OH MY GOD!!!! HOW CAN YOU ASSOCIATE THE ALMIGHTY WITH PARTNERS!!!
HOW CAN U SAY HE HAS GOT A SON!!!!!!!!!
THE ONLY REASON IRANIAN COVERT TO CHRISTIANITY BECAUSE ITS AN EASY RELIGION, YOU DONT HAVE TO DO MUCH WORK, NOT MUCH WORSHIP INVOLVED, JUST SING, AND GET NAKED, MIX MARRIED WOMEN WITH OTHER MARRIED MEN,.... WEAR WHAT YOU LIKE,,, HAVE A FEW PICTURES OF HOLY PEOPLE HERE AND THERE.,,, SORTED!!!
Stanley Villavincencio from city of Cebu in Philippines the newest evidence that Jesus is God and he offers his mercy to everyone, and the Lord told Stanley that everybody who refuses his mercy will have to face his judgment and nobody is righteous in front of God, what makes us righteous is Jesus precious blood, and if we are not washed by his blood we are in danger. If we receive Jesus mercy then we are justified before heavenly court, Jesus came on this world to offer his endless mercy.
ya remember when islam came across persia raped ur women converted by force and took all ur persian heritage away? im sure u do if u look back to ur history...
if u think that OTHER religion including islam is bullshit, try to make a comment about urself,, "did ur religion is the same as the way u said so?" Human lolz~~
Crime, chaos, all created by human....watever ur religion is, as a human, u got nothing to do with ur own religion, do not get to cocky if ur religion is good enough then try to fuck another religion...~sory 4 bad english~
Well said brother...Those fuckin muslims wanna follow a pedophile murderer prophet and put him above all prophets. Sick twisted man made religion creates blind sick followers.
It is sad that Iranians do not analyze our history properly to see what Arab animal has done to our nation & how this cult has been forced on our ancestors & turk animals closed the deal in forcing Iran into Islam.
@seanamico I've never heard it said like this before, wow, I give you credit for having "guts" to say something like what you said. But at the same time, we need to spread the word of God, hope, and pray for people of all nations to realize Jesus is "the Way, the Truth, and the Life." One day the people of Iran will rise up and be silent no more.
@rosiebeh, I am not Christian but our prophet foretold of Jesus coming & Iran had the second largest population of Christians before Iran & Rome had huge dispute between the kind & the Emperor of Rome & Christianity was stopped. I would like to see Christianity & Zartoshti faith to increase in Iran & get rid of Islam once in for all & these moslem monkey think people are afraid to speak against them or fight them.
People of Iran have spoken, they are rising up, it is only going to get worst.
@seanamico People think that they should blame Islam for the crap Iran is in right now. It is your own fault. The only way we can improve our country is to accept our inadequacies and move past them. Persians had a corrupt empire and Islam had true believers that liberated people. I am not a Muslim and I believe that all religions are a form of brainwashing but the ignorance of some people amazes me.
@AlborzJ, Please save me the nonsense, Islam is crap, it has done nothing but to put Iran, our culture, civilization back & if you cannot see the ignorant, pathetic teachings, laws that Mullah bastard have brought & enforce that is Islamic then you are blind. What you are telling me Arabs & Islam have not bee corrupt worst than any government in Irans past?
You are foolish if you think Islam did anything but to oppress, pillage Iran, they brought slavery & ignorance to a great nation.
@seanamico Brought millions of years ago. The current government is the work of Iranian people. Iran should stop blaming Arabs for our short comings. We brought them on ourselves so long ago and we brought the Islamic republic on ourselves too. Arab's were just smart enough to profit from it.
Alb, Nonsense, Government of Khomeini was funded, supported by US, UK & France that helped promote that bastard so they can remove the biggest threat in the Middle East, the Shah of Iran controlled oil prices was in charge of OPEC, he had a dangerous military, he was building three nuke facilities & Iran became a threat & he was removed, the war had to be started because Khomeini was to be assassinated, not having any army to support him they not only drained all the oil money but get oil cheap
@seanamico I have been exposed to propaganda from Islamic, Jewish, Western and Christian "worlds". That is why I think that all your views on god and religion are wrong.
@AlborzJ, My videos are all based on facts & if you take the time to read them properly you will see proof of what I have made. You just say it is wrong & that is it?
@seanamico No, I don't say that is wrong or right. The issue is that there is no wrong or right. There is no way for you to prove what your saying is wrong or right. The issue is that people sit here and bash other religions. If Christ makes your life better, then go with Christ. If any other religion works for you, then that is your route in life. Forcing your religion or creating make believe stories about other groups like Mohamed molested children or stereotyping makes you ignorant fools.
@AlborzJ, I make my videos based on reality & facts with proper historian, not just mumble & say it is wrong without facts, when you can do that then you can argue your point until then save it.
I have no intention to press my agenda or religion on anyone as Islam has for 1400 years & will force anyone born with Islamic family into this cult & only way out is death, so spare me your teachings. I am not Christian & never shoved it on anyone either.
b. Assuming that it was, there is no historical significance to it or any point on it that relates to history, it is a promotion
c. I responded to some of the fucked up comments on the video. I have and do not have anything against this video.
d. You need to read into the history of church and what they did in the name of Christ, It had nothing to do with the way of the Christ. It was people's interpretation of it and manipulation for power. Same for Islam.
@AlborzJ, Listen you made comments on my video and challenge my intelligence of what I have made. I know history extremely well, I know all that Christians have done & in the name of god. Difference between Islam & Christianity to start is Jesus was not an animal, or barbarian or forced anyone to his religion, his followers after hundreds of years that accepted Christianity were Roman & just kept what they were & changed the religion of state. Followers of Muhammad just following his teachings.
@seanamico I am challenging you to think. I have nothing against you promoting your religion. You should be allowed to do so. What I am against, is people mixing different things together. Spirituality, politics and economy are all factors that create the image of the Muslim that you have in your mind. You and all who comment on this bashing a religion and way of life should sit back and think. I am not a Muslim. I don't even believe god in the sense that you believe in god.
@AlborzJ However, your way is not the only "correct" way. If that is what you think, then Christians are the same animals that used to burn women for being witches and throw women in the river to prove that they are not witches.
@seanamico I went to Muslim religion privet school in Iran as well as an international school. I am minoring in Eastern philosophy and religion. You resent Islam without any understanding of it. You developed a hate for it because being affiliated with Islam made you an outsider amongst your friends. To study something means to look at from a neutral point of view.
ps. Your mom isn't too bright, otherwise she would have used protection =)
@AlborzJ, Listen your Kooso Shehr may work on others & you think you can phsyco analyze my thoughts but you can, you dont know me or even asked me why. This is not just about hating Islam and I have no affiliation with Islam
@AlborzJ, HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, please tell me what religion have I ever promoted? Can you tell me where I have posted or promoted my religion? Do you even know what religion I follow?
I bash on Islam because I know it very well, I have studied Islamic history nearly 3 decades and know the lies that is spread by Muslims. I was raised in an Islamic nation & half my family is Muslim.
Spare me what you dont know & understand, you ( ASS U ME) too much.
@AlborzJ Ya islam liberated ppl by the sword and forced conversians and raping their women. Mohammed was a military leader not a prophet he used God to get his way becuz he knew ppl would fear God. This why at the end of almost every verse in the quraan it ends with something like"God is most powerful and wise" "God knows all"etc. so this way ppl would not question the absurd writings but to make them believe that they are from God. Dont question it just believe it.. That is islam.
@ouwat4life Christianity was the same. Rember all the people that were killed in the name of god? All the women that were burned to death because they were witches? In recent years, Christianity was falling off the map so they found a new approach to manipulation, the all loving god. The truth is that we were all developed from Monkeys. Go read a bunch of books on evolution and tell me if you can believe a religion.
@hannahr77 Jesus might not have done so but his follower did it in his name. Religions were a form of governing people. There out dated and they contribute to much of the ignorance that is part of societies all around the world. Even if they came from god, they are being abused. If I was a all power being, I wouldn't care about what smaller living things did. Even if there is a god, he wouldn't be concerned with what you do or who you fuck. Just saying.
Think of the Trinity like this : The Head, the Body and the Hand.. What the Head thinks the body will react and the hand will accomplish what the head has told its body. Head - God, Body- Jesus and the hands - Holy Spirit.
I agree with you totally. if we submit to the Lord and be obedient to Him we will be saved. but we all have missed. you and me and every one on this planet. we have come short of His pefect standards. Now what? I have broken His law and i am condemned. and I know God is Holy and Just, let me add perfect(absolute)holy and just and that means my transgressions and sins can not be ignored. can his hollines and mercy contridict His pefect nature? how is this solved in your beielf?
i personally believe that Christianity is not a monotheistic religion. i have my friends who go worship jesus and totally forget god.. so what happened to worshiping the ONe god alone?
Thank you for your comment. i should say Christian faith is a monotheistic religion, as the apostles have proclaimed and as we see it is continuation of jewish faith and beliefs. Jesus Is the Only One God, He is God incarnated to be able to provide atonement for our sins. to satisfy His holy wrath which has revealed because of His His just character. but i know where you are coming from...understanding the trinity has always been trouble for many .
the point where we get to disagreement is in the way we understand the character and essence of God. How we define God is the part most dont comprehend. in trinity we still confess One God alone. but it is as well proclaimed this God which is one in essence is three in person. which these three persons are One in essence. and it is not in contradiction in reason. as we know if we say A is A and none A in the same meaning and in the same relationship it will certainly be a contradiction.
it is as if we say He is three in person and three in essence. instead we say He is One in essence and three in persons. there is unity in His essence and diversity in as well. as we see it universe, we see it in our being. which we can truly say we are reflection of His being.
therefore when we say Jesus is God we dont mean He is just man elevated to such a high divine level. but we believe He is the only True God incarnated, He is the second person of the trinity. so when we worship Jesus we dont worship man but God almighty .
hi there yup. its true and i want to add, the trinity is a way of God to communicate with his creation, God always make covenant with man, in Old Test the he is called the Father of isreal, in New Test as Jesus, and now present day Holy Spirit, modern day commnication with God is through Holy Spirit the act of the covenant is the baptism, and my dear payambar, what you did is the act of Holy spirit..and rejoice for Jesus is the living God..
@payambar Well said brother we all know God is ONE but that doesnt mean he is one person.God is big God is almighty he can be anything he want. Muslims cant look past the cingular word just cuz a word is cingular doesnt mean its limited to one being or one of anything. The universe the word is cingular and there is one universe but how many things are inside that universe? Look how compliacted the universe is& we can never understand it does that mean God its creator is less complicated then it?
This is what Jesus will tell you my Christian friends in his return,
Matt 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
[23] And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Do you know why he will tell you this, coz you don't say in the name of God instead you say in the name of Jesus. wake up and re- read the Bible.
It is interesting that an Afghani (judging by your nickname) that has suffered mostly from the backward religions to convert to christatianity and believe all the fairy tales given to you in the your bible. The fairy tales and disgusting storied given to you in bible.
Believing that God .. the pure God needs to sleep with a woman and create a son and then sacrifice this son insteat of a lamb just to be able to forgive ..?
Cant you think really how stupid this idea is? Just use your head once
the concept of 72 virgins is as stupid as the concept of God coming down to earth and fucking someone elses wife and having a son and killing his own son on the cross because this God loves the people. Dont you really use your brain? Why God the creator of the universe needs to do such a stupid thing in order to forgive sins? Dont you think this is bullshit? Dont you think God is a lot more perfect to do such stupid thing?
The god your bible teaches even killed all animals because a few sin
Do you really think that the creator of heaven and earth needs an animal sacrifice or the sacrifice of his own son in order to be able to forgive? What kind of God is this? A maniac God you introduce is nothing but the product of some backward semitic tribes. Barbaric product of low intelligence tribes living in desert. That is the God you worship. The God that orders people to "stone" those who work in Sabbat. The God who kills elderly and children and animals because he is angry at sinne
or the concept about ur scumbag married an 8 yr old girl just coz he wants to make her "blessed" (haha)... and married the soldier's wives who went to war and spread the word of islam by sword ... so basically ur prophet married like 300 or 400?? more?? .. trust there are more weird shit about islam...
And all what you said makes christianity right? A God coming down and sleeping with a woman (someones wife) and making a son and then killing the son to be able to forgive sins? Are you kidding?
Your God once killed even animals because he was so ANGRY of a bunch of people who sinned (read this nonsense in Naoh Strom in bible).
Open your disgusting book read it and see what kind of junk is fed to you by a bunch of guitar playing mullahs ..
haha you muslims are soo funny ... you can say whatever u wanna say .. i still think islam is a scumbag religion which wants world domination by forcing ppl into islam .. thats what mohammad (cum be upon him) said ... i just hope u die and go to heaven to meet your 72 hairy virgins ... hahahaha
"I hope u die and go to heaven to meet ...72 hairy virgins..." Thank you for your good wish
I pray that you also go to heaven my Stupid American friend. Afterall you believe in such stupid ideas yourself. But make sure you dont reincarnaet as one of those "hairy virgins" given to one of these ARABs. I bet you wont have too much fun ..
WOW! What a deep knowledge. What a logic. (LOL). No wonder why your kind become Chrisitian and belive in all bull.. fed to you by christianity. It takes a retard to believe in such nonsense my friend. (LOL)
muslims dont believe that jesus died on the cross God saved him becuz he wouldnt let a great prophet die but when u show them this verse from their own quraan they suddenly change their mind. sura 19:33. "So peace is on me the day I was born, the day that I die, and the day that I shall be raised up to life (again)"!
difference is jesus taught to love ur enemy and turn the other cheeck on the other hand mohammed taught eye for an eye and to hate ur enemy with a pssion. thats the difference buddy
@ouwat4life Is that why you call Muslim's retarded and pedophiles? I think your full of contradicting crap. I see so much love in your comments "brother".
@AlborzJ And i wasnt calling muslims pedophiles just their prophet. U know the story about aisha the 6 year old girl he took for a wife when he was at the age of 55?
@ouwat4life Their stories that could be made up. I can make one about Jesus at any time I feel like it and tell a bunch of people. It will circulate around like crack. Either way, it is a belief that a group of people have. I respect their beliefs even if I don't agree with it. We can all live happily if we have a little respect and courtesy for each other.
@AlborzJ Ok we are trying to live happily too and love even our enemies while muslims are taught to hate kill and curse ur enemies. Its islam that attacked our religion when they denied the very beliefs that our religion is based on. They denied the son of God they denied his pre exsistence before coming in the flesh and they denied his crucifction and ressurection and they say "oh we respect jesus too". Dont compare the two.
@AlborzJ Yes, you can spread a story about Jesus and I would not stand in your way friend. If the story honors Jesus, it will spread. Go for it brother!
Jesus, I ask for you to bless AlborzJ with abundant life and joy that he does not have. Please make yourself known to him, not as a forerunner of Muhammad, but as the Mighty God, the Everlasting Father, the Prince of Peace! Reveal yourself to him Jesus. Thank you for hearing me Jesus.
yes we know that priest molest little children and we also know that imams are doing just the same, the difference here is that we don't approve, whereas in islam it's the norm because that's what muhammad did and muslims are to emulate muhammad
Your comment is spot on; Yahweh (khodavanda) doesn't need either sacrifice or to kill his son, but he is just and righteous and never lies (unlike Allah al makr) and when Satan the accuser demands justice against humans, Yeshua was sent to take our punishment - get it? It is actually elegantly logical. The Gospel is beautiful like that. God has wiped out those at times who were part of an ongoing cycle of cruelty - you need to judge your creator like a vet who puts an animal out of it's misery.
One of the worst religions of the world is christianity. A backward fairy tale book of the tribal ignorance of some semite tribes of three thousand years ago. Just open bible and read it when bible orders you to kill to massacre to destroy to rape to sacrifice ..
Such a barbaric book ant they are trying to attract others to their backward religion
Dear friend, since the fall of human race into sin, the creator has laid out a rescue plan which is unfolded step by step, stage by stage over times, until it is finally reveal in the Son of God, Jesus Christ who was offered as sacrifice for the sins of the human race. And whosoever believe in Him shall not perish but have eternal life. Many many many people have found this truth and believe in it - this very truth has set us free to enjoy life as the beloved children of God.
Dear friend ... you may LIKE to believe your bible is the word of God. All what you said woudl be beautiful if they were not the stories given to you by your pastors or priests. Open your bilbe and read it. It is not the "consistent plan of rescue unfolding step by step" as you like to believe. Bible is a book full of nonsense .. full of hatred.. full of hate against the others. What do you call a revengeful God who kills everyone in Noah storm when a few sinned. What do you call a God who
What do you call a God that kicks out Adam out of heaven because Adams started to KNOW ...? What do you call a God who is jealous of his own creature and when God sees people have one language and cooperate with each other, he creates different language to divide them? (this is the God that is introduced by your so called holy bible) Open your bible and read all this. How do you call such God a god of love? I am amazed how can you stretch the bible so much to change the clear message of hate
i had posted those above: the context of John 8:24 says. .... az in jahat be shoma goftam ke dar gonahane khod khahid mord, zira agar bavar nakonid ke MAN HASTAM, dar gonahane khoda khahid mord ...John8:58: Amen amen be shoma migooyam ke pish az anke ebrahim peyda shavad MAN HASTAM"
HAHAHA LOLLLLLLLLLL YOU CHEATING WITH YOUR OWN BOOK ? AND YOUR OWN GOD AND YOUR OWN FAITH ? LOLLLLLLL YOU JUST LIED YOU DID NOT POST THE WHOLE JOHN 54-58 , YOU ONLY POSTED 58 WHEN HE SAYS IAM LOLLLL, LOSERRRRRRRRRR,i`ll give you he whol verse what he said ok cheater ? did you know in whole bible these verses are my most favourit verses ? coz these verses are very amazing lol ,
you know , i wonder why you knowing your gof doent not change your personality and life to good and all you recieve from that god is hatered and bitternes. knowin God is knowing love and respect and thats all of you lack(once you experice Christ and His love and i see many iranians you will experice this great change in your life. salvation salvatio salvation , this is all we need and not just a a corrupted sinful limitted understanding if a sinful human about holy God.
you are talking about the most important subject in the whole univers and yet i get the feeling that you treat that like a child treats the life. are we in a competition or there is a contest to be won. this is matter of life and death. this is you eternal life and not being funny and laughing and mocking. have you grasp the seriousness of the matter? i guess not...
wheres that love when they taking their life of depression ? wheres that god and that love when they commiting insis ? wheres that love when a priest malesting a kid ? you call that life ? you all should commit suicide lol
The love is payambars responses, the hate is clearly in yours. Christianity allows it's people to make a personal choice if they want to serve God. So those who choose not to we see their fall manifested in this life as you mentioned(suicide, lust, sin)
haha is that why all muslims drownd in sin , by commiting insist with their daughters and mothers ? look at your christian civilisation , who has the highest ratesof suicide ? prostitution, peadaphelia, abortion , gambling , drug use , adultry, rape, drunkkards, robery , murders, divorce rates, infact in america the suicide rates in weman 31% now wheres the love of your "loving god " ? looks like that god only loves muslims , coz muslims do not commit any of those crimes ,
well can you reason ? i reason with you if you reason ok ? you lost the debate by failing to proof eisa pbuh to be god as you calling him ok,, now you building your religion with love ? so give the prove of that love ? where is it ? you can not tell me god loves you in whole christians under the shade of gods love while whole your christins are killing themselvs lolll
coz following something so blindly , you are stupid and you are a khar i can say that , coz its my first time i spoke to my own persian nation and i found them to be khar !when i said you are khar and i proved my claim that you are all khar , didnt i ? then give answer to my questions i will take my claim back and apologize ?
i am laughing coz you are laughable , your lie`s are laughable , your book is laughable , your claiming eisa to be god is laughable , then when you fail ? you builed your religion by another big lie "love " while you dont have it lolll ,shwa me where is that love while your ppl killing themselves ? thats why i said that shoma hama kharen ,
in noway do we claim that eisa to be GOD, we claim JESUS CHRIST to be GOD, eisa is the fake imaginary JESUS the SON of Miriyam not the real SON OF GOD, and I do pray that one day you'll se HIM hopefully when your saved, AMEN
The oppressed will be like white washed tombs beautiful on the outside but inside they are already dead. some if given a choice they would not love God. But ramosay I forgive you for your attacks and the one you will respond with. God bless you and may His truth touch your heart
please check the bible online and i hope you understand that i can not type the whole chapter in farsi in this little tiny space. it 59 verses. and i hope you dont take this as a step back :)) read this and i will be glad to answer all your questions one at a time ( if you want to get a complete answer and get a conclusion) do not hurry. take your time and take a deep breath and lets review the text
when eisa pbuh says if i honour myself my honour is NOTHING , it is my father that honoured me , of whom you call "GOD " NOW WHO DID THE JEWS CALLED GOD TO ?? ,,,,,JESUS ? DID THE JEWS CALLED GOD TO JESUS ?
PS. for your information Farsi and english translations are direct translation of Greek manuscripts as the New Testamnt had been written. so do know expect to find anything less than Godship of Jesus Christ in Farsi.
PS. i do know need to prove something that is already obivious and my personal opinions are worthless , this is what Bible the word of God teaches
and i do know engage in debates, i just want to share love and Lords salvation. if you are wise you will consider it or as you wish you chose your destiny. in any case shalom to you
HAHAHAHA you lost loser , you know and i know that you can NOT answer my questions lollllll and you know if you give me the whole context of john 8 , it says hole different story , as i said you failed to answer my questions or prove your book and faith to be true , and eisa is not your god , go find yourself that god which roman`s and greeks use to worship ok ,, eisa is an muslim payamber , not your god ,,
daer friend you dont evern know the principles of a regular debate and cant even dipute my sayings.. seems like you are more into child play than a serious discussion. u have the text i gave you and you have my reseaning uopn that , but i belive you have failed to dispute it with a legitimate come back and instead you took the position of many people who are from other faith and that is making fun when they aer stuck. you have the bible and the verse as i posted. do some thinking
and since you are not a honest seeker and just a fighter, i bevelive you have made up yuor mind already. and with ur dogmatic way of thinking you will not learn anything.
for your own sake for the sake of eternal life be honest with yourslef and read the bible. Do not miss out the prcsious salvation and remission of sins.
and as you said jesus said "iam " and also in exodus "god "says to muses iam ,,will that makes him to be god ? did god said iam jesus ?or did jesus said iam god ? answer this i dare you ?
well tell me if i dont know , can you inlight me more about your precouse book andreligion please ? i asked you did eisa died as man or as god ? but you avoiding answering my question , and you also avoid posting the verses of john 8 with persian translation why ? and why you say you did posted ? post me in persian the whole john 8 in persian ?i dare you ? and answer my question did eisa died as man or as god ?
oh i am gald to do so....i guess you are not familir with the bible at all. i recomand you to read the book of john. check john chapter 8 verses 24, 58 where he says " I AM" since i am sure if yuo are not familiar with the new testament you will not be familiar with that where this "I AM" comes from. so then check Exodus 3: 14 where God introduces to moses as " I AM"
you can check John5: 17 where jews wanted to stone him cause he says He is God.where he reveales He is the found of sabbath
first of all i asked 2 few questions and you failed to answer it , lol,, now please post me that john 8 when jesus said i am ? coz the context is far different , you can not prove him to be god no matter what ok ?
if you have not recieved a specific answer (even though i answered) it is because you have asked a veg question. the context of John 8:24 says. .... az in jahat be shoma goftam ke dar gonahane khod khahid mord, zira agar bavar nakonid ke MAN HASTAM, dar gonahane khoda khahid mord ...John8:58: Amen amen be shoma migooyam ke pish az anke ebrahim peyda shavad MAN HASTAM"
to know more about the early church history you need to start reading some rtue historical books and know more about the theology of early church as well as jewish faith. Do not let others detrmine your faith and the way of thinking. get yourslef familiar with earlu church faith and you will understand that none sence about greet mythology. it is just because yuo have heard and do know have first hand research and study. that is the problem of our people. Iranians.
i know more then you i guess, coz you reading bible as word of god , i read it to find what christians trying to represent in it is true or false ? i chalenge you to give me one verse from persian bible coz im sick of english bible , that he said IM GOD OR HE SAID TO WORSHIP ME ?
i have read the Quran, just like how you read the bible, and yes, Quran is all knowing, can answer everything the Dalil is there, what i think..is it true yes, Quran have the proof, but did i found God, no,..i just felt scared, not loved..God in the Quran is great, all-powerfull, but i don see his mercy. we christian believe in Living God, he is still comunicating with us to the present day through the Holy Spirit in the covenant of baptism the result is salvation..love is the greatest gift..
Quran is the book of fear, its prophet spread his message with death & fear tactics, how much of it is Abrahamic, only what is plagaiarized, the rest is rubbish.
and what good is it to talk about him and to claim to be a someone who knows about him when you dont belong to Him and do know have relationship with him? knowing about God is not as same as haveing relationship and walking with Him. Satan knows about God too as bible says....and as so many people do.
second question , did massih died as a man or as god ? if you say he died as a man ? but your bible says A MAN CAN NOT TAKE THE SIN OF OTHER MAN RIGHT ? but if you say he died as a "god " ? BUT YOUR BIBLE SAYS A "GOD " CAN NOT DIE COZ GOD IS EVERLIVING ETERNAL RIGHT ?
do you know where the problem begins? your defention of God is not of the bible. and the qutoations you just posted is no where to be found. it is just a made up words and not existing in the bible. Do you think God is unable to do anything he says in the bible? Why do you limit God by your limited definition of Him and how can you know and define God when you dont have the spirit of God? thos who have the spitit of God will know God as bible promises.
way before greek civilization develop their myth that some think thats where Christ comes from, Bible explains the reality of His existance and His relation to the cosmos and people.and that is recorderd in the book of Gensis all the way to the prohecies of prophets prior to Jesus entering the world. the problem raises when we dont know about jewish faith and connection of Christ to that. we ignore that faith in Christ is extension of faith of Jwes.
Migan har kasi shabie khodayee mishe ke miparastand. take your time va pmhaye masihian ra ke hamash ba mohabat ast bekhoon va pm haye azizane adyan dige ra ke hamash fosh midan...
well, i believe you are not familiar with Christian theology. Christian theology never believes in half humand half God. That is a light concept that non-christians have developed, but one you know the core of theology you will know this never existed in church history.
aaya shoma mantigh dareen ? massih goft beparastin khodayee ke man meparastam ? man ferestadeh va payamber khoda hastam , va khoda be man ketab ataa karde va man ra be shoma payaber intekhab karde , ayya shoma be qudrat e khoda ke qaader be hama chiz hast shak e daareen ? aaya shoma feker mikoneen aon khoda qader ba peda kardan e adam bedoon e mard nist ?
it the same as if u say god is a human or is a man dnt change ur rilligioun like a fake how u say jesus is son of god plz idnt whanna say something and u get upset just plz o times go and read quran is a one part is called maryam plz read all of them and ur face will be like a ed colour cus iu say god has a child or he is father omy gash how?
oh thats bad pesareye yegane?o man guys that is sinc if u say son of god cus god isnt human and he can do everything whatever god dnt have a child and he didn born and he didnt creat thats abseloutly wrong god can do every thing r u forgot an adam which was an nothing for him and e made adam from the soil guys god dnt like dis if u say jesus son of god believe me and even jesus crist dnt like him aswell if u say jesus is son of god o my gash how dnt answer me just think if it waslike dis
BIBLE IS NOT THE WORD OF GOD... the BOOK you call bible today is work of uneducated men, who did not know how universe was created. who thought earth is the center of universe and does not move and who were inconsistent in their writings.
Christ for Iran ... My friend, evangelical christianity has already sent its "message of pace" to Iraq and Afghanistan by bombs and missiles. Hopefully Iranians receive a different message from such American Style peace mission.
if you check couple posts above you will find me the very first respond i have given you regarding the debate. if you wish you can read and listen to it (and there is something to be reached here it is requeired to stick to the discussed topic and not wonder around)
if you associate those events to christianity then its obvious that you are looking to man(or nation) as the unadulterated depiction of the Jesus Christ of the Christian faith, unfortunately we pray that our world would see the truth of the gospel of Jesus but it has not
I associate those events to evangelical christianity as a major political force responsible for mobilizing the lagest military machine in human history against a couple of countries in the middle east.
My friend, there is no "general hatred" on my side. However, if you set aside your bias and do some research online even in your own christian library you will see what Evangelical christianity advocates. War, War against nations specifically war against Iranian nation. The role of evangelical christianity in starting two wars in Afghanistan and Iraq is not deniable. My friend just do some research.
How can God limit himself in the tribal comptetion of ignorant people of 3000 years ago. How can God, the creator makes mistakes geographical mistakes. I would give you specific refrences from bible if you like.
would you like to go through this? i will be happy to answer this questions. I will answer to all of your questions, BUT one by one, and i'd like to answer it completely, do not want to leave any thing out.if you agree, i shall answer the very first question you asked."You dont belive that bible is inspired word of God" and then the jelousy subject you raised and then the rest. are we on?
Sure lets do it. But I have a request. I am not christian so I do not accept anything blindly only because I am told to. I cannot accept anything unless it makes sense. If you agree with this, I really like to understand the stand of a christian on such illogical issues I see in bible.
to start the first part of our debate, i am including an audio link so you can listen to part of my dialouge about why i believe Bible is inspired word of God. the reason i didnt write is because you tube wont let me write enough
What happened to your invitation to talk about the so called "bible" and the eveangelical take on such "word of God".
What happened? Are you convinced that it is better to keep people ignorant and do not show them what really bible is about. Do you want to keep those u decieve in total darkness? Why do you stop talking about the barbaric verses of your so called "book of God"?
Can some of these Christians tell me why God needed blood to be able to forgive the sins of humans. Couldnt he forgive without seeing a death animal sacrificed or seeing his own son dying. Such a God you christians belive needs some serious sessions of therapy.
Well That a myth, saying that god loved human being and wanted to wash their oroginal father s sin(Adam and Eve) by blood of his beloved son so they could have the opportunity to return to the human perfection one day,but the funny thing is that this issue doesnt make it unbelievable at all, there are many contradiction between Christians and their beliefs which if u ask them at the end of the day there is no answer for those questions
the very first one is that if u dont believe in jesus christ u would never be blessed and i think that s what puts a difference between people and is the root for further prosecutions as we ve faced in middle ages if there is a god and if that the highest perfectness he or she wouldnt put a difference among what he or she created
OH MY GOD!!!! HOW CAN YOU ASSOCIATE THE ALMIGHTY WITH PARTNERS!!!
HOW CAN U SAY HE HAS GOT A SON!!!!!!!!!
THE ONLY REASON IRANIAN COVERT TO CHRISTIANITY BECAUSE ITS AN EASY RELIGION, YOU DONT HAVE TO DO MUCH WORK, NOT MUCH WORSHIP INVOLVED, JUST SING, AND GET NAKED, MIX MARRIED WOMEN WITH OTHER MARRIED MEN,.... WEAR WHAT YOU LIKE,,, HAVE A FEW PICTURES OF HOLY PEOPLE HERE AND THERE.,,, SORTED!!!
PERSIANCAT88 11 months ago
IRAN IS OLDER THAN ''JESUS'' 10,000 YEAR OLDER
LIVED LIKE ''HUMAN DIED LIKE HUMAN
KILLED BY HIS OWN CREATION .. GOD KILLED BY PEOPLE HAA HAA HAA
moghuls 1 year ago
ISLAM IS WHERE ''GOD'' KILLS PEOPLE CREATION
CHRISTANITY IS WHERE ''MAN'' KILLED ''GOD'' THE CREATOR HAAHAA
moghuls 1 year ago
Stanley Villavincencio from city of Cebu in Philippines the newest evidence that Jesus is God and he offers his mercy to everyone, and the Lord told Stanley that everybody who refuses his mercy will have to face his judgment and nobody is righteous in front of God, what makes us righteous is Jesus precious blood, and if we are not washed by his blood we are in danger. If we receive Jesus mercy then we are justified before heavenly court, Jesus came on this world to offer his endless mercy.
austriaheute 1 year ago
believe in god, reject ALL religion as false, and set yourself free!
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
GOD SO LOVE IRAN!
phillipgaley 1 year ago
Praise the Lord ! Jesus loves everyone including the great people of Iran
jayrank101 2 years ago
Let us amplify the greatness of Christ Jesus among the Iranians. Mo, a former Muslim but now a bond slave of Jesus.
moerfani 2 years ago 2
Jesus = Lord
JesusOrMuhammad 2 years ago 3
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I am a proud Iranian Muslim....Islam #1
SaracenWarrior 2 years ago
ya remember when islam came across persia raped ur women converted by force and took all ur persian heritage away? im sure u do if u look back to ur history...
ouwat4life 2 years ago
if u think that OTHER religion including islam is bullshit, try to make a comment about urself,, "did ur religion is the same as the way u said so?" Human lolz~~
Crime, chaos, all created by human....watever ur religion is, as a human, u got nothing to do with ur own religion, do not get to cocky if ur religion is good enough then try to fuck another religion...~sory 4 bad english~
molpoint1991 2 years ago
Islam is a crock of shit, not just bullshit but shit itself, not worth the papaer you waste Arabic words on.
Islam came by the sword by an animal Arab with an army to back him up, no other prophet came like an animal & force anyone to convert.
Show me where any monoethistic prophet did as Muhammad did. Dont go showing me people or kings, stick to the main question.
You learned your religion from Persians that were forced into Islam & Indiands that were forced & droped this shit cult of death
seanamico 2 years ago 3
islam is p-i-g... if they dont get p-i-g they want war...
mainufo 2 years ago
Well said brother...Those fuckin muslims wanna follow a pedophile murderer prophet and put him above all prophets. Sick twisted man made religion creates blind sick followers.
ouwat4life 2 years ago
Arab=scum
Islam=Cult
Muhammad=mass murdering pedophile
It is sad that Iranians do not analyze our history properly to see what Arab animal has done to our nation & how this cult has been forced on our ancestors & turk animals closed the deal in forcing Iran into Islam.
times are changing & Islam in Iran is going down.
seanamico 2 years ago 3
@seanamico I've never heard it said like this before, wow, I give you credit for having "guts" to say something like what you said. But at the same time, we need to spread the word of God, hope, and pray for people of all nations to realize Jesus is "the Way, the Truth, and the Life." One day the people of Iran will rise up and be silent no more.
rosiebeh7 1 year ago
@rosiebeh, I am not Christian but our prophet foretold of Jesus coming & Iran had the second largest population of Christians before Iran & Rome had huge dispute between the kind & the Emperor of Rome & Christianity was stopped. I would like to see Christianity & Zartoshti faith to increase in Iran & get rid of Islam once in for all & these moslem monkey think people are afraid to speak against them or fight them.
People of Iran have spoken, they are rising up, it is only going to get worst.
seanamico 1 year ago 2
@seanamico People think that they should blame Islam for the crap Iran is in right now. It is your own fault. The only way we can improve our country is to accept our inadequacies and move past them. Persians had a corrupt empire and Islam had true believers that liberated people. I am not a Muslim and I believe that all religions are a form of brainwashing but the ignorance of some people amazes me.
AlborzJ 1 year ago
@AlborzJ, Please save me the nonsense, Islam is crap, it has done nothing but to put Iran, our culture, civilization back & if you cannot see the ignorant, pathetic teachings, laws that Mullah bastard have brought & enforce that is Islamic then you are blind. What you are telling me Arabs & Islam have not bee corrupt worst than any government in Irans past?
You are foolish if you think Islam did anything but to oppress, pillage Iran, they brought slavery & ignorance to a great nation.
seanamico 1 year ago 2
@seanamico Brought millions of years ago. The current government is the work of Iranian people. Iran should stop blaming Arabs for our short comings. We brought them on ourselves so long ago and we brought the Islamic republic on ourselves too. Arab's were just smart enough to profit from it.
AlborzJ 1 year ago
Alb, Nonsense, Government of Khomeini was funded, supported by US, UK & France that helped promote that bastard so they can remove the biggest threat in the Middle East, the Shah of Iran controlled oil prices was in charge of OPEC, he had a dangerous military, he was building three nuke facilities & Iran became a threat & he was removed, the war had to be started because Khomeini was to be assassinated, not having any army to support him they not only drained all the oil money but get oil cheap
seanamico 1 year ago
@AlborzJ, You dont know much do you. Just western propaganda.
seanamico 1 year ago
@seanamico I have been exposed to propaganda from Islamic, Jewish, Western and Christian "worlds". That is why I think that all your views on god and religion are wrong.
AlborzJ 1 year ago
@AlborzJ, My videos are all based on facts & if you take the time to read them properly you will see proof of what I have made. You just say it is wrong & that is it?
seanamico 1 year ago
@seanamico No, I don't say that is wrong or right. The issue is that there is no wrong or right. There is no way for you to prove what your saying is wrong or right. The issue is that people sit here and bash other religions. If Christ makes your life better, then go with Christ. If any other religion works for you, then that is your route in life. Forcing your religion or creating make believe stories about other groups like Mohamed molested children or stereotyping makes you ignorant fools.
AlborzJ 1 year ago
@AlborzJ, I make my videos based on reality & facts with proper historian, not just mumble & say it is wrong without facts, when you can do that then you can argue your point until then save it.
I have no intention to press my agenda or religion on anyone as Islam has for 1400 years & will force anyone born with Islamic family into this cult & only way out is death, so spare me your teachings. I am not Christian & never shoved it on anyone either.
Muhammad is a pedophile, he was a murderer.
seanamico 1 year ago
@seanamico
a. This is not your video
b. Assuming that it was, there is no historical significance to it or any point on it that relates to history, it is a promotion
c. I responded to some of the fucked up comments on the video. I have and do not have anything against this video.
d. You need to read into the history of church and what they did in the name of Christ, It had nothing to do with the way of the Christ. It was people's interpretation of it and manipulation for power. Same for Islam.
AlborzJ 1 year ago
@AlborzJ, Listen you made comments on my video and challenge my intelligence of what I have made. I know history extremely well, I know all that Christians have done & in the name of god. Difference between Islam & Christianity to start is Jesus was not an animal, or barbarian or forced anyone to his religion, his followers after hundreds of years that accepted Christianity were Roman & just kept what they were & changed the religion of state. Followers of Muhammad just following his teachings.
seanamico 1 year ago
@seanamico I am challenging you to think. I have nothing against you promoting your religion. You should be allowed to do so. What I am against, is people mixing different things together. Spirituality, politics and economy are all factors that create the image of the Muslim that you have in your mind. You and all who comment on this bashing a religion and way of life should sit back and think. I am not a Muslim. I don't even believe god in the sense that you believe in god.
AlborzJ 1 year ago
@AlborzJ However, your way is not the only "correct" way. If that is what you think, then Christians are the same animals that used to burn women for being witches and throw women in the river to prove that they are not witches.
AlborzJ 1 year ago
@AlborzJ, Sorry your not too bright are you.
seanamico 1 year ago
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AlborzJ 1 year ago
@seanamico I went to Muslim religion privet school in Iran as well as an international school. I am minoring in Eastern philosophy and religion. You resent Islam without any understanding of it. You developed a hate for it because being affiliated with Islam made you an outsider amongst your friends. To study something means to look at from a neutral point of view.
ps. Your mom isn't too bright, otherwise she would have used protection =)
AlborzJ 1 year ago
@AlborzJ, Listen your Kooso Shehr may work on others & you think you can phsyco analyze my thoughts but you can, you dont know me or even asked me why. This is not just about hating Islam and I have no affiliation with Islam
seanamico 1 year ago
@AlborzJ, HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, please tell me what religion have I ever promoted? Can you tell me where I have posted or promoted my religion? Do you even know what religion I follow?
I bash on Islam because I know it very well, I have studied Islamic history nearly 3 decades and know the lies that is spread by Muslims. I was raised in an Islamic nation & half my family is Muslim.
Spare me what you dont know & understand, you ( ASS U ME) too much.
seanamico 1 year ago
@AlborzJ Ya islam liberated ppl by the sword and forced conversians and raping their women. Mohammed was a military leader not a prophet he used God to get his way becuz he knew ppl would fear God. This why at the end of almost every verse in the quraan it ends with something like"God is most powerful and wise" "God knows all"etc. so this way ppl would not question the absurd writings but to make them believe that they are from God. Dont question it just believe it.. That is islam.
ouwat4life 1 year ago
@ouwat4life Christianity was the same. Rember all the people that were killed in the name of god? All the women that were burned to death because they were witches? In recent years, Christianity was falling off the map so they found a new approach to manipulation, the all loving god. The truth is that we were all developed from Monkeys. Go read a bunch of books on evolution and tell me if you can believe a religion.
AlborzJ 1 year ago
@AlborzJ
nowhere do you find JESUS telling HIS followers to kill in HIS name whereas in islam that's what the god of islam demand his followers to do
hannahr77 1 year ago
@hannahr77 Jesus might not have done so but his follower did it in his name. Religions were a form of governing people. There out dated and they contribute to much of the ignorance that is part of societies all around the world. Even if they came from god, they are being abused. If I was a all power being, I wouldn't care about what smaller living things did. Even if there is a god, he wouldn't be concerned with what you do or who you fuck. Just saying.
AlborzJ 1 year ago
@hannahr77 You need to read into the history of the church.
AlborzJ 1 year ago
@AlborzJ
Why would I do that I believe in a living loving GOD even if the church would be gone GOD WOULD STILL BE GOD ALMIGHTY.
hannahr77 1 year ago
Jesus Christ is
the WAY
the TRUE
the LIFE
Nobody comes in heaveb without Him.
He is knocking at the door of your heart.
Open your hart for Him, before its forever to late!
He love you, and is waiting for you!
God bless you al.
FlorienBloem777 2 years ago 8
Think of the Trinity like this : The Head, the Body and the Hand.. What the Head thinks the body will react and the hand will accomplish what the head has told its body. Head - God, Body- Jesus and the hands - Holy Spirit.
hitmebaby 3 years ago 3
Brother dont u know muslims are retarded and they are not smart enough to understand this.
ouwat4life 2 years ago 2
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muslim belive in holy death
jews belive in holy live ---- jesus was jews
name allah come from tora name of god alohim
allah = alohim
muslim teach hate
jews teach people to bee beter man and love another
robert53211 3 years ago
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muslim belive in holy death
jews belive in holy live ---- jesus was jews
name allah come from tora name of god alohim
allah = alohim
muslim teach hate
jews teach people to bee beter man and love another
robert53211 3 years ago
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There is no other way to be sure of your salvation other than by submitting to God Alone in Islam.
May God (Allah) guide you. Amen.
Converted2Islam 3 years ago
I agree with you totally. if we submit to the Lord and be obedient to Him we will be saved. but we all have missed. you and me and every one on this planet. we have come short of His pefect standards. Now what? I have broken His law and i am condemned. and I know God is Holy and Just, let me add perfect(absolute)holy and just and that means my transgressions and sins can not be ignored. can his hollines and mercy contridict His pefect nature? how is this solved in your beielf?
payambar 3 years ago
i personally believe that Christianity is not a monotheistic religion. i have my friends who go worship jesus and totally forget god.. so what happened to worshiping the ONe god alone?
beerobarDOTcom 3 years ago
Thank you for your comment. i should say Christian faith is a monotheistic religion, as the apostles have proclaimed and as we see it is continuation of jewish faith and beliefs. Jesus Is the Only One God, He is God incarnated to be able to provide atonement for our sins. to satisfy His holy wrath which has revealed because of His His just character. but i know where you are coming from...understanding the trinity has always been trouble for many .
payambar 3 years ago
the point where we get to disagreement is in the way we understand the character and essence of God. How we define God is the part most dont comprehend. in trinity we still confess One God alone. but it is as well proclaimed this God which is one in essence is three in person. which these three persons are One in essence. and it is not in contradiction in reason. as we know if we say A is A and none A in the same meaning and in the same relationship it will certainly be a contradiction.
payambar 3 years ago
it is as if we say He is three in person and three in essence. instead we say He is One in essence and three in persons. there is unity in His essence and diversity in as well. as we see it universe, we see it in our being. which we can truly say we are reflection of His being.
payambar 3 years ago
therefore when we say Jesus is God we dont mean He is just man elevated to such a high divine level. but we believe He is the only True God incarnated, He is the second person of the trinity. so when we worship Jesus we dont worship man but God almighty .
payambar 3 years ago
hi there yup. its true and i want to add, the trinity is a way of God to communicate with his creation, God always make covenant with man, in Old Test the he is called the Father of isreal, in New Test as Jesus, and now present day Holy Spirit, modern day commnication with God is through Holy Spirit the act of the covenant is the baptism, and my dear payambar, what you did is the act of Holy spirit..and rejoice for Jesus is the living God..
Disoderance13 2 years ago
@payambar Well said brother we all know God is ONE but that doesnt mean he is one person.God is big God is almighty he can be anything he want. Muslims cant look past the cingular word just cuz a word is cingular doesnt mean its limited to one being or one of anything. The universe the word is cingular and there is one universe but how many things are inside that universe? Look how compliacted the universe is& we can never understand it does that mean God its creator is less complicated then it?
ouwat4life 1 year ago
@beerobarDOTcom ...unless of course Jesus and God are the same thing, duh!
DuHelms 8 months ago
Please, respect each other in your comments...any user using disrespectful language will be banned. lets have civilized talk. Thank you
payambar 3 years ago
This is what Jesus will tell you my Christian friends in his return,
Matt 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
[23] And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Do you know why he will tell you this, coz you don't say in the name of God instead you say in the name of Jesus. wake up and re- read the Bible.
afghanman420 3 years ago
It is interesting that an Afghani (judging by your nickname) that has suffered mostly from the backward religions to convert to christatianity and believe all the fairy tales given to you in the your bible. The fairy tales and disgusting storied given to you in bible.
Believing that God .. the pure God needs to sleep with a woman and create a son and then sacrifice this son insteat of a lamb just to be able to forgive ..?
Cant you think really how stupid this idea is? Just use your head once
abp250 3 years ago
yeah just like the 72 viegins in heaven ur sumbag promised u when u die ... isnt thats a fairy tale ... ??? ...
00aBs00 3 years ago
the concept of 72 virgins is as stupid as the concept of God coming down to earth and fucking someone elses wife and having a son and killing his own son on the cross because this God loves the people. Dont you really use your brain? Why God the creator of the universe needs to do such a stupid thing in order to forgive sins? Dont you think this is bullshit? Dont you think God is a lot more perfect to do such stupid thing?
The god your bible teaches even killed all animals because a few sin
abp250 3 years ago
Do you really think that the creator of heaven and earth needs an animal sacrifice or the sacrifice of his own son in order to be able to forgive? What kind of God is this? A maniac God you introduce is nothing but the product of some backward semitic tribes. Barbaric product of low intelligence tribes living in desert. That is the God you worship. The God that orders people to "stone" those who work in Sabbat. The God who kills elderly and children and animals because he is angry at sinne
abp250 3 years ago
or the concept about ur scumbag married an 8 yr old girl just coz he wants to make her "blessed" (haha)... and married the soldier's wives who went to war and spread the word of islam by sword ... so basically ur prophet married like 300 or 400?? more?? .. trust there are more weird shit about islam...
00aBs00 3 years ago
And all what you said makes christianity right? A God coming down and sleeping with a woman (someones wife) and making a son and then killing the son to be able to forgive sins? Are you kidding?
Your God once killed even animals because he was so ANGRY of a bunch of people who sinned (read this nonsense in Naoh Strom in bible).
Open your disgusting book read it and see what kind of junk is fed to you by a bunch of guitar playing mullahs ..
abp250 3 years ago
haha you muslims are soo funny ... you can say whatever u wanna say .. i still think islam is a scumbag religion which wants world domination by forcing ppl into islam .. thats what mohammad (cum be upon him) said ... i just hope u die and go to heaven to meet your 72 hairy virgins ... hahahaha
00aBs00 3 years ago
"I hope u die and go to heaven to meet ...72 hairy virgins..." Thank you for your good wish
I pray that you also go to heaven my Stupid American friend. Afterall you believe in such stupid ideas yourself. But make sure you dont reincarnaet as one of those "hairy virgins" given to one of these ARABs. I bet you wont have too much fun ..
abp250 3 years ago
american?? hehe ..u dont even know me bro ...
00aBs00 3 years ago
your stupidity shows you are either an American or a ... christian. I suspect you are both.
abp250 3 years ago
oooohh ... you hurt my feelings ... lol
00aBs00 3 years ago
Hey Ameridan .. are you also one of those voting for Bush the third term? lol
Only an American can elect such moron ...
abp250 3 years ago
There are a lot more shit about Islam, Judaism and christianity have a lot more stupidity.
So what you say is that Christianity has less "bulshit" than Islam?
The fairytales of son of God and other bulll
abp250 3 years ago
now ure dissing ur own religion??? wow .... seems thatYOU are bullshit
00aBs00 3 years ago
WOW! What a deep knowledge. What a logic. (LOL). No wonder why your kind become Chrisitian and belive in all bull.. fed to you by christianity. It takes a retard to believe in such nonsense my friend. (LOL)
abp250 3 years ago
muslims dont believe that jesus died on the cross God saved him becuz he wouldnt let a great prophet die but when u show them this verse from their own quraan they suddenly change their mind. sura 19:33. "So peace is on me the day I was born, the day that I die, and the day that I shall be raised up to life (again)"!
ouwat4life 2 years ago
well said mate all the abrahamic religions are filled with brain washing bull shite it doesn't matter whether it's Islam,Judaism of christianity
fermisk 2 years ago
difference is jesus taught to love ur enemy and turn the other cheeck on the other hand mohammed taught eye for an eye and to hate ur enemy with a pssion. thats the difference buddy
ouwat4life 2 years ago 5
@ouwat4life Is that why you call Muslim's retarded and pedophiles? I think your full of contradicting crap. I see so much love in your comments "brother".
AlborzJ 1 year ago
@AlborzJ And i wasnt calling muslims pedophiles just their prophet. U know the story about aisha the 6 year old girl he took for a wife when he was at the age of 55?
ouwat4life 1 year ago
@ouwat4life Their stories that could be made up. I can make one about Jesus at any time I feel like it and tell a bunch of people. It will circulate around like crack. Either way, it is a belief that a group of people have. I respect their beliefs even if I don't agree with it. We can all live happily if we have a little respect and courtesy for each other.
AlborzJ 1 year ago
@AlborzJ Ok we are trying to live happily too and love even our enemies while muslims are taught to hate kill and curse ur enemies. Its islam that attacked our religion when they denied the very beliefs that our religion is based on. They denied the son of God they denied his pre exsistence before coming in the flesh and they denied his crucifction and ressurection and they say "oh we respect jesus too". Dont compare the two.
ouwat4life 1 year ago
@ouwat4life It is a personal opinion and they have the right to have their own opinions.
AlborzJ 1 year ago
@AlborzJ Yes, you can spread a story about Jesus and I would not stand in your way friend. If the story honors Jesus, it will spread. Go for it brother!
Jesus, I ask for you to bless AlborzJ with abundant life and joy that he does not have. Please make yourself known to him, not as a forerunner of Muhammad, but as the Mighty God, the Everlasting Father, the Prince of Peace! Reveal yourself to him Jesus. Thank you for hearing me Jesus.
WyldBloo 1 year ago
@WyldBloo you just did
AlborzJ 1 year ago
@ouwat4life Do you know the story about the Priest that molested little kids?
AlborzJ 1 year ago
@AlborzJ
yes we know that priest molest little children and we also know that imams are doing just the same, the difference here is that we don't approve, whereas in islam it's the norm because that's what muhammad did and muslims are to emulate muhammad
hannahr77 1 year ago
Your comment is spot on; Yahweh (khodavanda) doesn't need either sacrifice or to kill his son, but he is just and righteous and never lies (unlike Allah al makr) and when Satan the accuser demands justice against humans, Yeshua was sent to take our punishment - get it? It is actually elegantly logical. The Gospel is beautiful like that. God has wiped out those at times who were part of an ongoing cycle of cruelty - you need to judge your creator like a vet who puts an animal out of it's misery.
4isamasi 3 years ago
abp250 I think you are a re-tart person as you judge people with out even reading their comments properly.
where did I say that i was and am a Christian???? no where!
next time if you wish to make any comments on any video, I suggest that you read the comments first.
afghanman420 3 years ago
I converted to Islam after reading the book :St Paul the inventor of christianity.
Please check the videos in the youtube:Who wrote the bible(12 clips)
samgin444 3 years ago 2
many of us have converted to Christ folowers after reading the book God inspired to paul. and now we are childeren of God. what are u now?
payambar 3 years ago
One of the worst religions of the world is christianity. A backward fairy tale book of the tribal ignorance of some semite tribes of three thousand years ago. Just open bible and read it when bible orders you to kill to massacre to destroy to rape to sacrifice ..
Such a barbaric book ant they are trying to attract others to their backward religion
abp250 3 years ago
Dear friend, since the fall of human race into sin, the creator has laid out a rescue plan which is unfolded step by step, stage by stage over times, until it is finally reveal in the Son of God, Jesus Christ who was offered as sacrifice for the sins of the human race. And whosoever believe in Him shall not perish but have eternal life. Many many many people have found this truth and believe in it - this very truth has set us free to enjoy life as the beloved children of God.
yeewooihan 3 years ago
Dear friend ... you may LIKE to believe your bible is the word of God. All what you said woudl be beautiful if they were not the stories given to you by your pastors or priests. Open your bilbe and read it. It is not the "consistent plan of rescue unfolding step by step" as you like to believe. Bible is a book full of nonsense .. full of hatred.. full of hate against the others. What do you call a revengeful God who kills everyone in Noah storm when a few sinned. What do you call a God who
abp250 3 years ago
What do you call a God that kicks out Adam out of heaven because Adams started to KNOW ...? What do you call a God who is jealous of his own creature and when God sees people have one language and cooperate with each other, he creates different language to divide them? (this is the God that is introduced by your so called holy bible) Open your bible and read all this. How do you call such God a god of love? I am amazed how can you stretch the bible so much to change the clear message of hate
abp250 3 years ago
Thank you for this video .. its inspirational .
00aBs00 3 years ago
I love you Jesus. To khodaye haghighi va rastin hasti.
lotfan ba ma bash
JESUS CHRIST is Lord
sabokbar 3 years ago 2
this discussion is not going anywahere. Thanks for visiting my page anyways.
payambar 4 years ago
i had posted those above: the context of John 8:24 says. .... az in jahat be shoma goftam ke dar gonahane khod khahid mord, zira agar bavar nakonid ke MAN HASTAM, dar gonahane khoda khahid mord ...John8:58: Amen amen be shoma migooyam ke pish az anke ebrahim peyda shavad MAN HASTAM"
payambar 4 years ago
HAHAHA LOLLLLLLLLLL YOU CHEATING WITH YOUR OWN BOOK ? AND YOUR OWN GOD AND YOUR OWN FAITH ? LOLLLLLLL YOU JUST LIED YOU DID NOT POST THE WHOLE JOHN 54-58 , YOU ONLY POSTED 58 WHEN HE SAYS IAM LOLLLL, LOSERRRRRRRRRR,i`ll give you he whol verse what he said ok cheater ? did you know in whole bible these verses are my most favourit verses ? coz these verses are very amazing lol ,
ramosay 4 years ago
you know , i wonder why you knowing your gof doent not change your personality and life to good and all you recieve from that god is hatered and bitternes. knowin God is knowing love and respect and thats all of you lack(once you experice Christ and His love and i see many iranians you will experice this great change in your life. salvation salvatio salvation , this is all we need and not just a a corrupted sinful limitted understanding if a sinful human about holy God.
payambar 4 years ago
you are talking about the most important subject in the whole univers and yet i get the feeling that you treat that like a child treats the life. are we in a competition or there is a contest to be won. this is matter of life and death. this is you eternal life and not being funny and laughing and mocking. have you grasp the seriousness of the matter? i guess not...
payambar 4 years ago
wheres that love when they taking their life of depression ? wheres that god and that love when they commiting insis ? wheres that love when a priest malesting a kid ? you call that life ? you all should commit suicide lol
ramosay 4 years ago
The love is payambars responses, the hate is clearly in yours. Christianity allows it's people to make a personal choice if they want to serve God. So those who choose not to we see their fall manifested in this life as you mentioned(suicide, lust, sin)
SamiOpsChief 3 years ago
haha is that why all muslims drownd in sin , by commiting insist with their daughters and mothers ? look at your christian civilisation , who has the highest ratesof suicide ? prostitution, peadaphelia, abortion , gambling , drug use , adultry, rape, drunkkards, robery , murders, divorce rates, infact in america the suicide rates in weman 31% now wheres the love of your "loving god " ? looks like that god only loves muslims , coz muslims do not commit any of those crimes ,
ramosay 4 years ago
that is the way always was... cant debate when you cant reason.
payambar 4 years ago
well can you reason ? i reason with you if you reason ok ? you lost the debate by failing to proof eisa pbuh to be god as you calling him ok,, now you building your religion with love ? so give the prove of that love ? where is it ? you can not tell me god loves you in whole christians under the shade of gods love while whole your christins are killing themselvs lolll
ramosay 4 years ago
Dispute my take of the verse first. safsate nakon ( thats a popular way of refusing the debate you always take)
payambar 4 years ago
coz following something so blindly , you are stupid and you are a khar i can say that , coz its my first time i spoke to my own persian nation and i found them to be khar !when i said you are khar and i proved my claim that you are all khar , didnt i ? then give answer to my questions i will take my claim back and apologize ?
ramosay 4 years ago
i am laughing coz you are laughable , your lie`s are laughable , your book is laughable , your claiming eisa to be god is laughable , then when you fail ? you builed your religion by another big lie "love " while you dont have it lolll ,shwa me where is that love while your ppl killing themselves ? thats why i said that shoma hama kharen ,
ramosay 4 years ago
ram
in noway do we claim that eisa to be GOD, we claim JESUS CHRIST to be GOD, eisa is the fake imaginary JESUS the SON of Miriyam not the real SON OF GOD, and I do pray that one day you'll se HIM hopefully when your saved, AMEN
hannahr77 3 years ago
Be strong, Christ loves you. We will all face God some day and Jesus will say about you "this one is mine"
SamiOpsChief 3 years ago
The oppressed will be like white washed tombs beautiful on the outside but inside they are already dead. some if given a choice they would not love God. But ramosay I forgive you for your attacks and the one you will respond with. God bless you and may His truth touch your heart
SamiOpsChief 3 years ago
please check the bible online and i hope you understand that i can not type the whole chapter in farsi in this little tiny space. it 59 verses. and i hope you dont take this as a step back :)) read this and i will be glad to answer all your questions one at a time ( if you want to get a complete answer and get a conclusion) do not hurry. take your time and take a deep breath and lets review the text
payambar 4 years ago
only post me from chapter 8 verse 54 to 58 thank you ?
ramosay 4 years ago
when eisa pbuh says if i honour myself my honour is NOTHING , it is my father that honoured me , of whom you call "GOD " NOW WHO DID THE JEWS CALLED GOD TO ?? ,,,,,JESUS ? DID THE JEWS CALLED GOD TO JESUS ?
ramosay 4 years ago
PS. for your information Farsi and english translations are direct translation of Greek manuscripts as the New Testamnt had been written. so do know expect to find anything less than Godship of Jesus Christ in Farsi.
payambar 4 years ago
PS. i do know need to prove something that is already obivious and my personal opinions are worthless , this is what Bible the word of God teaches
and i do know engage in debates, i just want to share love and Lords salvation. if you are wise you will consider it or as you wish you chose your destiny. in any case shalom to you
payambar 4 years ago
HAHAHAHA you lost loser , you know and i know that you can NOT answer my questions lollllll and you know if you give me the whole context of john 8 , it says hole different story , as i said you failed to answer my questions or prove your book and faith to be true , and eisa is not your god , go find yourself that god which roman`s and greeks use to worship ok ,, eisa is an muslim payamber , not your god ,,
ramosay 4 years ago
daer friend you dont evern know the principles of a regular debate and cant even dipute my sayings.. seems like you are more into child play than a serious discussion. u have the text i gave you and you have my reseaning uopn that , but i belive you have failed to dispute it with a legitimate come back and instead you took the position of many people who are from other faith and that is making fun when they aer stuck. you have the bible and the verse as i posted. do some thinking
payambar 4 years ago
and since you are not a honest seeker and just a fighter, i bevelive you have made up yuor mind already. and with ur dogmatic way of thinking you will not learn anything.
for your own sake for the sake of eternal life be honest with yourslef and read the bible. Do not miss out the prcsious salvation and remission of sins.
payambar 4 years ago
and as you said jesus said "iam " and also in exodus "god "says to muses iam ,,will that makes him to be god ? did god said iam jesus ?or did jesus said iam god ? answer this i dare you ?
ramosay 4 years ago
well tell me if i dont know , can you inlight me more about your precouse book andreligion please ? i asked you did eisa died as man or as god ? but you avoiding answering my question , and you also avoid posting the verses of john 8 with persian translation why ? and why you say you did posted ? post me in persian the whole john 8 in persian ?i dare you ? and answer my question did eisa died as man or as god ?
ramosay 4 years ago
oh i am gald to do so....i guess you are not familir with the bible at all. i recomand you to read the book of john. check john chapter 8 verses 24, 58 where he says " I AM" since i am sure if yuo are not familiar with the new testament you will not be familiar with that where this "I AM" comes from. so then check Exodus 3: 14 where God introduces to moses as " I AM"
you can check John5: 17 where jews wanted to stone him cause he says He is God.where he reveales He is the found of sabbath
payambar 4 years ago
first of all i asked 2 few questions and you failed to answer it , lol,, now please post me that john 8 when jesus said i am ? coz the context is far different , you can not prove him to be god no matter what ok ?
ramosay 4 years ago
if you have not recieved a specific answer (even though i answered) it is because you have asked a veg question. the context of John 8:24 says. .... az in jahat be shoma goftam ke dar gonahane khod khahid mord, zira agar bavar nakonid ke MAN HASTAM, dar gonahane khoda khahid mord ...John8:58: Amen amen be shoma migooyam ke pish az anke ebrahim peyda shavad MAN HASTAM"
payambar 4 years ago
i can prove it to you in your book of full of contradictions and in noble QURAN , can you prove me wrong ? i dare you ?
ramosay 4 years ago
to know more about the early church history you need to start reading some rtue historical books and know more about the theology of early church as well as jewish faith. Do not let others detrmine your faith and the way of thinking. get yourslef familiar with earlu church faith and you will understand that none sence about greet mythology. it is just because yuo have heard and do know have first hand research and study. that is the problem of our people. Iranians.
payambar 4 years ago
i know more then you i guess, coz you reading bible as word of god , i read it to find what christians trying to represent in it is true or false ? i chalenge you to give me one verse from persian bible coz im sick of english bible , that he said IM GOD OR HE SAID TO WORSHIP ME ?
ramosay 4 years ago
i have read the Quran, just like how you read the bible, and yes, Quran is all knowing, can answer everything the Dalil is there, what i think..is it true yes, Quran have the proof, but did i found God, no,..i just felt scared, not loved..God in the Quran is great, all-powerfull, but i don see his mercy. we christian believe in Living God, he is still comunicating with us to the present day through the Holy Spirit in the covenant of baptism the result is salvation..love is the greatest gift..
Disoderance13 2 years ago 2
Quran is the book of fear, its prophet spread his message with death & fear tactics, how much of it is Abrahamic, only what is plagaiarized, the rest is rubbish.
seanamico 2 years ago
and what good is it to talk about him and to claim to be a someone who knows about him when you dont belong to Him and do know have relationship with him? knowing about God is not as same as haveing relationship and walking with Him. Satan knows about God too as bible says....and as so many people do.
payambar 4 years ago
second question , did massih died as a man or as god ? if you say he died as a man ? but your bible says A MAN CAN NOT TAKE THE SIN OF OTHER MAN RIGHT ? but if you say he died as a "god " ? BUT YOUR BIBLE SAYS A "GOD " CAN NOT DIE COZ GOD IS EVERLIVING ETERNAL RIGHT ?
ramosay 4 years ago
do you know where the problem begins? your defention of God is not of the bible. and the qutoations you just posted is no where to be found. it is just a made up words and not existing in the bible. Do you think God is unable to do anything he says in the bible? Why do you limit God by your limited definition of Him and how can you know and define God when you dont have the spirit of God? thos who have the spitit of God will know God as bible promises.
payambar 4 years ago
way before greek civilization develop their myth that some think thats where Christ comes from, Bible explains the reality of His existance and His relation to the cosmos and people.and that is recorderd in the book of Gensis all the way to the prohecies of prophets prior to Jesus entering the world. the problem raises when we dont know about jewish faith and connection of Christ to that. we ignore that faith in Christ is extension of faith of Jwes.
payambar 4 years ago
in imtehaan khoda e yatast ke banda haa e khod raa imtihaan mekunad ,metone be man behoie ke eisa ra khoda az che va chera be padar pedaa kard ?
ramosay 4 years ago
hama e shoma kharin ,
ramosay 4 years ago
Migan har kasi shabie khodayee mishe ke miparastand. take your time va pmhaye masihian ra ke hamash ba mohabat ast bekhoon va pm haye azizane adyan dige ra ke hamash fosh midan...
payambar 4 years ago
Do you know that the great change in the Christianity since Jesus (pbuh) was due to the influence of the Romans and Greeks, and some corrupt people.
As an example Christians laugh at polytheism while they believe triune god.
Geeks believe in gods sleeping with humans and Christians laugh at that to while they believe the Holy Ghost.... (I don't want to say the rest)
ramosay 4 years ago
Greeks and Romans believe in half human half god, Christians laugh at that too.
While they believe in Jesus as a:
Half God half human, half father half son,
Half dead half a live, half on earth half in heaven
Half loving everyone half everyone goes to hell.
You see how the Greeks and roman believes had a great affect on Christianity
I laugh at them when the laugh at others.
ramosay 4 years ago
well, i believe you are not familiar with Christian theology. Christian theology never believes in half humand half God. That is a light concept that non-christians have developed, but one you know the core of theology you will know this never existed in church history.
payambar 4 years ago
aaya shoma mantigh dareen ? massih goft beparastin khodayee ke man meparastam ? man ferestadeh va payamber khoda hastam , va khoda be man ketab ataa karde va man ra be shoma payaber intekhab karde , ayya shoma be qudrat e khoda ke qaader be hama chiz hast shak e daareen ? aaya shoma feker mikoneen aon khoda qader ba peda kardan e adam bedoon e mard nist ?
ramosay 4 years ago
Good Job Edvin, be blessed, PERSIAN WORSHIP
persianworship 4 years ago
have never heard christian preaching in farsi b4...cool :)
ljubovna 4 years ago
dear muslim brothers
regardless of the fact that jesus is son of god or god,,,since it's a spiritual thing that to understand you need to read the bible.
note this : jesus teached one thing , LOVE for humanity, not a selective peace and love but for all humans.
welshboygaz 4 years ago
it the same as if u say god is a human or is a man dnt change ur rilligioun like a fake how u say jesus is son of god plz idnt whanna say something and u get upset just plz o times go and read quran is a one part is called maryam plz read all of them and ur face will be like a ed colour cus iu say god has a child or he is father omy gash how?
sepidlove 4 years ago
oh thats bad pesareye yegane?o man guys that is sinc if u say son of god cus god isnt human and he can do everything whatever god dnt have a child and he didn born and he didnt creat thats abseloutly wrong god can do every thing r u forgot an adam which was an nothing for him and e made adam from the soil guys god dnt like dis if u say jesus son of god believe me and even jesus crist dnt like him aswell if u say jesus is son of god o my gash how dnt answer me just think if it waslike dis
sepidlove 4 years ago
BIBLE IS NOT THE WORD OF GOD... the BOOK you call bible today is work of uneducated men, who did not know how universe was created. who thought earth is the center of universe and does not move and who were inconsistent in their writings.
amooballer 4 years ago
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amooballer 4 years ago
Christ for Iran thats awesome! I know all the prayers for Jesus to spread over the middleast has not gone in vain :)
latinguitar00 4 years ago
Christ for Iran ... My friend, evangelical christianity has already sent its "message of pace" to Iraq and Afghanistan by bombs and missiles. Hopefully Iranians receive a different message from such American Style peace mission.
abp250 4 years ago
if you check couple posts above you will find me the very first respond i have given you regarding the debate. if you wish you can read and listen to it (and there is something to be reached here it is requeired to stick to the discussed topic and not wonder around)
payambar 4 years ago
if you associate those events to christianity then its obvious that you are looking to man(or nation) as the unadulterated depiction of the Jesus Christ of the Christian faith, unfortunately we pray that our world would see the truth of the gospel of Jesus but it has not
latinguitar00 4 years ago
I associate those events to evangelical christianity as a major political force responsible for mobilizing the lagest military machine in human history against a couple of countries in the middle east.
abp250 4 years ago
are you associating it to "evangelical christanity" through propoganda or through general hatred?
latinguitar00 4 years ago
My friend, there is no "general hatred" on my side. However, if you set aside your bias and do some research online even in your own christian library you will see what Evangelical christianity advocates. War, War against nations specifically war against Iranian nation. The role of evangelical christianity in starting two wars in Afghanistan and Iraq is not deniable. My friend just do some research.
abp250 4 years ago
How can God limit himself in the tribal comptetion of ignorant people of 3000 years ago. How can God, the creator makes mistakes geographical mistakes. I would give you specific refrences from bible if you like.
abp250 4 years ago
would you like to go through this? i will be happy to answer this questions. I will answer to all of your questions, BUT one by one, and i'd like to answer it completely, do not want to leave any thing out.if you agree, i shall answer the very first question you asked."You dont belive that bible is inspired word of God" and then the jelousy subject you raised and then the rest. are we on?
payambar 4 years ago
Sure lets do it. But I have a request. I am not christian so I do not accept anything blindly only because I am told to. I cannot accept anything unless it makes sense. If you agree with this, I really like to understand the stand of a christian on such illogical issues I see in bible.
abp250 4 years ago
to start the first part of our debate, i am including an audio link so you can listen to part of my dialouge about why i believe Bible is inspired word of God. the reason i didnt write is because you tube wont let me write enough
payambar 4 years ago
check christforiran. com on sermons (why bible is inspired word of God)
payambar 4 years ago
What happened to your invitation to talk about the so called "bible" and the eveangelical take on such "word of God".
What happened? Are you convinced that it is better to keep people ignorant and do not show them what really bible is about. Do you want to keep those u decieve in total darkness? Why do you stop talking about the barbaric verses of your so called "book of God"?
abp250 3 years ago
Can some of these Christians tell me why God needed blood to be able to forgive the sins of humans. Couldnt he forgive without seeing a death animal sacrificed or seeing his own son dying. Such a God you christians belive needs some serious sessions of therapy.
abp250 4 years ago
Well That a myth, saying that god loved human being and wanted to wash their oroginal father s sin(Adam and Eve) by blood of his beloved son so they could have the opportunity to return to the human perfection one day,but the funny thing is that this issue doesnt make it unbelievable at all, there are many contradiction between Christians and their beliefs which if u ask them at the end of the day there is no answer for those questions
vivaelche455 4 years ago
the very first one is that if u dont believe in jesus christ u would never be blessed and i think that s what puts a difference between people and is the root for further prosecutions as we ve faced in middle ages if there is a god and if that the highest perfectness he or she wouldnt put a difference among what he or she created
vivaelche455 4 years ago