Blizzcon 2011 : Terran new units Starcraft 2 heart of the swarm

[TehGenie]

god i hate siege tanks...

[nikel3161]

I cant wait to drop 3 shredders into some zerg mineral lines early game, they will vaporize everything!!

[rakgitarmen]

Terran definitely gets the better end of the deal while Protoss gets the most ineffective and boring units.

[Loojit]

@rakgitarmen Agreed

[Etheot]

Pplayers complain about terran even if its nerfed they nerfed terran so much that it is shit now but they still complain !

[Loojit]

@Etheot How did they nerf terran ? 

[Rhaycarl]

How is Zerg possibly supposed to beat that Shredder. Stacking 4-5 of those eliminates any potential for the Z to move, anywhere. This game took a serious down turn.

[IceHarmony]

why can't they admit that the thor has no use in the game?

bin it all ready, i don't wanna see people attacking with a 1-cap unit that kill 100 units with the click of a button

[YZB25]

finally there's an effective counter for mutalisk harassment. But I feel like with all these units marines have become virtually useless!

[wamyx8Nz]

Blizzard's been watching way too much transformers. Seriously I think the siege tank is like the last terran ground unit that doesn't walk. Having almost every single mech unit be some variation on a pseudo anthropomorphic walker is boring as shit. One walker unit is fine, 3 is overkill. Stop trying to make the mech look like a slightly bigger version of a bio unit. Stuff like the battle hellion is just too goofy looking to take seriously. It looks more like a toy than a fighting machine.

[leafblight27]

"without fundamentally destabilizing the game" I'd like to see three photon cannons kill thirty zerglings before they can get halfway past them.

[Loojit]

@leafblight27 No kidding

[GoldenSilence333]

I play terran, and those units look OP as s***

[Loojit]

@GoldenSilence333 Thank you soooo much for admitting that. I really wonder why some terran players find it hard to admit when its so obvious. It's not liek we're picking on terran when zerg/toss say certain units are OP...they just really are

[labtec514]

How about cry less and l2p more.

[PublicEnemy04]

Damn...and here i thought the terran couldn't be any more OP...

[dbitch]

that crowd probably have not played multiplayer zerg needs a buff on every aspect, for example in its defense. terrans and protoss have got too many possibilities compared to zerg. the swarm needs a damn buff.

[theRacer3396]

i think is saw the new TvT

battlehellion/warhound

[snyperiflex]

Cater to people who want an uber unit

He meant cater to terran

[Wowaddict1701]

They really don't know what the fuck they're doing anymore, do they?

[madsbs123]

5:50 YES!

[DaemonArusei]

Upgrade the MS, Keep it and also make a Thor similar as well as an Uber Zerg unit.

[JetrugR]

Can't wait to try out some shredder drops into the mineral field.

[lukesterbear]

poop

[TheDarkElfKing]

So no more Thors :(.Just one.

[XZeRoDNA]

MVP probably just came in his pants just now.

[iAxX23]

Wait wait wait this is bullshit.

The Shredders should attack allied units if they get in the field ! 

[2006impreza]

fuk the shredder

[rickvangils100]

fck this, terran buffs -.-

[iliketha]

lots of people complain marines are op, so cheap can attack ground and air. Hmmm what should we do? create bigger marines, massive walkers which outrange everything and are good vs ground and air, that way ppl have something to spend their gas on when they are massing marines, we'll call them BIG MARINES! no, WARHOUNDS! that's much better!

[iliketha]

they are fucking over protoss taking carriers, yes they filled a specific role, barely used. But barely isn't never - now they have no air units good vs mass light ground units, terran can build BCs, zerg can build BLs, the new protoss capital ship is supposed to have a weak air to ground weapon, so you pretty much rely on ground units now, you can't go for air superiority.

[MaxMax970]

"shredder-cheese" will be so FUCKING annoying

[Enballgroda1]

God I miss that map, whatever it's name is they displayed the hellions on.

[DarkMoon309]

mother of god =.=, T will have another tanker =.= , a fuking buff mech - warhound ==. and P ( my fav race ) got anti light air unit, block mineral , and copy another unit of other races . sounds very balance to me :)

[SC2TeamNuklear]

@DarkMoon309 yeh and the protoss got the OP nexus upgrades. why does every one complain about terran being imba?

[DarkMoon309]

those 2 nexus upgrades r in WoL. not new and not OP :) . T is op, becoz T can have the same income with 70 drones , 3 hatch(s) with 30-40 SCV (?!) and 2 OC ? using the most basic units to beat the shit out of all highest tech units ? Ghost snipe vs Z ?! have u tried ? and so much more to tell .... hahaha .

[KAmaKAsa1]

@SC2TeamNuklear cuz people like to complain about terran no matter what happens

[erlendmf]

tvt = warhound vs warhound

[Blademastell]

Now Terran got Nukes AND a über Thor AND Warhound. This is messed up. Zerg got some cool units too. Protoss ( my fav race ) lost mothership AND carriers. THIS IS MESSED UP xD xD i hope i will survive in ladder

[robrobinson831]

So I've always viewed Hellions as being primarily used for harassment. You build half a dozen, use them for drops micro them around the enemies base. And once you reach the later stages you transition into something a little harder hitting. Now they are giving them a battle upgrade to make them a late game troop as well? Aren't they supposed to be one of those risk/reward units? I say Blizzard needs to get the game balanced a little better before they throw in a whole bunch of new units...

[MyMrSuperstar]

im a terran player, but from what im looking at the shredder will be one of those units that can change a game way too easily.

Planting them all over the map, dropping them at an enemy base in early game. Will it also attack air? will it also attack air? i dunno, seems very sketchy.

[MrAsild]

hum we're talking about blizzard... I'm more worried about borrowed baneling that can move in the underground or protoss that can copy any units.

The game will be balanced after some patches so stop "imba, terran op, imba, imba, imba" the game evolve.

[mattzero1986]

Mother fucking op bull shit. They took care of the terran in this add on and thats it.

[soIgottheflow]

OP

[DurNizzle]

this new shredder is op, so many lings wiped out can't even runby

[Lopiny]

From what I see...

Shredders + Medivacs + Zerg base = SO MUCH BLOOD!

[Straif5]

So they've got a new one called the "Warhound". Hmmm...like a promantu of Mech Warrior and Chrome Hounds...both mech combat games. And the Warhound is a mech.

[drizzt7dourden7]

omg now i can see a line of shrederers crossing the map adn destroying EVERYTHING

[SolarCreator]

Terransformers

[MuRAKiSc2SpecOpS]

omg i am a zerg player and i shitted in my pantis after seeing this vid T.T

[neberboi]

Maruders kill all protoss ground except zealot. now war hound does the same thing. talk about over kill

[2Pains1Love]

@neberboi Actually, marauders pretty much slay zealots...if you can do some "basic"control-basic, not really, REALLY good control...

[Fleshgin]

And the shredder as direct counter to crappy swarm hosts. Great.

[1212ofomyzrc]

lol why does everyone gotta hate on terran i mean common they are human beings they deserve to be OP lol. without mech terrans are weak lol

[JDivinorumVideo]

LOL people cheer as Terran gets more OP units like the Shredder. Then Dustin says "sorry Nestea". I wonder what race the Blizzard employees play. I guess the P;anetary Fortress and Missile Turrets weren't good enough. So, Terran gets 4 new units basically and Zerg gets 2. Isn't this the Zerg expansion?

[frewerage]

Hellion - helps with BBQ, warhound helps with skewing the food, then top up with some cheese Shredder = perfect Bling-B-Q

[TheSecretCobra]

Terran doesn't need any more map control, Stanks already have a range of 13; Give the Shredder to Zerg and rename it Toxic Creep Generator or give us back Lurkers.

I can just imagine Terran setting these up right in front of my base and then using the range of Stanks to kill my Natural.

[Calhoun362]

I like the shredder, my favorite out of them all. Sure will help for defense....

[sundaysorrow]

as if the terran bunker wasnt good enough!?

[oicwutudidder]

terran is not that op. Im not terran i play protoss. There will prolly be nerfs, so chill out guys. at least blizzard made your favorite game.

[Osvath97]

Why couldnt hey just re-added Goliath? I understand why, but still!

[Osvath97]

Warhounds = Goliath. Kinda.

[sundaysorrow]

@Osvath97 i dont understand why they just didnt bring it back ( Goliath)

[Osvath97]

@sundaysorrow Becouse it would sound cheap if they did, since it is old content.

[IMpinGy]

Warhounds is going to be ridiculously OP... knowing how Terran tech tree is ridiculously tiny with switching add-ons, I can see the end to TvP stability as well the end to Muta harass

Shredders - the end of to any run bys

Battle-Hellion - sounds like freakin' reapers all over again

So basically what Blizzard is doing is deathball versus deathball. ARE YOU FUCKING RETARDED?!!!

[JDivinorumVideo]

@IMpinGy I agree. Blizzard is failing hard with this expansion. Zerg is totally screwed over. Might as well just make Terran units invincible. They can already heal and repair while they fight.

[luis9211]

people so funny saying " terran is op", in korea at the pro levels terran is op, but at the foreigner scene and the eu, na ladder zerg and protoss dominates, and you arent korean so stop qq

[2Pains1Love]

@luis9211 Actually, I'm korean so I think you better shush

[JDivinorumVideo]

I have an idea, since this is the Zerg expansion, Blizzard should focus on giving Terran as many new units as possible and forget about Zerg. Also, they should nerf Neural Parasite so the range is 2.

[Jollyranchr]

@JDivinorumVideo Hahaha

[NickHou82]

Zerg units

[aidanderson53X]

omfg new hellion can kill off the zerg very early, the warhound can kill off protoss even better than maruders. warhound needs to have 5 range cuz it outranges imortals and stalkers which is terrible

[Sniff4eg]

@aidanderson53X oh yeah. so when all ter can do is build mass troops with over 9k apm - it's ok, and when toss will have to use his units smarter - thats op? why... immortals ore friggin amazing. 50 dmg... thats crazy.

[ZeroD3lta]

@Sniff4eg This is totally from someone who doesn't know what they are talking about. Immortals cost 250 minerals and 100 gas for a unit that does 50 damage single target while tanks and marauders are 125 125 and 100 25 respectively. Marauders are already good against Protoss because of anti-armor. Terrans do not, I repeat do not, require 9k apm even if you wished that were the case. I already have to use my units incredibly efficiently versus Terran, and you say I need smarter control?

[2Pains1Love]

@Sniff4eg LOL, Terrans are not that good so I guess that's why almost all Korean progamers shout "TERRAN'S OP" (including fruit dealer, nestea, and others)

[Sniff4eg]

@2Pains1Love but why they just add something which worthier than thor with aoe AlightA attack when ter needs anti-heavy-air attack unit? like goliaph? wtf

[2Pains1Love]

@Sniff4eg .....so Viking is not good-enough anti-heavy-air attack unit? -_-

[Sniff4eg]

@2Pains1Love well, u know... it has very long range and good dps... but it can get killed really fast and easy

[Sniff4eg]

@2Pains1Love and yeah. tell me. which terran unit will counter toss colossi when he would have 5 tempest with his army? viking will get 3 shoted. all marines will get killed by colossi. and thoose... warhouds with anti-light-air will get pwned by tempests... so... what to do? battlecruisers? stalkers will deal with em...

[2Pains1Love]

@Sniff4eg Tempests? Tempests are the final, 3 tier unit and Vikings are 2 tier unit. I think your comparison is way too wrong. And besides Vikings vs. Tempests problem, why do you want to make marines when toss has colossi? What you're saying is just like: "Oh crap I spawned zerglings and they were SLAIN by hellions"

.....I mean, seriously?

Also, I don't think vikings will have to worry about tempests, since it seems like tempests are heavy armored and vikings RAPE the heavy armored units

[2Pains1Love]

@Sniff4eg So, I think when Toss is colossi+tempest, I'm pretty sure Terran can encounter with Tank+Viking+Ghost(and maybe some marauders) it seems Viking has much longer range than Tempest, so with little micro, vikings will be able to cleanse out tempests first or snipe some colossi out from the tempests' range. Ghost's emp will make terran's job much easier, of course.(Remember, Tempest and Colossi are all 3 tier, but tank, viking and marauder are 2 tier)

[Sniff4eg]

@2Pains1Love huh... maybe u right... well, will see :D i just looks kinda stupid for me. i wanted goliaphs in multi instead of warhounds

[ingofreak]

@aidanderson53X as soon as you said "cuz" your argument became invalid.

[KAmaKAsa1]

@aidanderson53X stuuuupiiiiiiiid

[MrLurre95]

@aidanderson53X toos can now have thire own tanks and zerg can borrow bainlings in to mineral line and ultra charge on to tanks and those lurker units can also brake seige line and you say terran is having it good? L2p

[exonerator]

"Give them any unit without fundamentally destabilising the game"

BITCH PLEASE.

Terran always been blizzard pet. Those hellions not die? So now Terran can end game in 5min against Zerg by just going behind min field and transforming into some indestrutible thing? And Protoss army just gonna get owned by a 7 range antimech even though normal marauder already has OP dmg to kill off entire stalker/colos armies with 0 micro?

[ImDeathNote]

@Sekatathefag kk can you stop crying please? and get a life outside with your friends? oops im sorry if you have none

[ImDeathNote]

@Sekatathefag xD umadbro then cry me a river btw how did you find all these insults omg its probably what you are

[ImDeathNote]

@Sekatathefag haha funny old man btw... why are you talking about you? (taiwan doggy)

[ImDeathNote]

@Sekatathefag i love how you spend all your time on youtube and calling tawainese = nazi

[ImDeathNote]

@Sekatathefag im not like you ... i have one

tawainese dog

[ImDeathNote]

@Sekatathefag pls dont make me repeat... suck my dick 

[itsWAZZA1]

i swear terran are so op, really do they need hellions like that? wtf is happening the only thing i thought was op was the mules but these seem ridiculous

[ImDeathNote]

well well look like im not gonna buy HOTS since its still gonna be a gay popularity system you guys can suck my dick

[blizardlover]

i like the new units cant wait to find out the stariges

[jcjs95]

i don't see what's so bad, as a zerg player i actually like that new stuff

[zerghalo2]

@jcjs95 You like the free weaker-zerglinglike-spweing Swarm Host better than Sieging Lurker? Perhaps not enough zerg playing

[killazintrainin]

hey why not remove the protoss and zerg races all together and we can just call this game TERRANCRAFT cause thatss all its turning out to be

[JDivinorumVideo]

The Infestor should get a 9 range Neural Parasite spell instead of garbage that no one researches. Fix your website Blizzard. You can't counter a Colossus with a 7-range Neural Parasite.

[zupugi]

I liked spider mines better then the shredder...

[Wijrobloxian]

all P needs is 1 or 2 more anti-armor units really nothing else really

[Wijrobloxian]

... TvP get warhounds and all of a sudden WE DIE GOD TvP is even MORE Imbalanced now thx alot blizzard u retards

[cancan460]

0:54 transformers!@!@

[ricearoni126]

is that david kim talking about the warhound????

[superford500]

can the mother ship transform into a fathership? like a giant penis?and fire loads of sticky cream on everyone.

[babarian34]

Awesome! So terrans get ANOTHER mech unit (can't have to many of 'em!) and another unit (the buggy )gets the ability to turn into a mech (the transformation is way more silly than any other).

Creativity was never Blizzard strength, but this is a new low.

[Andreazor]

@babarian34

Could you do better?

Terran have a mech thing going as a race. It's their thing now. Man, Blizzard really has found the most self-absorbed morons with the biggest sense of entitlement in the fucking world to be bitching about shit like this.

[McNistor]

the warhound looks like crap. most SC1 units look cooler due to their modern hi-tech design. SC2 is taking place in the past apparently :P

[GrillinsGrillo]

man... so confusing!!-- xD...... try to be upwards to a new game... but it still the same... I PREFER.... WINGS OF LIBERTY....old times better!!!

[GrillinsGrillo]

Nova... the new Sarah Kerigan =)!!

[sonofafraggedbitch]

there's your feedback dear Blizzard:

bring back firebats and gols plz

no, keep the wraiths, thx

[48tank]

u dont need ground units when u got shreders ......

[siegel191]

another thing i wounder is do we have to reserch the trasformation like the tank or will it be like the viking and just be there??

[siegel191]

i love theses transformations . i just wish they had the medicvac to trasform and have an asume ability too. i was thinking either double heal or detector. any 1 have better idea?

[zerghalo2]

@siegel191 Yeah, better bring back Firebat and Goliath and say: "Srry guys, we just run out of ideas. Have fun!. . . you get the Lurker too, btw"

[siegel191]

@zerghalo2 well i was asking about things u think would be cool to add not bring backs.

[zerghalo2]

@siegel191 Bringbacks would be cooler than failed innovation. Good thing they're trying. TRY.HARDER.

[DannRobertYu]

if you guys watch pro games, once the protoss got thier ball of death they are completely/ almost unstoppable, the warhound, battle hellion is the answer to this, because terran units become shit during late game

[LordTenebrus]

@DannRobertYu

Uhm sorry...are we watching the same game? Because bio with ghosts or vikings (depends on comp) is nearly impossible to stop. That's why lately the GSL is all TvT...all the time.

[Nemesis0300]

Just when I though the Terran were overpowered, they just made them gods.

[AquaPhoenix2006]

@Nemesis0300 How so?

[Smubbs]

@Nemesis0300 whaaaat?? Terran are by far the most underpowered.

[Mangaman1100]

DAMN! These new units look AMAZING! And shredder is just beautiful!

[feralstryke]

super high elf - 2:50

[Sownsful2]

Ultra, hypeR OP >_<

[Danny34523465]

Battle hellion/warhound will be so op to protoss. Warhound rapes most protoss units cuz they are mostly mechanical except zealot. Even if you send zealots battle hellions would rape. Try air? Warhound still has tah AoE air attack. Archons? Who the fuck goes mass all in archons. Darkt templars? Scanned. Carriers? Yea they were removed. Fuck this shit i quit protoss if this is how it goes

[Danny34523465]

Zomg this is what i see

Mass zealot -- raped by battle hellion

Bring stalker and immortal to counter

Raped by warhound

Shredder drop in my probe line

Fuck

Super thor comes with the op hellion/warhound army

Mass void rays? Hardcore raped by warhounds

Rage Quit

Switch to Terran

[AquaPhoenix2006]

@Danny34523465 Shredders don't do much damage to light, they deal damage to bio. They're only useful with Zerg, not Toss

[alexx120289]

@Danny34523465

Easy solution.

Make replicant - Copy SCV - Get OC - MULE MULE MULE

= Chrono Boost + Mule + Scan

1 day later - GM Protoss

[Disturbedfreak2013]

soooooo it;s like an immortal...

[NgohOiNei]

Imagine bunker rushes, but with the shredder. Fuck that shit.

[CapitaineRex69]

Ok terran already have a lot of units, and now + 3units...Zerg = +2 and Protoss= +3 -2=1...

[monkeymac3]

Protoss doesn't get jack shit: The Game

[LittlePokeDigi]

Hellion = Firebat , Warhound = Goliath

[MoonliteMemory]

Map control:

TERRAN: Siege tanks, shredders

ZERG: Swarm host, burrowed units

PROTOSS: ???

Maaan. :(

[noflaxe]

@MoonliteMemory REPLICANT FTW!

[dualOne01]

@MoonliteMemory Use your Replicants to generate yourself some map controlling units FOOL!

[dannylloll]

@dualOne01 200/200 for ONE map control unit ...

[JohnnieNaked]

Why the FUCK does terran need any new units!?

[shootv2009]

I'm afraid after 'heart of the swarm', there'll be only one race left,Terran.....Even Nestea starts considerring to chance to T.

[MrRobCorso]

We're cheating a little bit with the choke, but you get the idea

and 4 tanks

and 4 times more hellinos

and the fact taht that terran army costs twice as much

[MrRobCorso]

HOLY **** teh shreddar drop would be op

[321123disaster]

0:40 the terrans have just signed a production contract with optimus prime......

[anotherwrld]

14 years to have a hardcore anti-Zerg rush unit for the Terran? Perplexing.

[cancan460]

0:55 TRANSFORMERS!@ oh wait....

[CreatingDrake]

To me Protoss will always be OP as long as they have cannons since cannons own everything

[dragoons9009]

The Warhound's cool. But the ingame model sucks.

[wouldonniedingo]

re: shredder, wouldn't it have been easier just to make the radiation do friendly-fire instead of making it have to turn off and on???

[FlamingPieMasterz]

i think there is going to be to much anti zergling zealot marine units in HOTS...

wich is to bad cuz mass zerglings are fun

[FallenGodKratos]

So, take away 2 protoss attacking units, give them 1 attacking unit and a spell caster.

Take away 1 zerg spell caster, buff an attacking unit, and give them 2 spell casters.

I can accept both of those as long as you do something about fucking terran. But noooooo. Buff 2 attacking units, another new one that is good against everything protoss has, and then a defensive unit that looks so fucking op! Put 3 at each choke and you just won the game.

[CoryB52]

seems like there just bringing back the roles that the Goliath and firebat filled in the first game so why not just adjust those units and bring them back.

[fakkeRICH]

@CoryB52 cause that would be worthless. It would be no different

[dualOne01]

@CoryB52 What is the point in having 2 units that do basically the same thing with one being almost useless as a separate unit? The Firebat was outclassed by the Helion because of the required use of an early powerful harassment unit. With the Battle Helion we have both units put into one-Genius. You don’t see much use of the Thors by Terrans as they prefer to use Tanks and mass bio, so this will drive Terrans to change and mix up their play style. Gaming is suppose to go forward not backward.

[SCrefLeX]

@CoryB52 because they're honestly not trying to make a sc1 with better graphics. thats terrible game design and isnt what browder was hired to do (recreate sc1 as best as possible).

sc2 will never do well if its really just a copy of what came before.

[fasin8]

@CoryB52 thats exactly what they did, they brought back the firebat (Battle Helion)....

just tweaked a bit so its more modern..

[asorlonnn]

@CoryB52 exactly, these units already exsist, they are just in the campign,

blizzard, are just running out of ideas to make more money, they should just hold off hoTS

patch Wings of liberty to enable

Goliath, flame bat, becuause i am sure, somewhere in the fucking sc2 coding, there is a sleeping goliath and firebat,

Once my unit tech tree glitched and i saw all the units avalible through single player,

there are like 5 different battle cruisers and another thor called odin...

[CFrostyTheSnowman]

@CoryB52 Because that isn't blizzards style and I'm glad of it personally.

[startingsprinter]

@CoryB52 try imagining them as the same units, just with different names.

[Gatman900FTW]

Seems like David wants everything to be strong against protoss xD

[Moneyinconstruction]

0:40 transformers had dominated starcraft

[Rurike]

@Moneyinconstruction terran anyway

[Ghooostie]

The shredder doesn't seem OP at all -.-

[jjosmith]

shredder seems like an unfair counter to DTs atm

[ThaDamian]

shredder drops

[ironmana112]

hell yea for the shredder now i dont havve to wall off zerg rushes i can jst deploy this bad boys and boom thoose lings are gone! :D

[jonasgrant]

The guy talking is a Goliath pilot xD

[historicallyfiction]

MAKE THE WARHOUND MORE PRETTY

[Dachefmanney]

whitera has to switch to terran^^