I went down when it was city square, didn't and still don't agree with OM, but at least at city square it was organized and tidy with people actively doing things and debate actually happening, the mob at treasury sit around for 90% of the day and do nothing, it's a threatening atmosphere for melburnians all these unkempt hairy layabouts in various states of shirtlessness, go home.
@encomiastic we weren't claiming that was the view held by the 99%. I'm (narrator here!) not a spokeperson for them, I'm an observer. I was saying that the occupy movement itself is profit free - which it is - not that individuals within the movement believe in a profit free society. I was there when the motion to declare the Occupation anti-capitalist was voted down, so I'm aware that "profit-free" does not describe the beliefs of all the members in the group. -Jess
Apart from the "profit free" society (let's not get ahead of ourselves *smile*) and finding the skyscrapers comment a little out of place (skyscrapers are fine, but it's how they are used, no?)... this is fantastic.
You ask me to "get informed about the issues and make your own decision about where you stand". Sorry Jessica, but what issues exactly should I be researching? Our West Papuan friends have given me some ideas, but search terms like 'freedom against tyranny', 'struggling people in the outer suburbs', and 'infiltration of the system' doesn't really give me much to go on. Can you please contribute something more tangible?!
@taitcam Fair point. The aim was to let the people we interviewed to the talking, rather than to say it ourselves - we weren't making propaganda. We're showing what's going on behind the spin, and then you can choose to look into it further - talk to people, ask questions (as you're doing now).
I see the Occupy movement as demonstrating that an open-minded, sustainable and welcoming community can be created in the face of profit-driving corporations trying desperately to shut it down.
People are at the mercy of the tyrannical reign of big banks, bloated interest rates, the RBA bias and Property Developers. Private property is treated as a giant credit card with housing becoming a game of shuffle board. Major retailers function as whores for Chinese manufactured products. Politicians give themselves six figure salaries while the people are slaves to the minimum wage. The system is breaking down. In an age of information and social media, free speech has an extra dimension.
I went down when it was city square, didn't and still don't agree with OM, but at least at city square it was organized and tidy with people actively doing things and debate actually happening, the mob at treasury sit around for 90% of the day and do nothing, it's a threatening atmosphere for melburnians all these unkempt hairy layabouts in various states of shirtlessness, go home.
LibCon00 3 months ago
Profit free society?
You can't claim that 99% of the population hold this view.
encomiastic 3 months ago
@encomiastic we weren't claiming that was the view held by the 99%. I'm (narrator here!) not a spokeperson for them, I'm an observer. I was saying that the occupy movement itself is profit free - which it is - not that individuals within the movement believe in a profit free society. I was there when the motion to declare the Occupation anti-capitalist was voted down, so I'm aware that "profit-free" does not describe the beliefs of all the members in the group. -Jess
mrjjaykay 3 months ago
Apart from the "profit free" society (let's not get ahead of ourselves *smile*) and finding the skyscrapers comment a little out of place (skyscrapers are fine, but it's how they are used, no?)... this is fantastic.
CottusCuhteena 3 months ago
You ask me to "get informed about the issues and make your own decision about where you stand". Sorry Jessica, but what issues exactly should I be researching? Our West Papuan friends have given me some ideas, but search terms like 'freedom against tyranny', 'struggling people in the outer suburbs', and 'infiltration of the system' doesn't really give me much to go on. Can you please contribute something more tangible?!
taitcam 3 months ago
@taitcam Fair point. The aim was to let the people we interviewed to the talking, rather than to say it ourselves - we weren't making propaganda. We're showing what's going on behind the spin, and then you can choose to look into it further - talk to people, ask questions (as you're doing now).
I see the Occupy movement as demonstrating that an open-minded, sustainable and welcoming community can be created in the face of profit-driving corporations trying desperately to shut it down.
conduitmedia 3 months ago
People are at the mercy of the tyrannical reign of big banks, bloated interest rates, the RBA bias and Property Developers. Private property is treated as a giant credit card with housing becoming a game of shuffle board. Major retailers function as whores for Chinese manufactured products. Politicians give themselves six figure salaries while the people are slaves to the minimum wage. The system is breaking down. In an age of information and social media, free speech has an extra dimension.
kashmart 3 months ago