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  • Sound quality is still amazing for Super Nintendo!

  • the 32x version had poor music but whay and more sound effects.

    the snes versioon had better music but weird and way less sound effects.

    the snes version has the original textures and colors but lacks textures on flours & ceilings.

    the 32x version has textures all over the place but they,re different and in different colors.

    the 32x has more speed & instant control response whereas the snes version has poor speed & control response.

    but i wonder is the superfx2 compareble with the 32x chip?

  • @johneymute I don't think so. The Super FX2 chip is very impressive for what it is and it runs at up to 21MHz but remember the 32X has dual 32-bit RISC processors in it each at 23MHz. Even if the SFX2 was as good as one of them it could'n't match the two of them paired up.

  • @MN12BIRD I don't now why so many people bash on this version of Doom. Sure it runs pretty slow but it isn't any slower than the 3DO version. It has great music but most people says that the music is horrible. The controller lag is very easy to get use to. Many ignore the Super Nintendo's limitation, literally thinking that this version shouldn't have any flaws. I still like this port of Doom and I understand it's shortcomings unlike other people.

  • @PenguinmanN64 Yeah from what I remember seeing the 3DO and Saturn version look REALLY slow. This one's playable once you get used to the lag. It's true you do get used to it after awhile and then you start controlling better. I love the music in the SNES version personally. It's not perfect but it beats listening to the 32X music! It's very impressive they got this running on the SNES even with the Super FX2 chip it was a miracle and I was amazed by it back in the day.

  • I was going to mention that thing about the enemy only having 1 direction, but I see you noticed already. All and all I think they did a good job in this port.

  • Thats wierd, i had a pal version and it was full screen

  • Makes me wonder if someone with skills could take a fx2 chip from the doom game and connect it to the starfox board

  • @Standard420247 Yeah I dunno if it's tied into the SNES CPU base clock cause I think the Super FX chip got it's clock speed off the SNES through the extra contacts in the cart slot. It certainly could run faster with the SFX2 chip cause Starfox is a little slow for sure.

  • @MN12BIRD Well, the framerate wasn't that bad, I think that the Saturn and 3DO versions had a much much worse framerate.

  • I wonder if starfox had the fx2 chip, would it have been much faster... I mean you play the game on a emulator it flies but the game on the cart is slow as all hell and choppy as shit

  • still the gba is better then the snes and then pc and then xbox is the best

  • I have an 360. But, I want to know if there is an game like DOOM.

  • @Masterlink981 there is doom for it but it is no longer on arcade so there is a doom 2 still the music is better in the xbox version

  • @doomguy111 thx. though i don't have live...

  • so you think snes music sounds better than the sound blaster (pc) version

  • I like the SNES version of doom, but all of the sound effects sound like the PC version sound effects travelling through a wall in a 2-part condominium....

  • @FlamingGaming1

    meh i go with snes

    more levels including all secret and boss levels and still playable with a total 22lvls while the 32x version suffers for lack of levels (16) and music that rapes your ears HARD

  • I appear to be the first one to notice that Star Trek: Generations is playing on the TV in the background.

  • @therealhardrock LOL yeah I think so! Movie was okay I saw it in the Theatre back in the day. I was a big TNG fan myself.

  • @FlamingGaming1 32X is bad ass, Lord Karnage says so, it MUST BE TRUE!!!!!

  • @Zenex666

    no

    its also reviewed by the angry video game nerd

    and when i seen that video it made me think WOW that is theh shit

    especially when i see that doom port

    16 levels and farting music

    snes has 22 and GREAT GREAT MUSIC

  • @FlamingGaming1 Yeah I would agree with you!

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  • @penguinfanlol Doom SNES I've never played Doom 64 but I do know it's a very different game.

  • HEY GUYS LOOK AT IT THIS WAY.

    The SNES was able to do this game wiith better sound and no shitty $150 dollar add on.

    Nintendo does what Sega was too dumb to do.

    What Sega Should have done, was make it a port for the Sega CD because it had a chipset and programming similar to Mode 7 on the SNES which would have made it a better port than the SNES.

  • @xDaXAFImoshmonkey The SegaCD scaling hardware could never pull off Doom. Wolf3D maybe but not doom. Don't forget the SNES isn't really running Doom on it's own the Super FX2 chip in the Doom cartridge is doing most of the heavy processing and that chip was why this game had a much higher price tag than most other SNES games at the time. Also Doom on the 32X has MUCH better graphics, textures on the roof and floors and runs at a much smoother frame rate too. So it was a trade off.

  • @MN12BIRD Yeah true.

    I'm pretty much sure I meant to say 32XCD XD

    just because those 2 together (minus a few upgrades) pretty much make a sega saturn.. well the 32x part anyway/

    The CD part could've made for a bad ass BGM Soundtrack and added a little memory to the game itself.

  • @MN12BIRD and like your reviews btw.

    pretty awesome!

  • @xDaXAFImoshmonkey Mix the Sega CD and 32x, one of those "Sega CD/32x" games. You'd have the graphics of the 32x game, with the audio of a CD.

  • @xDaXAFImoshmonkey You are about 15 years behind the times for fanboyism on this game calling out some dumb shit like nintendo does what sega was too dumb to do..... So there is no HEY GUYS LOOK AT IT THIS WAY.... There's only HEY GUYS xDaXAFImoshmonkey is either a retard or a teen.

  • @Zenex666 I'm 22 and just getting into retro gaming and I did jump the gun when trying to say that the 32x sucked, it's actually pretty cool however, I was just continuing my argument buy calling it shitty because mine pretty much killed the battery in 4 of my games. I was upset about it at the time of my last reply, I hope to get another one soon but I just imported a FDS and Famicom lol.

  • Makes you feel ill, if you play this to long.

  • If they had created an FX chip which ran on 42mb would it have been better?

  • The SNES version doesn't have the specters in it, they're the only missing enemy

  • thats an asome video you got there i didnt knew you can play 3d games on snes

  • does any1 know how can get this game on psp without cfw?

  • I thought AVGN said the 32X version was missing levels, not the SNES version

  • Doom began for me on the sony playstation. I loved this game and hell i still do then.

    I then got Final Doom for the Playstation which was sweet too followed by getting the Gameboy Advance version and then the bonus versions on the XBOX version on DOOM 3.

    I also have this on the 360 live arcade which is an amazing port, have to get it for the multiplayer.

    Today ive put a bid in the Snes version on ebay, can't wait to get it !

    Ironically ive never played the PC version. I need too.

  • if u want the pc version download zdoom and some iwads and doom, doom2 wads etc.

  • The music from the SNES Doom was the best.

  • this was my first version of DOOM before I owned a PC and it was amazing (considering I had nothing to compare it to)

  • Why do people spell it "DooM" when it's "DOOM" or "Doom"? It's annoying.

  • d00m

  • I payed 4.99 for mine at a store called video outlet

  • When? I'd like to know because I can't buy off eBay.

  • it looks amazing when you consider it's on an snes. you have a killer collection of old systems, i'm jealous!

  • u have a hell of a collection of old systems, i'm jealous

  • Does anyone know if they took out the pentagrams in this port? I wonder if they thought the symbols would be too objectionable.

  • snes doom feels so lame,it misses everything wich makes the game so fun.

    it has no textures on flours & ceilings making it very hard to see if you walk close to enemy,s walls, and gaps.

    i can,t see why most peoples prefer this version duo the extra levels,bosses and better music,i 'm a snes fan and in retrospect i would say it,s impressive but it misses all the fun from the 32x version!!!

  • I noticed that you can shoot one bullet with machinegun in SNES DooM but in PC it shoots two bullets.

  • This version has better music, but I guess I just like the sound of SNES music better than the PC version of Doom.

  • I played doom on a mac, I found it runs well on the mac then a pc,

  • That's if you're using an OS newer then Windows 98se, and Windows ME. The original DOOM was made for PC's, and it's a DOS game. You can still play it on a PC no matter what. Using a source port, or DOSBox.

  • Its cool that you dont need a add-on to play this game.

  • dude i saw your work in the last 2 vids i'm subscribing to you keep it up

  • i love this port for the simple fact that doom was squeezed out on a SNES.

    i wonder what some modern home brew codemonkeys could do with doom and an SNES?

  • ha master of puppets

  • Umm no this is the SNES version being played on an actual SNES.

  • How can it possibly be the 32x version? That had floor and ceiling textures. <_<

  • I only wish the Saturn had the original music, also, the SNES and the Saturn version seem to run about the same FPS, idk, the Saturn should have ran that like the PC did.

  • The SNES music is really kickass! I definitely gotta pick this up, but how come the cartridge is red? Is it because of the blood/ M rating?

  • You should do a review of the Xbox 360 Arcade Version Doom.

  • I don't think he owns a 360.

  • @JTCPingas09

    i dont think it owns the PC as well

  • @JTCPingas09 what do you need a 360 for if you have all those consoles he owns?????

  • wheres the music???lol

  • 5. Nightmare difficulty isn't like on PC. On SNES enemies won't respawn but their speed and damage will be extremely high.

    6. Enemies are weaker. On PC cyberdemon takes 50 rockets or 3 BFG shot. On SNES he die after 3 or 5 rockets.

    Overall i love this port too its actually this port that started me playing Doom. Despite its flaw it remain one of my favorite port oddly.

  • Other stuff to notice:

    1. Even if there's no floor texture, toxic waste pit should have been green colored at least but on they remain black.

    2. You cannot kill 2 enemies at once with the shotgun even if they are one behind each others.

    3. You cannot circle strafe which makes it hard sometime.

    4. You cannot play every on every difficulty. Shore of hell is available on Hurt me plenty. Ultra violence allow inferno.

  • this brings up the question, would Doom have been possible on a stock Mega Drive/Genesis, even with an enhancement chip like the SVP chip?

  • very very good question.

    We will never know though.

    Tom

  • they probably should have made a MD version, if it came out and was playable, it would have made more money then the 32X version

    MD had a 30+ million userbase

    32X had no more then 4,000,00.

    the MD would have made lots more money

  • yeah that's a good point!

    Tom

  • It would need a separate chip, I think, because there's no sprite rotating/scaling, and the one from Virtua Racing isn't able to do textures, I don't think.

  • Probably not without cutting a lot of corners

  • Reminds me of the time I used to play it on my SNES years ago. I think (although it's unfortunately as slow as you're saying) it's quite impressive how they mananged to port Doom on the SNES. My computer (an old 386 with 40 Mhz in the earliest days) needed an upgrade to play doom. In here, even a 16 bit console with slow hardware handled the game pretty well. Okay, the Super FX2 was needed, but as it was included in the cardridge, no one even cared... missing textures? Didn't bother me...

  • you are a great reveiwer!!! 5/5

  • Well...

    The SNES have 2MB RAM, and this is a great factor to DOOM work good.

    In the PC we need the minimal of 4 MB RAM in a 386 60MHz to run fast.

    The SFX chip is a good hardware to.

  • You also can't kill more than one enemy at once with the shotgun. Some levels are also missing.

  • the music is actually pretty great on the snes

  • How do you record off a system?

  • Use a TV Tuner card or external USB TV Tuner box.

  • Thx dude your vids are great!

  • How much do those tend to run

  • dang...it looked like crap on the snes...it looked and ran great on the jaguar.

  • I prefer doom 64 :)

  • i suck at this game

  • 8MHz? The SNES's CPU ran at 3.58 MHz!

    (inless you're not specifically referring to the SNES)

  • SLOW~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! give me a break that looks too fast for my taste but if it bears the name doom i am getting it

  • awesome i have this game to in its original box with instructions and let me just say the graphics suck and the game runs slow but the sound is kick ass compared to the 32X version

  • It's an emulator because it emulates Super Nintendo's inner-workings on your PC. You need to download Super Nintendo ROMS and play them on your PC. ZSNES has a menu, download a rom (you can leave it in ZIP compression), and load it in ZSNES.

  • I just bought this game for 5$ but it isn't working, it looks fine inside I think it may be hard to get to play because of the different chip.

  • I like your channel dood. I watch all your vids, they are like a great trip down memory lane, keep up the awesome work!!!!!

  • like how the cartridge is blood red

  • Yeah like the Spiderman Maximum Carnage cartridge was too.

  • reply to themtaknowitall - Google is your friend.

  • Yea, there aren't floor and ceiling textures, but that would be even more information to fit into that cartridge, and I'm pretty sure that thing is stuffed full as it is. Plus you're usually looking mostly at walls anyways.

    The sound is revolutionary on the SNES, and they did a great job of making the music sound amazing.

    The speed isn't the best, but imagine it with the original Super FX chip! Two times slower! That would be terrible! But hey, at least we have Doom on the SNES, and it RULES!!!

  • that is your opinion i dont care about no floor textures or the lag or the pixelation put them together and i just didnt have much fun atleast its better than the 3do though =P

  • DooM takes place in the future, Humans live on mars, open a portal to Hell and demons and zombies are the enemies. Nothing like Wolf3D. The game has lots of blood and demonic references (six pointed star?) along with some extras like a guys head on a pole and nice stuff like that. Most of the really gory stuff like that was taken out of most of the console versions.

  • hey man i just want you too know this was a really good review!

    just from my point of view, i dont see what your talking about when you say its slow though

  • There was another guy who reviewed this game and didn't do it fairly because he was judging it by the same standards as the versions for more powerful systems. You should have said how it was the only early version of Doom released for a general consumer console and not one of the expensive uber-systems.

  • It is slow because the snes is not ment to run doom

  • your wrong about amount of levels in the snes it has all 4 episodes but levels where taken out from each one the 32x has 3 complete episodes i think the snes has about 3 more levels

  • i played this. pretty weak compared to the pc version but considering that incredible lack of memory and cpu performance on the snes, they did a great job.

  • Saturn Doom also was Jaguar Doom-derived. SNES Doom was the only contemporary version with the PC version levels instead of the simplified Jaguar ones. Later on the Xbox (Doom 3) and Xbox 360 (XBLA) would be perfect PC ports, but of the older ports, the SNES is the only one with the original levels. Map screen between levels too.

    Amazing port too, really. Sure it's slow, but it's perfectly playable. And it has great music. The main problem is the pixelized graphics, but you get used to it.

  • As far as I know the second level in the SNES version of DOOM isn't the full level. It's cut short. Not sure if any of the other levels were cut short, just thought I'd let you know though.

  • what other games used the SuperFX2 chip

  • Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island believe it or not does. I haven't seen that game in so long I couldn't even remember why it needed to use this chip. It must have had some fancy effects in some levels?

  • how many MHz did the FX chip have in yoshis island?

  • It was the same 21 MHz as DOOM (SFX-2 chip). Actually the SFX-1 had an internal clock speed of 21 MHz as well, but was halved by an external clock devider and had fewer pins.

    Yoshi's Island used the chip for advanced 2D effects like scaling sprites and very large sprites (taking up the whole screen) used for many boss battles.

  • the doom title screen tune owns

  • COOL

  • I have this game. The first game I bought at the game store.

  • Haxor! 200 life lol? I have this. Ths SNES was way before my time, this game was realeased the year I was born, but now that I have one this was one of the first games I ordered off ebay. I love it. Good review, you did it justice.

  • if doom was on a 32 megabit cartridge it would've been even better. but this is still very good for a 16 megabit cartridge

  • the snes always had good music

  • my only complaint about it was the fact that it didn't have any save feature. I remember leaving the snes on for hours so I could go eat and then continue playing.

    Also the dancing gun will drive you crazy if you play the game for a extended period

  • this and your 32x doom video are my favorite ones from you

  • This version hasn't got all the levels from the pc version, only has five more levels than the 32X. Also did you notice that the engine of this game makes you walk right in the middle of items to pick them up? If you're a player used to the pc version, sometimes you think you've pick up an item as you tuched the border and you don't, it can get pretty annoying. Still, this version deserves some credit since it's running on a 16bit console.

  • lol now that you mention it when I was making this video and I get the shotgun on Level 1 I thought I picked it up the first time and was like WTF I was almost right over it but then I had to back up over it. It is kinda more picky that way now that you mention it.

  • I think it was an ok port, but it arrived a year plus too late.

  • dang now I want to get my hands on this port lol

  • you forgot to mention the psx port lol

  • I think the biggest SNES cartridge was like 6 MegaBytes so that would be what like 48 Megabit. Jaguar had a CD-ROM add-on did it not?

  • Doesn't look slow to me.

  • its slower when you play it. Sometimes too when you record video it only appears to be less choppy because the frames are blended together. Its choppy when you see it straight of the SNES on your TV and its controls are laggy making it harder to control.

  • bring back memories,probably your best vid from a nolstalgic standpoint!!!!!!!!!

  • played the ps version,the first fps i ever played!!!!!!!

  • How would you compare all the console versions of Doom against each other? Like the SNES, 3D0, Jaguar, 32X, Saturn, Playstation & N64.

  • N64 Doom is a sequel really, not a remake (all new levels)...

    As for the rest, the best summary is the one on Gamefaqs. There's an incredibly detailed FAQ listing every single difference between each version.

  • as always, great review!

  • this is one of my most hated ports of this game it has a good framerate and good music but it was really glitchy you could get stuck into the walls and enemies were always looking at you

  • You think the framerate is good?? Have you played it on the real system or just on an emulator??

  • its ba but not as ba as the Saturn port the framerate is really piss poor on that

  • What a twist at 2:10 :D

  • That's how it runs on zsnes for me.

  • it runs smoother on ZSNES for me I found it easier to control on ZSNES too.

  • i had the computer version and i was hooked on it when i was a kid.

  • What about the Saturn version?

  • Compared to the 3do version this runs pretty good, 3do had an even smaller screen and a pretty low framerate, but at least the music on it was realy good(best maybe).

  • This version still looks like speedy gonzales compared to most modern fps games.

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