Bottom line: if you're looking for less crime, the USA is not the place for you! And stats show a vast improvement here in the USA over the 1980s and 90s, especially in New York.
That's USA 7.5. In total crime it is much closer: USA ranks #8 with 80 per 1000; Germany #11 with 75. I noticed that Germany is #1 in drug offenses by a wide margin. what's going on there? IMO there shouldn't be drug offenses. I did think Germany was smarter than that; like Switzerland and Netherlands are.
I don't know why, but Alcohol and Drugs are very popular among young people. Not hard drugs though, mostly weed, coke and speed.
I've seen kids as young as 11 smoking weed while I was in school. The legal drinking age here is 14 (for beer and if accompanied by an adult), 16 for buying beer and 18 for everything else. I think we have the most alcoholics in Europe aside from Poland and Slovakia, if I recall. I was in Slovakia once, everyone there seemed to be drunk even my taxi driver
The site where I got the stats did explain, I saw; saying Germany is a distribution and financial center. So most of the crimes are about the big drug business, not users, it appears. I would call coke and speed "hard" drugs, but as for the statistic of Germany as #1, you report lots of Germans use drugs and alcohol, but are lots of users and/or dealers being arrested and jailed? In the USA we have lots of people in jail, a good proportion of them black drug users and dealers.
No, users aren't jailed here. Actually the consumption itself is not illegal, it's just illegal to buy, own or traffic the stuff (which theoretically makes it illegal to get to the point where you can consume it).
Kuner1: stats can be deceiving, but I looked up a couple of things. In education you appear to be right; Germany is mediocre, which is surprising given their economic leadership position. In crime the US has 16,000 murders (5th place) per capita while Germany has 914 (still high enough for 18th place), and most smaller European nations are among the best.
Free marketeers frame the issue as the "size of government," but its really about allowing rich people to keep their money, and to make it while keeping everyone else poor and screwing the public and the planet. THEY want to be the government, instead of the people.
Actually rich people don't usually "keep" their money, because it would just lose value. Rich people either spend or invest their money. Both means the money goes somewhere and is put to work. Usually people will be a lot more careful and also effective about spending their own money than a government is. A government shoulp provide basic services & security, but every other penny they take from the population is missed by the people.
The trickle-down theory is false. even free-marketeers in the USA don't use it as much as their anti-government rhetoric. Govt investment is needed because business is only interested in short term profit. Long-term projects for the public good need govt help. People are not more careful; witness credit card debt, and the indulgence you mention above. We do have "pork," though, which is not spneing per se but allocation for political purposes; both parties do it.
Being only interested in short term profit is actually a sign of bad business. Good business is always interested in keeping their customers happy.
Yes, both political partys have a lot of pork spending, you have that everywhere were people get to spend money they didn't actually earn themselves. That alone is reason enough to restrict government spending to the bare minimum.
Yes Kuner, but that is what characterizes most business-- interest in short term gain. Also narrow interest; only their own and not the community's. All business requires investment in infrastructure and other capital; business alone can't do it; it requires the govt and always has. Restricting money to those who "earn" it is resentment; not a real basis for policy but instead a crippling ideology. The rich do not earn their money; they extort it, inherit it, steal it from society.
Wouldn't say so. I'm quite wealthy myself (not rich yet), and I have neither inherited it, nor have I extorted or stolen it from anyone. I worked my ass off for it, didn't have a day off for 7 years, but I developed a product no one else did and that people enjoy. Not only that, but I now employ a few people as well. I've given to society and society gave me in return. I never took from anyone.
If you are not rich I'm not talking about you. You aren't even an American, so circumstances are way different anyway. American cEOs get huge salaries and bonuses and make 100+ times more than the workers who actually create the wealth. In a free market, it is the greedy and aggressive who drive others out of business and dominate the market. You are not alone in your wealth; society's investments gave it to you. Individualism is just blind to the facts. Resentment is not economics.
Sure, some CEOs earn tons of money. But what's wrong with that? It's not you or me who is paying for it. If some corporation owner (or owners i.e. shareholders) agree to pay a guy 100 million a year since he earns the company 500 million, then that's their deal. Why would one want to interfere, that'd be the same as if one would limit the amount of money a plumber can charge. If someone charges too much, he'll be out of work soon enough.
@Kuner1 I don't think it's right. We all pay for the high salaries, because we pay the prices and invest in their businesses and financial instruments. The market doesn't work to limit how much people make, if some people dominate the market and the company others works for. CEOs get high salaries because they rule their company. Wealth = power, so when someone has too much money, democracy is in danger. We do in fact live in an oligarchy in the USA. Money rules.
Sure we pay their salaries by buying their products (or investing in their business otherwise). But at least we are free to not buy their product, if we don't approve of it. With the government, we don't have that choice, we don't give to them, they take from us.
When rich people spend money, it benefits them and not the economy. when poor people spend money, it goes to basic needs we all have and the economy prospers.
Actually the economy doesn't prosper as much by basic needs being covered because those rarely fuel innovation, creating jobs in the process. Still all money spent by the people is good.
If you buy a car for example, you try to buy the car that suits your needs best and at the best price possible. No government official could do that better than you. Same goes for all spending and investing. Ideally the US economy would have 300 mil people spending their money as effectively as they could.
We're not talking about who shops. Stimulus and welfare is good for the economy because it puts money in peoples pockets, and builds infrastructure at the same time. Mixed economies are best; not socialist, not individualist.
Actually the stimulus could have been a prime example of how to get an economy going: by giving out money. The same goes for nearly all incentives to spend money: Be it the cash for clunkers program or the tax deductable donations for haiti. When they really want to, politicians already know how to stimulate the economy: By cutting taxes. Most politicians nowadays are more interested in taking over the economy, because they think they know best and earn earn millions by redistributing money.
Cutting taxes can stimulate the economy, if its given to the people, not just the rich. The rich need to pay more; they cause the problems with their speculation, monopolies, pollution, low wages and bad working conditions. But cutting taxes alone causes huge deficits, and if you cut spending on the wrong things, you don't create conditions for growth. Mixed solutions are best; not fanatical right-wing, free-market libertarian economics. It's just a religion; it doesn't work in the real world.
Agreed, you gotta spend to create conditions for growth, like infrastructure, education etc. Got no problem with that at all. You want the state to build roads, bridges, you want health inspections, fire fighters, police etc. You want these things to work and the ones responsible for them to answer to the people, not a corporation. Totally agree.
It's juast gone way beyond that, the governments are throwing money out the window and are hurting the economy and the people themselves
@Kuner1 Good, we agree. I also agree that governments throw away money; we need to hold them accountable. I am a financial moderate, but we disagree about what constitutes throwing money away.
@Kuner1 My opinion: it is pork projects meant to boost political standing. Social engineering is a buzz word, but if society needs to use less oil, for example, then policies should encourage that.
We're talking about high salaries, the CEOs and other financial jugglers get 1000s more than workers who equally deserve it, just because they run the company. Wealthy people have too much power. Therefore, it's not wrong to tax them at a higher rate; higher than we do in the USA.
still better than one who wants to expand government.
besides, if you actually listen to bush during interviews, he doesn't spound dumb at all. he's no einstein, but he's a pragmatic thinker and he has a good sense of humor.
My point that it is not about style over substance, as you said. If the "democrat government" is broken, it is the republicans who broke it. It is not about expanding government; it is about making the right choices about what government does. You right-wingers make ALL the wrong choices. Unnecessary wars, torturing our enemies, causing depressions, keeping a few rich and the many poor, advancing the delusion that "the market will take care of it" when it only takes care of the greedy; etc.
oh come on, waterboarding is not torture. read up on what the chinese, north koreans or russians do for a lot lesser reasons thans plotting terror attacks. you'd rather risk innocent lives instead?
the depression was caused by the subprime mortgage crisis, itself the result of leftist policys forcing the banks to hand out loans no one in their right mind would approve.
the market actually does take care of itself, if it's left alone for once
Us lefties are not going to let you right wingers get away with your nonsense. Everyone who is informed know that lefties did not force banks to give away loans; that was just another deregulation scheme in the Reagan mold, and many Democrats have aped his ways. Many people took those loans that had nothing to do with lefty politicians, and then the big banks created "instruments" out of bundles of them and sold them on margin. If you don't know about derivatives, you show how ignorant you are.
The market NEVER takes care of itself. Everyone is not eager to share wealth and power. Let the market alone, and a few greedy and powerful people dominate it and make all of society's rules. That is just another kind of "government" of the corporate kind. Of course waterboarding is torture, and it saves no lives; it just encourages more terrorism against us and makes us total hypocrites.
The USA has supported dictatorships for years. We made Haiti what it is today with 60 years of corrupt totalitarian rule. Yet we preach ideals of freedom. We need to live up to our ideals or stop preaching them. I guess that's no concern of yours, being a German. So why defend right wing wackos in the USA? Germans today are smarter than we are. Why are you supporting American wackos? Are you lonely? Too few of you over there, Kuner?
Because I know America and have plans to move there sometime soon, simply to get away from over-taxation and this broken beaurocratic nightmare here.
You think Germans are smarter? Guess you haven't been here, education is miserable (I know it isn't great in America, too, but at least you have some elite schools), crime is high (murder rate of Berlin has passed New York), taxes are rdiculous and all the money goes to corrupt politicians and people on welfare who refuse to work
I've been thinking about the opposite move. Sounds like you are on the make. For an aspiring entrepreneur who wants to get rich and has lots of money, America is a good place. For most others, it sucks. But your report is worth considering; maybe I'll do some checking. Of course, in America right-wing people say the exact same thing about where their money goes; it's just slogans. Germans are very literate and informed; why say education is miserable there? On college you are probably right.
It will be hard to find accurate info except from people who actually live here. I'll try to go through various points in my replys to you.
Germans are indeed very literate, but they aren't tought to think "outside the box". That is why I say the education system is poor. We have 3 basic school branches with no specialization for certain classes. Everyone must learn everything, which means that the learning tempo orientates itself by the slowest student in class.
Unfortunately students in the USA are no longer taught to think outside the box either. This is a concern, given the importance of American innovation for the USA and the world. Since the Reagan era there is a "back to basics" mania, and all students are tested to make sure they learn them. So teachers teach to the test. We also ended tracking (a "liberal" idea, to be sure), but as a sub teacher I notice there are some slower and faster classes, but mostly everyone's in one pot here too.
Obama is moving QUICKLY to the right everyday wether he's union bashing with his healthcare bill(taxing "cadilac" plans) or embracing tax breaks for the rich, he doesnt care about his progressive base. Now most progressives arent in favor of tax increases on business because that can/will effect jobs but thinking increasing capital gains tax to 20-25% is going to "kill" investing in utter nonsense or that increasing personal income taxes from 36% to 39-40% is not communist.
He's not moving right or left . He's communist, he is also a puppet who is saying what his puppet masters are telling him to say. There is no change from the Lil cowboy monkey George to the Kenyan monkey Barry. The new healthscare crisis is a clown show and the terror war is a farce. The war on drugs should be against the pharma co's. These idiots have destroyed what was once a great nation.Wake up its time for the Second American Revolution. Today.
communist? communist? im so fuckin sick & tired of people using big words they dont understand, read the communist manifesto and see what it really means! NOw i agree with some of what you said but you take things out of context. THIER IS A HEALTHCARE crisis & it was created by the insurance companies and pharma. The war on terror is a farce for profit,ill give you that one. he isnt kenyan & lots of his ideas in his speech last night were from the right.
Stop supporting parties that only want to lead this country. Its up to the people to lead this country not a selected few politicians to lead the people and this Great Country. Both the Democrats and Republicans are in denial of there roles for the people and this country.
Support The Whig Party, join, file for electoral. For a more centrist supportive role for the people and the Government under the Constitution.
Taxpayers in California will pay $132.6 billion for total Iraq and Afghanistan war spending since 2001. For the same amount of money, the following could have been provided:
54,556,982 People with Health Care for One Year OR
1,872,544 Music and Arts Teachers for One Year OR
19,920,760 Scholarships for University Students for One Year OR
396,771 Affordable Housing Units OR
236,176,080 Homes with Renewable Electricity for One Year
"Give me the money that has been spent in war and I will clothe every man, woman, and child in an attire of which kings and queens will be proud. I will build a schoolhouse in every valley over the whole earth. I will crown every hillside with a place of worship consecrated to peace." ~Charles Sumner
I support President Obama, but I think he's been distracted lately. He promised he'll bring the troops home. This war is just a waste of life, time and money. 4374 US casualities in Iraq. 972 US casualities in Afghanistan. Total cost of both wars is $953,673,500,018 and this number is rapidly increasing. Is it worth it to spend $200 million a day when unemployment is high? More important things to fight for: hunger, poverty, diseases, education.
Those who gave warning from the onset are not busy casting nets, and they welcome the demise of our Democratic Party. This is particularly due to President Obama being a compulsive liar, and now no one can believe another Democrat will ever deliver a thing he or she promises. President Obama has filled the Democratic Party hot air balloon to the limit and it has burst. It falls like a failing parachute taking along nearly everyone of us within the Democratic Party.
News just in: NASA confirms the 2000s were the hottest decade on record. You can have the conspiracy nuts; I'll take NASA. Meanwhile the free-market ideologues' great hero, Exxon-Mobil, caused another big oil spill. Europe requires double-hulled tankers; the USA does not. Why? Because of free-market ideology and the corporate money lobbying it enables.
no duh its rigged everyone is rigged for both sides.... bush had a crazy amount of pardens..u know why because u told people to do illeagle things to get his vote higher........then he just pardens him out of jail...
Bush = Tripled the Size of Govt, Got us into two wars, spent us into a recession, gave us Patriot Act, Guantanamo Bay, torture, supported Federal Reserve, supported bailouts and stimulus plans, supported bogus war on terror,drug war
Obama = OUTBUSHED BUSH on spending, supported bailouts and had own stimulus plan, continued the wars, continued patriot act, continued rendition, torture, guantanamo bay, supports federal reserve,continues bogus war on terror, drug war,rendition
If we break it, we own it. Anything less is insanely irresponsible, regarding the middle east. The bailouts had bipartisan support and economists across the board believe it prevented global depression, not recession. The stimulus is supported across the board by mainstream economists. Secret prisons were shut down and rendition of CIA detainees has been going on for 40 years. Congress, especially the GOP opposed shutting down Guantanamo and tied Obama's hands.
@synapsecracklepop The Mainstream economists did not see the crisis coming along with Ben Bernanke! The same people that are saying bailouts and stimulus helped the economy and that we are on the path to improvement are the same people who were DEAD WRONG and were saying the economy was doing great when in fact we were sliding downward and it was easily seen by many Economists from the AUSTRIAL SCHOOL OF ECONOMICS AND LUDWIG VON MISES INSTITUTE. Obama does not support audit of the fed. PUPPET
@pgunn01 No they didn't. Bernanke didnt see it, when Peter Schiff was on TV in 2005 and 2006 everyone in the media was making fun of him and saying everything was great. Austrian school of economics is not discredited whatsoever, they predicted the depression of 1929 and predicted the economic collapse we are witnessing right now. Please watch "Peter schiff was right"
Many mainstream economists saw it - I don't know if Bernanke did, but he is not exactly an academic economist (I'm don't much like him, fwiw).
The Austrian school isn't a true academic school - it's a bunch of politicos who want to justify libertarianism, not people who study markets. They have no credibility in academia, and so they're usually ignored except by Libertarians and some conservatives.
@pgunn01 Again incorrect. Mainstream economists did not see this coming whatsoever they lied and said everything was great. Austrian school of economics is not a bunch of politicos it is filled with economists who write many books
(ludwig von mises, murray rothbard, hayek was even a noble prize winner) The reason they have not been mentioned in the mainstream is because they tell the truth, and they have been ignored by the NEOconservatives on fox news because they follow keynesian economics.
Everyone uses Keynesian economics because it's the dominant economic theory. If you walk onto any university campus pretty much anywhere in the world, you'll have a very tough time finding an Austrian-school economist in their Economics department. Libertarian think tanks are pretty much the only place you can easily spot them.
Libertarian propogandists love to pretend that Austrian economists are the only people who saw this. They're simply wrong. Nobody debunks them because they're trolls.
You want Obama to discontinue the Federal Reserve, reverse 30 years of Drug Policy, and foreign policy in the twinkling of an eye.... and because he can't or won't, you compare him to Bush? 2/3rds of the Patriot Act are not Constitutionally proscribed and if you want the remaining third de-activated, do something besides make absurd allegations. I suppose if a wheel falls off a jet in Singapore, it's Obama's fault. Ideologues are useless. You couldn't organize a picnic without a Seven-Eleven
@NookulerFreedom = each day the poor reporters hear "Goobs" droning out = "Thats something we will talk about in the Future"...... or the flip side "Thats yeaterdays news"....lol! The poor reporters have to make a Story out of these er...err.....er....ers and then (something is gonna happen in the future someday) His comments are like trying to listen to some message coming out of a tea keattles whistlin ~
@l8fbb23451 = my O - pinion? Obama PLANTED a Question in the NEW HAMPSHIRE TOWN HALL! ...= to back it up ??......Google "Kathleen Manning Hall".....& see.her and Baama in a MoneyHUG well before that town hall! And she took down her FaceBook and pica pages and then MSLSD edited the Halls OUT on the next days show to cover for O'BahBlah! = lol dumb DIM yer guy is powdered toast
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TingGuGe 2 years ago
Eameace must be Obamas economist. Clueless
bnelms22 2 years ago
Bottom line: if you're looking for less crime, the USA is not the place for you! And stats show a vast improvement here in the USA over the 1980s and 90s, especially in New York.
eameece 2 years ago
Assaults per capita: 7.5 per 1000 people (#6), Germany 1.4% (#26).
eameece 2 years ago
That's USA 7.5. In total crime it is much closer: USA ranks #8 with 80 per 1000; Germany #11 with 75. I noticed that Germany is #1 in drug offenses by a wide margin. what's going on there? IMO there shouldn't be drug offenses. I did think Germany was smarter than that; like Switzerland and Netherlands are.
eameece 2 years ago
I don't know why, but Alcohol and Drugs are very popular among young people. Not hard drugs though, mostly weed, coke and speed.
I've seen kids as young as 11 smoking weed while I was in school. The legal drinking age here is 14 (for beer and if accompanied by an adult), 16 for buying beer and 18 for everything else. I think we have the most alcoholics in Europe aside from Poland and Slovakia, if I recall. I was in Slovakia once, everyone there seemed to be drunk even my taxi driver
Kuner1 2 years ago
The site where I got the stats did explain, I saw; saying Germany is a distribution and financial center. So most of the crimes are about the big drug business, not users, it appears. I would call coke and speed "hard" drugs, but as for the statistic of Germany as #1, you report lots of Germans use drugs and alcohol, but are lots of users and/or dealers being arrested and jailed? In the USA we have lots of people in jail, a good proportion of them black drug users and dealers.
eameece 2 years ago
No, users aren't jailed here. Actually the consumption itself is not illegal, it's just illegal to buy, own or traffic the stuff (which theoretically makes it illegal to get to the point where you can consume it).
Kuner1 2 years ago
Kuner1: stats can be deceiving, but I looked up a couple of things. In education you appear to be right; Germany is mediocre, which is surprising given their economic leadership position. In crime the US has 16,000 murders (5th place) per capita while Germany has 914 (still high enough for 18th place), and most smaller European nations are among the best.
eameece 2 years ago
Is this Pelosis "pool boy"?
mrsmelzbad 2 years ago
Free marketeers frame the issue as the "size of government," but its really about allowing rich people to keep their money, and to make it while keeping everyone else poor and screwing the public and the planet. THEY want to be the government, instead of the people.
eameece 2 years ago
Actually rich people don't usually "keep" their money, because it would just lose value. Rich people either spend or invest their money. Both means the money goes somewhere and is put to work. Usually people will be a lot more careful and also effective about spending their own money than a government is. A government shoulp provide basic services & security, but every other penny they take from the population is missed by the people.
Kuner1 2 years ago
The trickle-down theory is false. even free-marketeers in the USA don't use it as much as their anti-government rhetoric. Govt investment is needed because business is only interested in short term profit. Long-term projects for the public good need govt help. People are not more careful; witness credit card debt, and the indulgence you mention above. We do have "pork," though, which is not spneing per se but allocation for political purposes; both parties do it.
eameece 2 years ago
Being only interested in short term profit is actually a sign of bad business. Good business is always interested in keeping their customers happy.
Yes, both political partys have a lot of pork spending, you have that everywhere were people get to spend money they didn't actually earn themselves. That alone is reason enough to restrict government spending to the bare minimum.
Kuner1 2 years ago
Yes Kuner, but that is what characterizes most business-- interest in short term gain. Also narrow interest; only their own and not the community's. All business requires investment in infrastructure and other capital; business alone can't do it; it requires the govt and always has. Restricting money to those who "earn" it is resentment; not a real basis for policy but instead a crippling ideology. The rich do not earn their money; they extort it, inherit it, steal it from society.
eameece 2 years ago
Wouldn't say so. I'm quite wealthy myself (not rich yet), and I have neither inherited it, nor have I extorted or stolen it from anyone. I worked my ass off for it, didn't have a day off for 7 years, but I developed a product no one else did and that people enjoy. Not only that, but I now employ a few people as well. I've given to society and society gave me in return. I never took from anyone.
Kuner1 2 years ago
If you are not rich I'm not talking about you. You aren't even an American, so circumstances are way different anyway. American cEOs get huge salaries and bonuses and make 100+ times more than the workers who actually create the wealth. In a free market, it is the greedy and aggressive who drive others out of business and dominate the market. You are not alone in your wealth; society's investments gave it to you. Individualism is just blind to the facts. Resentment is not economics.
eameece 2 years ago
Sure, some CEOs earn tons of money. But what's wrong with that? It's not you or me who is paying for it. If some corporation owner (or owners i.e. shareholders) agree to pay a guy 100 million a year since he earns the company 500 million, then that's their deal. Why would one want to interfere, that'd be the same as if one would limit the amount of money a plumber can charge. If someone charges too much, he'll be out of work soon enough.
Kuner1 2 years ago
@Kuner1 I don't think it's right. We all pay for the high salaries, because we pay the prices and invest in their businesses and financial instruments. The market doesn't work to limit how much people make, if some people dominate the market and the company others works for. CEOs get high salaries because they rule their company. Wealth = power, so when someone has too much money, democracy is in danger. We do in fact live in an oligarchy in the USA. Money rules.
eameece 2 years ago
Sure we pay their salaries by buying their products (or investing in their business otherwise). But at least we are free to not buy their product, if we don't approve of it. With the government, we don't have that choice, we don't give to them, they take from us.
Kuner1 2 years ago
When rich people spend money, it benefits them and not the economy. when poor people spend money, it goes to basic needs we all have and the economy prospers.
eameece 2 years ago
Actually the economy doesn't prosper as much by basic needs being covered because those rarely fuel innovation, creating jobs in the process. Still all money spent by the people is good.
If you buy a car for example, you try to buy the car that suits your needs best and at the best price possible. No government official could do that better than you. Same goes for all spending and investing. Ideally the US economy would have 300 mil people spending their money as effectively as they could.
Kuner1 2 years ago
We're not talking about who shops. Stimulus and welfare is good for the economy because it puts money in peoples pockets, and builds infrastructure at the same time. Mixed economies are best; not socialist, not individualist.
eameece 2 years ago
Actually the stimulus could have been a prime example of how to get an economy going: by giving out money. The same goes for nearly all incentives to spend money: Be it the cash for clunkers program or the tax deductable donations for haiti. When they really want to, politicians already know how to stimulate the economy: By cutting taxes. Most politicians nowadays are more interested in taking over the economy, because they think they know best and earn earn millions by redistributing money.
Kuner1 2 years ago
Cutting taxes can stimulate the economy, if its given to the people, not just the rich. The rich need to pay more; they cause the problems with their speculation, monopolies, pollution, low wages and bad working conditions. But cutting taxes alone causes huge deficits, and if you cut spending on the wrong things, you don't create conditions for growth. Mixed solutions are best; not fanatical right-wing, free-market libertarian economics. It's just a religion; it doesn't work in the real world.
eameece 2 years ago
@eameece
Agreed, you gotta spend to create conditions for growth, like infrastructure, education etc. Got no problem with that at all. You want the state to build roads, bridges, you want health inspections, fire fighters, police etc. You want these things to work and the ones responsible for them to answer to the people, not a corporation. Totally agree.
It's juast gone way beyond that, the governments are throwing money out the window and are hurting the economy and the people themselves
Kuner1 2 years ago
@Kuner1 Good, we agree. I also agree that governments throw away money; we need to hold them accountable. I am a financial moderate, but we disagree about what constitutes throwing money away.
eameece 2 years ago
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree there.
My personal opinion: Social engineering is what constitutes throwing money away
Kuner1 2 years ago
@Kuner1 My opinion: it is pork projects meant to boost political standing. Social engineering is a buzz word, but if society needs to use less oil, for example, then policies should encourage that.
We're talking about high salaries, the CEOs and other financial jugglers get 1000s more than workers who equally deserve it, just because they run the company. Wealthy people have too much power. Therefore, it's not wrong to tax them at a higher rate; higher than we do in the USA.
eameece 2 years ago
IMPEACH the bastard.
mia33134 2 years ago
1 year and the democrat government is already broken.
i hope this will be a lesson to you americans, don't fall for style over substance
Kuner1 2 years ago
@Kuner1 yeah; better elect someone who can't speak or spell instead.
eameece 2 years ago
@eameece
still better than one who wants to expand government.
besides, if you actually listen to bush during interviews, he doesn't spound dumb at all. he's no einstein, but he's a pragmatic thinker and he has a good sense of humor.
Kuner1 2 years ago
My point that it is not about style over substance, as you said. If the "democrat government" is broken, it is the republicans who broke it. It is not about expanding government; it is about making the right choices about what government does. You right-wingers make ALL the wrong choices. Unnecessary wars, torturing our enemies, causing depressions, keeping a few rich and the many poor, advancing the delusion that "the market will take care of it" when it only takes care of the greedy; etc.
eameece 2 years ago
@eameece
oh come on, waterboarding is not torture. read up on what the chinese, north koreans or russians do for a lot lesser reasons thans plotting terror attacks. you'd rather risk innocent lives instead?
the depression was caused by the subprime mortgage crisis, itself the result of leftist policys forcing the banks to hand out loans no one in their right mind would approve.
the market actually does take care of itself, if it's left alone for once
Kuner1 2 years ago
Us lefties are not going to let you right wingers get away with your nonsense. Everyone who is informed know that lefties did not force banks to give away loans; that was just another deregulation scheme in the Reagan mold, and many Democrats have aped his ways. Many people took those loans that had nothing to do with lefty politicians, and then the big banks created "instruments" out of bundles of them and sold them on margin. If you don't know about derivatives, you show how ignorant you are.
eameece 2 years ago
The market NEVER takes care of itself. Everyone is not eager to share wealth and power. Let the market alone, and a few greedy and powerful people dominate it and make all of society's rules. That is just another kind of "government" of the corporate kind. Of course waterboarding is torture, and it saves no lives; it just encourages more terrorism against us and makes us total hypocrites.
eameece 2 years ago
The USA has supported dictatorships for years. We made Haiti what it is today with 60 years of corrupt totalitarian rule. Yet we preach ideals of freedom. We need to live up to our ideals or stop preaching them. I guess that's no concern of yours, being a German. So why defend right wing wackos in the USA? Germans today are smarter than we are. Why are you supporting American wackos? Are you lonely? Too few of you over there, Kuner?
eameece 2 years ago
Because I know America and have plans to move there sometime soon, simply to get away from over-taxation and this broken beaurocratic nightmare here.
You think Germans are smarter? Guess you haven't been here, education is miserable (I know it isn't great in America, too, but at least you have some elite schools), crime is high (murder rate of Berlin has passed New York), taxes are rdiculous and all the money goes to corrupt politicians and people on welfare who refuse to work
Kuner1 2 years ago
I've been thinking about the opposite move. Sounds like you are on the make. For an aspiring entrepreneur who wants to get rich and has lots of money, America is a good place. For most others, it sucks. But your report is worth considering; maybe I'll do some checking. Of course, in America right-wing people say the exact same thing about where their money goes; it's just slogans. Germans are very literate and informed; why say education is miserable there? On college you are probably right.
eameece 2 years ago
It will be hard to find accurate info except from people who actually live here. I'll try to go through various points in my replys to you.
Germans are indeed very literate, but they aren't tought to think "outside the box". That is why I say the education system is poor. We have 3 basic school branches with no specialization for certain classes. Everyone must learn everything, which means that the learning tempo orientates itself by the slowest student in class.
Kuner1 2 years ago
Unfortunately students in the USA are no longer taught to think outside the box either. This is a concern, given the importance of American innovation for the USA and the world. Since the Reagan era there is a "back to basics" mania, and all students are tested to make sure they learn them. So teachers teach to the test. We also ended tracking (a "liberal" idea, to be sure), but as a sub teacher I notice there are some slower and faster classes, but mostly everyone's in one pot here too.
eameece 2 years ago
eeeeeeeh....eeeeh...eeeeh... its like watching 20 twenty cops interrogate a criminal....
fuckwhysoserious 2 years ago
This faggot makes me want to puke also!
clintstonedare1 2 years ago
one star for obama selling out his base
benympls 2 years ago
what do you mean?
Core1138 2 years ago
Obama is moving QUICKLY to the right everyday wether he's union bashing with his healthcare bill(taxing "cadilac" plans) or embracing tax breaks for the rich, he doesnt care about his progressive base. Now most progressives arent in favor of tax increases on business because that can/will effect jobs but thinking increasing capital gains tax to 20-25% is going to "kill" investing in utter nonsense or that increasing personal income taxes from 36% to 39-40% is not communist.
benympls 2 years ago
He's not moving right or left . He's communist, he is also a puppet who is saying what his puppet masters are telling him to say. There is no change from the Lil cowboy monkey George to the Kenyan monkey Barry. The new healthscare crisis is a clown show and the terror war is a farce. The war on drugs should be against the pharma co's. These idiots have destroyed what was once a great nation.Wake up its time for the Second American Revolution. Today.
Hang em all. Aim to live people.
clintstonedare1 2 years ago
communist? communist? im so fuckin sick & tired of people using big words they dont understand, read the communist manifesto and see what it really means! NOw i agree with some of what you said but you take things out of context. THIER IS A HEALTHCARE crisis & it was created by the insurance companies and pharma. The war on terror is a farce for profit,ill give you that one. he isnt kenyan & lots of his ideas in his speech last night were from the right.
benympls 2 years ago
Stop supporting parties that only want to lead this country. Its up to the people to lead this country not a selected few politicians to lead the people and this Great Country. Both the Democrats and Republicans are in denial of there roles for the people and this country.
Support The Whig Party, join, file for electoral. For a more centrist supportive role for the people and the Government under the Constitution.
God Bless the USA...
idrobinhood 2 years ago
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Taxpayers in California will pay $132.6 billion for total Iraq and Afghanistan war spending since 2001. For the same amount of money, the following could have been provided:
54,556,982 People with Health Care for One Year OR
1,872,544 Music and Arts Teachers for One Year OR
19,920,760 Scholarships for University Students for One Year OR
396,771 Affordable Housing Units OR
236,176,080 Homes with Renewable Electricity for One Year
Please let's bring our troops home!
1stopthewarplease 2 years ago
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"Give me the money that has been spent in war and I will clothe every man, woman, and child in an attire of which kings and queens will be proud. I will build a schoolhouse in every valley over the whole earth. I will crown every hillside with a place of worship consecrated to peace." ~Charles Sumner
1stopthewarplease 2 years ago
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I support President Obama, but I think he's been distracted lately. He promised he'll bring the troops home. This war is just a waste of life, time and money. 4374 US casualities in Iraq. 972 US casualities in Afghanistan. Total cost of both wars is $953,673,500,018 and this number is rapidly increasing. Is it worth it to spend $200 million a day when unemployment is high? More important things to fight for: hunger, poverty, diseases, education.
1stopthewarplease 2 years ago
The democratic party has been INFILTRATED by a WW2 NAZI named:
George Soros.
Wake the fuck up people!
earstohear . net/soros.html
NookulerFreedom 2 years ago
Those who gave warning from the onset are not busy casting nets, and they welcome the demise of our Democratic Party. This is particularly due to President Obama being a compulsive liar, and now no one can believe another Democrat will ever deliver a thing he or she promises. President Obama has filled the Democratic Party hot air balloon to the limit and it has burst. It falls like a failing parachute taking along nearly everyone of us within the Democratic Party.
geofiles 2 years ago
Unblock and read this comment people...
VVVVVVVVVVVV
NookulerFreedom 2 years ago
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Wake up people:
The first post on this thread received a +5 vote.
Here it is:
"Ruinous
Gibby, why is it Mr. Obama has to use his teleprompter even at an Elementary school? "
And the sleazy Whitehouse manipulated the vote down to -2.
+5 to -2?
Yeah right.
Just enough to look natural, right whitehouse filth?
The disgusting fraud called the Barack Obama Adaministration is EXPOSED.
NookulerFreedom 2 years ago 2
Bernanke doesn't get my vote! No transparency; support for bankers.
eameece 2 years ago 2
News just in: NASA confirms the 2000s were the hottest decade on record. You can have the conspiracy nuts; I'll take NASA. Meanwhile the free-market ideologues' great hero, Exxon-Mobil, caused another big oil spill. Europe requires double-hulled tankers; the USA does not. Why? Because of free-market ideology and the corporate money lobbying it enables.
eameece 2 years ago
no duh its rigged everyone is rigged for both sides.... bush had a crazy amount of pardens..u know why because u told people to do illeagle things to get his vote higher........then he just pardens him out of jail...
l8fbb23451 2 years ago
@FurryFenNick
The voting here is rigged by the Whitehouse and I caught them at it.
No go back to sleep FurryFenNick.
NookulerFreedom 2 years ago
@NookulerFreedom
please shut the fuck up.
FurryFenNick 2 years ago
Unemployment is probably around 20% considering once one's unemployment checks expire THEY ARE NO LONGER COUNTED.
WinterHaven 2 years ago 3
Bernanke is a consummate liar which is why everybody in congress loves him.
WinterHaven 2 years ago 2
I think it should be noted at this point that out of 100 million people on the internet I am the only one to take one the establishment.
Robert Gibbs: EXPOSED
watch?v=JNj9UJmAnC4
NookulerFreedom 2 years ago
Suck it Gibbs.
You fucking lying Mutherfucker.
Suck it.
watch?v=y8q_bEcjP-A
NookulerFreedom 2 years ago
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Shutup Gibbs.
You should be sucking dick for money.
watch?v=y8q_bEcjP-A
NookulerFreedom 2 years ago
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Most people want to see Ben Bernanke Gone and the FEDERAL RESERVE audited.
BARACK THE BANKSTER WHORE WANTS TO GIVE THEM MORE POWER.
How fucking stupid can you people be?
Obama is a fucking Traitor.
NookulerFreedom 2 years ago
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You turds are worthless sheep.
Yes obama should just sign JFK EO #11110
But he wont.
Want to know why?
Because he is just a salesman for the Bankster scum that he represents and you stupid clowns are the mindless crap that worship an illusion.
Get it yet?
NookulerFreedom 2 years ago
Bush = Tripled the Size of Govt, Got us into two wars, spent us into a recession, gave us Patriot Act, Guantanamo Bay, torture, supported Federal Reserve, supported bailouts and stimulus plans, supported bogus war on terror,drug war
Obama = OUTBUSHED BUSH on spending, supported bailouts and had own stimulus plan, continued the wars, continued patriot act, continued rendition, torture, guantanamo bay, supports federal reserve,continues bogus war on terror, drug war,rendition
WHAT CHANGED???????
RONPAUL2012PRESIDENT 2 years ago
Bogus war? Hm, alright then. I guess 9/11 never happened.
MFMAdiuvo 2 years ago
If we break it, we own it. Anything less is insanely irresponsible, regarding the middle east. The bailouts had bipartisan support and economists across the board believe it prevented global depression, not recession. The stimulus is supported across the board by mainstream economists. Secret prisons were shut down and rendition of CIA detainees has been going on for 40 years. Congress, especially the GOP opposed shutting down Guantanamo and tied Obama's hands.
synapsecracklepop 2 years ago
@synapsecracklepop The Mainstream economists did not see the crisis coming along with Ben Bernanke! The same people that are saying bailouts and stimulus helped the economy and that we are on the path to improvement are the same people who were DEAD WRONG and were saying the economy was doing great when in fact we were sliding downward and it was easily seen by many Economists from the AUSTRIAL SCHOOL OF ECONOMICS AND LUDWIG VON MISES INSTITUTE. Obama does not support audit of the fed. PUPPET
RONPAUL2012PRESIDENT 2 years ago
Plenty of mainstream economists saw it. The Austrian school of economics is a discredited bunch of libertarians, rejected by proper economists.
pgunn01 2 years ago
@pgunn01 No they didn't. Bernanke didnt see it, when Peter Schiff was on TV in 2005 and 2006 everyone in the media was making fun of him and saying everything was great. Austrian school of economics is not discredited whatsoever, they predicted the depression of 1929 and predicted the economic collapse we are witnessing right now. Please watch "Peter schiff was right"
RONPAUL2012PRESIDENT 2 years ago
Many mainstream economists saw it - I don't know if Bernanke did, but he is not exactly an academic economist (I'm don't much like him, fwiw).
The Austrian school isn't a true academic school - it's a bunch of politicos who want to justify libertarianism, not people who study markets. They have no credibility in academia, and so they're usually ignored except by Libertarians and some conservatives.
pgunn01 2 years ago
@pgunn01 Again incorrect. Mainstream economists did not see this coming whatsoever they lied and said everything was great. Austrian school of economics is not a bunch of politicos it is filled with economists who write many books
(ludwig von mises, murray rothbard, hayek was even a noble prize winner) The reason they have not been mentioned in the mainstream is because they tell the truth, and they have been ignored by the NEOconservatives on fox news because they follow keynesian economics.
RONPAUL2012PRESIDENT 2 years ago
Everyone uses Keynesian economics because it's the dominant economic theory. If you walk onto any university campus pretty much anywhere in the world, you'll have a very tough time finding an Austrian-school economist in their Economics department. Libertarian think tanks are pretty much the only place you can easily spot them.
Libertarian propogandists love to pretend that Austrian economists are the only people who saw this. They're simply wrong. Nobody debunks them because they're trolls.
pgunn01 2 years ago
Peter Schiff for Senator in 2010. If he's not able to get a Republican nomination he should go run as a independent or a Modern Whig Party candidate.
idrobinhood 2 years ago
@synapsecracklepop secret prisons have NOT BEEN SHUT DOWN THATS A COMPLETE LIE, THERE ARE MANY OF THEM STILL IN POLAND, ROMANIA AND UKRAINE
RONPAUL2012PRESIDENT 2 years ago
You want Obama to discontinue the Federal Reserve, reverse 30 years of Drug Policy, and foreign policy in the twinkling of an eye.... and because he can't or won't, you compare him to Bush? 2/3rds of the Patriot Act are not Constitutionally proscribed and if you want the remaining third de-activated, do something besides make absurd allegations. I suppose if a wheel falls off a jet in Singapore, it's Obama's fault. Ideologues are useless. You couldn't organize a picnic without a Seven-Eleven
synapsecracklepop 2 years ago
Here, here! Well said!
WinterHaven 2 years ago
ahahahahahhahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
NookulerFreedom 2 years ago
You want to here the punchline?
I wasn't tracking anything,.
I just wanted the Whitehouse to expose yourself and fall on your face.
How funny is that?
NookulerFreedom 2 years ago
Have fun stumbling around in the darkness....
NookulerFreedom 2 years ago
hmph.
Bitches.
:P
NookulerFreedom 2 years ago
I own you fucking puppets.
NookulerFreedom 2 years ago
No voting at all for 46 minutes.
Thanks for proving that the voting here is coming from the Whitehouse.
What a joke.
Thanks again....
ahahahahahahahahaaaa
NookulerFreedom 2 years ago
Rahm Emanuel and Nancy Pelosi:
EXPOSED!!!
watch?v=lwi_yNlQmsg
NookulerFreedom 2 years ago
You fucking pussy.
NookulerFreedom 2 years ago
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Yeah I just told you what I'm really doing right in your face.
.
What are you going to do about it Odumbo?
You fucking Bankster dipshit?
NookulerFreedom 2 years ago
Robert Gibbs Exposes himself!!!
watch?v=xKC7jV4T-to
NookulerFreedom 2 years ago
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memama2:
Im just tracking Obamas 11 dollar an hour shills rotation patterns.
That's all.
Take it easy buddy.
NookulerFreedom 2 years ago
What a joke.
Bye.
NookulerFreedom 2 years ago
Your not voting fast enough OBOTS.
Obama is a Bankster whore and George Soros' little bitch.
Vote fast trash, you earn 11 bucks an hour for a reason....
NookulerFreedom 2 years ago
@NookulerFreedom = each day the poor reporters hear "Goobs" droning out = "Thats something we will talk about in the Future"...... or the flip side "Thats yeaterdays news"....lol! The poor reporters have to make a Story out of these er...err.....er....ers and then (something is gonna happen in the future someday) His comments are like trying to listen to some message coming out of a tea keattles whistlin ~
memama2 2 years ago
Vote down this comment too OBOTS.
OBAMA is George Soros' little bitch.
Reality sucks, huh OBOTS?
NookulerFreedom 2 years ago
alright all yalll are faggets and dont know why u do or why u dont like obama...if u have an opinion have somthing to back it up not what the tv said
l8fbb23451 2 years ago
@l8fbb23451 = my O - pinion? Obama PLANTED a Question in the NEW HAMPSHIRE TOWN HALL! ...= to back it up ??......Google "Kathleen Manning Hall".....& see.her and Baama in a MoneyHUG well before that town hall! And she took down her FaceBook and pica pages and then MSLSD edited the Halls OUT on the next days show to cover for O'BahBlah! = lol dumb DIM yer guy is powdered toast
memama2 2 years ago
Vote this comment down OBOTS.
Obama is a Bankster whore.
NookulerFreedom 2 years ago
Oh yeah Obots, vote this one down too.
"Obama Sucks the dick of Goldman Sachs"
watch?v=VSwWy4E6I04
Vote down reality again OBOTS, the world is laughing at you.
watch?v=VSwWy4E6I04
NookulerFreedom 2 years ago
You guys are truly pathetic.
Now vote this comment down.
NookulerFreedom 2 years ago
Vote this down again OBOTS.
God forbid the world see the reality of your false prophet.
watch?v=MouUJNG8f2k
NookulerFreedom 2 years ago
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"The men behind Barack Obama"
watch?v=MouUJNG8f2k
NookulerFreedom 2 years ago
Vote people down faster OBOT whores.
You are great at suppressing reality...
VOTE THEM DOWN FASTER!
FASTER!
NookulerFreedom 2 years ago
HI!
My name is Ellie Light!
Ever heard of me?
I'm the person who pretends I live in multiple states and posts the same pro Obama article in every state I can.
Never heard of me?
I am a false construct of a fraudulent administration.
I am Ellie Light....
Yeah.
NookulerFreedom 2 years ago
I love watching the cultist Obama illusion fall apart.
NookulerFreedom 2 years ago
Its already over OBOTS.
"The men behind Barack Obama"
watch?v=MouUJNG8f2k
NookulerFreedom 2 years ago
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I see Obamas little cultists who vote everything down have shown up.
It was just a matter of time...
NookulerFreedom 2 years ago
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Robert Gibbs.....
EXPOSED!!!!
watch?v=ds1xevsg9MI
NookulerFreedom 2 years ago
Gibby, why is it Mr. Obama has to use his teleprompter even at an Elementary school?
Ruinous 2 years ago