The Salvation of the Whole World According to the Bible

[pegcage]

Self righteous people or those who think some earthly institution is going to save them from an eternal hell, are arrogantly supportive of an eternal hell for other people. Love wants everyone saved, and love believes in the God of Love Who will save all.

[jacksmack77]

John 3:18, 36. John 3:18. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

[MrPaulryan76]

Seems like Calvinist does not have any compassion knowing their loved ones or anyone for the fact are burning in this so called hell forever. That doesn't sound to Christian to me.

[cyndimccoy]

Why do I feel a sudden inspiration of hope and a feeling as if everything suddenly makes sense as I watch your videos, like the first breeze of spring and that deep inhale you take knowing that the bitter cold has passed... :-)

[cyndimccoy]

@tentmaker777 - where can I get an audio version of this to sit and listen to apart from the computer?

[cyndimccoy]

@tentmaker777 - and/or where is there a transcript of all of these scriptures?

[tentmaker777]

@cyndimccoy Ahhh, breathing in hope stirs the heart in anticipation that true love is on its way. Perfect love casts out fear and that is the state our being belongs in.

[Lrothtube]

@cyndimccoy Hes not the only one, I am delivered from the eternal torment doctrine, and a religious spirti...check out Martin Zender he is great..google Universal Salvation(org) there is NO other feeling like the feeling when you FINALLY realize that Jesus is in control and has already saved everyone, also check our salvation for all (google)

[Lrothtube]

cont.) to be honest I feel as if I have to start completely over with my relationship with Christ, just because down deep inside I did fear him, what water on a parched soul this has been for me, I am very excited about this new revelation and now I will read &interpret the words of God so differently with comfort and joy. This only makes the most since, since God so loved the WORLD and we are all sinners. It amazes me that christians would not whole heartily embrace this Godly message? Im free

[Lrothtube]

I really am happy to have stumbled upon this channel, and since have found other videos and ministries to support universal salvation, this has given me much peace and happiness, now I can see where Jesus says be anxious FOR NOTHING....truthfully Im not sure how christians can not be anxious when they have some of their loved ones not saved and freaking out because they could be facing eternal punishment. I have believed it off and on forever with very little scripture to back it up that I study

[Pacisdiligo]

God loves all of mankind and desires all to be saved. Can anyone or anything thwart the purposes of God? If so, who has such power? Hell exists, but not as a place of eternal torment for human souls.

[tentmaker777]

@graceexplosion I don't believe you are God nor do I believe your words are from God. And I don't "despise" you, I simply will leave you to your own devises. Have a nice day. Keep your promise, don't post here anymore.

[tentmaker777]

@graceexplosion Gee, you say that you are one with God and so when you speak, God speaks. Well, it works the other way too, doesn't it? When I speak God speaks? So according to your own understanding, you just call God incredibly arrogant. Hey, I've read enough. I don't agree with your opinion. Flesh is flesh, NOT spirit. And I think there's a whole lot of flesh going on here. Time to quit.

[tentmaker777]

@graceexplosion So let me see. You are God speaking. So if I reply to you and disagree with you, it is still God speaking. So in God with contradict one another? I see. I think I've had enough of this. 1Co 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion" Again, this is not a discusion board.

[tentmaker777]

@graceexplosion I am not trying to be gross or fecitious, but does not direct you when to blow your nose and how many times you should wipe when you are about your bodily business? Or does He leave that up to you?

[graceexplosion]

@tentmaker777 If you try to understand reality -- all reality is spiritual in source. The physical is merely a manifestation of the spiritual level. If we were in the Garden of Eden, dear friend, we'd have no bodily business to wipe or blow. We'd be in a state of perfection. This is the result of full submission to God's Spirit from within -- whereby the natural manifestation is perfection and holiness. We'd be in a transfigured state. I don't think you appreciate God's rule.

[tentmaker777]

@graceexplosion I don't believe you answered my question. But that's ok. And a reminder, this is not a discussion board but simply a place to leave a comment or two. Spam gets deleted.

[graceexplosion]

@tentmaker777 Based on your contempt for Jesus Christ and worship of God -- your contempt for God's rule over His creation -- I don't even know that you're a Christian. For all I know, you're just a New Ager who believes in man and rejects Jesus Christ as King (=Sovereign). So, as far as I know, your whole page is spam. I'm not returning until you prove you're really born-again and not a New Ager.

[tentmaker777]

@graceexplosion PLEASE, keep your promise. I promise you won't be missed.

[N2truth7]

Oh well, here it is...

"Therefore I endure all things for the sake of the elect, that they also may obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory." ~2 Tim.2:10

Yep, sounds like salvation to me. Ever read Eph.1&2? Guess what? The context is...SALVATION.

[graceexplosion]

@N2truth7 But, dear friend, that salvation that is in Christ was in Christ from the beginning -- when all mankind was in Adam and Adam was in Christ. Luke 3:38... Adam, which was the son of God. ~~ While it is true that all mankind fell in Adam - -when we were in the loins of Adam even as Levi was in the loins of Abraham and paid tithes then with/thru Abraham to Melchizedek. But, all who were in Adam in the fall were also in Christ in Adam in original creation. Not all have been born yet.

[graceexplosion]

@N2truth7 This salvation that you speak of is in Christ with eternal glory as the scripture states. We must be born of God's Holy Spirit through Jesus Christ. Only the elect are given in this life to be born of the Holy Spirit. Those who are reprobate were in Adam in Christ in original creation. Predestination in Christ surpasses time since the fall of Adam. It's manifest destiny. They were in Christ in the original creation of Adam before the fall. They will be born of the Spirit one day

[N2truth7]

You obviously don't know JACK about what "election" is. As usual, you people minimize things to support your doctrines of demons.

[tentmaker777]

@N2truth7 I MAXIMIZE the grace of God which guys like you have turned into sewage. Jesus died for the "sin of the world." The apostles call Him the "Savior of the world." John 4:42, 1 John 4:14. Some Christians have faith to believe these glorious scriptures, some Christians prefer glorifying Satan stating satan will rule over most of mankind forever and ever. Now N@LIES7, this place is for comments, not an endless discussion. Good bye.

[N2truth7]

@tentmaker777 Every reference to "election" pertains to salvation and sanctification. If you'd like, I can list the verses that say so? In addition, your appeal to the "world"? 1 John says that if you love the world, the love of God is not in you...oops!

[graceexplosion]

@N2truth7 I believe it would be helpful to do a study on election. The Word of God states that unbelieving Jews in Romans 11 are enemies for the gospel's sake, but elect for their fathers' sake. Therefore, even as all of us who are elect are elect in accordance with God's Sovereign Predestinate will, not according to our own merit or power, unbelieving Jews are elect for the sake of being the lineage of Jacob. The scripture states all will be saved. This pattern is the pattern of salvation.

[N2truth7]

God chose Israel and Paul made it abundantly clear that "not all Israel are Israel according to the flesh", Now God has grafted in the gentiles.

Paul also gives th clear instruction of what beng "elect" means in Romans 8:29-30

[tentmaker777]

@N2truth7 You are quite misinformed AND based upon your attitude, qualified to be "cut off" even as some of Israel was. "ALL ISRAEL WILL BE SAVED." Rom. 11:26 Regarding "elect," if you WERE among the elect, you would know your calling. Considering how self-centered your posts have been, how can you consider yourself among the elect? You think only chosen frozen such as yourself will be saved? That's the sound of a Pharisee to me, not a saint saved by grace.

[N2truth7]

@tentmaker777 Sorry, but the people readin chapter 11 would not arive at that conclusion having already read chapter 9. They would understand who exactly Israel is and since Paul had unceasing grief for his brethren according to the flesh to the point of wishing himself to be "cut off" from Christ then there's no reason to think that Paul thought "everyone" would be saved. It seems that YOU are WRONG!

[tentmaker777]

@N2truth7 Really?! But if you had read Rom. 11 carefully, you would have discovered right after "All Israel will be saved" that those Israelite Paul was talking about were FLESHLY Israelites who "became our enemies for the gospel's sake. So this Israel Paul was talking about was NOT the elect. You must be a new Christian or one who doesn't look at the text very carefully. Listen, this is NOT a discussion board, it's a place to leave a comment, so you are violating the purpose of the comments sec

[N2truth7]

@tentmaker777 Now see, if the Israelites were merely being "fleshly" then there is no reason to think that Paul would wish himself to be an "anathema" for their sake. You logic is very small.

[N2truth7]

@tentmaker777 The fact that you throw down the "Pharisee card" also displays your biblical ignorance. The only way I would qualify as a pharisee is if I were teaching salvation by works and forsaking the Word of God in favor of the words of men. That sounds more like you and your ilk.

[tentmaker777]

@N2truth7 So you're a Calvinist, one who believes God foreordained to torture most of mankind? That makes you worse than a Pharisee.

[graceexplosion]

@tentmaker777 I was thinking it would be helpful to perhaps do a tape on triple predestination. The arminiast position is revulsion towards double predestination. But, that is a very limited comprehension of predestination. All mankind was predestined to salvation in Adam in Christ before the fall. Adam was a son of God. When all mankind fell in Adam, a "double predestination" occurred within time - this life - that could not "erase" ultimate predestination in original creation in Christ.

[graceexplosion]

@tentmaker777 I am absolutely a 5 point Calvinist within time. God is 100% Sovereign and in control of all things. It is true that the atonement, in time, is limited to those God saves from wrath -- the elect within time. But as we see from Israel being raised from the dead at the beginning of the 1000 year reign of Christ -- death is no limit to election. See Ezekiel 37. (I rather object to the bile towards Calvinists. God is 100% Sovereign. They just don't understand final judgment.)

[N2truth7]

"And they sang a new song, saying: "You are worthy to take the scroll, And to open its seals; For You were slain, And have redeemed us to God by Your blood OUT OF every tribe and tongue and people and nation,

That would be Revelation 5:9

[tentmaker777]

@N2truth7 Look God "chose" Israel. Does that mean only Israelites get saved? God "choses" the elect. But the elect, just like Israel, have forgotten what they are "elected" for. Creation is groaning for the manifestation of the sons of God. Why? Because they, the elect, will set creation free from its bondage to corruption. Sounds like you are not one of the elect, you don't know the calling.

[N2truth7]

See, the context of 1 Tim.2 is that prayers be made for men of "all kinds" which is why Paul listed "kings and rulers and authorities". Paul wasn't telling believers that they need to get out the Jerusalem white pages and pray for "every single person who ever walked the planet". He's saying that God desires men of all kinds.

[tentmaker777]

@N2truth7 What a bunch of balony! Friend, you do God a great disservice to trash Him the way you are doing. He's much more powerful and loving that you paint Him. You have no faith. You're religious and you use fear to try to scare people into heaven. It's the goodness of God what persuades men, not your hellfire and damnation message. Go get a gospel, there is no good news in yours.

[MrPaulryan76]

@tentmaker777 AMEN!!!!!

[N2truth7]

See, if the bible taught that "every single person that God ever created" was going to be saved then the language of the scriptures would be much different. For example, Revelation 5 would say that "every tribe, tongue and nation were redeemed", not "redeemed OUT OF every tribe, tongue and nation".

[tentmaker777]

@N2truth7 Rev 5:13 Then I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and under the earth and on the sea, and all that is in them, singing: "To him who sits on the throne and to the Lamb be praise and honor and glory and power, for ever and ever!" "And I if I am lifted up from the earth will draw all mankind unto Myself." That's what Jesus says, but you interpret it as "will draw SOME out of every tribe, tongue and nation." I prefer Jesus' words to your interpretation if you don't mind.

[N2truth7]

@tentmaker777 John 12 is another one that you idiots butcher. That just shows how poorly you people handle God's word and how badly you tear it apart. The context of John 12 has to do with gentiles (greeks) coming to the Jewish festival. Gentiles were not yet a part of the new covenant and Jesus was declaring that He would draw (no longer just jews) but men of all races and kinds. This why you people fail with the word "all" or "pas".

[tentmaker777]

@N2truth7 Oh, so now I'm an idiot. And obviously you don't know the meaning of "pas."  Col 1:16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him. He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, and through him to reconcile to himself all things..." You want to limit God and his power.

[N2truth7]

@tentmaker777 So you think that the "all" in Col.1:20 automatically means that everyone will be saved? That's what the reconciliation process equals? I guess that means then that the devil and his angels will be saved too then.

See, I have no desire to "limit God" so why don't take your pejorative labels and shove them! I accept God for whatever He choses to do UNLIKE you, I don't answer back to God.

[N2truth7]

I'm glad that Jesus spent all of that time warning people for no reason at all. What a silly Jesus. Too bad He wasn't as "smart" as you.

[tentmaker777]

@N2truth7 It's sad you don't believe those scriptures in the video. Jesus' WARNINGS were to people in his own generation of things what were coming upon THEM, back then. Read Josephus' War of the Jews and read about the destruction of Jerusalem.

[N2truth7]

@tentmaker777 I do believe the scriptures, it's just that I believe them in their proper context. Also, I don't recall Josephus being named among the twelve nor any of his books among the books of the bible.

[tentmaker777]

@N2truth7 So you don't believe in heeding Jesus' prophesies because everything Jesus prophesied would happen to His generation accord exactly as He said and God raised up Josephus to record it. "God WILL HAVE ALL MEN BE SAVED AND COME TO THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE TRUTH" whether you believe Him or not. Obviously you don't. 1 Tim. 2:4

[N2truth7]

@tentmaker777 I certainly do believe that God would have all who believe to be saved. That's His will and His plan.

[tentmaker777]

@N2truth7 The Greek word thelema is much stronger than "desire" or would have. IT MEANS WILL! God WILLL save all, you just don't have faith.

[N2truth7]

@tentmaker777 You are not an expert in greek. Any two bit twerp worth his weight can look up a word in a lexicon and rip out whatever possible definition that suits their agenda. Like with mos greek words, there is a variety of definition variations. You just cherry pick the ones that suit your agenda.

[tentmaker777]

@N2truth7 Interesting. So you pick the worst possible understanding of words that paints god into a hypocrite, liar and eternal torturer and I pick the highest possible attributes of God. Sure sounds like you're interested in doing the devil's work than glorifying God. Huh.

[MrPaulryan76]

@N2truth7 I guess your Calvanism dont really consider that their are people who fears that their loved ones are burning in hell forever for a sin they might thought their loved ones may have committed without repentance prior to death. Let it be a child of yours who stole a peace of candy off a shelf and choked on it to death.

[N2truth7]

@MrPaulryan76 Sin is sin and those who do not believe on Him will not see life. Your argument is with the word of God.

[N2truth7]

Poor Jesus, spending all that time warning people about absolutely nothing. I guess I should go out and warn people about flying pigs too huh? I mean even though they don't exist it still seems like a good idea to warn people for no reason.

[tentmaker777]

@N2truth7 He was warning Jews of the wrath to come in 70AD, the end of the O.T. A New Covenant of grace was at the door, the O.T. would be done away at the destruction of Jerusalem. Some of the Pharisees would have their very bodies thrown into your Hell which was the city dump outside the walls of Jerusalem just like Jesus predicted. You need to do some serious studying my friend. Traditions of men are all over you.

[Billthesheepdog]

So you are saying even atheists, muslims, and hindus, etc and those who just hate any religion or God will be saved anyway? I don't agree at all. Either does scripture sir. Mathew 7:13-""Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it."

[tentmaker777]

@Billthesheepdog Bill, was there a time when you were a sinner? Did God love you less then than now? And today, are you still a sinner? Is there a day that goes by in which you do not sin? I realize in this world pride is a powerful blinding agent that deceives most of the world. So are you so blind that you can't see that you are no better than anyone in this world? And if that is the case, why are you boasting so ferverently? Eph. 2:8-10

[Billthesheepdog]

@tentmaker777 No boast at all sir. I am saved by grace and not by anything I could do. One has to accept that they are a sinner in order to repent and ask forgiveness . And that one also has to ask for Yeshua to save them. They have to accept the sacrifice on the cross. Yeshua/Jesus does not force anyone. There are many on this earth who would deny Jesus and do daily. The bible says that most will not enter the smaller door. God said it not me!

[tentmaker777]

@Billthesheepdog You boast in YOUR CHOICE. It is God who chooses, not you LEST YOU BE FOUND DOING WHAT YOU ARE DOING, BOASTING IN YOUR WISDOM. Joh 15:16 "Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you." Since you boast in your decision, your decision is vain. "God will have all men be saved and come to the knowledge of the truth" and your unbelief will NOT deter Him. I Tim. 2:1-6

[Billthesheepdog]

@tentmaker777 I tried to be nice, but you are just crazy. You seem a bit mean spirited also but I forgive you. Goodbye.

[tentmaker777]

@Billthesheepdog Yes, you are nice, very nice, much nicer than the God you present to the world. That's the trouble with religious folks like yourself, you paint yourselves nicer than the god you claim to believe in. If you REALLY believed in the god you present, you'd be changing your life BIG TIME. But you're just talk, no walk.

[tentmaker777]

@Billthesheepdog Let's see, Paul said he was an example of the way others would come to Christ. Did Paul "chose" Jesus? As for the "small door" do you think you've entered it? Are you sure? There are thousands of different denominations of Christianity, each having a slightly different "door" some perhaps even smaller than the door you've painted.

[MrPaulryan76]

@Billthesheepdog Narrow gate is those who walk with Christ and broad way leads to destruction by their sin which is the wage to death. The wages of sin is death not wages of sin to an eternal fiery dungeon.

[Billthesheepdog]

@MrPaulryan76 If you are born again in faith only (not faith+works) You have no sin to defend at the judges table. Jesus paid for my sin past, present, and future. It is wiped clean even before I commit it. The only requirement is born again! HalleluYah!

[jamesstenbeck1977]

@Billthesheepdog i agree with you on that.:) POSITIVELY!!!!

[jvsm1971]

WOW!!!!! Praise Praise Praise our WONDERFUL ALL POWERFUL ALL MERCIFUL ALL LOVING ALL FORGIVING GOD!!!!!!!! Thank YOU Jesus !!! Thank YOU Lord for REDEEMING and SAVING ALL your creation from the curse of death and sin...through your finished work on the cross for ALL MANKIND!!

[ChrisCarlascio]

Thank you for this. God bless you.

[tentmaker777]

@ChrisCarlascio Your welcomed. Pass it on. Let others know. a beach is made one grain at a time.

[Dwrancho144]

thnx for putting this up

[bkglamb]

If only this message was teached in every church every sunday, and in every school, America would be so much better off!!!!!!

[SShanez]

Wonderful wonderful wonderful.