European Union's commission on Russia-Georgia war and recent WiliLeaks cables stated that it was Georgia that was agressor in that war against disputed region of S.Ossetia which was under EU (OSCE) peacekeeping mandate hold by Russians. Russian military responce was legal and necessary.
Russia has a mandate. Russia could have prevented that war, by disarming those criminals payed by Kokhoti who himself is a fat criminal, actually carying a shit about the Ossetians and Georgians in South-Ossetia. Instead of assisting them, ambushing our boys at the border, they could have prevented skirmishes. Do you know how many people died because of sniping, mortaring and ambushes, sinces 2004 ? Some 200 on Russo-Ossetian and more than 150 on Georgian side. What for ?
But he started a war, by barraging Tskhinvali, attacking the Ossetian positions, taking Ossetian villages. During that all, both sides committed unhuman war crimes. When the Russian eagle got active, it from the sky, raised all of Saakashvili's plans finally to the ground.
The ones who were actually betrayed, were the members of the Georgian Armed Forces, who were promissed to get assistment by US Forces in some 2 - 3 days, what of course, didn't happen.
More than 5.000 of 24.000 Georgian Infantrymen have deserted and are jailed since august.7 2008, because they refused the order to attack Tskhinvali, as the Ossetians count as our brothers and there are only a few dozen who really want to see bloodshed. The same goes for Russia, Ossetia, Abkhazia and the US. Some 12.-15.000 men were gathered in chaotical cicumstances. In such a situation it was impossible to start a war.
Anyway, barraging towns is not allowed according to international war agreement. Even if there are military installations and bunkers, especially ammo stores. But what happenes ? The US bombared a overpopulated Baghdad, the Israelis bombard Palestine constantly every month, the Sri Lankians kill thousands of innocent people, Urban fights in populated areas of entire Mexico. Devastation of Chechens etc.
Or the Isralis, who killed some 1.800 civilians in Palestine with massive artillery and airstrikes within of several days. The Georgians practically hit a ghost town, which was calculated at the night of action, to have been full with Russian soldiers and armed Ossetian Militants, instead of a few hundred Ossetian and Georgian civilians which were left.
Thousands of things happened before and during the war. Thousands of things and decicisions led to the georgian artillery barrage against a city, which was not completly evacuated. People are just blaiming everyone without knowledge of background etc. Did you hear about the German attack in Kundush, Afghanistan, here almost 200 people died ?
No no no no no. Putin is not better, my friend. Whenever Georgian soldiers leave a bit of Georgian ground. Either the Ossetians or the Russians get the order to push their checkpoints a bit further to the south. Now, that is fact and I really dislike those kind of actions. If Putin wanted, nobody would have been harmed. The Russians just could have hammered the Ossetians and let them stop skirmishing around against Georgian convoys and villages. But they didn't.
It sounded good. It gave hope. A man, studied all kind of things in the US, even was chief procecutor of a well known US firm, returned to Georgia, with full support of Europe and the United States. That made everyone so blind, that a maniac came to power and really really honsetly, Putin gave us the rest, because he used Saakashvili's emotions to trap him, if it was not planned anyway.
The entire country went corrupt. Why ? Because of all the wars and the breakdown of the Sovjet union. Georgia rapidly turned into a third world nation. Note, Georgia before the breakdown, was the second richest Nation in the UdSSR. People hungered, lost blood, lost patience. Gamsakhurdia gave them the rest. When Shevardnadze came to power, noone listened anymore. Corruption spread. The rose revolution followed. Saakasvhili's turn in 2003. What the "White Fox" ended in peace, the maniac craped.
Putin immidiatly arranged with the Ossetians and Abkhazians, to let some 90.000 refugees return. If the seperatists didn't accept, they would have been bitchslapped. So far so good. Now Shevardzandze was a man who prevented WW3 with Gorbatschew. Both, let the wall fell. Shevardnazde worked his ass of for a sovjet retreat from Afghanistan to prevent further bloodshed. Now he was a genius in politics somewhere else. But at home, he couldn't control any criminal. Noone listened
Look. A good relaton with Russia would have been perfect. Now look at what happend in the past, when Shevardnadze was president. In his late period of rule, he improved relations with the EU, then the US offered to train and equip our Armed Forces. Shevardnadze had excellent relations with Putin. He told him that, Putin accepted, under the condition, that there wont't be US bases. Shevardnadze accepted under the condition, that 70.000 refugees shoudl return.
Actually I have the theory that the entire war was planned by Saakashvili and Putin to both, improve their popularity. I mean, look at the facts. The Georgians were not really prepared. They were prepared for such combat, but no fucking asshole said anything about a war for august 2008. Commanders were replaced by majors and Saakashvilis acquaintances. When the alarms rang, the Soldiers ran out, grabed what they could and got the order to streighty run into South-Ossetia.
No, but there was a georgian engineer who invented one of Russia's most succesful satelites. You maybe heared from TAM ( Tbilisi Aerospace Manufacturing or Tbilisi Aircraft Manufacturing ) ? These plants built hundreds of Russian shuttle and satelite parts, some 250 SU-25s and some other few thousand aircrafts and Missiles.
Well, the Ka-50, the Berkut and the T-95 / BMPT are some good reliable projects. I in fact respect that mighty developement of the Russian arms industry, although it still lacks on quantity of high-tech equipement. The Georgians faced a Russian army of the category: "high russian standarts and professionalism". You say, we have no pride of fighters. I say, we were betrayed by our gov. Up to 200 though boys were sacrificed and they offered their lifes for Georgia's victory.
The Armenians betrayed us in 1918 but were completly fucked after that cowardly attack against a georgian garrison. If the brits weren't there to stop and skirmish against us, we definitly would have put Yerevan to ashes.
Nazi Germany fought against the sovjet Union. The 720.000 Georgians fought mainly for the survival of Georgia, not only UdSSR. The egyptians visited Georgia some hundred or up to 1.000 years, before the Greeks attacked Georgia ( golden fleeze legend ). They tried to battle us, but were beaten because they also had to fight women in armour ( later called Amazons by greeks ) Armenians early attacked us, when Rome invaded Colchis and weakened the Georgian.
What the heck are you talking about ? Georgia asked Russia for help in the 18th century. Russia guaranteed help ans assistment. But when the Ottomans were beaten back, the Russians conquered norhtern parts of Georgia. Then they granted the Ottomans to take southern, large black sea cost parts of Georgia. Almost a third. The Azeris could also get a bit. Then thanks to your second betrayal in 1921, we lost the Lori disctrict to Armenia, although they were beaten, before georgian defeat
egyptians, Persians, Babylonians, Hethites, Greeks, Romans, Selucids, Armenians, Kypchaks, Mongolians, Ottomans, Alans, Byzantinians, Gots, Germans, Russians and some dozen different muslim coalitions. You only had to face the brits and the french, becaus you attacked us in 1921. .... -.-
That is easy to explain. We allways were under constand siege from all sides. Look at our positions, even on today's map. Azeris, there, Turks there, Iranians there. A few hundred years earlier, there were some dozens of different tribes and muslim Coalitions, allways trying to annex us and if they couldn't break our spirits, they almost completly whiped us out. The Georgians were just able to fight enough to maintain their lifes and culture.
What is THE REALITY ? The reality is, that every Ottoman and Persian ruler had to defeat a georgian army, to gain popularity and the full title of King of Kings of the Mid Eastern Empire. The reality is, that the very major part of all the almost 360 wars, were won by Georgians. If the Ottomans or Persians ever were succesufll because they outnumbered us 7-2, than we crushed them years later after regaining might and rised with uprisings. If you want to know anything, read.
Do you ever read history books ? You are just argumenting like following :"Hooo, the Persians destroyed your capital, that was the only war you georgians fought and you lost it".Great, now I can also claim: "Hooo, the Mongolians destroyed and fucked you for three centuries and this was the only war you gought and you lost decicively" What kind of childish crap is that !?
Russia lost almost 6.000 men, the Ottomans and Armenians entire armies, while Georgia was defeated by betrayal and suffered only some 4.500 casulties in total. Who has beeing fucked ? I'll tell you. One Russian Army unit, two Ottoman army corps, the entire Armenian Army and finally the small 25.000 men strong Georgian army, loosing only some 4.500 men against 5 armies from 5 different directions.
You mean, when 20.000 Russian Infantrymen armed with muskets were 1 month long not able to take the Mtskheta garrison with a total of 500 georgian Khevsur warriors in chains, armed with sabers and muskets. Do you mean the betrayal of 1921 ? Wher we had to face the Ottomans, the Russians and the Armenians, almost beating them all ? Pathetic !
During Kievean Rus Era, the Georgian Kingdom and Georgian cultuire controlled and influenced parts of northern Russia, up to Sibiia. My mom lives in Germany and Stalin was not a Black guy lol ^^ btw. I bet you don't even know the meaning of Nigga
You are outside of reality. The reality is cold, the reality is a peanut of salery, the reality is pain, the reality is hunger, the reality is no fun except work. That is Russia. That is Georgia. With the only difference, that all Georgians aid eachother. Russians carry a shit about their neighbours. Only drinking, playing Backgammon, beating eachother, insulting eachother, insulting ethnic Caucasian groups, while the women get fucked by Caucasians.
learn english, slut. I didn't even tell you anything, but you obviously allready know a bit. Yeah, yeah, visit Russia. You will experience what it is to be part of a 3rd world Nation. Russian and Georgian doctors have a pityfull sallery of 500 - 1200 USD. But I guess you know that, like you know that Bagration is one of a """"few"""" important ethnic Georgians in Russia history. There is no comparison of Georgians with Russians. That is impossible. We are united, you are drunk..
No idea of history, no idea of culture, no idea of world, no idea of politics, a giant cum filled mouth, splatting all around the net. No, splat someone else in his face. I had enough of your uneducation. You showed me enough, prowving that people like you aren't worth a dumbfuck. Thanks for wasting my time. I'll pray for you.
Because I answered in english you stupid fuck ? English is world language and not Russian. I have no doubts that you are some idiot Nazi living somewhere in Canada and the US. Didn't they teach you there anything !?
You don't know a shit about us. Nothing. We allways had to fight against 1 to 4 enemies at one, who sometimes outnumbered us 5 - 1 in quantity, if not more. We Georgians are figthers, like we were centuries ago. We maintained our culture for several thousands of years and defended it with uncomparisal sacrifise and bloodshed. So many had the Ottomans to suffer, invading us, so many had all muslims who tried to break our spirits and so many will anyone who tries to steal anything from us
Every single day of the 16,000 years old united Georgia's history, was written in blood. Invasions, wars, wars, wars, wars. No other country can count as many wars as Georgia had to go through. Empires crushed. Nations rised and crushed. We Georgians allways defended our ground to the last man and if we were not succesfull, we intigrated ourselfes in the culture of the invaders, never fogetting who we are never loosing culture. When the time was right, we made uprisings and beated the enemy.
What the fucking hell, do YOU know about us, or even about the entre Caucasus, the Tatra, Eastern Russia, Sibiria. The yellow sea !? What the fucking shit do you TV whore know about all that. Did you ever studied Russian history !? Do you know how many times, any single Russian Zardom, except Peter's, was assfucked by Ottomans and other muslims, or mongolians ???? Mongolians were selling and fucking Russian women and girls. Dozens for each mongolian soldier.
You claim that Georgia is a bitch, because it allways held contact to enemies and friends, to prevent tota destruction. You know a fucking pice of shit. The most famous Persian and Ottoman leaders and commanders, were Georgian. A lot of famous Russian leaders and Commanders were Georgian. What did I say, a lot ? No, not a lot, most precice, almost half of them. Scientists, phycicians, painters, musicians, directors. All the statues and monuments made by Georgian hands in St. Petersburg.
This ís what your beloved Propaganda war machinery does to the little part of duraks under us. Totally assfucking and doubleraping their brains. You are in the category: "I let my brain beeing penetrated and cum filled from all sides and I accept it". Bad Georgia, Bad USA, Bad World. Good Putin, Good drunk former KGB in Minister positions, Good politics. ADVANCED RUSSIA, POOR UNCULTURED BARBARIAN WORLD. You need to visit Russia. Then you will undestand that pornos alone wont save you.
Russian history compared with Georgia's, is the same apeshit, like your God leaders are treating your homecountry. You so beloved Kremlin monopole only exists because we Georgians took a heart and went with you through all kind of wars, not to talk about all the miseries we had to go through against Ottomans, Persians, Kypchaks and Azeris, just to defend ourselfs and prevent them to pass Georgia and enter Kevlan Rus, which would have been turned into a muslim nation.
You reached a point, were idiocy can't be healed anymore. You don't even know what Churka means you fucking little bitch. Stop smashing the entire Russian population into pig shit you little uneducated TV whore. What you need, is a crash course in life. Go join your new country's army. They will fucking teach you how to learn culture and history you assfucked hairy immigrant monkey. I can ruin your pityfull life in 8 different languages suka. Guys like you are all same. Bydlos nothing else
If you think that internet, video games and pronos are the way of life, than many people will tell and teach you the opposite. Maybe you have luck and you'll find someone, or someone finds you and washes out all the crap from your damaged brain.
People like you have nothing done to the world, than sitting in front of their Win98s and spreading their mental illness to much dumber people. Again, hump up, search a job or something. Are you religious. I guess not. Read a book, go out, search friends. Forget Russia, forget Georgia, do something for your wasted life.
Name me any Georgians who says anything wrong about Russian people. Name me one you know or you read from, heard from, whatever. Russians and Georgians had best relations since the Russia you know, started to exist a few hundred years ago as a baby culture. What the bloody hell are you able to tell anyone. You russophile duraks are the junks, the dark side of Russias foreign educaton, which' brains are completly infiltrated by Mafias, controlling the Russian Federation.
I currently have no fucking brain cell to sacrifice on simple Russian language, which phrases up to 50% consist of insults and swearwords. What do you little worm know about life you fucking idiot ?! I was in the army, I was in Russia, Moscow, I know more Russians than you will talk to in your entire useless existance. I know 7 different languages excluding Georgian, I studied, I worked, I fought, I read, I wrote. What the heck did you do for yourself, not to talk about anything for anyone else
I am making something of my life. Seeing everything, thinking about everything. Guys like you are ending up in dreamlands for state TV zombies. Stay on the planet surface you dreamers and build up a life.
You are a Nazi, you spread hatred against Georgians.
WHo do you know you piece of shit !? You don't even know your own alphabet. Who do you want to know about ? One if not the oldest human cultures on this planet !? What the fuck is this dumbfucking around, all about !? Showing your level of intilligence. Do you have a rough imagination about Caucasus and Russia ? DId you ever visit Georgia ? Why the fuck do you believe you have the right to claim such incredible bullshit !?
You'r most inrpirating dream is to be a Russian you fucking fool. I alone would outmatch you in russian language. I hope, life in Canada or US will fresh up your brain you silly monkey.
The sad TRUTH is, that you guys somewhere around the world with immense knowledge about georgian culture, history and people, allways know more than any georgian and russian historican themselves. Try to built up a live and stop defending fucking politicians who are living in Dachas greater than palaces and are having fun with prostitutes, drugs and money, which belongs to the population. How can a fucking president be a fucking multi-billionary using his country as monopoile for himself
hat happened in 2008 ? Georgia responded against Ossetian provocations and got itself trapped because nobody wanted to assist us when Russia responded. What would have brought us anything positive if the war continued. Only blood shed and thousands of dead, again. Russia would have got my ass, if the Georgian army didn't retreated and leave all their equipement to win time for diplomatical solutions.
When did Russia fuck us !? You mean the 18th century when you stabbed a knife in our back, after we almost had no military ressources anymore to fight against the muslums ?? Is that your way of relations ? Betrayal !? When did you fuck us ?? In 1921 ?? We fucked 4 different armies from 4 different directions youasshole, Just because of the betrayal of Russia and our government, the 51st Russian army entered Tblisi without fighting.
I went to Germany because of your provoked war in 1990 you fucking son of a bitch. At that time, medical treatement was not guaranteed because of the chaos there and my brother who was born right in the middle of war, would have died if we didn't fly to germany. You piece of shit. Choose your words. I don't fucking give a crap about your opinion and you for sure do not live in Russia, because Russians are not that mentaly damaged. Fucking idiot.
You fucking Russophile and US-Russian/Canada-Russian mental poor people know more about the "TRUTH" than any Russian in Moskow. Yea, just get the fuck out of my attention !
Oh, c'mon stop this shit you immigrant, find a job and take care about your future. 90% óf you idiots will die in foreign countries. Who the fuck wants to be with Russia .... LoL ? Some fat criminals trying to build up a little monopole on souvereign land, while beeing assstuffed by Oncle Putin, with drugs, money and weapons. You are debile. You see this all like whooo, Georgia started and Russia responded, what btw is a total elemental fail of logic.
Hussein has been killed through hanging on the gallows - for a similar crime... Saakashvili still in power... Why? The answer: because so wants the USA... Double standards + influence on world mass-media... So the USA gains money, and we Georgians, Russian, Ossetins, Chechens we pay in blood for their fat bums...
There where the USA there war... Why not who does not abuse the USA...? And after all they have really made and make a large quantity of war crimes... Also there are concrete proofs and even video... What are all afraid of them? Or pay well?
And now the most interesting...: who financed billions dollars of these pedophiles? I at all will not be surprised if it is the USA through intermediaries... And even now some terrorists (their fault is proved) hide in some European countries, and the authorities of these countries do not hasten to promote... It is a policy on blood.... But Russia here in what is guilty?
- Georgia has begun war with bombardment of civilians by installations GRAD
- Georgia has broken many the international conventions
And many other things...
It is the international commission (its structure included even the aggressive countries to us, but the facts are so obvious that to another they could not treat event). You call their opinion into question?
About the Chechen Republic... It is really sick theme for Russia...
In the Chechen Republic there were present gangsters... Drug traffic, the weapon, people... Abduction, custom-made murders... The Whip-round from business... Numerous терракты... The Same Beslan (school capture)... They are pedophiles, murderers... It not Chechentsi... But at these pedophiles it is a lot of money... And many Chechentsi have not resisted such big money...
Russia is more guitly for provoking the war than georgia for starting the war. Read the UN result. Russia is fucked. Putin was damn angry about the final commissional result
The GAF was acutally fighting against two VDV batallions in Tskhinvali, there were no ciivilians and no peacekeepers, there was only intense fighting and you cowards were hiding and shooting our tanks with RPG and MiGs
Would send 1000 Georgian to South Ossetia on foot with automatic machines... (It is better to sit in the tank... And to shoot on the car with women and children... It is cheerful and безопастно... So you also have made... A shame to you...)
60 of 100% goes on Russias cap. I allready read and Georgia is guilty for starting the war, damaging Tskhinvalii and that a dozen of civilians PROBABLY have died during the georgian assault. Russia is even guilty for responding, for responding inadequate and overaxxegerated, for invading georgian territory in and outside Sout-Ossetia, for aiding Ossetians in ambushes, for provoking, for preparing, for commiting genocide ..... etc. etc. etc, Remember who had to elave Tskhinvali !!!!
To all naive, believing in mass-media for example as CNN I advise to esteem the report of the international commission! There one facts!
Russia there too have a little accused...
On each 1000 Georgian military men we should direct no more than 1000 Russian military men... Bosh... (If on a city one loony goes and shoots on all... To neutralise it one policeman should...?)
Russians are good pepople! They suffered much more then any country own KREML crimes. We lost only 1 milion after Stalin terror but RU lost 30milons citizens! Hitler only help to erase more. KREML problem is that as winners knowone jujged own criminals from similar to SS camps - Syberia guags (work camps). Not jujged total cirminals created KREML elite totaly changing vision of true, history facts and way of thinking about democracy. PUTIN is old KGB crime school succesor -so all have trouble
When I have been in the Kosowo I have seen the Russian soldiers, I have had an ugly impression, they are armed badly, but the thing that has impressed more me has been to see their checkpoints they put two burnt rubbers, contrarily Italians more or less the English and the Americans acted to the same way with more professionalisms.
russians are afraid of americans because we have locater missiles if they sent nukes to us we can destory them in mid flight if we sent nukes to them they dotn have locater missiles there fucked if they try to bomb amercica
If not Georgian own one side sease fire it would be longest and bloody war for RU with houndred thousand dead (Aphganistan II).
Georgians are too brave nation not to fight to the end. PUTIN would be politicly fast finished. The only option was pacify most off civil population of Georgians like in Chechnia and estimate next extrmintion camp. World would not accept Chechnia II and new RU Hitler due to no excuse in UN mass killing independent country (not inside RU territory to not inetrfere).
1. its was an ossetin land. Georgians would be in Afganista2. LOL.
2. georgian are brave? like a stalin who killed poles in Katyn? LOL.
3. Im caucasian and i never heard there about camps in chechnya. LOL.
4. Killing Ossetian people by georgians its ok for you? maybe. But not for us. Other Caucas countries, al caucasus against saakashvili. Also chechnya, armenia and azerbadzhan. Also most part of georgians.
1.Osethains arrived here. 2. Georgians prooved theur bravery in many wars so forget lowering their will to fight trying to make biger RU shit "win". RU lost due to most WEST investors fly away after this shit war prooving only RU as barbarian country able easy to break any international laws. Putin story of mass killing (2000 geoncides) Osethians is 100% prooved as lie to make Caucas countries angry and against Georgians to excuse own RU war crimes. RU lost only west trust and money in crissis.
1. Ossetians with their lands joined Russia 150 years befor georgians. South ossetia was cutted and gived to georgia by georgian stalin.
2. I have many relatives in caucasus and ALL of them hates saakashvili. and i dont know what a fuck you teaching me about situation in caicas, its a same if i would start teach you about relations between pole towns.
LOL.
dont be so stupid, you dont know NOTHING.
Thanks that you SOLD a slav kosovo lands. Trailors...
Your only 150years too short Osthians history "facts" is the same true like others Ru bull shits. First Osethians arrvived here as Gerogians servants. This land was never "Osethians" and is still by international law only Georgian. It's shame I need to teach You your land undeniable facts. Kosovo case was openly named as mistake and oficcialy announced as exeption wich should never be made anymore! So RU openly repeat twice "Kosovo" crime!. Soon Macedonia will lose Neardniepr part . RU shit !
Georgians proved their bravery? They were running like rabbits. And how are RU barbarian if Georgians committed genocide? And stop hating Russia too much, are you even aware of how many Russians did poles kill? Your country is a disgrace to all Slavic nations.
2008- learn your true history and RU scale of crimes in my country too. Stalin biggest ever murderer of Slavic nations with 30mln dead is Your biggest disgrace for us. Talking about Georgians defending 100%own land like cowards is so stiupid porpaganda that I will not comment it. They had good trained and similary equiped army so forget KREML propaganda shit. PUTIN lied about genocides and forgot to tell about Georgian 1 side sease fire and ordered retreat shown as running and RU in fight win.
Stalin was Georgian, so don't give me that crap about murderous Russians. Stalin killed more Ukrainians and Russians than poles so shut up about the evil Russians. I know that after 3 divisions of Poland and polish massacre in 40's you're pissed but its history get over with it.
You presented here typical KEMLIN made thinking way. Stalin was 100% Ru govermant leader. Lenin was 100% RU leader. Dierzinskij NKWD murderer was 100% RU too Place of their barth (Georgia, Germany Poland) - have here nothing! All RU scumbags respomsibile for death of milions Slavs! Georgian true version history You need correct with Georgians I have good contacts. Your PK openly military supported Osethians militia in fights so they automaticly lost UN mandate and became agressors here.Educate
Stalin was in parades in gori to protest the russian language taught in schools. Oh trust me he was antirussian, but pro-soviet. Poles still commited many atrocities against russians. But its history right? Look my grandma was polish and we all slavs and everything. But russians took their revenge, and soviets are not russians you have to know that.
He was only born in Georgia but was 100% Ru leader living in KREML. Had he Gorgians passoport and was Georgia lider living in capitol of his country or RU 1 most important citizen? I don't know Your shool logic thinking but I can olny smile reading such comments. This means that Ru was for all Stalin time - Georgia territory. RUSbp - stop drink....
So tell your Kreml propganda tellers that "stiupid" Shaka saved by his order to stop fight and retreat thousands of own and RU soldiers lifes. Thanks Shaka becouse RU generals and PUTIN learn nothing about fights in mountains in Aphganistan and possible numbers of caosulties in many years bloody war with bigger and better equiped nations defending own land. I tell You once more . Georgian bravery was prooved many times in history so don't repeat idiot propganda to cover risk PUTIN made here.
Georgians in 1812 ran like rabbits to ask tsar aleksander to count them in for russian empire. In 1921 they wanted to secede, but Georgian stalin wanted them to be in USSR. In 2008 they took tremendous casualties while fighting 15 russia peacekeepers=major war crime is to fight with peace keeper. Unlike americans we don't bpmb mass civilian targets, thats why we lost afghan, besides we cleared everyhting for americans so they have no one to fight with.
yeah - in 1812 RU used Persian war fact to put hands on part of Turkey too. In 1807 RU divided Poland puting hands on 82% of our teritory (complitely destroying our independence) - we are very greathefull for this "help" and your "cover" too. We should be greathfull for Lenin 100.000 army hords attaking in 1920 my country and last 40year after 1945 of RU slaving us comunist regime. I think YOu are little mad like your Kremlin firnds telling me RU history crimes as noble facts. It's close shame
After 1991 our dum assed prime minister destroyed our glorious and powerful country. They just told you to live like everyone else, but you wanted democracy here we go you have it now enjoy it. Don't be afraid, russia will not invade poland unless nato does something stupid. I am tired everyone scapegoats russia.
Just because we were the biggest and we have most nuclear weapons in the world. So what?
PolishFactor, instead of running your mouth about 'history of Russian aggression' - why don't you recall your very recent invasion of Iraq? What exactly business Poland has in Iraq?
Is that what you call 'independence' and democracy?
zrvpvo - better check USA and Europe suecide attacks facts then tell us what to do with Alakida problems we was earlier involved. If few idots dream all world will change freedom on Talib vershion religous crime coutry rules reality waitnig and only watching crimes You are little insane. So live our deomcracy and go to Talib reality to understand problem. You should always remmember scale of Husein crimes on Kurds and Kuwait invasion. Balkans NATO ending war action saving houndred thousands too
Taliban was created by Pakistan with support of US. Saddam was a big friend of US when he gassed Iranians with gas made with support of US company in 80's. Why don't you learn history instead of running your mouth on subject you don't have clue. And learn English before you wanted to write here.
US involvement in Iraq killed by far more people in 5 years then in whole time Saddam ruled Iraq. There are many places in the world where people die. Why don't you Poles save Sudanians or Somalis?
'Whole world is dealing with China and RU ' US fights in Iraq with money BORROWED from China. You need to get in touch with reality - Bush/Cheney era is over. Obama seeking friendly relation with Russia so STFU you paranoid polak.
Your "involvement" theory is very unclear definition. If trhowing bomb into crowded place full of children to kill one soldier working as policeman is for You this policeman crime (who lost their life to preserve these innocent people too) - You have a little problem with logic thinking. PL soldires served in may African coutries too (especially clearing land mines as ONZ soldiers). Blame them too. Their are involed in land mines massacres too. KGB in KREML soon will use Obama naive firendship.
You've got your head shovewed so far up your ass that you see a whole different world from there. Where do you get all the nonsense you write in broken english you moron?
If You have a problem with understanding my broken English I can write it in Polish or Russian - closer EAST Europe problems. I try to look little far at future. Kreml always understand only hard force and simply way of talking. Democracy and freedom west rules are for old KGB leadres like PUTIN only weakness easy too use. Rirst act then talk rule is unchangable due to possibility to be 1 step forwared any civilised country like USA. So soon You will see new Georgia wars
It's not my problem understanding your poor English - it's rather your ignorant view of the world.
You can consider Obama 'naive' but majority of Americans country of 300 million chose him as a president. I bet he's a 'bit' a more educated then average polish nobody. At least he knew the difference between Shia an Sunni before 2003 which was too complicated for Bush - the dumbest president in US history.
Sorry man but in % Polish and RU people are more educated and read more books and know more about world then simply USA citizen (with narrow knowlage due too way of basic education). Just ask them about coutries capitols using street simply test ... Very sad reality. I think that simply people are dumbiest till they use more technology like PCs calulators then use own brain to count.
Sorry this is XXI century revers mass people problem (narrow group of scientist and total group of idioits).
And you NOT going to see new Georgia wars since US republicans are no longer in power to provoke such activity. They use Georgia for their own agenda and threw away as used condom. Get reality check - Saakashvili is not welcomed by Georgians.
Looking at your profile - you obviously preoccupied with Cold War paranoia.
Considering your age all I can tell you - get a fucking LIFE loser.
Your cold war paranoia is sitting in KREML. His name is PUTIN. RU smile OBAMA democracy standards believing. RU use it as WEST weaknes. Example? Pipelnines and gas contracts (energy today is power). RU use EU law and open market to put hands on all transit lines buiying even politics one by one. Look at Shreader NS project case. They use maphia contracts to break energy independece of many countries. Any USA, EU company will never use such methods due to strong law - RU pahia is not depend. Sad.
You are naive believing that Georgians porvoke any conflict. KREML from 1992 work to put hands on this region. Last independent country with no RU maphia connected pipelines was Georgia. Look at map and stop talking RU propganda shit that small Georgia and president was insane attacking big RU (even USA will think twice to start any conflict). You are typical RU win propaganda thinking example. Understand that KGB totaly hating west) is PUTIN (unchangable new tzar pissing on democracy ).
You don't know nothing about RU problems and agressive policy here. I will not talk with narrow thinking idividuals who never try KREML kindness and democracy standards cpunted in milions dead here. This is Your close history education problem. Read abut Berlin wall, Polish Solidarity and how freedom only 20years ago come here. It was not RU kindness which gave us a freedom. PUTIN is
100% old KGB trained officer totaly hated west. Better read facts.
Yes check calendar - only 20y eago and check members of KREML (all living KGB shit put hands today on 2009 govermant). Do You have any problems with logic thinking? Look at level of hate and fear they produce against west in last year - especially by USA aqusation of every evil on world. Level of anty west proaganda is like in cold war times. They use "bad" USA to excuse any own mistakes (especially total economy shit they posses). So love your haters and gave them free hand
I propose You to go to library take few books and read about new RU reality, and look at maps with pipelines. For YOu education will be better then psychiatrist - especially very close history of KGB memmbers in KREML. Do you know haw they officialy named our freedom in WEST- shitocracy. Very funny especially that they openly made maphiacracy with highest ever corruption level and pission on international law (look at signed Georgia agreemants problems). I have no doubts of such partnership.
For me and 39 milions of Poles is significant - it's enouhg to care. For You knowlage - we are fatstest developing country in EU with biggest growth even in crissis so don't talk with me like uneducated American. I listen that in USA citizens pissing in pants on warld RUSSIA. USA is so strong nation (significant) but with RU act like chicken. Better arrive here and try to live close to KREML year by year economy blackmails and military threats all Baltic countries suffer but we don't afraid.
Power blackmail - you do not know about what speak:) Ukraine received gas on 50 % less than the world prices for gas! And even at this price - have managed to run into debt for 1 year! It is Ukraine threatened Russia! If Russia ceases to deliver gas to Ukraine Ukraine will close a pipe on which gas goes to Europe...
In Ukraine the power put by America... By means of soft revolution... The Ukrainian president is supported less by than 5 % of the population... Gas to Ukraine arrives to a business concern, and this firm sells gas to the Ukrainian consumers in 2 times more expensively... Who is not difficult to guess gets over profit from gas... Do conclusions!
Ukraine recived last time bandit price ultimatum to force govermant to sell own pipelines (just like Bialorus last time). We remember all false PUTIN stealing accusations and crime RU gas commedy in EU. All was done in hard crissis time to make people more poor and ungry. Ukraine economy tragedy us best xample of RU shit monopol and energy blackmails policy effects. Yushchenko 5% is 100% KREML hard work to put here next KGB idiot like Lukashenka in Bialorus few years ago. Easy conclusion.
If Ukraine will lost own pieplines- last big incames source will end. PUTIN by making Ukraine total poor country will easy manipulate vote unger. Youshchenko fighting KREML total energy monopol shit here so PUTIN need to finished him fast. Becouse he not managed to put hands on pipelines he will cut Ukraine transit incames by buliding NStream piepline circling it This is worst economy fact for any Ukrainian. PUTIN is poor life, hate and fear spreader to better govern milions -old KGB school!
If to you on work will cease to pay the salary - that you will make? The answer: some time will wait, and then do not come to work! The same and with gas! It is necessary to pay!
The problem is created in Ukraine by people receiving very big money from for differences between the world price and that on which Ukraine received gas. Russia sold gas on 50 % more cheaply, and the Ukrainian firm sold gas in Ukraine twice more expensively!:) it is very big money! With this feeding trough are fed not only the first persons in Ukraine, but those who has put your president...
Nothing changed fact that Ru to all problems add 200% higher price just in crissis time. For any poor country this is crime Why Bialorus had no problem to had lower prices? They paid higher price for own future selling all pipelines and lost all transit incames for ever Its death sentance for idnependence too! PUTIn thought that if he will use the same blackmail (maphia style) with cutting gas for all he wil be able to put hands on pipelines too and discredit Urkaine (lie theft accusation).
I am thick looking KREML style of maphia style business in EU. Energy blackmails are shit and only united EU against such force and hostile policy - talking here about any friednship after such barbarian destroying other countires acts is insane. All Eu countries openly accused PUTIN of shir games leading to total problems in Europe! This was best example that PUTIN is not worth trust and true friendship. He is main provokator and source of old cold war ideas he show us. So forget firends here.
In crissis time all should try to help others (we all depend of eachother) idiot PUTIN is plaing old KGB style games dangering any country disaster (energy) in this hard times! This idiot don't understand that making others deeper crissis he is making bigger trouble in RU. I am waiting when this old CCCP KGB disnosaur will venish. This will be first step for better life for all of us and true friednship and business partnership (helping not destroying)
Becouse he first blackamiling, forcing and detroying economy or rejoining territiories independent countries then he is surpirsed that he had problems with friends. He is idiot especially that after such bandit economy acts
and pissing of international law he next accusing others of beeing Rusophobs. This is biggest XXI century joke ever! I pray PUTIN lost power in KREML and Medviediew became not KGB remote control true president. This is RU chance!
Ru chance? Remember England? Most powerfull country in 18centures. They cession america. And what they have? Doggy americans? That they tell to him england do? You chance save independend Forget america and distances for him.
With all sympathy to Ru people - we are still blackamiled by KREML idiots. Look at RU generals ISANDERS scarying us (of coures we smile beeing NATO member) This is insane old cold war fear others style. USA invited RU to anty nuclear IRAN coalition to gave KREML chance to do something good for EU and own people to made wider defence system against hating all not muslims idiots.
Even last missle shield program was stoped but we recived ony RU/0BIalorus army manuvers " agaist WEST attack".Sad
We can be very close friends due to we are Slav borthers but KREML old KGB school idiotis need here hate and fear to better govern RU people. What is the best thing to divert RU people opinion of inside total economy problems? Outside enemy! Bad WEST or bad USA wanted attack with NATO poor RU people. Bad ,bad USA is source of world crissis so total RU economy shit (made mainly due to KREML not wise invested in economy for last years too) is only USA foult. We heard such idiot excuses in 80s.
KREML openly brekaing interntional laws (rejoining 1 side territories) or energy blackmailing EU (last gas commedy) is sadly to say hurt good Russia opinion. We know its mainly PUTIN work (he named as fighting of RU honor) but this is lie. He is worse RU opinion maker in world ever! PUTIN is for me biggest world ruspohobs maker too! He show that RU is not worth of trust anymore and full of post cold war thinking KGB educated idiots making openly anty WEST army trainings
PUTIN need such helping hand to reapir all 20y ago mistakes. KReml today don't need tanks to make ne hegemony an shit - look at internet RU hackers war against many west institutions and look at all energy blackmails they done (last total EU problems). So if You want to give a helping hand to PUTIN KGB dreams - I have no comment... I piss on RU energy monopoly over EU KREML is prepearing to kill us by prices after few years. Gergia was 1 step to cut EU of Middle East resources (pipelines).
The only good thing is that we all know that many Russians have nothing to KREML crimes. RU opinion need times to think about big dilema of hard history. 1 hand Hitler close colaborations and crime Baltic countires dividing, 2 hand great pray in WWII helping all of us to avoid Hilter reality. We can't denied 600th Ru lost own life to help Poland to be free. Problem is that they couldn't gave us freedom becouse they was not free too. We need true and tell open sorry each other to find better life
in the aspect the Russian weapons seem identical to those western, in the reality western technology is clearly superior, I make an example the Italian panzer they are endowed with reactive caresses that withstand the Russian missiles and the Italian infantry it is endowed with missile driven that the Russian caresses destroy, the thing becomes in the airplanes and in the ships more evident, however this is a well-known thing.
In 1992 RU use the same "open on new democracy" story to force one side "Peace Keeping" mission in Kavkaz. Read haw many people died here in massacres till this time due to no control and no involving international forces or observers. Sorry but RU always use naive WEST and domocracy rules to easier brake rules and law. You can naive believe that RU are open and not babarian country. I like Obama but Russians always smile with such naive people. Soon he will understand old KGB thinking in KREML.
And the facts: Russia very much loses in information war... What for to Ukraine to pay for gas - it is necessary to suppress simply to Russia through mass-media...
Saakashvili would kill all population of South Ossetia and all mass-media would be silent... He did not expect that Russia to dare to help South Ossetia...
New Russia is the guarantor of stability in the world! Otherwise dirty games of the USA tens countries in the plantations...
KREML is master of information wars. Problem is that too many easy to check lies was prepeared like 2000 numbers of dead announced 1 day of war which was very hard to control. Whats more theory that Shaka decided or made any genocides suddenly venished. We will believe PUTIN saving lifes and peace keeping action if not few problematic facts like 250.000 Georgian refuges (not Osethians) or 2-10 PK not prooved dead (houndred UN died in last misions) not excuse or allow divide any countries!
but that was 40 years later and you were the soviet union
MrCocanuts 1 year ago
European Union's commission on Russia-Georgia war and recent WiliLeaks cables stated that it was Georgia that was agressor in that war against disputed region of S.Ossetia which was under EU (OSCE) peacekeeping mandate hold by Russians. Russian military responce was legal and necessary.
arlik100 1 year ago
who did win the war? russian or georgia?
MrCocanuts 1 year ago
@MrCocanuts :
no1
lashatotladze 1 year ago
@MrCocanuts
russia crushed georgia.
pacificguitarist 1 year ago
@MrCocanuts georgia
xBeTaHoUsEx 1 year ago
@MrCocanuts Russia of course, Russia win all wars
Disgorge2b 1 year ago
@Disgorge2b but they lost to japan in 1905
MrCocanuts 1 year ago
@MrCocanuts but then we took revenge in 1945, defeating the 2,5 million Kwantung Army in 23 days
Disgorge2b 1 year ago
Сразу Россия
EpicAirsoftBattles 1 year ago
Russia has a mandate. Russia could have prevented that war, by disarming those criminals payed by Kokhoti who himself is a fat criminal, actually carying a shit about the Ossetians and Georgians in South-Ossetia. Instead of assisting them, ambushing our boys at the border, they could have prevented skirmishes. Do you know how many people died because of sniping, mortaring and ambushes, sinces 2004 ? Some 200 on Russo-Ossetian and more than 150 on Georgian side. What for ?
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
@EmperorofTerra no body dies for nothing thous guys have died for freedom and i'm proud to be called georgian because of thous boy's
xBeTaHoUsEx 1 year ago
But he started a war, by barraging Tskhinvali, attacking the Ossetian positions, taking Ossetian villages. During that all, both sides committed unhuman war crimes. When the Russian eagle got active, it from the sky, raised all of Saakashvili's plans finally to the ground.
The ones who were actually betrayed, were the members of the Georgian Armed Forces, who were promissed to get assistment by US Forces in some 2 - 3 days, what of course, didn't happen.
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
I guess you know, that the Ossetians and Russian "Peackeepets" HAD their bases and recruiting camps split around the center of the city ?
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
More than 5.000 of 24.000 Georgian Infantrymen have deserted and are jailed since august.7 2008, because they refused the order to attack Tskhinvali, as the Ossetians count as our brothers and there are only a few dozen who really want to see bloodshed. The same goes for Russia, Ossetia, Abkhazia and the US. Some 12.-15.000 men were gathered in chaotical cicumstances. In such a situation it was impossible to start a war.
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
Anyway, barraging towns is not allowed according to international war agreement. Even if there are military installations and bunkers, especially ammo stores. But what happenes ? The US bombared a overpopulated Baghdad, the Israelis bombard Palestine constantly every month, the Sri Lankians kill thousands of innocent people, Urban fights in populated areas of entire Mexico. Devastation of Chechens etc.
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
Or the Isralis, who killed some 1.800 civilians in Palestine with massive artillery and airstrikes within of several days. The Georgians practically hit a ghost town, which was calculated at the night of action, to have been full with Russian soldiers and armed Ossetian Militants, instead of a few hundred Ossetian and Georgian civilians which were left.
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
Thousands of things happened before and during the war. Thousands of things and decicisions led to the georgian artillery barrage against a city, which was not completly evacuated. People are just blaiming everyone without knowledge of background etc. Did you hear about the German attack in Kundush, Afghanistan, here almost 200 people died ?
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
No no no no no. Putin is not better, my friend. Whenever Georgian soldiers leave a bit of Georgian ground. Either the Ossetians or the Russians get the order to push their checkpoints a bit further to the south. Now, that is fact and I really dislike those kind of actions. If Putin wanted, nobody would have been harmed. The Russians just could have hammered the Ossetians and let them stop skirmishing around against Georgian convoys and villages. But they didn't.
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
It sounded good. It gave hope. A man, studied all kind of things in the US, even was chief procecutor of a well known US firm, returned to Georgia, with full support of Europe and the United States. That made everyone so blind, that a maniac came to power and really really honsetly, Putin gave us the rest, because he used Saakashvili's emotions to trap him, if it was not planned anyway.
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
The entire country went corrupt. Why ? Because of all the wars and the breakdown of the Sovjet union. Georgia rapidly turned into a third world nation. Note, Georgia before the breakdown, was the second richest Nation in the UdSSR. People hungered, lost blood, lost patience. Gamsakhurdia gave them the rest. When Shevardnadze came to power, noone listened anymore. Corruption spread. The rose revolution followed. Saakasvhili's turn in 2003. What the "White Fox" ended in peace, the maniac craped.
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
Putin immidiatly arranged with the Ossetians and Abkhazians, to let some 90.000 refugees return. If the seperatists didn't accept, they would have been bitchslapped. So far so good. Now Shevardzandze was a man who prevented WW3 with Gorbatschew. Both, let the wall fell. Shevardnazde worked his ass of for a sovjet retreat from Afghanistan to prevent further bloodshed. Now he was a genius in politics somewhere else. But at home, he couldn't control any criminal. Noone listened
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
Look. A good relaton with Russia would have been perfect. Now look at what happend in the past, when Shevardnadze was president. In his late period of rule, he improved relations with the EU, then the US offered to train and equip our Armed Forces. Shevardnadze had excellent relations with Putin. He told him that, Putin accepted, under the condition, that there wont't be US bases. Shevardnadze accepted under the condition, that 70.000 refugees shoudl return.
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
Actually I have the theory that the entire war was planned by Saakashvili and Putin to both, improve their popularity. I mean, look at the facts. The Georgians were not really prepared. They were prepared for such combat, but no fucking asshole said anything about a war for august 2008. Commanders were replaced by majors and Saakashvilis acquaintances. When the alarms rang, the Soldiers ran out, grabed what they could and got the order to streighty run into South-Ossetia.
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
No, but there was a georgian engineer who invented one of Russia's most succesful satelites. You maybe heared from TAM ( Tbilisi Aerospace Manufacturing or Tbilisi Aircraft Manufacturing ) ? These plants built hundreds of Russian shuttle and satelite parts, some 250 SU-25s and some other few thousand aircrafts and Missiles.
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
I indeed read it somewhere in Wikipedia. I'll try to find it. Think, the egyptians mainly traded with slaves.
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
Well, the Ka-50, the Berkut and the T-95 / BMPT are some good reliable projects. I in fact respect that mighty developement of the Russian arms industry, although it still lacks on quantity of high-tech equipement. The Georgians faced a Russian army of the category: "high russian standarts and professionalism". You say, we have no pride of fighters. I say, we were betrayed by our gov. Up to 200 though boys were sacrificed and they offered their lifes for Georgia's victory.
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
The Armenians betrayed us in 1918 but were completly fucked after that cowardly attack against a georgian garrison. If the brits weren't there to stop and skirmish against us, we definitly would have put Yerevan to ashes.
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
Nazi Germany fought against the sovjet Union. The 720.000 Georgians fought mainly for the survival of Georgia, not only UdSSR. The egyptians visited Georgia some hundred or up to 1.000 years, before the Greeks attacked Georgia ( golden fleeze legend ). They tried to battle us, but were beaten because they also had to fight women in armour ( later called Amazons by greeks ) Armenians early attacked us, when Rome invaded Colchis and weakened the Georgian.
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
What the heck are you talking about ? Georgia asked Russia for help in the 18th century. Russia guaranteed help ans assistment. But when the Ottomans were beaten back, the Russians conquered norhtern parts of Georgia. Then they granted the Ottomans to take southern, large black sea cost parts of Georgia. Almost a third. The Azeris could also get a bit. Then thanks to your second betrayal in 1921, we lost the Lori disctrict to Armenia, although they were beaten, before georgian defeat
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
egyptians, Persians, Babylonians, Hethites, Greeks, Romans, Selucids, Armenians, Kypchaks, Mongolians, Ottomans, Alans, Byzantinians, Gots, Germans, Russians and some dozen different muslim coalitions. You only had to face the brits and the french, becaus you attacked us in 1921. .... -.-
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
That is easy to explain. We allways were under constand siege from all sides. Look at our positions, even on today's map. Azeris, there, Turks there, Iranians there. A few hundred years earlier, there were some dozens of different tribes and muslim Coalitions, allways trying to annex us and if they couldn't break our spirits, they almost completly whiped us out. The Georgians were just able to fight enough to maintain their lifes and culture.
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
It is officialy recorded, that Georgia fought most wars in mankinds history. lol
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
What is THE REALITY ? The reality is, that every Ottoman and Persian ruler had to defeat a georgian army, to gain popularity and the full title of King of Kings of the Mid Eastern Empire. The reality is, that the very major part of all the almost 360 wars, were won by Georgians. If the Ottomans or Persians ever were succesufll because they outnumbered us 7-2, than we crushed them years later after regaining might and rised with uprisings. If you want to know anything, read.
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
I guess, the Ottomans really "fucked" us during the Battle of Didgori.
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
Do you ever read history books ? You are just argumenting like following :"Hooo, the Persians destroyed your capital, that was the only war you georgians fought and you lost it".Great, now I can also claim: "Hooo, the Mongolians destroyed and fucked you for three centuries and this was the only war you gought and you lost decicively" What kind of childish crap is that !?
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
Suvurov and Kutuzov were indeed excellent commanders, as was Bagration and Mazniashvili for both Russia and Georgia one of the best.
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
Russia lost almost 6.000 men, the Ottomans and Armenians entire armies, while Georgia was defeated by betrayal and suffered only some 4.500 casulties in total. Who has beeing fucked ? I'll tell you. One Russian Army unit, two Ottoman army corps, the entire Armenian Army and finally the small 25.000 men strong Georgian army, loosing only some 4.500 men against 5 armies from 5 different directions.
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
You mean, when 20.000 Russian Infantrymen armed with muskets were 1 month long not able to take the Mtskheta garrison with a total of 500 georgian Khevsur warriors in chains, armed with sabers and muskets. Do you mean the betrayal of 1921 ? Wher we had to face the Ottomans, the Russians and the Armenians, almost beating them all ? Pathetic !
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
Which wars ???? LOOOOL
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
During Kievean Rus Era, the Georgian Kingdom and Georgian cultuire controlled and influenced parts of northern Russia, up to Sibiia. My mom lives in Germany and Stalin was not a Black guy lol ^^ btw. I bet you don't even know the meaning of Nigga
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
You are outside of reality. The reality is cold, the reality is a peanut of salery, the reality is pain, the reality is hunger, the reality is no fun except work. That is Russia. That is Georgia. With the only difference, that all Georgians aid eachother. Russians carry a shit about their neighbours. Only drinking, playing Backgammon, beating eachother, insulting eachother, insulting ethnic Caucasian groups, while the women get fucked by Caucasians.
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
LOOOOL, learn reading besides learning english. Russia didn't exist during the Byzantine Empire you fucking fool ..... lol
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
learn english, slut. I didn't even tell you anything, but you obviously allready know a bit. Yeah, yeah, visit Russia. You will experience what it is to be part of a 3rd world Nation. Russian and Georgian doctors have a pityfull sallery of 500 - 1200 USD. But I guess you know that, like you know that Bagration is one of a """"few"""" important ethnic Georgians in Russia history. There is no comparison of Georgians with Russians. That is impossible. We are united, you are drunk..
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
No idea of history, no idea of culture, no idea of world, no idea of politics, a giant cum filled mouth, splatting all around the net. No, splat someone else in his face. I had enough of your uneducation. You showed me enough, prowving that people like you aren't worth a dumbfuck. Thanks for wasting my time. I'll pray for you.
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
You coward TV whore. If you have so giant balls, go to Russia and experience what I did.
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
Because I answered in english you stupid fuck ? English is world language and not Russian. I have no doubts that you are some idiot Nazi living somewhere in Canada and the US. Didn't they teach you there anything !?
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
whatever. Just stfu. Youre another hopeless russophile case.
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
You don't know a shit about us. Nothing. We allways had to fight against 1 to 4 enemies at one, who sometimes outnumbered us 5 - 1 in quantity, if not more. We Georgians are figthers, like we were centuries ago. We maintained our culture for several thousands of years and defended it with uncomparisal sacrifise and bloodshed. So many had the Ottomans to suffer, invading us, so many had all muslims who tried to break our spirits and so many will anyone who tries to steal anything from us
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
Every single day of the 16,000 years old united Georgia's history, was written in blood. Invasions, wars, wars, wars, wars. No other country can count as many wars as Georgia had to go through. Empires crushed. Nations rised and crushed. We Georgians allways defended our ground to the last man and if we were not succesfull, we intigrated ourselfes in the culture of the invaders, never fogetting who we are never loosing culture. When the time was right, we made uprisings and beated the enemy.
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
What the fucking hell, do YOU know about us, or even about the entre Caucasus, the Tatra, Eastern Russia, Sibiria. The yellow sea !? What the fucking shit do you TV whore know about all that. Did you ever studied Russian history !? Do you know how many times, any single Russian Zardom, except Peter's, was assfucked by Ottomans and other muslims, or mongolians ???? Mongolians were selling and fucking Russian women and girls. Dozens for each mongolian soldier.
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
You claim that Georgia is a bitch, because it allways held contact to enemies and friends, to prevent tota destruction. You know a fucking pice of shit. The most famous Persian and Ottoman leaders and commanders, were Georgian. A lot of famous Russian leaders and Commanders were Georgian. What did I say, a lot ? No, not a lot, most precice, almost half of them. Scientists, phycicians, painters, musicians, directors. All the statues and monuments made by Georgian hands in St. Petersburg.
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
This ís what your beloved Propaganda war machinery does to the little part of duraks under us. Totally assfucking and doubleraping their brains. You are in the category: "I let my brain beeing penetrated and cum filled from all sides and I accept it". Bad Georgia, Bad USA, Bad World. Good Putin, Good drunk former KGB in Minister positions, Good politics. ADVANCED RUSSIA, POOR UNCULTURED BARBARIAN WORLD. You need to visit Russia. Then you will undestand that pornos alone wont save you.
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
Russian history compared with Georgia's, is the same apeshit, like your God leaders are treating your homecountry. You so beloved Kremlin monopole only exists because we Georgians took a heart and went with you through all kind of wars, not to talk about all the miseries we had to go through against Ottomans, Persians, Kypchaks and Azeris, just to defend ourselfs and prevent them to pass Georgia and enter Kevlan Rus, which would have been turned into a muslim nation.
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
You reached a point, were idiocy can't be healed anymore. You don't even know what Churka means you fucking little bitch. Stop smashing the entire Russian population into pig shit you little uneducated TV whore. What you need, is a crash course in life. Go join your new country's army. They will fucking teach you how to learn culture and history you assfucked hairy immigrant monkey. I can ruin your pityfull life in 8 different languages suka. Guys like you are all same. Bydlos nothing else
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
If you think that internet, video games and pronos are the way of life, than many people will tell and teach you the opposite. Maybe you have luck and you'll find someone, or someone finds you and washes out all the crap from your damaged brain.
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
People like you have nothing done to the world, than sitting in front of their Win98s and spreading their mental illness to much dumber people. Again, hump up, search a job or something. Are you religious. I guess not. Read a book, go out, search friends. Forget Russia, forget Georgia, do something for your wasted life.
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
Name me any Georgians who says anything wrong about Russian people. Name me one you know or you read from, heard from, whatever. Russians and Georgians had best relations since the Russia you know, started to exist a few hundred years ago as a baby culture. What the bloody hell are you able to tell anyone. You russophile duraks are the junks, the dark side of Russias foreign educaton, which' brains are completly infiltrated by Mafias, controlling the Russian Federation.
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
I currently have no fucking brain cell to sacrifice on simple Russian language, which phrases up to 50% consist of insults and swearwords. What do you little worm know about life you fucking idiot ?! I was in the army, I was in Russia, Moscow, I know more Russians than you will talk to in your entire useless existance. I know 7 different languages excluding Georgian, I studied, I worked, I fought, I read, I wrote. What the heck did you do for yourself, not to talk about anything for anyone else
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
Respect the entire planet. Go around, visit countries, learn more than 3-4 languages, learn 7 and 8.
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
I am making something of my life. Seeing everything, thinking about everything. Guys like you are ending up in dreamlands for state TV zombies. Stay on the planet surface you dreamers and build up a life.
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
I know Russia like a second Georgia.
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
You are a Nazi, you spread hatred against Georgians.
WHo do you know you piece of shit !? You don't even know your own alphabet. Who do you want to know about ? One if not the oldest human cultures on this planet !? What the fuck is this dumbfucking around, all about !? Showing your level of intilligence. Do you have a rough imagination about Caucasus and Russia ? DId you ever visit Georgia ? Why the fuck do you believe you have the right to claim such incredible bullshit !?
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
I know more than you will ever learn you idiot.
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
.... and stop smashing the face of RUssia's educaton system much deeper into mud than it actually is Mr. Historican
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
Stick your hatred against Georgians elsewhere you fucking Nazil.
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
You'r most inrpirating dream is to be a Russian you fucking fool. I alone would outmatch you in russian language. I hope, life in Canada or US will fresh up your brain you silly monkey.
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
0:41 gimme VODKA LoL :D:D
shadowpero 2 years ago
The sad TRUTH is, that you guys somewhere around the world with immense knowledge about georgian culture, history and people, allways know more than any georgian and russian historican themselves. Try to built up a live and stop defending fucking politicians who are living in Dachas greater than palaces and are having fun with prostitutes, drugs and money, which belongs to the population. How can a fucking president be a fucking multi-billionary using his country as monopoile for himself
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
hat happened in 2008 ? Georgia responded against Ossetian provocations and got itself trapped because nobody wanted to assist us when Russia responded. What would have brought us anything positive if the war continued. Only blood shed and thousands of dead, again. Russia would have got my ass, if the Georgian army didn't retreated and leave all their equipement to win time for diplomatical solutions.
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
Russians can only "fuck" people, when they are in groupd, bu allways got assfucekd when they fight all alone.
Take for example all 3 wars in Georgia in the 90s. How many enemies did Georgia have to face ?
Russians
Armenians
Chechens
Abkhazians
Ossetians
and other ethnic Caucasian groups.
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
When did Russia fuck us !? You mean the 18th century when you stabbed a knife in our back, after we almost had no military ressources anymore to fight against the muslums ?? Is that your way of relations ? Betrayal !? When did you fuck us ?? In 1921 ?? We fucked 4 different armies from 4 different directions youasshole, Just because of the betrayal of Russia and our government, the 51st Russian army entered Tblisi without fighting.
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
I went to Germany because of your provoked war in 1990 you fucking son of a bitch. At that time, medical treatement was not guaranteed because of the chaos there and my brother who was born right in the middle of war, would have died if we didn't fly to germany. You piece of shit. Choose your words. I don't fucking give a crap about your opinion and you for sure do not live in Russia, because Russians are not that mentaly damaged. Fucking idiot.
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
You fucking Russophile and US-Russian/Canada-Russian mental poor people know more about the "TRUTH" than any Russian in Moskow. Yea, just get the fuck out of my attention !
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
Oh, c'mon stop this shit you immigrant, find a job and take care about your future. 90% óf you idiots will die in foreign countries. Who the fuck wants to be with Russia .... LoL ? Some fat criminals trying to build up a little monopole on souvereign land, while beeing assstuffed by Oncle Putin, with drugs, money and weapons. You are debile. You see this all like whooo, Georgia started and Russia responded, what btw is a total elemental fail of logic.
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
Stuff this, buy an allotment and grow veg`
DreamRaker 2 years ago
Hussein has been killed through hanging on the gallows - for a similar crime... Saakashvili still in power... Why? The answer: because so wants the USA... Double standards + influence on world mass-media... So the USA gains money, and we Georgians, Russian, Ossetins, Chechens we pay in blood for their fat bums...
Andrey16rus 2 years ago
There where the USA there war... Why not who does not abuse the USA...? And after all they have really made and make a large quantity of war crimes... Also there are concrete proofs and even video... What are all afraid of them? Or pay well?
Andrey16rus 2 years ago
And now the most interesting...: who financed billions dollars of these pedophiles? I at all will not be surprised if it is the USA through intermediaries... And even now some terrorists (their fault is proved) hide in some European countries, and the authorities of these countries do not hasten to promote... It is a policy on blood.... But Russia here in what is guilty?
Andrey16rus 2 years ago
Here the general conclusions of the commission:
- Georgia an aggressor
- Georgia has begun war with bombardment of civilians by installations GRAD
- Georgia has broken many the international conventions
And many other things...
It is the international commission (its structure included even the aggressive countries to us, but the facts are so obvious that to another they could not treat event). You call their opinion into question?
Andrey16rus 2 years ago
Russia has killed more than 20-50.000 Chechen civilians in the second Chechnya war, which just ended this year, 2009.
international commission .O.O
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
About the Chechen Republic... It is really sick theme for Russia...
In the Chechen Republic there were present gangsters... Drug traffic, the weapon, people... Abduction, custom-made murders... The Whip-round from business... Numerous терракты... The Same Beslan (school capture)... They are pedophiles, murderers... It not Chechentsi... But at these pedophiles it is a lot of money... And many Chechentsi have not resisted such big money...
Andrey16rus 2 years ago
You are massmurdering hundred thousands of innocent people from a different ethnic group and are talking about international conventions ?????!!!!
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
Russia is more guitly for provoking the war than georgia for starting the war. Read the UN result. Russia is fucked. Putin was damn angry about the final commissional result
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
And who you? To bomb a night city, to kill sleeping civilians? To throw pomegranates in cellars in which the scared people hide...
It occurred then when Russia was not...
You cowardly heroes... Have attacked on tanks against a shovel and automatic machines...
Andrey16rus 2 years ago
The GAF was acutally fighting against two VDV batallions in Tskhinvali, there were no ciivilians and no peacekeepers, there was only intense fighting and you cowards were hiding and shooting our tanks with RPG and MiGs
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
Would send 1000 Georgian to South Ossetia on foot with automatic machines... (It is better to sit in the tank... And to shoot on the car with women and children... It is cheerful and безопастно... So you also have made... A shame to you...)
Andrey16rus 2 years ago
There aren't even evidances of your claim.
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
Read!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The result is unequivocal!!!
Georgia has begun military operations...
Georgia has broken set of the international contracts...
Georgia...
Georgia...
Georgia...
Actions of Russia within the limits of the international laws!
The only thing of what have accused Russia is for excess of fighting units of technics... And even it can be challenged...
Andrey16rus 2 years ago
60 of 100% goes on Russias cap. I allready read and Georgia is guilty for starting the war, damaging Tskhinvalii and that a dozen of civilians PROBABLY have died during the georgian assault. Russia is even guilty for responding, for responding inadequate and overaxxegerated, for invading georgian territory in and outside Sout-Ossetia, for aiding Ossetians in ambushes, for provoking, for preparing, for commiting genocide ..... etc. etc. etc, Remember who had to elave Tskhinvali !!!!
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
If Russia was not stirred?
What would be lagged behind South Ossetia?
If Russia has saved ONE life - this act is justified!
there hundreds... Thousand
Have entered on the Georgian territory: On the commission conclusion - Russia operated within the limits of INTERNATIONAL LAW!
Andrey16rus 2 years ago
Read! I have more low written to you in what accuse Russia...
Andrey16rus 2 years ago
To all naive, believing in mass-media for example as CNN I advise to esteem the report of the international commission! There one facts!
Russia there too have a little accused...
On each 1000 Georgian military men we should direct no more than 1000 Russian military men... Bosh... (If on a city one loony goes and shoots on all... To neutralise it one policeman should...?)
Andrey16rus 2 years ago
1000 Russians vs 1000 Georgians is enough because you bastards allways have air superiority and long range artillery and short range missiles.
EmperorofTerra 2 years ago
facking russians bastards,I hope that their people starve to dead.
tanello2 2 years ago
Russians are good pepople! They suffered much more then any country own KREML crimes. We lost only 1 milion after Stalin terror but RU lost 30milons citizens! Hitler only help to erase more. KREML problem is that as winners knowone jujged own criminals from similar to SS camps - Syberia guags (work camps). Not jujged total cirminals created KREML elite totaly changing vision of true, history facts and way of thinking about democracy. PUTIN is old KGB crime school succesor -so all have trouble
PolishFactor 2 years ago
CNN creatures are brainless!!!
Alexandr62ru 2 years ago 2
and you are clever!
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jeezck 2 years ago
When I have been in the Kosowo I have seen the Russian soldiers, I have had an ugly impression, they are armed badly, but the thing that has impressed more me has been to see their checkpoints they put two burnt rubbers, contrarily Italians more or less the English and the Americans acted to the same way with more professionalisms.
normannodelsud 2 years ago
Why exactly they were armed 'badly'?
Enlighten me please?
zrvpvo8789 2 years ago
PolishFactor
LOL!
U are funny :)
rusbp 2 years ago
Communism make are free us, democracy is lieing dirty foolish
Die USA Die USA, Satan on your heads
Obama is russian agent KGB ha ha ha !!! lenin... vodka... kremlin.... suka tupie americosi sdohnite nahui
Unamericanable 2 years ago
russians are afraid of americans because we have locater missiles if they sent nukes to us we can destory them in mid flight if we sent nukes to them they dotn have locater missiles there fucked if they try to bomb amercica
assassin3883 2 years ago
If not Georgian own one side sease fire it would be longest and bloody war for RU with houndred thousand dead (Aphganistan II).
Georgians are too brave nation not to fight to the end. PUTIN would be politicly fast finished. The only option was pacify most off civil population of Georgians like in Chechnia and estimate next extrmintion camp. World would not accept Chechnia II and new RU Hitler due to no excuse in UN mass killing independent country (not inside RU territory to not inetrfere).
PolishFactor 3 years ago
LOL.
1. its was an ossetin land. Georgians would be in Afganista2. LOL.
2. georgian are brave? like a stalin who killed poles in Katyn? LOL.
3. Im caucasian and i never heard there about camps in chechnya. LOL.
4. Killing Ossetian people by georgians its ok for you? maybe. But not for us. Other Caucas countries, al caucasus against saakashvili. Also chechnya, armenia and azerbadzhan. Also most part of georgians.
stop watchin tv-shit. brother.
rusbp 2 years ago
1.Osethains arrived here. 2. Georgians prooved theur bravery in many wars so forget lowering their will to fight trying to make biger RU shit "win". RU lost due to most WEST investors fly away after this shit war prooving only RU as barbarian country able easy to break any international laws. Putin story of mass killing (2000 geoncides) Osethians is 100% prooved as lie to make Caucas countries angry and against Georgians to excuse own RU war crimes. RU lost only west trust and money in crissis.
PolishFactor 2 years ago
1. Ossetians with their lands joined Russia 150 years befor georgians. South ossetia was cutted and gived to georgia by georgian stalin.
2. I have many relatives in caucasus and ALL of them hates saakashvili. and i dont know what a fuck you teaching me about situation in caicas, its a same if i would start teach you about relations between pole towns.
LOL.
dont be so stupid, you dont know NOTHING.
Thanks that you SOLD a slav kosovo lands. Trailors...
rusbp 2 years ago
Your only 150years too short Osthians history "facts" is the same true like others Ru bull shits. First Osethians arrvived here as Gerogians servants. This land was never "Osethians" and is still by international law only Georgian. It's shame I need to teach You your land undeniable facts. Kosovo case was openly named as mistake and oficcialy announced as exeption wich should never be made anymore! So RU openly repeat twice "Kosovo" crime!. Soon Macedonia will lose Neardniepr part . RU shit !
PolishFactor 2 years ago
Georgians proved their bravery? They were running like rabbits. And how are RU barbarian if Georgians committed genocide? And stop hating Russia too much, are you even aware of how many Russians did poles kill? Your country is a disgrace to all Slavic nations.
russianinja2008 2 years ago
2008- learn your true history and RU scale of crimes in my country too. Stalin biggest ever murderer of Slavic nations with 30mln dead is Your biggest disgrace for us. Talking about Georgians defending 100%own land like cowards is so stiupid porpaganda that I will not comment it. They had good trained and similary equiped army so forget KREML propaganda shit. PUTIN lied about genocides and forgot to tell about Georgian 1 side sease fire and ordered retreat shown as running and RU in fight win.
PolishFactor 2 years ago
Stalin was Georgian, so don't give me that crap about murderous Russians. Stalin killed more Ukrainians and Russians than poles so shut up about the evil Russians. I know that after 3 divisions of Poland and polish massacre in 40's you're pissed but its history get over with it.
russianinja2008 2 years ago
You presented here typical KEMLIN made thinking way. Stalin was 100% Ru govermant leader. Lenin was 100% RU leader. Dierzinskij NKWD murderer was 100% RU too Place of their barth (Georgia, Germany Poland) - have here nothing! All RU scumbags respomsibile for death of milions Slavs! Georgian true version history You need correct with Georgians I have good contacts. Your PK openly military supported Osethians militia in fights so they automaticly lost UN mandate and became agressors here.Educate
PolishFactor 2 years ago
Stalin was in parades in gori to protest the russian language taught in schools. Oh trust me he was antirussian, but pro-soviet. Poles still commited many atrocities against russians. But its history right? Look my grandma was polish and we all slavs and everything. But russians took their revenge, and soviets are not russians you have to know that.
russianinja2008 2 years ago
LOL.
stalin was 100% georgian, you asshole.
rusbp 2 years ago
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PolishFactor 2 years ago
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He was only born in Georgia but was 100% Ru leader living in KREML. Had he Gorgians passoport and was Georgia lider living in capitol of his country or RU 1 most important citizen? I don't know Your shool logic thinking but I can olny smile reading such comments. This means that Ru was for all Stalin time - Georgia territory. RUSbp - stop drink....
PolishFactor 2 years ago
So tell your Kreml propganda tellers that "stiupid" Shaka saved by his order to stop fight and retreat thousands of own and RU soldiers lifes. Thanks Shaka becouse RU generals and PUTIN learn nothing about fights in mountains in Aphganistan and possible numbers of caosulties in many years bloody war with bigger and better equiped nations defending own land. I tell You once more . Georgian bravery was prooved many times in history so don't repeat idiot propganda to cover risk PUTIN made here.
PolishFactor 2 years ago
Georgians in 1812 ran like rabbits to ask tsar aleksander to count them in for russian empire. In 1921 they wanted to secede, but Georgian stalin wanted them to be in USSR. In 2008 they took tremendous casualties while fighting 15 russia peacekeepers=major war crime is to fight with peace keeper. Unlike americans we don't bpmb mass civilian targets, thats why we lost afghan, besides we cleared everyhting for americans so they have no one to fight with.
russianinja2008 2 years ago 2
yeah - in 1812 RU used Persian war fact to put hands on part of Turkey too. In 1807 RU divided Poland puting hands on 82% of our teritory (complitely destroying our independence) - we are very greathefull for this "help" and your "cover" too. We should be greathfull for Lenin 100.000 army hords attaking in 1920 my country and last 40year after 1945 of RU slaving us comunist regime. I think YOu are little mad like your Kremlin firnds telling me RU history crimes as noble facts. It's close shame
PolishFactor 2 years ago
After 1991 our dum assed prime minister destroyed our glorious and powerful country. They just told you to live like everyone else, but you wanted democracy here we go you have it now enjoy it. Don't be afraid, russia will not invade poland unless nato does something stupid. I am tired everyone scapegoats russia.
Just because we were the biggest and we have most nuclear weapons in the world. So what?
russianinja2008 2 years ago
PolishFactor, instead of running your mouth about 'history of Russian aggression' - why don't you recall your very recent invasion of Iraq? What exactly business Poland has in Iraq?
Is that what you call 'independence' and democracy?
zrvpvo8789 2 years ago
zrvpvo - better check USA and Europe suecide attacks facts then tell us what to do with Alakida problems we was earlier involved. If few idots dream all world will change freedom on Talib vershion religous crime coutry rules reality waitnig and only watching crimes You are little insane. So live our deomcracy and go to Talib reality to understand problem. You should always remmember scale of Husein crimes on Kurds and Kuwait invasion. Balkans NATO ending war action saving houndred thousands too
PolishFactor 2 years ago
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zrvpvo8789 2 years ago
Taliban was created by Pakistan with support of US. Saddam was a big friend of US when he gassed Iranians with gas made with support of US company in 80's. Why don't you learn history instead of running your mouth on subject you don't have clue. And learn English before you wanted to write here.
zrvpvo8789 2 years ago
Taliban made total terror with tragic crimes against own people. Find better their roots
in easy way of fooling uneducated people by a group of scumbags using religion to expalain evident crimes. Saddam is murderer
erased by NATO. Whole world is dealing with China and RU (prooved big crimes ) so what?
In Balkans NATO stoped quickly war (ONZ was useless watching only human massacre).
I count haw many people saved their lifes due to NATO help - not only dead (made due to no such presence). Easy.
PolishFactor 2 years ago
US involvement in Iraq killed by far more people in 5 years then in whole time Saddam ruled Iraq. There are many places in the world where people die. Why don't you Poles save Sudanians or Somalis?
'Whole world is dealing with China and RU ' US fights in Iraq with money BORROWED from China. You need to get in touch with reality - Bush/Cheney era is over. Obama seeking friendly relation with Russia so STFU you paranoid polak.
zrvpvo8789 2 years ago
Your "involvement" theory is very unclear definition. If trhowing bomb into crowded place full of children to kill one soldier working as policeman is for You this policeman crime (who lost their life to preserve these innocent people too) - You have a little problem with logic thinking. PL soldires served in may African coutries too (especially clearing land mines as ONZ soldiers). Blame them too. Their are involed in land mines massacres too. KGB in KREML soon will use Obama naive firendship.
PolishFactor 2 years ago
You've got your head shovewed so far up your ass that you see a whole different world from there. Where do you get all the nonsense you write in broken english you moron?
zrvpvo8789 2 years ago
If You have a problem with understanding my broken English I can write it in Polish or Russian - closer EAST Europe problems. I try to look little far at future. Kreml always understand only hard force and simply way of talking. Democracy and freedom west rules are for old KGB leadres like PUTIN only weakness easy too use. Rirst act then talk rule is unchangable due to possibility to be 1 step forwared any civilised country like USA. So soon You will see new Georgia wars
and rejoinings.
PolishFactor 2 years ago
It's not my problem understanding your poor English - it's rather your ignorant view of the world.
You can consider Obama 'naive' but majority of Americans country of 300 million chose him as a president. I bet he's a 'bit' a more educated then average polish nobody. At least he knew the difference between Shia an Sunni before 2003 which was too complicated for Bush - the dumbest president in US history.
zrvpvo8789 2 years ago
Sorry man but in % Polish and RU people are more educated and read more books and know more about world then simply USA citizen (with narrow knowlage due too way of basic education). Just ask them about coutries capitols using street simply test ... Very sad reality. I think that simply people are dumbiest till they use more technology like PCs calulators then use own brain to count.
Sorry this is XXI century revers mass people problem (narrow group of scientist and total group of idioits).
PolishFactor 2 years ago
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zrvpvo8789 2 years ago
And you NOT going to see new Georgia wars since US republicans are no longer in power to provoke such activity. They use Georgia for their own agenda and threw away as used condom. Get reality check - Saakashvili is not welcomed by Georgians.
Looking at your profile - you obviously preoccupied with Cold War paranoia.
Considering your age all I can tell you - get a fucking LIFE loser.
zrvpvo8789 2 years ago
Your cold war paranoia is sitting in KREML. His name is PUTIN. RU smile OBAMA democracy standards believing. RU use it as WEST weaknes. Example? Pipelnines and gas contracts (energy today is power). RU use EU law and open market to put hands on all transit lines buiying even politics one by one. Look at Shreader NS project case. They use maphia contracts to break energy independece of many countries. Any USA, EU company will never use such methods due to strong law - RU pahia is not depend. Sad.
PolishFactor 2 years ago
You are naive believing that Georgians porvoke any conflict. KREML from 1992 work to put hands on this region. Last independent country with no RU maphia connected pipelines was Georgia. Look at map and stop talking RU propganda shit that small Georgia and president was insane attacking big RU (even USA will think twice to start any conflict). You are typical RU win propaganda thinking example. Understand that KGB totaly hating west) is PUTIN (unchangable new tzar pissing on democracy ).
PolishFactor 2 years ago
I already told you.
But I will repeat - get a life and education deluded moron.
zrvpvo8789 2 years ago
You are moron and RU shit propaganda victim.
You don't know nothing about RU problems and agressive policy here. I will not talk with narrow thinking idividuals who never try KREML kindness and democracy standards cpunted in milions dead here. This is Your close history education problem. Read abut Berlin wall, Polish Solidarity and how freedom only 20years ago come here. It was not RU kindness which gave us a freedom. PUTIN is
100% old KGB trained officer totaly hated west. Better read facts.
PolishFactor 2 years ago
Who cares about Solidarity, Berlin wall, Hungary 1956 . Should I continue?
Have you checked the calendar lately - it is 2009 not 1981.
'Kreml' just hosted Eurovideo - the BEST in the history.
Like I said - get a LIFE you idiot.
zrvpvo8789 2 years ago
Yes check calendar - only 20y eago and check members of KREML (all living KGB shit put hands today on 2009 govermant). Do You have any problems with logic thinking? Look at level of hate and fear they produce against west in last year - especially by USA aqusation of every evil on world. Level of anty west proaganda is like in cold war times. They use "bad" USA to excuse any own mistakes (especially total economy shit they posses). So love your haters and gave them free hand
to plan new shit.
PolishFactor 2 years ago
Dude; if you have this kind of idiocy come up on its own in your mind - check yourself with psychiatrist ASAP until it's too late...
zrvpvo8789 2 years ago
I propose You to go to library take few books and read about new RU reality, and look at maps with pipelines. For YOu education will be better then psychiatrist - especially very close history of KGB memmbers in KREML. Do you know haw they officialy named our freedom in WEST- shitocracy. Very funny especially that they openly made maphiacracy with highest ever corruption level and pission on international law (look at signed Georgia agreemants problems). I have no doubts of such partnership.
PolishFactor 2 years ago
I propose - you STFU.
Can you do that?
zrvpvo8789 2 years ago
I propose You better Polish version - WSD.
PolishFactor 2 years ago
You know what your problem is - you just can't get over the fact that Poland is not sagnificant country and always be somebody's lap dog.
Polish 'Factror' - who cares?
Sorry - I'll stay with American version.
zrvpvo8789 2 years ago
For me and 39 milions of Poles is significant - it's enouhg to care. For You knowlage - we are fatstest developing country in EU with biggest growth even in crissis so don't talk with me like uneducated American. I listen that in USA citizens pissing in pants on warld RUSSIA. USA is so strong nation (significant) but with RU act like chicken. Better arrive here and try to live close to KREML year by year economy blackmails and military threats all Baltic countries suffer but we don't afraid.
PolishFactor 2 years ago
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zrvpvo8789 2 years ago
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' I listen that in USA citizens pissing in pants on warld RUSSIA.'
It's nothing more then your delusions - get yourself checked.
39 million Poles is not the reason to run your mouth online with paranoid uneducated crap.
In US and in Europe - Saakashvili actions was denounced LONG TIME ago.
Even Polish president said that Saakashvili staged attack on them.
So I will repeat - get reality check and get a LIFE.
zrvpvo8789 2 years ago
PolishFactor
Power blackmail - you do not know about what speak:) Ukraine received gas on 50 % less than the world prices for gas! And even at this price - have managed to run into debt for 1 year! It is Ukraine threatened Russia! If Russia ceases to deliver gas to Ukraine Ukraine will close a pipe on which gas goes to Europe...
Andrey16rus 2 years ago
In Ukraine the power put by America... By means of soft revolution... The Ukrainian president is supported less by than 5 % of the population... Gas to Ukraine arrives to a business concern, and this firm sells gas to the Ukrainian consumers in 2 times more expensively... Who is not difficult to guess gets over profit from gas... Do conclusions!
Andrey16rus 2 years ago
Ukraine recived last time bandit price ultimatum to force govermant to sell own pipelines (just like Bialorus last time). We remember all false PUTIN stealing accusations and crime RU gas commedy in EU. All was done in hard crissis time to make people more poor and ungry. Ukraine economy tragedy us best xample of RU shit monopol and energy blackmails policy effects. Yushchenko 5% is 100% KREML hard work to put here next KGB idiot like Lukashenka in Bialorus few years ago. Easy conclusion.
PolishFactor 2 years ago
If Ukraine will lost own pieplines- last big incames source will end. PUTIN by making Ukraine total poor country will easy manipulate vote unger. Youshchenko fighting KREML total energy monopol shit here so PUTIN need to finished him fast. Becouse he not managed to put hands on pipelines he will cut Ukraine transit incames by buliding NStream piepline circling it This is worst economy fact for any Ukrainian. PUTIN is poor life, hate and fear spreader to better govern milions -old KGB school!
PolishFactor 2 years ago
If to you on work will cease to pay the salary - that you will make? The answer: some time will wait, and then do not come to work! The same and with gas! It is necessary to pay!
Andrey16rus 2 years ago
The problem is created in Ukraine by people receiving very big money from for differences between the world price and that on which Ukraine received gas. Russia sold gas on 50 % more cheaply, and the Ukrainian firm sold gas in Ukraine twice more expensively!:) it is very big money! With this feeding trough are fed not only the first persons in Ukraine, but those who has put your president...
Andrey16rus 2 years ago
Nothing changed fact that Ru to all problems add 200% higher price just in crissis time. For any poor country this is crime Why Bialorus had no problem to had lower prices? They paid higher price for own future selling all pipelines and lost all transit incames for ever Its death sentance for idnependence too! PUTIn thought that if he will use the same blackmail (maphia style) with cutting gas for all he wil be able to put hands on pipelines too and discredit Urkaine (lie theft accusation).
PolishFactor 2 years ago
I am thick looking KREML style of maphia style business in EU. Energy blackmails are shit and only united EU against such force and hostile policy - talking here about any friednship after such barbarian destroying other countires acts is insane. All Eu countries openly accused PUTIN of shir games leading to total problems in Europe! This was best example that PUTIN is not worth trust and true friendship. He is main provokator and source of old cold war ideas he show us. So forget firends here.
PolishFactor 2 years ago
In crissis time all should try to help others (we all depend of eachother) idiot PUTIN is plaing old KGB style games dangering any country disaster (energy) in this hard times! This idiot don't understand that making others deeper crissis he is making bigger trouble in RU. I am waiting when this old CCCP KGB disnosaur will venish. This will be first step for better life for all of us and true friednship and business partnership (helping not destroying)
friends especially in hard crissis times.
PolishFactor 2 years ago
Do you know why I think PUTIN lost his mind?
Becouse he first blackamiling, forcing and detroying economy or rejoining territiories independent countries then he is surpirsed that he had problems with friends. He is idiot especially that after such bandit economy acts
and pissing of international law he next accusing others of beeing Rusophobs. This is biggest XXI century joke ever! I pray PUTIN lost power in KREML and Medviediew became not KGB remote control true president. This is RU chance!
PolishFactor 2 years ago
Ru chance? Remember England? Most powerfull country in 18centures. They cession america. And what they have? Doggy americans? That they tell to him england do? You chance save independend Forget america and distances for him.
Sonik20062008 2 years ago
With all sympathy to Ru people - we are still blackamiled by KREML idiots. Look at RU generals ISANDERS scarying us (of coures we smile beeing NATO member) This is insane old cold war fear others style. USA invited RU to anty nuclear IRAN coalition to gave KREML chance to do something good for EU and own people to made wider defence system against hating all not muslims idiots.
Even last missle shield program was stoped but we recived ony RU/0BIalorus army manuvers " agaist WEST attack".Sad
PolishFactor 2 years ago
We can be very close friends due to we are Slav borthers but KREML old KGB school idiotis need here hate and fear to better govern RU people. What is the best thing to divert RU people opinion of inside total economy problems? Outside enemy! Bad WEST or bad USA wanted attack with NATO poor RU people. Bad ,bad USA is source of world crissis so total RU economy shit (made mainly due to KREML not wise invested in economy for last years too) is only USA foult. We heard such idiot excuses in 80s.
PolishFactor 2 years ago
KREML openly brekaing interntional laws (rejoining 1 side territories) or energy blackmailing EU (last gas commedy) is sadly to say hurt good Russia opinion. We know its mainly PUTIN work (he named as fighting of RU honor) but this is lie. He is worse RU opinion maker in world ever! PUTIN is for me biggest world ruspohobs maker too! He show that RU is not worth of trust anymore and full of post cold war thinking KGB educated idiots making openly anty WEST army trainings
against OBAMA frienship
PolishFactor 2 years ago
PUTIN need such helping hand to reapir all 20y ago mistakes. KReml today don't need tanks to make ne hegemony an shit - look at internet RU hackers war against many west institutions and look at all energy blackmails they done (last total EU problems). So if You want to give a helping hand to PUTIN KGB dreams - I have no comment... I piss on RU energy monopoly over EU KREML is prepearing to kill us by prices after few years. Gergia was 1 step to cut EU of Middle East resources (pipelines).
PolishFactor 2 years ago
PolishFactor
The Kremlin, KGB, Propagation, vodka, bears....:)
It also is propagation against Russia! What for to tell the facts - it is possible to tell simply at you in Russia propagation and you drink vodka...
PolishFactor it for a long time not so...
Andrey16rus 2 years ago
The only good thing is that we all know that many Russians have nothing to KREML crimes. RU opinion need times to think about big dilema of hard history. 1 hand Hitler close colaborations and crime Baltic countires dividing, 2 hand great pray in WWII helping all of us to avoid Hilter reality. We can't denied 600th Ru lost own life to help Poland to be free. Problem is that they couldn't gave us freedom becouse they was not free too. We need true and tell open sorry each other to find better life
PolishFactor 2 years ago
in the aspect the Russian weapons seem identical to those western, in the reality western technology is clearly superior, I make an example the Italian panzer they are endowed with reactive caresses that withstand the Russian missiles and the Italian infantry it is endowed with missile driven that the Russian caresses destroy, the thing becomes in the airplanes and in the ships more evident, however this is a well-known thing.
normannodelsud 2 years ago
In 1992 RU use the same "open on new democracy" story to force one side "Peace Keeping" mission in Kavkaz. Read haw many people died here in massacres till this time due to no control and no involving international forces or observers. Sorry but RU always use naive WEST and domocracy rules to easier brake rules and law. You can naive believe that RU are open and not babarian country. I like Obama but Russians always smile with such naive people. Soon he will understand old KGB thinking in KREML.
PolishFactor 2 years ago
And the facts: Russia very much loses in information war... What for to Ukraine to pay for gas - it is necessary to suppress simply to Russia through mass-media...
Saakashvili would kill all population of South Ossetia and all mass-media would be silent... He did not expect that Russia to dare to help South Ossetia...
New Russia is the guarantor of stability in the world! Otherwise dirty games of the USA tens countries in the plantations...
Andrey16rus 2 years ago
KREML is master of information wars. Problem is that too many easy to check lies was prepeared like 2000 numbers of dead announced 1 day of war which was very hard to control. Whats more theory that Shaka decided or made any genocides suddenly venished. We will believe PUTIN saving lifes and peace keeping action if not few problematic facts like 250.000 Georgian refuges (not Osethians) or 2-10 PK not prooved dead (houndred UN died in last misions) not excuse or allow divide any countries!
PolishFactor 2 years ago
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