@TheNiteowll Then they will be punsihed in the end. However, you will be rewarded because of your caring and generous deed! See, it doesn't matter how much you Tithe, as long as you Tithe in the Spirit of God, then that is what Tithing really is! It is giving in the right spirit. Read my previous comment about the women and her 2 pennies, and i hope this helped you. God Bless!
The Tithe is not generous if it is mandatory. And if it is mandatory, it is not Spirit led. You cannot tell everyone that they must do something, and then say that they voluntarily comply.
@blueskunk12 Excatly! That's why Tithing is done in the right spirit! But those who are greedy to take the money and use it for their own doing is a sin. If you do a good deed, God will give you a reward, whether if you didn't know or not. But there is more to Christianity, like loving God, Loving others, resisting the Devil, etc... God Bless!
The whole church system today resembles nothing of the early church. If you read in acts on the day of pentecost when the 3000 got saved what did they do after that they sold their possesions and gave them to the apostles and the apostles distributed to everyone that had need. And there was no one lacking. They didnt use that money for themselves or build fancy buildings. Everyone in there heart agreed that what they owned wasnt theres anymore it belonged to everyone.
Exactly. The Church practiced Socialism. Everyone contributed as much as they could, and took what they needed from the Church.
Does the Church practice this today? No.
Instead, the Church DEMANDS that everyone give, but keep most of it for themselves. The poor, the widow, and the orphan who once RECEIVED the Tithe, now have to PAY it to those who have more money than they.
And in the Old Covenant, only a tenth of the tithe went into the Storehouse.
@Elderyoungone Have you ever Tithe before? If you did, did you have faith that God is going to give you what you want when you did it? Did you know that in the Book of Malachi (Not sure if i spelled that right) it says that when you Tithe, God gives you more than you can possibly imagine? And it also says that this is the ONLY time to test the Lord about your rewards! Give, and Ask, and you shall recieve. God Bless!
@blueskunk12 Christ came and established the New Covenant, yes we are suppose to obey that. But didn't he also say "Give freely and don't be afraid if they might not repay for then you are truly acting as the Children of God?" Give even if you don't have anything to give, because if you give up land, cattle, family, etc... for the Lord's sake, you will recieve 100x more in Heaven. God Bless!
You claim we have a Covenant of obedience. I asked for proof, and you answer with your opinion. Please provide PROOF that we have a covenant of obedience.
I offer here and now proof that we do not have a Covenant of obedience.
Galatians 5:1
So Christ has truly set us free. Now make sure that you stay free, and don’t get tied up again in slavery to the law.
This is a beautiful video. I wish all God's people could be at peace knowing that all churches are doing such things with the tithes and offerings of His people. That would just be awesome.
thanks for the comment. How about looking at 1 Corinthians 9 and a view on where some of the church offerings should go - and by offerings I include tithe
I like the idea behind this video and always thought of tithing as a way to help those in need. My church, no longer Stonelake, is telling me that it is used for very specific forms of selective need. I am not fully familiar with the bible yet but I certainly do not believe this.
Some Christians say, that tithing is Old Testament and Christians are not required to do so. While that is true, we should still be giving as much money as possible to our church, the poor and other ministries. Tithing may not be commanded, but don't use that as an excuse to not do it. If YAHUWAH sees that you truly want to contribute to His cause, He will bless you beyond measure. There is one investment that si 100% risk free that will give a big return, and that is, YAHUWAH's kingdom.
@MilitaryMan68564 ..it is not necessary, it is a hoax by the modern church. Why pay someone elses electric bill and house note. It is a big lie, not the way Yahweh intended for Yisrael. It was food in the storehouse for the poor and fatherless and levitical priesthood, who were not to own anything. There are far more ways to give than money.
I think tithing does 2 things; it provides for the Church and it tests our faith that God can and will provide for us- the hardest thing is to keep tithing when you can't see God 'doing anything' in your life - do you have what it takes or will you quit? I guess if we quit we will be the bigger loser in the end...If only we could see what God see's!
@MrChubbleyWarner We also have to remember to keep ourselves set up as well as we can being God's temple. If we give until we have nothing we then we have lost our ability to give (whatever is may have been). While we may be rewarded in many ways the good health and standing of God's temple is always a great place to start!
@StoneLakeChurch I kind of agree, but...if we are giving faithfully with the right heart and intention.. would a loving and all powerful God who loves us, allow us to give ourselves into poverty?
Surely, God will 'look after' those who faithfully support His church. The millions of non-believers who maybe give to secular charities would recoil in horror at the thought of giving money to the Church and indeed condemn those faithful Christians that do tithe - no good if those Christians go broke!
@MrChubbleyWarner "allow"? O.K. that wipes free will completely out. I am not very experienced with the bible but free will is something I have heard and learned alot about. I, while not having much of anything, have given to those worse off than me on several ocassions. If I kept doing this lacking any regard to my own well being, then I would no longer be able to give and then end up on the needy side. In essence, through my own will, I have depleted any blessings I may have gotten.
@StoneLakeChurch - All blessing from God is of His grace and not dependant on anything we have done, could do or will ever do...it is good that you gave to others in need, but to keep giving and render yourself poor, is not being a 'wise steward' of resources God has given you... What I meant by 'allow' was that IMO God would not let things get that tight financially in your life that to carry on giving would result in you being in need yourself. That is not being a 'wise steward' my friend...
Sounds like we are in agreement. Funny how some people kind of implement the whole "boat-helicopter-raft" that sails by the drowning man who thinks God is gonna send him something other worldly rather than the modern items we have.
@StoneLakeChurch - tithing/giving is a fascinating thing ...many fall foul of the 'prosperity gospel' con... like signing up to a MLM 'opportunity'...they end up very bitter when riches do not come their way and feel cheated in some way! But, they were really snared by their own desire fuelled by the pulpit 'pimps' claims that 'you can't outgive God' etc etc - Need to get our hearts right before God where giving is concerned - This can take many years - Give anyway - blessing or no blessing!
@MrChubbleyWarner Well put. I had been in a couple of MLM's and was there more for the product than the money but I never made any money anyway. LOL I believe there are some really great MLM's out there and there are some where I think it is really just too late unless you are an amazing salesperson. The last one I was in had no sales at all which was kind of strange. Alot of money and time to invest though. All write off's but still.
@MrChubbleyWarner Well, i can see your point. However, remember that poor old women in the Bible, in the New Testament, where she had only 2 pennies left, but yet she gave it as an offering anyway? Don't worry about money, because God will always care for you! If you hold on to this life, you will lose it, but if you give it up for the Lord's sake, you will find it! You may not want to Tithe, but do it in a good spirit, and i promise you that God will give you much more.
@Stayoffhereable = yes, I have no doubts He will...I hope that you will have the faith to take the journey into tithing when you are older, you will learn much - best wishes my friend
tithing,if anything ,represents the beginning stage of generous giving ;but it should only be looked at as a reference point,not as a scare tatic to give..only by your own motives from the heart will you give,because thats where you make the final decision according to corinthians..
I like the way that you put this. There appears to have been no tithing 'system' before Abraham in the Old Testament - but in response to God's offer of Covenant and prosperity Abraham decides of his own accord that he will give a tithe. The Old Testament is but a shadow of the New - but paints the same picture for our lives. Saved by Grace - and a response from love.
Generosity is a sign of love and especially in this materialistic age we need to show our love and loyalty to God by involvement in his eternal purpose whether materially or by the use of our talents in his work. Whatever one feels about the Tithe ( see Malachi 3:8-10), the prophetic challenge is there for everyone to see- why not put God to the test by returning the tithe and see if He will not open the windows of heaven and pour out an amazing blessing.
@jrnnicholson Mal 3:10 is "I will open up the window and pour u out a blessing (A BLESSING) (SINGULAR) who do u know that gave a single tithe and received a single blessing they had no room to receive it? Either God is lying or were lying. IT's "A" SINGULAR BLESSING No room 2 receive it BC this was crops and livestock for the next harvest season ur barns were gonna burst forth crops/Livestock over flow u have to give it away. If this was true every week u would be a gazillionaire. :)
The Hebrew for law is Torah - and can be seen as every word of (at the very least) of the first 5 books of the Bible. Jesus suggested (commanded?) that not even one word of these books (and likely all of the rest of the Old Testament) would not pass away
I don't think tithing is a commandment, I believe it's a test of one's faith in God. He knows how man feels about money. When you give God control of your money by tithing, He says he will bless you by giving you way more in return than the 10% you gave Him.
I'm a firm believer in this because I do it and it works! He doesn't need our money, He needs us to allow Him to control our finances as a sign of trust.
One writer states,"The system of tithes and offerings was intended to impress the minds of men with a great truth-that God is the source of every blessing to His creatures,Acts 17:25, Deutoronomy 8:18.
"In the days of Israel the tithes and offerings were needed to maintain the ordinances of divine service." "God has made men His stewards and has placed in their hands the means that He has provided for the spread of the gospel."
Tithing is old testament law and not for today , more and more people are beginning to understand this, in answer to @PETERADVENT all Jesus did was under the law until he fulfilled it .the curtain was torn in two ushering in the NEW covenant the Levitical priesthood no longer was Gods way and Jesus became our high priest , sadlly I believe the pastors who preach tithing do it to ensure they have a good income and not because its biblical they are not Levites and never will be.
Was the Levitical priesthood ever the way? They had a function - but Jesus was always the way the truth and the life. The suggestion some have made and the implication behind your thought is that we don't need to use the Old Testament. Really?
Yes the law was the way,before the messiah came, the old covenant was given by God along with laws (Levitical) although the Law could not save anyone the law wasgiven to show sin , without a law there is no lawbreaking, to say that Jesus was the way before he had come makes no sense, And its not an implication, I am saying that some of the old testament IS NOT applicable anymore i.e. The Levitical law tithes and sacrifices for sin, The Galatians had the same problem.
Jesus is indeed the High Priest, see Hebrews chapter 5-10, pay attention to Chapter 10, the efficacy and permanence of Christs sacrifice replaced all animal sacrifices and burnt offerings for sin.
I do not read any place in the Bible which states that Christ's priesthood did away with the need for tithes and freewill offerings.
freewill giving is ok, BUT its not a tithe it can never be a biblical tithe because it was not money it was food and it went to to Levites and only Levites could be priests, The bible does not need to say tithing is obsolete it only had to take away the reason for the tithes and the reciepient of the tithe, Look people are free to give as they wish but they need to realise that if they put themselves under the Levitical law they are under all of it not just the bits they choose to be under
@Kyanjoslin U can only give the tithe to the levite in Jerusalem there R no Levites in order today so how can U give the tithe? The tithe was never ever money so why R we FORCED 2 give money? Free will ofering as money is in play but not a tithe of anything. Show me bible on this.
Forced? Well - if the people you know force you to give tithe there is a real issue there for them. Go back to the point about Abraham. He gave as a response to God. God wasn't forcing him. If I gave of the things I grew - I wouldn't give much if anything. I need to give - so I give time, I give the gifts I have - I give money.
Just noted another point. If I give of time, gifts and such - I'm actually giving what God has given me in the first place. 2 Peter 1:3 is a favourite text of mine. Does that mean God looks after me when I give Him gifts in response to His Grace?
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There is a great audio there for you to listen to. You will come away asking many questions.
What is NOT in mind is the excellent point made by Vortex4001. Preachers must NOT preach for money. Preachers are not to become rich with other's money. The funds MAY be used to pay for those in full-time work - 1 Timothy 5:17-20. The aim is to grow God's work in God's way - have a look at Numbers 18 and try to see what is being aimed at with your New Testament perspective
Churches that I know who use the Bible and the benefit of prophetic guidance (not just Seventh-day Adventist Churches) recognise that God has led in asking His people to give tithe. The result is that His work grows effectively, purposefully and widely.
We live in the days when people give to projects more easily than to simply maintaining God's work. This happened in the New Testament of course - when Paul was collecting for a famine relief operation - similar to the type of programme that the Seventh-day Adventist group ADRA do.
I take the point about free-will offerings. Certainly they were a large part of all offerings from the time of Adam. However those free-will offerings were an addition - not an alternative?
Can I respond to this more completely? We assume that before the New Testament was written the apostles and disciples simply followed Jesus and His teachings. How about Matthew 23:23? The Pharisees were advised to give tithe AND to be just, merciful and faithful. Would the disciples and apostles have simply discarded how they lived and adopted new teachings?
As beautiful as this was to watch a free will offering can do the same thing. Consider the new testament church where all the needs were met though noone tithed.
If I am a good judge of human beings - and I think I am - our decision as to what to give at the end of the weeke depends on what we want to give and often neglects what God wants us to give. There are times when God says, "please do it my way". Blessings to you
I agree...his way may be to give more than ten percent. If we want to really follow ever element of the scripture, then we should be giving 25% or more. There were several different type of tithes mentioned in the bible and they all referred to food, not money. Money was only mentioned for free will offering.
I agree with digtaflava, tithing is not scriptual. What does the apostle Paul say ,make your mind up what your to give and at the end of the week give it,it's a no brainer mate.
Good for you - BUT - Jesus says to the Pharisees that they were doing the right thing to tithe mint and dill and cumin - but that they were failing becasue they neglected weighier matters. I wonder if you could check your point about giving at the end of teh week. It could be that Paul is on the way to deliver the offering for teh famine in Jerusalem and wants to have the offering collected ready.
Tithes were only for ancient Israelites. And one of the purposes of the tithe was to have a BIG party once a year with gluttony and booze! Deuteronomy 14:26 And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul LUSTETH after, for oxen, or for sheep, or for WINE, or for STRONG DRINK, or for whatsoever thy soul desireth: and thou shalt eat there before the LORD thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household Party on, brothers!
Anyone else got a view on this? I was suggesting the idea that there is a general requirement on the part of the Christian to support God's work and people with our money - as well as our heart.
We do appreciate you showing this video in all honesty. It shows your point of view and I do admire your commitment of giving to Christ, but let it be just that. Giving from your heart because of the one who set you free, not out of compulsion because you think you will be robbing God. That's not grace then...that's the law which Jesus died to free us from in completion of the old covenant. God bless you dear.
In the Old Testament, the Food and Cattle tithe were used to sustain the Levitical Priesthood and the storehouse tithe was used to sustain the poor widow, the fatherless and the poor strangers that came into the land. There were "NO BILLS" to pay when the tithe was instituted into law, so although this may be a nice video, it is unscriptural. Lets not be carnal minded and just focus on the fact that the video is nice and well put together, but live by every word that comes out of Yahweh's mouth.
Regardless of what this video says, it is not scriptural. It would not even matter if the tithes were used to feed the poor or homeless, that still does not change the fact that there is no where in scripture where New Testament believers are commanded to tithe and especially do it financially. It is not scriptural. Its like the fictional story of Robin Hood. He stole from the rich and gave to the poor. My point? He indeed blessed the poor, but he had to "sin" in order to do it. Obey the Bible.
i agree...you people who give money has been bewithched. This is a fantasy film. You people got to wake up!!! When you make extra money go to your neighbor and drop off some groceries and leave quickly when you place it on their step.
Your tithes and offerings go to God, if that's who you intend it to go to.
If someone steals from the tithes and offerings, let God deal with them
is there any spirituality on youtube? come on-- you have these people saying, don't go to church, don't pay tithes, don't do this...don't do that-- think about what would happen if we didn't
Regardless of what this video says, it is not scriptural. It would not even matter if the tithes were used to feed the poor or homeless, that still does not change the fact that there is no where in scripture where New Testament believers are commanded to tithe and especially do it financially. It is not scriptural. Its like the fictional story of Robin Hood. He stole from the rich and gave to the poor. My point? He indeed blessed the poor, but he had to "sin" in order to do it. Obey the Bible.
Not trying to create an argument - but as Christians we are to respond to God with our money as well as our hearts - while Jesus commends 'the opposition' for their tithe giving at the same time as reminding them of deeper duties towards God. Have a look at Matthew 23:23. God bless you
Not trying to start an arguement here either, but I am well familiar with that scripture and I can with all truth say that it is not a commandment to the New Testament church to tithe. The Jews in which Jesus was talking to were still under the Mosaic law. The New Covenant had not been established yet. But lets just say that Matthew 23: 23 was referring us today. Then that would mean that we are to tithe with mint and cummin (herbs). Still no monetary requirement no matter how you look at it.
I wish it were one I had made. More of my videos? peteradvent is my channel - look for adventist and jeynes - you will find me there. The video is very gentle but hard hitting. Peter
Your tithes also go to buying con men million dollar homes, cars, jets, vactions (You'll never take) nd fairy tale weddings for their children.
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@TheNiteowll Then they will be punsihed in the end. However, you will be rewarded because of your caring and generous deed! See, it doesn't matter how much you Tithe, as long as you Tithe in the Spirit of God, then that is what Tithing really is! It is giving in the right spirit. Read my previous comment about the women and her 2 pennies, and i hope this helped you. God Bless!
Stayoffhereable 1 month ago
@Stayoffhereable
The Tithe is not generous if it is mandatory. And if it is mandatory, it is not Spirit led. You cannot tell everyone that they must do something, and then say that they voluntarily comply.
blueskunk12 1 month ago
@blueskunk12 Excatly! That's why Tithing is done in the right spirit! But those who are greedy to take the money and use it for their own doing is a sin. If you do a good deed, God will give you a reward, whether if you didn't know or not. But there is more to Christianity, like loving God, Loving others, resisting the Devil, etc... God Bless!
Stayoffhereable 1 month ago
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Exdous Chapter 20:vers.17 The truth about giving. Thou shalt not covet any thing that is thy neighbour's. The 10th commandment.
brotherfrank62 2 months ago
The whole church system today resembles nothing of the early church. If you read in acts on the day of pentecost when the 3000 got saved what did they do after that they sold their possesions and gave them to the apostles and the apostles distributed to everyone that had need. And there was no one lacking. They didnt use that money for themselves or build fancy buildings. Everyone in there heart agreed that what they owned wasnt theres anymore it belonged to everyone.
followthesheperd01 5 months ago
@followthesheperd01
Exactly. The Church practiced Socialism. Everyone contributed as much as they could, and took what they needed from the Church.
Does the Church practice this today? No.
Instead, the Church DEMANDS that everyone give, but keep most of it for themselves. The poor, the widow, and the orphan who once RECEIVED the Tithe, now have to PAY it to those who have more money than they.
And in the Old Covenant, only a tenth of the tithe went into the Storehouse.
blueskunk12 1 month ago
No No,do NOT Tithe,it is wrong.Watch my vids on it.
Elderyoungone 5 months ago
@Elderyoungone Have you ever Tithe before? If you did, did you have faith that God is going to give you what you want when you did it? Did you know that in the Book of Malachi (Not sure if i spelled that right) it says that when you Tithe, God gives you more than you can possibly imagine? And it also says that this is the ONLY time to test the Lord about your rewards! Give, and Ask, and you shall recieve. God Bless!
Stayoffhereable 1 month ago
@Stayoffhereable
Do you know that Malachi is part of the Old Covenant, which does not apply to Christians of the New Covenant?
Either you follow the Old Covenant of obedience to all its laws, or you follow the New Covenant of grace and freedom from the law.
blueskunk12 1 month ago
@blueskunk12 Christ came and established the New Covenant, yes we are suppose to obey that. But didn't he also say "Give freely and don't be afraid if they might not repay for then you are truly acting as the Children of God?" Give even if you don't have anything to give, because if you give up land, cattle, family, etc... for the Lord's sake, you will recieve 100x more in Heaven. God Bless!
Stayoffhereable 1 month ago
@Stayoffhereable
You claim we have a Covenant of obedience. I asked for proof, and you answer with your opinion. Please provide PROOF that we have a covenant of obedience.
I offer here and now proof that we do not have a Covenant of obedience.
Galatians 5:1
So Christ has truly set us free. Now make sure that you stay free, and don’t get tied up again in slavery to the law.
I can't find the verse you quoted.
blueskunk12 1 month ago
This is a beautiful video. I wish all God's people could be at peace knowing that all churches are doing such things with the tithes and offerings of His people. That would just be awesome.
KeneshaCoulibaly 10 months ago
Excellent video!!
JesusisLord7771 11 months ago
thanks for the comment. How about looking at 1 Corinthians 9 and a view on where some of the church offerings should go - and by offerings I include tithe
Peteradvent 1 year ago
I like the idea behind this video and always thought of tithing as a way to help those in need. My church, no longer Stonelake, is telling me that it is used for very specific forms of selective need. I am not fully familiar with the bible yet but I certainly do not believe this.
StoneLakeChurch 1 year ago
I knew it @ 1:39 gave the homeless man some weed.
09hollowtech2 1 year ago
excellent video..this is the truth of it all. thanks pete.
135974 1 year ago
tithes go to child molestation cases charged to the catholic church
MrCrafty 1 year ago
Some Christians say, that tithing is Old Testament and Christians are not required to do so. While that is true, we should still be giving as much money as possible to our church, the poor and other ministries. Tithing may not be commanded, but don't use that as an excuse to not do it. If YAHUWAH sees that you truly want to contribute to His cause, He will bless you beyond measure. There is one investment that si 100% risk free that will give a big return, and that is, YAHUWAH's kingdom.
MilitaryMan68564 2 years ago
@MilitaryMan68564 ..it is not necessary, it is a hoax by the modern church. Why pay someone elses electric bill and house note. It is a big lie, not the way Yahweh intended for Yisrael. It was food in the storehouse for the poor and fatherless and levitical priesthood, who were not to own anything. There are far more ways to give than money.
135974 1 year ago
I think tithing does 2 things; it provides for the Church and it tests our faith that God can and will provide for us- the hardest thing is to keep tithing when you can't see God 'doing anything' in your life - do you have what it takes or will you quit? I guess if we quit we will be the bigger loser in the end...If only we could see what God see's!
MrChubbleyWarner 2 years ago
@MrChubbleyWarner We also have to remember to keep ourselves set up as well as we can being God's temple. If we give until we have nothing we then we have lost our ability to give (whatever is may have been). While we may be rewarded in many ways the good health and standing of God's temple is always a great place to start!
StoneLakeChurch 1 year ago
@StoneLakeChurch I kind of agree, but...if we are giving faithfully with the right heart and intention.. would a loving and all powerful God who loves us, allow us to give ourselves into poverty?
Surely, God will 'look after' those who faithfully support His church. The millions of non-believers who maybe give to secular charities would recoil in horror at the thought of giving money to the Church and indeed condemn those faithful Christians that do tithe - no good if those Christians go broke!
MrChubbleyWarner 1 year ago
@MrChubbleyWarner "allow"? O.K. that wipes free will completely out. I am not very experienced with the bible but free will is something I have heard and learned alot about. I, while not having much of anything, have given to those worse off than me on several ocassions. If I kept doing this lacking any regard to my own well being, then I would no longer be able to give and then end up on the needy side. In essence, through my own will, I have depleted any blessings I may have gotten.
StoneLakeChurch 1 year ago
@StoneLakeChurch - All blessing from God is of His grace and not dependant on anything we have done, could do or will ever do...it is good that you gave to others in need, but to keep giving and render yourself poor, is not being a 'wise steward' of resources God has given you... What I meant by 'allow' was that IMO God would not let things get that tight financially in your life that to carry on giving would result in you being in need yourself. That is not being a 'wise steward' my friend...
MrChubbleyWarner 1 year ago
@MrChubbleyWarner "blessing"? Agree
"unwise steward"? Agree
Sounds like we are in agreement. Funny how some people kind of implement the whole "boat-helicopter-raft" that sails by the drowning man who thinks God is gonna send him something other worldly rather than the modern items we have.
StoneLakeChurch 1 year ago
@StoneLakeChurch - tithing/giving is a fascinating thing ...many fall foul of the 'prosperity gospel' con... like signing up to a MLM 'opportunity'...they end up very bitter when riches do not come their way and feel cheated in some way! But, they were really snared by their own desire fuelled by the pulpit 'pimps' claims that 'you can't outgive God' etc etc - Need to get our hearts right before God where giving is concerned - This can take many years - Give anyway - blessing or no blessing!
MrChubbleyWarner 1 year ago
@MrChubbleyWarner Well put. I had been in a couple of MLM's and was there more for the product than the money but I never made any money anyway. LOL I believe there are some really great MLM's out there and there are some where I think it is really just too late unless you are an amazing salesperson. The last one I was in had no sales at all which was kind of strange. Alot of money and time to invest though. All write off's but still.
StoneLakeChurch 1 year ago
@MrChubbleyWarner Well, i can see your point. However, remember that poor old women in the Bible, in the New Testament, where she had only 2 pennies left, but yet she gave it as an offering anyway? Don't worry about money, because God will always care for you! If you hold on to this life, you will lose it, but if you give it up for the Lord's sake, you will find it! You may not want to Tithe, but do it in a good spirit, and i promise you that God will give you much more.
Stayoffhereable 1 month ago
@Stayoffhereable = yes, I have no doubts He will...I hope that you will have the faith to take the journey into tithing when you are older, you will learn much - best wishes my friend
MrChubbleyWarner 1 month ago
@MrChubbleyWarner
How is Tithing faith? Isn't Tithing the exact opposite of faith?
blueskunk12 1 month ago
tithing,if anything ,represents the beginning stage of generous giving ;but it should only be looked at as a reference point,not as a scare tatic to give..only by your own motives from the heart will you give,because thats where you make the final decision according to corinthians..
suppersonic12 2 years ago
I like the way that you put this. There appears to have been no tithing 'system' before Abraham in the Old Testament - but in response to God's offer of Covenant and prosperity Abraham decides of his own accord that he will give a tithe. The Old Testament is but a shadow of the New - but paints the same picture for our lives. Saved by Grace - and a response from love.
Peteradvent 2 years ago
@suppersonic12
But remember that the Pharisees tithed OVER 10%, and we are to EXCEED their righteousness. How can we do that if we do as they?
To adhere to Tithing means that someone giving 9.9% of their income is not being generous. It DEMANDS a MINIMUM of 10%, which violates 2 Cor 9:7.
blueskunk12 1 month ago
Generosity is a sign of love and especially in this materialistic age we need to show our love and loyalty to God by involvement in his eternal purpose whether materially or by the use of our talents in his work. Whatever one feels about the Tithe ( see Malachi 3:8-10), the prophetic challenge is there for everyone to see- why not put God to the test by returning the tithe and see if He will not open the windows of heaven and pour out an amazing blessing.
jrnnicholson 2 years ago
@jrnnicholson Mal 3:10 is "I will open up the window and pour u out a blessing (A BLESSING) (SINGULAR) who do u know that gave a single tithe and received a single blessing they had no room to receive it? Either God is lying or were lying. IT's "A" SINGULAR BLESSING No room 2 receive it BC this was crops and livestock for the next harvest season ur barns were gonna burst forth crops/Livestock over flow u have to give it away. If this was true every week u would be a gazillionaire. :)
SINGUNTO 2 years ago
The Hebrew for law is Torah - and can be seen as every word of (at the very least) of the first 5 books of the Bible. Jesus suggested (commanded?) that not even one word of these books (and likely all of the rest of the Old Testament) would not pass away
Peteradvent 2 years ago
I don't think tithing is a commandment, I believe it's a test of one's faith in God. He knows how man feels about money. When you give God control of your money by tithing, He says he will bless you by giving you way more in return than the 10% you gave Him.
I'm a firm believer in this because I do it and it works! He doesn't need our money, He needs us to allow Him to control our finances as a sign of trust.
reints74 2 years ago
One writer states,"The system of tithes and offerings was intended to impress the minds of men with a great truth-that God is the source of every blessing to His creatures,Acts 17:25, Deutoronomy 8:18.
"In the days of Israel the tithes and offerings were needed to maintain the ordinances of divine service." "God has made men His stewards and has placed in their hands the means that He has provided for the spread of the gospel."
Kyanjoslin 2 years ago
@Kyanjoslin - did that also mean the priesthood was there for the same thing?
Peteradvent 2 years ago
Tithing is old testament law and not for today , more and more people are beginning to understand this, in answer to @PETERADVENT all Jesus did was under the law until he fulfilled it .the curtain was torn in two ushering in the NEW covenant the Levitical priesthood no longer was Gods way and Jesus became our high priest , sadlly I believe the pastors who preach tithing do it to ensure they have a good income and not because its biblical they are not Levites and never will be.
TheAbsenceofevidence 2 years ago
Was the Levitical priesthood ever the way? They had a function - but Jesus was always the way the truth and the life. The suggestion some have made and the implication behind your thought is that we don't need to use the Old Testament. Really?
Peteradvent 2 years ago
Yes the law was the way,before the messiah came, the old covenant was given by God along with laws (Levitical) although the Law could not save anyone the law wasgiven to show sin , without a law there is no lawbreaking, to say that Jesus was the way before he had come makes no sense, And its not an implication, I am saying that some of the old testament IS NOT applicable anymore i.e. The Levitical law tithes and sacrifices for sin, The Galatians had the same problem.
TheAbsenceofevidence 2 years ago
Jesus is indeed the High Priest, see Hebrews chapter 5-10, pay attention to Chapter 10, the efficacy and permanence of Christs sacrifice replaced all animal sacrifices and burnt offerings for sin.
I do not read any place in the Bible which states that Christ's priesthood did away with the need for tithes and freewill offerings.
Kyanjoslin 2 years ago
freewill giving is ok, BUT its not a tithe it can never be a biblical tithe because it was not money it was food and it went to to Levites and only Levites could be priests, The bible does not need to say tithing is obsolete it only had to take away the reason for the tithes and the reciepient of the tithe, Look people are free to give as they wish but they need to realise that if they put themselves under the Levitical law they are under all of it not just the bits they choose to be under
TheAbsenceofevidence 2 years ago
@Kyanjoslin U can only give the tithe to the levite in Jerusalem there R no Levites in order today so how can U give the tithe? The tithe was never ever money so why R we FORCED 2 give money? Free will ofering as money is in play but not a tithe of anything. Show me bible on this.
SINGUNTO 2 years ago 2
Forced? Well - if the people you know force you to give tithe there is a real issue there for them. Go back to the point about Abraham. He gave as a response to God. God wasn't forcing him. If I gave of the things I grew - I wouldn't give much if anything. I need to give - so I give time, I give the gifts I have - I give money.
Peteradvent 2 years ago
Just noted another point. If I give of time, gifts and such - I'm actually giving what God has given me in the first place. 2 Peter 1:3 is a favourite text of mine. Does that mean God looks after me when I give Him gifts in response to His Grace?
Peteradvent 2 years ago
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2besavedcom 2 years ago
What is NOT in mind is the excellent point made by Vortex4001. Preachers must NOT preach for money. Preachers are not to become rich with other's money. The funds MAY be used to pay for those in full-time work - 1 Timothy 5:17-20. The aim is to grow God's work in God's way - have a look at Numbers 18 and try to see what is being aimed at with your New Testament perspective
Peteradvent 2 years ago
Churches that I know who use the Bible and the benefit of prophetic guidance (not just Seventh-day Adventist Churches) recognise that God has led in asking His people to give tithe. The result is that His work grows effectively, purposefully and widely.
Peteradvent 2 years ago
We live in the days when people give to projects more easily than to simply maintaining God's work. This happened in the New Testament of course - when Paul was collecting for a famine relief operation - similar to the type of programme that the Seventh-day Adventist group ADRA do.
Peteradvent 2 years ago
I take the point about free-will offerings. Certainly they were a large part of all offerings from the time of Adam. However those free-will offerings were an addition - not an alternative?
Peteradvent 2 years ago
Can I respond to this more completely? We assume that before the New Testament was written the apostles and disciples simply followed Jesus and His teachings. How about Matthew 23:23? The Pharisees were advised to give tithe AND to be just, merciful and faithful. Would the disciples and apostles have simply discarded how they lived and adopted new teachings?
Peteradvent 2 years ago
As beautiful as this was to watch a free will offering can do the same thing. Consider the new testament church where all the needs were met though noone tithed.
Asuhigo 2 years ago
DECEPTION! DECEPTION! AND AGAIN DECEPTION and God IS FURIOUS at preachers teaching FOR MONEY! IT IS NOT REQUIRED FOR ANYONE TO TITHE! DECEIVER!
Vortex4001 2 years ago
If I am a good judge of human beings - and I think I am - our decision as to what to give at the end of the weeke depends on what we want to give and often neglects what God wants us to give. There are times when God says, "please do it my way". Blessings to you
Peteradvent 2 years ago
I agree...his way may be to give more than ten percent. If we want to really follow ever element of the scripture, then we should be giving 25% or more. There were several different type of tithes mentioned in the bible and they all referred to food, not money. Money was only mentioned for free will offering.
Asuhigo 2 years ago
I agree with digtaflava, tithing is not scriptual. What does the apostle Paul say ,make your mind up what your to give and at the end of the week give it,it's a no brainer mate.
c3cmore 2 years ago
Good for you - BUT - Jesus says to the Pharisees that they were doing the right thing to tithe mint and dill and cumin - but that they were failing becasue they neglected weighier matters. I wonder if you could check your point about giving at the end of teh week. It could be that Paul is on the way to deliver the offering for teh famine in Jerusalem and wants to have the offering collected ready.
Peteradvent 2 years ago
The pharisees, no doubt had livestock. Once again, tithe is not money.
Asuhigo 2 years ago
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Imaginefree69 2 years ago
can you please tell me where can I buy this video with a best resolution, i would like to show it in my congregation
hooleeahn 2 years ago
Anyone else got a view on this? I was suggesting the idea that there is a general requirement on the part of the Christian to support God's work and people with our money - as well as our heart.
Peteradvent 3 years ago
We do appreciate you showing this video in all honesty. It shows your point of view and I do admire your commitment of giving to Christ, but let it be just that. Giving from your heart because of the one who set you free, not out of compulsion because you think you will be robbing God. That's not grace then...that's the law which Jesus died to free us from in completion of the old covenant. God bless you dear.
Asuhigo 2 years ago
In the Old Testament, the Food and Cattle tithe were used to sustain the Levitical Priesthood and the storehouse tithe was used to sustain the poor widow, the fatherless and the poor strangers that came into the land. There were "NO BILLS" to pay when the tithe was instituted into law, so although this may be a nice video, it is unscriptural. Lets not be carnal minded and just focus on the fact that the video is nice and well put together, but live by every word that comes out of Yahweh's mouth.
digitalflava 3 years ago
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Regardless of what this video says, it is not scriptural. It would not even matter if the tithes were used to feed the poor or homeless, that still does not change the fact that there is no where in scripture where New Testament believers are commanded to tithe and especially do it financially. It is not scriptural. Its like the fictional story of Robin Hood. He stole from the rich and gave to the poor. My point? He indeed blessed the poor, but he had to "sin" in order to do it. Obey the Bible.
digitalflava 3 years ago
i agree...you people who give money has been bewithched. This is a fantasy film. You people got to wake up!!! When you make extra money go to your neighbor and drop off some groceries and leave quickly when you place it on their step.
aubhar 3 years ago
AMEN!!!
digitalflava 3 years ago
Your tithes and offerings go to God, if that's who you intend it to go to.
If someone steals from the tithes and offerings, let God deal with them
is there any spirituality on youtube? come on-- you have these people saying, don't go to church, don't pay tithes, don't do this...don't do that-- think about what would happen if we didn't
DivinelyGifted 3 years ago
Regardless of what this video says, it is not scriptural. It would not even matter if the tithes were used to feed the poor or homeless, that still does not change the fact that there is no where in scripture where New Testament believers are commanded to tithe and especially do it financially. It is not scriptural. Its like the fictional story of Robin Hood. He stole from the rich and gave to the poor. My point? He indeed blessed the poor, but he had to "sin" in order to do it. Obey the Bible.
digitalflava 3 years ago
Not trying to create an argument - but as Christians we are to respond to God with our money as well as our hearts - while Jesus commends 'the opposition' for their tithe giving at the same time as reminding them of deeper duties towards God. Have a look at Matthew 23:23. God bless you
Peteradvent 3 years ago
Not trying to start an arguement here either, but I am well familiar with that scripture and I can with all truth say that it is not a commandment to the New Testament church to tithe. The Jews in which Jesus was talking to were still under the Mosaic law. The New Covenant had not been established yet. But lets just say that Matthew 23: 23 was referring us today. Then that would mean that we are to tithe with mint and cummin (herbs). Still no monetary requirement no matter how you look at it.
digitalflava 3 years ago
It's a great video but that's not what is happening at majority of churches in America. They are too worried about prospering themselves:(
TreasureChrist 3 years ago
I wish it were one I had made. More of my videos? peteradvent is my channel - look for adventist and jeynes - you will find me there. The video is very gentle but hard hitting. Peter
Peteradvent 3 years ago
This is an awsome video, hope you have more of this kind of material...
1801superman 3 years ago