The meaning of life is an opinion and nothing more. Life is unfair and always will be until the one thing is destroyed yet never will be. It is something you need yet hate. Money.
As of now, the meaning of life is an absolute blank; this truth determined by the universe itself, & cannot be changed. Nothing that exists, including YOU, has any purpose whatsoever. Everything JUST IS by natural powers. The meaning you give yourself (if you do that is), no matter how empathic or apathetic it is,is completely contrived & reality itself does not move towards that end. This is the existance you are forced to live within without your consent.
2. You must prove that he cares if you're gay enough to punish you for it
3. You must prove to me how that isn't completely fucked in the head considering he's the one who made them and asking them to deny their sexuality is unessisary, and therefor cruel, and unworthy of praise
Hitchens: "I really have no purpose in life. Which, if I admit I would look very stupid. Therefore let me say a corny joke or two so these dimwits forget the question."
@zxcvbnm103 Why do you suggest that he had no purpose? Aside from the pleasures he took himself, he has inspired and liberated countless others, irreligious and otherwise. He changed my entire life - he helped me cast off the fear and become more moral, find more happiness and live with greater dignity. Can you hold a candle to that?
For all those who believe that homosexuality is a "choice", let me ask you...when did YOU "decide" to be heterosexual? That's right, when did you consciously decide to be straight?
The answer is, you didn't, any more than gay people "choose" to be gay. So stop already with this nonsense about how it's a "lifestyle choice".
@mikefromwa Your argument is flawed. Scientifically we are a binary gendered species who reproduces sexually. Using a purely scientific argument, heterosexuality is the result of millions of years of evolution enabling species to survive. There is no apparent benefit for homosexuality.
I don't personally know where to side in the argument. I don't think anyone ever truly decides "I think I'd like a penis up my butt". However I don't think anyone is born gay either. Time will tell.
But you stated it's NOT a decision. Stay consistent
"obvious that you're mistaken"
If I am mistaken, then I trust science will provide conclusive proof. Until then it remains what it has always been, mere conjecture
Let me help you. It's entirely possible for homosexuality to be developed environmentally and naturally after the point of birth. There's far more evidence of that than anything genetic.
You're confusing sex and orientation. Some people may choose to engage in various sexual activities without it being their primary orientation. Sex is what you DO, orientation is what you ARE.
"It's entirely possible for homosexuality to be developed environmentally and naturally after the point of birth"
Sure, it's possible. So what?
"There's far more evidence of that than anything genetic"
@mikefromwa I think he said it best in another clip. "Homosexuality is not just a form of sex. It's a form of love and it deserves our respect for that reason"
@Usernamenottaken2k: Yes, that was very well said, and as good a way to put it as I've heard. Someday people won't care about who loves who, and the pointless stigma of being gay will be a shameful memory, similar to the way slavery is regarded today. The mindless hatred of homosexuality is one of religion's worst side-effects.
@mikefromwa i don't think it's a choice, but i certainly don't think it's gene-related. i could bring a baby up to become gay, just as i could bring one up to becmome straight.
@JoshMac92: "but i certainly don't think it's gene-related"
Then why do a lot of different animals exhibit homosexual behavior? You're not saying that these animals (penguins, deer, dogs, etc just to name a few) are making a deliberate lifestyle choice are you? How do you explain that?
"i could bring a baby up to become gay, just as i could bring one up to becmome straight"
@mikefromwa first of all, thanks for not kicking off or anything and giving and actually giving an intelligent answer. i guess we'll not actually know these answers for the time being.
@JoshMac92: For some it may be a choice, but for the vast majority it's an innate part of who they are, just as with heterosexual people. To make this a littler clearer, did you consciously decide at some point to be straight? Probably not. We like what we like, whether it's food or music or sex. We don't normally make a deliberate decision to prefer rock over classical or strawberry over vanilla. The same goes for our sexuality, people don't usually get to pick their orientation.
Please visit my channel for the unpopular truth about homosexuality.
A person does not need hatred or any kind of phobia in order to acknowledge important differences between heterosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption and homosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption. Even non-religious people know this.
Homosexual activists, with support from the media, have succeeded at framing themselves as noble victims; it's an effective way to push a social agenda.
@lightandbeautiful: "Please visit my channel for the unpopular truth about homosexuality."
No, I won't visit your channel to perpetuate hate against a whole class of people. People like you are what's wrong with the world. What's the matter- isn't there enough hate in this world for you already?
There is a new book which reveals secrets about what God and Satan really are, not the bullshit given to the public.
'God Stopping A Nuclear War'
What does it explain?
Why Hitler, German dislike of Jews, why Jews head into banking, media, Hollywood, Wall Street. Why black crime, why Uk looting, what a soul is - alive information.
God - left brain group mind - verbal favoring Jews.
Satan - right brain group mind - spatial - Germans.
@mikeymensa "Why Hitler, German dislike of Jews" [sic]
Hitler and the Germans (at the time of WW2) had a deep seated hatred for Jews because the German propaganda machine blamed the Jews for Germany's loss in WW1. there were many short films made that painted Jews in a bad light. if you want a book to read to explain this more, i'd recommend the Book called Auschwitz, that accompanied the BBC TV show. but it is a very grim read.
You'll notice the man in the blue shirt to the right of the stage in the front row, from the other video's and a question he asked Hitchens, I can see he's one of these arrogant air heads who thinks he's always right, even when he knows he's wrong. He doesn't clap or smile or laugh at anything Hitchens says which I find completely absurd, Hitchens' is funny regardless if you agree with his views or not, at least I think so. Some people are just miserable all their lives, and his god made him so.
the purpose of my life, is to stay up all night, go to work the next day tired, try and pick-up women after work, then repeat. Oh yeah, and to smoke a cig after this comment.
Hitchen's was stumped so had to issue some embarrassing self truths. His purpose in life, as stated by him: Hedonistic pleasure-reduced to self satisfaction from comparing his station in life to that of those less fortunate (could that be gratefulness??) & sex. The reason he was stumped is because if there is no Gd, no designer, then there is no "purpose". Anything designed, is designed for a purpose. Design implies intent. Anything brought about by happenstance has no inherent purpose.
I don't need an all powerful dictator in the sky to determine the meaning of my life. I'm perfectly capable of finding meaning and purpose in life for myself
@TheHomelessCripple You should use your own words rather than paraphrase Hitchens. You can only assign purpose to your life if there is no Designer. If there is no Designer, then your life has no inherent purpose, other than the subjective desires you may wish to fulfill. Only something is "designed" is designed with inherent intent of the Designer. Happenstance has no inherent intent behind the outcome.
@mrtruthforever those are my own words. I've said this long before I knew who Hitchens was, and I have yet to hear him say anything on those line, although I don't doubt at some point he probably has.
Implying a "designer" without evidence for its existance is meaningless. The "argument" (it can hardly be an that) from design is an argument from ignorance. If u say the designer is the abrahamic god, I can just as equally refute you claim by saying the designer is Gaia, Woden, Ra, Krishna, etc
@TheHomelessCripple The argument of design is from ignorance? You should study the probabilities of randomness pertaining to the formation of enzymes, bacteria, (let alone multicellular specialized life forms), then we'll discuss who's ignorant. Comparing a monotheistic notion of a force beyond the constraints of matter (& therefore time) to logically disproven polytheistic notions Woden, Ra, Gaia, etc. is pure stupidity.
Randomness is a poor argument. Just because an act or state is infinitely improbable, does not make that state infinitely impossible. The probability of me sitting at that computer is infinitely improbable, but guess what? I am. Are my actions defying of nature?
If you're implying a deterministic god put me in my chair, I ask you for objective evidence in support of your fairy-tale tyrant
Supernatural beings can never be disproven. You should learn a thing or two about skepticism
@TheHomelessCripple Had the primordial earth fallen into a slighly tighter orbit around the sun, our planet would have incinerated millions of years ago. Had it fallen into a slightly wider orbit, our planet would have escaped into frozeness. If the rate of the universe's expansion 1 second after the Big Ban had been smaller by even 1part in a Hundred Thousand Million Million,the universe would have recollapsed before reaching it present size (Hawkings). Naah, No precision here
@mrtruthforever You need to learn the anthropic principle, and stop believing the bullshit "probability of xxx" arguments your preacher (or crap "authority figure" of choice) has sold you on. You may think they sound logical, but all they do is make you look like a bigger and bigger dumbass for believing them.
@azdgariarada What a moron you are. All the facts quoted were taken from physicists & Nobel laureats (not preachers; dickhead). There are many more if you like. But no need to overkill you. Amazing how drawing conclusions from science & statistics regarding the plausibility of design to the universe is considered "belief", but believing in AetheISM, a belief which is innately unprovable (since you will never be able to prove Gd doesn't exist) is considered "logical". You are the obvious fanatic.
@mrtruthforever Awww, you're cute when you're quote mining and twisting the words of scientists to mean the opposite of what they've actually said. Almost as cute as when you just completely fail to grasp the point they're making and how it is completely opposed to your warped view.
But then again, what more should one expect from someone who honestly believes Atheism is a "belief" when it is in fact, the REJECTION of belief. You might try the dictionary next time instead of the bible. ;-)
@azdgariarada "-ism" as a suffix connotes belief. Aetheism must be rendered as a belief, because even the most ardent aetheists acknowledge that you can never prove that something (let alone Gd), doesn't exist. I have provided you quotes & statistics. You provide nothing, except vulgarity. You choose to ignore the improbability of randomness with regard to physics, biology, cosmology, etc. Fine. You draw your conclusions, but you should respect those who draw different conclusions.
I would have removed that ad hominem attack too. Wouldn't want anybody to know what you had to resort to in order to make yourself feel better about failing so miserably at life. ;-)
@azdgariarada Your intelligence is reflected by your Channel favorites: animated rap and suvivalist lunatics preparing for economic collapse by recommending that people store up on livestock, etc. And of course, you get your jollies by watching overweight girls swing from a rope. Are you 29 or 9?
@TheHomelessCripple If I understand you correctly, since you can't explain ex-nihlosim, nor the precision of the formation of the universe, nor the fact that an expanding universe attests to the creation of time & matter, you prefer to dismiss the possibility of a non-physical plane & prefer a "belief" that Gd categorically does not exist (something which is inherently unprovable). Congratulations moron, you offer nothing to substantiate your position other than closemindedness.
@mrtruthforever yes, it is logically impossible to disprove the existance of any object. At least that's something we agree on. So now, you understand why until you PROVE you're hypothesised magical deity with empirical, independantly verifiable evidence that i will not accept you premis
Without evidence for your position, I can quite equally and validly assert that a magical pumpkin-turtle hybrid from the 14th dimensions with 27 arms and 3 butts created the universe
@TheHomelessCripple Sure, sure. theoretically, given an infinity,anything is possible.If you were walking thru a forest, found a Rolex watch in the earth,would you assume "well given billions of years anything could happen" or would you assume someone lost it. If you were to conclude that a Rolex watch is too complicated to be explained by chance, how is it you feel comfortable attributing randomness biological processes(infinitely more complicated).Answer: Duplicity requires no accountability
@TheHomelessCripple Randomness a poor argument: Only to the closeminded person.Yale University's L.M. Krauss has compared the odds of the universe expanding at PRECISELY the right rate to "the odds of someone guessing exactly how many atoms are in the sun" (Scientific American).
@TheHomelessCripple The odds of randomly assembling a bacterium from all the right enzymes (about 2,000 different) is 1 in 10^39,950. Nobel laureate Hoyle: the odds could not be faced even if the whole universe consisted of organic soup.
@TheHomelessCripple As far as people, there are 25,000 operative enzymes (in contrast to a bacterium's 2,000). The probability of 25,000 enzymes forming spontaneously ONCE in a billion years is about 1 in 10^599,930. Not to mention assembling into cells, nucleotides into a strip of DNA, differentiated organs. I guess it's easier for a devout aetheist to BELIEVE in something that can never be proven (i.e., that Gd doesn't exist), than acknowledging the improbability of randomness.
@mrtruthforever have you ever watched a random mutation program? do you even understand micro/macro evolution? what is your major malfunction private pyle?!
@maciverandy Doesn't random mutagenesis typically begin with cloning the gene encoding receptor prior to introducing mutations to the gene sequence? What does that have to do with explaining ex nihlo creation of matter?
@mrtruthforever ex-nihlo creation of matter? are you serious?! so where did god come from? isn't your creationist, "out of nothing" bullshit just as applicable to a god? i mean who created god? do you actually deny that life evolves because if you do you are hopeless.
@maciverandy An expanding universe (the consensus in physics today) attests to a point at which matter & time began.Oscillating & static theories have long been debunked. So if there is a point at which matter was created, where did it come from? If you limit yourself to only a physical plane of existence, you are in a circular loop, especially given that matter has definite constraints (laws), which is also indicative of "design".
@mrtruthforever Congratulations, you've officially demonstrated that the Universe and Earth facilitate life, is this contrary to your intended objective? Looking at a cosmological constant and the innumerable variables involved in determining the habitability of Earth and therefore concluding that those constants and variables were conjured by a God is not only an argument from ignorance, but a non sequitur as well. Your argument is presumably based on nothing more than logic accompanied (cont)
@buttface112211 thank you so much. It's reassuring to know at least one other person realizes "random chance" is a historically epic fail of an argument for magical space pixies
@TheHomelessCripple Lol, seems like nobody ever replies when I eviscerate their entire argument. Rather unfortunate. However, I have noticed that despite prevalent refutations of batshit crazy fallacious arguments, they ignore them and repeat them in other videos.
@buttface112211 What role does your God play in this universe? If it's creation of this universe, then isn't his job over? Or does he still affect us today; occasionally answering prayers? If he doesn't affect our world presently, is he still a God? or a force of creation. Would that force of creation be any different than the big bang? Is a conscious being (like ourselves) required to start the universe? How was he created?
@maciverandy Yale University's L.M. Krauss has compared the odds of the universe expanding at PRECISELY the right rate to "the odds of someone guessing exactly how many atoms are in the sun" (Scientific American). Yep, no inference of "design" here, moron.
@mrtruthforever by some scientific observations and discoveries within cosmology and physics, but can you apply logic to something that is so counterintuitive? Afterall, we didn't evolve to intuitively grasp the very large, very small, vast time spans, short time spans, and many other aspects of nature. However, the Big Bang marked the beginning of perceivable nature, and logic even fails within nature. So why attempt to apply to logic to the Big Bang?
@maciverandy Had the primordial earth fallen into a slighly tighter orbit around the sun, our planet would have incinerated millions of years ago. Had it fallen into a slightly wider orbit, our planet would have escaped into frozeness. If the rate of the universe's expansion 1 second after the Big Bang had been smaller by even 1part in a Hundred Thousand Million Million,the universe would have recollapsed before reaching it present size (Hawkings). Naah, No precision here moron.
@mrtruthforever so we just showed up here with the dinosaurs 6000 yers ago? who made god?! who made god?! WHO MADE GOD?! do you understand that there are more solar systems than grains of salt on beaches of the world? just because we are alive here on earth doesn't make us super-special...people win the powerball lottery and that seems unlikely, but it happens. so you actually believe the bible word for word? how old do you think the planet is? or are all your ideas just ex-nihlo? retard!!!
@mrtruthforever Yeah the universe isn't accomodated for life we adapted to it. This universe is hostile to life it's nowhere fine tuned for it. Cite your sources and give evidence of intellegent design all you are doing right now is using the arguement from ignorance.
@mrtruthforever Yeah the universe isn't accomodated for life we adapted to it. This universe is hostile to life it's nowhere fine tuned for it. Give some a link for those "Odds" from a scientific paper. Cite your sources and give evidence of intellegent design all you are doing right now is using the arguement from ignorance.
There is no meaning. That is to say, there is no singular definition of why we are here. It's up to each individual to discover their purpose in life and forge their own path.
And don't let anyone tell you otherwise (I'm looking at you, religion).
"what is the purpose of life?" - an inappropriate question... the purpose of a toaster is to toast, the purpose of a pen is to write.. what is the purpose of a tree? what is the purpose of grass? inanimate objects developed by people to serve as tools have purposes, however living things have really only one conceivable purpose which is to reproduce, the fact that we a conscious beings doesn't give us a purpose or meaning. That's the wrong question
Speaking of gloating over misery of someone else-Isn't it funny that religion, or better yet a story of a carpenter has lasted a couple thousands of years, and true or not will last until the end of the earth while Hitchens with all his intellect will die and not be remembered in just a couple of hundred years. LOL Hitchens knows this, and this is his misery and I think its funny that in two thousand years NO ONE will know of this man, while his worst internal enemy will still be celebrated.
@WDTripps well that has got to be the most nihilistic view I can imagine, I have a little faith in the intelligence of our species so id give it maybe 150 years. Its hard to put a date on evolution because there are a lot of things holding us back (stupid people), the more science does the harder it will be for the religious lie to spread. The higher the standard of education the less controllable human minds will be. I have faith
@mehico33 Your right, they way our species is heading the future doesn't look good yet we still have a chance to turn around, and create an almost perfect society but stupid people hold all of us back. For the first time in solid recorded history we are on a tipping point of being virtually immortal, or atleast living a few hundred years yet at the same time one wrong move could wipe us all out. Wouldn't things be great to be able to live 500 years? Yet one Jihad nuke could toast us. Scary....
@doGoNsIylbaborPerehT You atheists are so narrow minded... your religion made you dumb. The answer is simple, my friend. If there is a god you can pray to an all-loving god who sends good people that don't believe in him to hell, summons a bear to kill children that made fun of his prophets and flooded the whole earth. Silly narrow minded atheist :]
@AndroidThePoet that's true, plus he's a very good journalist, but I was making a point about the cynicism, ya know? If that's what I felt life was worth living for, I am sure that I would be a very sad human being. I guess I feel sorry for him, that's all.
@helpmetony he obviously is kidding... im just sorry you cant see that. That is not a real answer, only hitchens giving a stupid unanswerable question a funny response. Its not like the other guy can answer it either- nobody knows the meaning of life regardless of whether there is a god or not, or even if there IS an answer let alone a nice one
@Ars3nalFC95 well I'm not sorry that I cannot agree with you. I know that that question IS answerable. You do not see that obviously. What does that speak to you? "What cheers me up?" he says. That is a statement. It is a serious question. That's why he debates theists. This is not a comedy show.
@helpmetony Christopher Hitchens puts comedy into every single debate he has ever done. You might be able to come up with your own purpose for life, but you dont know shit for sure for ANYBODY else let alone everybody. Hitchens is parodying religious belief that athiests cant have thier own morals by saying he crows at others misfortunes and and lives for sex. Damn, you infuriate me. Morons like you are why there has to be censorship and people with this kind of humor have to hold back
@helpmetony I wouldn't venture to say that "moron" and "infuriate" are exclusive to the atheist jargon. But after centuries of blatant stupidity and oppression that monotheism has exhibited, I find those words to be appropriate when referring to many believers. (Not all, but many).
@mcneely2818 of course I cannot argue with you there. People have done great disservice to God . Countless people have given the rest of us Christians a very bad name, granted. "People", not God. Christ himself cared very little for religion.
@Ars3nalFC95 if Hitchens is joking, do you think he has or is capable of having a serious thought about these things? What about my comments "infuriate" you to the point where you are calling me names? I have a hunch that if we were face to face, you would act very differently. Seems easy to act cowardly in this medium, doesnt it?
@helpmetony that's a stupid ass question if i have ever heard one. He built a career off of serious thoughts, of course he is capable of them, he is more capable of them then most of the worlds population. His ability to add humor to the most hard hitting questions shows his genius even further. You piss me off because you are talking shit about this guy when you either plain dont get his joke, or you are just an asshole. You dont have to have a sense of humor just dont be a dick about it
@helpmetony what are you talking about? you rest your case? You still dont get the joke.. which is fine_but me swearing at you here still proves nothing about what id do face to face- i guarantee ive argued with more intimidating people than you. But its irrelevent this IS the internet and im going to talk how id like so answer or dont but do refrain from having anymore hunches
@helpmetony Good, the judge will now hand down the sentence. Ars3nailFC95 is correct, you are guilty of blatent public stupidity. I hereby sentence you to a minimum of at least looking into shit before you open your mouth.
@Khyrid ..so you are the judge? tell me of your qualifications? (as if that question would be any deeper to you than a spring rain puddle) ....perhaps I am "stupid" according to your views. Of course, ignorance and stupidity are two different things, arent they?
Anyway, your typical atheistic putdown was anticipated..
"looking into shit" (did you and Ars3nailFC95 skip classes at the same school?)
The "purpose" of life? In short: HERE YOU ARE - MAKE THE MOST OF IT ! LEARN things, DO things, be USEFUL in the world! Be a positive force in the world. Be a whole person. Take care of yourself before you try to assist others. Isn't this all obvious?
I hate this kind of question - "what is the meaning/purpose of life?" It's a lame attempt at being "deep". Just live your life! By all means, examine your life sometimes, but don't be trapped in endless analysis.
Humans want 'purposes' for things. We need reasons for things, beginnings and endings, how did it get here, where is it going, who created it? These are human questions based on our limited intelligence. The universe operates on a different level.
Are you deaf? It is a perfectly valid answer. There is no "purpose of life", and who says there has to be? It is exactly what you choose to make of it. You don't have to reproduce if you don't want to. If you can't answer for yourself, then you are clearly a very narrow minded believer and have probably never had such a choice.
Well apart from Christopher's point. My answer would have to be; To evolve a longer life then our predecessors have. It maybe in our nature to live forever.
I'm cheered up by some of the things that he's cheered up by but that doesn't give my life purpose. Things that cheer me up can give me endurance, but the dont set the goal.
Sadly there is a simple answer to this question, its not complex, the purpose of life is to breed, to produce offspring, to continue the cycle, to complete the circle of life.
I think the real question is what is the "purpose" of life. That is a tad bit more complex answer. The purpose of life is to grasp 1% of what is really going on.
Before telescopes and microscopes, before humans had a clue about the cosmic dance and the microscopic beat, god was a damn good answer. Now we know better.
@digital0707neo An invisible man in the sky who single handedly created everything was a damn good answer... it was a very infantile and simplistic answer to the big question. Had i been an illitarate person living in a time before physics and mathmatics were understood, before genetics and astronomy were studied, then yes... i too could see myself being convinced of a cosmic babysitter who creates galaxies and massive suns then takes time on his lunch break to answer my prayer for a new mud hut
Purpose? Trying to get into heaven (an unreal place for which there is no proof); trying to stay out of hell (an unreal place for which there is no proof); Theists have intangible, illusory, superstitious 'purpose', so, as far as I'm concerned they can go purposefully shove a porpoise up their piously pompous posteriors.
Hitchens' reply was meant to sarcastically show that atheists don't need a God in order to show them how to lead their lives as moral creatures. Here, he emulates the perspective that many believers mistakenly have of atheists.
What is the purpose of life? Only what the person who is living it wants it to be. I want mine to include love, laughter and the hope to cause no harm to others. That's good enough for me. I don't need religions to tell me how to meet those simple desires.
@Earthlessness Hitchens is not wrong if he lives in truth with himself? That doesn't make sense. And that's not the sentiment he applies to others. He spends a huge amount of his time telling others they are wrong even when others are "living what's true to themselves".
My point was that I dont agree with what he says about god, it really isnt my place to judge him, but im aware that as long as you live in truth, as you know it, and you do the best you can with that truth, you can't be blamed due to ignorance. I do not approve of Hitchens methods of argument, in the does god exists debate he ignores the rather rudimentary application of argument relating to the proof of a god, rather he demonstrates the ignorance and hypocracy of religion.
I have the answer to the question, live your life without harming others, being a asshole(unless necessary), and dont be stupid. we are here to live, advance society, and make shure our species lives to sometime get to other worlds.
I sure hope Hitchens is doing more than sitting on his ass saying how essentially pointless life is, or else we will all forget him the second his heart stops beating.
In math 0 always equals 0. You can’t get away from that. Stephen Hawkins has said, “there must always be a first cause, then the effect.” In order to have a universe of matter, and a beginning of space time, there had to be some power outside the finite, to start the engine. Infinite something above the finite. The question “so where did God come from,” is answered in the infinite. Something out of nothing, still leaves us with nothing starting everything.
@digital0707neo Yes, well Stephen Hawkins also has stated that energy can neither be created nor destroyed. Given that the universe is pure energy, it cannot be created, or destroyed. The ENERGY in the universe has ALWAYS been there. The energy just got rearranged, and it can do so by itself without an external effect.
There is no God. We would have seen evidence of him by now. Saying "he's hiding" is illogical given all of the myths in the Bible where he goes performing miracles.
The meaning of life is an opinion and nothing more. Life is unfair and always will be until the one thing is destroyed yet never will be. It is something you need yet hate. Money.
mikesime100 2 days ago
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mikesime100 2 days ago
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acat543 1 week ago
As of now, the meaning of life is an absolute blank; this truth determined by the universe itself, & cannot be changed. Nothing that exists, including YOU, has any purpose whatsoever. Everything JUST IS by natural powers. The meaning you give yourself (if you do that is), no matter how empathic or apathetic it is,is completely contrived & reality itself does not move towards that end. This is the existance you are forced to live within without your consent.
finalfantasy8911 1 month ago
Glad to see Hitch is still infuriating to believers post-mortem. Your high blood pressure is his testament.
CatharticWeek 2 months ago
A bloated lush's ego, a way with words and a British accent and you might have a career as an intellectual hack in America.
S2Cents 2 months ago
For everyone arguing that homosexuality is a sin.
1. You must prove to me that god exists
2. You must prove that he cares if you're gay enough to punish you for it
3. You must prove to me how that isn't completely fucked in the head considering he's the one who made them and asking them to deny their sexuality is unessisary, and therefor cruel, and unworthy of praise
amers963 2 months ago
Hitchens: "I really have no purpose in life. Which, if I admit I would look very stupid. Therefore let me say a corny joke or two so these dimwits forget the question."
Good answer Hitch.
zxcvbnm103 3 months ago
@zxcvbnm103 Why do you suggest that he had no purpose? Aside from the pleasures he took himself, he has inspired and liberated countless others, irreligious and otherwise. He changed my entire life - he helped me cast off the fear and become more moral, find more happiness and live with greater dignity. Can you hold a candle to that?
chordstruck 2 months ago
@chordstruck Hitch has helped so many people break the chains of slavery. Damn straight he had purpose.
ballerine11 2 months ago
For all those who believe that homosexuality is a "choice", let me ask you...when did YOU "decide" to be heterosexual? That's right, when did you consciously decide to be straight?
The answer is, you didn't, any more than gay people "choose" to be gay. So stop already with this nonsense about how it's a "lifestyle choice".
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objectivechristian 4 months ago
@mikefromwa Your argument is flawed. Scientifically we are a binary gendered species who reproduces sexually. Using a purely scientific argument, heterosexuality is the result of millions of years of evolution enabling species to survive. There is no apparent benefit for homosexuality.
I don't personally know where to side in the argument. I don't think anyone ever truly decides "I think I'd like a penis up my butt". However I don't think anyone is born gay either. Time will tell.
objectivechristian 4 months ago
@objectivechristian: "There is no apparent benefit for homosexuality."
Keyword, "apparent". If there was no benefit then the genes would have been culled out long ago.
"I don't think anyone ever truly decides "I think I'd like a penis up my butt". "
Some people do. Just because you can't imagine such a thing doesn't mean it doesn't happen. But that's NOT the same thing as being gay.
"However I don't think anyone is born gay either. "
It's pretty obvious that you're mistaken.
mikefromwa 4 months ago
@mikefromwa "genes...culled out long ago."
Genes not yet identified
"Some people do."
But you stated it's NOT a decision. Stay consistent
"obvious that you're mistaken"
If I am mistaken, then I trust science will provide conclusive proof. Until then it remains what it has always been, mere conjecture
Let me help you. It's entirely possible for homosexuality to be developed environmentally and naturally after the point of birth. There's far more evidence of that than anything genetic.
objectivechristian 4 months ago
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@objectivechristian: "But you stated it's NOT a decision. Stay consistent"
You're confusing sex and orientation. Some people may choose to engage in various sexual activities without it being their primary orientation. Sex is what you DO, orientation is what you ARE.
"It's entirely possible for homosexuality to be developed environmentally and naturally after the point of birth"
Sure, it's possible. So what?
"There's far more evidence of that than anything genetic"
No, there isn't
mikefromwa 4 months ago
@mikefromwa I think he said it best in another clip. "Homosexuality is not just a form of sex. It's a form of love and it deserves our respect for that reason"
Usernamenottaken2k 1 week ago
@Usernamenottaken2k: Yes, that was very well said, and as good a way to put it as I've heard. Someday people won't care about who loves who, and the pointless stigma of being gay will be a shameful memory, similar to the way slavery is regarded today. The mindless hatred of homosexuality is one of religion's worst side-effects.
mikefromwa 1 week ago
@mikefromwa i don't think it's a choice, but i certainly don't think it's gene-related. i could bring a baby up to become gay, just as i could bring one up to becmome straight.
JoshMac92 1 week ago
@JoshMac92: "but i certainly don't think it's gene-related"
Then why do a lot of different animals exhibit homosexual behavior? You're not saying that these animals (penguins, deer, dogs, etc just to name a few) are making a deliberate lifestyle choice are you? How do you explain that?
"i could bring a baby up to become gay, just as i could bring one up to becmome straight"
A lot of parents would tell you different.
mikefromwa 1 week ago
@mikefromwa first of all, thanks for not kicking off or anything and giving and actually giving an intelligent answer. i guess we'll not actually know these answers for the time being.
JoshMac92 1 week ago
@JoshMac92: For some it may be a choice, but for the vast majority it's an innate part of who they are, just as with heterosexual people. To make this a littler clearer, did you consciously decide at some point to be straight? Probably not. We like what we like, whether it's food or music or sex. We don't normally make a deliberate decision to prefer rock over classical or strawberry over vanilla. The same goes for our sexuality, people don't usually get to pick their orientation.
mikefromwa 1 week ago
@mikefromwa fact:
the only creatures within our planet that can produce homosexual behaviour is humans and dolphins. Why?
because they are the only two animals which have sex for pleasure
simple.
mikesime100 2 days ago
@mikesime100: Homosexuality occurs in over 450 species; homophobia only occurs in one.
mikefromwa 2 days ago
Please visit my channel for the unpopular truth about homosexuality.
A person does not need hatred or any kind of phobia in order to acknowledge important differences between heterosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption and homosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption. Even non-religious people know this.
Homosexual activists, with support from the media, have succeeded at framing themselves as noble victims; it's an effective way to push a social agenda.
lightandbeautiful 5 months ago
@lightandbeautiful
read it and it's bullshit. some people ARE "born that way" and it hasnt been "scientifically disproven".
the shame tactics are mainly just jokes that produce red faces from people.
When you attack a person's sexuality you ARE attacking them. Why? Because it's WHO THEY ARE.
don't start using words like "scientifically" if you don't actually understand what it means.
randomperson2538 5 months ago
@lightandbeautiful I applaud your sudden realization that homosexuals and heterosexuals are different. Well done.
pythor2 4 months ago
@lightandbeautiful: "Please visit my channel for the unpopular truth about homosexuality."
No, I won't visit your channel to perpetuate hate against a whole class of people. People like you are what's wrong with the world. What's the matter- isn't there enough hate in this world for you already?
mikefromwa 1 week ago
Faith, Hope, Love and among these love is the greatest.
Life without purpose is like a ship without a compass.
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kupekake 6 months ago
Wow, I didn't know Hitchens was logically stupid.
There is a new book which reveals secrets about what God and Satan really are, not the bullshit given to the public.
'God Stopping A Nuclear War'
What does it explain?
Why Hitler, German dislike of Jews, why Jews head into banking, media, Hollywood, Wall Street. Why black crime, why Uk looting, what a soul is - alive information.
God - left brain group mind - verbal favoring Jews.
Satan - right brain group mind - spatial - Germans.
mikeymensa 6 months ago
@mikeymensa What the fucking hell are you talking about?
HubbellKent 6 months ago
@mikeymensa hahaha fucking bullshit.
xomiakas 5 months ago
@mikeymensa "Why Hitler, German dislike of Jews" [sic]
Hitler and the Germans (at the time of WW2) had a deep seated hatred for Jews because the German propaganda machine blamed the Jews for Germany's loss in WW1. there were many short films made that painted Jews in a bad light. if you want a book to read to explain this more, i'd recommend the Book called Auschwitz, that accompanied the BBC TV show. but it is a very grim read.
frackcha 5 months ago
You'll notice the man in the blue shirt to the right of the stage in the front row, from the other video's and a question he asked Hitchens, I can see he's one of these arrogant air heads who thinks he's always right, even when he knows he's wrong. He doesn't clap or smile or laugh at anything Hitchens says which I find completely absurd, Hitchens' is funny regardless if you agree with his views or not, at least I think so. Some people are just miserable all their lives, and his god made him so.
PlntPeace 6 months ago 7
i LOVE how serious and frustrated Turek was at this point in the debate, and the Hitch was just getting started. haha.
EpicPhalure 7 months ago
the purpose of my life, is to stay up all night, go to work the next day tired, try and pick-up women after work, then repeat. Oh yeah, and to smoke a cig after this comment.
sinschild07 7 months ago
Hitchen's was stumped so had to issue some embarrassing self truths. His purpose in life, as stated by him: Hedonistic pleasure-reduced to self satisfaction from comparing his station in life to that of those less fortunate (could that be gratefulness??) & sex. The reason he was stumped is because if there is no Gd, no designer, then there is no "purpose". Anything designed, is designed for a purpose. Design implies intent. Anything brought about by happenstance has no inherent purpose.
mrtruthforever 7 months ago
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jscottupton 7 months ago
No god...no evil...so Hitler was not evil...he was just "out of the mainstream"...or "differently motivated"...or "an abberation ".
jscottupton 7 months ago
I don't need an all powerful dictator in the sky to determine the meaning of my life. I'm perfectly capable of finding meaning and purpose in life for myself
TheHomelessCripple 7 months ago
@TheHomelessCripple You should use your own words rather than paraphrase Hitchens. You can only assign purpose to your life if there is no Designer. If there is no Designer, then your life has no inherent purpose, other than the subjective desires you may wish to fulfill. Only something is "designed" is designed with inherent intent of the Designer. Happenstance has no inherent intent behind the outcome.
mrtruthforever 7 months ago
@mrtruthforever those are my own words. I've said this long before I knew who Hitchens was, and I have yet to hear him say anything on those line, although I don't doubt at some point he probably has.
Implying a "designer" without evidence for its existance is meaningless. The "argument" (it can hardly be an that) from design is an argument from ignorance. If u say the designer is the abrahamic god, I can just as equally refute you claim by saying the designer is Gaia, Woden, Ra, Krishna, etc
TheHomelessCripple 7 months ago
@TheHomelessCripple The argument of design is from ignorance? You should study the probabilities of randomness pertaining to the formation of enzymes, bacteria, (let alone multicellular specialized life forms), then we'll discuss who's ignorant. Comparing a monotheistic notion of a force beyond the constraints of matter (& therefore time) to logically disproven polytheistic notions Woden, Ra, Gaia, etc. is pure stupidity.
mrtruthforever 7 months ago
@mrtruthforever
Randomness is a poor argument. Just because an act or state is infinitely improbable, does not make that state infinitely impossible. The probability of me sitting at that computer is infinitely improbable, but guess what? I am. Are my actions defying of nature?
If you're implying a deterministic god put me in my chair, I ask you for objective evidence in support of your fairy-tale tyrant
Supernatural beings can never be disproven. You should learn a thing or two about skepticism
TheHomelessCripple 7 months ago
@TheHomelessCripple Had the primordial earth fallen into a slighly tighter orbit around the sun, our planet would have incinerated millions of years ago. Had it fallen into a slightly wider orbit, our planet would have escaped into frozeness. If the rate of the universe's expansion 1 second after the Big Ban had been smaller by even 1part in a Hundred Thousand Million Million,the universe would have recollapsed before reaching it present size (Hawkings). Naah, No precision here
mrtruthforever 7 months ago
@mrtruthforever You need to learn the anthropic principle, and stop believing the bullshit "probability of xxx" arguments your preacher (or crap "authority figure" of choice) has sold you on. You may think they sound logical, but all they do is make you look like a bigger and bigger dumbass for believing them.
azdgariarada 7 months ago
@azdgariarada What a moron you are. All the facts quoted were taken from physicists & Nobel laureats (not preachers; dickhead). There are many more if you like. But no need to overkill you. Amazing how drawing conclusions from science & statistics regarding the plausibility of design to the universe is considered "belief", but believing in AetheISM, a belief which is innately unprovable (since you will never be able to prove Gd doesn't exist) is considered "logical". You are the obvious fanatic.
mrtruthforever 7 months ago
@mrtruthforever Awww, you're cute when you're quote mining and twisting the words of scientists to mean the opposite of what they've actually said. Almost as cute as when you just completely fail to grasp the point they're making and how it is completely opposed to your warped view.
But then again, what more should one expect from someone who honestly believes Atheism is a "belief" when it is in fact, the REJECTION of belief. You might try the dictionary next time instead of the bible. ;-)
azdgariarada 7 months ago
@azdgariarada "-ism" as a suffix connotes belief. Aetheism must be rendered as a belief, because even the most ardent aetheists acknowledge that you can never prove that something (let alone Gd), doesn't exist. I have provided you quotes & statistics. You provide nothing, except vulgarity. You choose to ignore the improbability of randomness with regard to physics, biology, cosmology, etc. Fine. You draw your conclusions, but you should respect those who draw different conclusions.
mrtruthforever 7 months ago
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mrtruthforever 7 months ago
@mrtruthforever Haha, yeah.
I would have removed that ad hominem attack too. Wouldn't want anybody to know what you had to resort to in order to make yourself feel better about failing so miserably at life. ;-)
Better luck next time.
azdgariarada 7 months ago
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mrtruthforever 7 months ago
@mrtruthforever so, if I understand this correctly, you're position is: "It's too impossible for it to happen, therefore god".
Congratulations, you're the most uneducated person I've ever conversed with.
TheHomelessCripple 7 months ago
@TheHomelessCripple If I understand you correctly, since you can't explain ex-nihlosim, nor the precision of the formation of the universe, nor the fact that an expanding universe attests to the creation of time & matter, you prefer to dismiss the possibility of a non-physical plane & prefer a "belief" that Gd categorically does not exist (something which is inherently unprovable). Congratulations moron, you offer nothing to substantiate your position other than closemindedness.
mrtruthforever 7 months ago
@mrtruthforever yes, it is logically impossible to disprove the existance of any object. At least that's something we agree on. So now, you understand why until you PROVE you're hypothesised magical deity with empirical, independantly verifiable evidence that i will not accept you premis
Without evidence for your position, I can quite equally and validly assert that a magical pumpkin-turtle hybrid from the 14th dimensions with 27 arms and 3 butts created the universe
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mrtruthforever 7 months ago
@TheHomelessCripple Sure, sure. theoretically, given an infinity,anything is possible.If you were walking thru a forest, found a Rolex watch in the earth,would you assume "well given billions of years anything could happen" or would you assume someone lost it. If you were to conclude that a Rolex watch is too complicated to be explained by chance, how is it you feel comfortable attributing randomness biological processes(infinitely more complicated).Answer: Duplicity requires no accountability
mrtruthforever 7 months ago
@TheHomelessCripple Randomness a poor argument: Only to the closeminded person.Yale University's L.M. Krauss has compared the odds of the universe expanding at PRECISELY the right rate to "the odds of someone guessing exactly how many atoms are in the sun" (Scientific American).
mrtruthforever 7 months ago
@TheHomelessCripple The odds of randomly assembling a bacterium from all the right enzymes (about 2,000 different) is 1 in 10^39,950. Nobel laureate Hoyle: the odds could not be faced even if the whole universe consisted of organic soup.
mrtruthforever 7 months ago
@TheHomelessCripple As far as people, there are 25,000 operative enzymes (in contrast to a bacterium's 2,000). The probability of 25,000 enzymes forming spontaneously ONCE in a billion years is about 1 in 10^599,930. Not to mention assembling into cells, nucleotides into a strip of DNA, differentiated organs. I guess it's easier for a devout aetheist to BELIEVE in something that can never be proven (i.e., that Gd doesn't exist), than acknowledging the improbability of randomness.
mrtruthforever 7 months ago
@mrtruthforever have you ever watched a random mutation program? do you even understand micro/macro evolution? what is your major malfunction private pyle?!
maciverandy 7 months ago
@maciverandy Doesn't random mutagenesis typically begin with cloning the gene encoding receptor prior to introducing mutations to the gene sequence? What does that have to do with explaining ex nihlo creation of matter?
mrtruthforever 7 months ago
@mrtruthforever ex-nihlo creation of matter? are you serious?! so where did god come from? isn't your creationist, "out of nothing" bullshit just as applicable to a god? i mean who created god? do you actually deny that life evolves because if you do you are hopeless.
maciverandy 7 months ago
@maciverandy An expanding universe (the consensus in physics today) attests to a point at which matter & time began.Oscillating & static theories have long been debunked. So if there is a point at which matter was created, where did it come from? If you limit yourself to only a physical plane of existence, you are in a circular loop, especially given that matter has definite constraints (laws), which is also indicative of "design".
mrtruthforever 7 months ago
@mrtruthforever Congratulations, you've officially demonstrated that the Universe and Earth facilitate life, is this contrary to your intended objective? Looking at a cosmological constant and the innumerable variables involved in determining the habitability of Earth and therefore concluding that those constants and variables were conjured by a God is not only an argument from ignorance, but a non sequitur as well. Your argument is presumably based on nothing more than logic accompanied (cont)
buttface112211 6 months ago
@buttface112211 thank you so much. It's reassuring to know at least one other person realizes "random chance" is a historically epic fail of an argument for magical space pixies
TheHomelessCripple 5 months ago
@TheHomelessCripple Lol, seems like nobody ever replies when I eviscerate their entire argument. Rather unfortunate. However, I have noticed that despite prevalent refutations of batshit crazy fallacious arguments, they ignore them and repeat them in other videos.
buttface112211 5 months ago
@buttface112211 What role does your God play in this universe? If it's creation of this universe, then isn't his job over? Or does he still affect us today; occasionally answering prayers? If he doesn't affect our world presently, is he still a God? or a force of creation. Would that force of creation be any different than the big bang? Is a conscious being (like ourselves) required to start the universe? How was he created?
thethiefstheme 5 months ago
@thethiefstheme I'm an atheist, I don't know what I said that would suggest otherwise.
buttface112211 5 months ago
@maciverandy Yale University's L.M. Krauss has compared the odds of the universe expanding at PRECISELY the right rate to "the odds of someone guessing exactly how many atoms are in the sun" (Scientific American). Yep, no inference of "design" here, moron.
mrtruthforever 7 months ago
@mrtruthforever by some scientific observations and discoveries within cosmology and physics, but can you apply logic to something that is so counterintuitive? Afterall, we didn't evolve to intuitively grasp the very large, very small, vast time spans, short time spans, and many other aspects of nature. However, the Big Bang marked the beginning of perceivable nature, and logic even fails within nature. So why attempt to apply to logic to the Big Bang?
buttface112211 6 months ago
@maciverandy Had the primordial earth fallen into a slighly tighter orbit around the sun, our planet would have incinerated millions of years ago. Had it fallen into a slightly wider orbit, our planet would have escaped into frozeness. If the rate of the universe's expansion 1 second after the Big Bang had been smaller by even 1part in a Hundred Thousand Million Million,the universe would have recollapsed before reaching it present size (Hawkings). Naah, No precision here moron.
mrtruthforever 7 months ago
@mrtruthforever so we just showed up here with the dinosaurs 6000 yers ago? who made god?! who made god?! WHO MADE GOD?! do you understand that there are more solar systems than grains of salt on beaches of the world? just because we are alive here on earth doesn't make us super-special...people win the powerball lottery and that seems unlikely, but it happens. so you actually believe the bible word for word? how old do you think the planet is? or are all your ideas just ex-nihlo? retard!!!
maciverandy 7 months ago
@mrtruthforever Yeah the universe isn't accomodated for life we adapted to it. This universe is hostile to life it's nowhere fine tuned for it. Cite your sources and give evidence of intellegent design all you are doing right now is using the arguement from ignorance.
nextgenvids 7 months ago
@nextgenvids If we were able to adapt to the universe, then it follows that the universe is accommodated for life to form.
QuantumStates 3 months ago
@mrtruthforever Yeah the universe isn't accomodated for life we adapted to it. This universe is hostile to life it's nowhere fine tuned for it. Give some a link for those "Odds" from a scientific paper. Cite your sources and give evidence of intellegent design all you are doing right now is using the arguement from ignorance.
nextgenvids 7 months ago
Christian: the purpose of life is to spread the love of God, our great creator, who also made heaven that waits for us after death, and help people
Atheist: the purpose of life is to get born, eat, shit, fuck and die
gogolplex74 7 months ago
@gogolplex74 Satire or Bigotry? I can't tell which.
twistedH3L1X 7 months ago
@twistedH3L1X both
gogolplex74 7 months ago
we are just the ape that got lucky ' so stop the bullshit and enjoy ........
MrStewart149 7 months ago
The purpose of life is to impose order upon reality.
twistedH3L1X 7 months ago
'I can only speak for myself',..... Thank You for that!
hamzah938 7 months ago
There is no meaning. That is to say, there is no singular definition of why we are here. It's up to each individual to discover their purpose in life and forge their own path.
And don't let anyone tell you otherwise (I'm looking at you, religion).
Xanatos712 8 months ago
You make your own purpose.
A2thedouble 8 months ago
sex is...aaaammmazzinngg :P
Ohloveeh 8 months ago
"what is the purpose of life?" - an inappropriate question... the purpose of a toaster is to toast, the purpose of a pen is to write.. what is the purpose of a tree? what is the purpose of grass? inanimate objects developed by people to serve as tools have purposes, however living things have really only one conceivable purpose which is to reproduce, the fact that we a conscious beings doesn't give us a purpose or meaning. That's the wrong question
beerstud290 8 months ago
He's a very smart man!
miamisox 8 months ago
Speaking of gloating over misery of someone else-Isn't it funny that religion, or better yet a story of a carpenter has lasted a couple thousands of years, and true or not will last until the end of the earth while Hitchens with all his intellect will die and not be remembered in just a couple of hundred years. LOL Hitchens knows this, and this is his misery and I think its funny that in two thousand years NO ONE will know of this man, while his worst internal enemy will still be celebrated.
WDTripps 8 months ago
@WDTripps well that has got to be the most nihilistic view I can imagine, I have a little faith in the intelligence of our species so id give it maybe 150 years. Its hard to put a date on evolution because there are a lot of things holding us back (stupid people), the more science does the harder it will be for the religious lie to spread. The higher the standard of education the less controllable human minds will be. I have faith
mehico33 8 months ago
@mehico33 Your right, they way our species is heading the future doesn't look good yet we still have a chance to turn around, and create an almost perfect society but stupid people hold all of us back. For the first time in solid recorded history we are on a tipping point of being virtually immortal, or atleast living a few hundred years yet at the same time one wrong move could wipe us all out. Wouldn't things be great to be able to live 500 years? Yet one Jihad nuke could toast us. Scary....
WDTripps 8 months ago
Good answer! but it was even better by...
Conan the Barbarian: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women.
TheSaltyAdmiral 8 months ago
just saw a picture of mohammed raping a blonde jesus in the face. it was hot.
deadgoblin86 9 months ago
I wonder if hitchens will keep that smug attitude when he is cursed to an eternity of flat beer and ugly strippers
keith8880 9 months ago
@keith8880 i think like the rest of us [ the sane people ] he would not give it a single thought ...all hail the flying spaghetti monster ......
MrStewart149 9 months ago
The question from the video was:
"If God does not exist - what is then the purpose of life?"
Would be nice to hear an answer to this:
"If God does exist - what is then the purpose of life."
(I might not like it or agree on the answer but it would be nice to hear it anyway.)
doGoNsIylbaborPerehT 9 months ago
@doGoNsIylbaborPerehT You atheists are so narrow minded... your religion made you dumb. The answer is simple, my friend. If there is a god you can pray to an all-loving god who sends good people that don't believe in him to hell, summons a bear to kill children that made fun of his prophets and flooded the whole earth. Silly narrow minded atheist :]
Thundercatz0r 9 months ago
@doGoNsIylbaborPerehT Sorry, screwed the comment up a bit. If there is such a god, then you can pray for him all eternity!
Thundercatz0r 9 months ago
LoL who would ask "If there is no God, what is the purpose of life?" Read some existentialist philosophy dumbass.
slideon 9 months ago
Life has whatever meaning YOU give it. Like everything else, it ALL COMES FROM INSIDE YOU!!!
alexfjord 10 months ago
Chris lives for gloating over others misfortunes, irony and sex (with often diminishing results). why do people buy his books again?
helpmetony 10 months ago
@helpmetony
Idiot.
twooffour 10 months ago
@twooffour ..you said it.
helpmetony 10 months ago
@helpmetony
Thanks for agreeing.
twooffour 10 months ago
@helpmetony because he's witty?
AndroidThePoet 10 months ago
@AndroidThePoet that's true, plus he's a very good journalist, but I was making a point about the cynicism, ya know? If that's what I felt life was worth living for, I am sure that I would be a very sad human being. I guess I feel sorry for him, that's all.
helpmetony 10 months ago
@helpmetony he obviously is kidding... im just sorry you cant see that. That is not a real answer, only hitchens giving a stupid unanswerable question a funny response. Its not like the other guy can answer it either- nobody knows the meaning of life regardless of whether there is a god or not, or even if there IS an answer let alone a nice one
Ars3nalFC95 10 months ago
@Ars3nalFC95 well I'm not sorry that I cannot agree with you. I know that that question IS answerable. You do not see that obviously. What does that speak to you? "What cheers me up?" he says. That is a statement. It is a serious question. That's why he debates theists. This is not a comedy show.
helpmetony 10 months ago
@helpmetony Christopher Hitchens puts comedy into every single debate he has ever done. You might be able to come up with your own purpose for life, but you dont know shit for sure for ANYBODY else let alone everybody. Hitchens is parodying religious belief that athiests cant have thier own morals by saying he crows at others misfortunes and and lives for sex. Damn, you infuriate me. Morons like you are why there has to be censorship and people with this kind of humor have to hold back
Ars3nalFC95 10 months ago
@Ars3nalFC95 and your calling me a moron and me infuriating you is typical talk for most atheists. Cowardly and easy since we are not face to face.
helpmetony 10 months ago
@helpmetony christian gets owned, surprise surprise.
kram83au 9 months ago
@helpmetony I wouldn't venture to say that "moron" and "infuriate" are exclusive to the atheist jargon. But after centuries of blatant stupidity and oppression that monotheism has exhibited, I find those words to be appropriate when referring to many believers. (Not all, but many).
mcneely2818 9 months ago
@mcneely2818 of course I cannot argue with you there. People have done great disservice to God . Countless people have given the rest of us Christians a very bad name, granted. "People", not God. Christ himself cared very little for religion.
helpmetony 9 months ago
@helpmetony and yet the irony is that arguably the world's most dominant RELIGION is fashioned around him.
mcneely2818 8 months ago
@Ars3nalFC95 if Hitchens is joking, do you think he has or is capable of having a serious thought about these things? What about my comments "infuriate" you to the point where you are calling me names? I have a hunch that if we were face to face, you would act very differently. Seems easy to act cowardly in this medium, doesnt it?
helpmetony 10 months ago
@helpmetony that's a stupid ass question if i have ever heard one. He built a career off of serious thoughts, of course he is capable of them, he is more capable of them then most of the worlds population. His ability to add humor to the most hard hitting questions shows his genius even further. You piss me off because you are talking shit about this guy when you either plain dont get his joke, or you are just an asshole. You dont have to have a sense of humor just dont be a dick about it
Ars3nalFC95 10 months ago
@Ars3nalFC95 ... I rest my case.
helpmetony 10 months ago
@helpmetony what are you talking about? you rest your case? You still dont get the joke.. which is fine_but me swearing at you here still proves nothing about what id do face to face- i guarantee ive argued with more intimidating people than you. But its irrelevent this IS the internet and im going to talk how id like so answer or dont but do refrain from having anymore hunches
Ars3nalFC95 9 months ago
@helpmetony Good, the judge will now hand down the sentence. Ars3nailFC95 is correct, you are guilty of blatent public stupidity. I hereby sentence you to a minimum of at least looking into shit before you open your mouth.
Khyrid 9 months ago
@Khyrid ..so you are the judge? tell me of your qualifications? (as if that question would be any deeper to you than a spring rain puddle) ....perhaps I am "stupid" according to your views. Of course, ignorance and stupidity are two different things, arent they?
Anyway, your typical atheistic putdown was anticipated..
"looking into shit" (did you and Ars3nailFC95 skip classes at the same school?)
helpmetony 9 months ago
@helpmetony ...you yell as you're dragged away to moron prison.
Khyrid 9 months ago
The "purpose" of life? In short: HERE YOU ARE - MAKE THE MOST OF IT ! LEARN things, DO things, be USEFUL in the world! Be a positive force in the world. Be a whole person. Take care of yourself before you try to assist others. Isn't this all obvious?
I hate this kind of question - "what is the meaning/purpose of life?" It's a lame attempt at being "deep". Just live your life! By all means, examine your life sometimes, but don't be trapped in endless analysis.
vonkruel 10 months ago
"i'd have to say crowing over the misfortunes of others." hahahaha I love you Christopher.
toolheade33 11 months ago
Humans want 'purposes' for things. We need reasons for things, beginnings and endings, how did it get here, where is it going, who created it? These are human questions based on our limited intelligence. The universe operates on a different level.
Brenda2OOO 11 months ago
I adore this man!
DurexDurpaneu2 11 months ago
The purpose of like is to shag.
NormanAngle 11 months ago
He had no answer to that, he joked it off and the puppet audience bought it.
BajaEscapade 11 months ago
@BajaEscapade "I can only answer it for myself"
Are you deaf? It is a perfectly valid answer. There is no "purpose of life", and who says there has to be? It is exactly what you choose to make of it. You don't have to reproduce if you don't want to. If you can't answer for yourself, then you are clearly a very narrow minded believer and have probably never had such a choice.
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HighPoweredLasers 11 months ago
The purpose of life is a purposeful life.
lanceawatt 11 months ago
@lanceawatt The purpose of life is subjective. There is no absolute purpose (watch?v=mXjyThnpHLE)
NightHawkBomber001 11 months ago
@NightHawkBomber001 I agree, purpose is just desire, for meaning, everyone's desires are subjective :)
lanceawatt 11 months ago
Well apart from Christopher's point. My answer would have to be; To evolve a longer life then our predecessors have. It maybe in our nature to live forever.
EdBoonSucks 1 year ago
I'm cheered up by some of the things that he's cheered up by but that doesn't give my life purpose. Things that cheer me up can give me endurance, but the dont set the goal.
Brazillianviking 1 year ago
If life has no purpose than we as life beings have no purpose. If we dont have purpose then what we say has no purpose. Why then even say anything?
Brazillianviking 1 year ago
@Brazillianviking Because you want to. Make your own purpose, don't have it decided by someone/something else.
Revan540 1 year ago
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Brazillianviking 1 year ago
Sadly there is a simple answer to this question, its not complex, the purpose of life is to breed, to produce offspring, to continue the cycle, to complete the circle of life.
I think the real question is what is the "purpose" of life. That is a tad bit more complex answer. The purpose of life is to grasp 1% of what is really going on.
Before telescopes and microscopes, before humans had a clue about the cosmic dance and the microscopic beat, god was a damn good answer. Now we know better.
HackNinja420 1 year ago
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Dear Hack, I'm confused about a little thing, and wonder if you would help me? I don't understand your statement "damn good" what is that exactly?
digital0707neo 11 months ago
@digital0707neo An invisible man in the sky who single handedly created everything was a damn good answer... it was a very infantile and simplistic answer to the big question. Had i been an illitarate person living in a time before physics and mathmatics were understood, before genetics and astronomy were studied, then yes... i too could see myself being convinced of a cosmic babysitter who creates galaxies and massive suns then takes time on his lunch break to answer my prayer for a new mud hut
HackNinja420 10 months ago
To answer the question more seriously, I would just say that life has no purpose. You make your own life.
gulbirk 1 year ago 12
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Purpose? Trying to get into heaven (an unreal place for which there is no proof); trying to stay out of hell (an unreal place for which there is no proof); Theists have intangible, illusory, superstitious 'purpose', so, as far as I'm concerned they can go purposefully shove a porpoise up their piously pompous posteriors.
asiankevind 1 year ago
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asiankevind 1 year ago
Eat, sleep and reproduce. What more do we need?
youztuber5000 1 year ago 2
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TheNikko88 1 year ago
@perfectshot77 You've totally missed his point...
Hitchens' reply was meant to sarcastically show that atheists don't need a God in order to show them how to lead their lives as moral creatures. Here, he emulates the perspective that many believers mistakenly have of atheists.
everything543210 1 year ago
It's funny how people argue about stupid things like this, which is why I rather be a plant than a human. Hail Zeus.
MrFoodnSex 1 year ago
More proof that atheism is evil and the enemy.
LordWhorfinX2 1 year ago
@LordWhorfinX2 what is that proof? You do realize he is being satirical?
xn117 1 year ago
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@LordWhorfinX2 More proof that you are a complete retard.
viridismonasteriense 1 year ago
Purpose is a human invention. Will it how you please.
TheJacolyte 1 year ago
What is the purpose of life? Only what the person who is living it wants it to be. I want mine to include love, laughter and the hope to cause no harm to others. That's good enough for me. I don't need religions to tell me how to meet those simple desires.
Hornadayfan 1 year ago
He obviously doesn't have an answer, as usual.
madtownband 1 year ago
He may not believe in god, but what he says is true to him, as long as he lives in truth with himself, he is not wrong.
Earthlessness 1 year ago
@Earthlessness Hitchens is not wrong if he lives in truth with himself? That doesn't make sense. And that's not the sentiment he applies to others. He spends a huge amount of his time telling others they are wrong even when others are "living what's true to themselves".
Elhardt 1 year ago
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My point was that I dont agree with what he says about god, it really isnt my place to judge him, but im aware that as long as you live in truth, as you know it, and you do the best you can with that truth, you can't be blamed due to ignorance. I do not approve of Hitchens methods of argument, in the does god exists debate he ignores the rather rudimentary application of argument relating to the proof of a god, rather he demonstrates the ignorance and hypocracy of religion.
Earthlessness 1 year ago
Hitchins is the ULTIMATE.
superwowie111 1 year ago
I have the answer to the question, live your life without harming others, being a asshole(unless necessary), and dont be stupid. we are here to live, advance society, and make shure our species lives to sometime get to other worlds.
theMammothman 1 year ago
I sure hope Hitchens is doing more than sitting on his ass saying how essentially pointless life is, or else we will all forget him the second his heart stops beating.
tpstrat14 1 year ago
Great answer. In other words who the hell knows?
wackydan74 1 year ago
@glamourennui I was trolling :')
RandomerOfRandomness 1 year ago
Brilliant answer!
dtjvreeswijk 1 year ago
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In math 0 always equals 0. You can’t get away from that. Stephen Hawkins has said, “there must always be a first cause, then the effect.” In order to have a universe of matter, and a beginning of space time, there had to be some power outside the finite, to start the engine. Infinite something above the finite. The question “so where did God come from,” is answered in the infinite. Something out of nothing, still leaves us with nothing starting everything.
digital0707neo 1 year ago
@digital0707neo perhaps, we cannot say for sure.
Nat3skiz 1 year ago
@digital0707neo Yes, well Stephen Hawkins also has stated that energy can neither be created nor destroyed. Given that the universe is pure energy, it cannot be created, or destroyed. The ENERGY in the universe has ALWAYS been there. The energy just got rearranged, and it can do so by itself without an external effect.
There is no God. We would have seen evidence of him by now. Saying "he's hiding" is illogical given all of the myths in the Bible where he goes performing miracles.
Unicyclist90210 1 year ago