I do not agree with The LDS teachings, but i must say this video is not a good example of how Jesus taught others. Jesus was refreshing. (Matthew 11:29)
he also said In Matthew 22:30 "You must love your neighbor as yourself" Well i doubt you would want your sins exposed and posted on Youtube.
True preachers do so out of love of God and people, not to humiliate others.
My friend Matt 24:14 says "the good news of the kingdom will be preached" not this negative bashing of others beliefs.
get real. Know your theology. Dont rip things out of contexts.. They agreed to be interviewed before and after. To show them their sins may drive people to Jesus - is that not loving your neighbour?
And I would ask you the same questions you asked these 19 year old boys. Have you ever lied, stole, hated, lusted in the definition you used for them? I have yet to meet a person mormon or otherwise that can answer truthfully, no, to all the above.
I went to a Mormon church once by accident, they invited me under the pretence that its a christian church. Apon going there I felt no love, no Holy Spirit and no revelation in the message, all i saw was brainwashed people telling us that this john smith guy is like Jesus.
My heart breaks for mormons, their intentions are good but they dont realize the dangers of that cult.
Clearly, works are a product of faith, or even of someone coming to Christ... who by the way is the only way to be saved (from sin). However, it is becoming a new creature in Christ (repenting - go and sin no more), which means living the commandments and possessing good works, including charity that leads to the gift of eternal life, which is not something received in mortality. It is received in the afterlife. The Bible is clear that keeping the commandments is necessary for eternal life.
Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another; Romans2:15
No Mormon believes that his works will save him! But we do believe that works is important. We must try to be better people today than we were yesterday. And after we try.. if we die.. it is only because of the grace of God that we become saved.
What people don't understand.. is that if you don't try to be better. Then you are not "following" Christ. And if you don't "follow" Christ, his grace can not save you. His grace is conditional. Come follow me!
What YOU don't understand, is that works are irrelevant. Works are a sign of Salvation and not a cause of Salvation. The Mormon teaching is that a person is saved by grace, AFTER all they have done. You're saying one thing, but so many other Mormons and official Mormon sources say something entirely different. The act of being Saved is not following Christ, but becoming OF Christ. Following Him is the consequence, not part of the act. Mormons claim you must follow the Law of Moses. Impossible.
Redemption from original sin is without faith or works; redemption from our own sins is given through faith and works. Both are gifts of free grace; but one is a gift forced upon us unconditionally, the other is a gift merely offered to us conditionally. The reception of the one is compulsory; the reception of the other is voluntary. Man cannot by any possible act, prevent his redemption from the fall; but he can utterly refuse and prevent his redemption from the penalty of his own sins.
Witnessing a little battling with words?? Bashing etc...??
after all - we all believe you have to be nice.. is not this works? Do we not all as christians believe we have to become better people, having Jesus as our example? Is it not a commandment to become like Jesus?
NO MORMON says his works will save him.
If you at testskriftene really want to reach LDS members, at least understand their doctrine, do not search for arguments and battling of words..
Most mormons I have had contact with here on youtube, and the missionaries in Oslo believe that the works they do will save them (of course after they believe)...
so what is your point then, so what is the essence of being nice to the other people if thats not the reason, then if thats not the reason probably all the mormon kills a lot of people long time ago if that matters, since works ismportant to your salvation you have to be nice. understood
The LAW drives people to Christ... thats what we try to do with this method... Jesus said that people would not like the truth... to hear that they are sinners - in desperate need of Jesus - and He is The only way to God....
It is not enough to feel what is in your heart, bc we are depraved. And yes, two Jesus' are being presented here and they both can't be right. Works do nothing but to show thanks and praise to JEsus for HIS dying for us, but works DO NOT ADD to what Jesus did on the cross.
"What about these scriptures? What do Christians do about them? Nothing?
Matt. 5: 48
Heb. 5: 9"
The apostle Paul - the preeminent apostle Christ sent to the Gentile world (that means you) - said we are complete and perfected "in Christ" if we've believed the Gospel of the grace of God. The work is done, 100% of it. To try to add our own righteousness, which we do not have, to His completed work for us is to disbelieve Him, and reveals a deceived, self-righteous and self-condemned heart.
Christians feel they don't have to. You see.. I give the scriptures and all Christian do is by pass them.. and give me others to look at. They will not address it. They won't answer it. Even you Test... just twisted it around.. did not answer.. but asked me the question back. Typical. You misunderstand the scriptures! You missed the message that Paul was talking about. If that is your Gospel.. it is false and will take you to hell.
Are you perfect? WOW. have you sinned today? Lusted after anyone, any sinful thoughts? Greed, coveting, hate?
Perfect people dont fall, do they?
That verse does not tell us that we can become perfect, or work our way to be perfect, but we are perfect in Christ, when His righteousness is given to us, trough faith. Hope you come there some day
And I think it is important that christians try hard not to sin, and be a good man, we try - but NONE can become perfect - Only IN JESUS we are perfect
I don't like this video, it's like he's harassing those boys. Nobody is perfect, not even the interviewer in this video. I don't like the Mormon church much, but most of the members are good people and deserve respect like everyone else.
Most of my Mormon friends say that they study, and believe, the KJV Bible. If so why do they even "need" the Book of Mormon?? Also, if Mormons truly believe the KJV Bible how could they possibly believe the obvious heresies that would continually "pop up" as they read the BOM? Most Mormons are truly good folks and live out their faith better than most other Christians I know but I don't understand this paradox between the BOM and the KJV Scriptures.
All christians need to read this Luke 22:36 Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.37 For I say unto you, that this that is written must yet be accomplished in me, And he was reckoned among the atransgressors: for the things concerning me have an end.38 And they said, Lord, behold, here are two swords. And he said unto them, It is enough.
Read Luke 22:36-38, the Bible itself is corrupted, this Bible is what led to different churches, if a man creates a church and names it what he wants is that his church or Christs? Also the Bible mentions babptism for the dead, if every knee shall bow and tounge confess at the last day how is it possible for infidels/athiest to be saved? Someone has to do the work for them. 17 points of the true Church of Christ on my personal channel
Although I am against worship, I found your rigid attachment to the literal words of the Bible refreshing in this video. It seems that you are very interested in what exactly is expected and required to be saved. I could not help but to notice that you have declared that all Mormons are going to hell. How do you qualify that statement with your other, that one must trust Jesus 100%? IOW, how do you know that there may not be some Mormons that do trust in Jesus 100%?
You did not answer my question, I will be as direct as you were in this video... According to your words, to be saved one must put all trust in Jesus, how are you able to judge how much trust any given Mormon has invested in Jesus?
I dont know how much faith they have in Jesus, because they dont trust Him to save them... they believe they have to be baptised, do many works and rituals (LDS way) in order to be saved... they believe they are not saved before AFTER they have done that, and even after that, most mormons are not sure if they will live with God or not when they die... they are on a hamster weel.. constantly working for the LDS church to try and prove themselves worthy... that is a living hell
Not the fear of going to hell, but the fact... All people are wilfully turned against God, and naturally hate him. If you dont believe in God, you dont believe that there is a place as hell when you die, do you?
I guess that's a possibility. I'm not too sure myself on people naturally hating God though. I can't see how that makes sense in modern times.
I'm sure you already know that it's not always as black and white. For example, I think there's a possibility of a God, but neither believe or disbelieve in God because I don't have the information to prove or disprove it. The same goes for Hell.
Maybe people of faith call me a fence-sitter but I see it more as being logical versus faithful.
Of course... all the time. Its how Jesus made people see that they cant work their way up to heaven, that they are all sinners and desperately need Jesus to save them...
Let me get this right, these two guys are trying to teach what they believe and the guy in the backpack is trying to prove them wrong. religion or no religion, the guy in the backpack is a dick!
Let me get this right, when the missionaries teach people what they believe, that they are right where other religions are wrong, that is "teaching what they believe", but when the other guy teaches what he believes, and shows the missionaries what he believes and why he thinks they are wrong, he is being a "dick". Hmmmm.... can we say double-standard?
Thats so funny. Its good to see that we can all have a good sense of humor in all this. Though if its true about his family i do feel for them, kind of mocking them abit but hey thats family problems we all have them! Man i bet hes a proper "black sheep" of the family. Maybe i will send you one next year saying that i have left the LDS church haha!
Oh by the way Shaun forgot to mention that you need faith in the Lord Jesus Christ to be baptised and to follow his example and live a christ like life and to promise to take his name upon you that you may always have he Holy spirit to be with you or it counts for nothing. Apart from that small thing pretty spot on!
God bless you i love you for all the good you do in this world by helping others the weak and the poor and the hungry. Thank you for loving Jesus Christ and maybe we can be friends some day. If i see you at the gates of heaven i will let you in becasue you loved Jesus. God bless.
you prove your faith by trying your best to bring other faiths down. All the time and effort that goes into all this could be spent helping someone not bringing them down?
I try to be a servant for Jesus, and prove that Jesus is the only truth, and that the Bible is reliable. Jesus wants to set people free from religious bondage.. Watch TEMPLE BONDAGE series here on youtube
satan belives in Jesus knows that he has saved mankind, so what is the diffrence between the devil and you? We prove our faith by doing good in the world!
The devil has not been born again - Jesus created a new heart in me, a new will and a new life. Good works flows out from that... but the good works dont save me
testskriftene i love you with all my heart in Jesus Christ. Love will save this world and that can only come fom Jesus. But Jesus would not have you do this? Whether your right or wrong or whether i am right or wrong. Its about doing good in this world not "for works" but because Jesus would do the same. Jesus himself did works did he not? Then shoudnt we follow his example? Men are free to worship how and where they want its Satans plan to make a dictatorship.
Jesus has me doing this - witnessing to mormons - most mormons are lost in religiosity - and dont know Jesus - have not been born again by faith in Jesus...
For the record please tell me that i have NOT been born again in Jesus i dare you in his holy name and as God and angels as witnesses, to state that on youtube for the record and we will see here and now who is the wolf in sheeps clothing!
People need to stop being blind why would anyone who proffeses to believe in Christ want to set someone up on camera and post it on youtube, how very sad. "What would Jesus do" certainly NOT this??? TRY READING JAMES CHAPTER 2 VERSE 26 (Thats in THE NEW TESTAMENT)You guys with your pathetic anti mormon material, just read your BIBLE!
Why doesnt this guy admit the sins HE has done??? EY? Why doesnt he answer his own questions?? I GUES HE IS PERFECT IN YOU EYES testskriftnen. This guys is no diffrent than the guys who did the EXACT same thing to Jesus! You need to repent.
"He would admit"??? The fact is he didnt! God is the same yesterday today and forever?But yet prophets are done away with hum? I think you have alot to learn about the Bible because they are all prophets who wrote it! But you probably believe that all of Gods dealing he has ever had with all mankind from the begining even from Adam is all contained in one Book? All of Gods dealings with man cannot fit into one book! God would reveal more to his children but becasue of people like you he will not
Also if prophets are done away with, what is all this stuff in Revlations about TWO PROPHETS being sent to defend the holy land??? Huuummm??? Think you sliped up there? If prophets are done with then so is "revelation?" So please tell me how you think you know that God does not have prophets anymore, did God tell you? Did a prophet tell you? NO! Your just guessing or heard it from another person?
Its not talking about prophets like your understanding of it (chief in "Gods organisation" here on earth). Human prophets like unto Moses is done away with. Hebrews 1, 1-2. There is a difference between prophets in OT and prophets in the NT. Get a Bible dictionary and commentary (NOT LDS version - but from a scholar)
NOT LDS version - but from a scholar) Oh so you trust in the arm of flesh SCHOLAR! Oh then it must be right if a learned man has told you! WAKE UP! If there is any day in the history of earth were a prophet from God is needed then it is NOW! A prophet leads and guides Gods children! Do you not think the world needs a Moses??
Do you think must work to be saved? If you do - you dont trust Jesus... Do you have to be part of a human organisation (LDS church) to be saved (live with God)
YOU need faith and works. Works is the evidence or fruits of faith! "By there fruits ye shall know them!" You are doing works by posting all this stuff, its the evidence of what you believe is it not? You dont beleive and sit there and do nothing! No i beleive others will get there without a strcrural organisation (religion). "they have there reward" but there are greater rewards for those who WORK to do good in the world!
If your sooo right then tell me as God and angels as witnesses that i am and my baby 11 week old daughter are going to hell. If this is not a wake up call i dont know what is?
People that cant account for their sins dont go to hell, Gods grace steps in.. age of accountability for jews was 13.. but I am not sure about when God accounts people for their sins...
God must look at his children and think what are we doing?? ILOVE JESUS! You cannot tell me i do not i love the same Jesus as you! So why dont we rejoice in that i am willing are you?? Instead you constantly attack people like me with these videos. SO answer me this am i going to hell?? Remember i cloth the naked feed the hungry and live up to all is said in the scriptures and i love Jesus Christ! So am i going to hell?
Is Jesus your spiritual brother from birth? Is He one of the three persons in the trinitarian God? We dont have the same Jesus. Spiritual brother vs eternal God is huge
i hope this guy is listening cause these missionaries are doing a great job answering his questions...when a man asks questions he is searching for answers...
WhO is this guy???? JAMES; FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD!!! Of course you need good works to get to heaven!! Are you telling me that all i have to do is belive and that is strictly it??? So if there is someone is dieing and i have the means to help would i do it or not?? Well according to this guy i can walk on by not do anything and still get to heaven!!! Sounds like satanic doctrine to me!! This guy also needs to ask the same questions to HIMSELF!!!
He has been asked those questions. All are guilty before God, you, me, those in this clip, Thomas S. Monson. God sent Jesus, to take our punishment, and by having faith in Jesus, that he took that punishment that you deserve, we can be justified and get a new life. You can be covered by the blood of Jesus when God sees you on judgement day, or you can show him the works you have done.. Being born again is the only things that can make a person live with God when he dies. Watched whole clip?
your interpretation of the Saviour atonement is incorrect..again non mormons preaching false doctrine..Not the Gospel of Christ but man made gospel..once again close but not close enough..Do you have anything more to add or is that all you know?
OH forgot to mention. Prophets were all done away with because people like YOU killed them off, all because they couldnt handle the truth! They preached the same as you do "its a diffrent Gospel!" STONE HIM!!!
Listen we could go all day with this stuff. Why dont we just come together and say "i love God and so do you and i respect you for that". Problem is we are too busy arguing with each other instead of coming togther and fighting the real evils out there! We may disagree on alot but we have the same enemy, satan an he laughs at both of us right now!
I think the LDS church leads people away from Jesus... yes I know Jesus is in the name of the church... but it adds a truckload of things to do for the church and to work work work to be saved.... "Jesus is not enough for mormons"... You can search for that on youtube
Also who are you to say God cannot speak to man again. Your limiting Gods power! If God wants to speak to a 14 year old boy then he will, we do not have the right to say who he speaks to and who he doesnt! You do not know God you just know traditions of men.
I dont say God dont speak to people. But we dont have a prophet like unto Moses. I know its hard to hear - but its the truth. Jesus is the only "prophet like unto Moses" we have. The LDS prophet is a false prophet
I beleive i get answers from God personally but the peophet gets answers for Gods kingdom on earth as a whole. So if you have NO prophet who leads and guides your church oh sorry you answered that one "the scholars!" lead your church!
i totally agree with you..let he without sin cast the first stone..these people do not fully understand repentance and the process that it involves..how stupid can a man be..
WhO is this guy???? JAMES; FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD!!! Of course you need good works to get to heaven!! Are you telling me that all i have to do is belive and that is strictly it??? So if there is someone is questions to HIMSELF!!! Such as, how do i know what i believe is true, of course you
This guy is putting words in these guys mouth. He is twisting words to turn it against them. I enjoy how you left out Philippians 2:12. "Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling" Now why would we have to work out our salvation with fear and trembling, if we are already covered by grace? These two guys could have easily turned around the 10 commandments back on you.
Can you explain what that 'orthodoxy' of christianity is. Last time I checked we lived in a pick-your-flavor christianity world. True or not the criteria for God's church on earth in set in the Bible and the LDS church is the only church I know of that conforms to this criteria.
The only way to heaven is trough Jesus. He paid your fine. If you put your faith in Jesus - you can be covered by his blood - so that God see Jesus when he looks at you at judgement day.. and therefore saved
Aw poor little boys - they aren't old enough to debate this sort of thing I mean, they are just babies and won't know what they are really doing till they are at least 30.
A duck naturally quacks? Look, I have problems with the Mormon religion as well but this interviewer has his own interpretation of scripture, just as the Mormons do. I still see loads of contradictions in both views. What I don't think you guys see is that you act like you are on some righteous, God approved crusade like the Mormons do. It's hypocritical, you mirror the people you despise.
I´m not a good person, like Paul said "I am chief of sinners".. I dont look after people that agree with me, I would rather find people that dont agree with me. People need Jesus- and Him only - just like me
That's a nice textbook answer. How can you judge if Mormons are going to hell or not, and how can they judge if you are? As much as you say you are reborn and Christ is in the center of your life, you love to bash and find every flaw in these people. I've met Mormons who think anyone out of their circle is hellbound too. You're doing the same thing. Look at your video description, you want to see them burn, even the humblest of them, unless they agree with you and your interpretation of script.
I dont want to see them burn.. but we are all headed for hell, you, me, all of us... But if we are covered in the blood of Jesus, if we know Him, we can be saved... I am nothing without Jesus, I cant boast of anything..
This video reminds me of the bully pointing his finger at the social recluse in the schoolyard. Your focusing so much on the Mormons, so why not also point your finger on someone else who doesn't know the "truth", there must be thousands of other options for you. The effort to expose and debunk the other religion's falseness based on one's own gross ethnocentric interpretation of scripture is just like what anyone else does.
This video goes out to anyone... if you where there, you would be guilty, just as them. As well as a christian, muslim , me, Bill Clinton, Hitler and mother Theresa...
It just so happens, that there are standing 2 mormons there... And I have been called by God to witness to mormons... But it would be great if others would listen, muslims, jews, christians and atheists....
you will noe of the truth when christ returns agen...and i noe that the church of jesus christ of latter day saints is christs true church upon the face of this earth
How do you know that the church is true? Have you looked into the history of mormonism? Have you been born again trough faith in Jesus christ? I´l send you some vids you should watch. LDS church is not true, You can only count on Jesus and the Bible. Hope you can take the time to watch what I send you.. God bless you!
Luckily, no one (not even mormons) can keep the commandments :-). Sorry my friend, trust the Bible, watch book of mormon plagiarism (film here on youtube)
I put my trust in the Bible, thats Gods word.. But if you are SO SURE, and KNOW THE BOOK OF MORMON IS TRUE, like you probably have heard at least 2000 times or more, then you can watch it, cant you? Search for "Book of mormon plagiarism"
Its not about plagiarism from Solomon Spaulding.. its about what and where the Book of mormon has plagiarised the Bible.. But I guess you did not see it?
No, it's not. It's the doctrine of Man, nothing more. The true church is the "body of Christ". We are made up of many different sects, but we worship the same Jesus. Mormonism is not a part of this body of believers. The Jesus you worship is not the one that I worship. He is not my elder brother; he's my Lord, my Savior, my King and my God.
Takk for "Temple Bondage" anbelangingen. Jeg saa paa det idag og det var helt riktig - Templet er et form for psychologisk og aandelig misbruk og kontrol. Barn blir hjernevasket til a synes templet er nodvendig.
Svigermora mi (mora til Joakim) er uber-Mormoner og har grundig hjernevasket alle barna sine. Sabine hadde aldri kommet ut av kirken hadde ikke hun vaert gift med Satan (hennes familie er ikke glad i meg), eller noen som bryr seg om sannheten og kunne u-hjernevaske henne.
Flere episoder av Heart Of The Matter kan du finne på bornagainmormon(dot)com. Der er det mange show med mange forskjellige emner. Håper dere kan ta dere tid til å se på det.
Når var det dere sist så Isaksen familien? Har dere kontakt med dem i det hele tatt?
Hei testskriftene. Hvordan gaar det? Jeg var misjonaer i Norge for 10 aar siden. Kona mi er Norsk. Vi er ikke Mormonere noe lenger. Vi saa den PBS special om Mormonere og fant ut at Joseph Smith hadde 33 koner, 11 som var allerede gift.
Et sporsmaal. Hvorfor bryr du deg om Mormonere? Var du Mormoner? Er familien din i den kirken?
I do not agree with The LDS teachings, but i must say this video is not a good example of how Jesus taught others. Jesus was refreshing. (Matthew 11:29)
he also said In Matthew 22:30 "You must love your neighbor as yourself" Well i doubt you would want your sins exposed and posted on Youtube.
True preachers do so out of love of God and people, not to humiliate others.
My friend Matt 24:14 says "the good news of the kingdom will be preached" not this negative bashing of others beliefs.
sugarmesweet 3 years ago 3
get real. Know your theology. Dont rip things out of contexts.. They agreed to be interviewed before and after. To show them their sins may drive people to Jesus - is that not loving your neighbour?
testskriftene 3 years ago 12
And I would ask you the same questions you asked these 19 year old boys. Have you ever lied, stole, hated, lusted in the definition you used for them? I have yet to meet a person mormon or otherwise that can answer truthfully, no, to all the above.
faithinliberty 3 years ago 17
I went to a Mormon church once by accident, they invited me under the pretence that its a christian church. Apon going there I felt no love, no Holy Spirit and no revelation in the message, all i saw was brainwashed people telling us that this john smith guy is like Jesus.
My heart breaks for mormons, their intentions are good but they dont realize the dangers of that cult.
wernersunkel 3 years ago 15
last time i checked jesus was a man of peace, is this video promoting peace?
tanikabubble 3 years ago 3
correct. But for man, he is a scandal - because He reveales humans sin, sinful heart... have you ever read the Bible? watch my latest video
testskriftene 3 years ago 8
These Elders tried, they should have born testimony of the plan of Salvation & left but not without a commitment...
I would have loved to meet this guy on my mission.
smito37 3 years ago
Is this video genuine?
PaulSamuelThomson 3 years ago
I believe so
testskriftene 3 years ago
Great video
atcnick 3 years ago
Clearly, works are a product of faith, or even of someone coming to Christ... who by the way is the only way to be saved (from sin). However, it is becoming a new creature in Christ (repenting - go and sin no more), which means living the commandments and possessing good works, including charity that leads to the gift of eternal life, which is not something received in mortality. It is received in the afterlife. The Bible is clear that keeping the commandments is necessary for eternal life.
ChristopherMillz 3 years ago
Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another; Romans2:15
sldeyo 3 years ago
it is either grace or reward. u cant have it both ways. mormons seem confused.
Conail23 3 years ago
No Mormon believes that his works will save him! But we do believe that works is important. We must try to be better people today than we were yesterday. And after we try.. if we die.. it is only because of the grace of God that we become saved.
What people don't understand.. is that if you don't try to be better. Then you are not "following" Christ. And if you don't "follow" Christ, his grace can not save you. His grace is conditional. Come follow me!
MrNirom 3 years ago 3
You say two things in this comment...
"No Mormon believes that his works will save him"
and
"if you don't "follow" Christ, his grace can not save you. His grace is conditional. Come follow me!"
What will it be?
testskriftene 3 years ago
What YOU don't understand, is that works are irrelevant. Works are a sign of Salvation and not a cause of Salvation. The Mormon teaching is that a person is saved by grace, AFTER all they have done. You're saying one thing, but so many other Mormons and official Mormon sources say something entirely different. The act of being Saved is not following Christ, but becoming OF Christ. Following Him is the consequence, not part of the act. Mormons claim you must follow the Law of Moses. Impossible.
gurumagoo 3 years ago
Really now the law of moses? Where do mormons say they believe you must follow the Law of Moses?
mjolnir18889 3 years ago
I did not say I work my way up to be perfect.... Just in Jesus, people are perfect...
testskriftene 3 years ago
Redemption from original sin is without faith or works; redemption from our own sins is given through faith and works. Both are gifts of free grace; but one is a gift forced upon us unconditionally, the other is a gift merely offered to us conditionally. The reception of the one is compulsory; the reception of the other is voluntary. Man cannot by any possible act, prevent his redemption from the fall; but he can utterly refuse and prevent his redemption from the penalty of his own sins.
MrNirom 3 years ago
Sorry, my english does not go as far as your language
testskriftene 3 years ago
Witnessing a little battling with words?? Bashing etc...??
after all - we all believe you have to be nice.. is not this works? Do we not all as christians believe we have to become better people, having Jesus as our example? Is it not a commandment to become like Jesus?
NO MORMON says his works will save him.
If you at testskriftene really want to reach LDS members, at least understand their doctrine, do not search for arguments and battling of words..
LDS,
Norway
"If you can´t beat them..."
DenLillePrinsen 3 years ago 2
What is your conclusion?
"have to be nice.. in not this works?"
and then:
"NO MORMON says his works will save him."
Most mormons I have had contact with here on youtube, and the missionaries in Oslo believe that the works they do will save them (of course after they believe)...
God bless
testskriftene 3 years ago
so we reach the LDS members that believe that the works will save them after they say they believe...
testskriftene 3 years ago
so what is your point then, so what is the essence of being nice to the other people if thats not the reason, then if thats not the reason probably all the mormon kills a lot of people long time ago if that matters, since works ismportant to your salvation you have to be nice. understood
walteraliasdisney 3 years ago
The LAW drives people to Christ... thats what we try to do with this method... Jesus said that people would not like the truth... to hear that they are sinners - in desperate need of Jesus - and He is The only way to God....
God bless
testskriftene 3 years ago
Good Stuff! Way to represent the truth in scriptures.
nlspears02 3 years ago
i LOVE THAT THIS GUY KNOWS THE BIBLE SO WELL AND IS SO STRONG IN JESUS. BLESS YOU...MINISTER OF THE GOSPEL.
john146only 3 years ago 3
We keep the commaDMENTS BC WE LOVE HIM- PERIOD.
john146only 3 years ago
It is not enough to feel what is in your heart, bc we are depraved. And yes, two Jesus' are being presented here and they both can't be right. Works do nothing but to show thanks and praise to JEsus for HIS dying for us, but works DO NOT ADD to what Jesus did on the cross.
john146only 3 years ago
You can search for the full film "mormonism exposed"... I cant upload more than 10 min
testskriftene 3 years ago
"What about these scriptures? What do Christians do about them? Nothing?
Matt. 5: 48
Heb. 5: 9"
The apostle Paul - the preeminent apostle Christ sent to the Gentile world (that means you) - said we are complete and perfected "in Christ" if we've believed the Gospel of the grace of God. The work is done, 100% of it. To try to add our own righteousness, which we do not have, to His completed work for us is to disbelieve Him, and reveals a deceived, self-righteous and self-condemned heart.
justagalactichobo 3 years ago
I like to ask you something... are you perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect? Are you obeying Him?
testskriftene 3 years ago
Test: Yes.. I am doing what he asked me to do.
Christians feel they don't have to. You see.. I give the scriptures and all Christian do is by pass them.. and give me others to look at. They will not address it. They won't answer it. Even you Test... just twisted it around.. did not answer.. but asked me the question back. Typical. You misunderstand the scriptures! You missed the message that Paul was talking about. If that is your Gospel.. it is false and will take you to hell.
MrNirom 3 years ago
Are you perfect? WOW. have you sinned today? Lusted after anyone, any sinful thoughts? Greed, coveting, hate?
Perfect people dont fall, do they?
That verse does not tell us that we can become perfect, or work our way to be perfect, but we are perfect in Christ, when His righteousness is given to us, trough faith. Hope you come there some day
And I think it is important that christians try hard not to sin, and be a good man, we try - but NONE can become perfect - Only IN JESUS we are perfect
testskriftene 3 years ago
sorry, message was meant to MrNirom
testskriftene 3 years ago
There is so much more to the Bible than Ephesians.
What about these scriptures? What do Christians do about them? Nothing?
Matt. 5: 48 48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
Heb. 5: 9 9 And being made perfect•, he became the author• of eternal salvation• unto all them that obey him;
Acts 5:32
32 And we are his witnesses• of these things; and so is also the Holy• Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.
OBEY? Obey?
MrNirom 3 years ago
Are you perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect?
testskriftene 3 years ago
I don't like this video, it's like he's harassing those boys. Nobody is perfect, not even the interviewer in this video. I don't like the Mormon church much, but most of the members are good people and deserve respect like everyone else.
MamaWortsh 3 years ago
Alle er skyldige, og har brutt de 10 bud (selvfølgelig jeg også). Det er da man ser at man trenger Jesus...
De to guttene der godtok å bli intervjuet og filmet...
testskriftene 3 years ago
Most of my Mormon friends say that they study, and believe, the KJV Bible. If so why do they even "need" the Book of Mormon?? Also, if Mormons truly believe the KJV Bible how could they possibly believe the obvious heresies that would continually "pop up" as they read the BOM? Most Mormons are truly good folks and live out their faith better than most other Christians I know but I don't understand this paradox between the BOM and the KJV Scriptures.
randy95023 3 years ago
subscribe for updates - and check the videos in my archive - you will find much disturbing things about the LDS church, teaching and history
testskriftene 3 years ago
All christians need to read this Luke 22:36 Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.37 For I say unto you, that this that is written must yet be accomplished in me, And he was reckoned among the atransgressors: for the things concerning me have an end.38 And they said, Lord, behold, here are two swords. And he said unto them, It is enough.
likeuntomoroni 3 years ago
Yes, we have the right to defend ourselves - and our faith
testskriftene 3 years ago
Read Luke 22:36-38, the Bible itself is corrupted, this Bible is what led to different churches, if a man creates a church and names it what he wants is that his church or Christs? Also the Bible mentions babptism for the dead, if every knee shall bow and tounge confess at the last day how is it possible for infidels/athiest to be saved? Someone has to do the work for them. 17 points of the true Church of Christ on my personal channel
likeuntomoroni 3 years ago
The Bible does not teach doctrine of baptism for the dead - watch the episodes I have uploaded on it...
Can you show me where the Bible is corrupted? The mormons have to say that it is corrupted - so that they can teach unbilical teachings..
testskriftene 3 years ago
Religions are not from God, but from man, who has taken them and twisted them up from satans grasp.
CaptCaboose1 3 years ago
Although I am against worship, I found your rigid attachment to the literal words of the Bible refreshing in this video. It seems that you are very interested in what exactly is expected and required to be saved. I could not help but to notice that you have declared that all Mormons are going to hell. How do you qualify that statement with your other, that one must trust Jesus 100%? IOW, how do you know that there may not be some Mormons that do trust in Jesus 100%?
anonalie 3 years ago
All people are headed for hell... But thats the reason to go to Jesus, and put trust in Him to save you
testskriftene 3 years ago
You did not answer my question, I will be as direct as you were in this video... According to your words, to be saved one must put all trust in Jesus, how are you able to judge how much trust any given Mormon has invested in Jesus?
anonalie 3 years ago
I dont know how much faith they have in Jesus, because they dont trust Him to save them... they believe they have to be baptised, do many works and rituals (LDS way) in order to be saved... they believe they are not saved before AFTER they have done that, and even after that, most mormons are not sure if they will live with God or not when they die... they are on a hamster weel.. constantly working for the LDS church to try and prove themselves worthy... that is a living hell
testskriftene 3 years ago
I have a serious question here. Is there any base reason to have faith in Christianity/the Bible other than the fear of going to hell?
tillerGeneric 3 years ago
Not the fear of going to hell, but the fact... All people are wilfully turned against God, and naturally hate him. If you dont believe in God, you dont believe that there is a place as hell when you die, do you?
testskriftene 3 years ago
I guess that's a possibility. I'm not too sure myself on people naturally hating God though. I can't see how that makes sense in modern times.
I'm sure you already know that it's not always as black and white. For example, I think there's a possibility of a God, but neither believe or disbelieve in God because I don't have the information to prove or disprove it. The same goes for Hell.
Maybe people of faith call me a fence-sitter but I see it more as being logical versus faithful.
tillerGeneric 3 years ago
You should take the good person test... - GOOGLE it :-)
CARM(dot)ORG has a section for proving that there is a God behind all things...
I´l pray for you. (Only God can open your eyes. No religious rite/ritual, work or belonging to an organisation)
God bless
testskriftene 3 years ago
LDS GET THE RIGHT JESUS THEN PRAY
102303113 3 years ago
wow talk about judging others and casting the first stone. do you ever ask yourself those questions?
menehunez 3 years ago
Of course... all the time. Its how Jesus made people see that they cant work their way up to heaven, that they are all sinners and desperately need Jesus to save them...
testskriftene 3 years ago
oh and black missionarry!!!! yayaya
jaredstanko 3 years ago
when im on my mission i hope i end up here i usually stay cool and thin kthis would be FUNNY
jaredstanko 3 years ago
Let me get this right, these two guys are trying to teach what they believe and the guy in the backpack is trying to prove them wrong. religion or no religion, the guy in the backpack is a dick!
nesta911 3 years ago
Let me get this right, when the missionaries teach people what they believe, that they are right where other religions are wrong, that is "teaching what they believe", but when the other guy teaches what he believes, and shows the missionaries what he believes and why he thinks they are wrong, he is being a "dick". Hmmmm.... can we say double-standard?
intDavid 3 years ago 2
well said!
testskriftene 3 years ago
Subscribe :-)
God bless
testskriftene 3 years ago
I am not even sur what this guy believes!! These missionaries know more than he could ever understand about why we need our Savior!
ldsgurl07 3 years ago
how about hmm........stealing the country from the native people? LOL
DarkPrincess702 3 years ago
i can't believe this man who is tricking these fine young men he is a jerk and a typical born again.lol
simoneluv 3 years ago 2
How is he tricking?
testskriftene 3 years ago
He is trying to trap this boys that are serving the lord that is a shame you know.
simoneluv 3 years ago
you are hateful; you don't like the mormons who are the best in the world you need another hobby.ok
simoneluv 3 years ago
these boys are called from God.ok they are chosen ones?
simoneluv 3 years ago
Watch the video here on youtube called "Shawn becomes a mormon again - LDS convert"
testskriftene 3 years ago
Thats so funny. Its good to see that we can all have a good sense of humor in all this. Though if its true about his family i do feel for them, kind of mocking them abit but hey thats family problems we all have them! Man i bet hes a proper "black sheep" of the family. Maybe i will send you one next year saying that i have left the LDS church haha!
12345fraser 3 years ago
I will also let shaun in aswel at those pearly gates for having a great sense of humor. The Lords expects us to have a good laugh now and again.
12345fraser 3 years ago
Oh by the way Shaun forgot to mention that you need faith in the Lord Jesus Christ to be baptised and to follow his example and live a christ like life and to promise to take his name upon you that you may always have he Holy spirit to be with you or it counts for nothing. Apart from that small thing pretty spot on!
12345fraser 3 years ago
who is Shawn McCraney ?
12345fraser 3 years ago
Just type it in and search for it.. sorry - removed the message by mistake - tried to press "reply" and hit "remove"... sorry
testskriftene 3 years ago
God bless you i love you for all the good you do in this world by helping others the weak and the poor and the hungry. Thank you for loving Jesus Christ and maybe we can be friends some day. If i see you at the gates of heaven i will let you in becasue you loved Jesus. God bless.
12345fraser 3 years ago
You will let me in?
testskriftene 3 years ago
Maybe? Depends how nice you are.
12345fraser 3 years ago
Its called a joke, you are allowed to joke and laugh when your born again you know. :)
12345fraser 3 years ago
fun! Watch Shawn McCraney becomes a mormon LDS convert
testskriftene 3 years ago
you prove your faith by trying your best to bring other faiths down. All the time and effort that goes into all this could be spent helping someone not bringing them down?
12345fraser 3 years ago
I try to be a servant for Jesus, and prove that Jesus is the only truth, and that the Bible is reliable. Jesus wants to set people free from religious bondage.. Watch TEMPLE BONDAGE series here on youtube
testskriftene 3 years ago
I dont bring down - I show them facts
testskriftene 3 years ago
satan belives in Jesus knows that he has saved mankind, so what is the diffrence between the devil and you? We prove our faith by doing good in the world!
12345fraser 3 years ago
The devil has not been born again - Jesus created a new heart in me, a new will and a new life. Good works flows out from that... but the good works dont save me
testskriftene 3 years ago
testskriftene i love you with all my heart in Jesus Christ. Love will save this world and that can only come fom Jesus. But Jesus would not have you do this? Whether your right or wrong or whether i am right or wrong. Its about doing good in this world not "for works" but because Jesus would do the same. Jesus himself did works did he not? Then shoudnt we follow his example? Men are free to worship how and where they want its Satans plan to make a dictatorship.
12345fraser 3 years ago
Jesus has me doing this - witnessing to mormons - most mormons are lost in religiosity - and dont know Jesus - have not been born again by faith in Jesus...
testskriftene 3 years ago
For the record please tell me that i have NOT been born again in Jesus i dare you in his holy name and as God and angels as witnesses, to state that on youtube for the record and we will see here and now who is the wolf in sheeps clothing!
12345fraser 3 years ago
I cant tell... God looks at your heart..
testskriftene 3 years ago
Man u can have your bullshit. I know who jesus is and accept him as my redeemer. U and all u anti mormon haters can kiss my ass.
bobbyzworld123 3 years ago
Do you know why you need Jesus?
testskriftene 3 years ago
LDS teaches that salvation is through Jesus only. Period. There is no more to salvation.
It is exaltation that works is all about. That, however, is NOT the same thing.
thatjimguy 3 years ago
Christian salvation is the same as mormons exaltation (the highest heaven if you like...)
testskriftene 3 years ago
FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD ALSO!!! I REST MY CASE!! See you when you get there!
12345fraser 3 years ago
He talks about this in the clip. I rest my case
testskriftene 3 years ago
People need to stop being blind why would anyone who proffeses to believe in Christ want to set someone up on camera and post it on youtube, how very sad. "What would Jesus do" certainly NOT this??? TRY READING JAMES CHAPTER 2 VERSE 26 (Thats in THE NEW TESTAMENT)You guys with your pathetic anti mormon material, just read your BIBLE!
12345fraser 3 years ago
Why doesnt this guy admit the sins HE has done??? EY? Why doesnt he answer his own questions?? I GUES HE IS PERFECT IN YOU EYES testskriftnen. This guys is no diffrent than the guys who did the EXACT same thing to Jesus! You need to repent.
12345fraser 3 years ago
He would admit all the same sins - like all other evangelists... I would have answered guilty on all questions of the ten commandments...
testskriftene 3 years ago
"He would admit"??? The fact is he didnt! God is the same yesterday today and forever?But yet prophets are done away with hum? I think you have alot to learn about the Bible because they are all prophets who wrote it! But you probably believe that all of Gods dealing he has ever had with all mankind from the begining even from Adam is all contained in one Book? All of Gods dealings with man cannot fit into one book! God would reveal more to his children but becasue of people like you he will not
12345fraser 3 years ago
Also if prophets are done away with, what is all this stuff in Revlations about TWO PROPHETS being sent to defend the holy land??? Huuummm??? Think you sliped up there? If prophets are done with then so is "revelation?" So please tell me how you think you know that God does not have prophets anymore, did God tell you? Did a prophet tell you? NO! Your just guessing or heard it from another person?
12345fraser 3 years ago
Its not talking about prophets like your understanding of it (chief in "Gods organisation" here on earth). Human prophets like unto Moses is done away with. Hebrews 1, 1-2. There is a difference between prophets in OT and prophets in the NT. Get a Bible dictionary and commentary (NOT LDS version - but from a scholar)
testskriftene 3 years ago
NOT LDS version - but from a scholar) Oh so you trust in the arm of flesh SCHOLAR! Oh then it must be right if a learned man has told you! WAKE UP! If there is any day in the history of earth were a prophet from God is needed then it is NOW! A prophet leads and guides Gods children! Do you not think the world needs a Moses??
12345fraser 3 years ago
No. We need the Father, Son and Holy Ghost. Watch the episode.. it is not biblical to have a prophet like unto Moses anymore
testskriftene 3 years ago
Retarded There were prophets after moses idiot. Its clearly in the bible
bobbyzworld123 3 years ago
Prophets are done away with - watch episodes "LDS prophets not biblical"
testskriftene 3 years ago
Do you think must work to be saved? If you do - you dont trust Jesus... Do you have to be part of a human organisation (LDS church) to be saved (live with God)
testskriftene 3 years ago
YOU need faith and works. Works is the evidence or fruits of faith! "By there fruits ye shall know them!" You are doing works by posting all this stuff, its the evidence of what you believe is it not? You dont beleive and sit there and do nothing! No i beleive others will get there without a strcrural organisation (religion). "they have there reward" but there are greater rewards for those who WORK to do good in the world!
12345fraser 3 years ago
The good works will only give one a crown - not move him up a level of heaven...
testskriftene 3 years ago
If your sooo right then tell me as God and angels as witnesses that i am and my baby 11 week old daughter are going to hell. If this is not a wake up call i dont know what is?
12345fraser 3 years ago
People that cant account for their sins dont go to hell, Gods grace steps in.. age of accountability for jews was 13.. but I am not sure about when God accounts people for their sins...
testskriftene 3 years ago
God must look at his children and think what are we doing?? ILOVE JESUS! You cannot tell me i do not i love the same Jesus as you! So why dont we rejoice in that i am willing are you?? Instead you constantly attack people like me with these videos. SO answer me this am i going to hell?? Remember i cloth the naked feed the hungry and live up to all is said in the scriptures and i love Jesus Christ! So am i going to hell?
12345fraser 3 years ago
Is Jesus your spiritual brother from birth? Is He one of the three persons in the trinitarian God? We dont have the same Jesus. Spiritual brother vs eternal God is huge
testskriftene 3 years ago
He is also trying to take from the missionaries testimony..he is trying to steal...Thief..Repent ye
scott1puru 3 years ago
i hope this guy is listening cause these missionaries are doing a great job answering his questions...when a man asks questions he is searching for answers...
scott1puru 3 years ago
I think they try to slide away and "lie" about what the sins they have done
testskriftene 3 years ago
The video is about this fat sweaty guy who really is wolf in sheeps clothing and these two lads were wise and harmless as doves!!! ENJOY!
12345fraser 3 years ago
They where not totally honest - dont you see that? Lied only once or twice??? Yeah right!
testskriftene 3 years ago
WhO is this guy???? JAMES; FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD!!! Of course you need good works to get to heaven!! Are you telling me that all i have to do is belive and that is strictly it??? So if there is someone is dieing and i have the means to help would i do it or not?? Well according to this guy i can walk on by not do anything and still get to heaven!!! Sounds like satanic doctrine to me!! This guy also needs to ask the same questions to HIMSELF!!!
12345fraser 3 years ago
He has been asked those questions. All are guilty before God, you, me, those in this clip, Thomas S. Monson. God sent Jesus, to take our punishment, and by having faith in Jesus, that he took that punishment that you deserve, we can be justified and get a new life. You can be covered by the blood of Jesus when God sees you on judgement day, or you can show him the works you have done.. Being born again is the only things that can make a person live with God when he dies. Watched whole clip?
testskriftene 3 years ago
your interpretation of the Saviour atonement is incorrect..again non mormons preaching false doctrine..Not the Gospel of Christ but man made gospel..once again close but not close enough..Do you have anything more to add or is that all you know?
scott1puru 3 years ago
The LDS church has a false gospel - an angel preached a different gospel to Joseph. Prophets are done away with...
testskriftene 3 years ago
OH forgot to mention. Prophets were all done away with because people like YOU killed them off, all because they couldnt handle the truth! They preached the same as you do "its a diffrent Gospel!" STONE HIM!!!
12345fraser 3 years ago
Stone him? I am against murder. God has ended the line of prophets - the Bible tells us that. Episode coming soon. God bless
testskriftene 3 years ago
Listen we could go all day with this stuff. Why dont we just come together and say "i love God and so do you and i respect you for that". Problem is we are too busy arguing with each other instead of coming togther and fighting the real evils out there! We may disagree on alot but we have the same enemy, satan an he laughs at both of us right now!
12345fraser 3 years ago
I think the LDS church leads people away from Jesus... yes I know Jesus is in the name of the church... but it adds a truckload of things to do for the church and to work work work to be saved.... "Jesus is not enough for mormons"... You can search for that on youtube
testskriftene 3 years ago
bullshit
bobbyzworld123 3 years ago
Also who are you to say God cannot speak to man again. Your limiting Gods power! If God wants to speak to a 14 year old boy then he will, we do not have the right to say who he speaks to and who he doesnt! You do not know God you just know traditions of men.
12345fraser 3 years ago
I dont say God dont speak to people. But we dont have a prophet like unto Moses. I know its hard to hear - but its the truth. Jesus is the only "prophet like unto Moses" we have. The LDS prophet is a false prophet
testskriftene 3 years ago
I beleive i get answers from God personally but the peophet gets answers for Gods kingdom on earth as a whole. So if you have NO prophet who leads and guides your church oh sorry you answered that one "the scholars!" lead your church!
12345fraser 3 years ago
No. We read the BIble - but some times we need to go back to the original language - to understand the meaning
testskriftene 3 years ago
i totally agree with you..let he without sin cast the first stone..these people do not fully understand repentance and the process that it involves..how stupid can a man be..
scott1puru 3 years ago
WhO is this guy???? JAMES; FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD!!! Of course you need good works to get to heaven!! Are you telling me that all i have to do is belive and that is strictly it??? So if there is someone is questions to HIMSELF!!! Such as, how do i know what i believe is true, of course you
12345fraser 3 years ago
SNAP!
theshaggyskinhead 3 years ago
This guy is putting words in these guys mouth. He is twisting words to turn it against them. I enjoy how you left out Philippians 2:12. "Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling" Now why would we have to work out our salvation with fear and trembling, if we are already covered by grace? These two guys could have easily turned around the 10 commandments back on you.
cuteddu07 3 years ago
Nothing new to me here .
The LDS does not follow the orthodoxy of christianity.
kasdri 3 years ago
Can you explain what that 'orthodoxy' of christianity is. Last time I checked we lived in a pick-your-flavor christianity world. True or not the criteria for God's church on earth in set in the Bible and the LDS church is the only church I know of that conforms to this criteria.
williams0q1 3 years ago
What is this guys point? That he can manipulate God, the gospel, and people? Not very clever at all!
williams0q1 3 years ago
What is wrong? Would you be guilty if you stood there, in stead of the mormons?
testskriftene 3 years ago
Everyone, including himself, is guilty. What his point? He is just trying to embarass these guys. I don't know why they even entertained him.
williams0q1 3 years ago
Yes - everyone is guilty. Do you know what God did so that we can escape eternal hell?
testskriftene 3 years ago
Yup, why?
williams0q1 3 years ago
Do you know how to escape eternal hell?
testskriftene 3 years ago
I am not sure what you are talking about or getting at.
williams0q1 3 years ago
The only way to heaven is trough Jesus. He paid your fine. If you put your faith in Jesus - you can be covered by his blood - so that God see Jesus when he looks at you at judgement day.. and therefore saved
testskriftene 3 years ago
Aw poor little boys - they aren't old enough to debate this sort of thing I mean, they are just babies and won't know what they are really doing till they are at least 30.
Shirl09876 3 years ago
something that amazes me is that the mormons are not honest.. they try to twist themselves away from the sins they have done...
testskriftene 3 years ago
A duck naturally quacks? Look, I have problems with the Mormon religion as well but this interviewer has his own interpretation of scripture, just as the Mormons do. I still see loads of contradictions in both views. What I don't think you guys see is that you act like you are on some righteous, God approved crusade like the Mormons do. It's hypocritical, you mirror the people you despise.
Rusiker 3 years ago
Can you tell what is wrong? Are you a good person?
testskriftene 3 years ago
No, I'm not the best person in the world, and I suppose.....you are? If you're looking for pure people I guess it's whoever agrees with you.
Rusiker 3 years ago
I´m not a good person, like Paul said "I am chief of sinners".. I dont look after people that agree with me, I would rather find people that dont agree with me. People need Jesus- and Him only - just like me
testskriftene 3 years ago
That's a nice textbook answer. How can you judge if Mormons are going to hell or not, and how can they judge if you are? As much as you say you are reborn and Christ is in the center of your life, you love to bash and find every flaw in these people. I've met Mormons who think anyone out of their circle is hellbound too. You're doing the same thing. Look at your video description, you want to see them burn, even the humblest of them, unless they agree with you and your interpretation of script.
Rusiker 3 years ago
I dont want to see them burn.. but we are all headed for hell, you, me, all of us... But if we are covered in the blood of Jesus, if we know Him, we can be saved... I am nothing without Jesus, I cant boast of anything..
testskriftene 3 years ago
I dont want to bash... I want them to know the truth... I dont want to find the flaw in people, but the false teachings of the religion mormonism
testskriftene 3 years ago
This video reminds me of the bully pointing his finger at the social recluse in the schoolyard. Your focusing so much on the Mormons, so why not also point your finger on someone else who doesn't know the "truth", there must be thousands of other options for you. The effort to expose and debunk the other religion's falseness based on one's own gross ethnocentric interpretation of scripture is just like what anyone else does.
Rusiker 3 years ago
This video goes out to anyone... if you where there, you would be guilty, just as them. As well as a christian, muslim , me, Bill Clinton, Hitler and mother Theresa...
It just so happens, that there are standing 2 mormons there... And I have been called by God to witness to mormons... But it would be great if others would listen, muslims, jews, christians and atheists....
testskriftene 3 years ago
you will noe of the truth when christ returns agen...and i noe that the church of jesus christ of latter day saints is christs true church upon the face of this earth
moilaisgood 3 years ago 3
How do you know that the church is true? Have you looked into the history of mormonism? Have you been born again trough faith in Jesus christ? I´l send you some vids you should watch. LDS church is not true, You can only count on Jesus and the Bible. Hope you can take the time to watch what I send you.. God bless you!
testskriftene 3 years ago
The LDS is the true born again christians and they with the Holy Ghost and thru keeping the commandments they shall be saved before you.
GodLovedJosephSmith 3 years ago
Luckily, no one (not even mormons) can keep the commandments :-). Sorry my friend, trust the Bible, watch book of mormon plagiarism (film here on youtube)
testskriftene 3 years ago
it's NOT plagarized. The book of mormon is the word of GOD!
Sorry you put your trust in the wrong idealologies of men and not God.
GodLovedJosephSmith 3 years ago 3
I put my trust in the Bible, thats Gods word.. But if you are SO SURE, and KNOW THE BOOK OF MORMON IS TRUE, like you probably have heard at least 2000 times or more, then you can watch it, cant you? Search for "Book of mormon plagiarism"
testskriftene 3 years ago
Solomon Spaulding and his works are a lie.
GodLovedJosephSmith 3 years ago
Its not about plagiarism from Solomon Spaulding.. its about what and where the Book of mormon has plagiarised the Bible.. But I guess you did not see it?
testskriftene 3 years ago
So I guess the parts that are taken from the Bible and plagiarized into the Book of Mormon are the parts that are "translated correctly"?
I feel so sorry of the LDS. They are so lost. Thanks for posting these videos.
MistyAnn0414 3 years ago
Just my blessing and calling from Jesus :-) Its a joy. Jesus has given me a special love for the LDS people...
BLessings
testskriftene 3 years ago
No it's the word of Man, of Joseph Smith and his buddies. It is plagarized. You are the one who is putting your trust in Man, not God.
MistyAnn0414 3 years ago
LOL. I don't think so. The LDS don't have the Holy Ghost, they have familar spirits, FYI that's not a good thing.
Christians who are born again have the Holy Spirt with them. Once you have the Holy Spirit with you he will never let you.
MistyAnn0414 3 years ago
No, it's not. It's the doctrine of Man, nothing more. The true church is the "body of Christ". We are made up of many different sects, but we worship the same Jesus. Mormonism is not a part of this body of believers. The Jesus you worship is not the one that I worship. He is not my elder brother; he's my Lord, my Savior, my King and my God.
MistyAnn0414 3 years ago
He is without sin, let him cast the first stone... JUDGE YE NOT!
LDS dot ORG
for the truth.
GodLovedJosephSmith 3 years ago 4
Who has judged here?
testskriftene 3 years ago
i rekon aye!
jaynewashere 3 years ago
nobody is chunkin rocks. if we do not try to help people who are mistaken then we are letting them down.
anonazero 3 years ago
Takk for "Temple Bondage" anbelangingen. Jeg saa paa det idag og det var helt riktig - Templet er et form for psychologisk og aandelig misbruk og kontrol. Barn blir hjernevasket til a synes templet er nodvendig.
Svigermora mi (mora til Joakim) er uber-Mormoner og har grundig hjernevasket alle barna sine. Sabine hadde aldri kommet ut av kirken hadde ikke hun vaert gift med Satan (hennes familie er ikke glad i meg), eller noen som bryr seg om sannheten og kunne u-hjernevaske henne.
MormonNegro 3 years ago
Flere episoder av Heart Of The Matter kan du finne på bornagainmormon(dot)com. Der er det mange show med mange forskjellige emner. Håper dere kan ta dere tid til å se på det.
Når var det dere sist så Isaksen familien? Har dere kontakt med dem i det hele tatt?
testskriftene 3 years ago
Hei testskriftene. Hvordan gaar det? Jeg var misjonaer i Norge for 10 aar siden. Kona mi er Norsk. Vi er ikke Mormonere noe lenger. Vi saa den PBS special om Mormonere og fant ut at Joseph Smith hadde 33 koner, 11 som var allerede gift.
Et sporsmaal. Hvorfor bryr du deg om Mormonere? Var du Mormoner? Er familien din i den kirken?
hilsen,
MormonNegro
MormonNegro 3 years ago