Cetniks and Ustase collaborating is a load of crap and anyone who knows any of Serbian/Croatian history will say the same. Cetniks were a Royalist Serbian army. They believed in Serbian nationalism and the king. Ustase exterminated half of million of Serbs in concentration camps during WW2. These 2 could never coexist because their mutual hatred was bigger than Cetniks hatred towards the Communists or Germans.
@dmacid The Ustase were Fascist collaborators from the start. The Cetniks were in between; sometimes they fought the Germans, and sometimes they fought the Partisans. However, Tito's Partisans never collaborated with the Germans and were responsible for tying down the German armies in Yugoslavia.
@leonenaj Chetniks were never in between. Them fighting alongside Germans was a lie fabricated by the Parisans (commies) to get the support of England and US so they could take over once the war was over. The whole resistance movement in Yugoslavia was started by Chetniks and they were the first ones to inflict a defeat on Germans in 1941. However, Chetniks did fight the commies which opened them up to a 2 front war and resulted in their defeat in the end.
@dmacid It's more like the enemy of my enemy is my friend. It would be like the Americans fighting the English while they were fighting the Germans. Instead of focusing their efforts on the Germans, the Cetniks fought the communists. So how is that not collaboration with the Germans? And don't even try to tell me of Cetnik victories over the Germans. They did nothing of note.
@leonenaj Cetniks saw both the Nazi and Commies as 2 separate evils looking to destroy their way of life. Cetniks were royalists, they believed in god and the king. Commies were their ideological enemies in every way imaginable. And so were Germans who occupied and tried to destroy Serbia. So they fought both at the same time. If you wanna look up Cetnik victories against the Nazi they were the first ones to stop a nazi motirized division and they also saved some 600 American pilots.
@dmacid Ok, and the Germans organized 7 different Anti-partisan operations to get rid of Tito, and THEY STILL FAILED. Tito was tying down huge numbers of Axis troops with his rag tag army. The Cetniks' help to the anti-fascist cause was present, yet insignificant. You can also find pictures of Chetniks taking photos with Germans. You will never find a photo of a partisan doing this. Also, in perhaps the biggest battle of the balkan front, the cetniks supported the germans with 20,000 troops.
this is pretty questionable stuff regarding the SOE and the Chetniks, it is well documented now that alot of these accusations were made up by British double agents of the SOE who were communists
@JerryKitich The Chetniks were supporting the fashists by giving away partisans and their families. The Ustashi were much worse because they actively killed for the Germans. Pretty much the only force fighting against the germans were the partisans led by Tito. Ironically, the SOE supported the Chetniks for some time.
@leonenaj The Chetniks were fighting the Nazis. The Chetniks were also fighting the communists; the Cold War statrted even before the very end of WW2. The Chetniks were not wrong; communism is the enemy. Unless you have actual sources to quote its not much of a debate; as I said British intelligence failures and double agents have distorted much. For example Chetniks saved over 500 downed Allied airmen and returned them to their forces; this is not what Nazi collaborators do.
It seems episode (5/10) is still viewed as 'distastful' in inter-European relations so it has 'vanished'..... three cheers for democracy and freedom of speech! Hurra, Hurra...etc
Was there really a Ministry of Propaganda? If they called it that and Goebels as Misnister of Propaganda then the people would think all he says are all propaganda.
@houstonGD I am not sure if its only me but I cant find the (5/10) Battlefield II The Campaign in the Balkans Episode 3 (GDH) but I easily found 4/10 and 6/10..
Thanks for all the videos by the way you are fantastic.
Romania was supporting Germany with the Marshal Antonescu, and after that the king Carol II of Romania betrayed the Marshal Antonescu and he was sentenced to death, was executed by a communist firing squad.
Ion Victor Antonescu Chief of Staff and Minister of War of September 4, 1940 until August 23, 1944 was prime minister of Romania and "Leader State".
after some years the king Carol II of Romania was sent into exile by Comunists, he comes back to Romania in 1992.
@SS13E3 Yeah, I'm familiar with Paperclip. I mean the Nazis as a party and platform, not individual people who happened to be with them. Even that was controversial when it became public.
@barbelotta Adica, vrei sa spui Regele Mihai. SI Antonescu a fost un criminal de razboi, responsabil de macelarirea impreuna cu nemtii a 270000 de oameni! Asta ii sterge patriotismul!
This documentary was supposed to be about the Balkans campaign, but there's little about that campaign.
KevinByrne2 3 months ago
Cetniks and Ustase collaborating is a load of crap and anyone who knows any of Serbian/Croatian history will say the same. Cetniks were a Royalist Serbian army. They believed in Serbian nationalism and the king. Ustase exterminated half of million of Serbs in concentration camps during WW2. These 2 could never coexist because their mutual hatred was bigger than Cetniks hatred towards the Communists or Germans.
dmacid 6 months ago
@dmacid The Ustase were Fascist collaborators from the start. The Cetniks were in between; sometimes they fought the Germans, and sometimes they fought the Partisans. However, Tito's Partisans never collaborated with the Germans and were responsible for tying down the German armies in Yugoslavia.
leonenaj 2 weeks ago
@leonenaj Chetniks were never in between. Them fighting alongside Germans was a lie fabricated by the Parisans (commies) to get the support of England and US so they could take over once the war was over. The whole resistance movement in Yugoslavia was started by Chetniks and they were the first ones to inflict a defeat on Germans in 1941. However, Chetniks did fight the commies which opened them up to a 2 front war and resulted in their defeat in the end.
dmacid 2 weeks ago
@dmacid It's more like the enemy of my enemy is my friend. It would be like the Americans fighting the English while they were fighting the Germans. Instead of focusing their efforts on the Germans, the Cetniks fought the communists. So how is that not collaboration with the Germans? And don't even try to tell me of Cetnik victories over the Germans. They did nothing of note.
leonenaj 2 weeks ago
@leonenaj Cetniks saw both the Nazi and Commies as 2 separate evils looking to destroy their way of life. Cetniks were royalists, they believed in god and the king. Commies were their ideological enemies in every way imaginable. And so were Germans who occupied and tried to destroy Serbia. So they fought both at the same time. If you wanna look up Cetnik victories against the Nazi they were the first ones to stop a nazi motirized division and they also saved some 600 American pilots.
dmacid 2 weeks ago
@dmacid Ok, and the Germans organized 7 different Anti-partisan operations to get rid of Tito, and THEY STILL FAILED. Tito was tying down huge numbers of Axis troops with his rag tag army. The Cetniks' help to the anti-fascist cause was present, yet insignificant. You can also find pictures of Chetniks taking photos with Germans. You will never find a photo of a partisan doing this. Also, in perhaps the biggest battle of the balkan front, the cetniks supported the germans with 20,000 troops.
leonenaj 2 weeks ago
Not only distorted facts, it's called propaganda; as usual on the Propaganda channel.
NikNovi 9 months ago
ROFLMAO check out the beatnik at 4:10!
tjhoenecke 9 months ago
this is pretty questionable stuff regarding the SOE and the Chetniks, it is well documented now that alot of these accusations were made up by British double agents of the SOE who were communists
JerryKitich 1 year ago
@JerryKitich The Chetniks were supporting the fashists by giving away partisans and their families. The Ustashi were much worse because they actively killed for the Germans. Pretty much the only force fighting against the germans were the partisans led by Tito. Ironically, the SOE supported the Chetniks for some time.
leonenaj 11 months ago 2
@leonenaj The Chetniks were fighting the Nazis. The Chetniks were also fighting the communists; the Cold War statrted even before the very end of WW2. The Chetniks were not wrong; communism is the enemy. Unless you have actual sources to quote its not much of a debate; as I said British intelligence failures and double agents have distorted much. For example Chetniks saved over 500 downed Allied airmen and returned them to their forces; this is not what Nazi collaborators do.
JerryKitich 11 months ago
@leonenaj what would you do if some is pointing an rifle to your face and says "Shot him" ?
WCHooligans 7 months ago
It seems episode (5/10) is still viewed as 'distastful' in inter-European relations so it has 'vanished'..... three cheers for democracy and freedom of speech! Hurra, Hurra...etc
prunch72 1 year ago
Any chance you can get episode 5 back up? the MAN took it down it seems
pvthudson01 1 year ago
The poor Volkssturm, had no idea about the Soviet juggernaut heading there way
readynow12345 1 year ago
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YAHUSHUASFIRE 1 year ago
Was there really a Ministry of Propaganda? If they called it that and Goebels as Misnister of Propaganda then the people would think all he says are all propaganda.
carlojpf2 1 year ago
@houstonGD I am not sure if its only me but I cant find the (5/10) Battlefield II The Campaign in the Balkans Episode 3 (GDH) but I easily found 4/10 and 6/10..
Thanks for all the videos by the way you are fantastic.
carlojpf2 1 year ago
@carlojpf2 Me too.I can't find part 5/10
gently5210 1 year ago
@gently5210
I checked on Houston's channel it says Part 5 has been blocked because of copyright claims by NBC Universal! That's why Part 5 is not available.
A2Kaid 1 year ago
Romania was supporting Germany with the Marshal Antonescu, and after that the king Carol II of Romania betrayed the Marshal Antonescu and he was sentenced to death, was executed by a communist firing squad.
Ion Victor Antonescu Chief of Staff and Minister of War of September 4, 1940 until August 23, 1944 was prime minister of Romania and "Leader State".
after some years the king Carol II of Romania was sent into exile by Comunists, he comes back to Romania in 1992.
Marsha Antonescu HERO!
barbelotta 2 years ago
No one supporting the Nazis can be a hero, as rotten as the Soviets may have been.
Thornfox 2 years ago 2
@Thornfox
really? ever heard of operation paperclip?
SS13E3 1 year ago
@SS13E3 Yeah, I'm familiar with Paperclip. I mean the Nazis as a party and platform, not individual people who happened to be with them. Even that was controversial when it became public.
Thornfox 1 year ago
@barbelotta Adica, vrei sa spui Regele Mihai. SI Antonescu a fost un criminal de razboi, responsabil de macelarirea impreuna cu nemtii a 270000 de oameni! Asta ii sterge patriotismul!
brav0wing 8 months ago