@Kevizzle05 don't you think Vettel has a better car than Webber ? and I'll tell you something , Alonso was signed by Ferrari for Santander Bank , the most important sponsor after Marlboro leaves the F1 , and Santander Bank is a Spanish Bank , they want to see Alonso in top positions , not a Brazilian or another car of the team , they are paying for Alonso , so Massa haven't got the same car.
About ferrari : do you think alonso did have a better car in the beginning of his career at ferrari ?
I think the cars were the same because massa were over there for a long time and he wouldnt accept it to be a second driver without alonso showing his abilities ( what he clearly showed us the past 2 season at ferrari)
I dont want to argue about the santander issue : i didnt kno any of that but it makes sense tho'
@Kevizzle05 Santander also has a large South American market (you know, where some of the countries speak Spanish), so it makes no sense that they would back one driver over the other.
@sampras19 And about Vettel : I think vettel is a fraud ! After f1 started to lose money due to schumachers retirement they needed a new source of money : Vettel .. He has been a second driver for over 5 yrs and all off a sudden he comes is , and is taking all the titels ... screw that , i rather watched schumacher taking all the title's with dirty play , vettel just drives away and wins ... very very lame
@Kevizzle05 the fact is that Alonso has a better car than Massa because Santander is paying for Alonso and not for Massa , and Vettel has the best car , that's why he always win , but the car doesn't move by itself , so Vettel is not as bad as you think. and I can stand with people who say Schumacher was a cheater , where do you live ? on mars ? I don't want to start another fight with Schumacher's haters , if you don't like him do not mention him.
@sampras19 As far as i know i said dirty play, I dont know where you from but we dont cosider that as cheating..
Besides that i think schumacher is one of the greatest driver ,just as alonso and hamilton, So i dont know why you think im a hater (I'm from 91 so i've never seen drivers as senna , prost , lauda etc. )...
@Kevizzle05 I took it negative because or you hate Schumi or you love him. he is one of my fauvorites drivers , and one of the greatest of all time beside Fangio , Senna and Clark.
@Kevizzle05 you make a point there, vettel is indeed a very lame driver, who has no charisma whatsoever, he only drives fast rounds in the front, he is not a fighter like kobayashi, kubica or a hamilton
@lekkerereet It's called a performance gap. Vettel is simply performing better than the rest. But people hated Schumi as well for winning all the time. I guess it's natural to resent a gifted talent who does things with ease where others have to struggle a lot more.
@lekkerereet you have no idea what you are talking about, vettel is a very funny and down to earth person. have you seen him at Top gear ore other talking shows? he is always himself and is always in for a joke. kubica hamilton and kobayashi have to fight to get up to p1, vettel was already there because of his poles and good car this year. and didn''t he fight at monza 2008? where he defeated hamilton and kubica i a torro rosso?!
@lambosforusal He started from pole in Monza 2008, and most of his actual competitors were low down on the grid. That said, it was still a fine performance. People criticised D.Hill for the same thing: always winning from pole or the front row in the best car. I recognise Vettel as amongst the best drivers but it'd be nice to see RB being challenged more often.
@darthbandon10 Well we talk again when vettel doesnt have a car like he has now .. When he's pushed to the midfield in a race he crackes all the time .
replace alonso the scum with kobayashi, ferrari would probably win the constructors title with the both of them then alonso who thinks his a 1 man team.
@Kyle1851 Definitely. Although it could of been better for them, they were actually gonna catch a podium. But Massa had a small crash that put him in the back and Kobayashi's pit strategy failed.
@Arai4lpinestars That is a very poorly stated question. There are millions of correct answers to that. They are men, F1 drivers, under 40 years old, dark hair, have teeth, ears, eyes, arms etc.
And what a fantastic race it was. Jenson did a great job, but for me, it was Felipe's race with Kobayashi that made me smile. After laps and laps, they fought. At the last corner Kobayashi ahead and Massa got him on the line! Excellent.
@OlechkaRus its a good idea but if Alonso was with vettel it would be like bringing the old days of shumaker and barichello :), Alonso and vettel , first and second every race, althought i am not that big fan of vettel but he is good
this must be to do with there photo finish
bethsqeak 6 days ago
Alonso and Kobayashi for 2013, give him a team mate that will not play NO.2 again, mwahahaha!
FORZA KAMUI!!!
xRapidClaWx 1 month ago 2
@xRapidClaWx It's a long shot but apparently Kubica's being eyed by Ferrari. I'd rather see that to be honest.
blainyrules 2 weeks ago
perhaps it will be an exchange massa in sauber an perez in ferrari
az091632 2 months ago
That finish was amazing... I couldn't breath at that moment lol
kynigh 3 months ago
kobayashi will be a world champ one day !
xXLEW1Sx 3 months ago 3
@xXLEW1Sx
I hope it :) .....
4JUGE4 1 month ago
@jessthebear3969 everyone in that seat would do the same or less than Massa.
sampras19 3 months ago
@sampras19 except for alonso
Kevizzle05 3 months ago
@Kevizzle05 Alonso has a better car than Massa and that's obvious
sampras19 3 months ago
@sampras19 You mean like vettel has a better car then webber ?
Sorry but no thats not true ..
Kevizzle05 3 months ago
@Kevizzle05 don't you think Vettel has a better car than Webber ? and I'll tell you something , Alonso was signed by Ferrari for Santander Bank , the most important sponsor after Marlboro leaves the F1 , and Santander Bank is a Spanish Bank , they want to see Alonso in top positions , not a Brazilian or another car of the team , they are paying for Alonso , so Massa haven't got the same car.
sampras19 3 months ago
@sampras19
About ferrari : do you think alonso did have a better car in the beginning of his career at ferrari ?
I think the cars were the same because massa were over there for a long time and he wouldnt accept it to be a second driver without alonso showing his abilities ( what he clearly showed us the past 2 season at ferrari)
I dont want to argue about the santander issue : i didnt kno any of that but it makes sense tho'
Kevizzle05 3 months ago
@Kevizzle05 Santander also has a large South American market (you know, where some of the countries speak Spanish), so it makes no sense that they would back one driver over the other.
darthbandon10 2 weeks ago
@darthbandon10 True
Kevizzle05 1 week ago
@sampras19 And about Vettel : I think vettel is a fraud ! After f1 started to lose money due to schumachers retirement they needed a new source of money : Vettel .. He has been a second driver for over 5 yrs and all off a sudden he comes is , and is taking all the titels ... screw that , i rather watched schumacher taking all the title's with dirty play , vettel just drives away and wins ... very very lame
Kevizzle05 3 months ago
@Kevizzle05 the fact is that Alonso has a better car than Massa because Santander is paying for Alonso and not for Massa , and Vettel has the best car , that's why he always win , but the car doesn't move by itself , so Vettel is not as bad as you think. and I can stand with people who say Schumacher was a cheater , where do you live ? on mars ? I don't want to start another fight with Schumacher's haters , if you don't like him do not mention him.
sampras19 3 months ago
@sampras19 As far as i know i said dirty play, I dont know where you from but we dont cosider that as cheating..
Besides that i think schumacher is one of the greatest driver ,just as alonso and hamilton, So i dont know why you think im a hater (I'm from 91 so i've never seen drivers as senna , prost , lauda etc. )...
Why do you take everything i say as negative ?
Kevizzle05 3 months ago
@Kevizzle05 I took it negative because or you hate Schumi or you love him. he is one of my fauvorites drivers , and one of the greatest of all time beside Fangio , Senna and Clark.
sampras19 3 months ago
@Kevizzle05 you make a point there, vettel is indeed a very lame driver, who has no charisma whatsoever, he only drives fast rounds in the front, he is not a fighter like kobayashi, kubica or a hamilton
lekkerereet 2 months ago
@lekkerereet It's called a performance gap. Vettel is simply performing better than the rest. But people hated Schumi as well for winning all the time. I guess it's natural to resent a gifted talent who does things with ease where others have to struggle a lot more.
AshTheMohican 2 months ago 2
@lekkerereet you have no idea what you are talking about, vettel is a very funny and down to earth person. have you seen him at Top gear ore other talking shows? he is always himself and is always in for a joke. kubica hamilton and kobayashi have to fight to get up to p1, vettel was already there because of his poles and good car this year. and didn''t he fight at monza 2008? where he defeated hamilton and kubica i a torro rosso?!
lambosforusal 2 months ago
@lambosforusal He started from pole in Monza 2008, and most of his actual competitors were low down on the grid. That said, it was still a fine performance. People criticised D.Hill for the same thing: always winning from pole or the front row in the best car. I recognise Vettel as amongst the best drivers but it'd be nice to see RB being challenged more often.
darthbandon10 2 weeks ago
@darthbandon10 Well we talk again when vettel doesnt have a car like he has now .. When he's pushed to the midfield in a race he crackes all the time .
Kevizzle05 1 week ago
@jessthebear3969 No problem, in 2013 Perez will be in Ferrari, so Massa can be with Kobayashi in Sauber.
IntermitenciaMental 3 months ago
Great moment.
NOTHlNG 4 months ago
Massa en koba sauber 2012 or 13 would be good! Massa would get more respect and teammate who respect eatchother way more.
ShaolinKungfuArnhem 5 months ago
what happen?
seiiholm 5 months ago
@seiiholm Kobayashi was ahead of Massa on the last lap. Massa basically overtook Kobayashi on the finish line and beat him by 0.045 seconds.
Slashbag69 4 months ago
no he said,you are Rocket!,
BURSTBOXSTER 5 months ago
replace alonso the scum with kobayashi, ferrari would probably win the constructors title with the both of them then alonso who thinks his a 1 man team.
BrotherYounis 6 months ago 7
@BrotherYounis unfortunately you don't just replace someone of Alonso's calibre overnight. Replacing kobayashi with alonso isn't a gain for ferrari .
jraybay 4 months ago
I think he said "heartbroken" but im not sure.
sami0812 6 months ago
@sami0812 no he said, you are lucky, or you have luck
Sanderrr1994 6 months ago
@Sanderrr1994 or you got lucky
Sanderrr1994 6 months ago
This was probably the best race of the year for both of these guys.
Kyle1851 7 months ago
@Kyle1851 Definitely. Although it could of been better for them, they were actually gonna catch a podium. But Massa had a small crash that put him in the back and Kobayashi's pit strategy failed.
NASCARWWEclubpenguin 4 months ago
Trivia question: Felipe and Kamui have something in common, what is it?
Arai4lpinestars 7 months ago
@Arai4lpinestars That is a very poorly stated question. There are millions of correct answers to that. They are men, F1 drivers, under 40 years old, dark hair, have teeth, ears, eyes, arms etc.
Lolzilol123 4 months ago
@Lolzilol123 The ONLY ANSWER is: They are both Formula Renault 2.0 Italia champions
Arai4lpinestars 4 months ago
@Arai4lpinestars I can't tell if you're joking with your "ONLY ANSWER", but I'll just assume so. I actually did know that :)
Lolzilol123 4 months ago
@Lolzilol123 if you knew it, why didn't you answer?
Arai4lpinestars 4 months ago
@Arai4lpinestars You're shitting me, right?
Lolzilol123 4 months ago
Massa said to himself "If I have not overtaken you, you would have had my race seat in 2012" =)
Arai4lpinestars 7 months ago
thanks for the upload.
BrotherYounis 7 months ago
And what a fantastic race it was. Jenson did a great job, but for me, it was Felipe's race with Kobayashi that made me smile. After laps and laps, they fought. At the last corner Kobayashi ahead and Massa got him on the line! Excellent.
nickJod1234 8 months ago 2
what did kobayashi said anybody knows
ariell92 8 months ago
@ariell92
he said "you got lucky" as a joke
freshcelery 7 months ago
massa and kobayashi would be a great team
Schalkebeste 8 months ago 87
@Schalkebeste would be great Ferrari team-mates =)))
OlechkaRus 8 months ago 53
@OlechkaRus its a good idea but if Alonso was with vettel it would be like bringing the old days of shumaker and barichello :), Alonso and vettel , first and second every race, althought i am not that big fan of vettel but he is good
TheF1Driver1 7 months ago
@OlechkaRus still the best team for a long time were kimi and massa in 2007/2008, fantastic team mates...
4evermassa 3 months ago 2
@OlechkaRus Sauber team-mates maybe hahahaha
kikecacique 3 months ago
@Schalkebeste yeah deffenent
khanasif012 3 months ago
@Schalkebeste Kobi would kick his ass. :3
sjmaco 5 days ago