what is everyones favorite gun? i really like the rpg myself. it's really easy to be able to rip up everyone with it! my roomie calls me a noob for using it however who cares. i am kinda new maybe! however , at least i didnt be forced to pay for the game. i downloaded it absolutely free from mw2forfreeZinfo (replace Z with . ) last week
I believe the reason the game looks choppy is due to your hardware not being the best it could be and possibly some video tweaks could fix it. I do agree Linux can be used for gaming purposes. It is just hard for people to understand that. Th amjor issue recently with Linux is poor driver support and it is slowly but surely getting better. Nvidia is one company that has gotten better about the driver support for graphics cards ATI not so much.
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If you just run Windows, you dont have to do all this crap to play a game. with windows, ALL games and programs works. The choise should not be very hard... ?
@pr0mof0 yeh but there are currently 20 000 virus' in the wild on windows, there are virtually zero on linux. not to mention 99.9% of software is free and easy to find. how life the net of the bot?
ill give you an example of the differences of linux. i recently bought a usb headset, which is pent about an hour trying to setup with ths shit drivers that were supplied. the device wouldnt be recognised by windows and my usb mouse ceased to work, so trying to reinstall my usb drivers...
@pr0mof0 i had to dig out my ps2 adapter to get my mouse working, and reinstall my usb drivers; and hopefully my headset drivers. only to find my ps2 adapter is fucked. so i gave up in the end. 2 minutes later i booted up linux, plugged in my headset and low and behold the dam thing worked. isnt that ironic??
@pr0mof0 Linux is for people that deem windows to be undesirable. I drew the line at 2000, i downright refuse to get any windows past it. i'm running Ubuntu 9.10 and i frequently play online with the rest of my friends on Ventrilo. so to further bash your argument, not all games and programs run on windows. the choice is neither easy nor hard. some prefer windows, others linux. :P
@Breathoffog My comment is for the guy that said "games? buy PS3". I would play games on my opensuse 10.3 if ATI take care of their agp cards under linux.
This is very true. I have 3 linux boxes, one with intel integrated, one with nvidia and one with ati... the ati is not the most hardware deprived but it definitely has the worst graphics performance.
i would game on my linux pc but whenever i install the driver for my graphics gard...the colors get screwed up...negative colors basically....so every time i have to uninstall it..i havnt screwed around with it too much so i might just have to do that
Sorry...just wanted to get your attention! LOL! Say man, could you do a video trying to get Bioshock to work on Linux??? PLEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAASE????
I so want to know if it'll play that game! Well...that game, this old PC game called XIII & Portal!!
Could you at least tell me if you think it's possible for these games to run well on Linux? Reply to this or send me a message! Keep up the great work - Linux is COOL!
Likely you could use wine buuuut. If you want you can seamlessly run windows INSIDE linux. And I mean on your taskbar you will simply see windows aps as a different colour. Perfect integration when you use vmware or the like to install windows on the same machine. Sure it isn't linux on its own but if you are looking into switching over it works fine.
at the end of the day tho this is still emulation as your using CPU just to translate system calls... i wouldnt call those games smooth either...
Its really a shame tho if linux had better driver support (dont get me wrong its come a long way but it still falls short imo) and game designer support for the platform id change in a second im a total advocate of free software and i work for a large software provider :P
i love open office and ubuntu but as for gaming sorry but its windows only
I must go with weedyapl,altough I'm typing this from a swell tune Ubuntu machine and I hardly log into win 7 anymore,I must say that wine is still an emulator,as it "translates" the windows API layer,and that's basically what an emulator does......Also have Ubuntu on my eeepc,but the lost performance from wine is a real killer that even nfs 6 won't run.....I can hardly feel it on my core2quad though
You're wrong. An emulator would emulate the entire x86 cpu (opcodes, modes, mmu...), like the VICE emulator does for the Commodore 64. But Wine is only a way to load the windows executable (in PE format) in linux, then letting it work like a normal Linux app. The "translation" is only provide the correct DLLs patched in a way that if the Win app calls a DLL function (for ex. Open() ), the modded DLL would call the proper Linux function to get the operation done. I hope it's clear. :D
I wasn't comparing it to a playstation emulator or something,that EMULATES the cpu.......but the translation of the windows api is in itself a layer where it "emulates" and transforms windows commands so that they're understandable for linux.....that itself is a "stripped down" emulation,even though Wine never goes on imitating certain hardware,I can never find a better word for what it's doing
man you don't know how wine works,you could say it 10 times but it does emulate too,if it doesn't emulate hardware it doesn't mean it's not emulating,the word,the fucking term is not limited to that
@weedyapl ok I hate to say it but windows games and other stuff isn't just for windows. YOu need to look around a little some of the time but you can play widows games like Crysis, Call of duty 4, Maplestory Flyff etc.
@weedyapl it is not exactly emulation. to stay technically wine and cedega are API's for running exe compiled files on operating systems based on the linux kernel. it sure translates, but thats not the way emulation works. its just an interface for exe's
OK i'll start off with, i am a PC/WinXp user BUT i know my way around Linux.
1. i have a ok computer (not even close to the best) But still ok.
2. I can't say how Ubuntu works as i have never been able to get it working on a Pc (trusted me i have tryed many settings but the gfx looks like a Bad game like when you can't get a NES game to Load) and Yes i have installed and configed many drivers to try and get it working.
What graphics card do you have? You've never seen a game play in high FPS in Linux? I was getting very decent FPS in the videos I took.
It's Not that Linux is taking all your resources that's making games slower, it's most likely the fact that you don't have correct drivers installed and/or WINE is not configured correctly, sometimes you have to tweak things a little to get certain games to run better.
StJimmyPyro i have a 3.0ghz CPU Dual core 1g DDR2 ram 6800GS 256mb gfx card after watching this video i tryed one last time for about 6 hours last night and I have Good News and bad. I got WOW running at a OK FPS 60-70fps (very playable) BUT it's has some Glitching where is your walking your Feet stop moving (kind of funny at first but now just sucks =P) (PS.. i can't find any settings for Wine) but i did setup the .wtf file in wow to make it faster.
You can run winecfg in the terminal to do a little bit of configuration. Search your game/application on appdb.winehq(.)org for a lot of help on many glitches.
However, I did a google search (wow legs stop moving) and I saw one guy said after some patch the first time he logged in it did that, then didn't do it anymore after that. Maybe it's connected. Anyway, best of luck.
True, windows is better for gaming, but I prefer the stability with some lower graphics. Warcraft 3 is crashing sometimes on windows, on debian stable, it never crashed.
i was having the same problems when i had IBM laptop with a budget intel vga, but linux need a true opengl vga card, i got a new HP with Nvidia 9200gs ,now linux runs games like breeze i got same fps in xplane under linux as i get in windows, i think u will get lower fps if u use Directx to render but if use opengl i think u will get better result. i run WOW , call of duty , unreal tournment, with very good fps under wine
right now I have ubuntu (linux) and right now I am trying it just to get used to it. and one day I will cross over to 100%ubuntu. and uumm sorry to ask but where do I get cedega.
I have tried Wine for Linux and I must say that it runs quite alot Windows games. But it got some small stuttering when your fast on the buttons. Also Wine reduced my fps by more than 50% compared to the tweaked Windows XP Pro 90mb iso. Today I tried TrackMania in PlayonLinux using Wine, and while my fps was 20-30, i easly get 55-70 fps using the slimmed down Windows XP version. There are so much better harddrive support in Windows.
i have the 9800xt it's quite old man. but good i can run cod2 on it. portal. GTR2 Evo. half-life2. my RAM is 1.50GB and my GHz weird it is 1.10GHz. now is it 1.10GHz? or 1.1Ghz?
well, it runs like 75% of games out there! i think it's good enough (and crysis sucks anyway) and there are many good linux games anyway (alien-arena, urban terror...etc)
just saw a video (think it was yours) and it was Crysis running on linux, abit buggy though, and i dont think it had directx 10.
Its a real shame. If Microsoft allowed DirectX to work on all platforms, developers might consider to release their games for linux. But for now, most prefer DirectX and dont wish to use OpenGL.
Cedega was always easier setting up different wine environments for different games. Has someone released a good manager for wine to do the same or is Cedega always going to be easier to customize those kind of things. Also how is crossover doing? "Crossover helps put code into wine." I don't mind paying cedega $5/month i have been for the longest time. If crossover was as easy to donate to I might switch. But I like competition it is good for business.
I think cedega forked from the wine project too early. Wine's dev build has alot better support for games in my experience, and cedega has a restrictive license. I think if something were to fork off of wine at it's current state, and try to have better support for games, It'd actually make linux somewhat of a gaming platform.
Google search "envy" and it's the first result, get the correct download for your version of linux, then run it and select your graphics card, then it will install the drivers and you will be able to run in max resolution.
I'm totally interested in going this route and starting gaming on my new rig which is pretty high end, but I want to know: if i do everything right will there still be lower frame rates? and how does Ubuntu respond to DirectX 10 stuff (like Crysis)?
Honestly, at least for the next little while, you're gonna want to go with xp or vista for gaming, at least if you want the best results with the newest games.
I hear you can get hacked versions of DX10 for xp and it will also work in linux with WINE. But Cedega is no longer worth using, as no one is really updating it anymore.
no need to get cedega if you want to run DX games, get wine, and wine doors, open wine doors and select direct x 9 from the list and install it from there - easier than the download from MS.
i installed it but idk how to run games. i tell it the setup file on the cd and the directory i want it but when i tell it to install nothing happens. can u help
It's been a while since I used it, but as I recall you find the setup file on the cd, and install.... what game are you trying to install?
Because honestly, it's been a while since they did a update, so if the game is newer then 1 year old, you might want to try wine, as it's updated almost monthly.
hey i have a radeon 2600xt and whenever i try to install me drivers it doesnt let me have permission and when i get permission it installs ok but the messes up my graphics altogether...any ideas?
you could have made a search on google. You don't have the permissions because you must use the root account... So you have the rights. you can give permissions to let the driver installation because preceding the command with the word "sudo"... If sudo isn't recognize try "su". Then you'll have to enter the root account password...
Yeah, i almost said it before, I'd suggest WINE, its 100% free, open source and it has advanced quite a bit lately, its planned to reach version 1.0 in a little over a month. I'd suggest grabbing teh latest WINE, then picking up the 'winetricks' script, and then installing DirectX ontop of all that. i just figured it'd be best if i didnt mention my hate disgust and detest for Cedega here :)... since they found a loophole and raped opensource software.
Yeah, I'm not saying their company has good practices, but at the time I made the video, it was easier and faster to use Cedega for some games (and they even ran better). But yes, when wine 1.0 comes out, it should pretty much have Cedega blown out of the water, since they haven't been developing it much in the past while. I think one thing I liked at the time of filming was also the nice GUI. When I get back into Linux and install Ubuntu 8.4, I will be making more gaming videos, using wine.
Ok, now I'm certain Linux is no-where the same as windows when it comes to gaming, I'm a Linux fan but Linux is not better than windows for gaming and media..or internet except for the fact you get virus immunity. I mean it doesn't even support shockwave which is on many modern sites nowadays. Linux is definitely not for a rich gaming experience. But if you can survive bad gaming, media and added complexity, you should enjoy the many benefits of Linux.
And then there are multiplatform games with linux binaries, Doom (series), Quake (series), Nexuiz, Unreal Tournament(series), Urban Terror, Enemy Territory: Quake Wars, Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory, Return to Castle Wolfenstein, Descent(series), Duke Nukem 3D,Medal of Honor: Allied Assault, Heretic(series), Sim City3K, Neverwinter Nights, and the list of enjoyable opensource and linux only games is even longer, i could literally go on for a week.
When i started using linux there werent alot of games, but nowadays if someone tells you they dont use linux because there aren't enough games, it is little more than an excuse. Granted there still are alot of games for windows that won't run or won't run very well on linux.
Yes, I have played nearly all of those games mentioned, but some people don't want substitutes, they want to play COD4, or they want to play WOW, and now you can do that in Linux, so it's beginning to be a loosing battle for windows.
Maybe, yes I Kind of said a few things in one, another aspect would be native games for linux, especially lately they have been prospering quite a lot but mainly in the fps region. I dont know any good racing /sports games. again i'm just throwing out facts..
I have windows, but on a another computer, and I can say in most games I don't notice a difference. I might dual boot one of them some time to do a proper comparison.
Well, I had a middle class last generation graphics card, running what at that time was a brand new game. Of course it's not perfect, but if I threw a 8600 in there then I wouldn't expect to see any lag. Also I encoded the video HORRIBLY, so that would add to it looking bad. I'm going to attempt to run CounterStrike and Call of Duty 4 (yes, I just want to push it)
Oh, also remember, It could get better, I had all the settings on max, so if I put them down a bit you could expect a 20-30 fps gain
I wonder if this guy has the 9800 Pro or XT, because their different cards. I had the 9800 Pro which was a really great card, but the linux drivers were less than desirable.
No I'm soon to put open SuSE 10.3 On my laptop (Dual 7950 GTX's should make beryl look awesome)
nice man, this really makes me want to setup either wine or cedaga on my laptop. I'm a gamer so I might ask for a bit of help when I get around to it.
pay once yes... There's WINE, it can run some things just as good, but Cedega is more for gaming. If you're going to buy games, then you can atleast buy something to play it (since you have 100+ dollars laying around from not buys a M$ OS) Still, WINE does work well for a lot of stuff, and growing bi monthly.
As far as I can find (because I've never heard of those games) they are not yet compatible with Cedega. I'm sure you could find some Linux based games like them though (for example, my friends little brother found a free WoW simulator for Linux, and a StarCraft clone, all 100% free to)
How did you get the ati drivers working i have AMD x2 3800+ @ 2.5GHz 1 gig ocz platnim and ATI X1650XT [RV5300LE] with XGL but i get a black screen with propitery drivers 34, 35, 40, 41, 42 but it still not work please pm me on reply and in here if u like
my spec is Intel(R) Pentium(R)Dual Core @ 3.2GHz 1021MB 32Bit 18'inc screen 1280x1024 resolution EVGA Nvidia Geforce 8800 Ultra 768MB....ur nfs carbon and gta sa not running a bit smooth mines running great and smooth...hell yeah...
Yea my quad core and radeon 5770 get really laggy performance with wine in ubuntu :(
ChasingFlies 10 months ago
Why does it mater if whine is an emulator or not, some people are way to sensitive!
69jizzem 1 year ago
Does games like WOW work better through Cedega than Wine? Now im using Wine and the graphics are low for some reason...
SonOfTheSystem 1 year ago
can you play the sims 2 with cedega
kyle9772 1 year ago
i use ubuntu for everything, but for aoe2..
adamz1988 1 year ago
WHAT THE FUCK, my old 9600xt didn't even run Carbon?? Seems like Linux can run games really well!
P1nkOwns 1 year ago
@P1nkOwns booo :) ++
pguzun 1 year ago
what is everyones favorite gun? i really like the rpg myself. it's really easy to be able to rip up everyone with it! my roomie calls me a noob for using it however who cares. i am kinda new maybe! however , at least i didnt be forced to pay for the game. i downloaded it absolutely free from mw2forfreeZinfo (replace Z with . ) last week
arrivalwalkwaykjjkt 1 year ago
so laggy.... xp for the win
tdobbin 1 year ago
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deadguy718 1 year ago
@deadguy718 must people who run Linux used to run Windows
your probably a stupid kid anyways
Snorkai 1 year ago
@deadguy718 Linux is for people who hack your windows or mac
Breathoffog 1 year ago
I believe the reason the game looks choppy is due to your hardware not being the best it could be and possibly some video tweaks could fix it. I do agree Linux can be used for gaming purposes. It is just hard for people to understand that. Th amjor issue recently with Linux is poor driver support and it is slowly but surely getting better. Nvidia is one company that has gotten better about the driver support for graphics cards ATI not so much.
Kuaijin 1 year ago
idc wat anyone says i love linux i set it up on my pc as a 2nd os and im not disappointed!
INSANEMOTIVES 1 year ago
Nice nice man.I use ubuntu too and I am too gamer.And I don´t need windows for gaming.For this I windows don´t have.Good work.Linux FTW!!!
linuxrealpower 1 year ago
Windows sucks.But for gaming it's better.Linux is better for scripting and stuff like that.But linux is not bad for gaming but Windows is better.
Suldox 1 year ago
this just prooves that games could work easily on windows AND linux, but microsux is microsux
nooblet911 1 year ago
i dont really know anything about linux but is it possible to play games, download music and movies with
AMD Phenom II x3
3GB Crucial DDR3 RAM
Radeon HD 4870
WD Caviar 500gb
WhatCrowbar 2 years ago
From itunes? no, limewire yes frostwire yes, gaming some such as this MW, MW2
michillin212 2 years ago
Simple, Dual Boot.
BrinkOnEdge 2 years ago
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If you just run Windows, you dont have to do all this crap to play a game. with windows, ALL games and programs works. The choise should not be very hard... ?
pr0mof0 2 years ago
probably because the 'programs' you're are talking about are made for windows, BY MICROSOFT.
eliteveteran 2 years ago
I hope he means Vmware/Virtual box
mariofan9012 2 years ago
@pr0mof0 yeh but there are currently 20 000 virus' in the wild on windows, there are virtually zero on linux. not to mention 99.9% of software is free and easy to find. how life the net of the bot?
ill give you an example of the differences of linux. i recently bought a usb headset, which is pent about an hour trying to setup with ths shit drivers that were supplied. the device wouldnt be recognised by windows and my usb mouse ceased to work, so trying to reinstall my usb drivers...
NiGhtMarEs0nWax 2 years ago
@pr0mof0 i had to dig out my ps2 adapter to get my mouse working, and reinstall my usb drivers; and hopefully my headset drivers. only to find my ps2 adapter is fucked. so i gave up in the end. 2 minutes later i booted up linux, plugged in my headset and low and behold the dam thing worked. isnt that ironic??
NiGhtMarEs0nWax 2 years ago
@pr0mof0 Linux is for people that deem windows to be undesirable. I drew the line at 2000, i downright refuse to get any windows past it. i'm running Ubuntu 9.10 and i frequently play online with the rest of my friends on Ventrilo. so to further bash your argument, not all games and programs run on windows. the choice is neither easy nor hard. some prefer windows, others linux. :P
Gunteen6 2 years ago
really i got bejeweled didn't work on windows 7...
michillin212 2 years ago
for games? PS3.
mieszko7I7 2 years ago
Yeah play a MMORPG with that.
Try hard.
nversus 1 year ago
@nversus World of warcraft runs better on linux than it does on windows. just to name one... theres alot more
Breathoffog 1 year ago
@Breathoffog My comment is for the guy that said "games? buy PS3". I would play games on my opensuse 10.3 if ATI take care of their agp cards under linux.
nversus 1 year ago
In San Andreas you can remove the map and the hud, just have a look on the settings
Latvietis96 2 years ago
I suggest you get a NVIDIA-Card for Linux. More stable, better drivers and much faster!
The ATI-FGLRX-Drivers are crap. (Sorry for the word, but it is the truth.)
Pommes1983 2 years ago
This is very true. I have 3 linux boxes, one with intel integrated, one with nvidia and one with ati... the ati is not the most hardware deprived but it definitely has the worst graphics performance.
Dan48p 2 years ago
I just found out that Wine stands for "Wine is Not an Emulator" lo xD
thekillerdick 2 years ago
Yes, that only means that the Windowsgames under WINE work native with an own small Windowskompatible Kernel, that is not from Microsoft.
Pommes1983 2 years ago
no way
TheBenjiAk 2 years ago
i would game on my linux pc but whenever i install the driver for my graphics gard...the colors get screwed up...negative colors basically....so every time i have to uninstall it..i havnt screwed around with it too much so i might just have to do that
98steve98 2 years ago
I think u tried to install ATi Drivers on Ubuntu 9.xx. Try Ubuntu 8.04 LTS and u'll see that u can install the drivers and all will be ok.
aliancemd 2 years ago
HEY HEY HEY....ST.JIMMYPYRO!!!
Sorry...just wanted to get your attention! LOL! Say man, could you do a video trying to get Bioshock to work on Linux??? PLEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAASE????
I so want to know if it'll play that game! Well...that game, this old PC game called XIII & Portal!!
Could you at least tell me if you think it's possible for these games to run well on Linux? Reply to this or send me a message! Keep up the great work - Linux is COOL!
123Virtuosity 2 years ago
Likely you could use wine buuuut. If you want you can seamlessly run windows INSIDE linux. And I mean on your taskbar you will simply see windows aps as a different colour. Perfect integration when you use vmware or the like to install windows on the same machine. Sure it isn't linux on its own but if you are looking into switching over it works fine.
Idiomatick 2 years ago
at the end of the day tho this is still emulation as your using CPU just to translate system calls... i wouldnt call those games smooth either...
Its really a shame tho if linux had better driver support (dont get me wrong its come a long way but it still falls short imo) and game designer support for the platform id change in a second im a total advocate of free software and i work for a large software provider :P
i love open office and ubuntu but as for gaming sorry but its windows only
weedyapl 2 years ago
Windows only?
Pfff... stop being silly. Read the Wine wiki page, it's not and emulator, Linux is running the games, and MANY of them run damn well.
:D
StJimmyPyro 2 years ago 6
I must go with weedyapl,altough I'm typing this from a swell tune Ubuntu machine and I hardly log into win 7 anymore,I must say that wine is still an emulator,as it "translates" the windows API layer,and that's basically what an emulator does......Also have Ubuntu on my eeepc,but the lost performance from wine is a real killer that even nfs 6 won't run.....I can hardly feel it on my core2quad though
dudeeeeee16 2 years ago
WINE itself is an acronym for Wine Is Not an Emulator :P
StJimmyPyro 2 years ago 3
I know,but that's just a name....God knows the creators of wine don't wanna call it an emulator :))
dudeeeeee16 2 years ago
You're wrong. An emulator would emulate the entire x86 cpu (opcodes, modes, mmu...), like the VICE emulator does for the Commodore 64. But Wine is only a way to load the windows executable (in PE format) in linux, then letting it work like a normal Linux app. The "translation" is only provide the correct DLLs patched in a way that if the Win app calls a DLL function (for ex. Open() ), the modded DLL would call the proper Linux function to get the operation done. I hope it's clear. :D
Z80Fan 2 years ago 7
I wasn't comparing it to a playstation emulator or something,that EMULATES the cpu.......but the translation of the windows api is in itself a layer where it "emulates" and transforms windows commands so that they're understandable for linux.....that itself is a "stripped down" emulation,even though Wine never goes on imitating certain hardware,I can never find a better word for what it's doing
dudeeeeee16 2 years ago
ooooook ;-)
Z80Fan 2 years ago
man you don't know how wine works,you could say it 10 times but it does emulate too,if it doesn't emulate hardware it doesn't mean it's not emulating,the word,the fucking term is not limited to that
drinkbudyXD 2 years ago
@StJimmyPyro
We know it, WINE implemant WIN API but it stiil take you CPU for translate system calls and OPEN GL rules to DirectX.
Savpether 1 month ago
@StJimmyPyro nop
kris10ish 11 months ago
Wine doesnt emulate the games. It translates the windows language to Linux so that Ubuntu and other linux based OS's can play the games.
razor005 2 years ago 6
@weedyapl ok I hate to say it but windows games and other stuff isn't just for windows. YOu need to look around a little some of the time but you can play widows games like Crysis, Call of duty 4, Maplestory Flyff etc.
aveil2998 9 months ago
@weedyapl It's not an emulator.
Winnman05 7 months ago
@weedyapl it is not exactly emulation. to stay technically wine and cedega are API's for running exe compiled files on operating systems based on the linux kernel. it sure translates, but thats not the way emulation works. its just an interface for exe's
Nek0TheCat 2 months ago
True gamer, dinner plate in front of the monitor, now your just missing the soda cans lol.
ThatBosnianDude 2 years ago
OK i'll start off with, i am a PC/WinXp user BUT i know my way around Linux.
1. i have a ok computer (not even close to the best) But still ok.
2. I can't say how Ubuntu works as i have never been able to get it working on a Pc (trusted me i have tryed many settings but the gfx looks like a Bad game like when you can't get a NES game to Load) and Yes i have installed and configed many drivers to try and get it working.
(this is going to be like 3 comments sorry..)
zzk2001 2 years ago
3. i use DS:Linux for servers and it works very well for that.
4. I have tryed maybe 60+ distros (Mandriva being the best out of all of them i have tryed)
5. BUT when using Wine to play games like CS:S or WOW the FPS in the games would Drop so bad it would make the game un-playable
Where
windows on WOW gets 120FPS
Linux+Wine gets 20FPS
I really don't think getting Ubuntu to work would help much But i'll never know as that just does not want to work for me.
zzk2001 2 years ago
6. just starting the games would take about 2-5 mins (YEA mins)
7. Not putting Linux down or anything, But i have never seen a linux play a game at Good FPS
8. I would think a OS taken less from the CPU and Ram would run games faster =( i guess i was wrong on that one.
zzk2001 2 years ago
What graphics card do you have? You've never seen a game play in high FPS in Linux? I was getting very decent FPS in the videos I took.
It's Not that Linux is taking all your resources that's making games slower, it's most likely the fact that you don't have correct drivers installed and/or WINE is not configured correctly, sometimes you have to tweak things a little to get certain games to run better.
StJimmyPyro 2 years ago
zzk2001 2 years ago
You can run winecfg in the terminal to do a little bit of configuration. Search your game/application on appdb.winehq(.)org for a lot of help on many glitches.
However, I did a google search (wow legs stop moving) and I saw one guy said after some patch the first time he logged in it did that, then didn't do it anymore after that. Maybe it's connected. Anyway, best of luck.
StJimmyPyro 2 years ago
use opengl instead of directx?
True, windows is better for gaming, but I prefer the stability with some lower graphics. Warcraft 3 is crashing sometimes on windows, on debian stable, it never crashed.
LoloftheRings 2 years ago
i was having the same problems when i had IBM laptop with a budget intel vga, but linux need a true opengl vga card, i got a new HP with Nvidia 9200gs ,now linux runs games like breeze i got same fps in xplane under linux as i get in windows, i think u will get lower fps if u use Directx to render but if use opengl i think u will get better result. i run WOW , call of duty , unreal tournment, with very good fps under wine
abulmagd3 2 years ago
this vid is from 2007
do u still use ubuntu 6.10?
just heard about this cedega, wanna try later
nice vid dude..
jamdinding 2 years ago
No, I use 9.4 now haha.
And just as the version for Ubuntu has changed, my opinion on Cedega has also changed.|Use WINE.
StJimmyPyro 2 years ago
right now I have ubuntu (linux) and right now I am trying it just to get used to it. and one day I will cross over to 100%ubuntu. and uumm sorry to ask but where do I get cedega.
bookworm840 2 years ago
Use WINE, it's free, and works better. It just lacks a nice GUI lol.
StJimmyPyro 2 years ago
Which PlayOnLinux takes care of, and it's free. :)
DaweyYT 2 years ago
only 1 gig of RAM? u should add another gig or 2
mjpalmer3000 2 years ago
It's Linux, you don't need as much as you do with Windows :D
StJimmyPyro 2 years ago
my pc is more old then yours......radeon 9550 But can run crysis warhead very well in low.......
flashguyz2 2 years ago
isn't this basically just wine with a GUI?
nexteyenate 2 years ago
Yes, only WINE has better support and more compatibility.
StJimmyPyro 2 years ago
wine works for me, no need to pay for it...
Ezcut 2 years ago
the thing is that you don't have punkbuster for games like cod. so you are more exposed and people could figure out how to hack easily.
simysimy9 3 years ago
Punkbuster is a joke the hacks that it catches are just a fraction of the ones in use.
Daddysmonsters 2 years ago
Those GTA issues are fixed now. There are no more glitches like that. NIce vid.
mwoodj 3 years ago
We just need more opengl based titles.
scilonthreat 3 years ago
;[ that case is butt ugly, pyro.
LightxEdge 3 years ago
dudegotranoverongtasawhensnatchedoutofcar!
RS2hatesTomatos 3 years ago
mac osx too
batitombo 3 years ago
I have tried Wine for Linux and I must say that it runs quite alot Windows games. But it got some small stuttering when your fast on the buttons. Also Wine reduced my fps by more than 50% compared to the tweaked Windows XP Pro 90mb iso. Today I tried TrackMania in PlayonLinux using Wine, and while my fps was 20-30, i easly get 55-70 fps using the slimmed down Windows XP version. There are so much better harddrive support in Windows.
M0rrigan1 3 years ago
Use WineX, not just Wine. The program in this video is WineX/Cedega. Windows emulator made specifically for gaming.
BrokenHorn90 3 years ago
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brunofin12 3 years ago
question : how can i install programs on linux mandriva ? thanks :)
ghitaciprian 3 years ago
I would recommend checking out the Package Manager to see what it already has access to.
I've never used Mandriva, but I believe you can look for RPM files, they should practically auto install if they're anything like debian's bed files.
StJimmyPyro 3 years ago
i have the 9800xt it's quite old man. but good i can run cod2 on it. portal. GTR2 Evo. half-life2. my RAM is 1.50GB and my GHz weird it is 1.10GHz. now is it 1.10GHz? or 1.1Ghz?
Mupp1t 3 years ago
It is 1.1GHz. 1.10, 1.1000 or 1.1000000 whatever, are the same as 1.1. It doesn't matter how may "0" there are. It's the same as 0001.1 and 1.1.
brunofin12 3 years ago
oh lol yeah. yeah i got the new HD4850 i got a e8400 OCed @ 3.60ghz
Mupp1t 3 years ago
well, it runs like 75% of games out there! i think it's good enough (and crysis sucks anyway) and there are many good linux games anyway (alien-arena, urban terror...etc)
orgthingy 3 years ago
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dude u havent even played crysis u noob
bandidagen 3 years ago
crysis is so boring
dale456654 3 years ago
nah
it's got some good parts
warhead is def better
LightxEdge 3 years ago
Doesnt cedega cost money? Cedega doesnt run every game, for example, crysis.
Luky1Jay 3 years ago
No, it doesn't run Crysis, use WINE, it's more likely to support it well in the near future.
StJimmyPyro 3 years ago
just saw a video (think it was yours) and it was Crysis running on linux, abit buggy though, and i dont think it had directx 10.
Its a real shame. If Microsoft allowed DirectX to work on all platforms, developers might consider to release their games for linux. But for now, most prefer DirectX and dont wish to use OpenGL.
Luky1Jay 3 years ago
just wondering, why you dont use WINE for everything?
mcmilbc 3 years ago
I do now.
Cedega used to be somewhat better for games then WINE though.
StJimmyPyro 3 years ago
Cedega was always easier setting up different wine environments for different games. Has someone released a good manager for wine to do the same or is Cedega always going to be easier to customize those kind of things. Also how is crossover doing? "Crossover helps put code into wine." I don't mind paying cedega $5/month i have been for the longest time. If crossover was as easy to donate to I might switch. But I like competition it is good for business.
jeffsadowski 3 years ago
Lol, I only have 512MB of RAM.
Shitty graphic card that it came with.
I lag like fuck, and my FPS is always shit.
(WoW)
Krazyludaz 3 years ago
I think cedega forked from the wine project too early. Wine's dev build has alot better support for games in my experience, and cedega has a restrictive license. I think if something were to fork off of wine at it's current state, and try to have better support for games, It'd actually make linux somewhat of a gaming platform.
igneousphantom 3 years ago
when you install linux are your old files still on the computer
bcnr33skyline187 3 years ago
No, not unless you dual boot, then you'll have your current OS with all your files, and have the option to boot into Linux with none of your files.
StJimmyPyro 3 years ago
if i am using wubi to install ubuntu that is a dual boot right?
bcnr33skyline187 3 years ago
Yes, that will work.
youtube(dot)com/watch?v=tjJl3p0-YMs
That should be a good guide if you're using xp or vista.
StJimmyPyro 3 years ago
too late its installed and i love it but how would i increase the screen resolution its stuck at 800X600
bcnr33skyline187 3 years ago
Get "envy" and use it to install your graphics driver for your card.
StJimmyPyro 3 years ago
how do i do that
bcnr33skyline187 3 years ago
Google search "envy" and it's the first result, get the correct download for your version of linux, then run it and select your graphics card, then it will install the drivers and you will be able to run in max resolution.
StJimmyPyro 3 years ago
mines a built in how do i know which one it is
bcnr33skyline187 3 years ago
Several ways, look up the model of your computer if you bought it, or you can look up your mother board.
You can also try typing this in the terminal
lspci
and near the top it should say what you have, you can pm me the full results if you're not sure.
Envy might also have a "auto select" feature, though I'm not sure.
StJimmyPyro 3 years ago
I'm totally interested in going this route and starting gaming on my new rig which is pretty high end, but I want to know: if i do everything right will there still be lower frame rates? and how does Ubuntu respond to DirectX 10 stuff (like Crysis)?
XinBiDe 3 years ago
Honestly, at least for the next little while, you're gonna want to go with xp or vista for gaming, at least if you want the best results with the newest games.
I hear you can get hacked versions of DX10 for xp and it will also work in linux with WINE. But Cedega is no longer worth using, as no one is really updating it anymore.
StJimmyPyro 3 years ago
no need to get cedega if you want to run DX games, get wine, and wine doors, open wine doors and select direct x 9 from the list and install it from there - easier than the download from MS.
lukemiddlehurst2 3 years ago
cedega is free? for the moment i use wine :)
Gh3r0m 3 years ago
No, cedega is not free, and I no longer recommend it.
StJimmyPyro 3 years ago
i use wine right now, so i can only play opengl games. so im gonna get cedega.
but i got a few questions.
is the interface like wine, with virtual desktop?
and how hard is it to install?
runie360 3 years ago
Very easy to install, very nice and easy to use GUI.
StJimmyPyro 3 years ago
i installed it but idk how to run games. i tell it the setup file on the cd and the directory i want it but when i tell it to install nothing happens. can u help
and btw i am a noob in linux :P
runie360 3 years ago
It's been a while since I used it, but as I recall you find the setup file on the cd, and install.... what game are you trying to install?
Because honestly, it's been a while since they did a update, so if the game is newer then 1 year old, you might want to try wine, as it's updated almost monthly.
StJimmyPyro 3 years ago
its counter-strike source, i found the setup file and did everything like tutorials online said, but when i click to install nothing happens.
i cant get any game that runs on direct x to run on wine :( but opengl and direct3d games run perfectly.
thats y i got cedega.
im gonna do some tweaking tonight, hopefully ill get it to work
guess ill stick to counter-strike 1.6 on wine.
thanks alot :)
runie360 3 years ago
Alright, sounds fair, sorry I couldn't be more helpful
StJimmyPyro 3 years ago
it alright :)
at least u got it to work :P
runie360 3 years ago
hey i have a radeon 2600xt and whenever i try to install me drivers it doesnt let me have permission and when i get permission it installs ok but the messes up my graphics altogether...any ideas?
karlk123 3 years ago
Did you try using envy to install it?
StJimmyPyro 3 years ago
No whats that?
karlk123 3 years ago
you could have made a search on google. You don't have the permissions because you must use the root account... So you have the rights. you can give permissions to let the driver installation because preceding the command with the word "sudo"... If sudo isn't recognize try "su". Then you'll have to enter the root account password...
xXxlllManHacklllxXx 3 years ago
Turn off Framerate Limiter in GTA - no lag!
Logsdaman11 3 years ago 2
Good idea =D
StJimmyPyro 3 years ago
where can i download cedega for free?
116121 3 years ago
warez-bb
StJimmyPyro 3 years ago
You shouldn't "steal" it. Rather get Wine, cedega was built from earlier version of wine any way. (my explanation is simplified obviously)
gummi666 3 years ago
yeah I agree with Gummi. Wine is better since it's completely open-source and you can apply patches to get certain games to work
Steven707 3 years ago
Yeah, i almost said it before, I'd suggest WINE, its 100% free, open source and it has advanced quite a bit lately, its planned to reach version 1.0 in a little over a month. I'd suggest grabbing teh latest WINE, then picking up the 'winetricks' script, and then installing DirectX ontop of all that. i just figured it'd be best if i didnt mention my hate disgust and detest for Cedega here :)... since they found a loophole and raped opensource software.
iampenguinpowered 3 years ago
Yeah, I'm not saying their company has good practices, but at the time I made the video, it was easier and faster to use Cedega for some games (and they even ran better). But yes, when wine 1.0 comes out, it should pretty much have Cedega blown out of the water, since they haven't been developing it much in the past while. I think one thing I liked at the time of filming was also the nice GUI. When I get back into Linux and install Ubuntu 8.4, I will be making more gaming videos, using wine.
StJimmyPyro 3 years ago
use wine.
It is nearly so good like cedega. Some things even better than cedega.
(Alsa support for example)
Colamix666 3 years ago
not really the new version runs supports alsa aswell and cedega is pretty much faster im talking out of experience
aliayaz19 3 years ago
Ok, now I'm certain Linux is no-where the same as windows when it comes to gaming, I'm a Linux fan but Linux is not better than windows for gaming and media..or internet except for the fact you get virus immunity. I mean it doesn't even support shockwave which is on many modern sites nowadays. Linux is definitely not for a rich gaming experience. But if you can survive bad gaming, media and added complexity, you should enjoy the many benefits of Linux.
conorsulli 3 years ago
Well... that feels like a back handed comment...
Point is, people say "You can't play ANY games in linux"
Here I played 4, and it wasn't bad quality gaming.
StJimmyPyro 3 years ago
And then there are multiplatform games with linux binaries, Doom (series), Quake (series), Nexuiz, Unreal Tournament(series), Urban Terror, Enemy Territory: Quake Wars, Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory, Return to Castle Wolfenstein, Descent(series), Duke Nukem 3D,Medal of Honor: Allied Assault, Heretic(series), Sim City3K, Neverwinter Nights, and the list of enjoyable opensource and linux only games is even longer, i could literally go on for a week.
iampenguinpowered 3 years ago
And then we have loads of console emulators.
When i started using linux there werent alot of games, but nowadays if someone tells you they dont use linux because there aren't enough games, it is little more than an excuse. Granted there still are alot of games for windows that won't run or won't run very well on linux.
iampenguinpowered 3 years ago
Yes, I have played nearly all of those games mentioned, but some people don't want substitutes, they want to play COD4, or they want to play WOW, and now you can do that in Linux, so it's beginning to be a loosing battle for windows.
StJimmyPyro 3 years ago
Maybe, yes I Kind of said a few things in one, another aspect would be native games for linux, especially lately they have been prospering quite a lot but mainly in the fps region. I dont know any good racing /sports games. again i'm just throwing out facts..
conorsulli 3 years ago
Haha, I stumbledupon this!
But I'm not going to watch it again...
theducktapeking 3 years ago
Fine... but my videos are like...
SwissChalet chicken, better the second time around!
StJimmyPyro 3 years ago
What?!? Anyway good vid get the word out!
MJGrindboy 3 years ago 2
do you have windows as well? is the performance of games in windows better?
sakuranbo888 3 years ago
I have windows, but on a another computer, and I can say in most games I don't notice a difference. I might dual boot one of them some time to do a proper comparison.
StJimmyPyro 3 years ago
Good idea to dual boot linux and windows. perfect combo:P
xhead12 3 years ago
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LOL! AMD=SUCKS
do like how you go with linux but linux servers suck for CSS
umm I have way better computer and I bought mine for 730 dollars
WINDOWS XP FTW! but linux is good
therealzein 3 years ago
For me works fine, good job!
maxit0x 4 years ago
wow dude that looks like crap. sorry but it really does
Foxontherun2 4 years ago
see me comment to the last guy.
StJimmyPyro 4 years ago
fuck man your fps looks extractively low what are you getting on those games?
adimsimplease2000 4 years ago
Well, I had a middle class last generation graphics card, running what at that time was a brand new game. Of course it's not perfect, but if I threw a 8600 in there then I wouldn't expect to see any lag. Also I encoded the video HORRIBLY, so that would add to it looking bad. I'm going to attempt to run CounterStrike and Call of Duty 4 (yes, I just want to push it)
Oh, also remember, It could get better, I had all the settings on max, so if I put them down a bit you could expect a 20-30 fps gain
StJimmyPyro 4 years ago
tushay salesmen I two have a uncle.
adimsimplease2000 3 years ago
Haha
StJimmyPyro 3 years ago
you suck
roskopom 4 years ago
yeah, that'd be me.
Small world.
What's your nick?
StJimmyPyro 4 years ago
Saw me where? I haven't been able to get it to work on linux, as of yet, but it does work fine and dandy on xp :P
StJimmyPyro 4 years ago
I wonder if this guy has the 9800 Pro or XT, because their different cards. I had the 9800 Pro which was a really great card, but the linux drivers were less than desirable.
No I'm soon to put open SuSE 10.3 On my laptop (Dual 7950 GTX's should make beryl look awesome)
Vreekefr 4 years ago
Yeah, sorry, I don't know what I was saying when I said XT PRO... it's only the pro.
StJimmyPyro 4 years ago
nice man, this really makes me want to setup either wine or cedaga on my laptop. I'm a gamer so I might ask for a bit of help when I get around to it.
Vreekefr 4 years ago
NO problem, I'll be here, just message me.
StJimmyPyro 4 years ago
low fps ^^ and too problems
giovalesto 4 years ago
cedega is pay :S where is free software
Pepiberto 4 years ago
pay once yes... There's WINE, it can run some things just as good, but Cedega is more for gaming. If you're going to buy games, then you can atleast buy something to play it (since you have 100+ dollars laying around from not buys a M$ OS) Still, WINE does work well for a lot of stuff, and growing bi monthly.
StJimmyPyro 4 years ago
I find it funny when people say they can't go to linux, because they are a gamer, since I switched to linux to get more fps in quake 3...
MRauron 4 years ago
will it run games such as flyff, gunz, etc.
zeromaster 4 years ago
As far as I can find (because I've never heard of those games) they are not yet compatible with Cedega. I'm sure you could find some Linux based games like them though (for example, my friends little brother found a free WoW simulator for Linux, and a StarCraft clone, all 100% free to)
StJimmyPyro 4 years ago
How did you get the ati drivers working i have AMD x2 3800+ @ 2.5GHz 1 gig ocz platnim and ATI X1650XT [RV5300LE] with XGL but i get a black screen with propitery drivers 34, 35, 40, 41, 42 but it still not work please pm me on reply and in here if u like
narcarsiss 4 years ago
What version of Ubuntu (or other Linux os) are you running? The easiest way would be with envy, have you tried it? albertomilone(dot)com
Try that first, but what I did I jotted down here ubuntucorner(dot)freeforums(dot)org/viewtopic(dot)php?t=51
StJimmyPyro 4 years ago
Are you playing with the keyboard? Or are you using a controller?
tribluered 4 years ago
Keyboard, but there is controller support.
StJimmyPyro 4 years ago
Cool. Thx for the info.
tribluered 4 years ago
my spec is Intel(R) Pentium(R)Dual Core @ 3.2GHz 1021MB 32Bit 18'inc screen 1280x1024 resolution EVGA Nvidia Geforce 8800 Ultra 768MB....ur nfs carbon and gta sa not running a bit smooth mines running great and smooth...hell yeah...
haoffice 4 years ago
Yeah, your specs blow mine out of the water. I wouldn't expect my games to run any better on windows.
It's good enough for anyone to play, and I don't really notice much lag, plust like I said, alll the visuals are cranked max.
StJimmyPyro 4 years ago