Produce the Note - Fighting Foreclosure - CNN

[capecoralrealestate1]

looks like lots of notes are missing? how is this possible?

[darkwinglance]

i know there is a law out there, i dont remember it but if you attempt to pay a bill and they refuse you must offer it again and if they refuse it twice all you need to do is say thanks for paying the bill. because this is a law i remember about paying a credit card or other bills so i wonder if this would be the same for a morgage.

[ANYSIA000]

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[2502andrew]

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[Tubeusercomm]

Katherine Porter states that Wrongful foreclosure is when the house is

foreclosed on and there is no default.

Nearly all securitized loans are current.

The obligation is not in default because the Securitization Trustee and the investors have received all payments.

The servicers and securitization trustees are required and obligated to make the payments whether or not they receive the payment from the homeowner.

[seriouslycurious1]

@Tubeusercomm GET A TILA AUDIT a lot of the loans do not meet RESPA laws, seriously, they wont stand up in court

[Tubeusercomm]

Must plead the absence of payment default. -

September 30, 2010, MDL court

"Borrowers who are unable to allege that they were timely paying their obligations will not be able to pursue affirmative claims for wrongful non-judicial foreclosure based upon “splitting the note” theories or other challenges to MERS’ status as mortgagee."

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Also you can have no wrongful foreclosure claim before foreclosure. Foreclosure is a matter of private contract in non-judicial States.

[evilfishtank00]

the banks go for the throat any chance they get, in this one instance the tables have turned but as soon as its the homeowner going in for the kill we get these idiots pointing out that this is not fair/cheating, ya no shit it is but the banks cheat all the time and no one holds them accountable, as they state "its just business", so go for the kill homeowners, ride the loophole to a free house if you can & do it guilt free after all its just business.

[Harmony7771]

@evilfishtank00 I have paid for this house for 12 years tried to deal with bank they refused after taking bail out money. this native american is really done with the crap they are trying to take my land again As a native I have sacrificed enough for the greed of the midas

[TheNewMusicNetwork]

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[SexSteakSoda]

I'm tired of people blaming the banks for foreclosures. Guess what, no one is forcing you to borrow from the banks. If you can't afford to buy, then you need to rent. Plain and simple. No one should feel sorry for you getting kicked out of your homes because they're not YOUR homes to begin with. They were the banks. It's not your home until you pay off the loan and you're given the deed/title for the property. Tough shit. Back to the apartments you go!

[srkh28]

printing money and losing deeds. The only instruments in america's dodgy finance industry are your bankers. There all tools. When will you people push the button and flush them?

[bjornsiborgsi]

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[TheNewMusicNetwork]

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[sean1973x2009]

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[TheNewMusicNetwork]

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[SteelMartini]

The last time they did this they foreclosed on the family farms, the banks owned the land and farms, congress passsed a law forbidding banks from profiteering on foreclosures. And eighty years later they are at it again making money on both ends of taking peoples property.

[conworldus]

People who default on their debt obligations are the cancer cells of the economy. Foreclosure is the medicine that kills the cancer cells and replaces them with healthy ones (people who are responsible). When cancer cells succeed in fighting for their place, it is the good cells that suffer. I have bought enough foreclosed homes and heard enough stories and insofar every single foreclosue in my book was a result of irresponsibility.

[PsyopsExposer]

@conworldus So who do represent? The criminal banks, criminal government or criminals on wall street. It was a great sting. Yes you are right about one thing - regular people need to be aware that they are targeted by predators day and day out. Who can you trust these days? Not the government, not banks, not wall street, etc etc etc. Don't blame the addict - blame the drug pusher.

[conworldus]

The truth is that the average "little people" spent more than they could. Yes the banks sliced up the debts to package them nicely, but it sold mostly CDS and when that went skyrocket, the banks lost money, lots of it. What makes you think that it is okay to take up a loan and not pay debt and call yourself a "normal citizen"?

[pherronii]

why should the bank take the payment, when they can make so much more money stealing your equity? there is no incentive for them to work with borrowers. They are worse than the sleaziest used car saleman you ever met. These banks are crime syndicates.

[conworldus]

@pherronii

This is cheating. Just because the bank lost the note doesn't mean you get to walk free. It is like saying if you kill someone and the prosecutor loses the evidence, you are innocent.

[pherronii]

@conworldus The bank did'nt lose the note, they sold it for full value to investors. At most they may have been servicing the loan. They have no legal standing, They securitized these notes and sold them to pension funds. There are no notes to perfect chain of title, this is a critical issue that puts ALL citizens property rights at risk. Perhaps you have not researched this issue deeply enough to understand the full scope of rampant fraud that has taken place throughout the system.

[pherronii]

@conworldus Banks ran out of good borrowers to sell mortgages, and they were preselling the MBS's faster than they could sign new mortgages, so they started approving bad loans, bundle the bad loans up, get rating agencies to give them AAA rating, sell them to maybe your pension fund, then turned around and bet against them knowing they would fail, making money on them twice. Then we bailed them out, so they got paid a 3rd time, now they want the houses too. got it?

I hope they lose.

[pherronii]

@conworldus and they will lose, cuz guess what, now the pension funds are starting to sue. Turns out that if you can prove someone sold you crap, and told you it was gold, you can make them buy it back. at least that will be the case here, because its in the contract between the bank and the investors. Freddie and fannie will be suing too, they are holding tons of these loans from all the big banks. This thing is going to go off like Krackatoa

[conworldus]

@pherronii The bottomline is the ones who are losing the house are the ones that are not paying. The bank did not hold a gun to their heads to make them take out the mortgage. They did it because of greed and irresponsability. Foreclosure is the only recourse. As for that packaging of securities, banks were the biggest losers. They needed the bailout because they lost money, not because they made money.

[pherronii]

@conworldus I see your not interested in truth, maybe you are one of those who profitted rom this fraud. I knew quite a few punks selling this crap making 30K per month, if thats you, then it explains your attitude. I would think any normal citizen might have some concerns regarding the enforcement of laws in this nation, and not just one sided laws designed to protect the criminal oligarchy that rules in this hell called america. your time is expired, go back to sleep

[Salisbury76]

@conworldus I have zero sympathy for banks - they got bailed out w/ tax payer money, then turned around and sat on it. If politicians are going to bail out banks, they can damn well bail out people too and enact legislation to put a freeze on these foreclosures if people can prove they are looking for work. If you feel it's okay for banks to foreclose on homes, then you should also believe we should have let the banks burn when THEY were irresponsible.

[muchambrosia]

@conworldus you are such a simple minded idiot, jaja

[HollyTNUSA]

I hate CNN

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[mustangersalie]

any one have sucess with original loan with washington mutual & now with chase ?

[WulfBand]

Get the bank to PROVE where the funds came from and I think you'll find out that the money actually came from your Birth Certificate Trust Fund account. Therefor you home is already paid for and they don't want you to know this. You actually end up paying the bank back 100% plus interest on money you've already paid off the home with.

[garden333]

@WulfBand soooo verrrry true. If you end up in court over this the Bankers never never show up......they send the lawyers......but they can not answer the banking questions, they are lawyers not bankers. One must insist on asking questions only to the bankers.  They will not show up in court because if they did they would be exposed...to the truth.

[moneybelt22]

@garden333  obama owns your house we'll, kiss him

[unytcommsys]

@garden333 reminds me of my landlords LOL. still haven't' sent me to court.

[darthcom1]

@WulfBand under UCC you can actually sue them for triple damages for the bullshit they pull. people need to acquire a better understanding of how banks operate before they decide to do business with them

a unilateral contract lacks all of the lawful requirements of a REAL contract. so its not enforceable. never assume just because you signed something that its valid

[TheNewMusicNetwork]

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[dontloseyourhouse]

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[CindyandGaryand1]

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[MoeBedard]

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[bakeingfoo22]

they dont tell you about this shit cuz they want your money duh

[ghostlaw1980]

R we only capable of passing greed laws at this point. I want a mortgage that is adjustable. Adjustable to fair market value. My grandfather took out a loan 50 years ago to start a business. They gave him ten years to repay it. He repaid it in one year. The next year he bought a house free and clear. To all the BMW driving pinto owners, your getting what you bought. Insecurity. I want what I pay for.

[immafreemann]

All foreclosures are based on Fraud. The bank didnt loan you any money. The promissory note is a check. They deposited it into your escrow account, funded the account and paid the seller with the 'money' they created from thin air but they didn't give you a deposit slip showing the deposit. There are plenty of sites to explain this but this one won't let me put a Url up so search it out.

[NeedFinancialHelp]

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[AceOfHeart2012]

Hey I did that. I was one of the pioneers in the "produce the note" technology here in La Crosse Wisconsin and the judge, Dale Passell (aka bench pirate reptilian Saturn worshipping lawyer in a black dress) kept saying: "Duly noted." Crook! I didn't abandon my home. I was forcibly extracted on June 28, 2007 when a 30 man SWAT team from the local Gestap, I mean, Sheriff's Department broke in and hauled me out in shackles. Anyone know how to get one's house back after it's been seized?

[hydroxygenman]

Look up right of redemption times for your state.

[hydroxygenman]

For AceofHearts2012 Search for April Charney, the right of redemption is statutory in all states.

[cmptrwhiz]

What happens when you are in court, propose this to the judge and she still rules in favor of the bank? I was told in court that asking them to produce a note was not enough to stop her from lifting the automatic stay.

Advise...

[leonvoltaire]

You the defense that they illegally monetized the note:

Bank b{wells fargo}took over the loan from bank a{any smaller loan co.} Bank b sells the note{monetized the note}to investors{ bank c:bank of china, deutsche bank etc}.

Now the legal question, who owns the note?

Wells Fargo is only loan servicing co. now and if they foreclosure on the note, the real owner of the Security Instrument can come after you in 2 or 3 more years.

Also, look the Kansas Supreme Court Case, back in 09, peace!

[istopfore]

It is sad what is happening to home prices and income levels.

[jackiebaron]

I'd REALLY love to know how many people who screamed "get a job" or "it's your fault" or some other winning little blurb are now unloading their houses as the armed guards look on. Next market to collapse is commercial real estate...and then hotels. Ladies and gentlemen as a flaming liberal who advised American dreamers to dump their homes in 2006...and I was called a tree-hugging Euro-faggot....I have made almost 7 million dollars watching your markets collapse. Can't you guys read?

[nidhogge]

Granted, but it was flaming liberal concepts such as a central bank, regulations, and fiat currency that got us into this mess to begin with. Then again, I suppose it's not very liberal, as the idea of freedom and sound money was a liberal concept in 1776.

[randy39871]

Free help is available for those in foreclosure at NeedFinancialHelp (dot) org , non profit. I know this site helped a friend of mine..

[nadeichman]

Just think about it. If a private person lent someone money and the borrower did not pay, could the private person take the borrower to court and win the judgement without the paperwork? of course not!

Then why should a bank be any different?

I highly recommend fighting your case so you can negotiate a better interest rate for yourself on your mortgage to save your home. The banks are getting their money free from us anyway.

[nidhogge]

Because the bank lends credit, not money, and this is illegal and upheld by NUMEROUS court cases. You don't have to pay back a dime on a mortgage or loan, but you DO need to know the law, and how to use it.

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[VidsbyEM]

That's what happened to me, I sent them a letter I got from an ebook and I'm still in my home now, a year later! Fight back america! You can get a better deal or your house for FREE!

[canosgmk]

i wonder if I can pin my student loans on this. They the lost the original signed agreement.

[criticalmindseed]

the system needs to be changed or turned upside down. We will never break free until we stand up and stop this fiat world money system.

[antiforeclosurearmy]

Imagine if did RUNS on the banks? We could pressure them to back off from foreclosures and evictions. Watch my video.

[JRTJRTJRT]

Look up "Credit River Decision" where a judge declared that mortagage banks provide no CONSIDERATION for their loans and thus create illegitimate debt. That judge was murdered soon after. Mortgage banks work just like the Federal Reserve - printing money out of thin air with no CONSIDERATION. JFK was murdered for opposing the Federal Reserve (the Rothschilds).

[scata99]

Adults are like children these days. They signed the contract, they lagged behind on their payments, they agreed to the condition, yet when they fail to commit their end of the bargain they kick and scream and do anything to get out of it.

[thomasw78]

Yeah but the bank also broke their end of the contract when they sold the note to some hedge fund.

In fact the hedge fund actually gave the homeowner a gift of a free house. So none of these people should even be paying their mortgage.

[hoghead89]

Your like a hypnotized zombie that will believe anything that sounds reasonable. The banks get paid on these things 4 or 5 times. The banks have committed so much fraud that they have just about crashed the world economy. You prove to me that the bank ever provided lawful consideration at the closing table. Your a sucker, and you should be bankrupted by someone for your stupidity and naivety.

[antiforeclosurearmy]

We can totally fight back against these banks. We can do 'runs' on the bank in order to take away their power to evict. If we form groups of neighborhood protection groups, we could fight back. Watch my video on the idea, please.

[partylwc]

scata99, the point is the banks are unorganized... so whos fault is it really? The banks are greedy crooks, the little guy gets assraped, why not help the little guy out? Thats what greg hunter is doing. Obviously CNN isn't bought out by banks or they wouldnt post this on here.

[PreCurSeD]

"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation then by deflation, the banks and the corporations will grow up around them, will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs." - Thomas Jefferson

Its the American peoples fault for not standing up to their GOV

FOOLS

[partylwc]

People will not respond when they are completely brainwashed with entertainment of some sort + they have to keep supplying enough money to survive to. These people you speak about are product of a system. Without this system you wouldn't see so many of them. So its ironic people want them to stand up to their government. Sure government sucks in a lot of ways, but without big government and big corporations you probably would not have had all these dumb people. You cant change them.

[PreCurSeD]

Some are just too far gone and cant change. but a person of a good mind may prove otherwise.

[militantrebell]

the banks are getting bailed out with my taxes but yet they want to throw me out on the street fuck that! i am bearing arms you have to take my dead body out of my home!

[immafreemann]

Everyone should be responsible but how about the other side of it. THe bankers manipulate the money supply and cause depressions to take all the wealth created by labor. The Federal Reserve is owned by private individuals (mostly european), creates money unconstitutionally (see art.1,sec.8,10) and loans it at interest to the Gov. Watch "Freedom to Fascism", "MoneyMasters", and "Zeitgiest-the addendum". Look up the Credit River Decision-Judge Mahoney (Federal Reserve Notes are Illegal

[trademan1]

bravo!!!!! screw the banks...if they cannot keep track of their own records take 'em to court.

[antiforeclosurearmy]

Why not 'run' on these banks in order to deter them from evicting people? If people were organized into groups, they could turn the table on the banks. Please watch my video on the idea. Thanks.

[Jerrybowyer]

I go to my friend and say i have an investment idea, i need to borrow 1000$.He says ok! I promise to pay him back. I invest my money into whatever and it doesnt work out, I lose! I go to my friend and say sorry, I bought something thinking it was going up, but it didnt, so I gave up.Here is whats left if anything at all. How pissed would you be if you were the friend who lent 1000$?

[dstark76]

It is only bull if someone is just trying to live there for free. If you are trying to reinstate and make payments, it is a great tool for homeowners to use. Banks are not always fair when handling foreclosures

[beanieboy007]

I wonder if there was a follow up report on that lady after her court date.

[MiahLFC]

ja3182 - I agree.........

[ja3182]

This is some bull. This is why we as a nation are having these problems. What if we all stop paying our bills. These are people who where too dumb to read the fine print, tried to get over, living above their means, or just dont care what their selfishness is doing to the rest of the country and are glad we have a president who thinks you dont have to take responabilty for their action but cause the Government i.e. the honest tax paying people, will pay.

[ThinkTaylor]

I feel you.....however,

Have you discovered yet that when the you sign this "note" it CREATES the money the bank uses to buy that home. It is your promissary note that allows the bank to create more money.

Don't take my word, look into this. So, if they are using magic to create money and charge you, then to hell with them anyway.

[antiforeclosurearmy]

We could magically destroy money too, if we wanted to. The banks have a critical weakness, they are afraid of 'runs' on their banking system. If we protested them this way, who knows what we could accomplish. Watch my video fto see the idea.

[ANYSIA000]

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[nopurposeforaname]

are you kidding?! you guys know that you took the loan and that you need to pay it. you are the crook trying to get out of it. where is this nations ethics? NATIONALIZE THE BANKS!??! thats socialism. granted most people in the united states believe that socialism is better than capitalism but its not! go read your constitution and be an honest citizen

[tonmagicwon]

EAT SHIT AND LOVE IT SHMUCK

[heres22]

yeah!!!!!

[JeffSweigard]

Excellent!

[asefati]

good stuff...screw the banks.

The solution is to nationalize the banking industry!

[KingCast65]

@asefati

Watch this video from last week at KingCast65 -- Mortgage Movies Journal

NH US Trustee Protects Florida's David Stern Pals at Harmon Law Office on B 10 foreclosure.

I was a licensed Title Insurance Producer in NH and have practiced Civil Rights Law for the government and on my own. Now I point the camera at the liars.

[NewarkNYUDCGirl]

I love this.

[thejocker14]

I asked the bank for a pay off amount, and after four weeks what I got is that they sold my loan and added more fees

[owensaruba]

The added fees are like IRS penalties, intimidation! See it through!

[votefraudnet]

I say the heck with the banks and stop paying your mortgage if they cannot produce the note. The banks have been stealing from the American people ever since the Federal Reserve Act of 1913. It's about time they get some of their own medicine back! Why don't you all get upset with the banks stealing? Why do you always pick on those who have been stolen from? Because you are programed to think that way...break free from your sheep mentality!

[mmacisso]

right on bro

[NewarkNYUDCGirl]

that move is gangsta. I have put it on my Facebook links.  I wish I can do the same with he Credit Card companies.

[chandralaw]

you can! If the debt has been sold off to third parties for collection!!

[lexluthor33]

Its actually much deeper than CNN is letting on, the reason the lender can't produce the note is because the lender modified it after both parties signed it. If the produced it, it would provide a case of fraud against the banks. The reason the note is modified after signing is because it must be entered into the banks books as an asset and liability. This double book keeping entry violates GAAP and FASB rules but most banks do it. If the banks say the docs are lost than you know what happened.

[SRATPB]

Is she a citizen?....................

[Satcatcher]

It doesn't matter' she signed a contract that is in dispute by the bank , the bank wants the home and must sue to get it. The burden of proof is on the bank and the banks cannot prove the contract.

[CNN911Fakes]

Take the free ride. If they haven't got the note, they haven't got a mortgage.

[Bmorpheus]

bueno en este caso esta persona esta simplemente pelando sus derechos los cuales fueron violados por los lenders al momento de no dar la informacion correcta a tiempo. Si ellos cometieron el erros ahora deben pabar simple como eso

[paynemike]

Such ignorance never ceases to piss me off! Did any of you "commenters" even graduate from middle school? The Clearwater (FL) homeowner MUST fight this egregious attempt by WAMU to foreclose. The US legal system demands the Lender produce the NOTE and prove it has a right to foreclose. What is difficult for you to understand? This is not about "theft" or paying vs not paying.... This is about protecting the LETTER of the law, not circumventing the law. These people are NOT deadbeats!

[raanderson77]

Wachovia, not WAMU smart guy

[paynemike]

Wachovia, WAMU, Countrywide, Wells Fargo, Nationstar Mortgage, Citi, Chase....I don't care.

Get the point of all this -- mortgage lenders must PROVE they own the debt and can bring a foreclosure suit.

You're right, I am a smart guy! Please contribute toward the discussion. Finding typos or grammatical errors is juvenile.

It frickin' doesn't matter who the lender is...all right?

[raanderson77]

Thank you for re-explaining what the video above did sufficiently. Calling everyone ignorant and questioning their level of education is equally juvenile. Maybe when you are trying to "contribute," you shouldn't insult everyone on the forums intelligence with the first sentence. Keep fighting the good fight on You Tube bro!

[paynemike]

You're right, Ryan. My apologies.

[electrostatic1]

Hey all you haters, you might want to listen to what she's saying... She wants to Pay Off The Mortgage and They Won't Let Her, and it's looking as if they sold the note and either A. Don't actually know who owns it anymore... OR B. Won't tell her. And just for asking they added thousands of dollars in fees to her balance. This is not a one sided issue.

P.S. I do not condone theft either, but that goes both ways in situations like this. Extortion for asking who owns the house is theft too.

[Uppity33]

If you don't pay then they don't play mother fucker! What, you think you can get something for nothing? Thats' theft. You don't pay you don't get the house you piss ant!

[BoogieWithStew]

So these "owner" clowns are trying to not pay the mortgage agreement they signed.

Who pays for this: everyone else in the form of higher interest rates.

Let the banks foreclose on these deadbeats.

[whitebranch]

Banks and financial institutions bundled these mortgages and sold and resold them to reduce the risk they took on to practically zilch. They wanted to take all the profit, and now they want the public purse, through the federal government,to absorb all the risk. The Vatican was right to include a new sin - that of obscene wealth - amongst the new list of deadly sins.

[leonvoltaire]

"The Vatican was right to include a new sin - that of obscene wealth - amongst the new list of deadly sins"

That is odd, the Vatican owns all these banks, go figure!

[ankhenaten2]

what a dumb women she is going to get raped financially

[thodal2000]

google credit river money decision