Dec 4, 1619 A group of settlers from Bristol, England, arrived at Berkeley Hundred in present-day Charles City County, Va., where they held a service thanking God for their safe arrival. Some suggest this was the true first Thanksgiving in America, ahead of the Pilgrims' arrival in Massachusetts.
Lol, I've been duked! I honestly thought the "Real History of Thanksgiving" would be told. Those deseased ridden, bible busting so called Puritans or Pilgrims pillaged, raped & murdered the native americans AFTER they learned how to live off THEIR land. That's because of the "priviledged white mentality" these people posess. You can't "DISCOVER" a land that's already inhabited. These "devils" always conquer & destroy other races lands and or ideas and pass it off as "Theirs", smh
Seriously? you must be reading the 1972 version of history not what really happened, if you are even remotely interested in the truth you will go back to 1637 before Jamestown was even a colony to what is now Groton Connecticut...where 700 native men women & children were awoken to be burned, beaten tortured and then the pilgrims GAVE THANKS for that slaughter which is when the REAL first thanksgiving started...ignorance=lack of education
Seriously? you must be reading the 1972 version of history not what really happened, if you are even remotely interested in the truth you will go back to 1637 before Jamestown was even a colony to what is now Groton Connecticut...where 700 native men women & children were awoken to be burned, beaten tortured and then the pilgrims GAVE THANKS for that slaughter which is when the REAL first thanksgiving started...ignorance=lack of education
Seriously? you must be reading the 1972 version of history not what really happened, if you are even remotely interested in the truth you will go back to 1637 before Jamestown was even a colony to what is now Groton Connecticut...where 700 native men women & children were awoken to be burned, beaten tortured and then the pilgrims GAVE THANKS for that slaughter which is when the REAL first thanksgiving started...ignorance=lack of education
Ok, lets look at the real first Thanksgiving. No it was not in Jamestown and no it was not a a friendly get together with the Indians and the colonists. The first "Thanksgiving" was a celebration of genocidein 1637 and was celebrated May, 26, 1637 as declared by then Governor John Winthrop (12 January 1588– 26 March 1649 ) after the massacre at Mystic river of 700 Pequot Indians.
first of all what you are saying is bull,the indians where being taken back to europe where they would be sold off as slaves ,the indians tried to save there land but they where massacre ,the indian heads where choped off and kicked down the roads ,this is bull shit,,learn your history assface ....suck some turkey dic
You confuse Plymouth Rock vs Jamestown. What happened in Plymouth Rock is much more complicated. The discontent was caused by bad men that came on the ships, made liquor, spread disease, sold firearms to the Indians and spread conflict as Indian society began to break down.
I mentioned that earlier, I should have been clear sperating the two colonies more. I got lazy and called anyone back then pilgrims. I will make it better next year!
It is so similar it is simply mental masturbation to sit around and explain all the differences for this story. There are no republics and free nations I know of. All countries are socialist transitioning to communism and dictatorships.
This is always what is said as an arguement counterpoint against socialism...that some people end up pulling other's weight...some people work more or less then others. But I don't understand that because no one ever mentions the specifics. So what happens when the people don't work? They still get $400 a week same as the hard workers? No one ever mentions the money and property aspects.
Because if no one does any work, there is no production. There is nothing to buy with those $400.
Maybe it's been mentioned before, this video is confusing the Massachusetts "pilgrims" and the Virginia colonists. The English companies that funded the Virginia colony set up the socialist form for them, and it failed. The Mass pilgrims figured it out before it was too late, as detailed in Bradford's later notes.
So if you're equating the pilgrim societies with communism or socialism and concluding that its the reason why they needed the Indians to bail them out, what would you consider the Indian societies? Or any tribal society? Were they really producing because of the profit motive? They were doing fine before we came.
I mean I don't know much about Native American economics so I'm not being a smart ass but it seems very doubtful to me that humans must be organized in a capitalist way to thrive.
You mean the settlements that led to the US were founded by communists but hijacked by proto-capitalists after they'd surviived where previous efforts had disappeared without trace? It's a provocative insight, but worth contemplating at this time of year.
Jamestown had the first thanksgiving and the Indians lending a hand story comes from Jamestown too. And it was the indians attacking the colonists afterwards, not the colonists attacking the indians. I believe it was deer as well, not turkeys. What you learn in history classes is almost always slightly off.
Get real, man. There has never been a human society that didn't have both public and private -- i.e., both group and individual property. There has never been a human society that didn't have some "non-productives" -- such as small children. Society has always taken care of some "non-productives' without considering it "socialism".
Uhm the pilgrims where up in plymouth Mass. The first english colony though was in Jamestown Va. Eh well just thought I would clear that up a bit sorry for buttin in.
Anything in it's extreme is bad. Too much salt, sugar, carbs, can fatally damage a body. Too much socialism causes some to work less than others for the same benefits. Too much capitalism causes everything, including people and the environs, to be used as a sales commodity; and the practice of building things to break to maximize profits. An equal balance is needed to ensure cooperation and have a healthy productive society who cares about it's citizens instead of being solely profit minded.
Um I think your conflating Jamestown with Plymoth. Thanksgiving is always associated with the Plymoth colony not Jamestown. Your essentially describing Jamestown though the socialist/private property point is valid in both cases, the indians didnt do any violence in Plymoth until 50 years later.
COMPLETE BS
icyhot321 2 months ago
Wow. Sir, you are a complete douchebag.
mywarmplace 2 months ago
U fucn liar
jayvonneful 2 months ago
Nope. Aliens and pilgrims are ALIENS!!
/southpark
BoogsterSU2 2 months ago
Mr. Tarrin Luppo, sir, you are very good looking :)
Thanks for the info!! Very insightful! You taught me something!!
louhale22 2 months ago
The Real Thanksgiving Story" by jstherapeutic
MrCash415 4 months ago
Dec 4, 1619 A group of settlers from Bristol, England, arrived at Berkeley Hundred in present-day Charles City County, Va., where they held a service thanking God for their safe arrival. Some suggest this was the true first Thanksgiving in America, ahead of the Pilgrims' arrival in Massachusetts.
DWPerry78 1 year ago
They talk about the massacre in "Addams Family Values"
Pazrayna 1 year ago
wow.. u r. an idiot
MIXMASHUP 1 year ago
The real Thanksgiving, as it is celebrated today, is to count your blessings and be with your loved ones. Oh, and football.
No need to be guilt ridden over ancient history. Be thankful, count your blessings, enjoy life.
danielngayla 1 year ago
Watch "The Real Thanksgiving Story" by jstherapeutic.....You may learn some real history. It's the most accurate I found.
gasenowah 1 year ago
Lol, I've been duked! I honestly thought the "Real History of Thanksgiving" would be told. Those deseased ridden, bible busting so called Puritans or Pilgrims pillaged, raped & murdered the native americans AFTER they learned how to live off THEIR land. That's because of the "priviledged white mentality" these people posess. You can't "DISCOVER" a land that's already inhabited. These "devils" always conquer & destroy other races lands and or ideas and pass it off as "Theirs", smh
elmcitychick 1 year ago
Seriously? you must be reading the 1972 version of history not what really happened, if you are even remotely interested in the truth you will go back to 1637 before Jamestown was even a colony to what is now Groton Connecticut...where 700 native men women & children were awoken to be burned, beaten tortured and then the pilgrims GAVE THANKS for that slaughter which is when the REAL first thanksgiving started...ignorance=lack of education
jmmartin65 1 year ago
Seriously? you must be reading the 1972 version of history not what really happened, if you are even remotely interested in the truth you will go back to 1637 before Jamestown was even a colony to what is now Groton Connecticut...where 700 native men women & children were awoken to be burned, beaten tortured and then the pilgrims GAVE THANKS for that slaughter which is when the REAL first thanksgiving started...ignorance=lack of education
jmmartin65 1 year ago
Seriously? you must be reading the 1972 version of history not what really happened, if you are even remotely interested in the truth you will go back to 1637 before Jamestown was even a colony to what is now Groton Connecticut...where 700 native men women & children were awoken to be burned, beaten tortured and then the pilgrims GAVE THANKS for that slaughter which is when the REAL first thanksgiving started...ignorance=lack of education
jmmartin65 1 year ago
Ok, lets look at the real first Thanksgiving. No it was not in Jamestown and no it was not a a friendly get together with the Indians and the colonists. The first "Thanksgiving" was a celebration of genocidein 1637 and was celebrated May, 26, 1637 as declared by then Governor John Winthrop (12 January 1588– 26 March 1649 ) after the massacre at Mystic river of 700 Pequot Indians.
filadogmarketing 1 year ago
first of all what you are saying is bull,the indians where being taken back to europe where they would be sold off as slaves ,the indians tried to save there land but they where massacre ,the indian heads where choped off and kicked down the roads ,this is bull shit,,learn your history assface ....suck some turkey dic
deweyordovas 1 year ago
You confuse Plymouth Rock vs Jamestown. What happened in Plymouth Rock is much more complicated. The discontent was caused by bad men that came on the ships, made liquor, spread disease, sold firearms to the Indians and spread conflict as Indian society began to break down.
1isaM111er 2 years ago
I mentioned that earlier, I should have been clear sperating the two colonies more. I got lazy and called anyone back then pilgrims. I will make it better next year!
LCLREPORT 2 years ago
Your credibility went out the window when you said that Socialism and Communism are the same.
foley13579 2 years ago 7
It is so similar it is simply mental masturbation to sit around and explain all the differences for this story. There are no republics and free nations I know of. All countries are socialist transitioning to communism and dictatorships.
LCLREPORT 2 years ago 4
@foley13579 DAMMANOTHER WHITE VERSION OF THIS CRAP
thoostorm4 1 year ago
So what if that was the reason they had little food. How does this change anything?
westerp 2 years ago
wheres the documented proof?
Pitttdog 2 years ago
This is always what is said as an arguement counterpoint against socialism...that some people end up pulling other's weight...some people work more or less then others. But I don't understand that because no one ever mentions the specifics. So what happens when the people don't work? They still get $400 a week same as the hard workers? No one ever mentions the money and property aspects.
TheFutureLooksGrimm 2 years ago 2
Because if no one does any work, there is no production. There is nothing to buy with those $400.
Maybe it's been mentioned before, this video is confusing the Massachusetts "pilgrims" and the Virginia colonists. The English companies that funded the Virginia colony set up the socialist form for them, and it failed. The Mass pilgrims figured it out before it was too late, as detailed in Bradford's later notes.
CurtHowland 2 years ago
So if you're equating the pilgrim societies with communism or socialism and concluding that its the reason why they needed the Indians to bail them out, what would you consider the Indian societies? Or any tribal society? Were they really producing because of the profit motive? They were doing fine before we came.
I mean I don't know much about Native American economics so I'm not being a smart ass but it seems very doubtful to me that humans must be organized in a capitalist way to thrive.
tink037 2 years ago 2
You mean the settlements that led to the US were founded by communists but hijacked by proto-capitalists after they'd surviived where previous efforts had disappeared without trace? It's a provocative insight, but worth contemplating at this time of year.
davepx 2 years ago
Another great production Mr. Lupo!
foxespiritu 2 years ago
Jamestown had the first thanksgiving and the Indians lending a hand story comes from Jamestown too. And it was the indians attacking the colonists afterwards, not the colonists attacking the indians. I believe it was deer as well, not turkeys. What you learn in history classes is almost always slightly off.
brumbinator 2 years ago 4
Get real, man. There has never been a human society that didn't have both public and private -- i.e., both group and individual property. There has never been a human society that didn't have some "non-productives" -- such as small children. Society has always taken care of some "non-productives' without considering it "socialism".
LeslieFish1 2 years ago
When society helps the non productives it is a natural act of kindness.
When the government takes from the society and gives it to the non productives that is socialism.
803honda 2 years ago 2
So what makes the difference is the presence -- and involvement -- of government. Yes, there's nothing like a govt. for scr*wing up a good idea.
LeslieFish1 2 years ago
Uhm the pilgrims where up in plymouth Mass. The first english colony though was in Jamestown Va. Eh well just thought I would clear that up a bit sorry for buttin in.
Michael7893 2 years ago
Actually Jamestown had thanksgiving 3 years before Plymouth. Go to Wikipedia and serach History of Thanksgiving.
LCLREPORT 2 years ago
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803honda 2 years ago
But Jamestown has nothing to do with the separatist and Puritan pilgrims.
thesnakesoup 2 years ago
Snakesoup your right I should have been clearer on that. Time has bastardized me to refer all early settlers as pilgrims
LCLREPORT 2 years ago
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jpshepp 2 years ago
Anything in it's extreme is bad. Too much salt, sugar, carbs, can fatally damage a body. Too much socialism causes some to work less than others for the same benefits. Too much capitalism causes everything, including people and the environs, to be used as a sales commodity; and the practice of building things to break to maximize profits. An equal balance is needed to ensure cooperation and have a healthy productive society who cares about it's citizens instead of being solely profit minded.
Lynx787 2 years ago
Thankful for Tarrin Lupo and LCL Report.
BobbieDeeT 2 years ago
Um I think your conflating Jamestown with Plymoth. Thanksgiving is always associated with the Plymoth colony not Jamestown. Your essentially describing Jamestown though the socialist/private property point is valid in both cases, the indians didnt do any violence in Plymoth until 50 years later.
lengthyounarther 2 years ago
I should have clarified the 2 better, but I was really focused on getting out the message that socialism failed in the USA badly!
LCLREPORT 2 years ago
"Plymouth." Sorry. I grew up in the area. It's spelled "mouth" and pronounced "myth."
iheartdd4eva 2 years ago
I had to laugh at the picture at 1:00. A tablecloth? Wasn't the first Thanksgiving at Plymouth Plantation?
pathfinderdaddy 2 years ago