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  • Jihad is not terrorism , its not killing innocent people , is not collateral damage. If anyone killed an innocent it would be as if he killed the whole of mankind (Qu'ran 5:32) And banning the veil is rascism ,dont forget that .

  • @IdilKarshe Not racism. It is discrimination. The veil is not a race nor is Islam. Peace.

  • islamic...morons

  • poor women

    

  • @mimi73387 - Nothing about men though eh?

  • can mr tariq ramadan the EGYPTIAN tell us , how come 60000 churches in egypt turned to become only 2000

    and how come 58000 churches in Egypt are destroyed and built mosques on thetop of their ruins

    and how come 100s of muslims destroy a church during 6 hours in daylight , and none has been to jail

    why the christian egyptian's trstimony is not taken in consideration in a court trial ???

  • @Chewychu31 and i cant believe im debating on such a topic!! not because i dont respect you. but its simply cant be discussed!!

  • @Chewychu31 history doesnt matter!! dont try to be smart everyone knows Somalia wasnt Arabic, but its Arab now because its people are from Arab ethnicity!! American people are originally from Europe so Americans today arent Americans!!

  • @Chewychu31 do you understand what are u saying?!! (they are horn of Africa!) hmm,i cant figure out why a country in Horn of Africa cant be Arab!! :P its neighbor Djibouti is in Horn of Africa and their official language is Arabic!! you arent gonna say Djibouti isnt Arab right? and Maurithania in the Western Sahara isnt Arab, and Sudan in Central Africa isnt Arab, right?!! :P everything you said doesnt make sence at all man!!

  • @Threeam89 Comoros, an Arab country is located in Southern Africa by the way!!

  • @Chewychu31 OMG!! Arab is ethnicity, not Language!! it doesnt matter what language they speak.. and the two official languages in Somalia are Somali and Arabic.

  • @Chewychu31 noooo, stop making fun of yourself!! its because they are Arabs and speak Arabic!! and what do you think, can Syria join the European Union if its not European?!!! :P

  • @Chewychu31 loool it is Arab country, its officially an Arab country and Muslim too. also its a member of the Arab League. open a Geography book man!! dont say this to anyone :P

  • the fact IS Hirsi Ali is a woman scorned (at the least) and with human beings the TRUTH is what you know. She has experienced disregard in God's name. I'm guessing twere i in her position i'd probably hate God too. The fact is that people make laws and twist righteousness and morals all while standing behind the holy books. Love is what God teaches. Simply

  • This woman is just trying to sell her book by fear mongering, Most Muslims who live in Islams countries never read the Quran, just like most christian never read the bible(old and new testament) a large majority barley do their 5minute-5 prayers a day which is one of the very basic things required in Islam, Most young Muslims have seen at-least 20 western shows, and these are ones in Arabic countries, I really doubt any of them would be a danger to anyone for their religion except for exceptions

  • @Sazad93 This women is 1 step away from become anders (norway) in my opinion... If you ask me the internet is slowly solving all religious problems by itself, after all The internet is the place where religion comes to die... However if you Aggravate someone, they will get in defensive religion position and stop accepting logic... that's why you shouldn't anger people but you should get them to really think deep about religion.

  • I am From Somalia and I hate this women

  • Only a world without religion will be a peaceful one - I have been offended by all religions at some point in my 40 years as a woman on this planet. I hope for our future generations this generation grows up and learns to be good and kind because they want to be not because some rule book someone wrote hundreds of years ago tells them to be good and kind. Let's stop arguing and start being a united humanity.

  • So do Christianity is not European.... !!!!!! Please stop acting with your accent.... dont try to be an Arabian..... to make wealth....

  • @irfanmindian She's never claimed to be an Arabian, she is from Somalia.

  • @joemantex Somalia is an Arab country!!

  • All religion is shit, Islam is just the biggest steam pile of shit.

  • @WirlWind494

    sorry!!

    Love your neighbor as yourself !!

    Show me a single wrongdoing by jesus !!

  • @fish1382 Well supposedly Jesus was God, then he's done a LOT of wrong stuff, from condoning rape and murder to blood sacrifices.

    As for Jesus himself: "He replied, 'I tell you that to everyone who has, more will be given, but as for the one who has nothing, even what he has will be taken away. But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them--bring them here and KILL THEM IN FRONT OF ME.' (NIV Bible, Luke 19:26-28)"

    Plenty wrong with christianity too.

  • @WirlWind494 my love. that scripture in luke is a parable Jesus was telling about a nobleman who gave his servants money to do business while he went away for a bit. lol. You got to read it from the beginning. So that "slaughter them in front of me part" wasn't Jesus. The moral was that a smart man who invests what he has and turns a profit shall always have. Religion as it is, isn't what God wanted but then, ppl are selfish

  • Is this a part of a larger interview? If it isn't, why didn't the hostess ask Naser Khader about anything before the end?

  • hey ya 7aja lol STOP MAKING MANY in the name of islam ..go and help your poor country somalia instead of your lies ... you should came by that truck stacked from africa to america lol

  • thumbs up if she looks african american to you ?

  • Tariz Ramadan is saying that the Muslims in Europe and America are loyal to their country and are blending in. He is also saying "In order to be European you have to be Muslim?" I believe he is speaking thru his FARTHOLE - such a SLY IDIOT. How stupid can this guy Tariq be? Listening to what those Muslims are saying? People can say and claim anything but it is their actions that speak louder than words. Islam is an American religion? A DONKEY gave birth to this MORON Ramadan!

  • @gpolenik

    Anyone can take a few verses out of any religious book and spin it to be bad. Why don't u check out surah 2:40 & 10:90 and not just skim the Quran for anything negative you can find.

  • screw Islam and all that bullshit. nothing but a vicious disgusting religion. I use the Quran as toilet paper.

  • Avode discussing with the kofaar they wont understand anyway,axept those who Allah chose to lead,and those who Allah choses they will never astray,and those who astrays they will not follow.

  • islam forever

  • @erwcat nowhere in islam are we told to "kill people all the time". you can't blame islam for what people who call themselves muslims are doing. if that's the case, then i can blame christianity for hundreds of different things. you & ayaan clearly lack historical contextual understanding... stop being ignorant & get your facts right before you open your mouth & spew useless nonsense.

  • @xquisite21 Islam commands muslims to kill various people: homosexuals, adulterers and those who leave the religion. This is a fact, and in my view makes islam a barbaric creed. Historical contextual understanding has nothing to do with it. It is what the religion teaches. You can blame islam for terrorism because the terrorists are doing what their relgion tells them to do. If this was not the case, then you would be right, but it is the case, so you are wrong.

  • @xquisite21 "Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you dislike it." (Surah 2:216)

    "Slay them wherever you find them...Idolatry is worse than carnage...Fight against them until idolatry is no more and God's religion reigns supreme." (Surah 2:190-)

    "Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends." (Surah 5:51)

    "Seek out your enemies relentlessly." (Surah 4:103-)

    "If you do not fight, He will punish you sternly, and replace you by other men." (Surah 9:37-)

    quotes from Quran idiot

  • You can tell how stupid people are when they write "An European".

  • we have a muslim problem here in britain please fuck off

  • @micap20078 Muslim problem? Being a bigot makes you as bad as the people you don't like.

  • @Graynumber islam is full of hate and bigotry. hypocrite

  • @micap20078 Not muslim. So I can say two wrongs don't make a right. Fighting fire with fire just makes the fire bigger, kid.

  • @Graynumber u are just unrealistic and sheltered from life,i mean working class life,cause,u see, if u are a high skilled professional nothing in the country really touches u ,working with like minded ppl and whatnot upper middle class peeps do...

    mussies don't live next door to u and u don't fear ur daughter or gay son not coming home cause they don't like her/him

    but for simple people muslim immigration is a very shitty bargain,they are a threat,an extra shit to carry on ur back

  • @Graynumber you are either a person leading a sheltered life(middle to upper middle class,generic experiences:girlfriend,movies,­family,circle of friends,more or less independant career and all the other support networks that make you believe all is fine and why can't we just all get along,cause ,u know,''life is fiiiineeeee,dude...'')

    you are not dependant in ur wellbeing on ppl around u,u are not a target of descrimination and violence,u believe all ppl are ''good inside'' and all.

  • @Graynumber or you are just very lucky and didn't get abused by ppl in your life and think everyone are coooooll maaaaan.

    i've known ppl like that personally and they are very naive living in their la-la land.

    just wait till ur muslim friend cuts ur daughters throat for dressing like a whore in his opinion,cause,u know,he just came from his village in the middle of the dessert where cutting throats is the only entertainment out there.u don't understand that MUSLIMS ARE DIFFERENT!!!

  • @Graynumber THEIR CULTURE IS DIFFERENT IN IT'S ***CORE***

    THEY WILL NOT INTEGRATE,AND INNOCENT PEOPLE WILL SUFFER!AND THEY ALREADY DO!

    u don't put a wild boar in the same cage with a tiger,cause only one remains!~

    people are just that-animals.we are different kind and will NOT mix.

    by allowing mussies in europe u are spitting in ur ancestors face.cause ,u know, all they did was give their tears,blood and sweat and lives for you to live on this land and prosper.get a clue

  • @Graynumber i know it's hard to admit that you are not smarter than all the people of the previous centuries who FOUGHT TILL THEIR LAST BREATH TO NOT GIVE EUROPE TO MUSLIMS.ur ancestors,ur X5 grandfather gave his life to not let muslims get their way here.they had some very good reasons for that,don't you think?

    life back then was much simple and ppl very simple,yes,but they were also more aware of the core values and knew what is important,which today is manipulated by smoke&mirrors

  • when islam dont let islamic people to convert to other religion, why other religion would let their people to convert to islam?? not fair!

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  • tariq ramadan is a lying bitch. he needs to get called out more.

  • @hallokitty00 HOW THE FUCK THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH ISLAM ITSELF WHEN IT TELLS TO KILL PEOPLE ALL THE TIME YOU FUCKN MUPPET!?

  • why the fuck are those mussie nutcases allowed in europe???

    it's obviously the PEOPLE OF EUROPE ARE AGAINST IT!

    fuck politicians not giving a fuck

  • @erwcat Why are bigots allowed anywhere? 

  • hahaha this woman is sooooooo fake

  • she might be an agent sowing discord on islam... hmmm im not religious or anything but ima do more research on the matter

  • small part causing problems wht a CROACK LIE & DECEPTION muslims antichrist follow teaching of satanic quran and islam is in war afgainst all trying to reach global domination creation of CALIPHATE world for allah and in this death ideology that satan is c reate under name islam no different that NAZI 3 REICH all kuffars/heretics will be slaughter KILLED

  • Islam is beautiful

  • @855842 islam is shit

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  • Further, Ramadan is an intellectual whose purpose is the brainwashing of not only muslims but those who are easily taken in with strenuous and forceful double-speak.

    Ayaan on the other hand, is a class-act.

    God B. Less......all of them!

  • Do not confuse the beliefs or practices of an individual or a small minority of believers for the entire religion. As one example, in the minds of many Americans, responsibility for 9/11 terrorist attack has spread from 19 radical, violent, fundamentalist Muslims and their Al-Qaida handlers to all 1.6 billion followers of Islam.

    As for Ayaan, she is nothing more than a malign thug, paid provocateur & pro Muslim basher.

  • @fromwilliams Had american muslims stood up and denounced those who committed the dirty deed, then perhaps a case could be made. However, it took months and only at the realisation the omission of denounciation was working against them, did the muslim community make noises in that respect. What they did do immediately after 9\11 was to scream not to be victimised for the acts of that day, thus showing concern for crimes that hadn't yet occurred while staying mum regards the evil alread done.

  • islam is not even a religion, it is a cult or type of satanic worship. It is that simple.

  • who the does she thnk she is? She is a bitch puppet n wants to hide under Europeans, she evil n is only created hate btween pple n religions..omg we need cohesion n respect among different rlgns n pple not hate

  • Islam is a cult; perhaps one day it will evolve into a religion.

    Think it is today? Ask the Coptic Christians in Egypt, if any are left; or the Bahai worshipers in Iran; again, if any are left.

  • I have seen this so many times,

    1. Liberals (who I like very much) want to neutralize everything by using fancy or nice words,( ignoring the elephant in the room so that ppl wont get mad)

    2. Journalists trying to put her in a corner or at least make her think she is wrong,

    3. Very educated people trying to confuse her by mentioning groups in muslim countries, say indonesia, nigeria etc.

    4. Angry muslim representatives ....the result

    Ayaan makes them look like retards :-) what a woman.

  • Ayaan Hirsi Ali is bitch who dont know nothing about Islam she was adopted by christians when she was young and brainwashed and given too much drugs, she is digraced to human being and she need to quit sayin she is Somali because Somalis are 100% muslims..stupid crackhead bitch

  • @somalisoulja1 You're stupid. "quit sayin she is Somali because Somalis are 100% muslims" just shows how defeated and brain dead you are. Somalians are Somalians, Muslim isn't a fucking race or ethnicity.

  • Is Christianity?

  • lol... a french Muslim using the Al Taqqyia (lie to benefit Islam). If you do like he says almost all Muslims do you are not a Muslim. Regarding women, regarding people from other religions, regarding law... as he puts it there is no Islam. So he like almost every Muslim spokesperson he is a liar, just like Allah. Who is a schemer.

  • It's impossible to speak to someone who's telling the brutally honest facts concerning Islam. These CNN anchors are idiots! Ayaan Hirshi Ali is the only one with any sense at all. And, her "Poll" percentages are WAYYY exaggerated. A poll in Britian was conducted, and 82% of British Muslims think of themselves as Muslims first, British citizens 2nd. If you don't believe it, look it up on Google.

  • @shebakali6 I think u need to prove where the prophet was a thief, murderer, rapist or an assassin. Lol it seems your a reader of anti Islamic texts. I've tried finding such things from islamic sacred texts but to no avail.

  • @shebakali6 all the prophets wives were chosen by god for a reason. Aisha was named by the prophet as the mother of all the believers. She contributed the most in providing the sayings and examples of the prophet and leading the Muslim community of her time.

  • @shebakali6 just because something your not used to doesn't make it wrong. In mississippi, Columbia, Georgia they are young at 13 or no minimum age to marry. Are they all pedophiles? When a girl reaches puberty then she's a woman. Consequences seen all around us with endless amounts of single teenage mothers that will have to depend on the state. England has the highest teenage pregnancies in Europe

  • Ayaan Hirsi MAGAN has been exposed as a liar again and again.

  • CRUSADES AND CRUSADERS .. WE CAN AND WE SHOULD ... APPLY ISLAMIC KORAN EDICTS TO ALL MUSLIMS .. CONVERT OR DIE .. LIKE MOHAMMED TEH CHILD MOLESTER SAYS .. SPREAD THE RELIGIONS BY FIRE AND SOWRD

  • [16:125] Invite (all) to the Way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious: for thy Lord knoweth best, who have strayed from His Path, and who receive guidance.

  • @TheLazyist The truth is in the text [2:6] As to those who reject Faith, it is the same to them whether thou warn them or do not warn them, they will not believe.

  • @TheLazyist lol I've realised that.

    None of these anti-Islamic Internet surfers can prove anything wrong. Maligning is what they resort to as they have no evidence. I'm just glad I'm Muslim. they alway use false evidence so I used to research which in turn strengthened my belief and changed my life for the better :-)

  • @usyk36 If you can prove that Muhammad was NOT a pedophile, rapist, murderer, assassin and thief, then you win $50,000. See Faith Freedom or Ali Sina's website.

    Why don't you PROVE that islam is a religion of peace? Instead of a religion of 'pieces' (ie. i chop you into pieces if I cannot rape, steal ,convert you)

  • Truth to be Told, Islam is a Roman Religion, and a majority of Islamic Values originated in the Pax Romana, including the way, Islam Dress there Women.

  • bravo! great speaker! may Europe soon see the light.

  • With all his interruptions and verbal diahrrea, this guy still can't address one single point of hers in a coherent fashion.

  • Abraham would say before death meets you die in submission to almighty god, Moses will say live and die in submission to

    god, Jesus will say when you die make sure you are in submission to god. WELL Allaah says in the quran- Do not die except in a state of submission my will. SO WHAT IS ISLAM- Islam is the religion of Abraham, Jesus, Moses, Muhammad, I feel sorry for Ayaan and the likes of her. Hellfire & Paradise is real. The believers are in paradise, the disbelievers are in hellfire.

  • @mshameeliatomboy dude she just had a bad impression about Islam, why didn't she just blame it on her culture as a Sudanese and blamed it on Islam we are suppose to correct her but she denies because she is grown to the fact that Europe is a great country.

  • Well done Ayaan, tell it like it is!

  • Ayaan stood up to these appeasement liberals and Islamists in the closet. The burqa is ANTAGONISTIC to democracy. We can't treat a woman as human who wears the burqa: if a woman with a burqa gets hit by a car, and a western man tries to help her, he will be attacked by her husband and brothers.

  • Ayaan stood up to these appeasement liberals and Islamists in the closet.

  • oxford professor? he shouldn't be able to teach his delusional opinion at a community college

  • it s not a debate

  • hahaha Ayaan: Islam is not a European religion  Me: Well so isnt Christianity, wasnt Europe ruled by barbaric peoples that believed in many gods and idols, if it wasnt for the Romans, Europe would have been technologically advanced as the natives Thailand and The Americas.

  • sorry for my english

  • Allah doesn't says kill inocent people ! that black woman has no knowledge and she need to learn to listen !

  • Amazing how if a muslim or ex muslim makes a point aagaist Islam they are either fakes or liars. Denial is not an argument.

  • my god this Ayaan hirsi ali is defiantly not or ever was a muslim, i can tell by her knowledge of the religion. First she says Jihad gives you the right to kill, this bitch has to know the real meaning of Jihad - To strive and struggle. Furthermore she states that islam is not a religion of peace when if you read the quran it promotes peace and understanding, lastly if she was a muslim she must have been passive ie. never read the quran and believed everything that the media says.

  • @13dachronic Hey... go take the Kuran and shove it up your filthy muslim ass. She was born in Somalia you fool.

  • @soundbeans Ya she was born in somalia but she never lived through war its fact that she moved to Kenya, enrolled in its richest school, lived in a big house with her family in a good neighborhood. Furthermore she was never muslim, her last name was not Ali but Megan. She is not muslim, why are you believing in this liar, know the real truth punk.... Plus shove your head up Ayaans filthy lying ass you punk bitch.

  • This guy Ramadan is a professor at Oxford. It says a lot about the current social climate in Britain. What a shame.

  • Ugh religion is something I love to talk about and everyone wants to fight me on it. Look, if the women follow the Quran religiously and wish to wear the veil then let them have it. Times are changing and whether "god", religion, the bible, Quran likes it or not so are we. Morals and values are key to a happy healthy and safe life with equality but if religions important to the person then let them be that way.

  • The Quran is perfect no mistakes what so ever, Islam is a religion for all man kind... if u dont agree that's ok mate it will only keep growing cause it is obviously the truth and it makes sense to most man kind with knowledge and an open mind, fastest growing religion in the world. Peace and may god help u see the truth and look past ur media.

  • The fact remains that the women are free to do what they want. Ayaan accuses Islam of curbing womens rights so is she saying that in France those women are being forced to wear the veil? Does she want a ban on the covering? If so, then how is that any different to Muslims forcing women to wear the veil? It should be the womens choice what she wears. Who is Ayaan to judge?

  • Another challenge ...

    Why did Mohamed preach peace with others when he was oppressed in Medina but then preaches war once he had the strength to take over Mecca?

    another ...

    Why did Mohamed preach Monogamy when his first MILFy first wife was still alive, but once she was dead he changed God's mind and starting preaching Polygamy?

    when talking to Mohamed, God (the infallible being) seems to change His mind a lot; why is this???

    because it is all bullshit!!!

  • @turtledragon420 uhmm dude first of all prophet Mohammed (PBUH) never preached about polygamy

    second thing is why do you care ? you're an atheist just shut the hell up. we have the free will to believe.

    third thing is if you are trying to ask a question about a religion try to research first before asking a question?

    Peace.

  • Islam the religion of peace™:

    :"Whoever changed his (Islamic) religion, then kill him" Sahih al-Bukhari, 9:84:57

    Quran 9:2 but that Allah will cover with shame those who reject Him.

    9:3 And proclaim a grievous penalty to those who reject Faith

    9:14 Fight them, and Allah will punish them by your hands, cover them with shame, help you (to victory) over them, heal the breasts of Believers,

  • @turtledragon420 Mecca is the land of Allah , it was an order from allah to go and have it back

    and Polygamy came to existance because the chapter of qu'ran that allows this act , appeared after the death of his first wife

    u need to know that qu'ran didn't come up alll in just one second , it came by chapter andeach chapter deals with a specific issue

    do u have any questions my friend ?

  • @turtledragon420 i agree . mohamed was a fucking crazy . jesus is love - mohamed is war and fear.

  • @turtledragon420

    My friend you hit the nail right on the head!!!

  • @turtledragon420 He preach peace in his entire life. It was the people of mecca who breached the 10 years peace agreement and in response to that the muslims attacked them.

    that is a basic knowledge. the huge problem here is that most people attacking islam without having the basic knowledge about it like you.

    You will need to read more about the fastest growing religion in the west and at that time i can respond to your other silly questions.

    peace

  • @turtledragon420 Maybe muslims think this.. watch this video:

    watch?v=BEgEieAf2xc

    And didn't muhammad went 2 war with mecca because they tried 2 kill him, & he didn't opress hte people of medina, he only expelled SOME jewish tribes because they betrayed him too the meccans, and he punished them by muslim law, so they were simply expelled if they were jugded by jewish law (One of them chose 2 b) then...Deuteronomy 20:10-14

  • 33:50

    is the best surah

    so Mohamed tells others that god allows him and him alone to fuck any woman he pleases

    of course we just have to take Mohamed's word on this since god speaks only to him.

    he is also allowed to rape the widows of the men he murdered, and "set them aside" temporarily and then come back later to rape them again 33:51

    haha!!! cult leader rapist.

  • @turtledragon420 [2:6] As to those who reject Faith, it is the same to them whether thou warn them or do not warn them, they will not believe.

  • @usyk36

    So what is the point???

    The Koran contradicts itself too much.

    Why have missionaries? Why over repentence before you overpower your enemies then?

    If it does not matter, why ever stop the killing of those you view as non-believers, since they could just be lying like you are?

    "The Bible (or the Koran) is like a person; you can get it to say anything if you torture it long enough."

    your people should be intimately aware of this truth.

  • @turtledragon420 same difference. U know it's u im talking to or do u need proof for that too. Com on. Give me a challenge. Why is it so easy to prove u wrong

  • @usyk36 You just THINK you are proving me wrong because you are a delusional, moronic, crazy person.

    If you like a challenge, then explain how the Koran was WRITTEN and WHEN.

    and let's see if others think it is total bullshit.

  • And He has set up on the earth mountains standing firm, lest it should shake with you; and rivers and roads; that ye may guide yourselves (The Qur'an, 16:15)

    Other places in the Quran (13:3, 15:19, 27:61, 31:10, 41:10, 50:7, 27:77). So the mountains Obsorb the movement of tectonic plates otherwise the whole world would be shaking.

  • @turtleneck420 [36:40] It is not permitted to the Sun to catch up the Moon, nor can the Night outstrip the Day: Each swims along in its own orbit.

    [21:33] It is He Who created the Night and the Day, and the sun and the moon: all the celestial bodies swim along, each in its rounded course.

  • @usyk36 wrong one day the Sun will expand and envelope the moon and all the planets.

    his science is wrong, thus so is his god.

    also, the orbits are not round they are elliptical and the Muslims should have known this since they stole and hoarded Greek knowledge.

    but Mohamed could not read, because he was an illiterate moron.

  • who the hell is "turtleneck420"?

    are you a troll?

    attacking ME now instead of facing the Truth?

    typical.

  • @turtledragon420 tell me your beliefs. Maybe if I step out of my Muslim shoes I can take another perspective to see why u think Islam is wrong. One proof and il become agnostic in a second

  • @usyk36 I doubt you will or that you are honest in that statement but...

    " Is not He Who made the earth a fixed abode, and placed rivers in the folds thereof, and placed firm hills therein. and hath set a barrier between the two seas? Is there any God beside Allah? Nay, but most of them know that!" 27:61

    The Earth is not"fixed" it moves around the Sun and through the Universe.

    The "hills" are not 'firm" they move and grow everyday.

    Humans are NOT the center of the universe.

    does that help?

  • @turtleneck420 Irrational would be something proven wrong and defy logic but u failed to prove anything wrong. How can a desert man have written something with sociological, scientific, political and spiritual accuracy and yet still not be proven wrong in any aspect with hundreds of thousands of books written but not one proof. I live in the UK so islamaphobia is everywhere yet still what people say has no proof from the scriptures. Why? How?

  • @Turtledragon420 i've looked at the references you gave but it seems you haven't put in context anything and I countered the verses you gave by merely giving the previous or following verse that says you can fight if in battle but if peace is asked for the it should be given.

  • Surah 109 puts Islam in perspective towards peace. Personally I think if someone offends or wants something destroyed should acknowledge what they up against and expect a reaction according to their actions. Key principle in life is respect, which leads to peace.

  • @usyk36

    And this is the problem with Muslims .. they DEMAND that respect come BEFORE peace.

    They feel if you do not Respect their beliefs (ie. Delusions) then they are justified in acting in a non-peaceful manner.

    Life comes first, then peace and then with time and peaceful action comes Respect.

    you and the other Muslims have it ass-backwards.

    Respect is earned and NOT given.

    You want people to think Islam is a religion of peace then act peacefully and REJECT those who use violence.

  • @turtledragon420 I read it how it's written. The message it gives to me is to help those who are oppressed. You must read too many anti-Islam websites and u seem to be maligning what the actual message is. Im just trying to find the true religion. What is game of telephone?

  • @usyk36

    he Game of Telephone is a game children play to demonstrate how and why gossip is bad and an unreliable source of information.

    The children are put in a circle, then one child is told a story or a series of events (the adult whispers the story to the child) then the child whispers the story to the next kid and so-on around the circle.

    Inevitably when the story gets back around to the first child it is so hilariously distorted that it is nowhere near the original story.

    time=lies

  • @usyk36

    I NEVER go to anti-Islamic websites. Another philosophy student claimed I was doing this years ago and I just pulled out my copy of the Koran that I carried around and buried him with the words in the Koran.

    Like ALL religious texts it is filled with violence and murder, absurd laws and traditions and contradicts itself.

    I am not a bigot, a bigot is someone who IRRATIONALLY attacks something, but since religion IS irrational by its Nature, then attacking it is NOT irrational.

  • @usyk36 Dude I know you want to protect islam but don't agrue with a close minded stupid prick he doesnt know shit !! the only thing that he want is proof to his eyes and science well science doesn't prove anything yet !! it's our word against this stupid turtledragonguy -_- if I were you just drop it .

  • @turtledragon I think when the US army go to fight wars they shoot feathers at the enemies. I wonder how you fight when someone is trying to kill you?

  • And this is where they get the beheading stuff, and ransom and hostages and slaves etc.

    "Now when ye meet in battle those who disbelieve, then it is smiting of the necks until, when ye have routed them, then making fast of bonds; and afterward either grace or ransom till the war lay down its burdens. That (is the ordinance). And if Allah willed He could have punished them (without you) but (thus it is ordained) that He may try some of you by others."

    Koran 47:4

    SOUNDS PEACEFUL TO ME!!!

    LOL!

  • @turtledragon420 I think again u missed the important bit. [4:91] Others you will find that wish to gain your confidence as well as that of their people: Every time they are sent back to temptation, they succumb thereto: if they withdraw not from you nor give you (guarantees) of peace besides restraining their hands, seize them and slay them wherever ye get them: In their case We have provided you with a clear argument against them.

  • @usyk36

    So the point I am missing is that Muslims have been given "a clear argument" to "seize (me) and slay (me) wherever (Muslims) get (me)"???

    No I got that point clearly.

    What is yours?

    Are you a Parody Of Islam???

    I have read the Koran front-to-back and back-to-front and it is clearly bullshit.

    Also the whole image of Mohamed thing, I get the goal but now it is used to justify violating one Commandment to punish violation of another Commandment.

    THAT makes sense. LOL!

  • @turtledragon [4:75] And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah and of those who, being weak, are ill-treated (and oppressed)?- Men, women, and children, whose cry is: "Our Lord! Rescue us from this town, whose people are oppressors; and raise for us from thee one who will protect; and raise for us from thee one who will help!"

  • @usyk36 4:75 is talking about saving the new Muslims from violence and oppression in Medina at the hands of the Arab-Idolaters there. The "rescue us" part is referring solely to Muslims as the "us". and the "town" is specifically Medina and NOT any town.

    Do you not study your own book?

    It is not really that long, took me a day and the re-read with notes took less than a week.

  • @turtledragon420 oops I think u forgot to add the following verse [4:90] Except those who join a group between whom and you there is a treaty (of peace), or those who approach you with hearts restraining them from fighting you as well as fighting their own people. If Allah had pleased, He could have given them power over you, and they would have fought you: Therefore if they withdraw from you but fight you not, and (instead) send you (Guarantees of) peace, then Allah Hath opened no way for you

  • @usyk36 I said I could quote-mine too. Did you not get the point?

    Religion is stupid and contradicts itself all the time no matter what the faith is.

    Also, the truth is Mohamed never wrote any of this down himself and it was all canonized decades after his death.

    Anyone up for a game of Telephone???

  • "And wage war on all the idolaters as they are waging war on all of you. And know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (to Him)."

    Koran 9:36

    "Sanction is given unto those who fight because they have been wronged; and Allah is indeed Able to give them victory;"

    Koran 22:39

  • "Those who believe do battle for the cause of Allah; and those who disbelieve do battle for the cause of idols. So fight the minions of the devil ."

    Koran 4:76

    " If they keep not aloof from you nor offer you peace nor hold their hands, then take them and kill them wherever ye find them. Against such We have given you clear warrant."

    Koran 4:91

    side note: he capitalized We, meaning either God is plural or Mohamed is making Moses' sin by relating himself to God, thus putting himself beside God.

  • wow.

  • Islam is indeed a big danger for the world and humanity, the comments below made me think like that from today on...

  • I'm not muslim but I am dutch and I am glad she is gone. She was only interested in hearing herself speak and she is really good in self-publicizing. Frankly, her and the US deserve each other.

  • @bigchicken24 thank you .. tell americans. we all know this woman and her need of attention...

  • “Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy handhold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things. (The Noble Quran, 2:256)“

  • @usyk36 Wow! Quote-mine much? I can play that game too

    "So choose not friends from them till they forsake their homes in the way of Allah; if they turn their back then take them and kill them wherever ye find them, and choose no friend nor helper from among them."

    Koran 4:89

    sounds very peaceful, friendly and tolerant to me; how about you?

  • @capturedpilot “Say : O ye that reject Faith! I worship not that which ye worship, Nor will ye worship that which I worship. And I will not worship that which ye worship, Nor will ye worship that which I worship. To you be your Way, and to me mine. (The Noble Quran, 109:1-6)“

  • 100s of thousands of very well educated and PhD holders go around on streets of Europe unemployed or work as toilette cleaners just because they are 2nd or 3rd generation immigrants and this woman has made a fortune, big fat accounts at different banks, a political carrier as a parliament member and a name for herself through spreading propaganda against Islam. This is the only qualification she has. Can some body explain to me what are those values WEST is proud of? Isn't these brothel values?

  • Islam is evil. Be tolerant of it, if you choose. That's one way of committing suicide.

    Also, hijab is a deliberate cultural attack: it seeks to insult and displace Western culture. If you can't see that, then God help you. If you cannot notice when your culture is being negated, then you are lost.

    If you cannot notice that you are being demographically displaced, then you will become non-existent.

    There is a silent war waged against you; and you are being defeated, steadily.

  • @capturedpilot awwww isnt that just cute. i really appreciate u having such extensive knowldge of my religon and societies where my religon prospers. but let me enhance your knowldge by telling u that islam is the first religon to ever have recognized womens' rights by giving them the right to initiate divorce. islam was the first religon to have denounced rascism (the first takbir caller of medina was a former abyssinian slave ). and it took 77 years for civil rights to arive in the US.

  • Respond to this video... and btw the hijab was a persian dress code which was accepted by the muslim societies years after the death of the Prophet. i hope this isnt too much for your fragile little brain to absorb. adieu =)

  • @njaaq Actually, your comment was largely incoherent. Regarding the insult, join the queue of losers who have made similar infantile remarks. Yawn =)

  • @capturedpilot whatever u say darling. but it would be just awesome if u could back your argument with historical facts until then so long. =p

  • @njaaq Historical facts about what? The Ottoman Empire and its relentless murder, torture and slavery? The Muslim genocide of the Armenians? The Muslim controlled areas in Paris and London, where rape is a norm? The Muslim rape-gangs in Leeds and Manchester? Saudi: where women get stoned to death if they are not wearing the right-colour socks, or if they blink too fast, or breathe too loud? All those Israeli school-buses riddled with Muslim machine-gun fire?

    Just ask; I will tell.