurs can beat them easily. You're just a little wannabe
stupid kids come on these videos and post their assinine comments. These guys are obviously trained you nitwit "judoplayer69" You wouldnt last 30 secs let alone 1 full minute with these fighters or anyone who is brave enough to fight in those conditions. and wheres your video? you sissy wannabe! what a big Mouth punk!
i bet you only tap people out at your dumb little class, and you wouldn't drop anybody....lol at the comment "if we kept standing" ---what you think they gonna say"you wanna roll around on the ground and see if you can submit me" what a douche you are
if i felt like keeping the fight standing. id' use my standup. i am a better grappler, so i'd most likely take them down and go for a quick sub. you cannot disagree that they were terrible grapplers. and i'll stand by my original statement, anyone with "real training" and i dont mean 2 weeks. but i'd say a solid year of MMA training, or something like BJJ, and you'd tool those guys
Umm, I've fought plenty and would LOVE to fight these guys. Their Jiu Jitsu was horrible, their wrestling basically non existant except for a half ass sprawl and their striking was okay, but not good. I think I could beat either of these fighters and would love to fight them.
That fat guy fights dirty. You dont hit someone when they're down. unless they raped your wife or killed your family. no exuse. no honour. no respect from me.
So the other guy, who twice dived to the ground and stayed there, he was fighting with much more honour than the guy who gave him every fucking chance to stand again?
I dont care what others say, there is no way to really understand what does and does not work in a fight if you dont actually have real fights. Play fighting "sparring" is great, but a lot you can do while sparring is utterly stupid to do in a real fight. Go read up on ancient pankration if you want to hear about deaths.
BTW, I would of just stomped on the guys nuts, the guy was wide open a lot and the other guys foot was right there... so sue me, I know how to win a fight on the street.
Dustin Etan looked good He was lookin at the black guy sayin "what the Heck Man git up and fight" I think he felt sorry for the guy after kickin him to the ground. so they placed bets on these fights? wonder how much they got paid
Sure, they could have! I've already seen on a video from a international oficial fight a death incident and it's not nice. It is too dangerous. OK, sometimes its fun to go into the ring, just for fun and only with weak punches and kicks and with protectors, but this is too much! BTW. the black guy had no chance from the begining! Had no strenght in his punches and kicks and didn't even try to fight.
it's not so much the power of a punch or kick but it's acumen. i agree that it's run to go into the ring. but this is utter insanity. no doctors, no corner men, no real organization.
these dummys sayin these guys aint good fighters need some respect. it is known that the black guy collapsed and it is rumoured never recovered they didnt show the finishin blow to protect dustin from being charged. dustin was a world kickboxin champ and the black guy Josepha was a student of a gracie back then. this is legendary the undergound in upstate new york and few knew about it back then. i'm from upstate new york and know what i'm talkin about.
both of these guys look like proficient artists which is why this is so foolish. no doctors or medics present. no sanctions. if the man was injured permanently, it's now on both of their consciences.
black guy didnt have anything to offer in striking or submission,white fellas strikes were ok atleast he came to throw down..black guy looked like one of those guys who does amazin things inthe dojo but get him in a real fight and alot of what he does is ineffective..Both are brave to get in there..
Oh the kick lands on his eye at the start. this is before our cage fighting sport and in a dangerous room, notice the windows and glass door. they had to look out for their safety as they were beating each other down. crazy to fight like that
Excellent. Thankfully we can still get to see such fine anaimals go all out at each other in Rio.
Portlaoise50 1 year ago
That video was one of the fights we had back then in the 1990's- In The Schenectady New York Area- This was before Anyone was doing MMA- There was No such thing as Mixed Martial Art's at the time. I didn't want to hurt this guy too bad- I held back a lot- still you can't take anyone too lightly when You are fighting another martial artist.
schenectadyvideos2 1 year ago
Thats Dustin Etan Did Pro Wrestling and Boxing and Champion Kickboxer as well as many martial arts. He was taking it easy
unicyclenut 2 years ago 10
@unicyclenut yes I recognize him :-)
GMPNY 2 years ago 3
All I can say is: don't ever make Dustin mad!
batmanboyman 2 years ago 24
They are not playin, but was it it fun? Dustins like a cat with a mouse perhaps
trailsrunner 3 years ago 28
the black guy obviously did more training in actual dojos/training centers. he kept trying really fancy tae kwon do kicks that never landed, and got intimidated way too fast.
juhjuhjuhjoa 3 years ago
obviously did more training ... did you see the beginning segments? watch Dustin punch and kick that bag again
trailsrunner 3 years ago 21
did more training IN ACTUAL DOJOS/TRAINING CENTERS. please learn to read. The white guy probably did more street fights. fighting in real matches versus a point system is completely different. i'm not saying black guy should've won, i'm saying that black guy was just very unfamiliar with the situation.
juhjuhjuhjoa 3 years ago
Yeah where the fuck were these guys in the original gracie tournament. Oh wait that was just to show of gracie bjj. They didn't want real mma fighters in there. There is also tons of videos from Brazil that go back to the mid 90's that are all highly skilled.
bobdiamon 3 years ago 18
There were guys who knew jits and competently used it farther back than '96. You gotta wonder, "Why didn't the Gracies bring any of them to the first UFCs?"
ozthepowerful 3 years ago 8
Dustin was in total control and looks like he was holding back giving the guy a chance to do something.
r425z 3 years ago 12
black dude - impressive possum style. What do we learn here? foot sweep doesn't work when your opponent are prepare :-)...and do not go to the ground when your opponent is still STANDING :-)
k14michael 3 years ago 4
The White guy won. he punched his eye out. black guy stays on the ground lookin for it. end of story. ha O_o
fatness18 3 years ago 7
That White Guy Kicked the crap outta the streetfighter Not even a match. He kept shoing the guy on the ground mercy. I'd like to see The white guy fight someone with more ability
fasterratfaster 3 years ago 7
white guy is pretty aggressive...
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i say the nigga would beat the other fellow its that he just looks scary and i say the nigga is afraid of him
lvaitiekaitis 3 years ago
well maybe he needs to man up if he could beat him he would have he got a good old ass whoopin
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why< is the nigga just laying on the ground, he would kick the rednecks ass if he would stand like a man.
DadoZomb 3 years ago
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!! you wish. he'd kick your punk ass too, standing or not
vetech99 3 years ago 5
the black dood is ju jitsu based and wants the fight on the ground (with the white dood in his gaurd) so he can go for a submission more easily. The white guy is a kickboxer and wants to stand. If the black guy tried to go for a take down in what little room he could have been able to take his opponent but he made to effort to.
hy56o 3 years ago
ah, okay now i get it. ^^
DadoZomb 3 years ago
Thanks for this video and posting it it was way back from 1995. Do you have any more of my old fights? I don't have any. Dustin Etan / david tanner from Schenectady
my email is dustinetan (at) Yahoo
DustinEtan 3 years ago 3
looks like a cat playing with a mouse Dustin is dangerous
superhotcaligirl 3 years ago 4
LOL LOL LOL LOL The last time i fought a guy who stayed on his arse swivelling like he sat on a traffic bollard covered in oil while getting the shit kicked out of him was when i was in.....................school!!! Fucking hell,the black guy as all those moves and belts only to sit on his arse. That made me laugh lol!!!!
WarHawkRob 3 years ago 4
awesome kicks! hes from Schenectady!
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i would chop his leg beaing on tha floor omg i wish i was there
cuckoougotshot 3 years ago
Great fight Dave, I used to box with you down at the Y with pep
psc33 3 years ago 9
the fights were from mid 1990's the black guy was a black belt in TKD and a experienced boxer and 1 yr of jiu jitsu at the time. he's an experienced street fighter undefeated in many matches. Dustin stated he would stop his jiu jitsu with just striking, there is more video of these fights. google "dustin etan" for more about the fighter in This Video. Dustin has extensive background in martial arts since the mid 70's.
boxing savate muay thai tkd wing chun full contact karate kickboxing-
realityfight 3 years ago
from Schenectady his town dustin(tanner)
look up his background. hes fighting since 1980's in abandoned buildings and the ring. you gonna use muay thai on him? riiiight! hed have destroyed you
jj34dr4 3 years ago 3
lol do you know anything? muay thai is pretty much widely accepted by anyone who knows anything about combat sports that thai is the most effective form of striking.
JudoPlayer619 3 years ago
the black guy is a fn wannabe he got totally pwned has no idea what he was doing just laying there and shit with plenty of opportunities to get up what a joke fighter
Jammin67 3 years ago 5
Do you know what jinjitsu is? the other guy didn't have expiriense in jinjitsu there for had the black guy a better chance to beat him in an element where he had most of the control.
Plankeeee 3 years ago
jinjitsu? is that an alcoholic cocktail? the black guy was drunk from gin and layed on his back to keep from being pounded?
anyways the white guy finished him off in the end after throwing him down.
stickbunny 3 years ago 6
you're the tool. You think because your class mates allow you to go the ground or clinch, you can do it any fight...i just didn't say i was any better than anyone, i am just sating you aren't better than these guys, and you'd get your ass kicked i am pretty sure. I am not the one criticisizing their video, you are douche.
mtseevid 3 years ago 4
i'll stand by my original statement you are the tool. and you likely wouldn't take those guys down no matter how much your classmates allow u to do so in class. i can agree you're not a better grappler than they are.
mtseevid 3 years ago
man these guys were terrible. if either one of them lasted 1 minute against anyone with real training i'd be amazed. they were both jokes. and anyone who thinks otherwise is a tool, and knows nothing about fighting
JudoPlayer619 3 years ago
you're the tool...overly critical, and you think anyone with training will win any fight with untrained person...nice logic, douche
mtseevid 3 years ago
you are a moron if you really think they could hang with any pro fighter. i think most am.fighters would beat them easy too
JudoPlayer619 3 years ago
first you said anyone with "real training" now you say pro fighter, and then you think most amateurs can beat them easily. You're just a little wannabe
mtseevid 3 years ago 2
stupid kids come on these videos and post their assinine comments. These guys are obviously trained you nitwit "judoplayer69" You wouldnt last 30 secs let alone 1 full minute with these fighters or anyone who is brave enough to fight in those conditions. and wheres your video? you sissy wannabe! what a big Mouth punk!
r425z 3 years ago 2
i bet i'd tap out both of them honestly. if we kept it standing, i'd clinch and use some Muai Thai to drop them.
JudoPlayer619 3 years ago
i bet you only tap people out at your dumb little class, and you wouldn't drop anybody....lol at the comment "if we kept standing" ---what you think they gonna say"you wanna roll around on the ground and see if you can submit me" what a douche you are
mtseevid 3 years ago 2
if i felt like keeping the fight standing. id' use my standup. i am a better grappler, so i'd most likely take them down and go for a quick sub. you cannot disagree that they were terrible grapplers. and i'll stand by my original statement, anyone with "real training" and i dont mean 2 weeks. but i'd say a solid year of MMA training, or something like BJJ, and you'd tool those guys
JudoPlayer619 3 years ago
and you douche, you wouldn't dictate how the fight went
mtseevid 3 years ago 2
fight was great. i doubt anyone in the ufc or mma today could take down this white guy as he was
ssmecherie 3 years ago 2
Umm, I've fought plenty and would LOVE to fight these guys. Their Jiu Jitsu was horrible, their wrestling basically non existant except for a half ass sprawl and their striking was okay, but not good. I think I could beat either of these fighters and would love to fight them.
TedWurz 3 years ago
black guy was scared as shit.
saltyfam 3 years ago
it was over after the 1st kick
1dkl33 3 years ago
those shorts kick ass
thelineofmypeople 3 years ago
That fat guy fights dirty. You dont hit someone when they're down. unless they raped your wife or killed your family. no exuse. no honour. no respect from me.
edstar83 3 years ago
dats the way these kind of fighting work
jammaasonzz 3 years ago 2
if something is worth fighting for, its worth fighting dirty for. if not, you shouldnt be fighting in the first place.
bbmarshall18 3 years ago 4
So the other guy, who twice dived to the ground and stayed there, he was fighting with much more honour than the guy who gave him every fucking chance to stand again?
SmackheadPedo 3 years ago
thanks for the video
Rapoman 3 years ago
I dont care what others say, there is no way to really understand what does and does not work in a fight if you dont actually have real fights. Play fighting "sparring" is great, but a lot you can do while sparring is utterly stupid to do in a real fight. Go read up on ancient pankration if you want to hear about deaths.
BTW, I would of just stomped on the guys nuts, the guy was wide open a lot and the other guys foot was right there... so sue me, I know how to win a fight on the street.
bakakata 3 years ago
as you watch remember this fighting is from 1996 and was before anyone knew much about ground fighting. it was a dangerous persuit and illegal.
The UFC was just starting and had few viewers at the time.
realityfight 3 years ago
This is sooo Dangerous and wrong! it gets me hot!
1hotbikinigirl 4 years ago 6
Dustin Etan looked good He was lookin at the black guy sayin "what the Heck Man git up and fight" I think he felt sorry for the guy after kickin him to the ground. so they placed bets on these fights? wonder how much they got paid
g3rs4 4 years ago 13
morons. they could literally beat each other to death.
upabittoolate 4 years ago 8
Sure, they could have! I've already seen on a video from a international oficial fight a death incident and it's not nice. It is too dangerous. OK, sometimes its fun to go into the ring, just for fun and only with weak punches and kicks and with protectors, but this is too much! BTW. the black guy had no chance from the begining! Had no strenght in his punches and kicks and didn't even try to fight.
Nonicknameleftforme 4 years ago 8
it's not so much the power of a punch or kick but it's acumen. i agree that it's run to go into the ring. but this is utter insanity. no doctors, no corner men, no real organization.
upabittoolate 4 years ago 3
these dummys sayin these guys aint good fighters need some respect. it is known that the black guy collapsed and it is rumoured never recovered they didnt show the finishin blow to protect dustin from being charged. dustin was a world kickboxin champ and the black guy Josepha was a student of a gracie back then. this is legendary the undergound in upstate new york and few knew about it back then. i'm from upstate new york and know what i'm talkin about.
jj34dr4 4 years ago 8
both of these guys look like proficient artists which is why this is so foolish. no doctors or medics present. no sanctions. if the man was injured permanently, it's now on both of their consciences.
upabittoolate 4 years ago 7
wiwm what happen at the end? KO by elbow? ground and pound.
1ToNJaB 4 years ago
cool
teimtu 4 years ago 2
Pretty dramatic! if you stop and you think about the reality of it someone could get really hurt in there
sweetkelly22 4 years ago 5
you get in the ring and take them on you dont know fuck all. Daft twat
daedruoY 4 years ago 7
black guy didnt have anything to offer in striking or submission,white fellas strikes were ok atleast he came to throw down..black guy looked like one of those guys who does amazin things inthe dojo but get him in a real fight and alot of what he does is ineffective..Both are brave to get in there..
thearm101 4 years ago
Come see me and i will be more than happy to show you,
What a stupid fucking comment you had.
vernonp13 4 years ago
Dustin Etan in the beginning clip looks Sharp. Would like to see more of his fights.
danceswithoutwolves 4 years ago 6
Oh the kick lands on his eye at the start. this is before our cage fighting sport and in a dangerous room, notice the windows and glass door. they had to look out for their safety as they were beating each other down. crazy to fight like that
lasvegasclub 4 years ago 6