I always do first research by Wikipedia,but I'll ask: "What year did T.O.W. become wireless?" I was in a TOW unit after I finished my cumpulsory 3 year draft in 1974 infantry & retrained for TOW 6 months later doing 36 full more months.Its a thin copper wire but I'll have to check new products?
I have one of those at home and i use my wireless modem to control it. It fires if the security system I've installed at home is triggered without being disabled within 15 seconds.
@JVC7400 No there is a wire in there, it cuts at the tube when, A) missile detonates B) Missile goes out of launch constraints or C) the gunner or pilot push the Wire Cut button.
@Robbob9933 there is a version of the TOW that is wireless its called the ITOW, I know it dosnt sound right becuse the tow is tube launched, optically tracked, wireguided missile but there is an ITOW
@miaczynski ITOW stands for IMPROVED TOW. This has a probe that gives stand off trigger of warhead. There have been several attempts at creating a radio datalink version but these at best increase the cost per missle by 4 times and requires new command system costing several hundred thousand per unit. This version would not provide any benefit. You are talking to an 11H here.
@Robbob9933 A fellow 11H, I was with the 101st there was talk of an ITOW but Ive never seen one or met someone who fired one, did some research and I think they scraped the idea. Fired a TOW a few times but my favorite weapon is still the M2. Infantry Follow Me!
@miaczynski The ITOW is called the TOW2 now if I remember correctly. I went from non-grunt Marine to 11H Army NG and was sent to TOW school. Due to odd rules at the time, they had to either keep me a Sergeant and OJT me or send me to school and adjust rank to skill level. They were trying to take my Sergeant away but couldn't by law. Well graduated top of class and was retained for skill level evaluation.
@miaczynski I was checked out to skill level 4, the NG was forced to make me a SFC and make the the TOW platoon Sergeant. Went to summer camp and my paltoon got all the missiles :) My first year ended and they asked me not to return. I was on the "try one" program and NG was the one to choose to walk away. When Gulf War 1 came about the next summer they wanted to recall me but couldn't, I had already completed more than 6 years active service.
@Robbob9933 Two funny things happend shooting a TOW at a live fire range, the first one I fired shattered both sides of the windsheild in my humve from the backblast and the second time I fired it was at night and my target looked up at me, it was a deer! I was still able to steer the missle away from the dear and still hit the plywood tank though.
@miaczynski The first one sounds like a bad lot similar to the ones we gave to Iran, the sustainer motor kicked in too soon. Me, I got to shoot a real tank after the dragon boys had their go. One of these guys sneezed and all the dragon steering motors went off all at once brrrrrrrp leaving an uncontolled missile with a live warhead. Lucky it hit a tree. I went for the turret / hull junction and missed and went between 2 road wheels.
they should equip recon marines and cavalry humvees wiht recoiless rifles too, because often TOW missiles are scarce and too far apart for anti-tank and assault artillery.
@MattGodden123 Wouldn't surprise me. Why do you think the Commies beat the Nazis in WW2? For every 1 Tiger tank there were about 30 T-34s built. But I bet if the numbers were more even the Nazis would beat 'em since the Tiger was almost invincible at the time
@patrikasLTL T55s and T72s got their asses handed to them by their respective counterparts in the Sinai and Golon Heights. T72s were ate alive in Gulf War I.
In 1982, T-72s had their asses handed to them.....by TOWs. But no one is going to expect a T-72 to take an ATGM hit at the time and only two or three in one engagement actually suffered autoloader explosions.
Sinai? Yeah, tank units that ran out of fuel from aerial bombardment in 67. Same for gulf war. Nevermind that they were operating foreign tanks, export model T-72, with an arms embargo in place and no spare parts. And 400 Egyptian tanks on search with no recon against 900 Israeli tanks waiting in ambushes in 73. Same for Golan, except that within 24 hours 90% of Israeli officers were casualties.
It's not like WW II where there's a big difference in tanks, soviet-NATO were much equal
@patrikasLTL For GW1 I was referring to the M60 (1 Marine Tank Batallion) to T72 match up at Kuwait International Airport, nose to nose at essentially point blank ranges. Info on this fight keeps getting removed. For Golon Heights, 2 mobility killed Centurians took out 48 T72s.
@patrikasLTL Not talking abouit getting removed from YouTube, I'm talking about getting removed from government sites. My guess is that the M60s with the reactive performed much better then the M1s. Second guess is that the Army's Tiger Brigade was held in reserve and was not sent to a tank heavy engagement. The lowest count I have seen is around 300, highest around 500. In the groud portion alone in the Marine area of operations over 1000 Iraqi tanks were taken out.
Most commenters understanding of how shaped charge rounds work is incorrect.
The penetration of tank hull is not by plasma or heat - but by hydrodynamic pressure.- much like a high pressure water jet. The inflow of armour particles and other material sets of secondary explosions within tank. Soviet tanks do not have ammunition protection (eg carousel at base) hence catastrophic results!
yeah the title makes no sense, this wasn't a TOW, besides the fact that TOW's fucking suck (I used to work on them until they started getting replaced by HF) the TOW missile does not have a proximity fuse or air-burst option. the only two ways for a TOW to explode is either direct hit or if the missile flew out of the constraints of the launcher.
a missle with a wire connected to the launch system is a tow launcher, so wireless tow launcher impossible, thats laser guided missles thats wireless, and goes where your aiming
The Marine Coprs hase adopted the SABER system now which is an upgrade of the TOW2 it now can lock onto multiple targets and uses a GPS satalite system called PADS
There were many improvements made to the TOW over its lifespan and the capabilities, even today, are quite remarkable...and the missile goes a lot faster than 400 miles per hour ;)
The TOW's effect on modern armor is the same as on old armor: it destroys it. As far as hitting moving targets, it is very easy and can be accomplished from far beyond the range of any tank's weapons. The only way the target can escape is if it can maneuver into a concrete building or under (not just behind) natural cover or if the comman wires are broken...hard to do when you're trying to dodge a missile that moves at about 400 mph.
these missiles are always tested on old Soviet tanks like the T-72 or T-64 and besides I have never seen evidence of such missiles against moving targets or for suepuesto, with some newer models like the T - 80 remodeled or the T-90
sure we do not know the exact details of the Russian combat elements on the one hand some things are known and others not. The Americans advertise their weapons with what you know most or all of their technology but this way is easier to sell to their countries allies and profit Economy, which Russia did not do so well
Agreed. Wherever those videos are, they haven't made it to Youtube yet.
Personally, I'd prefer that certain military testing documentation which has been released were still kept secret, but TOW's have been around for quite some time now. Most adversaries would already be familiar with its capabilities.
that the target is hit. ITAS stands for Improved Target Acquisition System, or improved tow. It incorporates a integrated day and night sight, where as the TOW has separate day and night sights.
The Javelin and Dragon are both fire and forget, they have cameras in the missile that allow it to stay on target.
and the TOW 2A has a two warheads, one for the upgraded armor, the second to destroy. the TOW 2B flies above the target and the warhead shots down, which is what happens in this video,
I am a Army Vet who is trained as a 27E land combat electronic missile systems repairer. I am trained to repair the TOW, TOW ITAS, Bradley TOW, Javelin, and Dragon firing systems. the TOW stands for Tubular launched, Optically tracked, Wire Guided. when the tow is launched a fishing line size wire uncoils from the rear of the missile, upto about 2,000 feet, you must track your target until it hits our until you run out of line. how ever the missile times your movements in tracking to insure
Well there has been developmental work to make a wireless version of TOW skinnyscout. As for why? As DesiArcy said, you can fire on the move. The missile can also fly faster as you don't have to worry about breaking wires. And be fired over and through tangled terrain where the concern is raised that the wire can snag on some terrain feature and break the link.
whats the point of making the link system wireless? I would think that because it still has to be guided to the target optical why not stick with a wire based command link because it is cheaper and less complicated then a wireless link and is not effected by interference
@nuty1234 The main reason is that a wireless guided missile can be fired while the vehicle is moving, whereas the existing wire-guided TOW requires the vehicle to come to a stop and remain stationary throughout the missile's flight in order to avoid breaking the guidance wires.
the answer is simple man....build a tank with min 12" thick armour all round..and power it by a small nuclear propulsion drive....no infantry-fired missile will get through that
@RifledBarrel Too bad it wouldn't be able to move by itself.
Nuclear power doesn't work that way. A nuclear battery wouldn't provide nearly enough power to move the thing, and a nuclear reactor wouldn't fit in a tank.
@RifledBarrel 12" thick armour, but somehow no infantry missile will get through that. Where did u get this from? The modern infantry fired missiles, like the TOW, the Kornet, the Metis M, can penetrate over 800mm of RHA behind ERA. How is yr 12" mm thick armor stand up to that, ha? & u want 2 put nuclear propulsion into something that gets shoot at with powerful missiles & other type of projectiles? You're joking, right?
@hemitime03 I know how 2 spell in English much better than many Americans that I talked 2, so shut yr fucking cake hole! & 12", u idiot, is 25cm, which is not a problem at 4 a missile that can penetrate over 1m of RHA, get it? & tell me again abt that nuclear powered tank... I really laughed at that one. U should hide that comment b4 anymore people will read it & b4 u will make a fool out of yr self even more...
@StiviGun1 You're a dumbass, i said nothing about a nuclear powered tank someone else suggested that. 12"mm is retarded note the inch designation after the 12 . You Rhodes Scholars never cease to amaze me. I'm beginning to think you're a french faggot.
@hemitime03 R u fucking retarded? What the fuck is "12"mm" u stupid fuck? I know perfectly well, u fucking little shit, the difference between the inches & mm. Much better than you do. So why don;t u go fuck yr self, you stupid bitch!?
@StiviGun1 Calm down stinkygun, or your mommy will take your gameboy away, and make you stay in your basement room til you can speak nicely. And no more Daisy Red Rider BB gun.
@hemitime03 In "basement"? I don't even have a basement & in my country this is not even practiced. That's probably what your mommy's doing to you. Does your daddy comes drunk at night in your room sometimes? Hahahaha! Now go do something more useful, like hanging yourself and stop bothering me.
@StiviGun1 Way to go stinkygun, you once again showed your illiteracy, " Does your daddy comes drunk at night in your room" Did your mommy have any kids that lived? Happy trails faggot.
@hemitime03 Hey, go fuck yr self! U don't even know how 2 ask for food in my language, so go screw your self with yr entire family, u pathetic yank prick!
@StiviGun1 Het stinkygun it's easy to talk shit when nobody, knows who you are. What pathetic third world shithole are you from? If i'm ever in your piss ant country i'll just wait for the UN relief trucks to roll by and then get some food, besides rice is pretty universal. I'm here in San Antonio, Texas if you ever want a vacation and need some southern hospitality. Make sure to boil your water before drinking.
@hemitime03 Yeah, you're from Texas... Yeah, I bet you're a fucking redneck, aren't you? Your comments show this too. Now go byte a chicken's head off, you pathetic redneck!
@StiviGun1 Come on stinkygun don't be so violent, i'm astounded. And yes i'm a proud redneck who is obviously better educated than you, it's bite not byte. If only the people on you tube could see a pic of your ignorant self. Typical 3rd world trash. You never did say what shithole you're from! scared huh? Anyway when the UN trucks roll through don't take the cigs because they're usually some faggot Euro smokes.
@hemitime03 I guess that 4 an idiot redneck as yr self, looking at my profile 2 see what nationality I ma, is a very hard thing to, isn't it? It takes more than just 2 neurons, I know, but u could still make an effort though... By the way, did u bit that chicken's head off like I told u to, u stupid redneck? & please take a fucking shower. Yr sweat is stinking up the whole place.
@StiviGun1 well after watching the video i scrolled down into the comments section and saw you little argument taking up 2entire comment pages. so i had to go to the 3rd page to see peoples real response to the video
@blacksoilder10 Yeah well, it's the other guy's fault. He replied to me with very stupid comments, even though my comments were not addressed to him. I replied to some1 else, not to him. Not 2 mention that the idiot's reply had nothing to do with this vid. So why don't you bother him instead of me?
@Jospehporta You know, your mother gave birth to a very stupid monkey... What retarded, ebola infested ape did she fuck with 9 months before she shit your nehind the fence, ha?
@StiviGun1 Funny considering you;re a gypsy monkey. Why do so many people on YT think you;re a complete idiot. Ah that's right because you are :) Even your insults are fucking stupid.
@Jospehporta Hmm... Look at your language. No wonder everybody calls you an idiot everywhere you try to post some comments.Really now, aren't you tired of being called stupid over and over again? Get a life, monkey.
@Jospehporta A fact is that your're a social failure, a loser, who harasses people on internet. That's a fact. But what's the matter with you? You seem like you've gone weak... Is this all you can?
@StiviGun1 We already know that you're a "social failure" and "loser". You have some terrible grammar. It isn't my fault you're a thieving gypsy. You're funny but still a poor criminal.
@Jospehporta Well, the fact really is that you're a social failure and a social loser, that's why you harass people all over internet. This is actually a crime, stupid. But tell me, why is it that you only reply to me ONLY on this topic and not on others that I post comments on? What's the matter cunt?
@StiviGun1 Aww you've learnt some more English swear words. I've destroyed you on every video you've tried to argue with me. Its funny you run off all the time and then stalk me on other videos with the same tired insults.
Just look at all the people calling you a moron on your account :)
There is a reason why so many people call you stividumb and that you get warnings from YT.
@Jospehporta You got destroyed on every video you followed me, you idiot. That's why you follow me. Now, you posted your trolling shit on one of another videos that I've posted comments (3 months ago... really, you're a retard). Just stop your shit before everyone starts calling you an idiot on this video as well.
@StiviGun1 Yes I destroyed you and it wasn't just me. Even a gold fish has more intelligence than you. You are so fucking stupid.... probably your gypsy background and pathetic education.
@Jospehporta Yes, Yes, I destroyed you on every single topic you followed me on. Everybodu was calling you a moron and spamming your comments. In fact, you spam every page you post your stupidity on. You're so pathetic. Really, get a life loser and stop harassing me. Stupid cunt.
@StiviGun1 Funny that, considering that everyone calls you an idiot. Hell it was hilarious when you though America's GDP growth was 13%. You obviously don't know the first thing about economics.
Lets face it you're an idiot. You can't even come up with anything original.
@Jospehporta What's funny is how you struggle, like a pathetic little cunt that you are, to bash people on YT... That's funny. Your frustrations (because you're a pathetic helpless cunt that get gets spet on by everybody in real life) are just laughable. YOU, are a laughable and pathetic creature. Just like everybody was telling you on your personal page and that's why you deleted that option. You are just pathetic. really, go kill yourself.
@StiviGun1 A new account? WTF are you talking about you Romanian gypsy scalawag!? That is the first message I ever sent to your smelly ass. Look at my account, its been active for years. You are a failure and I rule hard. Mmmmmm hard...
@StiviGun1 LOL damn you're stupid. I guess you think everyone on YT is the same person because everything calls you a moron. You are living proof that gypsies really are that stupid.
@RifledBarrel Sorry to burst your bubble but the javelin can penetrate upwards of 23 inches of Armour, and the TOW shown in this video can get in the range of 31 inches.
@RifledBarrel Nope... but I'm pretty sure if a TOW hit it the crew would still be reduced to soup! Or any other modern missile/rocket for that matter. I guess you could make the crew out of armour plate! ;-)
It explodes at the top of the tank because that is typically where the armour is weakest. The shaped charge actually fires downwards into the tank's turret, penetrating the relatively weak armour there and causing damage to crew, systems, or ammunition.
@Nasty0suicide It explodes above the tank because the deck armor is thinner. Also, this version of TOW uses a pair of downward-firing Explosively Formed Penetrators (EFPs) instead of a single shaped-charge. EFP is related to a shaped-charge, but only insofar as it being a focused explosion. A shaped charge fires a high velocity, molten jet of metal into a target. EFP's turn a slug of metal into an elongated penetrator rod which as hardened by the time it reaches the target.
If so, than it's a step backwards --- the reason wire-guided missiles came about in the first place was because Radio Command Guided missiles were useless in an EW battlefield (i.e., ALL post-1970 battlefields), and because radio wave echoes from terrain features and comms traffic all messed with the receivers.
Tow. Tube launced optically tracked wire command link guided missile. Thats what it said in the learning manual. a few years ago.
It can penetrate up to 90 cm of armour. Depends on what type of missile you are using. We used a tripod to fire it from, but it can also be fired from a car, tank or helicopter.
its a top attack version, it uses a different kind of shaped charge to punch through a tanks thin top, so it probably couldnt penetrate cheaply upgraded T72Bs with era bricks on top but i sure raped that T62{?}
It also took 110,000 US troops to disloge 22,000 Japanese troups. Now imagine what that scales to for a nation of 72 million. Every US soldier, that is what it was going to take.
Consider that after TWO nuclear bombs on Japanese soil, that there was actual DEBATE about surrender.
IOW, TWO cities destroyed to ashes, AND THEY WERE STILL CONSIDERING FIGHTING TO THE END. Truly incredible.
I always do first research by Wikipedia,but I'll ask: "What year did T.O.W. become wireless?" I was in a TOW unit after I finished my cumpulsory 3 year draft in 1974 infantry & retrained for TOW 6 months later doing 36 full more months.Its a thin copper wire but I'll have to check new products?
RasMajnouni 1 month ago
Wireless Tow missiles? WAT?
peepeevagi 2 months ago
Wait, wireless? Doesn't the W in TOW stand for wire-guided or wire something?
stevewestingale 3 months ago
@stevewestingale TOW - Tube launched Optically tracked Wire commanded link guided missile ;-)
jessheim64 3 months ago
so the TOW doesnt actually hit the target but detonates near it?
Theperson2121 4 months ago
rockets vs t-55!!! YEAH!! what next? F-18 vs Su-7?
AllofStewie 6 months ago 13
@AllofStewie lol
boorelius 1 month ago
@AllofStewie Actually, it's a T-62. But your point still stands.
Elfledel 1 month ago
if it has got no wire... then wouldnt it just be called a TO
101andrewj 6 months ago 4
I HAVE THAT MUCH PROOF IT ISNT FUNNY THE WORLD NEED TO SEE WHAT IM HEARING..
I HAVE MORE LIKE THIS..ALL THE FACES ON MY SIGHT ARE IN MY HOME PLUS IN MY VIDEOS....THE WORLD HAS TO NO ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPERENING TO ME IN MY HOME
stanley03061973 6 months ago
@stanley03061973 proof that TOW Weapon Systems exits? We know this already.
zeppelin67637 4 months ago
@zeppelin67637 MATE I ME ET OR SPIRIT BEINGS I HEAR THE MUNGBEANS
stanley03061973 4 months ago
@stanley03061973 me thinks you been smoking to many mungbeans
zeppelin67637 4 months ago
@stanley03061973 Me thinks you not looking properely what are all those on my home page butterflies there in my videos ..Hello
stanley03061973 4 months ago
you stupid boy....NOT here at the museum! (
schuur10 6 months ago
I was a TOW gunner in the mid 90's. I didn't think the US was still using these.
In the early 90's I was using the Dragon.
choctaw111 7 months ago
What tank is that?? Looks like a second world war tank.
VictumRoManius 8 months ago
@VictumRoManius
T-62 made in 1961, M-48a3 contemporary.
patrikasLTL 7 months ago
@patrikasLTL Ah, ok thanks.
VictumRoManius 7 months ago
I need some miss'le TOW for Christmas to decorate.
Vladek385 9 months ago
I have one of those at home and i use my wireless modem to control it. It fires if the security system I've installed at home is triggered without being disabled within 15 seconds.
stovnergutt 9 months ago
TO missile? :(
TheBMXracer445 9 months ago
Tubelaunched
Optically tracked
Wire(less) guided
?
JVC7400 10 months ago
@JVC7400 No there is a wire in there, it cuts at the tube when, A) missile detonates B) Missile goes out of launch constraints or C) the gunner or pilot push the Wire Cut button.
spartanHI 9 months ago
@spartanHI But if there is a wire would it not then be normal TOW? or if it hits while the wire is cut off...then it is semi-wire-guided or what? :P
JVC7400 9 months ago
@JVC7400 the wire doesn't cut until impact, if the wire is manually cut then the missile will self destruct.
spartanHI 3 days ago
Poster, there is no such thing as a wireless TOW missile. That is what the "W" is for, WIRE GUIDED.
Robbob9933 11 months ago
@Robbob9933 there is a version of the TOW that is wireless its called the ITOW, I know it dosnt sound right becuse the tow is tube launched, optically tracked, wireguided missile but there is an ITOW
miaczynski 9 months ago
@miaczynski ITOW stands for IMPROVED TOW. This has a probe that gives stand off trigger of warhead. There have been several attempts at creating a radio datalink version but these at best increase the cost per missle by 4 times and requires new command system costing several hundred thousand per unit. This version would not provide any benefit. You are talking to an 11H here.
Robbob9933 9 months ago
@Robbob9933 A fellow 11H, I was with the 101st there was talk of an ITOW but Ive never seen one or met someone who fired one, did some research and I think they scraped the idea. Fired a TOW a few times but my favorite weapon is still the M2. Infantry Follow Me!
miaczynski 9 months ago
@miaczynski The ITOW is called the TOW2 now if I remember correctly. I went from non-grunt Marine to 11H Army NG and was sent to TOW school. Due to odd rules at the time, they had to either keep me a Sergeant and OJT me or send me to school and adjust rank to skill level. They were trying to take my Sergeant away but couldn't by law. Well graduated top of class and was retained for skill level evaluation.
Robbob9933 9 months ago
@miaczynski I was checked out to skill level 4, the NG was forced to make me a SFC and make the the TOW platoon Sergeant. Went to summer camp and my paltoon got all the missiles :) My first year ended and they asked me not to return. I was on the "try one" program and NG was the one to choose to walk away. When Gulf War 1 came about the next summer they wanted to recall me but couldn't, I had already completed more than 6 years active service.
Robbob9933 9 months ago
@Robbob9933 Two funny things happend shooting a TOW at a live fire range, the first one I fired shattered both sides of the windsheild in my humve from the backblast and the second time I fired it was at night and my target looked up at me, it was a deer! I was still able to steer the missle away from the dear and still hit the plywood tank though.
miaczynski 9 months ago
@miaczynski The first one sounds like a bad lot similar to the ones we gave to Iran, the sustainer motor kicked in too soon. Me, I got to shoot a real tank after the dragon boys had their go. One of these guys sneezed and all the dragon steering motors went off all at once brrrrrrrp leaving an uncontolled missile with a live warhead. Lucky it hit a tree. I went for the turret / hull junction and missed and went between 2 road wheels.
Robbob9933 9 months ago
Top attack weapons against obsolete armor - that's just overkill.
Breakerchase 1 year ago
they should equip recon marines and cavalry humvees wiht recoiless rifles too, because often TOW missiles are scarce and too far apart for anti-tank and assault artillery.
patrikasLTL 1 year ago
@noradnorthcom THAT WORKS KILLS ENEMY!MADE IN NORTH AMERICA!
bubbascoutreb 1 year ago
@MattGodden123 Wouldn't surprise me. Why do you think the Commies beat the Nazis in WW2? For every 1 Tiger tank there were about 30 T-34s built. But I bet if the numbers were more even the Nazis would beat 'em since the Tiger was almost invincible at the time
WonkyTonkBotty 1 year ago
@WonkyTonkBotty You got that wrong. It was 30 Bradley Tanks for every German tank. The Russians sent their tank production to the remote area of
GeekBoy03 1 year ago
@GeekBoy03 wtf are you talking about? the Bradley tank was introduced by the Americans in the mid 80's. know your facts, fucktard
trueblue151 1 year ago
@trueblue151 YOU JUST GOT YORUSELF FUCKING **PLONKED** FAGGOT ASSED COCK LICK
GeekBoy03 1 year ago
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@trueblue151 There is no such thing as a Bradley Tank.
Robbob9933 11 months ago
@GeekBoy03 No Bradley Tank.
Robbob9933 11 months ago
@Robbob9933 Correct, because technically it's a Infantry Fighting Vehicle
GeekBoy03 11 months ago
@MattGodden123
no that's not true. The force ratio was this.
T-80 < T-72 < T-55 is 1 < 3 < 8
M1a1 < M-60 < M-48 1 < 1 < 2
It's worth noting that the T-72 and T-55 were superior to their counterparts.
patrikasLTL 1 year ago
@patrikasLTL T55s and T72s got their asses handed to them by their respective counterparts in the Sinai and Golon Heights. T72s were ate alive in Gulf War I.
Robbob9933 11 months ago
@Robbob9933
In 1982, T-72s had their asses handed to them.....by TOWs. But no one is going to expect a T-72 to take an ATGM hit at the time and only two or three in one engagement actually suffered autoloader explosions.
Breakerchase 9 months ago
@patrikasLTL Forgot to put the T72 eaters were M60s.
Robbob9933 11 months ago
@Robbob9933
Sinai? Yeah, tank units that ran out of fuel from aerial bombardment in 67. Same for gulf war. Nevermind that they were operating foreign tanks, export model T-72, with an arms embargo in place and no spare parts. And 400 Egyptian tanks on search with no recon against 900 Israeli tanks waiting in ambushes in 73. Same for Golan, except that within 24 hours 90% of Israeli officers were casualties.
It's not like WW II where there's a big difference in tanks, soviet-NATO were much equal
patrikasLTL 11 months ago
@patrikasLTL For GW1 I was referring to the M60 (1 Marine Tank Batallion) to T72 match up at Kuwait International Airport, nose to nose at essentially point blank ranges. Info on this fight keeps getting removed. For Golon Heights, 2 mobility killed Centurians took out 48 T72s.
Robbob9933 11 months ago
@Robbob9933
There were no T-72s in GolAn Heights... liar liar pants on fire
watch?v=NFqal90zgGE
gets removed, yeah ok. well i have my links
Soviet T-72 armor
i4.photobucket(DOT)com/albums/y107/joselu/t72bcav2.jpg
export T-72 armor
onthewaymodels(DOT)com/articles/T-72ReviewA/t-72g.jpg
patrikasLTL 11 months ago
@patrikasLTL Not talking abouit getting removed from YouTube, I'm talking about getting removed from government sites. My guess is that the M60s with the reactive performed much better then the M1s. Second guess is that the Army's Tiger Brigade was held in reserve and was not sent to a tank heavy engagement. The lowest count I have seen is around 300, highest around 500. In the groud portion alone in the Marine area of operations over 1000 Iraqi tanks were taken out.
Robbob9933 11 months ago
@patrikasLTL The T55s and T62s equals in generation of anything the Isrealis had.
Robbob9933 11 months ago
@Robbob9933
sorry, youtube ads a tag for the links, so they dont work. google pic for this "72bcav2.jpg" and this "T-72ReviewA/t-72g.jpg"
patrikasLTL 11 months ago
Single town launcher & 1 round $180.000
T-55 tank for soviet planned economy $8.000
T-72 tank for soviet panned economy $50.000
patrikasLTL 1 year ago 10
@patrikasLTL The Chinese have duplicated the TOW 2, so some one finds it useful.
astrialkil 1 year ago
@patrikasLTL
You need to cost the ex-crew of the tank and lead time to manufacture a tank vs. the missile.
adf999 10 months ago
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@patrikasLTL , you wrote:
T-72 tank for soviet planned economy $50.000, you forgot 4 soldiers, soviet planned economy $10 each, makes $50.040 ! Keep being correct, please!
ThailandHDTV 3 months ago
Most commenters understanding of how shaped charge rounds work is incorrect.
The penetration of tank hull is not by plasma or heat - but by hydrodynamic pressure.- much like a high pressure water jet. The inflow of armour particles and other material sets of secondary explosions within tank. Soviet tanks do not have ammunition protection (eg carousel at base) hence catastrophic results!
Kenilworth24 1 year ago
Wait wait wait...how is it called a TOW when its "wireless"...Tube Launched Optically Tracked "Wire Guided"
harosokman 1 year ago
@harosokman
Basically because it's the same weapon system, Raytheon got a contract by the US army to develop a wireless variant, but it was canceled.
I know the acronym wouldn't make much sense with it but meh lol
OlderG0ds 1 year ago
Isn't a wireless TOW kind of ironic? hehe
dickiesmon 1 year ago
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anas22ful 1 year ago
fake its CG
gardenofarcane 1 year ago
yeah the title makes no sense, this wasn't a TOW, besides the fact that TOW's fucking suck (I used to work on them until they started getting replaced by HF) the TOW missile does not have a proximity fuse or air-burst option. the only two ways for a TOW to explode is either direct hit or if the missile flew out of the constraints of the launcher.
spartanHI 1 year ago
@spartanHI And why do the TOWs missiles suck? And what is that HF that u say started to replace the TOW? I never heard of that?
StiviGun1 1 year ago
TOW missle "Tube-launched, Optically-tracked, Wire data link, guided missile"
It is a wire guided missile.
fang1998 1 year ago
@fang1998 There is also a wireless version, which allows the missile to have a longer range.
StiviGun1 1 year ago
That would be cool without the hillbilly southern accent in the background.
Doggieman1111 1 year ago
a missle with a wire connected to the launch system is a tow launcher, so wireless tow launcher impossible, thats laser guided missles thats wireless, and goes where your aiming
chrispymuffin 1 year ago
"TOW" stands for "Tube-launched, Optically-tracked, Wire data link, guided missile" so how is it Wireless?
doodskie999 1 year ago
@doodskie999 well fucking said my man, dumbasses these days just post shit without doing research on it. America ftw
chrispymuffin 1 year ago
The Marine Coprs hase adopted the SABER system now which is an upgrade of the TOW2 it now can lock onto multiple targets and uses a GPS satalite system called PADS
Tylereolson 1 year ago
I was a TOW Missile Gunner.
I was also a Dragon Gunner in the 82nd Airborne.
There were many improvements made to the TOW over its lifespan and the capabilities, even today, are quite remarkable...and the missile goes a lot faster than 400 miles per hour ;)
choctaw111 1 year ago
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123budu 1 year ago
The TOW's effect on modern armor is the same as on old armor: it destroys it. As far as hitting moving targets, it is very easy and can be accomplished from far beyond the range of any tank's weapons. The only way the target can escape is if it can maneuver into a concrete building or under (not just behind) natural cover or if the comman wires are broken...hard to do when you're trying to dodge a missile that moves at about 400 mph.
skyfrog69 1 year ago
Not true. The TOW2B will defeat 36" of armor. TOW stands for Tube launched, Optically tracked, Wire guided missile.
skyfrog69 1 year ago
As I know the TOW stands for Wire guided!
wasilijsaizev 1 year ago
It moves like a ball struck by Juninho XD
yomama629 1 year ago
these missiles are always tested on old Soviet tanks like the T-72 or T-64 and besides I have never seen evidence of such missiles against moving targets or for suepuesto, with some newer models like the T - 80 remodeled or the T-90
hermosotealonso 1 year ago
there is no large difrence in the armor bitween the t-72 and t-80
yairbe5 1 year ago
sure we do not know the exact details of the Russian combat elements on the one hand some things are known and others not. The Americans advertise their weapons with what you know most or all of their technology but this way is easier to sell to their countries allies and profit Economy, which Russia did not do so well
hermosotealonso 1 year ago
Agreed. Wherever those videos are, they haven't made it to Youtube yet.
Personally, I'd prefer that certain military testing documentation which has been released were still kept secret, but TOW's have been around for quite some time now. Most adversaries would already be familiar with its capabilities.
I'd like to see its effects on modern armor.
User8571 1 year ago
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if it's a TOW than it would not be wireless ,the W in TOW stands for wired
corporacionmonstruo 1 year ago
Damn that is one slow missile, its night when they fire it but its like noon when it hits
blowmeliberal 2 years ago
i guess if you consider 275 meters / second to be slow.
OlderG0ds 1 year ago
that the target is hit. ITAS stands for Improved Target Acquisition System, or improved tow. It incorporates a integrated day and night sight, where as the TOW has separate day and night sights.
The Javelin and Dragon are both fire and forget, they have cameras in the missile that allow it to stay on target.
and the TOW 2A has a two warheads, one for the upgraded armor, the second to destroy. the TOW 2B flies above the target and the warhead shots down, which is what happens in this video,
MrDanielfrye 2 years ago
I am a Army Vet who is trained as a 27E land combat electronic missile systems repairer. I am trained to repair the TOW, TOW ITAS, Bradley TOW, Javelin, and Dragon firing systems. the TOW stands for Tubular launched, Optically tracked, Wire Guided. when the tow is launched a fishing line size wire uncoils from the rear of the missile, upto about 2,000 feet, you must track your target until it hits our until you run out of line. how ever the missile times your movements in tracking to insure
MrDanielfrye 2 years ago
Well there has been developmental work to make a wireless version of TOW skinnyscout. As for why? As DesiArcy said, you can fire on the move. The missile can also fly faster as you don't have to worry about breaking wires. And be fired over and through tangled terrain where the concern is raised that the wire can snag on some terrain feature and break the link.
MorganKeyes 2 years ago
if it's a TOW than it would not be wireless
skinnyscout 2 years ago
Exactly, the W in TOW stands for wired.
dunlopsouth 2 years ago
Hughes developed a TOW missile with a wireless data link in 1989, referred to as TOW-2N, but this weapon was not adopted for use by the US military
this tow 2b aero which a much advanced version.......idiot
RIEKSONE 2 years ago
whats the point of making the link system wireless? I would think that because it still has to be guided to the target optical why not stick with a wire based command link because it is cheaper and less complicated then a wireless link and is not effected by interference
thoughts?
nuty1234 2 years ago
@nuty1234 The main reason is that a wireless guided missile can be fired while the vehicle is moving, whereas the existing wire-guided TOW requires the vehicle to come to a stop and remain stationary throughout the missile's flight in order to avoid breaking the guidance wires.
DesiArcy 2 years ago
napalm ftw =)
SkullKing11841 2 years ago 8
the answer is simple man....build a tank with min 12" thick armour all round..and power it by a small nuclear propulsion drive....no infantry-fired missile will get through that
RifledBarrel 2 years ago 12
so wrong...
EcksPwnsAll 2 years ago
but what would happen if the nuclear drive had a melt down?
then you would have cernobil all over again
starsiegeRoks 2 years ago
yeah, that was caused by a nuclear tank
0/10
IAmNotATroll11 2 years ago
Nuclear Tank.... seems like science fiction to me.
Cheedillow 2 years ago
Its very expensive, they will get a big bad bunker buster to kill expensive targets.
falls0ft 2 years ago
@RifledBarrel What do you intend to do when an EMP takes out the electronics preventing it from causing a meltdown? Or thermite, for that matter.
Grimmcorpse 1 year ago
@RifledBarrel The concussion would suck!
atom2009 1 year ago
@RifledBarrel
a bloke with a load a patience and a hand grenade might destroy it (:
LewisYounger16 1 year ago
@RifledBarrel Too bad it wouldn't be able to move by itself.
Nuclear power doesn't work that way. A nuclear battery wouldn't provide nearly enough power to move the thing, and a nuclear reactor wouldn't fit in a tank.
panzerfaust777 1 year ago
@panzerfaust777 Make a Gundam!
CanadianSoldier67 1 year ago
@RifledBarrel 12" thick armour, but somehow no infantry missile will get through that. Where did u get this from? The modern infantry fired missiles, like the TOW, the Kornet, the Metis M, can penetrate over 800mm of RHA behind ERA. How is yr 12" mm thick armor stand up to that, ha? & u want 2 put nuclear propulsion into something that gets shoot at with powerful missiles & other type of projectiles? You're joking, right?
StiviGun1 1 year ago
@StiviGun1 Learn how to spell, and learn the difference between mm, and inches. You sound like a European sizzle chest.
hemitime03 1 year ago
@hemitime03 I know how 2 spell in English much better than many Americans that I talked 2, so shut yr fucking cake hole! & 12", u idiot, is 25cm, which is not a problem at 4 a missile that can penetrate over 1m of RHA, get it? & tell me again abt that nuclear powered tank... I really laughed at that one. U should hide that comment b4 anymore people will read it & b4 u will make a fool out of yr self even more...
StiviGun1 1 year ago
@StiviGun1 You're a dumbass, i said nothing about a nuclear powered tank someone else suggested that. 12"mm is retarded note the inch designation after the 12 . You Rhodes Scholars never cease to amaze me. I'm beginning to think you're a french faggot.
hemitime03 1 year ago
@hemitime03 R u fucking retarded? What the fuck is "12"mm" u stupid fuck? I know perfectly well, u fucking little shit, the difference between the inches & mm. Much better than you do. So why don;t u go fuck yr self, you stupid bitch!?
StiviGun1 1 year ago
@StiviGun1 Calm down stinkygun, or your mommy will take your gameboy away, and make you stay in your basement room til you can speak nicely. And no more Daisy Red Rider BB gun.
hemitime03 1 year ago
@hemitime03 In "basement"? I don't even have a basement & in my country this is not even practiced. That's probably what your mommy's doing to you. Does your daddy comes drunk at night in your room sometimes? Hahahaha! Now go do something more useful, like hanging yourself and stop bothering me.
StiviGun1 1 year ago
@StiviGun1 Way to go stinkygun, you once again showed your illiteracy, " Does your daddy comes drunk at night in your room" Did your mommy have any kids that lived? Happy trails faggot.
hemitime03 1 year ago
@hemitime03 Hey, go fuck yr self! U don't even know how 2 ask for food in my language, so go screw your self with yr entire family, u pathetic yank prick!
StiviGun1 1 year ago
@StiviGun1 Het stinkygun it's easy to talk shit when nobody, knows who you are. What pathetic third world shithole are you from? If i'm ever in your piss ant country i'll just wait for the UN relief trucks to roll by and then get some food, besides rice is pretty universal. I'm here in San Antonio, Texas if you ever want a vacation and need some southern hospitality. Make sure to boil your water before drinking.
hemitime03 1 year ago
@hemitime03 Yeah, you're from Texas... Yeah, I bet you're a fucking redneck, aren't you? Your comments show this too. Now go byte a chicken's head off, you pathetic redneck!
StiviGun1 1 year ago
@StiviGun1 Come on stinkygun don't be so violent, i'm astounded. And yes i'm a proud redneck who is obviously better educated than you, it's bite not byte. If only the people on you tube could see a pic of your ignorant self. Typical 3rd world trash. You never did say what shithole you're from! scared huh? Anyway when the UN trucks roll through don't take the cigs because they're usually some faggot Euro smokes.
hemitime03 1 year ago
@hemitime03 I guess that 4 an idiot redneck as yr self, looking at my profile 2 see what nationality I ma, is a very hard thing to, isn't it? It takes more than just 2 neurons, I know, but u could still make an effort though... By the way, did u bit that chicken's head off like I told u to, u stupid redneck? & please take a fucking shower. Yr sweat is stinking up the whole place.
StiviGun1 1 year ago
@StiviGun1 could the 2 of you idiots shut the fuck up and take your argument somewhere alse
blacksoilder10 1 year ago
@blacksoilder10 why don't u mind your own business? Nobody was talking to you?
StiviGun1 1 year ago
@StiviGun1 well after watching the video i scrolled down into the comments section and saw you little argument taking up 2entire comment pages. so i had to go to the 3rd page to see peoples real response to the video
blacksoilder10 1 year ago
@blacksoilder10 Yeah well, it's the other guy's fault. He replied to me with very stupid comments, even though my comments were not addressed to him. I replied to some1 else, not to him. Not 2 mention that the idiot's reply had nothing to do with this vid. So why don't you bother him instead of me?
StiviGun1 1 year ago
@StiviGun1 ok i diddnt know that
blacksoilder10 1 year ago
@blacksoilder10 's all right.
StiviGun1 1 year ago
@StiviGun1 LMAO stividumbass. The only idiot here is you, we all know that.
Jospehporta 2 months ago
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@hemitime03 could the 2 of you idiots shut the fuck up and take your argument somewhere alse
blacksoilder10 1 year ago
@StiviGun1 Why would you ask for food in your country, you just steal it, like the filthy gypsy you are.
Jospehporta 2 months ago
@StiviGun1 You don't even have houses in your country, you live in caves and shit in your hands.
Jospehporta 2 months ago
@Jospehporta You know, your mother gave birth to a very stupid monkey... What retarded, ebola infested ape did she fuck with 9 months before she shit your nehind the fence, ha?
StiviGun1 2 months ago
@StiviGun1 Funny considering you;re a gypsy monkey. Why do so many people on YT think you;re a complete idiot. Ah that's right because you are :) Even your insults are fucking stupid.
Jospehporta 2 months ago
@Jospehporta Hmm... Look at your language. No wonder everybody calls you an idiot everywhere you try to post some comments.Really now, aren't you tired of being called stupid over and over again? Get a life, monkey.
StiviGun1 2 months ago
@StiviGun1 OMG you're talking to yourself now. So not only are you stupid, you're bat shit crazy as well :)
Jospehporta 2 months ago
@Jospehporta Is this supposed to be an insult...? Dumbass.
StiviGun1 2 months ago
@StiviGun1 No mate a statement of fact. You're shit bat crazy. Now get back to your gypsy cave.
Jospehporta 2 months ago
@Jospehporta A fact is that your're a social failure, a loser, who harasses people on internet. That's a fact. But what's the matter with you? You seem like you've gone weak... Is this all you can?
StiviGun1 2 months ago
@StiviGun1 We already know that you're a "social failure" and "loser". You have some terrible grammar. It isn't my fault you're a thieving gypsy. You're funny but still a poor criminal.
Jospehporta 2 months ago
@Jospehporta Well, the fact really is that you're a social failure and a social loser, that's why you harass people all over internet. This is actually a crime, stupid. But tell me, why is it that you only reply to me ONLY on this topic and not on others that I post comments on? What's the matter cunt?
StiviGun1 2 months ago
@StiviGun1 Aww you've learnt some more English swear words. I've destroyed you on every video you've tried to argue with me. Its funny you run off all the time and then stalk me on other videos with the same tired insults.
Just look at all the people calling you a moron on your account :)
There is a reason why so many people call you stividumb and that you get warnings from YT.
Jospehporta 2 months ago
@Jospehporta You got destroyed on every video you followed me, you idiot. That's why you follow me. Now, you posted your trolling shit on one of another videos that I've posted comments (3 months ago... really, you're a retard). Just stop your shit before everyone starts calling you an idiot on this video as well.
StiviGun1 2 months ago
@StiviGun1 Yes I destroyed you and it wasn't just me. Even a gold fish has more intelligence than you. You are so fucking stupid.... probably your gypsy background and pathetic education.
Jospehporta 2 months ago
@Jospehporta Yes, Yes, I destroyed you on every single topic you followed me on. Everybodu was calling you a moron and spamming your comments. In fact, you spam every page you post your stupidity on. You're so pathetic. Really, get a life loser and stop harassing me. Stupid cunt.
StiviGun1 2 months ago
@StiviGun1 Funny that, considering that everyone calls you an idiot. Hell it was hilarious when you though America's GDP growth was 13%. You obviously don't know the first thing about economics.
Lets face it you're an idiot. You can't even come up with anything original.
Jospehporta 2 months ago
@Jospehporta What's funny is how you struggle, like a pathetic little cunt that you are, to bash people on YT... That's funny. Your frustrations (because you're a pathetic helpless cunt that get gets spet on by everybody in real life) are just laughable. YOU, are a laughable and pathetic creature. Just like everybody was telling you on your personal page and that's why you deleted that option. You are just pathetic. really, go kill yourself.
StiviGun1 2 months ago
@StiviGun1 Aww still regurgitating the same old shit. FUNNY.
Jospehporta 2 months ago
@StiviGun1 Stop picking on Jospehporta you filthy gypsy! Get back in your cave!
rltw04 2 months ago
@rltw04 Hmm... Interesting. You created another account... Damn, you're pathetic. Stop harassing me, bitch! Get lost, you pathetic obsessed cunt.
StiviGun1 2 months ago
@StiviGun1 A new account? WTF are you talking about you Romanian gypsy scalawag!? That is the first message I ever sent to your smelly ass. Look at my account, its been active for years. You are a failure and I rule hard. Mmmmmm hard...
rltw04 2 months ago
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@rltw04 You have a dozen of accounts that you use to stalk and harass people on YT. Get lost bitch and stop stalking me.
StiviGun1 2 months ago
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@StiviGun1 LOL damn you're stupid. I guess you think everyone on YT is the same person because everything calls you a moron. You are living proof that gypsies really are that stupid.
Jospehporta 2 months ago
@Jospehporta Hahaha you just said you destroyed someone on youtube arguments. Damn you're tough! Who are you calling pathetic again?
rltw04 2 months ago
@RifledBarrel JTF.org forum
TheMryankov 1 year ago
@RifledBarrel it woud cost a 10000000000 $ and it wud be taken by an thrmite rocket + one tow o and that nuclear boooooooooooooom
raskec1 1 year ago
@RifledBarrel good luck movin it anywhere..
AdamChed 1 year ago
@RifledBarrel Sorry to burst your bubble but the javelin can penetrate upwards of 23 inches of Armour, and the TOW shown in this video can get in the range of 31 inches.
spudinator2 1 year ago
@RifledBarrel
I'm not really sure that the answer to infantery anti-tank weapons is a nuclear engine.
arasaka2020tm 1 year ago
@arasaka2020tm is the only thing powerul enough to powe someting covered with 12 foot of steel and uranium
TheAlexagius 1 year ago
@RifledBarrel Nope... but I'm pretty sure if a TOW hit it the crew would still be reduced to soup! Or any other modern missile/rocket for that matter. I guess you could make the crew out of armour plate! ;-)
jamiefraser85 11 months ago
looks like a T-62
MayjorPaine 2 years ago
It explodes at the top of the tank because that is typically where the armour is weakest. The shaped charge actually fires downwards into the tank's turret, penetrating the relatively weak armour there and causing damage to crew, systems, or ammunition.
Zealot1011 2 years ago
thanks
IceXtremeDotcom 2 years ago
Why does it explore above the tank?
Nasty0suicide 2 years ago
@Nasty0suicide It explodes above the tank because the deck armor is thinner. Also, this version of TOW uses a pair of downward-firing Explosively Formed Penetrators (EFPs) instead of a single shaped-charge. EFP is related to a shaped-charge, but only insofar as it being a focused explosion. A shaped charge fires a high velocity, molten jet of metal into a target. EFP's turn a slug of metal into an elongated penetrator rod which as hardened by the time it reaches the target.
MorganKeyes 1 year ago
toe, three, for, fahv, six
shadyman2000 2 years ago
lol i was laughing so hard the way he said it
wanbesolidaboy 2 years ago
The title is TOW missle system Wireless. How could TOW be wireless. If its wireless then why they call is TOW.
mjnaushad2000 2 years ago
"Tube-launched Optically-tracked Wire-to-command-Link"
So in this case it means:
"Tube-launched Optically-tracked Wireless-to-command-Link"
shadyman2000 2 years ago
Thanks man. I didnt know that. Thanks for the info. Studid me. I should have thought that its "wireless" instead of "wire." Thanks again
mjnaushad2000 2 years ago
@mjnaushad2000 well, that's simple. TOW could also mean "tube launched optically tracked wireless guided missile". Get it now?
StiviGun1 1 year ago
That wireless cra isn't gonna go, especially after all the money poured into the M41 Saber. 0352 represent!
mshapiola 3 years ago
The saber has an upgrade kit waiting for the wireless missiles. They developed it all alongside the saber. Who are you with bro?
Blacklung27 2 years ago
Is this Radio Command Guided?
If so, than it's a step backwards --- the reason wire-guided missiles came about in the first place was because Radio Command Guided missiles were useless in an EW battlefield (i.e., ALL post-1970 battlefields), and because radio wave echoes from terrain features and comms traffic all messed with the receivers.
BlacktailFA 3 years ago
Tow. Tube launced optically tracked wire command link guided missile. Thats what it said in the learning manual. a few years ago.
It can penetrate up to 90 cm of armour. Depends on what type of missile you are using. We used a tripod to fire it from, but it can also be fired from a car, tank or helicopter.
bjoernaldo 2 years ago
As said before
Tube-launched Optically Tracked Wire-guided(Missile system)
Bastardsword01 3 years ago
its a top attack version, it uses a different kind of shaped charge to punch through a tanks thin top, so it probably couldnt penetrate cheaply upgraded T72Bs with era bricks on top but i sure raped that T62{?}
asianiinvasion 3 years ago
It also took 110,000 US troops to disloge 22,000 Japanese troups. Now imagine what that scales to for a nation of 72 million. Every US soldier, that is what it was going to take.
Consider that after TWO nuclear bombs on Japanese soil, that there was actual DEBATE about surrender.
IOW, TWO cities destroyed to ashes, AND THEY WERE STILL CONSIDERING FIGHTING TO THE END. Truly incredible.
The Japanese Militarists are to blame.
No one else.
leeraconteur 3 years ago 2